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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest topics in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and culture. The journey begins with headline news, which leads

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Speaker 1: to discussions about life lessons that are presented in every

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Speaker 1: single story from ourselves. Whilely that dude, and today, let's

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Speaker 1: chop up some woods, starting in my old neighborhood the

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Speaker 1: NFL where the Eagles. Man, we finally got the verdict.

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Speaker 1: We've been deliberating about this team for eight weeks, perfect record,

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Speaker 1: and then a lot of de pundits out there were saying, man,

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Speaker 1: they look perfect from far but far from perfect. Well,

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Speaker 1: no team is perfect. So we found out last night

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Speaker 1: that once again, no team is perfect. They'll send it too, dolphin,

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Speaker 1: still popping it, still over there with that click, because

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna touch that. And I don't foresee any team

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Speaker 1: going out there and playing perfect. Why did the Eagles lose?

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Speaker 1: It was simple. I could hear every coach I ever

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Speaker 1: played for right now. I don't give a damn what

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Speaker 1: game film look like. I don't even want to see

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Speaker 1: the film forget them sixty minutes. Why they always sound

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see film. I don't even want

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Speaker 1: to see the stat sheet. Just give me one stat

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's on the stat sheet, coach, what

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Speaker 1: st that? I said? And that once? That is always

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Speaker 1: the turnover battle turnover differential. And we saw it last

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Speaker 1: night the Philadelphia Eagles four turnovers. Oh what did the

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Speaker 1: Washington commanders have? First of all, change your name, damn it, commanders,

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Speaker 1: G I Joe as team uh two. So if you

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Speaker 1: lose the turnover battle by two or more, they say

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Speaker 1: it's three or more, it's nineties some percent. So basically

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Speaker 1: you don't even have to watch the game. You can

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Speaker 1: just hang out with the wife and kids. Come back, Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: who wanted to turnover battle? Your boys say, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: Washington one, will they win the game? That's how it

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Speaker 1: so much? Now we're gonna get into that mental We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into the mentality that comes from being perfect.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem when you're perfect. You think that everything

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Speaker 1: you've done was perfect. You actually try to perform like

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Speaker 1: the results, and that's a problem. You may have perfect results,

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Speaker 1: but never fool yourself into thinking that you were perfect

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Speaker 1: in your pursuit for those results. Get it. You didn't

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Speaker 1: do everything perfect to become perfect. And I think the

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Speaker 1: I don't know, dog, these dudes be coming to that

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Speaker 1: to death, right, But that perfect mindset is what gets you.

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Speaker 1: Let's start here. This is what's wrong with thinking you're perfect,

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Speaker 1: or worse that you're trying to be perfect, because you

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Speaker 1: get out your comfort zone, you start to do too much.

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Speaker 1: And everybody knows that's played sports before. If you want

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Speaker 1: to do it big, do the little things. You want

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Speaker 1: to do something in life big, do all the little things.

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Speaker 1: And what happened last night is dy and do all

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Speaker 1: the little things. They start turning that ball over, trying

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Speaker 1: like if I told you right now, stand in your

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Speaker 1: You're still not there, and you're a And that's what

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Speaker 1: the Eagles were doing, reaching, stretching, doing too much, trying

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Speaker 1: because then you start to press, you start to stretch,

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Speaker 1: No one could talk about that. So really what we're

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Speaker 1: black man, you better have more than that. That's all

424
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: you got? The one are you crying at the podium?

425
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, do better, bro, because I know you are

426
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: better than that. Oh y'all thought I was gonna start

427
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: swerving and then not talk. Kyrie Irving boll y'all know me.

428
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: Here's what I gotta say about this, because I am dumbfounded.

429
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: I am called off guard. Are when I hear Kyrie

430
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Irving is anti Semitic, I'm like, really, now, I didn't

431
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: watch the documentary and I'm probably not going to watch

432
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: the documentary. Got two mean damn kids and hurt us

433
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: four hours. And let's just say that that's not what

434
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm about to dive into and dive into deeply. And

435
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at anybody who does. Who I'm mad

436
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: at it are all the people that have comments on

437
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: this conversation, this subject Kyrie Irving, the Jewish community and

438
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 1: haven't watched it one y'all need to just sit this

439
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: one out, like sit this one out. And if you

440
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: have watched it, I'm listening. I'm listening to those who

441
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: have watched it. And if you're offended and you've seen it,

442
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: voice your opinion, because Kyrie Irving saw it and voice

443
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: his opinion. And in this world, we're so far distant

444
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: from intellectual curiosity that now we have guard rails on

445
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: even our thoughts. And I understand why, you know, you

446
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: don't want people to be reckless to the point of

447
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: destruction and hate. But we can't use those words lightly.

448
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: And since I haven't seen it, I can't go there,

449
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: But I can't go here. In terms of who Kyrie

450
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: Irving is and where Kyrie Irving is right now, he's

451
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: not playing a game of basketball right now, And I

452
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: wonder is it because of him promoting and supporting a

453
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: documentary or I didn't say and or him not apologizing.

454
00:26:53,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: M hmm, yeah, man, Intellectual curiosity under attack or suffocated.

455
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: Either way, the borders are shrinking in terms of what

456
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: you want to figure out, what you want to find out,

457
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: and how you display that process. See, in your own

458
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: private world, you're supposed to be allowed, and I don't

459
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 1: even know if that's true. I swear these phones be listening.

460
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: But in your own private home, in your own private space,

461
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be able to discover right, just like

462
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: how you learn to do anything right by kind of

463
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: stepping in it, doing it the wrong way, making mistakes,

464
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: messing up. We think that's only for kids. We think

465
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: that's only for the young and the youth. But what

466
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: if an adult wants to know more than is being

467
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: shown to him, that is being told to him, that

468
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: is being illustrated to him. What if you want to

469
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: go beyond that dimension. It's like that your interpretation or

470
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: yeah that's what I hear are Yeah that's what you

471
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: told me to believe. But what if there's more to

472
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: it pun intended? Where do you do that? Where do

473
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: you go for that intellectual curiosity? I can't go anywhere

474
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: in public, not full not full expression, not in its fullness.

475
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: There you to go somewhere and try to bring out

476
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: unconventional thoughts to the masses and just say, hey, just

477
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: throwing this out there, trying to see what sticks. There's

478
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: a limit to that now, And that's a sad place

479
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: because I hate that because I'm not built like that.

480
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: You talk about me, you talked about mind. I'm listening.

481
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: Can you back it up? Like I am not disturbed

482
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: by your allegations. I'm only disturbed if they're false allegations.

483
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: And if they are false, let's educate each other, improve it,

484
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: and if they are proven, then let's respect each other

485
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: for the disagreement that is now becoming agreement. But we

486
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: got to go through the process because when you have

487
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: something that I'm on one side and you're on another side,

488
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: or I don't know, what side I'm on. I'm just

489
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. We gotta have the landscape

490
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: and the freedom to do that. Now I can hear

491
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: the push back. Not with everything, and I'm like, not

492
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: with everything. Like religion, God, Church, they always said to

493
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: have a relationship with God. Talk to God. Tell God

494
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: you're real, Tell them your frustrations, tell them what you're

495
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: bad at. Don't just pray for Christmas presents and good health.

496
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: Tell them what's wrong. And I remember my grandmother raised

497
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: me like, challenge everything, and this is not yesteryear, Grandma.

498
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you that right now, as you know,

499
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: looking down from up high, it has flipped. It has changed.

500
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: So if you're Kyrie Irving, what's changed for you? Your

501
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: tremendous basketball player, afforded great opportunities, a great platform, and

502
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: now a great voice. Kyrie Irving says something, we're listening,

503
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: right or wrong. People are listening, and in part that

504
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: was the fuel that made this an issue in the

505
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: first place. You're promoting Hey, well, with that voice in

506
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: that platform, people gonna listen to you. And in disagreement,

507
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: instead of saying, what do you mean? In this binary world,

508
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: it's either love or hate? I hate to say your brother,

509
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: I hate to say it people, but out here we

510
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: need a space. We need a free place where our

511
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: thoughts can wander without borders, to just see what's real

512
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: from fake. And I'm not saying Kyrie or in his

513
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: right because I did not watch the documentary and I'm

514
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: not going to watch the documentary like that doesn't prove

515
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: anything for me. I'm in a different place. But Kyrie

516
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: Irving did, and many other people did, and many many

517
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: many more did not, but got something to say about it.

518
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: And that's where I just draw the line. I said, yeah,

519
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: come on, man, be educated, because it seems like Kyrie

520
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Irving went on the mission to be educated, but you

521
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: guys won't allow that, least not today in his fullness.

522
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: So Kyrie Irvin is now distant from his origins. Distant,

523
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: not just in his curiosity of who he is and herritage,

524
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: not that distant. And you were a basketball player, introduced

525
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: to the world because of your talents, and now you

526
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: become much more than that. And coach us to always

527
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: tell us, don't come to practice, it's on the red carpet,

528
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: and that meant a lot of different things. Basically, he

529
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: was like don't let anything else get in the way

530
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: of why you here in the first place. And for

531
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, it seems like his curiosity is getting in

532
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: the way of his greatest display to this world in

533
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: terms of his basketball talent. Now, Kyrie Iver's like, shoot, y'all,

534
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: think this is what I'm great at. Let me find

535
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: out who I am. I'm gonna show you how great

536
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: I am. And I get it. But in this world, man,

537
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: the intrusion on your private space because telling y'all these

538
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: phones listening like everything I think of something and say

539
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: something at home, boom, pop up on the phone on

540
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: the ground, like we have now with social media with

541
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: no social space because we're all connected now have turned

542
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: the public and private speed year into one space. So

543
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: there is no separation of the two. So the only

544
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: way to get away with anything now in terms of discovery,

545
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: in terms of process, I'm not talking about your landing spot.

546
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about where this takes you in fullness.

547
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm talking about just trying to figure out what sticks

548
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: and what doesn't. Very few places you can go, very few.

549
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: One place you can go, though, I guess it is

550
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Alive because Dave Chappelle did. Chappelle went up there,

551
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: and I thought it was amazing what he said. But

552
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna also say I was a little saddened because,

553
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: if you notice, even the great, brilliant Dave Chappelle, who

554
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: I actually met his first public show ever nine Columbia University,

555
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: we used to have these dollar shows a dmc onyx

556
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: first show ever, Lord's in the Underground, Dave Chappelle, obviously

557
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: Lauren Hill with It, went to Columbia, etcetera, etcetera. But

558
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle performed for a dollar at Columbia, yep. And

559
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: I saw it. And after it, I went into the bathroom.

560
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: Nobody's in there, and guess who walks in Dave Chappelle.

561
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: And I'm washing my hands, and you know, then he

562
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: got to wash his hands. You know, you try to

563
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: play at all because you're married. You want to be talking,

564
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: no do in the bathroom. But I said, hey, man,

565
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: that was really good, and he was like you thought so.

566
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, man, you killed it. He was like,

567
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: all right, thanks, that was it. Yeah. I mean I've

568
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: seen them since, but that was it. Is that crazy

569
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: said to put a bed on the right. Then Dave

570
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: Chappelle's next. But I saw Dave Chappelle on Saturday Night Live.

571
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: Have to be measured, calculated with those words, like I

572
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: have to be right now. And that's in part why

573
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm creating the platform and working on the platform where

574
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: we can talk freely. And I'm not gonna be offended.

575
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: And if you jump on the platform, I hope you're

576
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: not offended because we're just trying to figure this thing

577
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: out together. But Dave Chappelle has to be measured, you know,

578
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: he has to be sophisticated with his words now, not

579
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: just primal, not just exact, but sophisticated. Almost gotta talking

580
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: like cold, almost have to be bilingual, like you cast that,

581
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: Oh y'all caught that? Oh you didn't catch that? Well,

582
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: you mean I didn't say anything like damn. I'm not

583
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: saying he's walking on eggshells because I think Chappelle got

584
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: it off, But it's crazy that it takes that much

585
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: work manufacturing just to get it off nowadays. Trust me,

586
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna address this issue going forward. And I'm gonna

587
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: end on obviously a heavy note, And what happened at

588
00:35:55,160 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: the University of Virginia and the shooting and unfortunately, the

589
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: loss of lives of those football players and those students.

590
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: Crazy enough, I wake up. First you gotta do is

591
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: check my phone. I know a lot of people say

592
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: when they wake up, you know you first. You got

593
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: to sit there for a few minutes and take it

594
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: all in, meditate, pray, wash your face, brush your teeth,

595
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. I'm I'm one of those who

596
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: grabs his phone first. I've been sleep for five hours,

597
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: six hours, whatever it may be, and I keep my

598
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: phone on vibrate. So all emergencies overnight, I'm missing them.

599
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: You call me with an emergency and I'm asleep. I

600
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: gotta wake up to find out what happened. So I

601
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: checked my phone and it's a text for my daughter.

602
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: Immediately opened it and she breaks down what happened because

603
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: she knew one of the students. My daughter for twelve

604
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: years lived in Charlottesville, and I knew one of the

605
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: students and obviously was traumatized by what happened. Now I

606
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: did my discovery into seeing it. And the saddest thing

607
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: about all of this is that there's no justification, no answering,

608
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: no excuse, no reason, nothing that will ever make this

609
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: digestible make this something that you can take in and understand, comprehend,

610
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: like there's no rhyme or reason. And it really hits

611
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: me hard because of the way I grew up, and

612
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: I felt so compromised because I had to waste so

613
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: much of my brain matter trying to navigate around violence,

614
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: like so mindful of violence everywhere I went. I was thinking,

615
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna jack me me. Oh, he gonna try and

616
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: fight me, he gonna try and beat me up. He

617
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: may you like all these obstacles that are invincible like

618
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: that are invisible, all these obstacles that are in your

619
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: way that. Oh, all I'm doing is just trying to

620
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: navigate around land minds that I don't see that I

621
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: may never see, but I gotta be prepared for just

622
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: in case I'm presented with it. You know how sad

623
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: that is, you know, a whack that is, no a

624
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: week that is, you know, wasteful that is. And then

625
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: you see a situation like this where it comes to life,

626
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: it becomes reality. You imagine being on a bus and

627
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: a former teammate comes on the bus and because of

628
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: disagreement or whatever it may be, you never make it home.

629
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: A lot has to change in the world, mindset, freedom

630
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: of expression. We have to be able to talk the

631
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: real to people so they can know the real dangers

632
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: out there, reality, the real. But the farther we get

633
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Speaker 1: away from that, the more that's in our rear view

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Speaker 1: mirror instead of right there as our passenger, the harder

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Speaker 1: it is to educate those and to prehab them before

636
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Speaker 1: they get into situations like this. And I'm not talking

637
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Speaker 1: about just unfortunately the victims. I'm talking about the assailant

638
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Speaker 1: like culturally, like, the culture of guns needs to be addressed,

639
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Speaker 1: the conditions in which the guns are being used needs

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00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: to be addressed, The mindset of those who have the

641
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Speaker 1: guns needs to be addressed so much. And I am

642
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Speaker 1: in effort, full effort, because I wouldn't be here. I

643
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be here if I weren't protected by grace and

644
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Speaker 1: mercy and luck and from elders who helped me what

645
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: real talk, how to navigate through those circumstances. And as

646
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Speaker 1: much as I look back and I'm thankful for him,

647
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: is as much as I look back and I saw

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00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: that all that should have been deemed unnecessary, That hell,

649
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Speaker 1: am I nine years old having to think like this for?

650
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Speaker 1: And what the hell are these kids, eighteen, nineteen, twenty

651
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Speaker 1: years old having to deal with that as a reality,

652
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Speaker 1: a loss of life. It's disturbing, to say the least,

653
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: and it's heavy on everyone's hearts. I really can't even

654
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Speaker 1: comprehend it, Like I can't even talk through it fully can.

655
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Speaker 1: I get emotional? Then I think about my kids, and

656
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: I think that now, telling my kids to go on

657
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Speaker 1: a field trip, telling my kids they're going to us

658
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: with their friends, classmates, teammates, maybe signing the death certificate.

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Speaker 1: You're kidding me. Prayers, thoughts, healing to all those involved,

660
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: and that's a greater number then you'll ever know. All right,

661
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: I gotta get off of that, man, and I gotta

662
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: end on a lighter note, because that's heavy, so damn sad.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a sit from the world of sports, right quick, hitters,

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Speaker 1: I have a little fun with it, y'all. Watch the

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Speaker 1: UFC this weekend. I saw it. Goodness, what USC there

666
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Speaker 1: on now? And like nine hunt I don't even know,

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Speaker 1: but I saw Alex Pererera versus Israel is he is?

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Speaker 1: It was s. I didn't saw you. If I said

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Speaker 1: your name wrong, I'm sorry, But yeah, man, I love

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Speaker 1: USC for one thing, and one thing only, is how

671
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: you can make up a deficit in UFC. That's just

672
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: different than football, than most sports like combat sports, UFC boxing.

673
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Speaker 1: You could be down thirty and it only takes one

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Speaker 1: shot and you up in the game over. It's like

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00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: you play football, you down thirty, you start looking at

676
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Speaker 1: the clock, like, all right, when this thing gonna run down?

677
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Speaker 1: So we can get about it here and try this

678
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Speaker 1: again next week. But in the UFC, did you see

679
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: Pereira down on the cards? Oh, he was losing that fight, down, down, down,

680
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden in that fifth round going

681
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Speaker 1: for broke, I'm hitting you with these these one hit

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Speaker 1: a quitters, these hay makers coming from the north and

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Speaker 1: south Pole. Yeah, y'a and is He was like what

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Speaker 1: And he had it in his back, in the back

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Speaker 1: of his head the whole time, you know that the

686
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Speaker 1: whole match, because he had lost to him twice before

687
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: kick boxing and all that, like, y know, this dude

688
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: got that thing that thunder. Gotta be careful, and he

689
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Speaker 1: was careful. But it's crazy when you go into a

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Speaker 1: match and your game plan is to be careful and

691
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: to be perfect, and his game plan is just catch

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Speaker 1: him once. It's like, damn, that's fifteen minutes that dude.

693
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Speaker 1: All he needs is one second and you need fifteen

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Speaker 1: minutes of perfection to beat his one second. Ah know,

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Speaker 1: some tough odds, brother, great matching, great time watching it

696
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Speaker 1: and UFC. That's special, man, because as much as I

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00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: love me some football basketball, it's something about, Hey, you

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Speaker 1: damn but you ain't out what I told you? That

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Speaker 1: was good to see, PATR Peterson, don't rock the change.

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Speaker 1: Let kirk Cousins have that. I know you're a beast

701
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Speaker 1: and you're still in shape shape, like you ain't in shape,

702
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: you in shape shape. You're bawled out. But it just

703
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Speaker 1: don't hit the same when anybody else wearing but Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: And y'all know why because you don't expect kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: to wear them. It's like what you're doing all that,

706
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Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's I don't know. It just felt like

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Speaker 1: the remix wasn't good as the original. But do you,

708
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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, you deserve them. But um flip the script

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Speaker 1: do something they don't even expect. Hey, Russell Wilson, Um

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Speaker 1: watch what you asked for? God, don't whoa raise? Your

711
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Speaker 1: hand if you want to get out of town. Now

712
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Speaker 1: raise your hand if you want to go back. I

713
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Speaker 1: think it's the same dude with his hand up Russell Wilson.

714
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Speaker 1: I saw Floyd Mayweather over the weekend with another money grab.

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Speaker 1: I love Money Team. I love Floyd, y'all know. I

716
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Speaker 1: love that dude because money grab now is here. That's

717
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: his hobby. Like he worked his ass off and became

718
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: such a great boxer, undefeated, fifty and old that now

719
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Speaker 1: his hobby is I still fight, but just for the

720
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: bag and just clown dudes and just to have fun.

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Speaker 1: Like you imagine all of that work turns into even

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Speaker 1: more money, but it ain't even real, Like you did

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Speaker 1: it for real and got paid and got accolades and

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Speaker 1: became the one of, if not the greatest boxer ever,

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Speaker 1: and now you're just clowning with it and still killing it. Man,

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Speaker 1: y'all bare leave that dude alone. That sounds like goals

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Speaker 1: to me. Cooper Cup, it's hurt. Come on, y'all, rams

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Speaker 1: are hurt, and and now Cooper Cups hurt all bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it here. My sister Tiki, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear a lot about her. O g Heney. Look, I

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Speaker 1: call her and if y'all know where that's from, hit

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Speaker 1: me on the gram, hit me on Twitter, because not

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Speaker 1: too many remembered O g Heney. Look. But my sister

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Speaker 1: Tiki Um has a list of questions she wanted me

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Speaker 1: to ask all my guests, and I was like, why

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Speaker 1: can't I answer them? So here's here's one of them.

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Speaker 1: Here's the first one. How would you describe yourself in

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Speaker 1: one word? For me, I would describe myself as mindful,

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Speaker 1: no matter what I'm up to, no matter what I've

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Speaker 1: done good, bad, and ugly, no matter how much trouble

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Speaker 1: I've been in, I've always been mindful aware like yo,

742
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Speaker 1: i'm sucking up, I ain't gonna lie, or like yo,

743
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't be doing this, but or when I'm doing right,

744
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yep, this is the way to do it. Yep,

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Speaker 1: go to Columbia. Oh oh, nobody thinks you should. Oh oh,

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00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: you're not gonna make it to the league. I'm mindful

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Speaker 1: of what my decision was. I know the risks involved

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00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: with it. I'll be all right. I've always been mindful,

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Speaker 1: So if I had to pick a word, it's mindful.

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Speaker 1: Y'all hit me with your word on Twitter and let

751
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: me see what you're talking about. These Eagles inspired me

752
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: to tell you all this story. I'm gonna try to

753
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: end with story time because a lot of people tell

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00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: me the best part of me being a broadcasters when

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Speaker 1: I go to story time. All Right, if y'all right,

756
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm about to tell your story. If y'all wrong, then sorry,

757
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm about to bore y'all. See. The Eagles lose. The

758
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles lose for the first time to be back

759
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: to win. I lost my first game ever in Pop Warner.

760
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: I had played one year. We won all our games.

761
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Speaker 1: I think we were twelve old champions. Stays Bosman on

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00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: that team, you remember, Stays Boseman goodness beasts. Second year,

763
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: win all those games. Stays Boseman gone, he moved up.

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Speaker 1: He was too good. So I'm the man. Bam. We

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00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: win all those games, Championship. Third year, win all those games, Championship.

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00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm still the man. Fourth year, I'm still the man.

767
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: Win all those games, Championship. Game would that happened was?

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00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: Was that the whole seven Patriots had to go against

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Speaker 1: number twenty seven in the North Orange County Piranha fast

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00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: forward through that game. We're losing six zero. I didn't score,

771
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Speaker 1: and I could tell them parents in the stands for

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Speaker 1: Inglewood where I played, probably cursing me out. Hell wrong

773
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: with Marcellus. I'm gonna tell you what's wrong with marcellers.

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00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: My teammates scared. The number twenty seven ain't blocking this dude.

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00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: This dude, he had to make it to the league.

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00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: Number twenty seven, wherever you at, please hit your boy up.

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00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: I know you in the league, somewhere. You made it

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00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: and you retired. I hope knowing you. Though you were

779
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: so good. You're probably still playing Tom Brady style. But

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Speaker 1: number twenty seven, only dude could tackle me. Eight team

781
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: was all right too, but seven and one last player

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00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: of the game. Y'all, I had played four years of

783
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: football and never seen a past grown let alone, never

784
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: caught a pass. But we couldn't do anything else. So

785
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: coach lines me up in the slot. This is on

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00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: film too, if y'all think I'm lying. And he threw

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00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: me a ball, threw me a pass. He was like,

788
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: we gotta change this up. We gotta zig when they zagged.

789
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: We gotta just go different. We're going upstream today. And

790
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: he threw me a pass and I caught it, and

791
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I weaved and I weaved and I weaved, and you

792
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: can hear the crowd going, We're about to win on

793
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: the last play in the games, go co co come

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Speaker 1: and here come twenty seven. That bus bus number twenty

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Speaker 1: seven RTD style was me like in yard line boom,

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00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: game over, and it's crazy. That was the first game

797
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: I ever lost. And when I lost it, it was weird,

798
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: like I wanted to cry because it was devastating, not

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00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: only a championship lost, but my first game I ever

800
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: lost playing football. But something whispered to me, Man, did

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00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: you expect to win them all? M hmm. I wonder

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00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: right now how the Philadelphia Eagles gonna respond to this,

803
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: because did they expect to win them all? Maybe they did,

804
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't. But I noticed cendy two dolphins didn't.

805
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: Meaning on the wild he is a man. They're gonna

806
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: be loose, they're gonna be crazy, They're gonna be all

807
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Speaker 1: over the place. Here's one The world is too violent

808
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Speaker 1: and two censored for us to leave it like this

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Speaker 1: for our kids. Say it again. The w old is

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Speaker 1: too number two violent and two number two censored. Four

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Speaker 1: number four us to leave it like this for our kids.

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Speaker 1: This world's too violent, too censored, for us to leave

813
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: it like this for our kids. Y'all, we could do better.

814
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Speaker 1: Let's do better. All right, y'all get up out of here. Man.

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Speaker 1: Thank that's gonna do it. For More to It, check

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Speaker 1: the show notes for all the information on our guests

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Speaker 1: and topics today. You want to keep the conversation going,

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Speaker 1: less talk, You can find me on all socials at

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Speaker 1: Patrick Productions, That Dude Entertainment, Workhouse Media, and Jams Street Media.

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Speaker 1: The show is executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcellos Wally,

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Speaker 1: Dad Dude, Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, and Maddie Stout. I'm

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Speaker 1: Marcellos Wally. Thanks for listening, and thanks for those reviews.

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Speaker 1: They help review More to stop just liking and and

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Speaker 1: starring say somethin'. Damn it, There's more comin from More

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