WEBVTT - Best of TMI Part 1 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:00.760 Peace of the planet. 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.440 Charlamagnea god here and as we come closer to closing 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:05.320 out this year, I just want to say thank you 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.760 for tuning it into the Black Effect Podcast Network. There 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:09.760 have been so many great moments over the past year. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.000 Take a listen to some of those captivating moments in 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:13.440 this special best of episode. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.240 I'm Tamika d. Mallory and the. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:16.760 Shit Boy my Son in general. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.279 We are your host of TMI. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.560 Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:28.280 Inspiration, New Energy. Yes. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.560 So, you know, for the last five months, we've been 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:37.600 heavily engaged in the conversation around what is happening to 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.960 the Palestinian people in Gaza. We have been calling for 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.720 a ceasefire, which we will continue to do. We've taken 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:50.040 a very, very what I believe will be historic position 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.040 that some people have you know, certainly found fault with 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.560 us in that, but I know that we're standing on 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.960 the right side of history. And one of the things 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.000 that has continued to be a part of the dialogue 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.480 is the issue around Haiti and other places, the Congo 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.559 and so many places where people of super dark skin 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:21.600 are also experiencing genocide and or you know, extreme poverty, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.880 extreme depression, oppression and suppression, and folks have been saying, 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.920 why haven't you know, why aren't you talking about these things? 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.080 And of course violence, and they said, you know, why 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.679 aren't you talking about these things? 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:35.680 And I don't think that's that it is. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:38.800 You know it well, certainly, I know that it's not 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.919 a lack of care, but sometimes a lack of information. 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.880 I know I'm learning a lot about the Congo Uh 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.760 And the reason why I can speak so well, the 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.440 reason why we can speak so well to what is 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.360 happening to the Palestinian people is because we've actually walked 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.680 the grounds. We've been there, We visited Palestine, we visited Israel, 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:03.400 and we understand and the issue. We understand the occupation. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.960 We are very clear about what has taken place there 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:11.800 because we were there firsthand, and in the Congos specifically, 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.000 we have not been there, and so it is a 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.720 process of learning and trying to bring people credible information, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.280 credible messengers, and I think today we have a very 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.120 credible messenger who's joining us to talk about Haiti. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:29.320 Now, I have visited Haiti? Have you been Haity been? 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:29.840 So? 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.000 I visited Haiti. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.920 I went not very long after the earthquake, along with 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:40.240 doctor Ron Daniels and a number of individuals from African 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.320 Americans who went there to do very important work to 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.960 bring of course resources, we helped with the school there. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.119 Several schools also. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.079 Went to feed the community and to be one among 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.560 the people and to learn the history. And so this 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.720 is an issue that I've already been tapped in on. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.400 I understand so much about the people of Haiti and 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:06.080 what they have experienced, and so when again talking about 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:11.400 credible messengers, I'm excited, delighted to bring on the show 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.680 today to TMI, a young woman who I found on Instagram. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.360 In fact, I made a comment on someone else's page, 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:24.120 on Teslin's page, Teslan Figero, I made a comment there. Yeah, absolutely, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.360 And you know, one day she said, is anybody paying 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.000 attention to what's happening in Haiti? 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:29.200 Like? 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:29.880 Do we care? 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.000 And I wrote that I'm watching images and learning and 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.880 this whole world just drives me crazy. It's just too 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.680 many things going on at one time. And someone said, 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.640 if you want to learn more, you should go to 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.760 this young woman's page, and I went there and for 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.680 the day, for the night, you know me, I was up. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.240 I was watching videos. I was listening to her commentary, 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.400 and I found her to be an outstanding advocate not 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.000 just for the people of Hati, but also for us 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.200 as black people, even here in America. And so I'm 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.800 excited to bring our guests. I reached out. She reached 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.080 right back. She said, let's get it on, let's talk 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.560 about it. And so today let me introduce to some 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.120 and allow others to be reacquainted. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:15.880 If you're already following her. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:23.440 Doctor Bertrude Albert, doctor okay, PhD. Bertrude Albert, who is 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.360 the CEO and co founder of P four H Global, 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.279 and during her undergraduate agree she and another young lady 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.799 she was went to University of Florida, Miss Priscilla Zela. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.200 I hope that is an appropriate way, but I'm sure 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:44.159 she Zeleiah Zeleah Okay. They co founded pH four Global, 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.040 which was formerly Projects for Haiti, and they had traveled 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:52.200 to Haiti separately on several occasions and realized it realized 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.240 that they shared an unwavering passion for the Haitian people, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.919 and so they decided to start this organization that she 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.039 gonna tell us all about. Thank you so much for 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.479 joining tm I today I'm saying, doctor Albert, but I 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.760 think it's okay for us to call you Bertrude. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:09.960 Yes, definitely Bertrude. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.560 I am so honored and so thankful to be here 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.840 with you. You know, a special shout out to you 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.600 all because with things going on in Haiti, I've been 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.360 getting like a lot of requests from a lot of stations, 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.680 international and global stations to speak and my fear has 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:32.799 been that people will just take soundbites that sensationalize Haiti, 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.280 that make things seem like they're not that don't really 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.240 get to the root of the problem. But when I 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.760 went and checked out Tam, I'm sorry, and I was 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.080 able to learn about the work that you all are 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.839 doing and exposing and speaking truth. I said, this is 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.520 a platform, dm, I, this is a platform that I 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.480 need to partner with that I want to be with. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.039 So thank you for this invitation, Thank you for allowing 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.400 me to be here and speak my truth, our truth today. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.640 Thank you well, thank you for being here. And I 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.680 just love the energy. You know what I'm saying. You 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.200 have a beautiful spirit and energy that's welcoming. So we 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.400 want to thank you for being here. I just want 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.800 to know give us a little bit about yourself. Just 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.240 tell us a little bit about yourself, your studies, how 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:17.440 you got to where we are today. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.440 So I was born in Haiti, but then when I 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.440 was a baby, I came to the United States. And 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.360 it's interesting growing up in South Florida as a Haitian American. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:33.200 I received there was a lot of bullying for Haitians 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.680 in South South Florida, Sorry South Florida, and so it 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:42.000 was definitely a challenging time actually growing up, I kind 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.839 of hit the fact that I was Haitian. I wasn't 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.320 really truly proud of my heritage and where I came 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.039 from because I didn't know who I was. All I 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.920 knew was darkness, devastation, poverty. But then when I went 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.080 to college, when I went to the University of Florida, 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:03.200 go Gators to college, and I learned that my people 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.200 were the first free black republic in the world. When 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.320 I learned that my people created the first nation to 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.640 permanently abolish slavery in the Transatlantic slave trade. When I 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.520 learned that Haiti was the first nation established in Latin 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.840 America and the Caribbean. Haiti was the second nation established 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.760 in the Western hemisphere, when I've learned these hidden gems, 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.600 these hidden glories of my nation, I said, what have 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:26.960 I been ashamed of? 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:27.120 What? 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.480 From that moment forward, I knew that the rest of 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:34.480 my life would be spent towards seeing my country rise. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.480 And so I mean, since college up until now until 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.400 my dying breath, I am going to continue to fight 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.520 not only for Haiti, but also for Tanika. As you 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.800 mentioned the black race, I'm to fight for black freedom 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.080 liberation because we are much more than this narrative that 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.400 that just controls us and suffocates us. We will rise 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.160 and have victory. I could go on for years, but 0:07:58.200 --> 0:07:58.960 I'm gonna stop there. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.320 I'm thinking in this past couple of weeks where we 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.679 commemorated the life of George Floyd, that I hope people 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:12.800 are able to keep that same exact energy of believing 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:18.720 victims who've been brutalized without a video, because the same 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:24.360 people who are saying we should believe Cassi, Cassie and others, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.720 the first time that they say something, these will be 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.520 the same people that are be in my comments section, like, well, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.640 I see the part where the cop beat him up, 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.040 but I need to know what happened before that I 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.800 need to know what happened off camera. I need to 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.280 be able to see the parts that I didn't see, 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.360 so I can know exactly what happened. And if it 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.200 had not been for George Floyd being choked to death 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.880 the way that he was on TV, they would have 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.880 told you the story about an incident, which is alleged. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.120 I've never even had a conversation with his family members 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.720 about this, so all I can say is they say 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:03.839 that he hit a pregnant woman, then they would tell 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.840 you about the fentanyl that was in his system. They 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.839 would have told people those things, and I promise you 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:14.720 the movement would not have been the same if people 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.760 did not see him his life literally leave his body. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.720 It has been that, and the stories and the cases 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.640 go on and on, and in fact, there are people 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.280 who did not see the video of Breonna Taylor being 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.480 shot to death who still don't believe the story as 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.960 it is being as it has been told and proven. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.160 Because the officers. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.080 We literally had to learn that the officers went into 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:44.080 a garage and made up their story and begin to 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:48.520 feed the media lies about Brianna Taylor in order for 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.520 folks to say, well, damn, because but prior to that. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.880 I remember you being on clubhouse one time with some 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.120 guys who was up there talking about she was a 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.920 drug dealer and she was getting packages to her house 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.800 and all of these things. That was bullshit, lies that 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.760 have now been proven in court. They've been proven by 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.160 the witnesses. Who are the witnesses, who are police officers 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.640 that were involved, right, And so I want us to 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.600 do that. I want us to do that. I want 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.720 if we are going to start saying that we have 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.560 to believe people for what they say at the very 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:22.320 moment that. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:23.680 They tell you their story. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.760 I want people to stop asking us to prove police 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:33.320 brutality incidents, even if the person ran, even if the 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.280 person did this or that. In the third the cop 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.839 is the one who is the aggressor or who has 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.280 the most responsibility in the situation because they have a gun, 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.760 they have training, they have responsibilities that come along with 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.840 getting a paycheck to protect and serve. 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.920 So even this. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:56.160 Happened, he ran, he did this, this one yelled at me, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.520 this one spit at a cop. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:10:59.559 They know how to do it. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.720 When the white woman gets in the car and drives 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:06.280 off in the police car, they know how to refrain 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.400 and de escalate, But they don't know how to de 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.120 escalate and refrain when it comes to our community. And 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.120 I'm not conflating the two things to say that one 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.440 is more important than the other. What I am saying 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.080 is that the same people who often say we're gonna 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.200 believe folks, then they should also respect the fact that 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.680 when a victim shows up to us and tells us 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:27.400 that they've been. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:28.720 Brutalized, we believe them. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.360 We believe them, and even if later on we find 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.719 out that they slapped their mama, they did this, they 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.560 were on drugs, they were. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.160 This terrible, horrific, horrid person with this background. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.240 That night when that incident happened, and a police officer 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:50.720 encountered that person, they had a particular responsibility as a 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:51.720 person who. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.480 Is paid by us as. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.440 Taxpayers and paid by the state and or the city 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:05.080 municipalities to handle their job with professionalism. And I want 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:08.120 to see that. I want to see the energy that 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.040 we have that is very selective to spread. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:18.080 I think for me in situations right, it's it's not 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.959 so much about believing or not believing anyone, right, It's 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:26.480 just that I realized that I have a powerful voice, right, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.640 and when I speak about something that I don't have 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.720 knowledge of, I found myself in trouble, right. I found 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.400 myself just on the side of this is what the 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.520 news is saying, and then finding out later on that 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.240 that wasn't exactly what happened. Not saying that it was 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.400 totally false or not, but it was just like for 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.439 me moving forward after I've had situations where I actually 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.280 spoke up or spoke against somebody. I think for me 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.800 to speak against somebody, it's a lot different than me 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.280 speaking up for someone. Right, So if I'm speaking for 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.760 a victim because I want that person to see to 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.480 receive justice, it's not me speaking against anyone, you know. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.400 I think in this situation, it took time for me 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:15.000 to actually have to see something or have something that 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.880 I felt comfortable saying, Okay, I'm going to speak against 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.200 this situation because it was for me because I wanted 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.560 to make sure that I was honest and I was 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.480 given true to what I knew knowledge, you know. And 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.679 I think people have a people have a problem with that. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.079 People want you to speak to something when they want 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.320 to speak and I think each of us has our 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:42.280 own have our own compass of what what it takes 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.200 for us to speak up right, because things I speak, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.400 I'm very vocal about a lot of things. Right when 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.720 I when I when I see something, I said, okay, 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.360 for me, it computes in my mind that those are 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.079 the realities of that situation. I have no problem. I'm 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.160 going to stand and if it's wrong, then I can say, 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.400 you know what, I was wrong. But there's a lot 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.560 of situations where I look and I say, okay, I 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.559 don't know the dynamics of that. I don't I never 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.680 was there. I don't really know. I don't even know 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.120 anybody that knows. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.560 I don't because I remember I would say that, first 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.760 of all, in the previous show that we did, I 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.680 said that I was clear something because people were like, 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.680 just because you settled with somebody doesn't mean that that 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.160 you did wrong. And we know that, right. We understand 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.640 that settlements happen all the time for various reasons. Sometimes 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.720 insurance companies settle, uh, you know, when when a person 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.880 of a high network value is being sued. They may 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.720 feel like it's too much damage to the business or 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.720 the brand. Sometimes people settle because there's just a no 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.000 win situation. Some sometimes people settle because this part is 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.280 true and this party ain't and. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.360 More to go. So there's different reasons, but in this situation, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:57.840 I was clear. I was very clear my my my instincts. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.120 Told me, my heart told me that something happened, and 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.200 something bad happened in the way in which that settlement 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.800 moves so fast. And I said that on our show, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.000 let's not fool ourselves and act like we don't understand 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:15.800 human instinct. Right, If you my son or somebody else 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.640 that's close to me, and a person who is not 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.640 close to me says that you did something to them 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.720 and you say you didn't do it, I'm not just 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.120 about to run out there and say you did, just 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.160 because the world is telling me that that's what I 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:30.560 have to do. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.720 I do value my friendships. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.080 Right, I value my friendships, and I value that if 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.320 somebody has done nothing to me, they have always been 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.800 loving and kind to me and helpful to me, that 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.600 I at least owe them that if they say they 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.080 didn't do something wrong, that I have to be able 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.800 to take a moment to try to reflect and gather 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.160 and even still in that. When we came on our 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.160 show a week or two later, I said that I 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.560 believe something happened, and I all also said that listen, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.800 I can love you and know you've done wrong, and 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.640 people love me and know I've done wrong, And of 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:11.200 course it's not this two totally different things, right, So 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.920 I don't I don't want people to get the impression 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:14.880 that I'm inhuman. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:16.600 It's my walt. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.840 So bonding of the sexes. This has really been good. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:26.480 I mean, the last several episodes, I feel like I 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.200 learned the lie. I'm I'm I'm learning what's hot and 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.840 what's not. You know, you'd be out the streets for 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.280 a while, you don't really know what's. 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.000 Going on in the world. 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.560 And then people tell me that my expectations are to 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.000 this and I don't. I'm never gonna find that, and 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.920 you know, certain things so just makes me sit down 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:49.040 and shut up. But today I would say that this 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:54.400 particular couple that we have watched online and I just 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:58.400 got to know the wife recently, and this is a 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.880 woman who is extremely bubbly and popping, like outside doing 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.240 and going, and you see her in different spaces, looking 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:12.439 good and always having a very bright attitude and knowing. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.200 And I can tell from the conversations that we've had 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.879 that she understands what is happening with social justice in 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:24.200 our society. So these are multi dimensional people and they 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.720 would be in what is considered a traditional marriage, a 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.720 black man and black woman married together and Holy Matcher 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.480 of Eramoni. And so I'm excited that they've joined us 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.960 on tam I today in this series of bonding of 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.240 the sexist. Thank you so much, Nikita and Keith Gibson. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:47.760 Absolutely, what a beautiful introduction. Thank you so much. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.600 Well are we happy to have y'all here? Man? You know, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.160 it's amazing just seeing black people happy together. We love 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.240 to see black people happy together in what we call 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.399 the traditional marriage. So give us like, how did you 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.800 guys meet? Give us the story, the background. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:07.960 Let me tell the story, because you know she's gonna 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.280 add her twist and anything else on. Let me give 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.960 the real story. So we actually met online. All you 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:17.640 remember Aim from from back in the day. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.639 Oh all, wow, wow, you took Aim. You took it 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.080 all the way back back in the day. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.399 I was in and all. I was in Brooklyn, she 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.320 was in Florida. You know, I was just on just 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:36.600 just just for ruising a little bit. I've seen somebody 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.880 that kind of caught my eye. Said let me reach out, 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.600 just say hello. So I said hello. 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.600 You know, usually put age sex location right as l 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.880 that's stuff you used to put on there for age 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:50.280 sex location. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:51.800 Or whatever. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:56.320 But her profile says she was from Brooklyn, right, So 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.280 when she said she's Florida, I was like, well, I 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.200 don't seem right, but all right, no problem. So we 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.480 spoke for a little bit and then you know, like 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.800 it's connected to the phone, so now if somebody has 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.960 to use the phone, you gotta come off. It's online, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.520 so somebody have to use the phone. My sister, and 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.320 she sent me her number and said call her. That's 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.200 the story right there. 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.359 That's sure, sir. Let me let me in your virgin. 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.520 What is your virgin? Cause you sound like you got 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:27.160 another version. 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.439 She got the details she could have came back on 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:30.040 and found me. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.480 She said call me, yeah, that's the number, and said 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.359 call me. I did. I did, okay, So. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.639 We want to aim and he took me up and 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.359 he was trying to you miss the cool guy because 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.639 he was not trying to have like te conversation. It 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.879 was kind of like, oh, what's up, Like you look cute. 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:49.639 I think he said you're cute something like that, and 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.800 I was just like, oh, thank you, and he was 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:53.119 just like when you live And I'm like, you know, 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.000 i don't live in Brooklyn anymore, but I'm from Brooklyn, 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:59.160 which is why it says Brooklyn locate in my bio 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.000 or whatever. I don't even know if it was by 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.760 you at that time. So we're chopping it up a 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.520 little bit. And then in my mind, I'm just not 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.560 taking him seriously because I was so in love with 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.479 my boyfriend at that time, right, but I don't live 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.359 in Brooklyn anymore, so like yeah. 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:15.200 So I'm like I don't know whatever. 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.639 So my sister was like she has to use the computer. No, 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.600 she would see the phone. So I was like, call me. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:26.320 So he called me and literally like the greatest friend 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.200 you could have at a time in your life when 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.280 you just you know that you and your boyfriend about 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:33.639 to end up to Meka, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.840 you know that it's not as bis Rocky not gonna 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.680 go well like y'all none, but then this amazing guy 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.680 just shows up. You're not trying to date him or 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:46.880 anything like looking to date. It was literally just. 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.400 Companionship y'all side of being friends literally. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.280 Friendship, Like we would talk every single day for hours 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.280 for a long time until I remember the day my 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.000 sister was like, if you really like this guy, and 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.240 this guy clearly really likes you, Yeah, you. 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:02.400 Need to you need to let me see. 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.639 Yeah, and that has been since done. 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.080 How do you work it out from Florida to Brooklyn? 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.640 Yeah, I end up coming back to Brooklyn. I was 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.880 I was like a wild team that they would. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.800 Say, right, not really, but my father had sent me 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:19.879 away to Tampa because I wasn't doing too well in 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.280 Brooklyn like most kids, so he had a place to 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:23.520