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Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar Airings and Brady Winn and Jonas Knox

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Speaker 1: on radio.

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Speaker 2: We are going to have our NFL picks coming up

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Speaker 2: later on AM.

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Speaker 3: Hearing reports that Brady Quinn might have gone a real deep,

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Speaker 3: real deep to UH to research and come up with

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Speaker 3: his picks for this upcoming season.

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Speaker 4: All right. I mean, I'll tell you guys right off

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Speaker 4: the top, there's only one way I know how to

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Speaker 4: do it. Okay, I do it hard, I do it fast.

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Speaker 4: I get it one shot one shot wow, and I

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Speaker 4: can't and whatever the results are, I have to live

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Speaker 4: with them.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Because like I kind of came back after this one,

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh man, is that really how I

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Speaker 4: feel like it's gonna play out? But it does provide

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Speaker 4: you some instant insight into these schedules and what's gonna

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Speaker 4: happen for some of these teams. Like you kind of

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Speaker 4: come away going all right, that team's got a lot

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Speaker 4: harder schedule than I thought they were going to have.

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Speaker 4: Like I kind of I know the roster is good.

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Speaker 4: Then you start kind of going through You're like, all right, man,

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Speaker 4: they don't really have a buy till then, and you

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Speaker 4: know they got like a string of road games or whatever.

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Speaker 4: It is, Like, it's it's a good activity, man. I

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Speaker 4: would tell anyone to do it. I tell people all

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Speaker 4: the time. It's called playoff predictors dot com. You can

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Speaker 4: go do it. It's fun to do. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: did it for every single game, not like LeVar, who

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Speaker 4: couldn't even name you last year who won the FC

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Speaker 4: South in his opinion or second for that matter.

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Speaker 5: Apparently a sight on our on.

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Speaker 6: Our intro sound because i sound like I don't know anything,

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Speaker 6: and I'm saying I don't know anything, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at what you did last year. Honestly, black

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Speaker 5: I pick them right, I pick them straight. You know

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Speaker 5: that's hard to.

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Speaker 4: Pick the FC South at them, but I guess I

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Speaker 5: FC South didn't even count whatever. Whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's up to you.

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Speaker 2: You just dissolve the entire division, like nobody comes out.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it wouldn't be a horrible idea. Or the

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Speaker 6: NFC South, I mean either one. It wouldn't be a

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Speaker 6: horrible idea. There's one team that that represents it at

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Speaker 6: one point time, you know, could be Houston at one

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Speaker 6: it's like, all right, you know, it's been a while.

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Speaker 5: It's been a while with the Saints.

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Speaker 3: Come on, So we're gonna hammer out the Titans throughout

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Speaker 5: Of Are they even in that?

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Speaker 6: I don't even know the Titans Jacksonville?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: So we are out.

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Speaker 3: We're going to hammer out those picks throughout the course

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Speaker 3: of the show. We're gonna spa on some of the

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Speaker 3: first hour, the second hour, the third hour. Can we

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Speaker 3: because this is another quote unquote bombshell that was dropped

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Speaker 3: He was the one who came up with the collusion evidence.

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Speaker 3: He's the one who scouted out where Bill Belichick was

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Speaker 7: You may recall how in twenty nineteen, the NBA investigated

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Speaker 7: This was the Lakers, the Raptors, very mad, lots of teams,

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Speaker 7: Salary caps are convention, but they find nothing. This is

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Speaker 7: a story that started because of a company called Aspiration,

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Speaker 7: like good guys, only for those same good guys to

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Speaker 7: and Steve Bamber in this story put in fifty million

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you have to in order to make

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Speaker 4: could this have been fraudulently could this have been a

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Speaker 4: way to circumvent the salary cap? Sure? Well, let me

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Speaker 4: read you Mark Cuban's response. I'm on team Balmer. Well,

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Speaker 4: there for a second. He put fifty million into this, right,

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of money. I don't care how much

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Speaker 4: Kawhi was only getting paid seventy a year from that,

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Speaker 4: they got scammed by Aspiration, along with many others crimes

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Speaker 4: Like a lot of these people pleaded guilty to and

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Speaker 4: if that's the case, like they're all taking the fall,

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Speaker 4: then just so Steve Balmer and the Clippers could be

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Speaker 4: take the fall for him. I mean, they did a

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Speaker 4: three hundred million dollar sponship deal with the Clippers in

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Speaker 4: investors and want the Clippers to succeed, why not give

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Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense. So that's the hard part

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Speaker 4: about this is Pabloatore does this report, it's tantalizing. Everyone

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Speaker 4: runs with it and get the popolatry ever reached out

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Speaker 4: to Steve Balmer get his side of it. Isn't that

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Speaker 2: I mean, at least they got the NBA in the news.

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Speaker 6: interesting listening to you talk about it, but well, the reason.

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Speaker 4: Is there, you go. But the reason is there's there's

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Speaker 4: So that is tampering.

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Speaker 6: It's like tampering or fraud what would what would we

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Speaker 4: Well, fraud, you call it fraudule. It's just it goes

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Speaker 4: against the CBA, right because you've got a union, you've

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Speaker 4: right we have the House NCAA settlement that allows now

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Speaker 4: whether or not those deals are deemed worthy, like if

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Speaker 4: It's it's the lengths that teams go to in order

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Speaker 2: How bad do you want it?

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Speaker 4: Maybe not in Alabama. You know, a lot more back

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Speaker 3: the pride of Ohio State the one and only Albert Prier.

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Speaker 3: You know, they could have the marching band to come

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Speaker 3: out and put Corso on the field.

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Speaker 2: All they want. There's only one. There is big time there.

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Speaker 3: It is big Head hauncho of Columbus and it's the

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Speaker 3: one and only Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content

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Speaker 3: strategist at the MMQB.

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Speaker 2: You can get them on x at Albert Breer ab o.

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Speaker 10: H I oh, I'm not the bush anymore, Brady, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: You're not the bush anymore. You did it, al maybe,

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Speaker 4: actually it probably took you. Bring your whole family though.

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Speaker 4: You gotta make it a family affair and stop making

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Speaker 10: I might be stuck. I might be stuck now. But

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Speaker 10: uh but yeah, no, it was a great saturday. We

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Speaker 10: the Fox people, so that was good. And uh, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I didn't realize you guys were You guys are right

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Speaker 2: He did not, Yeah, you did.

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Speaker 10: Fourteen to ten and I wasn't far off. And Jonas

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Speaker 10: and Hammer the Under and whoever whoever did that, I

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Speaker 3: Well done.

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Speaker 4: Uh, we have a bone to pick with you, though.

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Speaker 4: We do have a bone to pick because Micah Parsons

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Speaker 4: Dan Patrick and you're saying, how there's what there's five

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Speaker 4: was that information with our show last week? Like what

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Speaker 10: Did I not say it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: No, you did not.

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Speaker 10: I put that on you guys. Well, you guys got

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you got to ask Albert. If you ask me

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Speaker 6: I tell you, Albert, what information that you may use

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Speaker 5: Do you have any for us right now?

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Speaker 10: more teams involved. And then the other piece of that

438
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Speaker 10: too is you know, you probably have one of those

439
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Speaker 10: ticks on your team now if you're the Cowboys, right,

440
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 10: instead of having to wait until next April to have

441
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 10: any of the any of the windfall from the draft

442
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Speaker 10: capital on your roster.

443
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Speaker 6: What has the what has the feedback been since the

444
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Speaker 6: trade in your circles.

445
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Speaker 5: Abe.

446
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Speaker 6: I'm curious because it seems as though there's there's and

447
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Speaker 6: I don't get it, but there seems to be almost

448
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Speaker 6: a little bit of balance, Like, Okay, some people actually

449
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 6: like maybe they did a good thing by getting rid

450
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Speaker 6: of Michael Parsons. And then there's the other side that

451
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Speaker 6: I tend to fall on, which is there's no sensible

452
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Speaker 6: or lodge cool way you can justify what Dallas just did.

453
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Speaker 10: Yeah. I think like the way most people in the

454
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 10: league look at it, LeVar is that this is two

455
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 10: teams that are sort of in different spots. And you know,

456
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Speaker 10: for the Packers, they've been close the last couple of years,

457
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 10: and they are in position to say, maybe we are

458
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 10: a great player away from competing for a championship, right

459
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Speaker 10: I don't think the Cowboys are necessarily there. And you know,

460
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Speaker 10: I think over the last few months, as this thing

461
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 10: did not progress right like, and as there was very

462
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Speaker 10: little steps forward taken between the Cowboys and might get

463
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Speaker 10: towards the deal, the Cowboys had to look in the

464
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Speaker 10: mirror and I think, you know, like a big piece

465
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Speaker 10: of the conversations that they had contemplating where they are

466
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Speaker 10: from a team standpoint, and you know, so I think,

467
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 10: you know, like really for Jerry Jones, for Stephen Jones,

468
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 10: for Will McLay, for Ein Schottenheimer, it's like, what do

469
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 10: we want to be and what do we want to build?

470
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Speaker 10: And you know, Shot, he's used that term the greatest

471
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Speaker 10: culture and in professional sports, and that's a little over

472
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Speaker 10: the top, but it kind of illustrates what he wants

473
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Speaker 10: to build there. And so, you know, if they had

474
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Speaker 10: gotten to a point where it was like, we can't

475
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Speaker 10: go forward with Michah Parsons, what do we want to build, Well,

476
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Speaker 10: you know, we want to lean into Dak Prescott as

477
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Speaker 10: a leader, and we want to lean into you know,

478
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Speaker 10: trying to to to rework the locker room. And if

479
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Speaker 10: Mike is not going to be a part of that,

480
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 10: that'll give us a little bit more space to do that.

481
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Speaker 10: And you know, that's why the idea of picking Kenny Clark,

482
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Speaker 10: and the Packers were a little surprised because Kenny's older

483
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Speaker 10: and Kenny's not an edge, so he doesn't replace Micah

484
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Speaker 10: Parsons on the roster, right, the Packers were a little

485
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Speaker 10: surprised and they asked for Kenny Clark, but that was

486
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Speaker 10: sort of a targeted thing for the Cowboys, and they

487
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Speaker 10: talked about the run defense thing, and that is part

488
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Speaker 10: of it. But another part of it is there's no

489
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Speaker 10: better pro out there than Kenny Clark, you know. And

490
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Speaker 10: so I think part of this is all right, like

491
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Speaker 10: if we are going to kind of reset, you know,

492
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Speaker 10: where we are from a franchise standpoint, if we are

493
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Speaker 10: going to concede and admit to ourselves that we're not

494
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Speaker 10: that close to pe for championship, but we're in this

495
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Speaker 10: thirty year drought, you know, how do we retool? How

496
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Speaker 10: do we reconfigure things?

497
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Speaker 5: And uh, the season? So you're saying I.

498
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Speaker 10: Think, yeah, I think to some degree, like they would

499
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Speaker 10: never concede, that they would never admit that. But I

500
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 10: think this is a concession from the Cowboys and implicit

501
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Speaker 10: concession from the Cowboys that we aren't that close, we

502
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Speaker 10: aren't a player away. We we we do need to

503
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Speaker 10: retool a little bit. And I you know, I would

504
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Speaker 10: actually give them some credit for that and being honest

505
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Speaker 10: with themselves about it, even if they can't be honest

506
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Speaker 10: about that publicly.

507
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Speaker 3: Maybe from your understanding, what was the opinion of Micah

508
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Speaker 3: Parsons in the locker.

509
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Speaker 10: Room, it was very hot and cold. I would say

510
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 10: he pissed some people off with his with his podcast,

511
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 10: that's for sure, and some of the stuff that he

512
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 10: said there now look like there's two sizes to this, right, Like,

513
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Speaker 10: so Mike is a different guy. I don't think Mike

514
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 10: is ever going to be the best leader in the

515
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Speaker 10: on the team. You know, that wasn't going to happen.

516
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 10: But you know, the flip side of that is that's

517
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 10: the way a lot a lot of pass rushers are

518
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 10: different guys, you know, like you know TJ. Watt, you know,

519
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 10: like Miles Garrett, Like I can go back to some

520
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 10: of the guys that I've covered over the years, Von

521
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Speaker 10: Miller is a very different guy. Not a bad guy,

522
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Speaker 10: but just a different guy. You know. It's something that's

523
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Speaker 10: sort of I don't know why, but it's something that's

524
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 10: sort of specific to that position. And so you know,

525
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Speaker 10: Micah is a different guy, and what you've been around him,

526
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Speaker 10: you know, like he's a different guy. And like I

527
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Speaker 10: and I and I do think like that part of it,

528
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 10: like he rubbed some guys in that locker room the

529
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Speaker 10: wrong way, there's no question.

530
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Speaker 6: And could I throw this out at you while you're

531
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Speaker 6: saying that just since you brought me in by saying

532
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Speaker 6: I know them, Is it a possibility because that different

533
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 6: that you're talking about is probably could be considered ultra competitive.

534
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 6: Got all those names you named are guys that are

535
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 6: ultra ultra Like if if you said, let's find caterpillars outside,

536
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 6: my caterpillar will be faster than your caterpillar.

537
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 5: Like let's go shoot hoops, let's play horse.

538
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 6: All them dudes you named are dudes that are going

539
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Speaker 6: to try to beat you in every single aspect of

540
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 6: anything and everything. Was he too intense for their locker room?

541
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Speaker 6: Were they too much of pussy's in the locker room

542
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Speaker 6: to be to be what they needed to be? Or

543
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 6: or was this a matter of they just were rubbed

544
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Speaker 6: the wrong way and in other ways?

545
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Speaker 10: I think I think there were there were situations are

546
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Speaker 10: where he called people out. Did it rubbed people the

547
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Speaker 10: wrong way? Now, I like I think that piece of it,

548
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Speaker 10: Like you know, some people felt like some people felt

549
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 10: like Michael was out for Micah and again, like you know,

550
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 10: there's a fine line when it comes back who.

551
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Speaker 6: Isn't out for who isn't out for themselves? In the league, though, I.

552
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 5: Mean and that's a that's a real like f up.

553
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 6: Way of saying it, Like he's not he's the only

554
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 6: selfish one in the locker room that's about himself.

555
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 10: Like come on, yeah, I hear you, I hear you,

556
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 10: I hear you. You know, and I know you know, bar,

557
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 10: I'm just kind of conveying what I've heard, you know, Like,

558
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 10: but but I do think, but I do think that

559
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 10: that that definitely existed there and some people felt like,

560
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 10: you know, he had like like Micah had had certain

561
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 10: platforms and they felt like, you know, there were situations

562
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 10: where he was he was calling guys out where it

563
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 10: was uncalled for. And I again, like that's a fine line, right,

564
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 10: like sometimes sometimes that stuff needs to happen. However, however,

565
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 10: you want to break that down and look at it,

566
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 10: like there were those issues that existed in the locker room,

567
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 10: and one way to fix it, of course, would be

568
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 10: to empower him. And how does that go with the

569
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 10: other guys in the luck which you empower him by

570
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 10: paying them, right, and then you see what the result

571
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 10: of that is. The other way to fix that is

572
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 10: to trade them and you know, like again like I

573
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 10: don't want to make a sound like they're just getting

574
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 10: rid of him because they're not like they tried to

575
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 10: resfind him, you know what I mean. They offered him

576
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 10: a lot of money, So like this wasn't a this

577
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 10: wasn't a like we need to get rid of him

578
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 10: type of thing. I think I think it was more

579
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 10: when the efforts to get him resigned failed, that's when

580
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 10: they start to have those bigger picture conversations. That makes sense,

581
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 10: Like it's like, all right, like we try, we were,

582
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 10: we've tried to do a deal with him. Now we've

583
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 10: got to start to talk about what this looks like

584
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 10: if we walk away from him, what the benefit of

585
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 10: walking away from him is. You know, those bigger picture

586
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 10: conversations were provoked not by we need to get this

587
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 10: guy out of the building. Those bigger picture conversations were

588
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 10: provoked by we haven't been able to get a deal

589
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 10: done yet, so like, how far are we willing to

590
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 10: go to get a deal done? What are the pros

591
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 10: and cons to getting a deal done? When the conversation

592
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 10: about getting a contract done sales in March and April,

593
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 10: Now all of a sudden, you know, those bigger picture

594
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 10: conversations get opened up, and a lot of these sorts

595
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 10: of things are discussed.

596
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Speaker 4: Albert. I want to switch gears here and talk a

597
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: little bit more about some teams with high expectations this season,

598
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: maybe no one higher than the Buffalo Bills and Josh

599
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: Allen Ranning MVP. Is there a sense though, that if

600
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: things don't go well this season for the Bills, they

601
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: might start looking elsewhere and looking elsewhere for a different

602
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 4: head coach. It feels like Sean McDermott's been there for

603
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Speaker 4: a long time. I love them personally. I'm not saying

604
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: this would be a smart move, but you know, owners

605
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: get you know, it's like when you don't win the

606
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, everyone's like, well, why didn't we? And we

607
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: start sometimes chasing ghosts and making up reasons for what

608
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: we need to do in order to win one. Is

609
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: there a sense that there's a lot of pressure on

610
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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott despite the fact that you know they've been

611
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: incredibly successful.

612
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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's funny, is right? You just brought

613
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 10: that up, and I just I don't know why I

614
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 10: popped up, popped in my head, but I just thought

615
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 10: of Tony Tungjie with the Buccaneers. If you guys remember

616
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 10: and how he like rebuilt the Bucks and they had

617
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 10: been a laughingstock. And you know, he won and won

618
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 10: and one with the Bucks, but they didn't get over

619
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Speaker 10: the top. And then did the opportunity to go get

620
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 10: John John Grutin and they did it and won. I

621
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Speaker 10: think that's the sort of thing that you're talking about, right,

622
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 10: like where the guy's done a great job, but like

623
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Speaker 10: do we need a new voice And I don't think

624
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 10: that exists there yet, but you know, because I think

625
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 10: Sean has done such a great job remaking the organization

626
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 10: and I mean it's easy to forget what they were

627
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 10: before twenty seventeen, but they hadn't been in the playoff

628
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 10: in eighteen years. But yeah, I mean like this is

629
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 10: like so you know, like they've sort of moved off

630
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 10: of the old group of players that they that they

631
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Speaker 10: that they won with with Josh Allen this quarterback, that

632
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 10: first group and some of those guys have come back

633
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 10: with your Davius White. But I mean, you guys know

634
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 10: all the names of the guys that were that that

635
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 10: went through there, you know, like a high Jordan Poyer,

636
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 10: you know, Steph Diggs, all those guys they won with,

637
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 10: and now they've got this young group that they've paid right, Like,

638
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 10: so they've paid Greg Russo, they've paid for l Bernard,

639
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 10: They've paid Khalil Shakir. You know, they they they've they've

640
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 10: they've sort of leaned in now on this younger group.

641
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 10: And this younger group is just getting off the ground

642
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 10: at Olivers in that group, you know, and and and

643
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 10: we'll see what they can do. I I certainly think

644
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 10: there does come a point eventually when if you're knocking

645
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 10: on the door and you're getting the AFC title games

646
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 10: but you're never quite breaking through, that those sorts of

647
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 10: questions get asked. And yeah, I mean like if if

648
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 10: Josh Allen has another m v P type of season

649
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 10: and they get to the doorstep and they don't win,

650
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 10: I'm sure people will be asking those questions. I don't

651
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 10: think internally they're close to that, there anywhere close to

652
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Speaker 10: you know, asking those sorts of questions of themselves, like

653
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Speaker 10: do we need to move on from Sean McDermott. But

654
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Speaker 10: certainly the pressure gets ramped up if if, if you

655
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Speaker 10: can't break through.

656
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Speaker 3: So Ab I have a question for you, because we're

657
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: doing these picks and we're going through the AFC, the

658
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: NFC picking division by division. One of the teams that

659
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: I struggled with was the Rams only specifically because of

660
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford's health the back issue that feels like it's

661
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: going to be a problem all year. When did this

662
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: first pop up? Because would they have given him the

663
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Speaker 3: contract they gave him had they known that his back

664
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Speaker 3: was in the shape that it was in going into

665
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Speaker 3: the year.

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Speaker 10: The back has been something that has bothered him for

667
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 10: a while, Like, I don't it's not new, like it's

668
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 10: I think it's an accumulation of damage would probably be

669
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Speaker 10: the best way to put it. And this is the

670
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 10: guy who took a lot of a lot of punishment,

671
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Speaker 10: you know, and over all the years in Detroit, and

672
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Speaker 10: so they have confidence in where he's at because of

673
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Speaker 10: his ability to work through other things, Like he had

674
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 10: some for a quarterback, like as extential type injury, you know,

675
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Speaker 10: he had like a wrist injury and elbow injury that

676
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 10: like those sorts of things where you're like, you know,

677
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Speaker 10: if you know the quarterback, And he actually admitted this

678
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 10: to me a couple of years ago, like that it

679
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 10: was I mean, the wrist injury was scary for him,

680
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 10: Like didn't know, like, Okay, what's this going to be.

681
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Speaker 5: You know, so.

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Speaker 10: He's worked through these sorts of things in the past.

683
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Speaker 10: The back has been an issue in the past, you know.

684
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Speaker 10: I think as much as anything else, I think I've

685
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 10: kind of explained this to you guys over the last

686
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 10: few weeks, is like they felt, like, you know, over

687
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Speaker 10: the course of the summer that if he's at like

688
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Speaker 10: eighty five or ninety percent with the back, well, there's

689
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Speaker 10: no need to be like firing any bullets in August,

690
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Speaker 10: especially when you have Jimmy Garoppolo who can come in

691
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Speaker 10: and operate the offense and practice at high enough level

692
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 10: where everybody's going to get good work in, right, So like,

693
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Speaker 10: let's leave those bullets in the gun and there's no

694
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 10: need to to to wear them out in August where

695
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 10: it could affect him in January and February. And this is,

696
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 10: as much as anything else, is about being able to

697
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Speaker 10: get him through the year and have him at the

698
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Speaker 10: highest level possible when you get to January and February

699
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 10: and you hope you're competing for a championship. So I

700
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 10: think it's just sort of where he is physically. I

701
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 10: think it's why, you know, It's why I like these

702
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 10: questions of retirement have come up the last couple of

703
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 10: years because there is a lot of damage that he's

704
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 10: taken on, but he's already fought through so much that

705
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Speaker 10: there's confidence that he's going to be able to do it.

706
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Speaker 10: And you know, it really hasn't affected him as far

707
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 10: as giving the Rams an elite level of play from

708
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 10: the position. So you know, I would never minimize it.

709
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 10: It's not me that's got the back issue here, although

710
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 10: I do have some problems in my own of my

711
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 10: own and my old age. You know, I like, I

712
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Speaker 10: just think like for him, it's it's it's something that

713
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 10: he's he's found to to deal with these things, and

714
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 10: you know, like they've got confidence that he can do it.

715
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Speaker 10: Doesn't mean it won't flare up, doesn't mean it won't

716
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 10: have to be managed, but but they have confidence that

717
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Speaker 10: he can deal with it.

718
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 4: All right, Albert, last one for me, we got to

719
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Speaker 4: get it from you. What's your super Bowl pick for

720
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Speaker 4: the season?

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Speaker 10: So I picked the Bills to beat the Rams in

722
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Speaker 10: the Super Bowl. So interesting that you guys brought those

723
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Speaker 10: two teams up. Typically, Yeah, I think I would just

724
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Speaker 10: and sometimes like when I make these picks. Brady, I

725
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 10: can be like a little bit of a prisoner of

726
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 10: what I saw during training camp, because you can kind

727
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 10: of if you've been doing it long as long as

728
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Speaker 10: I have, like you kind of get a feel for

729
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 10: the way people are talking about their teams, you know,

730
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 10: when you're talking with them outside, it's just the normal

731
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 10: rosy stuff. The two teams that really came off as

732
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 10: like being very confident where they were over the summer

733
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Speaker 10: to me with the Rams and the Broncos. And with

734
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Speaker 10: the Rams it was like this quiet confidence where it

735
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 10: was like, I'm not saying it, but like, this is

736
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Speaker 10: a really good group we have here, and DeVante Adam

737
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 10: looks dynamite, and they'll be a perfect compliment for Pooka.

738
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Speaker 10: And you know, our offensive line should be the best

739
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 10: since we've been here, and our defensive line might be

740
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 10: the best in football. So I think the Rams have

741
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Speaker 10: as long as Stafford can make it through, I think

742
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 10: the Rams have a really good shout to win the NFC.

743
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Speaker 10: And I and I would say this too, like even

744
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 10: if they were going to lose Stafford for two, three,

745
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 10: four games, there's a high level of confidence that Garoppolo

746
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 10: could step in and then Buffalo. I would just say this, like,

747
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 10: if you went to a Bill's practice like five or

748
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 10: six years ago, you'd be odd by some of the

749
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 10: things that that Josh could do, could do like running

750
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 10: around and making things happen and everything else. And there's

751
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 10: this breakneck way to how he practiced back then what

752
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 10: it was this time watching him, everything now looks so

753
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 10: easy to him, and everything looks so calm, and it

754
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 10: just looks like, I mean, I'm serious when I say this,

755
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 10: it look like child's play, Like he was just picking things.

756
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 10: I'm going to do that, I'm gonna do that, I'm

757
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 10: gonna do that. It was just so the idea of

758
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 10: him still having like all that physical ability in his

759
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 10: bag and he can just now he can sit back

760
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 10: there and pick someone apart too. I just I'd be

761
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 10: surprised if he's not, like, you know, the best player

762
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 10: in the league again this year. And I think they've

763
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 10: got all those young guys I mentioned all those young

764
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 10: guys that they've they've drafted and developed to replace the

765
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Speaker 10: guys who are out now. They've got so many ascending

766
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Speaker 10: players on the team. So I like the Bills to

767
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 10: break through the Rams to get back to the Super

768
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 10: Bowl and then the Bills to beat the Rams in

769
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Speaker 10: Santa Clara.

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Speaker 4: How about that?

771
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Speaker 5: There?

772
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Speaker 3: He is the great Alba Breer. See, so I guess

773
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Speaker 3: we did ask the right questions this time.

774
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Speaker 10: A yeah, bad and and I'm racking my brain right

775
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 10: now to see if I lost anything on the table.

776
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 10: I guess the only thing you guys would need from

777
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Speaker 10: me now is like an Ohio State grandblin. Pick right.

778
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: The topic. Do you like Ohio state money?

779
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 5: Right there?

780
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 10: I think I can get that one, right, I think

781
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 10: I can get that one night.

782
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, to go a bay to bring those buck guys.

783
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Speaker 4: Good luck, buddy.

784
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Speaker 3: He's the man at Albert Breer on x IS where

785
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: you can find him, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist

786
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Speaker 3: at the m m QB.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Ap, we'll do it togain next week.

788
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Speaker 10: All right, thanks guys. That'll be one.

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Speaker 2: There is Albert Breer with us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are brought to It's.

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Speaker 4: Great out there. He's great, thanks plumbus. Yeah, yeah, he's.

792
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Speaker 8: Been running a lot.

793
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Speaker 4: He looks, you know, slimmed down from when I saw

794
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: him before. He looked like he was in great shape.

795
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Speaker 4: Have a good time with the fan.

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Speaker 3: He spoiled his kids, though, Is that their first? I

797
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: think he mentioned it was their first?

798
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, the first, Yeah, the first.

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Speaker 2: Hard to match that one, by the way.

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Speaker 3: We are brought to you by the Home Depot, and

801
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Speaker 3: you know, Albert's kids got their first impression of college

802
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Speaker 3: football and it was a good one.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

804
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

805
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

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Speaker 3: All right, so throughout the course of the show, we've

807
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: been dropping our season preview picks on the NFL season.

808
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: It is time to conclude with the playoffs with the

809
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: super Bowl. It's the big grand finale here lead to

810
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: lap you take it away.

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Speaker 2: Quarterbacks through this. Who goes first?

812
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Speaker 11: Well, all quarterback is through it. But let's let the

813
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 11: quarterbacks start it off. Brady, who you got in your

814
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Speaker 11: playoffs scenario?

815
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Speaker 4: So, as I've talked about before, Tampa Bay from the NFC,

816
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Speaker 4: they get the buy. On the AFC side, it's Kansas City.

817
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: So playing off in the wildcard round, I've got the

818
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: Jacksonville bill Jaguars hosting the Baltimore Ravens. I've got the

819
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Speaker 4: Ravens winning that one. Then I've got the Buffalo Bills

820
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Speaker 4: hosting the Los Angeles Chargers. The Bills hold the home

821
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Speaker 4: field advantage, they advance, and the Bengals beating the New

822
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Speaker 4: England Patriots the seventh seed to advance. On the AFC side,

823
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Speaker 4: in the NFC, it's a home team sweep the Green

824
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Speaker 4: Bay Packers, they take down the La Rams, the forty

825
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Speaker 4: nine Ers take down the Atlanta Falcons, and the Eagles

826
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Speaker 4: take down the Washington Commandos moving on to the divisional round.

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Speaker 4: I assume and all the way through you, sir, okay.

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Speaker 4: In the AFC, We've got the Bengals advancing to take

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Speaker 4: on the Buffalo Bills, and I have the Bengals advancing

830
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Speaker 4: to the AFC Championship game knocking off Albert Breers Buffalo

831
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Speaker 4: Bills that he's got I believe winning at all. And

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Speaker 4: then on the other side, I've got Kansas City beating

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Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens. They get the buye they're at home.

834
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Speaker 4: We all know the track record Vandy Reid and the

835
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Speaker 4: Chiefs as well as their record versus the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: So unfortunately for the Ravens not able to do it

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Speaker 4: this year. On the NFC side, the Eagles hosting the

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Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine Ers. I got the Eagles being

839
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Speaker 4: able to hold the home field advantage winning as the

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Speaker 4: number two seed, and then the Tampa Bay Bucks coming

841
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Speaker 4: off that buy hosting the Green Bay Packers, the Battle

842
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Speaker 4: the Bays, But it's the Green Bay Packers who will

843
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Speaker 4: find their way through to take on the Philadelphia Eagles

844
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Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship Game. Championship Weekend, the number one

845
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Speaker 4: seeded Chiefs hosting the Cincinnati Bengals, and I've got the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs advancing. The Bengals just can't get over the top.

847
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Speaker 4: But a matchup that I think we'd all love to see.

848
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Speaker 4: I know I would love to see. And then on

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Speaker 4: the NFC side, the Eagles hosting the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 4: All the weight and the pressure of everything trying to

851
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Speaker 4: get back to the Super Bowl and repeats, but it's

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Speaker 4: the Packers, led by Michaeh Parsons Jordan Love finding the

853
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 4: way to the super Bowl. A matchup for the ages.

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Speaker 4: The Kansasity Chiefs taking on the Green Bay Packers in

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Speaker 4: Santa Clara. But I've got the Chiefs getting back on

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Speaker 4: top of the NFL, and mind you doing so with

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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 8: Performing at half time circle. You can't make this stuff up.

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Speaker 4: You can't make it up. Wins the Chiefs, Taylor Swift

860
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Speaker 4: back on top of the NFL. It's written manifested. If

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Speaker 4: you will, it's all gonna come together.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 4: You're really gonna do this Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I think that's uh.

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Speaker 3: And that was Super Bowl one and this is Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl sixty coming up, so on the sixtieth anniversary, a

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Speaker 3: repeat the first damn.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's impressive, very impressive, all right, Jonas, how about

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Speaker 11: you taking off?

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Speaker 4: What's your playoffs?

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Speaker 8: Sinner?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: So that was almost as impressive as this. Here are

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Speaker 3: my AFC playoff teams. I've got the Buffalo Bills winning

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Speaker 3: the AFC East. I've got the Bengals in the North,

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Speaker 3: the Texans in the South, and yes, I have the

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Speaker 3: LA Chargers the Bolts winning the AFC West. My wild

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Speaker 3: card teams out of the AFC are the Ravens, Steelers,

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Speaker 3: and Chiefs. But I've got Baltimore making a run as

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Speaker 3: a wild card team, finally getting over the hump and

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Speaker 3: getting into the Super Bowl over on the NFC. Who

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Speaker 3: will they play? They've got the Eagles winning the East.

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Speaker 3: They've got the Packers, the Falcons and forty nine ers

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Speaker 3: as division winners. Your playoff teams elsewhere as the wild

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Speaker 3: card spots are the Commanders, the Buccaneers, and the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 3: But only one can advance from the NFC to take

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Speaker 3: on the Ravens, and that one is Lee to lapse,

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Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers who go to Santa Clara to take

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Speaker 3: on the Baltimore Ravens, and the winner is Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: and the Baltimore Ravens who win the Super Bowl super

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Speaker 3: Bowl sixty. If you look at the logo, if you

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Speaker 3: look at the logo, you see some purple, you see

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Speaker 3: some yellow, and a little bit of green there. As

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Speaker 3: Lee likes to point out, the logo of the Super

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Speaker 3: bowls a predictor of certain Super Bowls. But I've got

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Speaker 3: Baltimore winning it all coming up in Santa Clara in February.

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Speaker 11: All right, two Packers making it to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 11: in both Brady and Jonas's brackets.

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Speaker 2: How about you, var who do you got in the playoff?

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Speaker 6: I hate when Jonas says the same things as me,

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Speaker 6: but I'll still say it. I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 6: I want to change it because Jonas doesn't get anything correct,

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Speaker 6: but maybe he gets it done here. I don't know

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Speaker 6: if I got Cincinnati into AFC, Buffalo, Houston and the

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Speaker 6: Chargers as divisional or conference division champion, excuse me. And

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Speaker 6: I have Baltimore, Jacksonville and Pittsburgh as wildcard teams.

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Speaker 5: I believe out of that Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Will end up playing Baltimore and Baltimore will win to

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Speaker 6: make it to the super Bowl. On the NFC side,

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Speaker 6: I have Philly, Tampa, Bay, Minnesota, and Arizona winning their divisions,

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Speaker 6: and I see Green Bay, Washington and the Rams being

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Speaker 6: the wildcard teams. Now, the teams that will emerge from

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Speaker 6: there will be Philly, and I do believe Green Bay,

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Speaker 6: but I believe that Philadelphia finds a way to win

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Speaker 6: and they advanced to the Super Bowl, and you have

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Speaker 6: a Ravens Eagles Super Bowl, and I had Baltimore actually

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Speaker 6: winning the.

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl sticks picks.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 6: I like it, man.

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Speaker 4: I think we had a nice little display of like

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Speaker 4: all the teams that could be in it, no one

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Speaker 4: picked Cincinnati will be in the Super Bowl, right, No No,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Man. As I was going through this,

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Speaker 4: it just it feels like it could be their year,

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Speaker 4: like bringing everything back, you know, the way they approached

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Speaker 4: the preseason. I don't know. Something feels like this could

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Speaker 4: be since his year.

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Speaker 3: I was either going to go Baltimore or Sincy, and

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Speaker 3: I was either going to go the Rams or the

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Speaker 3: Packers in the NFC. But Matthew Stafford, the Stafford back

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Speaker 3: thing concerns me so much. I'm not sure what to

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Speaker 3: make of San Frank because the roster is still there.

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Speaker 3: Just will Christian McCaffer be able to get back those

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Speaker 3: old ways.

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Speaker 4: It's hard for me to pick against Philly honestly, like

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Speaker 4: it really is, because I think Philly is so good,

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Speaker 4: but I didn't want to be too chalky with it,

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Speaker 4: and so I kind of threw green Bay in there.

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Speaker 4: But the Chiefs obviously. I just I think every single

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Speaker 4: year we get tired of looking at how doment they are,

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Speaker 4: how good they are, and then once we see them play,

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Speaker 4: we're like, oh, yeah, that's Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, all

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Speaker 4: this other stud players.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: You know what I realized, you know, I realized and

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Speaker 3: going through the picks last night I was like, in

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Speaker 3: this entire Chiefs dynasty, never one time if I picked

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Speaker 3: them to win the super Bowl or even go to

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I am, well, you're an underdog type guy. You know.

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Speaker 4: You don't like That's right. You don't like ever, you know,

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Speaker 4: picking a team that's a favorite, you know, the common man,

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Speaker 4: bottom of the barrel.

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Speaker 5: The common man.

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Speaker 6: You are far from common all Dracula, Damn, that's true.