Speaker 1: Peace of the planet.
Speaker 2: Charlamagnea god here and as we come closer to closing
Speaker 2: out this year, I just want to say thank you
Speaker 2: for tuning it into the Black Effect Podcast Network. There
Speaker 2: have been so many great moments over the past year.
Speaker 2: Take a listen to some of those captivating moments in
Speaker 2: this special best of episode.
Speaker 3: I'm Tamika d. Mallory and the.
Speaker 4: Shit Boy my Son in general.
Speaker 3: We are your host of TMI.
Speaker 4: Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and.
Speaker 3: Inspiration, New Energy. Yes.
Speaker 5: So, you know, for the last five months, we've been
Speaker 5: heavily engaged in the conversation around what is happening to
Speaker 5: the Palestinian people in Gaza. We have been calling for
Speaker 5: a ceasefire, which we will continue to do. We've taken
Speaker 5: a very, very what I believe will be historic position
Speaker 5: that some people have you know, certainly found fault with
Speaker 5: us in that, but I know that we're standing on
Speaker 5: the right side of history. And one of the things
Speaker 5: that has continued to be a part of the dialogue
Speaker 5: is the issue around Haiti and other places, the Congo
Speaker 5: and so many places where people of super dark skin
Speaker 5: are also experiencing genocide and or you know, extreme poverty,
Speaker 5: extreme depression, oppression and suppression, and folks have been saying,
Speaker 5: why haven't you know, why aren't you talking about these things?
Speaker 5: And of course violence, and they said, you know, why
Speaker 5: aren't you talking about these things?
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's that it is.
Speaker 5: You know it well, certainly, I know that it's not
Speaker 5: a lack of care, but sometimes a lack of information.
Speaker 5: I know I'm learning a lot about the Congo Uh
Speaker 5: And the reason why I can speak so well, the
Speaker 5: reason why we can speak so well to what is
Speaker 5: happening to the Palestinian people is because we've actually walked
Speaker 5: the grounds. We've been there, We visited Palestine, we visited Israel,
Speaker 5: and we understand and the issue. We understand the occupation.
Speaker 5: We are very clear about what has taken place there
Speaker 5: because we were there firsthand, and in the Congos specifically,
Speaker 5: we have not been there, and so it is a
Speaker 5: process of learning and trying to bring people credible information,
Speaker 5: credible messengers, and I think today we have a very
Speaker 5: credible messenger who's joining us to talk about Haiti.
Speaker 3: Now, I have visited Haiti? Have you been Haity been?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 3: I visited Haiti.
Speaker 5: I went not very long after the earthquake, along with
Speaker 5: doctor Ron Daniels and a number of individuals from African
Speaker 5: Americans who went there to do very important work to
Speaker 5: bring of course resources, we helped with the school there.
Speaker 3: Several schools also.
Speaker 5: Went to feed the community and to be one among
Speaker 5: the people and to learn the history. And so this
Speaker 5: is an issue that I've already been tapped in on.
Speaker 5: I understand so much about the people of Haiti and
Speaker 5: what they have experienced, and so when again talking about
Speaker 5: credible messengers, I'm excited, delighted to bring on the show
Speaker 5: today to TMI, a young woman who I found on Instagram.
Speaker 5: In fact, I made a comment on someone else's page,
Speaker 5: on Teslin's page, Teslan Figero, I made a comment there. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 5: And you know, one day she said, is anybody paying
Speaker 5: attention to what's happening in Haiti?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Do we care?
Speaker 5: And I wrote that I'm watching images and learning and
Speaker 5: this whole world just drives me crazy. It's just too
Speaker 5: many things going on at one time. And someone said,
Speaker 5: if you want to learn more, you should go to
Speaker 5: this young woman's page, and I went there and for
Speaker 5: the day, for the night, you know me, I was up.
Speaker 5: I was watching videos. I was listening to her commentary,
Speaker 5: and I found her to be an outstanding advocate not
Speaker 5: just for the people of Hati, but also for us
Speaker 5: as black people, even here in America. And so I'm
Speaker 5: excited to bring our guests. I reached out. She reached
Speaker 5: right back. She said, let's get it on, let's talk
Speaker 5: about it. And so today let me introduce to some
Speaker 5: and allow others to be reacquainted.
Speaker 3: If you're already following her.
Speaker 5: Doctor Bertrude Albert, doctor okay, PhD. Bertrude Albert, who is
Speaker 5: the CEO and co founder of P four H Global,
Speaker 5: and during her undergraduate agree she and another young lady
Speaker 5: she was went to University of Florida, Miss Priscilla Zela.
Speaker 5: I hope that is an appropriate way, but I'm sure
Speaker 5: she Zeleiah Zeleah Okay. They co founded pH four Global,
Speaker 5: which was formerly Projects for Haiti, and they had traveled
Speaker 5: to Haiti separately on several occasions and realized it realized
Speaker 5: that they shared an unwavering passion for the Haitian people,
Speaker 5: and so they decided to start this organization that she
Speaker 5: gonna tell us all about. Thank you so much for
Speaker 5: joining tm I today I'm saying, doctor Albert, but I
Speaker 5: think it's okay for us to call you Bertrude.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely Bertrude.
Speaker 6: I am so honored and so thankful to be here
Speaker 6: with you. You know, a special shout out to you
Speaker 6: all because with things going on in Haiti, I've been
Speaker 6: getting like a lot of requests from a lot of stations,
Speaker 6: international and global stations to speak and my fear has
Speaker 6: been that people will just take soundbites that sensationalize Haiti,
Speaker 6: that make things seem like they're not that don't really
Speaker 6: get to the root of the problem. But when I
Speaker 6: went and checked out Tam, I'm sorry, and I was
Speaker 6: able to learn about the work that you all are
Speaker 6: doing and exposing and speaking truth. I said, this is
Speaker 6: a platform, dm, I, this is a platform that I
Speaker 6: need to partner with that I want to be with.
Speaker 6: So thank you for this invitation, Thank you for allowing
Speaker 6: me to be here and speak my truth, our truth today.
Speaker 4: Thank you well, thank you for being here. And I
Speaker 4: just love the energy. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 4: have a beautiful spirit and energy that's welcoming. So we
Speaker 4: want to thank you for being here. I just want
Speaker 4: to know give us a little bit about yourself. Just
Speaker 4: tell us a little bit about yourself, your studies, how
Speaker 4: you got to where we are today.
Speaker 6: So I was born in Haiti, but then when I
Speaker 6: was a baby, I came to the United States. And
Speaker 6: it's interesting growing up in South Florida as a Haitian American.
Speaker 6: I received there was a lot of bullying for Haitians
Speaker 6: in South South Florida, Sorry South Florida, and so it
Speaker 6: was definitely a challenging time actually growing up, I kind
Speaker 6: of hit the fact that I was Haitian. I wasn't
Speaker 6: really truly proud of my heritage and where I came
Speaker 6: from because I didn't know who I was. All I
Speaker 6: knew was darkness, devastation, poverty. But then when I went
Speaker 6: to college, when I went to the University of Florida,
Speaker 6: go Gators to college, and I learned that my people
Speaker 6: were the first free black republic in the world. When
Speaker 6: I learned that my people created the first nation to
Speaker 6: permanently abolish slavery in the Transatlantic slave trade. When I
Speaker 6: learned that Haiti was the first nation established in Latin
Speaker 6: America and the Caribbean. Haiti was the second nation established
Speaker 6: in the Western hemisphere, when I've learned these hidden gems,
Speaker 6: these hidden glories of my nation, I said, what have
Speaker 6: I been ashamed of?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 6: From that moment forward, I knew that the rest of
Speaker 6: my life would be spent towards seeing my country rise.
Speaker 6: And so I mean, since college up until now until
Speaker 6: my dying breath, I am going to continue to fight
Speaker 6: not only for Haiti, but also for Tanika. As you
Speaker 6: mentioned the black race, I'm to fight for black freedom
Speaker 6: liberation because we are much more than this narrative that
Speaker 6: that just controls us and suffocates us. We will rise
Speaker 6: and have victory. I could go on for years, but
Speaker 6: I'm gonna stop there.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking in this past couple of weeks where we
Speaker 5: commemorated the life of George Floyd, that I hope people
Speaker 5: are able to keep that same exact energy of believing
Speaker 5: victims who've been brutalized without a video, because the same
Speaker 5: people who are saying we should believe Cassi, Cassie and others,
Speaker 5: the first time that they say something, these will be
Speaker 5: the same people that are be in my comments section, like, well,
Speaker 5: I see the part where the cop beat him up,
Speaker 5: but I need to know what happened before that I
Speaker 5: need to know what happened off camera. I need to
Speaker 5: be able to see the parts that I didn't see,
Speaker 5: so I can know exactly what happened. And if it
Speaker 5: had not been for George Floyd being choked to death
Speaker 5: the way that he was on TV, they would have
Speaker 5: told you the story about an incident, which is alleged.
Speaker 5: I've never even had a conversation with his family members
Speaker 5: about this, so all I can say is they say
Speaker 5: that he hit a pregnant woman, then they would tell
Speaker 5: you about the fentanyl that was in his system. They
Speaker 5: would have told people those things, and I promise you
Speaker 5: the movement would not have been the same if people
Speaker 5: did not see him his life literally leave his body.
Speaker 5: It has been that, and the stories and the cases
Speaker 5: go on and on, and in fact, there are people
Speaker 5: who did not see the video of Breonna Taylor being
Speaker 5: shot to death who still don't believe the story as
Speaker 5: it is being as it has been told and proven.
Speaker 3: Because the officers.
Speaker 5: We literally had to learn that the officers went into
Speaker 5: a garage and made up their story and begin to
Speaker 5: feed the media lies about Brianna Taylor in order for
Speaker 5: folks to say, well, damn, because but prior to that.
Speaker 5: I remember you being on clubhouse one time with some
Speaker 5: guys who was up there talking about she was a
Speaker 5: drug dealer and she was getting packages to her house
Speaker 5: and all of these things. That was bullshit, lies that
Speaker 5: have now been proven in court. They've been proven by
Speaker 5: the witnesses. Who are the witnesses, who are police officers
Speaker 5: that were involved, right, And so I want us to
Speaker 5: do that. I want us to do that. I want
Speaker 5: if we are going to start saying that we have
Speaker 5: to believe people for what they say at the very
Speaker 5: moment that.
Speaker 3: They tell you their story.
Speaker 5: I want people to stop asking us to prove police
Speaker 5: brutality incidents, even if the person ran, even if the
Speaker 5: person did this or that. In the third the cop
Speaker 5: is the one who is the aggressor or who has
Speaker 5: the most responsibility in the situation because they have a gun,
Speaker 5: they have training, they have responsibilities that come along with
Speaker 5: getting a paycheck to protect and serve.
Speaker 3: So even this.
Speaker 5: Happened, he ran, he did this, this one yelled at me,
Speaker 5: this one spit at a cop.
Speaker 3: They know how to do it.
Speaker 5: When the white woman gets in the car and drives
Speaker 5: off in the police car, they know how to refrain
Speaker 5: and de escalate, But they don't know how to de
Speaker 5: escalate and refrain when it comes to our community. And
Speaker 5: I'm not conflating the two things to say that one
Speaker 5: is more important than the other. What I am saying
Speaker 5: is that the same people who often say we're gonna
Speaker 5: believe folks, then they should also respect the fact that
Speaker 5: when a victim shows up to us and tells us
Speaker 5: that they've been.
Speaker 3: Brutalized, we believe them.
Speaker 5: We believe them, and even if later on we find
Speaker 5: out that they slapped their mama, they did this, they
Speaker 5: were on drugs, they were.
Speaker 3: This terrible, horrific, horrid person with this background.
Speaker 5: That night when that incident happened, and a police officer
Speaker 5: encountered that person, they had a particular responsibility as a
Speaker 5: person who.
Speaker 3: Is paid by us as.
Speaker 5: Taxpayers and paid by the state and or the city
Speaker 5: municipalities to handle their job with professionalism. And I want
Speaker 5: to see that. I want to see the energy that
Speaker 5: we have that is very selective to spread.
Speaker 4: I think for me in situations right, it's it's not
Speaker 4: so much about believing or not believing anyone, right, It's
Speaker 4: just that I realized that I have a powerful voice, right,
Speaker 4: and when I speak about something that I don't have
Speaker 4: knowledge of, I found myself in trouble, right. I found
Speaker 4: myself just on the side of this is what the
Speaker 4: news is saying, and then finding out later on that
Speaker 4: that wasn't exactly what happened. Not saying that it was
Speaker 4: totally false or not, but it was just like for
Speaker 4: me moving forward after I've had situations where I actually
Speaker 4: spoke up or spoke against somebody. I think for me
Speaker 4: to speak against somebody, it's a lot different than me
Speaker 4: speaking up for someone. Right, So if I'm speaking for
Speaker 4: a victim because I want that person to see to
Speaker 4: receive justice, it's not me speaking against anyone, you know.
Speaker 4: I think in this situation, it took time for me
Speaker 4: to actually have to see something or have something that
Speaker 4: I felt comfortable saying, Okay, I'm going to speak against
Speaker 4: this situation because it was for me because I wanted
Speaker 4: to make sure that I was honest and I was
Speaker 4: given true to what I knew knowledge, you know. And
Speaker 4: I think people have a people have a problem with that.
Speaker 4: People want you to speak to something when they want
Speaker 4: to speak and I think each of us has our
Speaker 4: own have our own compass of what what it takes
Speaker 4: for us to speak up right, because things I speak,
Speaker 4: I'm very vocal about a lot of things. Right when
Speaker 4: I when I when I see something, I said, okay,
Speaker 4: for me, it computes in my mind that those are
Speaker 4: the realities of that situation. I have no problem. I'm
Speaker 4: going to stand and if it's wrong, then I can say,
Speaker 4: you know what, I was wrong. But there's a lot
Speaker 4: of situations where I look and I say, okay, I
Speaker 4: don't know the dynamics of that. I don't I never
Speaker 4: was there. I don't really know. I don't even know
Speaker 4: anybody that knows.
Speaker 5: I don't because I remember I would say that, first
Speaker 5: of all, in the previous show that we did, I
Speaker 5: said that I was clear something because people were like,
Speaker 5: just because you settled with somebody doesn't mean that that
Speaker 5: you did wrong. And we know that, right. We understand
Speaker 5: that settlements happen all the time for various reasons. Sometimes
Speaker 5: insurance companies settle, uh, you know, when when a person
Speaker 5: of a high network value is being sued. They may
Speaker 5: feel like it's too much damage to the business or
Speaker 5: the brand. Sometimes people settle because there's just a no
Speaker 5: win situation. Some sometimes people settle because this part is
Speaker 5: true and this party ain't and.
Speaker 3: More to go. So there's different reasons, but in this situation,
Speaker 3: I was clear. I was very clear my my my instincts.
Speaker 5: Told me, my heart told me that something happened, and
Speaker 5: something bad happened in the way in which that settlement
Speaker 5: moves so fast. And I said that on our show,
Speaker 5: let's not fool ourselves and act like we don't understand
Speaker 5: human instinct. Right, If you my son or somebody else
Speaker 5: that's close to me, and a person who is not
Speaker 5: close to me says that you did something to them
Speaker 5: and you say you didn't do it, I'm not just
Speaker 5: about to run out there and say you did, just
Speaker 5: because the world is telling me that that's what I
Speaker 5: have to do.
Speaker 3: I do value my friendships.
Speaker 5: Right, I value my friendships, and I value that if
Speaker 5: somebody has done nothing to me, they have always been
Speaker 5: loving and kind to me and helpful to me, that
Speaker 5: I at least owe them that if they say they
Speaker 5: didn't do something wrong, that I have to be able
Speaker 5: to take a moment to try to reflect and gather
Speaker 5: and even still in that. When we came on our
Speaker 5: show a week or two later, I said that I
Speaker 5: believe something happened, and I all also said that listen,
Speaker 5: I can love you and know you've done wrong, and
Speaker 5: people love me and know I've done wrong, And of
Speaker 5: course it's not this two totally different things, right, So
Speaker 5: I don't I don't want people to get the impression
Speaker 5: that I'm inhuman.
Speaker 1: It's my walt.
Speaker 3: So bonding of the sexes. This has really been good.
Speaker 5: I mean, the last several episodes, I feel like I
Speaker 5: learned the lie. I'm I'm I'm learning what's hot and
Speaker 5: what's not. You know, you'd be out the streets for
Speaker 5: a while, you don't really know what's.
Speaker 3: Going on in the world.
Speaker 5: And then people tell me that my expectations are to
Speaker 5: this and I don't. I'm never gonna find that, and
Speaker 5: you know, certain things so just makes me sit down
Speaker 5: and shut up. But today I would say that this
Speaker 5: particular couple that we have watched online and I just
Speaker 5: got to know the wife recently, and this is a
Speaker 5: woman who is extremely bubbly and popping, like outside doing
Speaker 5: and going, and you see her in different spaces, looking
Speaker 5: good and always having a very bright attitude and knowing.
Speaker 5: And I can tell from the conversations that we've had
Speaker 5: that she understands what is happening with social justice in
Speaker 5: our society. So these are multi dimensional people and they
Speaker 5: would be in what is considered a traditional marriage, a
Speaker 5: black man and black woman married together and Holy Matcher
Speaker 5: of Eramoni. And so I'm excited that they've joined us
Speaker 5: on tam I today in this series of bonding of
Speaker 5: the sexist. Thank you so much, Nikita and Keith Gibson.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, what a beautiful introduction. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Well are we happy to have y'all here? Man? You know,
Speaker 4: it's amazing just seeing black people happy together. We love
Speaker 4: to see black people happy together in what we call
Speaker 4: the traditional marriage. So give us like, how did you
Speaker 4: guys meet? Give us the story, the background.
Speaker 7: Let me tell the story, because you know she's gonna
Speaker 7: add her twist and anything else on. Let me give
Speaker 7: the real story. So we actually met online. All you
Speaker 7: remember Aim from from back in the day.
Speaker 4: Oh all, wow, wow, you took Aim. You took it
Speaker 4: all the way back back in the day.
Speaker 1: I was in and all. I was in Brooklyn, she
Speaker 1: was in Florida. You know, I was just on just
Speaker 1: just just for ruising a little bit. I've seen somebody
Speaker 1: that kind of caught my eye. Said let me reach out,
Speaker 1: just say hello. So I said hello.
Speaker 7: You know, usually put age sex location right as l
Speaker 7: that's stuff you used to put on there for age
Speaker 7: sex location.
Speaker 1: Or whatever.
Speaker 7: But her profile says she was from Brooklyn, right, So
Speaker 7: when she said she's Florida, I was like, well, I
Speaker 7: don't seem right, but all right, no problem. So we
Speaker 7: spoke for a little bit and then you know, like
Speaker 7: it's connected to the phone, so now if somebody has
Speaker 7: to use the phone, you gotta come off. It's online,
Speaker 7: so somebody have to use the phone. My sister, and
Speaker 7: she sent me her number and said call her. That's
Speaker 7: the story right there.
Speaker 4: That's sure, sir. Let me let me in your virgin.
Speaker 4: What is your virgin? Cause you sound like you got
Speaker 4: another version.
Speaker 3: She got the details she could have came back on
Speaker 3: and found me.
Speaker 1: She said call me, yeah, that's the number, and said
Speaker 1: call me. I did. I did, okay, So.
Speaker 8: We want to aim and he took me up and
Speaker 8: he was trying to you miss the cool guy because
Speaker 8: he was not trying to have like te conversation. It
Speaker 8: was kind of like, oh, what's up, Like you look cute.
Speaker 8: I think he said you're cute something like that, and
Speaker 8: I was just like, oh, thank you, and he was
Speaker 8: just like when you live And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 8: i don't live in Brooklyn anymore, but I'm from Brooklyn,
Speaker 8: which is why it says Brooklyn locate in my bio
Speaker 8: or whatever. I don't even know if it was by
Speaker 8: you at that time. So we're chopping it up a
Speaker 8: little bit. And then in my mind, I'm just not
Speaker 8: taking him seriously because I was so in love with
Speaker 8: my boyfriend at that time, right, but I don't live
Speaker 8: in Brooklyn anymore, so like yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm like I don't know whatever.
Speaker 8: So my sister was like she has to use the computer. No,
Speaker 8: she would see the phone. So I was like, call me.
Speaker 8: So he called me and literally like the greatest friend
Speaker 8: you could have at a time in your life when
Speaker 8: you just you know that you and your boyfriend about
Speaker 8: to end up to Meka, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 8: you know that it's not as bis Rocky not gonna
Speaker 8: go well like y'all none, but then this amazing guy
Speaker 8: just shows up. You're not trying to date him or
Speaker 8: anything like looking to date. It was literally just.
Speaker 3: Companionship y'all side of being friends literally.
Speaker 8: Friendship, Like we would talk every single day for hours
Speaker 8: for a long time until I remember the day my
Speaker 8: sister was like, if you really like this guy, and
Speaker 8: this guy clearly really likes you, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Need to you need to let me see.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that has been since done.
Speaker 3: How do you work it out from Florida to Brooklyn?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I end up coming back to Brooklyn. I was
Speaker 1: I was like a wild team that they would.
Speaker 8: Say, right, not really, but my father had sent me
Speaker 8: away to Tampa because I wasn't doing too well in
Speaker 8: Brooklyn like most kids, so he had a place to
Speaker 8: send me, so he sent me to Tampa.
Speaker 1: I was there for like a year and a half
Speaker 1: and he sent me back.
Speaker 8: So when I came back to Brooklyn, Heep was still there,
Speaker 8: like he was still that guy, and it was like, great,
Speaker 8: we're in the same city. I remember just knowing, do
Speaker 8: you do you know that feeling when you just feel like, Okay,
Speaker 8: this is my person.
Speaker 1: I feel like I sent you. That's how I felt.
Speaker 8: I felt that he was an angel that was set
Speaker 8: for me. He was what I needed then and he's
Speaker 8: stile what I need now. So I feel like it
Speaker 8: was just and it wasn't continuous the entire time.
Speaker 3: That's what we wanted to know. Have y'all had breaks
Speaker 3: along the way.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we definitely had had needed breaks. I would
Speaker 8: call it because I definitely do think that women need
Speaker 8: to be sure, Like I feel like a guy knows,
Speaker 8: Like I remember keep telling me, like, you're gonna be
Speaker 8: my wife, like he knew, and I was laughing internally.
Speaker 1: I didn't laugh in his face, but.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm just like I'm not I'm not gonna
Speaker 8: be your wife like you know. I'm just like you
Speaker 8: just here, You're good for now. But I was like
Speaker 8: not thinking like God, and he knew he wanted to
Speaker 8: marry me.
Speaker 1: He said, You're gonna be my wife. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 8: But for me, I felt like I want to make
Speaker 8: sure that I'm you know, dating another.
Speaker 1: Guys or just making sure that this is the right.
Speaker 3: Person, right, because that's what they tell us to do.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, like I feel like this is my person, but like,
Speaker 8: how do I know?
Speaker 1: Am I sure? And then the world doesn't help with
Speaker 1: it either, to be honest, because.
Speaker 8: I remember having older girlfriends, which I still have up
Speaker 8: to this day, but I had older girlfriends in that
Speaker 8: stage of life that would tell me, like, you a
Speaker 8: so beautiful girl, like you should be out here dating,
Speaker 8: you should be in this And I'm like that, I'm
Speaker 8: not into that, Like I'm not why why do I
Speaker 8: need to date a whole bunch of men, you know,
Speaker 8: to like figure out if this is my guy. I
Speaker 8: he honors me, he respects me, he's like the perfect gentleman.
Speaker 1: I just knew that this was my person.
Speaker 8: I actually knew that he was the person that I
Speaker 8: wanted to be a father to my future children.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's how surpassed me. It was like,
Speaker 1: this is he's a wonderful man.
Speaker 8: He comes from a wonderful family, and if he's anything
Speaker 8: like his father, I need to marry this man. So
Speaker 8: my mindset became that and my friends were like absolutely not,
Speaker 8: which is terrible, right, But in the end it worked
Speaker 8: out for us. But I can only imagine how detrimental
Speaker 8: that advice would be to another couple because a lot
Speaker 8: of people try.
Speaker 1: To say you're too young, you're too young.
Speaker 8: I got married at twenty five and it's about to
Speaker 8: be ten years in October, and I am still happily
Speaker 8: married with this man.
Speaker 1: And it's not easy.
Speaker 8: But the fact that we are still here and still
Speaker 8: happy right like that to.
Speaker 1: Me is like, isn't enough.
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