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Speaker 2: Doalks look at us now, tip to tip. This is

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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

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Speaker 2: bring to this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hello every ball Today. It's the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth of October twenty twenty one, and it is time.

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Speaker 1: I think it's episode two twenty for Morning Combat. Hello there,

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Speaker 1: I am Luke Thomas. I am from the capital of

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Speaker 1: Sostatus on Nitos, and I am one half of your

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Speaker 1: hosting duo from CBS Sports, My CBS Sports and Showtime Brethren.

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Speaker 1: He is the king of Connecticut. He is He has

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Speaker 1: washed like a like a used car waiting to be

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Speaker 1: picked up by someone with five bucks to give. My

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Speaker 1: friend and yours. It's Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell, Hello, Luke, Hello, Luke.

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Speaker 2: People know what they get when they get this show, right.

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Speaker 2: If they get it, they know what they get. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we light a candle, We run laps around the English Channel.

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Speaker 1: Neptune's got a cocker Spaniel.

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Speaker 2: What what? What? What? What? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 2: What else is there to say? Right? You got narratives?

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Speaker 2: What do you got? Okay? We got the best damn

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Speaker 2: show in Combat sports going today BC LT okay, sometimes

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Speaker 2: DK sometimes boukack. We're gonna stir it around regardless. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna stir that ship.

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Speaker 1: Up, dude. I remember when that song came out. That

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Speaker 1: I'm like, let me get this straight. The opening bars

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Speaker 1: are we light a candle, run laps around the English channel.

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Speaker 1: Neptune's got a cocker Spaniel. That's the name. That's what

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Speaker 1: we're doing here. Okay, all right, Noriega, I see what

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Speaker 1: you did. All right. I'll forgive you because the CNN

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Speaker 1: album is good, but.

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Speaker 2: Probably because you forgive them because the song is is

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Speaker 2: is the shit? Luke, Okay, it was good. It was

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Speaker 2: what what what?

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Speaker 1: It was a good song.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot to do today, so we got

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Speaker 1: you learn about Marvin Vattori from this fight, this performance,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were things I already suspected or thought I

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Speaker 2: This is a ballsy effort, a ballsy win, a very

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Speaker 2: basically when this fight started. I thought Vittori was more

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Speaker 2: it didn't advance him in my eyes, meaning you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's got an uphill battle with the fact that

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Speaker 2: very elite Vittori, who showed good technique, good game planning,

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Speaker 2: And again he was in an absolute savage battle with

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Speaker 1: I like this win for him. I'm not I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: it was a little bit more, a little bit higher.

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about cost in a minute. I thought he

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Speaker 1: clearly had a good game plan of not just backing up,

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Speaker 1: but Costa defends with his hands like this constantly in

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Speaker 1: worry about whether or not Marvin Vittoria is gonna make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see it more offensive in the

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Speaker 2: When Costa sort of you know, bites down and let's

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Speaker 1: Bro. The only thing he has to kind of figure

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Speaker 1: On some level. If I'm him, I'm not it's complicated.

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Speaker 1: If I'm him, I'm slowing down the pace at which

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd also like to see him find a finishing angle,

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Speaker 2: right Like, I don't want to just see this guy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, this was a soap opera for

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of that going around. Just like Luke.

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Speaker 2: He's using that as a cover. Look, we don't really

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Speaker 2: So here's what I saw from Costa in this fight.

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Speaker 2: He's not fucked up enough to where he can't knock

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Speaker 2: walking into that head kick, he may have won that

432
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 2: fight and we would just go. How much of all

433
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,680
Speaker 2: this is a red flag when he can still finish guys. Look, Luke,

434
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,679
Speaker 2: he can still finish guys. He has not lost his

435
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 2: ability to pull the trigger or his ability to take

436
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,199
Speaker 2: big shots, fight through fatigue and keep fighting. I mean,

437
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,920
Speaker 2: he's a warrior, but he's screwed up right now, Luke.

438
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 2: He is not wired correctly, is what I'm trying to say.

439
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,199
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I don't know if

440
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: it's his personal life. I don't know what exactly it is.

441
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 2: But what led up to both his bizarre performance against

442
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 2: out of Sonya mixed with the very bizarre handling of

443
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 2: his weight through this fight I think only continued in

444
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 2: the cage by the way that he fought. Luke, tell

445
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, but he he shouldn't be fighting

446
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 2: like this yet, this reckless, this just sort of animalistic. Yes,

447
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: it's a part of what made him great. And how

448
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,640
Speaker 2: did he survive that Romero fight by being an absolute animal?

449
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 2: For Luke, tell me if I'm wrong. I saw a

450
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 2: little bit of like I don't want to say desperation,

451
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 2: is it laziness? I just saw an error in the

452
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 2: cage that was like, oh, man, if he goes on

453
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 2: this road, if he tries to be this guy every fight,

454
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 2: his prime is gonna be short. It's gonna be explosive,

455
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be short.

456
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: Well, I guess what I would ask you is you

457
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: didn't see this before, you know.

458
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,360
Speaker 2: I saw more of a of an idea of like, look,

459
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: this is who I am. What makes me great is

460
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,479
Speaker 2: my danger and my ability to accrue danger and keep fighting.

461
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 2: But I saw it wrapped in a package of I'm

462
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,640
Speaker 2: gonna try to win the championship and be the best

463
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: complete fighter I can be. I saw a spirit in

464
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 2: this fight that was more like f it, man, let's

465
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 2: go to war and we'll see what happens. I don't

466
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 2: think that. I don't think that's been apples to apples

467
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: this whole way. Do you disagree?

468
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit, A little bit. I mean,

469
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: I definitely see what you're talking about. I think you're

470
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: definitely onto something. And like listen, when someone misses weight,

471
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: it's usually like one of three or a combination of

472
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: three different things. One the fight was on late notice,

473
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: so they just couldn't get down. Two, they were just

474
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: unprofessional and they didn't prepare properly and blah blah blah,

475
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: and then three they had an injury. Those are in

476
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: the camp. Those are the three main culprits he's claiming

477
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: he had one. But it's like, I don't understand this

478
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: shit anymore, man, Like, if your injury is not enough

479
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: to stop you from getting cleared medically to fight, can

480
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: we fuck off with these excuses about missing weight. It's like, oh,

481
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 1: I couldn't make weight, but I'm perfectly good enough to

482
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 1: go fistfight another, you know, world class fighter in a

483
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: main event on television. It's like, well, do well, which

484
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: is it? Man? Which is it?

485
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: You know?

486
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 1: And I get the thread in that needle can sometimes

487
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: be a little bit more complicated than I'm giving it.

488
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just saying a little bit fatigued with oh,

489
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Speaker 1: I couldn't make weight because that an injury, but I'm

490
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: perfectly good to fight, Like, yeah, I don't believe something

491
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: here just doesn't really add up. But as for the

492
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: fight itself, I actually thought, dude, I thought he performed

493
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: pretty well given his skill set. Now what do I

494
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: mean by that? Okay, you would probably agree of the

495
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: two Vittori and Costa as hard of a hitter and

496
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: a big strong guy as Vittori is Costa. Those digs

497
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: to the body with the left hook, the rear leg,

498
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 1: roundhouse to the middle, up the gut was I mean,

499
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: he was punished. I could not believe Vittori's ribs didn't

500
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: get shattered from some of those shots. He was just

501
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 1: a fucking bulldozer with that and that head kick he landed.

502
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: It was nice. He set it up with the jab

503
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: and it looked like he was the kick was not

504
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: going to come behind it, and it did, of course,

505
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: because he was setting it up like he looked pretty good.

506
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: But he only throws single shots. He doesn't really faint.

507
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: He explodes into position, and so when he lands, Dude,

508
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: he lands with a ton of authority. He just is

509
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: not a very relative to even Vittori and a specially

510
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: Ata Sonya. He's just not a very sophisticated striker. He's

511
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: a punishing striker. He's an athletic striker. He's a good striker.

512
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: He's not a bast striker. Bracewarch of the imagination. But

513
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: even Vittori was setting up better angles, and he was

514
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: putting punches and strikes together, and he was going high

515
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: low and really kind of differentiating against Atta Sonya. It

516
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: was men versus boys in terms of the thinking through

517
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: the problems. To me, I just saw a lot of

518
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: not totally, but I saw a lot of what we

519
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: had seen previously, where he relies on big power to

520
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: cause problems for opponents. They begin to panic, they begin

521
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: to make bad decisions, they double over, whatever the cause

522
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: of the punishment may be, and then he builds on that.

523
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: Ata Sonya made a point before they had fought. If

524
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Speaker 1: you look at all of the knockouts that a guy

525
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: like Coasta has, they're not typically in the middle of

526
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: the octagon. They're all against the fence because he's just

527
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: pressuring these guys backwards. And then just the rain of

528
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: the hurricane is so overwhelming they can't get right. Well,

529
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: Vittori could just deal with it, and so would you

530
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: say was a very effective but limited skill set, just

531
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: not really able to get himself over the hump, even

532
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: though he's a big power punccher. But I have to say, well,

533
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: I don't think what he has is going to be

534
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: a different if he fought Attasania a second time. I

535
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: didn't see anything there, dude. He's a punishing striker and

536
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: for a lot of people for the rest of the time.

537
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: As long as he can do this, that's going to

538
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: be a very effective way to win. He's going to

539
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: win fights he shouldn't as a matter of fact, because

540
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: he is so punishing with it. I don't know that

541
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: I saw a whole lot necessarily new.

542
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: Well, regardless of who's right, meaning, is this who he's

543
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: always been and just naturally who he is, or is

544
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: there something majorly off? And that's what these warning sizes

545
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: are seeing. And he's sort of falling into all or

546
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: nothing mode either way, Luke, I agree with you. He's

547
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: going to beat an elite foe. He shouldn't. You know.

548
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: He may end up fighting for a title, you know,

549
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: sooner than later if he can package a couple big wins.

550
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: But I think what needed to be there to get

551
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: the most out of him, I think it's there anymore.

552
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: And maybe that plays into some of the bizarre behavior.

553
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I still don't know what to

554
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: make exactly of the red Wine story. In the out

555
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: of Sidney situation. Was that just a mental just clam up,

556
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: you know, did he did he did? He did he

557
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: you know, freak himself out? I don't know what it was,

558
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: but I don't think he's been the same since then.

559
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: And I do give him a lot of credit though,

560
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: all things considering, all things considered, for biting down and

561
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 2: just going for it in this fight. And maybe that's

562
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: not a major removal from the strategy he normally uses.

563
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: Look go back and watch the Rye A. Hall fight again.

564
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: Just go It's not that he's always leading on the

565
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 2: cards and carrying out this strategic game plan. I don't know.

566
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: I just saw a sharper more focused. There was more

567
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: of a plan overall. This was more of a caveman reaction,

568
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: which again was great for theater. But Luke, unless he

569
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: figures out what's happening, I do feel like he's not

570
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: necessarily the one driving this car at the moment, if

571
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying. I feel like he's there's

572
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: something off and he's chasing it to try to put

573
00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: it back together.

574
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: If he can't hurt you with a big shot, here's

575
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: what he banks on. He banks on one of those

576
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: lefts to the lever. He banks on one of those

577
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: big middle kicks or something. If he can't disrupt what

578
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: you're doing and get you to panic or again physically

579
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: fall over or just back up mentally with a big strike.

580
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't appear to have another gear to go to.

581
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: He relies on the fact that he knows most of

582
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: the time. If he connects on a big shot, people

583
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: react poorly, they lose their bearing, and when they lose

584
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: their bearing and he smells blood, he's all over them,

585
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: like white on rice. The problem was, Vittori just is

586
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: not that guy. He's kno going to back down from

587
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: huge shots. He is durable as all hell, and so

588
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: he just found himself in a position where all he

589
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: could do was either more or less of what he

590
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: was already doing. And Moore was certainly more dangerous. But

591
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: then a guy like Vittori, you know, is clinching, pressing

592
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: him against the fence, that sort of a thing. And

593
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: so what he has to find is like better ways

594
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: to set up his strikes. He has to find way

595
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: what happens if I don't hurt a guy, what do

596
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: I do? Then he just doesn't have and for example,

597
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: like the Tori's takedowns in this fight were not super

598
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: overwhelming or anything, but he at least had a something

599
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: of another gear to go to in a couple of

600
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: the rounds. If a guy like Costa can't hurt you,

601
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: does he ever go for the takedown and then work

602
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: to get onto it's just that gear or nothing. That's

603
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: sort of the thing I'm pointing out. It's like what

604
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: he kills issue to me?

605
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: Do you want even more layers to that where Okay,

606
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: he got to a point where he needed a knockout

607
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: and you could say, okay, well he's kind of fighting

608
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: the whole fight like he needed a knockout. That's sort

609
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: of who he is, Okay, but do you need him

610
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: then to try to lure victory into a war when

611
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: he realizes he's down on the cards and not just

612
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: looking for one punch, because really the key for a

613
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: Tory winning this and I thought even with the point deduction,

614
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: you know he won it across the board. I think

615
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: was never was having caveman fun action brawl responses and moments,

616
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: but not letting it get completely out of hand is

617
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: what won it for for Tory. Right, he would go

618
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 2: back to his roots of jab looking to set up

619
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: the offense. I mean, do you think Hosta just just

620
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: was thinking, I hit harder than this guy. I can

621
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: get him into a war, and when I do, it's over,

622
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: because you know, if it's that simple, it's still he's

623
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: still off. Luke.

624
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's exactly what he thinks. I think

625
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: what he thinks is eventually I'm gonna hit you with

626
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: something and you're gonna you're gonna react poorly to it,

627
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: and then I'm just gonna swarm you and this will

628
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: be over. Vittri is just a brick wall. It's just

629
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: not gonna happen against the guy like that. Let me

630
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: ask you about that. Where were you on the point

631
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: being taken? You brought it up? Daniel Cormier made a

632
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: point to say that he thought Herzog was buying to

633
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: the headlines. I totally disagree. Where are you No?

634
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: I think if you watch an earlier fight to the

635
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: evening where he took away a point, what was it?

636
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: Was it the Alex Caceras fight. Yes, it was Luke.

637
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: He went up there against the fella's name was yeah

638
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: sung Wu Choi, soung wo cho Wu Choi, and Luke.

639
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: I thought both were the same situation where okay, was

640
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: there a large, loud, demonstrative set of warnings where you're like, okay,

641
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: you know one more. No, But there was enough subtlety

642
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: to the con to the warnings where it's like I

643
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: would while I'd never want the referee to become a

644
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: part of the story, I never want him to lean

645
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: on this, you know. I never want there to be

646
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: too many points then too little taken away. I do

647
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: like the fair and stern standing down on this, where like, okay, look,

648
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: these things change fights. You know, low blows, you know,

649
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: fingers to the eye. So how many times do you

650
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: see in boxing anime and made the multiple you know,

651
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: one more time, I'll take it away if you ends

652
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: up being four warnings before they finally do that. If

653
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: you want to get rid of people leading with their

654
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: fingers and putting them some situations where you could get pokes,

655
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: you act this stern so overall Looke, I thought it,

656
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: it's sort of like a strike zone to me, with

657
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: an umpire and baseball, some are going to be so

658
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: damned you know, on the ball and call strikes for

659
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: anything close and as a hitter and team you adjust

660
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: to that. If he wants to be a strict referee,

661
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: I didn't think he went overboard at all. I think that,

662
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, Coasta needs to realize this.

663
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that as well. And also it's

664
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: like you go back and you listen to the fight.

665
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: There was a time he had poked Marvelvatory in the

666
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: eye that I don't know if they stopped the action

667
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: for I don't recall that, but I do recall him

668
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: being like, watch your fingers, watch your fingers, watch your fingers.

669
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: Then this happened, they did have to stop the action.

670
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: He took a point, dude, What is the fucking problem.

671
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Everyone complains that these guys get poked in the eye,

672
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: not once, not twice, sometimes three times, and even then

673
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: they don't take a goddamn point. No, dude, this is

674
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: a UFC main event. You guys are in the top

675
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: five of this division. You are by definition, world class

676
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: elite talent. Close your fucking fingers after you get warned

677
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: by the referee. End of story, end of story. I

678
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: have zero problem with him taking the point. In fact,

679
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: I commend him for just not tolerating this bullshit anymore.

680
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the fence scrabs. Dude. Every week when

681
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: I go back and I look at the finishes, especially

682
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: if it's some kind of like dars choke or something.

683
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: These guys are putting their feet into the fence, putting

684
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: their toes in there, which they're not supposed to, and

685
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: then using that as levers to get to to get

686
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: the win. Dude, I'm sick of this shit.

687
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: Call. Ask you fin difficult? Two very difficult questions related

688
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 2: to this, Luke, Yes, can I can I put you

689
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: on the hot seat? Okay? Difficult? Question Number one is

690
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: DC's over aggressive take in that direction meant to take

691
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: away from people remembering that he used ipokes to uh

692
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: against step A to his advantage in more than one situation,

693
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: to sort of try to get away from being the

694
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: ipoke guy.

695
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think to distract from that

696
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: because he's retired and no one really cares anymore. But

697
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like he wants a referee who has

698
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: a laxer environment related to those kinds of concerns. I'll

699
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: put it that way.

700
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: And number two, Luke, regarding that point takeaway here, Uh yeah,

701
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: I forgot it already, Luke, who cares?

702
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing on this Dana said Costa has to

703
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: go to two five next, I mean, it's not even

704
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: up for debate. And then Coast is like, no, I'm

705
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: not leaving one a five until I get the belt.

706
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: Where would you prefer to see him there? I'll let

707
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: them work out what's gonna happen. But would you prefer

708
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: to see him atwo f five or back on one

709
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: eighty five?

710
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: No, I prefer to see him taking his preyer serius

711
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: at one eighty five and being a title contender and

712
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: getting the most out of his prime before then transitioning

713
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: full time into Hey man, I hit harder than you.

714
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: Let's brawl. And that's fine. You can be that it's

715
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: gonna be. You know, you're gonna be here for a

716
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: good time, not a long time, but that's fine. Luke.

717
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: The question I want to ask you real quick was

718
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: the out the outlash against the point taking away? How

719
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: much of it subtly do you think it's people saying

720
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: maybe Herzog was penalizing Kasta for the whole weight situation.

721
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: I think it's absurd and right especially Yeah, I mean,

722
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, literally, you have no not you,

723
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: but the proverbial you. You have no evidence for that.

724
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, cost was in the headlines. He took

725
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: a point quicker than other referees. There must be a connection.

726
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: This is the most amateurish form of reasoning I think

727
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

728
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus he did the same thing earlier against choice,

729
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: So yes, good, good call. Okay, all right that one

730
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: with that, Yes.

731
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: It's okay, all right. So with that out of the way,

732
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about about the last Emperor himself. We go

733
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: to Belletor, which aired on Showtime from Moscow, Russia on Saturday,

734
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: And dude, BC, you and I and I'll take I'll

735
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: put and raise my hand like you know. We have

736
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: a whole segment on the show Dead Wrong where we

737
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: have the listeners hold us to account, but sometimes we

738
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: have to hold ourselves to account. Maybe certainly I'll speak

739
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: for myself here. Maybe a bit too dismissive of fad Or,

740
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: although I do recognize at forty five it's not altogether

741
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: unfair to ask questions about when he's gonna hang it up.

742
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: But okay, he fights Timothy Johnson, and do I can

743
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: see why they picked Timothy Johnson because the speed differential

744
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: was out of control. Even at forty five, fad Or

745
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: is still lightning quick for a heavyweight. Three piece combos

746
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: sits Johnson down, head, snaps back. Referee calls it all right,

747
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: fad or while impressive, did he prove that he should

748
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: keep going? Or with such an impressive win, is now

749
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: the perfect time to say see you when I see you?

750
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: Okay? In reality? Yes, reality is it's the perfect time

751
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: because he just did this at home, by the way,

752
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: But looke, he's not gonna do it, and we all

753
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: know he's not gonna do it. If anything, this is

754
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: gonna buy him more time. And you know, let's let

755
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: me slip back into fan mode for a second. Good lord,

756
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 2: did he look great? So if he wants more time

757
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: and he wants to fight somewhat flawed guys who are

758
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: still dangerous, yes there's a market for it. And this

759
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 2: is me being as anti old guy fights as ever.

760
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: I'm still telling you that this version of him, oh man,

761
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean, did did things go perfectly? God? It was

762
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: in his backyard and Johnson played to his style in

763
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: that same ninety second window that you and I talked

764
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: about where he's hella dangerous. Of course, so it was

765
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: best case scenario. But you can't lie what you saw, Luke.

766
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: He was in much better physical condition that we've seen

767
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: in years. It wasn't that the pooch. The famous you

768
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: know bear belly wasn't there. It was smaller. He was

769
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: cut up more than normal. And Luke the second we

770
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: saw him enter that cage with that Stefan Bonner versus

771
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva Tanning job, we should have known something was up.

772
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: That was like divorce Dad, midlife crisis, gets the convertible

773
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: with the with the ponytail. This was a wake up

774
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: call that in which we found out afterwards that Fador

775
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: is actually very nervous about fighting at home having media

776
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: in his camp that much. He went on to say

777
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: after the fight that he's like, I'd much rather go

778
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: to the States to move on because of, you know,

779
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: the nerves. I think that actually brought out the best

780
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: of him to not want to get stopped in front

781
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: of his home country. I mean, it worked out perfectly.

782
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: But here's the deeper thing we got. Let's be honest here,

783
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: He's now nine and four in the last decade, in

784
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: this entire decade started with the loss of big Footsilva

785
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: and the Dan Hendel lost after it, and it's we

786
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: say a lot, you know, Okay, he's had pockets of

787
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: such dramatic reinvention, but we know the reality, he caught

788
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: other faded fighters at the right time with the right

789
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: punch similar to this fight. I don't know, he may

790
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: be the opposite of every other fighter, Luke, the more

791
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: active he is, the fatter he is. But yet taking

792
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: some time off and changing up the circumstances here it

793
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: kind of got him to be like, oh, you know,

794
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: like to find the love again. And you know he's

795
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: only doing it still because he loves it. But I

796
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: think he really loved it again entering this fight, and

797
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 2: I think he's, you know, his mojo is back after

798
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: a performance like this. So I he's the only person

799
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: ever who the more they fight in a short period

800
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: of time, the worse their conditioning gets. He almost needs this,

801
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, the random bunch of the time off. He

802
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: gets to kind of remember that he's a badass and

803
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: that maybe he just needs to train a little harder

804
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: and he can keep this longevity going. So in the end,

805
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: I give him a ton of respect for this matchmaking

806
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: because not only was it balls in the fact that

807
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: it's a guy who could beat him and if this

808
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: fight hadn't ended in ninety seconds again, who knows what

809
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: it looks like after that, But also like you laid out.

810
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: It's kind of sneaky good matchmaking on his own part,

811
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: having been in the corner of Valentine Moldowski in the

812
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: lost Johnson fight to try to see what he needed

813
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: to see.

814
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Dude, I was. I was impressed by the way the

815
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: tan thing. I think people don't realize this. He's consistently

816
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: pretty tann.

817
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: Now, not like this.

818
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: This was. He was very bronze for this one. He

819
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: was the bronze bomber from Russia. This time I recognize.

820
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: But still he's usually a tannem than folks realized. But okay,

821
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: you're right, dude, he looked a little bit better the

822
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: time off. I mean, I you know, hard to say

823
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: competitively at forty five one of the best ingredients for

824
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: a guy at the stage, But you're right. I think

825
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: the individual circumstances of performing in Moscow, with the pressure

826
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: that was there on top of that, with the time off,

827
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: he had' compid since the Rampage Jackson fight, selecting Timothy Johnson.

828
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing you point out, Like, dude, I

829
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: was there at that fight with Big Fitzilva. Big Fitzilva

830
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: was a lit of a different threat on the ground

831
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: at that time, but you know, he moved to mount

832
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: on fad Or, he was beating them like a drum.

833
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: You would just have to sort of wonder if Timothy

834
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: Johnson would have gotten the take down, what would have happened.

835
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: But we just never got to that point and fade

836
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: or Speed was just unbelievable, dude beating Timothy Johnson, like

837
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: Timothy Johnson's revent reinvention since going to belt or is

838
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: kind of real. Like, I take that seriously. I think

839
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: he's a massively improved fighter. I have a lot of

840
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: respect for him, and this win should count as like

841
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: a relevant heavyweight wins good win. It's a good as

842
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: great win. It's a really great win. See, And this

843
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: is why either way, I'm not saying there's no wrong answer,

844
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: and hardly that we have the right one, But do

845
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: you look that good at forty five against an opponent

846
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: di Credible? It's like, you know, can you really say, oh,

847
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: now's the time to call it quits. It is in

848
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: the sense of if you want to leave them wanting more,

849
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: now is the perfect time. But if you want to

850
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: keep going based on the results, how on earth do

851
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: you look at him in the face and say you

852
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: can't do it. He looked, He looked phenomenal, especially if

853
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: they're equally clever. With the next kind of matchmaking, where

854
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: you find someone who's talent and good but and bigger

855
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: but maybe a little bit slower, there's some ways in

856
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: which Fador can be more nimble around them. Dude, at

857
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: forty five. It's the same formula he's been using since

858
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: the Pride days. Not for every opponent, but for a

859
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: lot of them. Just be a middleweight in a heavyweight

860
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: division and crack these guys with blistering handspeed, good accuracy,

861
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: good timing. He completely timed the jab and then the

862
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: lead hook of Timothy Johnson. I was impressed it. I

863
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: was way too harsh about what this could have been.

864
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: I was way too dismissive Fadal and I have to

865
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: say this too, Well.

866
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, don't Luke, don't beat yourself up. You saw him

867
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: against bay Or, you saw him against these other guys,

868
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: like a more elite guy should get to him. But

869
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: he he just looked better do everything about it. He

870
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: was more on point. I mean, he doesn't do that

871
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: level of three punch combo to get a guy out

872
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: of there, when in some of these other fights when

873
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: he's fatter. I dude, the spirit something about him was

874
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: just changed. Man, he was just it was different.

875
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: I think you're onto something with that. The one thing

876
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: I will say, though, is, and I think you would

877
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: agree with this. We have been Yeah, you can see

878
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: his physique there. He's always you know, he's never gonna

879
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: have six pack aves. But you're right, he didn't look

880
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: nearly as flabby as I'd seen him in other times.

881
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: What I would say also is, dude, it's been nice

882
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: to see this in different ways. And this is one

883
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: thing we give a ton of crap to UFC about,

884
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: not because it's their fault per se, but because they're

885
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: not designed for it. Where if you this was a

886
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: very credible win by FATA or what I mean to

887
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: say is we talked about it before, Anderson Silva just

888
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: never really getting a proper exit, and people are like

889
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: trying to find, you know, this contortionist way to find

890
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: a fight for Nick Diaz where he can both win

891
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: and look good and it gets somebody relevant. It's quite

892
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: difficult because, dude, the UFC just features by and large,

893
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: the very best at their very best at the moment,

894
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: and so when you're outside of those circumstances they don't

895
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: really know what to do with you. Beltware has been

896
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more nimble, both on both ends. Right

897
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: where they can get someone like and Aj McKee and

898
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: give him all of his fights up until he's a

899
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: title contender, and also while this was a very credible win,

900
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: they can give someone who's a little bit older a

901
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: softer landing. In either case, what I want to just

902
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: say was, it's nice to see fad Or get a

903
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: win like this where he not only beats someone relevant,

904
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: but he looked fucking awesome. To be good at age

905
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: forty five, it felt really good.

906
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, did it feel better than Anderson Silva out

907
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: boxing Chavis Junior? That was weird, no different, but it

908
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: felt really good. And by the way, as a fan,

909
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: it's like, look, you and I become so jaded. I

910
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: mean we're fans, obviously, but we're like, we're journalist fans,

911
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: and that becomes jading. It becomes well, it's my job,

912
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: you know, you don't always reconnect. It's why I like

913
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: resume review, because you're fminds me rewatching some of these

914
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: older fights. The emotions I had at the time, which

915
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: was probably more purer than like the fan side of it.

916
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: But yet I love cracking that hardcore, jaded shell and

917
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: have a reason to fan cheer again. And this was

918
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: that look. I wanted to ask you about Fador's of

919
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: his physique because I remember, you know, as far back

920
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 2: as like twenty nine, twenty ten, through the losses to uh,

921
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: you know, to Verdom and then the big Foot one

922
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: saying well, what about if you just got in shape?

923
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: And of course you're always gonna get people saying two things. One, well,

924
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: that's how Fador has always generally looked, and two you

925
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: could say, as a smaller heavyweight, does he like an

926
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: extra amount of size to not be handled on the ground.

927
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, Tyson, Fury carries more weight than you

928
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: would think would be necessary, yet he uses it to

929
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: his advantage. What do you think about the idea of

930
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: what if Fador, either historically or even right now, just

931
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: got into really good freaking shape, could it be a

932
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 2: dramatic difference in what we see.

933
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't tend to think he's ever been out of shape,

934
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: out of shape, like unprofessionally out of shape. This one

935
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: looked better, I agree. I mean, he's forty five, I

936
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: still think as good as he looked, and as impressive

937
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: as it was, and all the great blessings and nice

938
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: things we can say about him, we just need to

939
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: be cognitive the fact that I do think this was

940
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: something of a favorable matchup that I didn't quite understand

941
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: until I saw it play out, But I think they

942
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: saw it ahead of time. And then also, you know,

943
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: individual circumstances being what they are, it would be wrong

944
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: to conclude that, like, oh, what he really needs is

945
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: just to run more. I mean, he needs a little

946
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: bit of girth to be able to handle the size

947
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: of the opponents, but it needs to be a little

948
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: bit slender to maintain the speed advantages. Sometimes he's gotten

949
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: that calibration wrong, he dialed it in this time. But

950
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: even with that, we just have to have managed expectations.

951
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's sort of the joy of it,

952
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: all right, you have managed expectations, like you know, what,

953
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: can Fedo really do? A forty five? And I still

954
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: think his next fight he might go back to be

955
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: turning back into a pumpkin. But for this one, dude,

956
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: he was Cinderella at the ball. Jesus Christ, he looked great.

957
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: Take it for what it is, but let's not get

958
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: too too crazy about it, all.

959
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: Right, match matchmaking, Monday match match what uh luke? Tell

960
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: me if you hate this? You ready for this? All Right,

961
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna go to the States. We're gonna go to Chicago,

962
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: where Fador loves to fight in, loves the support, and

963
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: we do fad Or against gay Guard Musaci legend versus

964
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: Legend at heavyweight. Come on, come on, come on, bro,

965
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: come on, you like you like?

966
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: That's not my favorite. I was hoping you would say,

967
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: rematch with Verdome. I wonder if that might be a

968
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: little bit different.

969
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's cool, that's cool. Okay, but don't you

970
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: want to if I don't know.

971
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: He's got more juice, more than I am.

972
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: He's got more juice than we thought. But yet it's

973
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: still fools gold. Yep, it's you know, all things considered,

974
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: the homecoming. He was in better shape than normal. It's

975
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: all fools Gold, right, perfect opponent, perfect way laid out.

976
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: It just kind of makes me want to say, okay,

977
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: is the best way to get great entertainment from him?

978
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: Putting him in in a you know, d La Hoya

979
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: versus patio type matchup. Put him in one where it's like,

980
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, he either he succumbs to the speed and

981
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: technique of a smaller in their prime guy, or he

982
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: overwhelms them with strength. It's an interest. I don't know

983
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: that's interesting theater.

984
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: Look, I get Dan Hendo vibes on this one that

985
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: like all the advantages conferred on him by being at

986
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: heavyweight with somewhat be taken away when you fight a

987
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: guy like Musasi, But I think most I think a

988
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: lot of people would like it. I'll put it that way.

989
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: All right, give me a couple of matchups that would

990
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: move you, because you know I'm gonna say Anderson Silva.

991
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: You know that's you know, you know.

992
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: Silva for Shure if the price stack could be afforded.

993
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: I like a JDS fight. I think at this stage

994
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: that makes sense. A Verdom rematch. I like, dude, they

995
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: could do Josh Barnett. I think that would be a

996
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: good fight. Honestly, I was surprised Josh Barnett didn't get

997
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the call to begin with, to be honest with you,

998
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think those are all And dude, Josh Barnett,

999
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: isn't he under fucking built towards roster like you know,

1000
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: if he's not fighting Fadal or who's I just don't

1001
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: understand what's happening there. So that's that's why I would go.

1002
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: With if they brought back Big Fittsilva for a rematch,

1003
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: that would be uh, he shouldn't be he should that

1004
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: would be promotional. Uh what do you call that?

1005
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Practice? No practice? Yeah? Yeah, all right, let's go to

1006
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: number four here, BC before we get to the boxing

1007
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: side of things. Here, we did have these two cards.

1008
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: We had the Belitor card of course early on Saturday afternoonish,

1009
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: and then we had UFC Broun the same time. Actually,

1010
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: they're both pretty early. Give me somebody else on either

1011
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: card that stood out to you.

1012
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: Luke, this fella anatotally Tokov, the Belator middleweight who fought

1013
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: in Russia here.

1014
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: Real real fat ass that guy.

1015
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: Dude, that guy is yokedy shit first of all. But

1016
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: second of all, Luke, he's got a ridiculously good record

1017
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: and was he the one who had visa issues which

1018
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: has prevented him in the past from fighting globally. I'm

1019
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: not sure if I've got that correctly, but he went

1020
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: in there against countryman and former training partner Sharoff Dave

1021
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: Lote Muradov, Damn, I nailed that, Luke. You know, sometimes

1022
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: you gotta just you know, sometimes you got to celebrate

1023
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: the small victories, right And Luke, dude, he looks like

1024
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: a title contender, right frickin' now. I know it ended

1025
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: up being what like a weird split decision that didn't

1026
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: make a ton of sense to be but uh, I

1027
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: thought he dominated. His wrestling is aggressive as shit, the

1028
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: trip takedowns, the body, the clean punching. It's sort of like,

1029
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: where's he been all my life? Luke, where's he been

1030
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: all my life?

1031
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: He looked good. He is obviously yoked as shit. I

1032
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: couldn't believe how in shape he was. I did not.

1033
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: I thought he was very good very early. I thought

1034
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: by the third round it was a little bit you know,

1035
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: I want to call it a donk fest. That's not fair.

1036
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: The fight didn't get better as it went longer. How

1037
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: about that? Is that fair?

1038
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: Do you? I mean? Do you do you put him

1039
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: in the same skill set though, as like the Austin

1040
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: Vanderferts who has next at Musasi's Middleway title.

1041
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do. I think he is capable of

1042
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: beating very good fighters. In that division in that organization. Yes,

1043
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with your overall sentiment that Tokov

1044
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: is a revelation for sure, but I didn't think the

1045
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: fight was like super exceptional.

1046
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: That makes sense, Okay, that's fair, Luca. Either way, you know,

1047
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: we gotta give Scott Cooker this credit, man. Is he

1048
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: finded gems from the smesh factory and putting them in

1049
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: positions where they can shine themselves up. And I love

1050
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: where that's going. The other quick shout out, lukecause I

1051
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: don't want to forget it is I gotta get Bruce

1052
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: Lee Roy Alex Caceras a ton of credit for that

1053
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: featherweight whin Luke five in a row in this one,

1054
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: he took damage early against Song wou Choi, and it

1055
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: was the point takeaway from Jason Herzog that was big.

1056
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: Not for the scoring in the end because it was

1057
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: a submission, but it gave Alex Caseris a lot of

1058
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: time to recover, and I thought that was fair from

1059
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: the referee in that spot. Maybe you could say the

1060
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: combination of the length of time and the point being

1061
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: taken away is strict, but he did warn him earlier

1062
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: and when Cassras realized, Okay, I gotta go. Now he went,

1063
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: and dude, that's a he's look. He was a he

1064
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: was like a gatekeeper slash fun name, and now he's

1065
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: turning that corner back into real fighter.

1066
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: This was a good performance in the end. Five in

1067
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: a row at UFC level is hard to argue with

1068
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: other than he's not been fighting the very best that

1069
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: UFC has to offer. But he is slowly but surely

1070
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: making a lot less mistakes about his own skill set,

1071
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: when to go, when to break, where to put the fight.

1072
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: He's just making better decisions, I guess, is what I

1073
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: would say, and that's typically the mark of fight IQ

1074
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: and some guys picking up quickly, some guys takes a

1075
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 1: little bit longer. But it seems like he's finally coming

1076
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: around and he's showing a better demonstration of what he's

1077
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: capable of. I still have managed expectations about how far

1078
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: that actually goes, but you got to give credit where

1079
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: credit to due. Five wins in a row, including this

1080
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: one by finish.

1081
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sold. Hand you that I'm not fully sold.

1082
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: He did get dropped and he got you know, lit

1083
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: up by some other punches, but that I mean, I

1084
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: don't know the way he put that together. You're sort

1085
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: of like, Okay, let's le prove it now, prove it

1086
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: all night.

1087
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, and well, by the way, I

1088
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: want to give a shot out on extra credit. We'll

1089
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: go over some of these in a little bit greater

1090
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: detail after this podcast is over. I'll go with Sayid

1091
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: Soma BC, who didn't blow me away by any stretch

1092
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: of the imagination. I didn't come out of thinking like,

1093
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's the next world beater, but I

1094
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: was kind of impressed by what he was able to do.

1095
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: He had a very tentative first round, no doubt about him.

1096
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: By the second round he found that lead calf kick

1097
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: and he was tearing Minnikov up by it. I agreed

1098
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: with Big John's scorecard, who had first round for minnicauf's

1099
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: second round for Soma. Now, unfortunately we didn't get the

1100
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: conclusion of the third round because the finger of Minnicov

1101
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: got dislocated, and by the time he popped it back

1102
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: in it was it was too late or whatever had

1103
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: happened to it. But dude, by the third round, you

1104
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: could make a case that Soma was winning that fight

1105
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: maybe and was on his way to beating Minikov, not

1106
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: in the most Again, it wasn't super amazingly detailed, but

1107
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: he knew when to press the gas, when to press

1108
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: the brakes. He found that calfkick, he went back to it.

1109
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: His movement was good. He was smaller for the weight class,

1110
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: but nimble as well. I still think he's got a

1111
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: lot of experience that he needs. But as they were

1112
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: saying on the broadcast, you know, there's hard to find

1113
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: guys who we're going to travel to Moscow to fight Minnikoff,

1114
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: and he was up for it again the win. Maybe

1115
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: you could run this fight back and to be a

1116
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: little bit different if the if the finger doesn't pop

1117
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: out the next time. But I don't know there was

1118
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: enough there from him, given what he's already showed and

1119
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: what he showed here for me to say this guy

1120
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: can keep going. He's got work to do. There might

1121
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: be something there was say you so, mum, I was.

1122
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised by this.

1123
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: There might be. There might be. It's hard because you

1124
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: know the whole question of Okay, the finger was broken

1125
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 2: and kind of dislodged, but they wanted to just kind

1126
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: of stick it back in and keep fighting. Should he

1127
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: be a loud or should that be an instant stoppage

1128
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: and a TKO defeat? In this case, you know they

1129
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: want the safer route. But I feel like Minikov was

1130
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: gonna win a close decision and he looked rusty, but

1131
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: you know, for being two years off, Minnikoff still can

1132
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: get people the hell out of there. I think what

1133
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: Soma showed was collectively toughness to not get sent to hell.

1134
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: But but really it's a great fighter. IQ. Now, look,

1135
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: he's really he's really got like white belts striking. He's

1136
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: got to really step into that and improve. But he

1137
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: used his striking smartly to be credible enough to set

1138
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: up what he was doing with the kicks and the

1139
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: threat of bringing it to the ground. So overall it

1140
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: was sort of like, Okay, it kind of stole this win,

1141
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: but it does show that you're going in the right direction.

1142
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: So it was a ballsy effort. It was a sneaky win. Luke,

1143
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if that fu I should have been stopped.

1144
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: What about you?

1145
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's just the rules. But here's

1146
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: my point. At heavyweight, he's twenty nine, so like am

1147
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: I saying, he's great. Now, No, I'm not saying that.

1148
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: But at twenty nine, if you can muster your skills

1149
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: enough to have that kind of performance against that kind

1150
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: of an opponent, let's give this guy a few years

1151
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: and see where things go. He actually might turn out

1152
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: to be something kind of interesting. Work in progress is

1153
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: what I'm describing him as. Very much work. But I

1154
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I saw a little bit there. I was like, Okay,

1155
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: you've definitely beat my expectations for this one, and they weren't.

1156
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: They weren't so low before. This was an interesting performance

1157
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: for sure, Yes.

1158
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: Lue, what about the damn stoppage?

1159
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean, it's the rules. Are the rules? Right? Like?

1160
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: Have you ever dislocated your finger or toe?

1161
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I get like we've seen people fight through

1162
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: certain breaks to their hand or to their arm. I

1163
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: get if a guy's arm is dangling, stop that shit.

1164
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: But on a lower level break slash injury, do you

1165
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: feel fighters should be allowed to fight through that? What

1166
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: do you think in terms of morality and ethics and

1167
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: all that.

1168
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: I think that if you can weasele it through, you

1169
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: should be able to So I forget which fighter was

1170
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: and maybe in the Douglas Lima fight one another ones

1171
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: that ben Askron had. Ben Askron did a pilot once

1172
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: with Nate Quarry. Nate Quarry. After the show we did

1173
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: with Craig Carton Emman Sensored Live, he pitched Spike for

1174
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: a second show where he would go through fighter's film

1175
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: with that fighter, break it down and blah blah blah.

1176
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: I recall there was one moment where one of the

1177
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: toes of ben Askron came out of its proper position,

1178
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: and it was between rounds, So between rounds he was

1179
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: able to pop it back in and then keep going right. Now,

1180
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: that's a little bit fortuitous that it happen that way.

1181
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: So in that case, I don't have a problem with it.

1182
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: I think if your finger pops out and you can

1183
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: quickly adjust it, then it should be fine. But if

1184
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: you're making a fist and you've got one finger going

1185
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: up and you can't fix it and you're constantly adjusting it, dude,

1186
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: the ref has to make a call. You got to

1187
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: make it easy on the refs. You gotta make him

1188
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: go waste. Okay, you're fine, okay, but you have to

1189
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: kind of do it quickly. He couldn't really do it,

1190
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: and eventually I saw him pop it back in. I've

1191
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: dislocated my toe as well. You have to kind of

1192
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: pick it up, rotate it around and let it go

1193
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: and honestly, it literally snaps back into position and then

1194
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: you know it might hurt later in the day, but

1195
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: it's more or less fine. He got to that. He

1196
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: just got to it a little bit too slow. So

1197
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. It's not a uniform rule. But I guess

1198
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't have a major problem. If you can't immediately

1199
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: fix that thing, you.

1200
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I mean I get it. If it's dingling,

1201
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: if it's like this, Luke, Right, if it's like this,

1202
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: then fuck off? Right? Yeah, oh, look real quickly. I

1203
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: think Minikov would send fad Or to a deep dark

1204
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: retirement bed.

1205
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the kind of fight that I would not imagine.

1206
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: Oka Sayid Soma versus Fador it's interesting.

1207
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: Cares, right, I mean Soma is interesting.

1208
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean it is who cares. But it's a style clash, Luke.

1209
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: Nah, dude, put him in there with a fucking name,

1210
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: bro Put him in there with a name, even if

1211
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: it's an older name. Put him in there with a name,

1212
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: all right, last, but not least, we see. I rewatched

1213
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: this fight this morning because I just couldn't believe it.

1214
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about boxing very quickly. There was one big

1215
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: bout over the weekend. It aired on ESPN, and it

1216
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: was sensational. We've been waiting for this guy to kind

1217
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: of show up and show us what we knew was

1218
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: kind of there or thought was kind of there. Well,

1219
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: now we know it's there, and there's just no denying it.

1220
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: Chaquare Stevenson beat the breaks off Jimmel Herring. I'm not

1221
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: sure if he won a round. That jab was pumping

1222
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: from the first round on. Stevenson never was in trouble

1223
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: in the spout. I'm not sure he ever got hit

1224
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: clean except for a couple of jabs. BC. Was this

1225
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: what you have been waiting for from chakor Stevenson?

1226
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, my boy is all grown up, as they

1227
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: used to say, Luke, Wow, Yeah, this is what we've

1228
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: been waiting for. So this is where Okay, Look, when

1229
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 2: Timothy Bradle he makes a public criticism as a pundit,

1230
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: does it have more respect to everyone than like you

1231
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: and I because he's the next fighter. Absolutely, but I

1232
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: like that we respect people like us who have that

1233
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: forum and go after it and say it. And Bradley

1234
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: after that last fight against Jeremiah Nacintila, in which Stevenson

1235
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, faced some of that power and kind of

1236
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: started going the other direction and didn't go for the

1237
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: finish and was happy to just get a boring decision.

1238
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: Tim Bradley came out, He's like, you're not gonna be

1239
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: a star unless you go after it and get it.

1240
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: I love that chaquer Stevenson took that to heart, Luke,

1241
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 2: and that he went back into the lab and was like, yeah,

1242
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 2: I could and should be so much better. And once

1243
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: he crossed that threshold, he still didn't put himself in

1244
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: too many dangerous positions, but he just had the mentality

1245
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: of a finisher. And I didn't even think he was

1246
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: necessarily going for the finish. What I mean by that

1247
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: is I never thought he was actually setting hairing up

1248
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: for the knockout. I just felt like he believed if

1249
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: he comes out there with that posture, he's gonna land

1250
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: so much damage that he's gonna end up stopping heiring anyway.

1251
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 2: And that's what happened.

1252
00:55:59,800 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: Luke.

1253
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: This was such a good performance that I get people

1254
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: going man with the thoroughness and the unexpected just dominance

1255
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: of this. It's very comparative to Floyd Mayweather against Diego Corralis.

1256
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of people saying that I don't

1257
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: love that comparison because as much as I respect Herring

1258
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: and as much as he was respected champion, he's not

1259
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: as good as Corralis was at that time of that loss.

1260
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: But Luke, let me make a different Floyd comparison. This

1261
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: under the book and a lot like Floyd Mayweather versus

1262
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: our Turo Gotti, which was a pay per view that

1263
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: people wanted to talk themselves into thinking it could be competitive,

1264
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 2: and Floyd just mopped the floor with Gotti. Shaker Stevenson

1265
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: mopped the floor with uh with Jamel Herring here, maybe

1266
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: it's that lack of top end power was the only

1267
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: thing that prevented this from being a clean, cleaner and

1268
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: earlier stoppage, and I do think that's real. I think,

1269
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 2: like Floyd Mayweather, the more Shaker Stevenson rises in wait,

1270
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 2: he's gonna always have to overcome that thing that he's

1271
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: not a big puncher. But Luke, he is so damn

1272
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 2: skilled and when he acts the part as the progressor uh,

1273
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: that speed is just sublime. He can get off combinations

1274
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 2: and maybe he shouldn't. And what I love most about

1275
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: this victory top to bottom is he didn't run and

1276
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: circle away and do things that he could have done

1277
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: by default. Even when he had the fight in hand.

1278
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: He fought at close range again like a young pretty

1279
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: boy Floyd. And this was brilliant, absolutely brilliant. I mean,

1280
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: he kicked the shit out of him, Luke. And you

1281
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: don't always see that at the at the super early level.

1282
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: No, this was. It was not very close from the

1283
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: from the first from the first round on, you knew

1284
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: Herring was in trouble. I did the ease with what

1285
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: do you know what blew me away was Stevenson. To

1286
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: your point, he wasn't standing far outside. He was just

1287
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: and I do mean just outside the hooking range of Herring,

1288
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: and he would just constantly get out of the way,

1289
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: and so the punches were always missing or blocked or

1290
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: just barely landing on Stevenson. And meanwhile he was landing

1291
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: with absolute clean authority, over and over, hooking around the

1292
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: gloves of Harring, going to the body. He was backing,

1293
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: hairing up instantly, he was making him circle into traps, dude.

1294
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: This he was just literally he was better everywhere, even

1295
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: on the inside when they fought later in that fight,

1296
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: because it kind of slowed down a little bit after

1297
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: like the seventh or eighth or whatever, and they were

1298
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: kind of fighting on the inside. Even on the inside.

1299
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: That wasn't the best that I thought Stevenson looked, But

1300
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: even there he was doing the better work of the two.

1301
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: Jamel Herring really for the most part, never had a

1302
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: chance in this contest. So it leads me to the

1303
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: second question here, what kind of fight would you want

1304
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: to see next from Stevenson? Is it the one that

1305
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: he suggested for himself? What makes sense at this point?

1306
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: What was the one that he suggested? You saw him

1307
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: awarely Jojo Jojo Diaz, which would be interesting, that would

1308
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: also be a unification fight, I will That's the question

1309
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: is what's next? How quickly do we enter him into

1310
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: that conversation? Luke that I've seen been the only one

1311
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: that has been with those not four kings, but four princes,

1312
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: as Karen mulvaney likes to say, those big four names

1313
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: at lightweight. Is it time for Stevenson, who just became

1314
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: a second champion any divisions now at one thirty to

1315
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: move up to lightweight, to really see how Grady could be.

1316
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Could he be the bridge between making some of these

1317
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: fights between Devin Hainey, Ryan Garcia, Tao Femo Lopez Gravante

1318
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: that we just can't seem to make because of boxing politics.

1319
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, but if Top rank wants to keep

1320
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: him right now at one thirty, Luke the fight to

1321
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: make before and the fight's still to make even bigger

1322
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: than Jojo Diaz is Oscar Valdez who knocked out Miguel

1323
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: Burchell then defended this title under the ped accusations, and

1324
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: look that fight at one thirty is just such a

1325
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: perfect style contrast. I mean, that's gonna be potentially Shakurz

1326
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: like Floyd Mayweather versus Diego Corralis moment where you're in

1327
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: there against a guy who can do some damage to you.

1328
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: Can you go and do the same performance that you

1329
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: did against Jamal Herring against them? I would say it's

1330
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: more likely that Top Rank wants to go in that

1331
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: direction that maybe even Herring does, because Luke I would

1332
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: favor Herring to do some things to Oscarval does, and

1333
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: Oscarval does is great? Right? I'm that high on Shakur.

1334
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: I don't know my question to you right now as

1335
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: we look to the future as more like this, Am

1336
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: I as high as I should be? Should I be higher?

1337
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: Am I too high? Luke? Looking in my eyes? Am

1338
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: I too high? Right now? Do you think Shaker Stevenson

1339
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: could go in there against the elite lightweights right now

1340
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: and swim in that water because of how freaking fast,

1341
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: smart and sublime he is?

1342
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do. I think he is extremely skilled

1343
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: and extremely talented. I do worry about do you know

1344
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: what sized gloves they were wearing? Because they seemed rather large.

1345
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were using for the fight itself.

1346
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: But in either case, do he's just as talented as

1347
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: those guys, if not more? I do worry about the power,

1348
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: and I do worry about a little bit the size

1349
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: at one thirty five for him, about whether that's where

1350
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: he can get his optimal amount of work. I don't.

1351
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: We'll only have to see. But if you're asking me,

1352
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: do I think he is as talented or more talented

1353
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: than some of the four princes? Probably I do think

1354
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: he that he is. I think he is absolutely in

1355
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: that conversation. It's just it's a question of exactly how

1356
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: he would fit with some of the larger size considerations.

1357
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: Here's what's interesting. I don't want to say he's a

1358
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: young Floyd Mayweather because that would take Himo the whole

1359
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: account of Floyd. And I don't think he's a young

1360
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: money Mayweather. No, he'sn't have to prove that move up

1361
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: and weigh and still be the you know, be able

1362
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: to take on these bigger, more dangerous guys and just

1363
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: you know, out thrill and slick them. But he's a

1364
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: he's a southpaw young pretty boy Floyd right now. But Luke,

1365
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: if he's gonna have success at one thirty five one

1366
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: forty seven long range, do you think he's gonna have

1367
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: to rely exclusively on like a Parnell Whittaker defensive based

1368
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: jab style and that's it.

1369
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: Jesus, that's a little hard to say. I mean, I

1370
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: didn't see him as especially defensive in this one.

1371
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: I just don't know. He was like pretty boy. I mean,

1372
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: he brought it, dude, he brought it. But this is

1373
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: one thirty. This is one thirty. I'm talking about up upstairs.

1374
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: It's too I'll say this for me, maybe other people

1375
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: in the boxing community have a better and more nuanced opinion.

1376
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: For me, it's a little too early to tell. I

1377
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: just feel like the way in which he was able

1378
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: to find openings and range, and dude, he did it quickly, right,

1379
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: that was the part. It didn't take him a few

1380
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: rounds to figure herring out. It took him like thirty

1381
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: seconds or maybe a minute or something, and he immediately

1382
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: knew where he needed to be and he just rode

1383
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: that shit out for the rest of the fight for

1384
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: the most part. Again, there's a little bit inside fighting later. Dude,

1385
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: they fit, you can have that kind of range management

1386
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: that quickly. Holy crap, dude, like you're gonna be really

1387
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: good even up a weight class. But the size that

1388
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: could get interesting. For me, that's the part where I

1389
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: just can he hurt a guy at one thirty five

1390
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: in the way he needs to?

1391
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be very interesting when he moves

1392
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: up and when he faces those punchers, and then we'll

1393
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: see who he really is right now though, damn, And

1394
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: I know people say no, you know, from ticket sales

1395
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: to everything, you know, maybe he's not the breakout star

1396
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: they thought he could be. I wouldn't even worry about that.

1397
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: I think he's going to become a star enough on

1398
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: his own just by his ability. But he's still pretty

1399
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: interesting in terms of the other side of it, the

1400
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: commercial side. Just twenty four. I know he's had some

1401
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: outside the ring problems, but he seems to put them

1402
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: behind him. And Luke, you know, he's named after Tupac.

1403
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that could be worse. He's a Southpaw and

1404
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: he's brash on the microphone. Although I did like him

1405
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: Herring Terrence Crawford the whole. You know, they had to

1406
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: put their friendship on hold and pretend they weren't really friends.

1407
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: Everybody's loving again, could you? I mean, Luke him hanging

1408
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: out every day with Bud Crawford. That's like the perfect

1409
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: sort of like apprenticeship to like take over the sport.

1410
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: Right, take over the sports seems a little bit grand.

1411
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: Right on a pound for pound level. I'm telling you,

1412
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: shou Kirs Steven's gonna be the pound for punk king

1413
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: a couple of years, That's what I'm telling you.

1414
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: Look, ok, wow, well that's a bold claim. We'll have

1415
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: to see that shit. But certainly he got the write on.

1416
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: The wall in a prison somewhere. Please, Yes, I want

1417
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: that on the record, on the darkest record.

1418
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: On the record. With that in mind, we no longer

1419
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: ask each other questions. Be see, it's time for the

1420
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: audience to ask his questions. It's time for dms from

1421
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: the dolls.

1422
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: Yew boy, look.

1423
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: At that guy, I mean just the de viv of

1424
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: this guy today. Look at him. I got technicles on

1425
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: my damn hat. All right, here we go from at

1426
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: t CARO thirty nine. Should there be a universal rule

1427
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: for UFC that enforces a fighter to move up a

1428
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: weight class if they missweight more than once automatic? No,

1429
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

1430
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: You know, there's got to be layers to this, Like, yeah,

1431
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: this could be a passionate debate, Luke, but I think

1432
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: there's got to be layers to this discussion. I do like.

1433
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's some way situations that should have

1434
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 2: the ability to be to have an asterisk added. But

1435
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: in general, I love this rule, Luke, and I think

1436
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: there should be a less than too much sort of

1437
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: hook on this. If you consistently can't prove that you

1438
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 2: can't make it go be healthy. Because I got a

1439
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: lot of people saying Luke was this fight so much

1440
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: fun on Saturday because it was at two five, because

1441
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: they didn't have to cut weight as much, because they

1442
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: were allowed to be their natural selves. I got a

1443
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: lot dms asking that I wish I could say their

1444
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: names to give them credit here, But who the hell cares.

1445
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's about the hot take, Luke,

1446
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 2: So uh hot take? What do you got?

1447
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if they did it, it'd be I wouldn't

1448
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: be the end of the world. But like I would

1449
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: want carve outs, like if you miss two in a row,

1450
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: but or not two in a row but too. Let's

1451
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: say you miss wait twice over the course of how

1452
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: many fights, but number one, Like what does that mean?

1453
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: Like what if you've had thirty fights and you missed

1454
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: two times, Like you're supposed to go to a weight class

1455
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: at that point? That seems a little insane, right number one?

1456
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: Number two? What if you took one of those fights

1457
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: on like a week's notice and you just couldn't make weight?

1458
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: Like should that count as well? Like just saying if

1459
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: you miss it more than once, automatically you should go up.

1460
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: I understand the spirit of what they're saying, so I

1461
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: guess I would say is if you could have a

1462
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: more carefully crafted language and carveouts for it. I do

1463
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: agree that if you're just a big motherfucker and you're

1464
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: trying to squeeze into a weight class that's too small

1465
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: for you, and you do it twice, you know it's

1466
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: a short succession. Yeah, in that case, you probably should

1467
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: go up. But I can imagine a number of inarios

1468
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: where just missing it more than once would not be

1469
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: enough good reason to push someone, especially up twenty pounds.

1470
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: Ten pounds is whatever, twenty fucking pounds, that's a lot, man.

1471
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like I used to play wreck basketball in

1472
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: high school Luke, and they had like an A squad

1473
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: and a B squad, and some teams would try to

1474
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: be like cheeky and put really good players on the

1475
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: B squad, And then eventually the other coaches would like

1476
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: get on like a conference call and they'd ban people

1477
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: from the B squad. You know, we may have to

1478
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: ban you from Look, it's interesting this weight debate is

1479
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: it's like the abortion debate. There's so many layers to

1480
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: it. It gets very hairy. I don't want to know your

1481
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: politics or your religion, just in case you were wondering.

1482
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: At nosebleed seating, how would you rank Jason Herzog among

1483
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: current active referees.

1484
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: Dude, didn't he just take make a leap yesterday or Saturday?

1485
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: He kind of made a leap, Luke.

1486
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: He's been good for a long time. Beltsar, he was funny.

1487
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: Beltar used him long before UFC ever really called him

1488
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: up all that often. I think UFC got wise to

1489
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: the fact that he's very good. He's among the best,

1490
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: if not the best. I think Jason Herzog is great.

1491
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 2: Markazi was covering a a UFC like referee training story

1492
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: for ESPN a couple of years back, and uh, Jason

1493
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: Herzog was there and like, or I'm not shot us

1494
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 2: went to the mat to roll and like they were

1495
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: showing him some things and Herzog broke his rib Dude

1496
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: broke Yeah, that's no nonsense right there? All right, I

1497
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 2: don't know.

1498
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was someone else. Did someone else

1499
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: break the ribb and write the story and then Arash

1500
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: took that and wrote it or that.

1501
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm not accepting that. It's my friend, I'm not

1502
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: accepting that those words right now. I'm sorry, all right,

1503
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to stay okay, I will wow, all right.

1504
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he smells like women in hooch though,

1505
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: like like uh like the real no nonsense, but yes,

1506
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: Luke Herzog operating well. Okay, let's right now. Who's the

1507
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: Who's the guy? It's been Herb Dean for a long time.

1508
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: I thought Mark Goddard has entered into that conversation for lately.

1509
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: Who's the pomp for pound, best of the moment, the

1510
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: guy you feel most trusted with in a super big

1511
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 2: UFC pay per viewmain the probably?

1512
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: Probably? I think Bell Trann is pretty good.

1513
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: So has our guy ever recovered from the weed in

1514
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: the jail time? What's our guy's name?

1515
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: The guy from uh Rosenthal.

1516
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, from Lesnar Carwin.

1517
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 1: He did a man, I've been trying. I've been trying

1518
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: to get an interview with him for years. He just

1519
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: no sells it every time. I saw him back after

1520
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: a while, but then I haven't seen him since.

1521
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been a while. Like I want

1522
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: to put him in there because I respect his game

1523
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: when he's at his best, but I haven't seen him

1524
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: in a while. I don't think Mike Beltrend's there he's

1525
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: getting better. I don't think he's there yet. I don't

1526
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 2: mean to turn this as a referendum of who's good

1527
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 2: or who's bad. But yes, Jason hurzug very good.

1528
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: Very good. All right? From at Travis dot Whitney sixty nine. Luke,

1529
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: how did you enjoy the rugby over the weekend? How

1530
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: about the Hawka? Dude, the rugby was great. I mean,

1531
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: especially if you were a fan of the New Zealand team.

1532
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, they beat the fuck out of the Americans.

1533
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't even close, but dude, it was great. Man.

1534
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, listen, I'm not one of these guys

1535
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: like you should like rugby more than American football. I

1536
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 1: like American football better because well I'm the Maria. But

1537
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: but dude, rugby's a fucking sweet ass game. People ask

1538
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: me why I watch it because this fun as shit.

1539
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: And here's the other part, Like this was the eight

1540
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: well started out as the a squad of the All Blacks.

1541
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: They don't come to the United States all that often, Like,

1542
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: you don't get to see this high level of version

1543
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: of the game in front of you very often. Although

1544
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: my dad complained about the per person one hundred and

1545
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: fifty dollars seats that I purchased, which you know, I

1546
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: was just overjoyed to hear his complaints. Let me assure you.

1547
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'm like, are you out of

1548
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: your fucking mind? I asked him. I was like, what

1549
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: did you think about the Hawke after we watched it?

1550
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, it's pretty far away, probably better

1551
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: to watch on TV. I'm like, you know what I'd.

1552
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: Love to do with MK Kramer's rolling is put you

1553
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: and your dad in the same room. But have it

1554
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: been like one of those from a movie police interrogation

1555
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: rooms right where they were like, we're watching behind the

1556
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: glass with the cameras and then we'll play Catching the

1557
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: Cradle by Harry Chapin and then just film both of you,

1558
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: like will you break down and I'll get the end?

1559
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: Or will you just like or we just be like

1560
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: a total standoff of like I hate you.

1561
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: No, I don't hate my father, but I just didn't

1562
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: have a great weekend after he complained about everything that

1563
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: we did. And we did it for him because my

1564
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: dad played rugby in college and then a little while

1565
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: after it, and so he loves it. He loves it

1566
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: and so you know, you cold get a chance to

1567
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: watch the Americans. This was like a World Cup qualify too,

1568
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: I think, or something pretty close. Anyway, you don't get

1569
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: a chance to watch this version of the All Blacks

1570
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: play in full on rugby, not like you know rugby

1571
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: seven's and they beat the absolute fuck out of us.

1572
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed it. And I told you before

1573
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: the show, the kiwis there was do I get? I

1574
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: got this is a bit of a big deal because

1575
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: we saw like license plates from like Montreal, California, Alaska.

1576
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: There were kiwis from all over the country who were

1577
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: here trying to watch this game. They were the majority

1578
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: of the supporters there by far, and they were all

1579
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: very friendly. They were not a rowdy bunch whatsoever. They were.

1580
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: They were celebratory, but not rowdy. And then when I

1581
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: posted some of the videos or whatever from the weekend,

1582
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of them dm me and they were all

1583
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: so friendly, so kind. I would go back in an

1584
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: instant if they were over here. Again. I really enjoyed it,

1585
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: So shouts to everyone who made it.

1586
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes that sounds like a great event actually, And.

1587
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: I met some MK fans as well. I got recognized

1588
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: and when I was.

1589
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: There, oh shit, I was just gonna put a button

1590
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 2: Luke on the other conversation and say, sometimes the lane

1591
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: to get Dad's attention is not the road you want

1592
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: to go. But I'll help you with this. What about

1593
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: next week in Las Vegas for the Canelo fight? You

1594
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: and I. First we stop at high Rollers. We try,

1595
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: you know, sample the gimmick support. The guys say hey,

1596
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: any any jujuts experts want to just come with us.

1597
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: We got a quick check in on this rental property

1598
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: guy not paying his rent on time or whatever. And Luke,

1599
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: we go in there with the high Rollers crew and

1600
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: they take that renter. They take them right down and

1601
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: stretch him. Luke, and then we get like a video

1602
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: of the renter, like you know, tapping out. And I'll

1603
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: never mispay my rent again. Mister Thomas, Dude, your dad

1604
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: would be so fucking proud of you. I mean, we

1605
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: should do this, Dude.

1606
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: No, he wouldn't. He would call the cops on me first.

1607
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: But also it's not it's not residential, it's commercial property

1608
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: that someone has failed to pay. There.

1609
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: We could probably beat up a janitor at least.

1610
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, sir, you have to get this. It's

1611
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: just I need my dad to love me. Okay from

1612
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: this is a stupid question from Jose Young's I mean,

1613
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: why did they why did the team even select this?

1614
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 1: It's not even a good zing not cool, not cool. Yeah,

1615
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: why does Luke use gloves to lift weight? It's ha ha.

1616
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: Of course I don't I like Jose Young's but this

1617
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: question sucks balls move.

1618
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: Do you think Jose Young's is is you know, has

1619
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: as good a win loss record as his handsy as

1620
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 2: Mike Bone He probably should be.

1621
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, But Mike Boner has like

1622
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, he sort of zombie walked into a few opportunities.

1623
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: He it was outside of his weight closse.

1624
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: If youngs looks himself in the mirror at the end

1625
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: of the day and says, I'm lett I'm letting Mike

1626
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: Bone like you know out here, you know, he's stealing

1627
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: everything I work for and like wakes up to this,

1628
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: he could probably go on and Uncle Pepe like run

1629
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: like sort of like when Manny Ramirez joined the Dodgers

1630
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: and hit like nine hundred for that shred. I could

1631
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: see that happening.

1632
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: Nom gives them too much work to party all right

1633
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: from at dB underscore Scott Underscore. Al On, Now, this

1634
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: question is good. What are your favorite Halloween candies? All right, give.

1635
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: Me making news on this, Luke. Okay, normally, what's my

1636
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 2: favorite Halloween candy? I'm a chocolate and peanut butter guy,

1637
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: so you know, as basic as peanut buttercups, or if

1638
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 2: you can go next level and go with the uh,

1639
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: what's the damn one that Hershey makes? The uh, the

1640
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: chocolate and peanut butter, the best candy bar in the world.

1641
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: What's it called, Luke? The damn uh Snickers? No, the

1642
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: one with the chocolate and the peanut but it's that

1643
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: orange wrapper. Oh yeah, yeah, what's that one? I said, Hurshey,

1644
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: I'm at Reese's.

1645
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: What's that one that they So there's Reese's Pieces, but

1646
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: then there's Reese's peanut butter cups.

1647
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: No, No, the damn the damn bar, Luke, the chocolate

1648
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 2: bar with the peanut butter and the chocolate that Reeses makes.

1649
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 2: It's an orange package and it's the best candy bar

1650
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: of all time. You know the one I'm talking about?

1651
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't actually so good.

1652
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: I can't remember what.

1653
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: You might call it. Is it what you might call it?

1654
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: No, Luke, it's not. It's not is driving me crazy here?

1655
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: But what's it called the fast break? Fast break?

1656
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 3: Oh?

1657
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: I have had fast break? Yes, yes, so.

1658
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: That ship's the absolute best. But let me tell you this, Luke.

1659
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: I ran out over to the Walgreens yesterday to get

1660
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: some candy for the family to for some like movie

1661
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: watching and survivor watching as a family, you know, good

1662
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 2: wholesome shit. And uh, to the dismay of my family,

1663
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: I bought the new you know candy corns made by

1664
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: that company, Brox, you know, like the best, like it's

1665
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: candic corn ship, but it's the best version comes from them,

1666
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: the highest end.

1667
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: They go ahead.

1668
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's crack cocaine, right, they have the

1669
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 2: ultimate crack cocaine. Brox now has Thanksgiving Dinner flavored candy corn,

1670
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,799
Speaker 2: which basically means that every single one has a different flavor.

1671
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: Some taste like vegetables, some taste like meat, some taste

1672
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: like ice cream, some taste like you know, apple saw

1673
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 2: Like it's it's dude across the board. It's the most bizarre.

1674
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: There's like there's a party in your mouth. You just

1675
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: don't know if you invited those people. It's sort of

1676
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: like the party in Weird Science, but those guys come on,

1677
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: like the motorcycles. Just shit, how do we get these

1678
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 2: guys out of our fucking house? You know what I mean? Like,

1679
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: that's what it's like in your mouth. Yeah, at the

1680
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: end of it, you're like, I know I shouldn't be here.

1681
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: It's sort of like you know, I'm gonna catch an

1682
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 2: std hopefully just herpies, right, hopefully, Like I can keep

1683
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: going on if it's just that, right, That's what it's

1684
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 2: like eating this, Luke. It is it is whoever whatever

1685
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: chemists came up with this crack shit that's gonna kill us.

1686
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: It is some thoughtful, next level thinking. Okay, this is

1687
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: like Willy Wonka shit.

1688
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 1: Right, what what candies do you not like? For Halloween?

1689
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: Bro? You cannot no sell that story and not react

1690
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: to it. Would you be willing to try this year?

1691
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: It's a whole damn meal they got.

1692
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: I would try it? Sounds like ass.

1693
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: Violence?

1694
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: Would I would try it?

1695
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: All right? All right? Go ahead ask your question, Luke,

1696
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 2: What do you.

1697
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: Got know what I'm saying? What are the ones when

1698
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: you sort it? Are you like trash?

1699
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Baby Ruth, butterfinger to mere trash.

1700
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are a fucking Osama bin Camp.

1701
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: Well you are so wrong about that. What else?

1702
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: So I like some bad shit, like I like Mounds

1703
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,919
Speaker 2: and Almonjoy although they were made in my town growing.

1704
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: How do you like Mounds and Almondjoy more than Baby

1705
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:11,480
Speaker 1: Ruth and Butterfingers?

1706
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1707
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: Any sense I like?

1708
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 3: Uh?

1709
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: I yeah? Like a like a like if you got

1710
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 2: like a frozen Mary Jane from an old lady. Those

1711
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 2: actually those actually turn out well in the end, Luke,

1712
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: what do I throw out? Will I throw out the

1713
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 2: popcorn ball? First of all, well, look, dude, butterfingers gross,

1714
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta get rid of that right away.

1715
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay, butterfingers great, But okay.

1716
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I'm not throwing out too much.

1717
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: Else what do you not like?

1718
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: Luke? All Right? I mean, I'm not the guy. I'm

1719
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: not gonna go to the mat for it. I don't

1720
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: like love it, But I don't hate candy corn like

1721
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: other people hate candy corn. Like everyone's like, Oh, I

1722
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: love candy corn like bitch, it's pure sugar. What is

1723
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: there not to like? Like? Shut the fuck?

1724
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: Up.

1725
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: You obviously like it. You're just doing a bit so

1726
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: number one. There's that number two Reese's. This is your

1727
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: apex predator. Every time, either Reese's Pieces or the Peanut Buttercups.

1728
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: Or dude, just do the fast break. Can you put

1729
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: some respect that fast break is?

1730
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: Fast break is great. I love that as well.

1731
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 2: It's like it's a it's a sex bar.

1732
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 1: Luke, Baby Ruth is a fucking home run every single time.

1733
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: I can't believe that. The ones I'm fucking like, I'm

1734
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: not a big.

1735
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 4: Like Spreeze's here's where I was gonna separate you on

1736
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 4: the fruit side in the Spreeze Skittles Starburst category like mam,

1737
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 4: but was like, I am all in on that.

1738
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm not in on like gum drops, jellybeans. Uh, you know,

1739
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: like dots like that kind of bullshit. Get that.

1740
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: I like that, Okay, I'm not as out on it as.

1741
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 2: You, Oh like Good and Fruity or the other guy. No,

1742
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: the Black.

1743
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: Plenty, Yeah, good those people.

1744
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 2: That's that's where I like, I would like that she

1745
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: had a fire Luke Okay.

1746
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: Uh. My old producer Marissa used to hate Reese's Pieces,

1747
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: and I was like dude, how the fuck is that

1748
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: us peanut butter cups? I'm like, how do you not

1749
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: like chocolate and peanut butter? And she's like, I don't

1750
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: like peanut butter. I'm like, right, you're you deserve to

1751
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: go to Guantanamo Bay for that take. I just want

1752
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: to be very clear about that. I do like Starbus,

1753
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: I do like Skittles, but if I'm gonna get skittles

1754
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: for Halloween, I want the exotically flavored kind.

1755
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: I always want the exactly favored. You know, that tropic

1756
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a wild berry guy, but that tropical

1757
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: bag has been underrated for years. Your warheads are decent

1758
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: core dog Corey Mniche driving in here with a You know,

1759
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm down for that ship.

1760
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: More heads are asked, They're not that good. I don't

1761
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: like that.

1762
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 2: I forgot what hilarious question I was going to ask

1763
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: you sure it would have set the house on fire? Look,

1764
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 2: I forgot that ship.

1765
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of pixie sticks. Remember pixie sticks.

1766
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: I always hated pixie sticks. They're kind of gross. I mean,

1767
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: that's just a straw full of sugar.

1768
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at that point, you got to put

1769
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: that rubber thing around your thing and just just mainline

1770
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: that ship at that point.

1771
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: No, i'm a I'm a where you want Hershey's Kisses.

1772
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: I like Hershey's Kisses for Christmas.

1773
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: You know they are so underrated in reality, we think

1774
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 2: of them as a throwaway one. But like when that's

1775
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 2: your only option, those can still slay. Okay, so keep that.

1776
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: This is this is what I want. This is this

1777
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: is why I want to kill my old producer. She

1778
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: thought York peppermint patties were better tasting than Reese's peanut

1779
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 1: butter cups, which because.

1780
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 2: She's wrong, but women love that mint stuff. They love it, Luke. Okay,

1781
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: they got to understand that about them.

1782
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, okay, all.

1783
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 2: Right, final thing on this. You know the Mars but uh,

1784
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: dark Milky Way is that? Yeah? No, the Dark Milky

1785
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 2: Way is insanely great. No one wants to talk about that.

1786
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: It tastes like balls. And Three Musketeers is also ship

1787
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: as well.

1788
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, no, no, no, Three musket put some

1789
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: twigs and three Musketeers are still still all stars.

1790
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: Twicks, I'm okay with twicks. I'm okay with three Musketeers

1791
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: as feces.

1792
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: No, that's it's that's a hard that's a bad take.

1793
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: That's like if.

1794
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: You go to someone's house and they give you three musketeers,

1795
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: they basically just shat in your line.

1796
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: Not true, No, not true, Luke. Like I get it's

1797
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: an aging superstar, but this is like, you know you're

1798
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 2: not taking this. No, this is gaffle likes Hershey's with

1799
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 2: nuts in them. Okay, that's what I've been told. Yeah,

1800
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't mess around with those nuts. You know, I'm

1801
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: not against nuts. They just don't belong in chocolate, you know,

1802
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: if they don't need to be.

1803
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: Also, all you people with peanut allergies, I want you

1804
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: to know I look down on you. I just think

1805
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: that you're I just think that you're infirm and weak. Wow,

1806
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: all right, it's like, oh I can't have nuts. I mean,

1807
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: why are you? I disagree with you should just go live.

1808
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: You should live in the Costa Rican jungle somewhere.

1809
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: Look, it's their, Look, it's not their it's not their fault.

1810
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 2: Like okay, just like you and will hunting, Luke, it's

1811
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: not your fault, all right.

1812
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: Uh okay. And then that I think is it for

1813
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: dms with dogs, which means it's time for your ship.

1814
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: Every week what we do is we get the really

1815
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 2: funny videos and we play them for you on Mondays.

1816
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: It's called have you seen this ship?

1817
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

1818
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 2: Oh god? Look. We scoured the globe in these parts

1819
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 2: for all kinds of fighting ship and beyond, and we

1820
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: went to the UFC Fight night in Las Vegas. Luke,

1821
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: middleweights Gregory Rodriguez and Young Young Park put on a

1822
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,440
Speaker 2: fight of a year contender. Bro this was sloppy and beautiful.

1823
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: It's not all. There's that uppercat. You knew that one

1824
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 1: was going to close the ship.

1825
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: Jesus Rodriguez a man's man to win that, Luke, but

1826
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: he didn't bring a dime of defense with him. That

1827
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: was a fun, old school sort of like f it,

1828
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 2: let's go for it type of fight.

1829
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: He went for it. Damn all right, Luke.

1830
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: Flyway. Jeff Molina delivering the boom here to daniel Lecerda

1831
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: early on in the cart. If we still have it there,

1832
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: it is all right. Oh apparently we missed it, so

1833
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: we'll maybe catch.

1834
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: The replay, Luke, this part's fun.

1835
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, this is great. All right, Maybe we

1836
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 2: don't see it at all.

1837
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're trying to.

1838
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: Take that home. Yep, that's gonna hurt, all right, Luke,

1839
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: Let's go over to women's Strawway Random Marcos got a

1840
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: much needed win here with the under five hundred record.

1841
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: But how about this running head butt attempt Onlivia Renata Susa? Luke,

1842
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: is this legal?

1843
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: Hen Nata?

1844
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh? God, Lord.

1845
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: Jesus Broy. I'm surprised you didn't get countered running in

1846
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: running her down like that, but I guess Susa wasn't it. Wow?

1847
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: That is that is something right there. Let's go to

1848
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: Belchor two six ' nine in Moscow. On the undercard,

1849
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: they call this guy, baby Fador, your boy Carrill sidel

1850
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: Nikoff taking rab Trusdale to TKO one territory.

1851
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, you know he's been up and down. He

1852
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: didn't quite pan out to be the guy that we

1853
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be the next fad Or,

1854
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, he's big and chubby and got

1855
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: a nice hammering win there.

1856
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: All right. Women's flyweight action Catterzina Sadura getting the TKO

1857
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 2: two hair against Darna Mazuk and look at the slam

1858
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: to set it up, Luke.

1859
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she leaves her own feet so that she crashes

1860
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: on top, which hurts like a motherfucker.

1861
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like some ww shit right there. Wow, okay, hey,

1862
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 2: Risen Rise in Time in Japan Rising thirty one. Look

1863
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 2: do you know about this Rakudo Yamada soccer kick ko.

1864
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 2: That's vicious shit.

1865
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I was gonna talk about this, but you

1866
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: kind of stole my thunder. But that's okay because this

1867
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: is the highlight is better. That was a fucking super.

1868
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: Vicious Damn, dude, damn.

1869
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean I play in Rise and they got some

1870
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: I love their rules.

1871
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could. Could you want this in the UFC?

1872
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 2: You can't really want.

1873
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: That, not necessarily. It's like, dude, we don't. Here's the

1874
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: thing I don't understand for people sometimes not saying you

1875
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 1: per se. I'm just saying, like, dude, I don't need

1876
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: every promotion to have the same rules. I might need

1877
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: every territory to kind of have the same rules, or

1878
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: there needs to be some sort of designated rule systems

1879
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: that once you have that system and other people use it,

1880
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: they don't tinker with it. But like, I like the

1881
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: fact that there's a ring in Rise, and I like

1882
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: the fact that that one does things a little bit differently.

1883
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: I like the unified rules too, I like them all,

1884
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: but I don't want the same kind of MMA everywhere.

1885
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: Let's let's vary it up a little bit.

1886
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: Sound like a guy perfectly ready for Thanksgiving candy corn, Luke,

1887
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you eat that on.

1888
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: Their candy corn?

1889
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: Is the shit that it's an addicted That's just addiction

1890
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: right there? All right, let's go to the regional on

1891
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 2: MA see, Luke. They say anything can happen here, including

1892
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 2: a five second finish that has the internet.

1893
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: Oh well, this guy had it coming. I mean Lake, okay,

1894
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 1: good night.

1895
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got to put your hands up. Wow,

1896
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: that's just.

1897
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: Who Yeah, maybe don't leg kick someone off the glove touch.

1898
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, justice is best served in a dimly lit gymnasium

1899
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: on the regional level. Yes, it is all right, Luke

1900
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: x emin.

1901
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: Probably that was probably an amateur fight that he lost

1902
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: for free. He got brain damage for free.

1903
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: Probably, Luke at x MMA three in Miami over the

1904
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 2: weekend we saw former names fall hard. How about former

1905
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: beltor champ Daniel Strauss getting all kinds of tuned up

1906
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 2: by Keith Richardson.

1907
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna go over this one too, So

1908
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: you stole my thunder. But that's okay. Well, it's okay

1909
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: because you have the highlights.

1910
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: Actually better this way, I've been steeling twenty nineteen, Luke,

1911
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 2: all right.

1912
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: Well, Strauss had a series of legal problems that I'm

1913
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: not sure if they've been resolved or not, but it

1914
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: has kept him from consistent training and injuries as well

1915
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: for some time. And you know, clearly he probably wasn't

1916
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: in the best shape or whatever. And this kid's probably

1917
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: pretty good too, But Strauss is hard to beat, and

1918
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: if someone beat him like this, I'm guessing he's a

1919
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,839
Speaker 1: diminished version of himself. Yeah.

1920
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 2: Sadly that wasn't the only thing happening in this card, Luke.

1921
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Former Strikeforce champion Nate Mark Quart showing up and that

1922
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: ended quickly a t KO two against valdeir Arujo. This

1923
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a war.

1924
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: Though, Luke. See he's stand switched with the bodykick before

1925
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: into a left handed stand switch and then uh just

1926
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: landed right up the middle there. I'm not sure Markquart

1927
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: ever kind of caught up. Look at these hammer fists.

1928
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: Jesus Mark core was, Remember he said he was gonna make

1929
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: a big comeback. I'm like, dude. When he left the UFC,

1930
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: he was don't you remember that's one of the few

1931
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: instances where his coach, Trevor Whitman threw the towel on

1932
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: his behalf was like, I think it was the Kelvin

1933
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Gastolon fight maybe something like that. He was like, you're

1934
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: not responding, you want to keep going? He just forget it,

1935
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: this is over and that was the right call to

1936
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 1: come back.

1937
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 2: He's been real active on the on the UH on

1938
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: the indies, on the regional level, Luke, and he's been

1939
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: winning some. I mean, he's washed, but Luke, that fight

1940
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 2: was so wild, though. Did you see Rougio's face and

1941
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: this was from winning. That's look at those jabs from

1942
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: uh Mark Uhart's elbow when he had top position. Luke

1943
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: just just goh, God.

1944
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: Jesus, how much do you got paid for this? Five K?

1945
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: Ten k?

1946
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: He kind of looks like the bad guy in Ghost

1947
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 2: Willie Lopez.

1948
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: Right, I haven't seen that movie in so long.

1949
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 2: Yo. He took Yo, he took Swayzey Soul. I've in

1950
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: the alley. I mean, of course Swayzey Soul came back

1951
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 2: to haunt everybody else. But yeah, all right, Luke, let's

1952
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 2: go over to Brazil st thirty pre limbs. We had

1953
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 2: some professional pillow fighting. Only Grobacca Hitman could give us

1954
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: this type of art into the world.

1955
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 1: Luke, what the fuck? Yeah? How do you what's in

1956
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: the bags? Is there anything in the bag big enough

1957
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: where you could win?

1958
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I saw a professional fast

1959
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 2: tag on ESPN over the weekend. I guess we got dude.

1960
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: If this only counts if you're in an aisle at

1961
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: Target and it's Black Friday shopping, or if.

1962
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 2: The ladies are dude, I mean, that's that's where this

1963
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: belongs basically.

1964
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: Luke Ray, I mean, yeah, shouldn't you be doing this

1965
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: in like street clothes and like the winner gets the

1966
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: toaster or something. Yeah?

1967
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: You know, all my kids do is watch videos involving

1968
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: where they put people to like, you know, if you

1969
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: if you touch this car, the last person to keep

1970
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 2: touching it wins it, you know what I mean? And

1971
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 2: people like will live there for five days and try

1972
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: to outsmart each other. My kids just love that shit.

1973
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the documentary Hands on a Hard Body?

1974
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,799
Speaker 2: No, I can't watch it's like that in the hoarding

1975
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: shows or the pimple Popper. Well, I can't, I don't want.

1976
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: I watched I also don't watch help. There's a show

1977
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 1: I saw the other day. It was called like because

1978
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: my toes are and my toe nails are just I mean,

1979
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't have toes so much as I just have

1980
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 1: fungus where toes have grown out.

1981
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: There out to jubilia. I think I think I showed.

1982
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: To them once in the years of them, you know,

1983
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: not doing anything about it and getting the military's ruined it.

1984
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: But anyway, there's a documentary called Hands on a Hard Body.

1985
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: This was made in the nineties and it was a

1986
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: deal where you touched a truck. There's a brand new

1987
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: truck at a dealership and you put your hand on it,

1988
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: and the last person to remove their hand, or the

1989
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: last person standing with their hand on it, I should say,

1990
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: wins the truck. And this will go on for days.

1991
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: People will be touching it the truck. And it was

1992
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: a documentary about all of the creatures who try to

1993
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: win a truck via this way. And there was one

1994
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: guy who's claim to being able to do it for

1995
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: hours at a time was having a Snickers and an orange. Anyway,

1996
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: these were not bright people, but the documentary is fucking hilarious.

1997
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: Long story short, these were not our finest Americans, but

1998
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 2: they died for it just the same.

1999
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it wasn't a meeting at Menza, but

2000
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do?

2001
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 2: Pro boxing? Top Rank was in Atlanta for the Stevenson card.

2002
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 2: On the undercard, Luke this Puerto Rican young sensation Xander

2003
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 2: Ziaz getting the opponent's mouthpiece knocket it right out of

2004
01:28:59,000 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: the ring.

2005
01:28:59,320 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: Luke.

2006
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: He looked great.

2007
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: He looked awesome. I mean, you know, he wasn't fighting

2008
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,759
Speaker 1: the stiffest competition, but he looks great. He got signed

2009
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: by Top Rank at sixteen.

2010
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: Yes, he's supposed to be one of their next big things.

2011
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 2: The Chicago need of Antoine Cobb deep on the undercard

2012
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 2: mid his pro debut, Luke with a massive first round KO.

2013
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: Let's see the videotaper. He's sleep Yeah that's oh you

2014
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: look at him talking, yeah, talk that shit. I love that. Luke. Also,

2015
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: son of a legend, Evan holy Field was back on

2016
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 2: this card in one of his you know, four fifth

2017
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 2: sixth pro fight. He went t KO two. Here look

2018
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 2: at look at the fine work from young.

2019
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 1: Evan phone booth fighting.

2020
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just like, oh yeah, look at him, come

2021
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 2: back and put it on him right.

2022
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: There, that left hook. He landed it before and didn't

2023
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: quite sit him down the first time sat him down.

2024
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: Evander loves that shit. Yess yo.

2025
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 5: Holy I got a property and Vegas check on even

2026
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 5: though that's what Yeah, I know this could be me

2027
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 5: and my dad would be like, hey, when this is over,

2028
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 5: can you drive by the property.

2029
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: You know, evict this guy?

2030
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Hey, Rob Thomas, this could be us what you're playing?

2031
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: All right? Oof? Jesus, that was a nice shot. Yeah,

2032
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys would get flattened to this level.

2033
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 1: You'll notice they just stand in the pocket and don't

2034
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: really move and so it becomes a question of who

2035
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:24,799
Speaker 1: lands first.

2036
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 2: But there you go, Luke, I saw this video on

2037
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 2: Friend of the Program Rashad Evans is ig account.

2038
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

2039
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 2: This is Rashad doing knife fighting with an instructor. What

2040
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 2: the hell is going on here.

2041
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: Luke, bro this is this is me julianning that food

2042
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: I eat at dinner and my daughter's trying to take it.

2043
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2044
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I don't know. Listen, let me just

2045
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: say this out loud. I don't know. I know literally

2046
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: jack shit about knife fighting, but I tend to wonder,

2047
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: like our best practices about knife Like how so you

2048
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 1: remember back in the day when you would get like

2049
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: these like oh, I'm going to be a tai Chi

2050
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: master and fight in the UFC, like the first five

2051
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: of them, and they would get the ship me out

2052
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: of them, and you kind of realize that, like that

2053
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: whole thing is totally fraudulent. How fraudulent is knife fighting? Like?

2054
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 1: How real is it? How fraudulent is it?

2055
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: I just I just stabbed. I go for the heart, Luke.

2056
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think about technique, you know, like

2057
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:23,600
Speaker 2: I gotta kill this motherfucker.

2058
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 1: Have you ever butchered an animal?

2059
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: No? No, no no.

2060
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Does that mean you've never butchered an animal before?

2061
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Does that make me less of a man? Luke?

2062
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: To you, dude, there's a bunch of things where it's

2063
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: like it's kind of weird, like you're like, oh, I'm

2064
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: the American Alpha. It's like, I don't know if you

2065
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: can bench press your own weight, You've never fired a firearm,

2066
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: You've never butchered an animal, Like, what have you done?

2067
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 2: Is this your criteria. This is your criteria for for

2068
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: me being a man in your eyes a little.

2069
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying you have to be out

2070
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: there butchering animals like fucking wolverine or something, but you've

2071
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: never done it. You've never skinned a deer.

2072
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: Well, Robin Williams, I have been laid Okay, at least

2073
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 2: I mean at least right.

2074
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 1: All right, I mean you know that's not like the

2075
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: world's biggest accomplishment.

2076
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 2: Uh oh, I'll tell you what.

2077
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: There are some inzels who watched this show, so they're

2078
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 1: probably pretty proud of you.

2079
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 2: This past weekend, I changed a vanity and sink completely,

2080
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 2: you know, took out the old one, put the new

2081
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: one in and at the and also changed a small

2082
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 2: chandelier light and changed another light into the electrical Luke.

2083
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 2: That may sound like what you doing if they're a

2084
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,520
Speaker 2: man's man, but that was a monster accomplishment.

2085
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 1: No, no, no credit where credit is due. That is real

2086
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: handyman ship. That counts.

2087
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 3: That.

2088
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: That's in the in the plus column of like American Alpha.

2089
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: You definitely put a couple of marks on the positive side.

2090
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a couple of like manship things

2091
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: you're supposed to have done that, you know. I mean,

2092
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: clock's ticking, bro, you gotta go. Have you ever hunted? Oh?

2093
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: Hell no, No, I'm not hunting, Luke. I'm not gonna go.

2094
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ye. It's not that I'm against the

2095
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 2: practice of killing an animal so it can be eaten, Luke.

2096
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 2: I just don't want to do killing, you know. I mean, look,

2097
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 2: I got five animals, and you know I'm a I'm

2098
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: an animal weirdo.

2099
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 1: I like animals too, but that's actually a more humane way.

2100
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 2: You know, you're not a real animal lover unless you're

2101
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 2: willing to kill them. Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I don't go.

2102
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: I have been hunting in twenty years. But I'm saying that,

2103
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 1: like that kind of sustainability around animal life is much

2104
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 1: better than the factory life of Oh I look at

2105
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: this bacon that showed up at Harris Teeter and Publix.

2106
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: That bacon that ended up on your plate is almost

2107
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: guaranteed to have lived a horrible, horrible, inhumane life. The

2108
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: deer that you shot probably not, probably had a great

2109
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: life before you took it.

2110
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 2: So that's true. You could say that I've chosen a

2111
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 2: less manly way to feed my family. But Luke, when

2112
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 2: it comes to being a hunter and gatherer in this field,

2113
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,759
Speaker 2: I'm fucking comming. Bro Okay, that's where my knife training

2114
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: comes into into play. Okay, all right, believe that.

2115
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: Do you own a knife that is not used for

2116
01:33:58,600 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: like culinary shit?

2117
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 2: So my dad can't believe that. The So, my dad

2118
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: was one of those guys who had like, you know,

2119
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 2: Florida ceiling tool chests in the garage right to like

2120
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 2: work on everything, right, And he bought me a like

2121
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: the kind of thing you'd buy like an eight year old,

2122
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 2: like a travel like tool set right right, like you know,

2123
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: all all the basic shit. And he was over visiting

2124
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 2: from Florida last year and something small broke and I

2125
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 2: went and I grabbed that kit and I was like,

2126
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 2: you remember this? And he's like, is that please? Something

2127
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 2: that's now you're operating tool set? You know, thirty five

2128
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 2: years later. I'm like, yes, it is. You're damn right,

2129
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 2: it is all right.

2130
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: It's like his dad's like, wait, we're using this kind

2131
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: of wrench you got from an Ikea. Yeah, equipment set

2132
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: that you used to build shelves? Is that it?

2133
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it was funny that's equivalent of eating your

2134
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: dinner in a gas station. It really is, Luke.

2135
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 1: You know it is the last thing I'll say this

2136
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: is I had a friend who I had one friend

2137
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: in college and then afterwards who was like really rich.

2138
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 1: Well that's not true. The girl he married was really rich.

2139
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 1: And so I was his groomsman, and all the groomsmen

2140
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,759
Speaker 1: got like this monogrammed Each one got a monogrammed set

2141
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: of like all these tools and this giant fucking tool bag.

2142
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: And it was so good to this day, I still

2143
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: use it. It was one of the best gifts I've

2144
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: ever gotten.

2145
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 2: So there you go, all right, back to the countdown, Luke,

2146
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 2: we go with this drunk chick hopping barstools comes up next.

2147
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 2: Let's watch closely.

2148
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh this is she white? Yeah she is.

2149
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 2: Oh god, we could have saw that coming. I mean,

2150
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 2: that's just can we go this like? It's just funny?

2151
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, you know what I gotta say. The

2152
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: gusto with which she.

2153
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 2: Tries this, Oh yeah, he's all in this.

2154
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Like American Karen Warrior. You got here going on?

2155
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 2: I bet you do? You think this is pregaming for

2156
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:53,560
Speaker 2: a kid rock concert.

2157
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Luke, No, she was pregaming for like three doors down

2158
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 1: and then somebody who gets mad at liberals for getting vaccines.

2159
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 2: You know, all right with the full profile there. Hey,

2160
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 2: speaking of the worst things on the internet. Remember last

2161
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,560
Speaker 2: week you were like island boys, what the hell's that be?

2162
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 2: See here you go?

2163
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: Look now, help me understand why these two mutants are famous.

2164
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 3: My eyelid By, i'ma just island By. I'm gonna just

2165
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 3: eye land By. I'm gonna get a key white wine.

2166
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna keep dyke gun just standing at the sign.

2167
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm just food gazing. I'm like pool, I'm staying. They're like,

2168
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 3: you wanna leave famous. I'm tryna be out dog guiders.

2169
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna float.

2170
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,759
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I got a real damn topic.

2171
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm like the dumb on the topic on Huh.

2172
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm an ee Limby.

2173
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 3: Put my vest on trying to make it through the

2174
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,560
Speaker 3: tall by my eye Limby, I'm in trying to make it.

2175
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 2: I ain't seen it with the.

2176
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Gang Gangs sign.

2177
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: You ain't just sign no knu the stone through the

2178
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 3: rain because we try God.

2179
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 2: From limb By from the Caribbean. I limb By pull

2180
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 2: my vests.

2181
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Ohia, someone someone make the case that you could watch

2182
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 1: this video and then think everyone should have the right

2183
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: to vote.

2184
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 2: I feel like this is the first offspring for when

2185
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 2: the aliens not only reveal themselves to everybody, but to say, hey,

2186
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 2: we've taken over this you know world now, and then

2187
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 2: you have your first like you know, cross marriages. Luke,

2188
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like this is this is wild.

2189
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean, there's you know, I guess there's I you know,

2190
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: they say crime is up, but somehow these guys have survived.

2191
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: I don't know how.

2192
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 2: Well, look that that that video is taking over the internet.

2193
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 2: That'll be the last time we speak of it. Let's

2194
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 2: keep it moving here. Let's go over to the Balloon

2195
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 2: World Cup. Luke. Remember that game you played with your

2196
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 2: friends growing up when you when you had like no

2197
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 2: toys or money. It's just who can keep this balloon

2198
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 2: from hitting the ground because the floor is lava. Brother,

2199
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 2: They've got a pro league for this now, Luke.

2200
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: Dude, is there anything that's not a sport anymore?

2201
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: Dude? I would own you at this one on one though,

2202
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,600
Speaker 2: if you got if we played in the MK studio.

2203
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, you probably are a little bit more.

2204
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 2: Nimble, Yeah, burn it, get quick and nimble. Yeah, I

2205
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 2: go crazy when I hear a symbol, Luke.

2206
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: I would just I would just take my k bar

2207
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: and pop this fucking thing.

2208
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 2: I don't know why there's a car in there though,

2209
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 2: Like I get everything else, like, these are regular obstacles

2210
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 2: that you have to contend with to win this game.

2211
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 1: Well, you know these these these guys are pro athletes.

2212
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:44,719
Speaker 1: So after this is over, to make money, they actually

2213
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 1: have to wash it and then deliver its off.

2214
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 2: So actually a car wash. Yeah, okay, Uh, let's go

2215
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 2: over to the to the diving board. This is why

2216
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,719
Speaker 2: these aren't legal in most states anymore, Luke. Uh doesn't

2217
01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 2: your insurance rise up when you get a diving board?

2218
01:38:59,479 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 3: Hey? Is he?

2219
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Oh right?

2220
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 2: I mean some people would think that's cruel showing this video, Luke.

2221
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: But it is, well, this is this is I mean, please,

2222
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: dear God, this is what gets me up in the morning.

2223
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 1: I look forward to this video.

2224
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 2: These.

2225
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: You don't have enough gym fails for me. You know,

2226
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: I think you've been slacking on your pimpin when it

2227
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 1: comes to that. But this kind of stuff, watching dumb

2228
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: watching dumb ass Uh. Oh you know what? The only

2229
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: thing that makes this kind of interesting is that it's

2230
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: not an above ground pool. I thought for sure this

2231
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 1: would have been given how fucking stupid this guy is.

2232
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 2: But he's he's still a youth, Luke. Can we can

2233
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 2: we move on? Before you know, uh Fema takes over.

2234
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 2: Somebody reaches out to us and just okay, Luke, let's

2235
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 2: go over to uh this fella, let's just go over

2236
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 2: to Look. I mean, this guy's the best ray.

2237
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: He's much cooler than the island boys.

2238
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 2: Andre Carolinko. Look at this guy's oh man.

2239
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: Ak forty seven, Andre Cairolinko.

2240
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: He has tamed nature, Luke, one shot at a time.

2241
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: I bet he got eaten like a motherfucker. Dude. That

2242
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 1: bear is not expressing sympathies.

2243
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 2: For Yeah, he's gonna wow. Okay, let's go back to

2244
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 2: the drunk chicks. Look you ever see a pool filled

2245
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 2: with beer cans? Oh?

2246
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: A couple of them? Yeah?

2247
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 2: Ever dive in?

2248
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, what are these fucking moron? It's natty light?

2249
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: Oh bit you are god? Wow?

2250
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2251
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 1: You think there's gonna be some craftmatic adjustable fucking mattress

2252
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: you fucking.

2253
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 2: Let's stop the let's stop the fight already that's it. Okay,

2254
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 2: let's go over to uh, you know what true friendship is, Luke,

2255
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: true is Yeah, this these guys are a lot like us.

2256
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 2: Uh you know, it's finding room for your friend on

2257
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 2: a bicycle built for one.

2258
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: Luke. I'll be the fat guy with the pink shirt.

2259
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens here, Oh, getting the getting the ravine,

2260
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: getting the ravine. Yeah, this is how you know, it's

2261
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 1: like Latin America right here, right yeah.

2262
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: I feel like we're playing duck hunt with the eight

2263
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 2: and he s here just yeah, they.

2264
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,879
Speaker 1: Wrote that guy, that guy, he just broke the kickstand.

2265
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 1: And then the dude on front by the way with

2266
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 1: slippers on, see him slides right through the grass.

2267
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: Huh.

2268
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 1: My man just takes a tumble.

2269
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 2: All right. Hey, let's go back to the m M

2270
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 2: A cage Luke. Cage Warriors was on this week. Did

2271
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 2: you see this insane inside scissors kick? Ko?

2272
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 1: So, this is my this is my boy, Justin Barry.

2273
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 1: Do you know this story? No, So, this is Justin Barry.

2274
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: Justin used to live in DC and we trained together

2275
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: for several years. Dude, he's going to be a problem

2276
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: for people. I don't know how far he's going to go.

2277
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how he's trained these days. He's

2278
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 1: out in California with another buddy of mine. Shouts to

2279
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 1: Sunny Mhotep, who is was a great training partner of

2280
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Brian Ortega before his fight with Chancellong Jong. But Sonny

2281
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 1: and Justin both moved to the West coast. Dude, let

2282
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 1: me explain something about Justin Barry. H He's a beast.

2283
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 1: He is a fucking beast. He trains like he's terrible,

2284
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 1: which means it's like he's always in there. And it

2285
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: got to a point after like a year of training together,

2286
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't pass his guard like he is he and

2287
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 1: he would blay blue past all of us, you know,

2288
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: in terms of just how fast he got.

2289
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 2: Did he break your ribs like he was Jason Herzog.

2290
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: No, because he's actually a great training partner and would

2291
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: like take care of people. He'd have mercy on which

2292
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: he would have to have mercy on scrubs like me.

2293
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: But Justin Barry is a bad motherfucker. And if he's

2294
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 1: that was his pro debut and an outside Crescent Kick

2295
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: KO head kick win was his pro debut. Lookout if

2296
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: he is at all good in the way that he

2297
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 1: was when I was training with him. He's gonna hurt

2298
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: people real bad.

2299
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 2: All right. Do you ever is having that move like

2300
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 2: having a fork ball as a major league pitcher or

2301
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 2: is that like gonna be a legit finishing move in Mma?

2302
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 2: No one could do that shit.

2303
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: He probably won't catch it very often, but you'd be surprised. Man,

2304
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 1: let guys go and to the outside. Then you walk

2305
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: on that that kind of an angle, like you know,

2306
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: he didn't get it by accident. And he's also smart too.

2307
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 1: I think he has like a master's degree in computer science. Like, dude,

2308
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 1: Justin's the total package, Like he's.

2309
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 2: Gonna be I mean, why don't you bang him, Luke?

2310
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2311
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: I've tried many times. He has rebuffed me, and I

2312
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: have been an unrequited lover. But no, dude, Like, there's

2313
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: a couple of there's a couple of guys I've trained

2314
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: with along the way. I was like, Dude, these fucking

2315
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 1: guys are hard to do anything against like that very firm.

2316
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Luke, I got too much know.

2317
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Justin Justin was one of the more

2318
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: special guys I've ever had the honor of training.

2319
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 2: With at Hogy Farts on Instagram. Wants to know does

2320
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 2: this mask frighten you at all? Luke? Could this be

2321
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 2: the new clown in the closet that just taunts you

2322
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life? Uh?

2323
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 1: That is a Jesus, that is I'm not one of

2324
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 1: these guys that like dolls are creepy, but that I

2325
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 1: might make an exception for this one. Yeah lord, yeah wow.

2326
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 2: Uh finally, Luke, I wouldn't eat this ship for many reasons.

2327
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 2: How about you? For gash day Fair, they call this

2328
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 2: a shrimp dog? Can we blow it up?

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01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 1: Now? Walk me through the brown sauce? What is that

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01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: is that chili?

2331
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 2: If it's it, probably and if it's any kind of soy,

2332
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 2: you're going in, You're going out. You're going to a place.

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01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not following you there. I'm already not

2334
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 2: going there, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, would you would you eat not just try a bite?

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01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: I would try a bite of almost anything. Would you

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01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 1: eat a full one of these for five dollars cash?

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01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 2: See, I'm one of those people that like, I'm on

2339
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 2: the fence about shrimp like I've had it and it's

2340
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 2: really good. I've also had it and I just feel gross.

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01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, texture wise, I just I don't want to

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01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:39,799
Speaker 2: do this anymore.

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01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 1: Okay, so backup, back up, when you had the shrimp,

2344
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: how did was it prepared that you liked it?

2345
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 2: Probably a lot of like pepper and seasonings and stuff.

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01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I was saying, like grilled or was it in a

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01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: soup or what was it?

2348
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 2: No, it was grilled. It was like you know, in general, SHMP,

2349
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 2: shrimp makes me. It makes me, you know, I have

2350
01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 2: a very small tolerance for it, So I don't think

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01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 2: I could do this in general. Plus, I don't know

2352
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 2: if you've heard my I got a black liver, Luke.

2353
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm really really working hard trying to repair that. But

2354
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 2: everything about this sucks. If you replace those with with

2355
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 2: baked beans, which I've done many times, that's that's a

2356
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 2: that's that's you're going somewhere now, Okay chili? Yeah, yeah,

2357
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 2: hell yeah.

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01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: I would say this. This is obviously disgusting, but at

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01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: least they deveined the shrimp. Do you know about deveining shrimp?

2360
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not into that either. I don't want to

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01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 2: you know, No, No.

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01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: You should devein shrimp. Like if you don't devein shrimp,

2363
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: that's the problem.

2364
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 2: Right, But it's part of the gross factor.

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01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: Luke Okay, Yeah, So for folks who have ever served shrimp,

2366
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: if you go to someone's house and there's a black

2367
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 1: line over the sort of spine of the shrimp, you're

2368
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 1: not gonna get sick eating it, But as literally their feces,

2369
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 1: you might want to cut that part out, which you

2370
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: can see it's cut out.

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01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 2: This is wow, this guy.

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01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 1: I actually like shrimp. I like savich a shrimp, I

2373
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,560
Speaker 1: like grilled shrimp. I like shrimp a lot. But I

2374
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: gotta say, I don't know what's grosser, Like they could

2375
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 1: that dog. It's it's an un That dog looks like

2376
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 1: my dog's hog. Does that make sense? It's too pink

2377
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: for my comfort level.

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01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can. I mean, it's impossible

2379
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 2: that I'd move on from that that dog. That dog's

2380
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 2: hog looks like my dog's hog. Uh yeah, I told

2381
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 2: myself I would never make another birthing room floor joke

2382
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 2: on this show. Looks so I'm gonna stop, all right,

2383
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop.

2384
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it looks uncomfortably like my dog's

2385
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:25,679
Speaker 1: hog when he gets so excited.

2386
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 2: All right, this what a gross episode top to bottom,

2387
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:29,959
Speaker 2: all things considered.

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01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was well. At least we got to see

2389
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: the Island Boys, and I was my faith in democracy

2390
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 1: was restored all right. Time for odds at NSBC What

2391
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: do you got for odds and or ends.

2392
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 2: Also on that top rank undercard, which also gave us

2393
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 2: the young holy Field Evan Holyfield. We had Nico Ali Walsh, yes,

2394
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 2: the grandson of Muhammad Ali back on a short turnaround.

2395
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 2: I think this was a second pro fight and Luke

2396
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 2: he got the finish and got a knockout and he's

2397
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 2: got a little bit of pop for a guy two

2398
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 2: and zero. But I thought Tim Bradley, who's been on

2399
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: fire late in general, is a great Uh.

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01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: He's good.

2401
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean he was on point. And I think, rightfully

2402
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 2: like nagging on this, that Ali just doesn't move his

2403
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 2: head and against forget, you know, an elite guy. I

2404
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 2: guess anybody really with a pulse, he's gonna walk into

2405
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: something soon and this experiment is gonna be all for nothing.

2406
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 2: So it's not like it's not an overwhelmingly bright light

2407
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 2: blinking like you will never be anything but it's a

2408
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 2: major early foundational problem that's not there. So my overall

2409
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 2: problem is this, Luke. Like ESPN Topbry, they kind of

2410
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 2: have something here. I mean, this is one of the

2411
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 2: last remaining bits of bait. You can hang out there

2412
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 2: and get those old Ali fans right to get back

2413
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 2: into boxing one more time. But this guy's just not

2414
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 2: good enough to get the Every fight in my journey

2415
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 2: will be a comin event treatment, which is basically what

2416
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 2: he's getting right now. He's not that guy at all.

2417
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 2: He could actually benefit a lot, I think from going

2418
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,719
Speaker 2: off TV for about four to five fights and really

2419
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 2: just getting better at boxing once he's in a better spot. Really,

2420
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 2: every time he fights, it should be televised somewhere, right.

2421
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:07,639
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a story, it's a fun profit. There's flavor,

2422
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 2: flavor in there, Luke. I mean, there's some wild things

2423
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 2: going on. But dude, if they keep going at this

2424
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 2: rate like he's get, you can get splattered.

2425
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,959
Speaker 1: Bro. Bob Aaron is so fucking old that he promoted

2426
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Ali and now he's promoting Ali's grandson. I mean, you

2427
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me. Bob is never gonna die, much

2428
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 1: to the chagrin of my Coppinger, but he's never gonna die.

2429
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: He's just gonna be old as fuck forever. All right, Well,

2430
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: you got to Keith Richardson at x MMA and we

2431
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: talked about Rising a little bit, So I'll just wrap

2432
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: up mine for Odds and Ends KSW. We talked about

2433
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: it very briefly on Friday the six hundred pound weigh

2434
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 1: in basically between Marius Pujanowski and this dude from Senegal

2435
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 1: I think dudude Senegalese lamb Wrestling Bombardier I think was

2436
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: his name. Well, it didn't go real well for Bombardier.

2437
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 1: He got flat lined in just I think eighteen second

2438
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: and I tweeted about it. B See do you see

2439
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: this fight? I mean it was really like a street

2440
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: fight in the sense that, like you know how it

2441
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 1: goes in the street, two guys square off, usually the

2442
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,600
Speaker 1: first one to land wins the whole show. And that

2443
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: was exactly what happened here. He landed a right hand

2444
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: that the big dude just walked into fell over. Fight over.

2445
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 1: It's fun for weigh ins and photos, but the fights

2446
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 1: tend to be not not thrilling. You know, where'd you go?

2447
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 2: I mean it was did you want it? To be sloppier.

2448
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:33,759
Speaker 2: I mean it was pretty slop.

2449
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit. I want you not

2450
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: not so much sloppier, but like longer could it? Could

2451
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 1: it have gone a minute?

2452
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:44,560
Speaker 2: You know? So how about this, Luke, You shot me

2453
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 2: down early. You shot me down early when I came

2454
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 2: hard to the center of the table with Musasi as

2455
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 2: a fatal opponent, was putting out huge okay, belatoor, main event. Okay,

2456
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 2: I like one.

2457
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Now, now you have my interest level because you have

2458
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 1: exact same dynamic.

2459
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean fifteen years ago. Fad Or may have been

2460
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 2: into it too. I mean he's had a few of these, Luke.

2461
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 1: Dude, fad Or has never been a stranger to take

2462
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 1: in like a fuck off fight, a million of those.

2463
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 1: But he takes it.

2464
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 2: In fact, he takes like tension Nasakawa. He takes it

2465
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 2: really seriously, though, Luke.

2466
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: He just has to win, you know, dude, he do

2467
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: he remember he fought who was it? Zulo Xinho, Uh

2468
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: Junior beat the shit out of him and Hongmongo, Yeah,

2469
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 1: hongman Choy and all these motherfuckers. Dude, that's a perfect

2470
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 1: that's the way it's right in Fador's wheelhouse. Some musty

2471
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 1: slow guy. He can just steal on.

2472
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 2: Really all right, get get Scottie Cookes on the line.

2473
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 2: We'll do that in Chicago. Be a huge Polish and

2474
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 2: Russian back setting, there would be great.

2475
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 1: I will do my best to convince SCTT. Cooker. I'm

2476
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 1: sure he cares deeply about our opinions. All right, With

2477
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: that out of the way, that is most of the show.

2478
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: BC Uh, it was a good one. It sounds like

2479
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 1: you had a very Are you sick by the way

2480
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: you sound a little under the weather.

2481
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, So remember I didn't sleep on that red eye

2482
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 2: flight Thursday night. When you don't sleep on a red

2483
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 2: eye flight again, this rustan roulette. It's it's either it's

2484
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 2: one or two things out right. You either sleep and

2485
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 2: you steal a day and you go on like normal,

2486
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 2: or you don't sleep and you're you're sick off of

2487
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 2: exhaustion for four days and you get a cold so

2488
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 2: you can't even catch a pnemmonia on that ass, Luke,

2489
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,640
Speaker 2: that's normally what happens on these don't I don't am

2490
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 2: am I so old and washed that if I don't

2491
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 2: get an actual night of sleep, I'm like, I just

2492
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 2: that's just the penalty you get right here, you're sick

2493
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 2: with something could be think that's right. I think hopefully

2494
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 2: it's not COVID. Right. No, No, I have a very

2495
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 2: I just have like allergies binding up. But I'm still exhausted. Luke,

2496
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 2: you know I I afked myself, all right.

2497
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 1: I see that. I see that. Well. For everyone else,

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Speaker 1: make sure that you like the video give it a

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Speaker 1: thumbs up. By the way, I want to remind everyone

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Speaker 1: MK extra credit will come out later today or I'll

2501
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Speaker 1: get to some of these fights that we just didn't

2502
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 1: even have a chance to get to on this particular show,

2503
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Speaker 2: Showtime, and then we'll sell you predatory loans to get

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Speaker 2: I should say I will be in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Luke, It's okay, you didn't answer my question. What are

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen that guy before, Yeah, a few times. Yeah, yeah, wow.

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Speaker 2: What are we gonna end that gimmick? Did they go

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Speaker 2: through the responses yet, do we have a winner?

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Speaker 1: I think they've begun to select some finalists, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think they've done the winner part yet. So it's

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Speaker 1: still the race is still open. Anyone can claim it,

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Speaker 1: all right, So that is it. I want to thank Malca,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank CBS Sports, I want to thank Showtime,

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Speaker 1: want to thank Washed Campbell. I'm Washed Luke. Love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. Thumbs up on the video.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for extra credit later in the show. Later

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Speaker 1: in the afternoon, I should say, Plus more content, fresh

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Speaker 1: content coming your way tomorrow. I have a big interview

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Speaker 1: that we're going to share. So until then, thank you

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Speaker 1: for watching, and may all of your gains be loyal.