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Speaker 1: How would you guys explain that to Indie? Well, that

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Speaker 3: Why why do they have to a break?

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Speaker 3: Now I think there'd be more. Now, I think there

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Speaker 1: What's a problem the chance of hit Iceberg? None? That's

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Speaker 1: great anyway, Welcome upon me the world. I'm Danielle Fishel,

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Speaker 3: Will you Just saying oops reminded me that it's my

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Speaker 3: So today we are recapping season five, episode two, Boy

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Speaker 3: The synopsis Corey turns the camera on the new roommates

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 3: Shocked at how many episodes are about Corey being a filmmaker, yeah, or.

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Speaker 3: And he also gets paid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Was this also the first time have we we

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Speaker 2: Let's see if you're in a good mood, you're in

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Speaker 5: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: I can't say that I hated it, but no, there

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Speaker 3: The second? I thought, Wow, me too, Phil Rosenthald. No, No,

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Speaker 3: him with Phyllis, but he'll still pencil her in Phyllis

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00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 3: and Janie.

441
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: He's also dating Mildred and Beatrice.

442
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: That would be.

443
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 3: Greatl is so funny. Then Jack walks in wearing a

444
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: large suit. Hey, brother, Sean, it's me Jack. Home from college.

445
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 3: Got an a and now they want me to teach Cory. Abruptly,

446
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: Yell's cut and lowers his camera and discussed, once again,

447
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 3: I'm shooting a documentary for Phoene's class. This exposition they

448
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 3: give him to set up what's happening there is shocking,

449
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean, is it? It is shocking that they were like, episode,

450
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: could you please deliver this naturally? You're going to recap

451
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 3: for your friends and who already know it exactly what

452
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 3: you're doing. It was like, really started the episode off

453
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: on an awkward foot. Okay, so he says, I'm shooting

454
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: a documentary for Phoene's class. It's just too soon. Eli Williams, rust, that's.

455
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: All I thought. You know, you had a teacher who

456
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: taught this. He had a great teacher that taught this subject. Yep.

457
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: Corey's trying to create something similar to MTV's The Real World,

458
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 3: but Sean and Jack need to be themselves to make

459
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: it work. Sean defends himself, my October really is full,

460
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: and Jack chimes in, I really did get an a

461
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 3: and then Eric walks in. He's carrying a surfboard and

462
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 3: wearing a wet Suit's up. Dudes got some major waves

463
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 3: downtown Corey is certain that's not real. The boys shrug

464
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: and get back into their starting positions. Then rock music

465
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: begins to play, and we see footage of the three

466
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 3: guys posed in their living room, acting as candid as

467
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 3: and casual as they can. Corey's voiceover begins this is

468
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 3: the true story of three new roommates. He introduces each boy,

469
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 3: who all emphasize how great this is and a very forced,

470
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: un natural tone.

471
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought will to read was awesome. He was

472
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: like just started off with his like over excited. Oh

473
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: my god. I was like, at least somebody's having fun.

474
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: He tried, he tried, I tried, you guys.

475
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's hard to overstate how big

476
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: of an influence the real world had culturally, right. I mean,

477
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: it's so taken for granted now. But I remember walking

478
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: in like a friend's house and seeing that people watching

479
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: the real world and being like, wait, what are You're

480
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: just watching these people sit around and talk in the environment.

481
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: And I remember it being like, how is this interesting?

482
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: And then didn't get up for an hour, you know,

483
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: because it was like you get sacked in. But now

484
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: we just we take it for granted because of course,

485
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: reality TV is a category of you entertainment that we

486
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: all just know and every and no one would ever

487
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: think twice. But back then, an unscripted group of friends

488
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: just talking was so compelling and so new, and it's

489
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: just it's so weird be watching this now because of course,

490
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: even even a show doing a documentary is just Parks

491
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: and the Office, modern family, Like this whole style is

492
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: not a style anymore. It's just television. And didn't start

493
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: with wasn't this right around the time of like Waiting

494
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: for Guffman and the kind a little later actually, but yeah,

495
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: I mean those movies were really like sort of cult hits,

496
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, like they didn't have mainstream success. The idea

497
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: of like a mockumentary was just not a thing in

498
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: the main stream.

499
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: I think it was probably only one at the time.

500
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Final No Waiting for Government had already come out, Like,

501
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, but that's like you're talking about a group

502
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: of filmmaking team that that's all that those those are

503
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: the only people doing it. And I like, I remember

504
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: I loved those movies, Ben and I used to quote

505
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: them all the time. But we were obsessed and and

506
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, the humor was just so dialed back and like,

507
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: but yeah, the Real World is becoming a thing. Like

508
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: it's so obvious that our writers were just freaked out

509
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: by it. Everybody was freaked out by it. We're all like,

510
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: this is weird.

511
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: What is this? You know?

512
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: But we do it next season two with the Truman.

513
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: Show up, we do a Truman Show episode the same thing. No,

514
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: they made the.

515
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 3: Real World cast may have been the most famous people

516
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 3: in youth culture for like three years. They were just

517
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: it was.

518
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: Everyone was the New York They started in New York, right,

519
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: that was the first one, and then they did like

520
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: La or San Francisco something like that.

521
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Eric.

522
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: Nice from The Grind, Yes, Oh you know what's so funny?

523
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: Last night Jensen went on like a full nose dive.

524
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: I don't know where he saw it, but for he

525
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: spent forty five minutes to an hour watching just clips

526
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: of Eric Nice on The Grind.

527
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, you might have to explain that a

528
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 5: little more.

529
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 3: Danielle, No, I'm going to I'm going to just leave

530
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: it there.

531
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, by can we can we also be very

532
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: careful with random celebrities that we're just saying in our

533
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: podcast because my.

534
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: God, somebody, that's what I'm saying.

535
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: I know, protect Eric nice at all costs. Now, how

536
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: did you? How did you go down that rabbit hole?

537
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: Jensen?

538
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 5: It was on my like for you page on Instagram

539
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 5: or whatever you call it follow and I opened it thinking, Oh,

540
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 5: this won't mean anything to me, and then an hour

541
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: later I'm like, I'm watching Montel Jordan performance spring Break

542
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 5: can't too Like. I just kept watching these clips over

543
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 5: and over and I forgot how much of an important

544
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 5: thing these like dance shows were to me.

545
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, so back to our documentary style. The style and

546
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: graphics are all very MTV's the real world. As Sean

547
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: tells the viewers why he moved in with his half brother,

548
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: we see footage of Sean and Jack awkwardly mingling in

549
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: the kitchen about cottage cheese, then an abrupt cut to

550
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: Eric doing fake pull ups in his room. He's trying

551
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 3: to convince us why Jack isn't competition when it comes

552
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: to the ladies. He's eight months older. Also, will you

553
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: look very skinny here?

554
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: I did look skinny in this episode.

555
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: This was so h This was I think the first

556
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: episode back after doing right. I was going to say

557
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: something whatever it is. I'm wearing the necklace that looks

558
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 1: like a coke spoon. That is, that's the necklace at

559
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: fourth lav and I wore. Yeah, so I wore one,

560
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: and she wore one on Party of five at the time.

561
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, I noticed that as well. And this was

562
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: the first episode I think we shot because the scene

563
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: where dance Jack Dan with the girls, that's the first

564
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: time I'd ever worked with Matt oh So that yes,

565
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: where you're very naturally swing dancing in the kitchen as

566
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: college boys do.

567
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: You can tell I mean in the late nineties, you did.

568
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: I know that's true.

569
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: I went to the parties at people's houses. You get

570
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: together and like learn how to swing dancing. It's so funny.

571
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: This is just a trendy episode. This is just like

572
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: the most nineteen ninety seven episode of World ever and

573
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: none of it resonates beyond exactly that year, that month,

574
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: and it just dies on the vine. I'm like, what

575
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: is what is interesting?

576
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: What is good about the nothing?

577
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Nothing about this resonates anymore.

578
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: Then we get on one on one with Jack. He's

579
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: holding a guitar as soft music begins to play. He

580
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: says Eric spends too much time looking at himself in

581
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: the mirror, when in reality, pretty babies don't like men

582
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: who were too interested in themselves straight up swingers. Then

583
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: on cue, he asks Corey to do that part over again.

584
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: He could give a better smile. We cut to Sean,

585
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: who's been continuously playing with a slinky. He hopes things

586
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: will work out with his brother, but he doesn't know

587
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: if there are anything alike. Then, also on cue and

588
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: a familiar move, he asks Corey to do it over again.

589
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: He could give more vulnerability. So then we pull out

590
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: from the footage and we're in Phoenie's classroom. Corey has

591
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: been playing the documentary on his TV.

592
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: Sorry going back when when Matt shows up with the guitar, ye,

593
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: like really invasive guitar music started like and then it

594
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: just kept going and then it started this trend. The

595
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: music the mix in this episode is so off, Like

596
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: it was so like when we go to Chubby's in

597
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: the next scene after this classroom, it was like, oh

598
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: my god, like it was so it's like they were

599
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: going for.

600
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: This MTV SyES. I think it was something.

601
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: And it's just weird.

602
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: It just threw me so far. I turn it down.

603
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: But then I couldn't hear the dialogue.

604
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on? Yeah, very strange episode.

605
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: We had an audio for this episode at all either.

606
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: I think this was all blocking out show without Yeah,

607
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: because we're hearing a lot of the handheld camera stuff.

608
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: So there's a lack of energy to you know what

609
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: comedy there is. It doesn't pop.

610
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: It just doesn't.

611
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: So he gets a round of applause from his classmates

612
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: and Phoene compliments him that was an excellent start to

613
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: his documentary. Corey is shocked. Phoenie thinks it's excellent. Mister

614
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: Phoenie actually believes this could be Corey's foot in the

615
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: door to a fine university such as NYU. Corey grabs

616
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: the VHS and tells Tapanga, this could be my foot.

617
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: And then this is where we see Angela for the

618
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: first time ever, sitting behind Corey. Just as Phoene asks

619
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: if anyone has any comments regarding Corey's documentary, and just

620
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: like that, Trina McGee aka Angela Moore shoots her hand

621
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: in the air. No offense, Corey, but your project looks

622
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: like you ripped off that show on MTV The Real World,

623
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: Corey robotically tells Angela that he has no knowledge of

624
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: what she's talking about. His only knowledge of the real

625
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: world is his real real world. The bell rings in

626
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: classes dismissed. Now in the hallway, Corey.

627
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: Has one blind that they're just established.

628
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: She says her name, and she has an opinion, and

629
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: she's not afraid to express it, even directly to his face.

630
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: And that's all we get for the characters world. Yes,

631
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: So in the hallway, Corey tells Tepanga he's feeling so inspired.

632
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: He hasn't even scratched the surface on this whole apartment situation.

633
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: You have Eric who's never been on his own, and

634
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: two brothers who haven't seen each other in years. The

635
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: possibilities are endless to Pangas surprised the guys are okay

636
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: with Corey sticking a camera in their personal lives, but

637
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: Corey assures her they're not just okay, delighted, giddy, But

638
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: he wonders where did he leave his camera anyway? And

639
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: then we cut to a sideway's angle of Eric back

640
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: at the apartment, smiling directly at the camera. How long

641
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: do I have to smile like this? Corey? Does Eric

642
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: think Corey's still there?

643
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

644
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: I thought maybe we could have used another button you

645
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: think something and something else. And then we go to

646
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: commercial and we come back to the guy's apartment. Correy

647
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: is still shooting his documentary as Sean laces up his

648
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: roller blades.

649
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: Very cool line, yeah strong.

650
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: He explains that Jack came from money, while he had

651
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: the charm of living in a trailer. However, he does

652
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: now enjoy being able to take a shower without having

653
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: to worry about a twister and I quote sucking him

654
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: naked through the roof.

655
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: Yep.

656
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: I thought those words together in that way were interesting.

657
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: To rewrite.

658
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: Could have used a little a little switcher roo or

659
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: a little punch. We cut to hear the door buzzer,

660
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: and then Sean running into the living room, now only

661
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: wearing a towel. Corey chases after him with his camera,

662
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: wearing a full yellow raincoat and hat ensemble.

663
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: It looks like the Gordon's Fisherman.

664
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: He does bear references perfect one of the better jokes

665
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: of the whole episode.

666
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: It was absolutely right. Do you remember having to be

667
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: in a towel for this? I do, Yeah, it was

668
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: very uncomfortable.

669
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, always.

670
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: And then I'm I was like, oh, and then I

671
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: kissing her like you know, I was just like right, yeah, no,

672
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: I remember being you know, and of course I had

673
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: to get wet, so like I'm backstage getting hosed down

674
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: with a little pump, those little fan pump things. And no,

675
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: you're also naked showering yourself in front of Corry using.

676
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: The shower with you. Sorry, weird weird visual visual.

677
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but it's just classic. Like I just

678
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: remember feeling so unattractive, and you know, like I don't

679
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: think I thought of myself as fat, but certainly not

680
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: like any like just not good looking. And now I'm

681
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: looking at it, going, dude, you're fun, you look great. Yeah,

682
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: get over it. But you know, but of course it's

683
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: just whatever your body is, you're going to be insecure

684
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: about it if you have to be naked in front

685
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: of you well or maybe not everybody, but I certainly

686
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: was back then. I still am now, Like the idea.

687
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: I don't even like being naked when I'm alone.

688
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not ever.

689
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean neither I shower in a bathing suit

690
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: when I'm hang alone.

691
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Me too, exactly.

692
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: I had to say, just kidding in case people are

693
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: like ew filthy person I shower naked. Sean angrily turns

694
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: to the camera. You go too far. Corey explains he

695
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: has a film to make and Sean agreed to do this.

696
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: Sean yells, you have five minutes of me in the shower.

697
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: You can't use that. Corey explains it's for the European version.

698
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: If he doesn't get into n YU, his next choice

699
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: is Sweden. Why you Sean then answers the door, still

700
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: half naked.

701
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: It's a cute girl.

702
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: Yes, they keep coming. Hold for your hold for your

703
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: laughs people.

704
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. It's a cute girl who smiles and

705
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: greets him. She's Wendy, their neighbor, and she stopped by

706
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: to say hi to Jack. Sean explains Jack isn't home,

707
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: and Corey whispers, drop the towel. Shawn is shocked, but

708
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: Corey doubles down. Drop the towel. Make it look like

709
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: an accident, but drop it. Wendy asks why is there

710
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: a strange boy? Is Paddington Bear with a camera and

711
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: we already commented that's a funny joke. Jo Sean explains

712
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: Corey's student film and says if it makes her uncomfortable,

713
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: she can just tell him to stop, but rather than protest,

714
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: when Wendy pushes her way into the house, she's an

715
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: acting major. Sean's eye.

716
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: Here we go.

717
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: She says she has two monologues, one of which she

718
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: wrote herself. It's called I'm a Little Unicorn. She adds,

719
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: I'm also very good at improv Corey urges Sean to

720
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: kiss her, and Sean is against this, but Wendy admits

721
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 3: I can do love scenes. I'm not afraid. The two

722
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: of them then kiss, and Corey gets the whole thing

723
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 3: on film. Sean Wendy both look impressed as they break apart,

724
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 3: and Wendy quickly writes down her number on Sean's hand, telling.

725
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 5: Her to come.

726
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: It's a number, Yeah, the number. We both went eight.

727
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: That's it.

728
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: Walks away, Okay, she is apparently Talla takes is one

729
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: and sorcelling kiss.

730
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

731
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: Corey turns the camera around and we see his out

732
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: of focus close face. She comes to see Jack. Sean

733
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: gets her number. The plot thickens, and then we're at Chubby's. Corey, Topanga,

734
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: and Sean are seated at a booth and Tapega asks

735
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 3: Sean how things are going with his brother. Corey cuts

736
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: him off. She'll just have to wait until the documentary.

737
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: Topanga asks if Sean is really okay with this whole

738
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: documentary thing. It sounds kind of personal. Sean admits that

739
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: it is, but Corey's his best friend and he trusts

740
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: him not to make him look bad. Corey's vision is

741
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: to show a side of Sean Hunter that no one's

742
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: ever seen before, the side that shows him overcoming all

743
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: the odds. And then Jack walks downstairs with the neighbor

744
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 3: horned up Wendy. Sean can't believe he snaked her. Corey

745
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: quickly pulls out his camera to get this all on tape.

746
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: Sean approaches his brother, and Jack happily greets him.

747
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Now that I can't believe that she might like somebody else.

748
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: It's just about him.

749
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: Him, him.

750
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: She came to see girl who I know the girl? Yeah,

751
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: she came to see him, though, I mean I.

752
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 3: Came to say hi to Jack.

753
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tried to snake her and she went back

754
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: to her original date. But now I got to go

755
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: talk to him about this.

756
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: Well, of course absolutely, Uh, Jack introduce her own agency, Now,

757
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: why would we do that? Jack introduces Sean to Wendy,

758
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: but Sean mentions that they've met. Jack's confused, even though

759
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: they live in the same apartment building, so Sean pulls

760
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: him into the pool room. Sean reveals he met Wendy

761
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: at the apartment while wearing half a towel. Jack met

762
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: Wendy through orientation. Wendy wrote her phone number down on

763
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 3: Sean's hand, but she did the same thing on Jack's

764
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: and guess what else, They've both kissed her, but Jack

765
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: mentions she also performed I'm a Little Unicorn for him.

766
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: Corey's slowly inching up and taping this whole thing. Sean

767
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: tells Jack they have a problem, but Jack disagrees. He's

768
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: on a date with Wendy and Sean's in the middle

769
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: of it. Valid Yep, Jack took her to dinner and

770
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: a Sheryl Crow concert. They're only at Chubby's for dessert.

771
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: Where did they eat dinner? La Bougia?

772
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, apparently they found another restaurant in I.

773
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: Know, do you think there's another one?

774
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: The attack on Mafia restaurant beat and those three restaurants,

775
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: that's it.

776
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: So it's one of those.

777
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: What if they ate dinner at Chubby's before the concert

778
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: and then went back to Chubby's for dessert.

779
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Well, but they also ate and then went to a concert.

780
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: What time is it.

781
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: It's got to be late, like midnight, right unless in

782
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: the nineties they were doing five pm concerts, like I

783
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: beg everyone to do now, Yeah.

784
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: Please start your concert at noon? Yeah, I don't. I

785
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: don't think that's happening.

786
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: I know it must be one am. Sean admits that

787
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 3: Jack won. He can't compete with dinner in a concert.

788
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: Jack says, it's not a competition. There was more to

789
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: this than Wendy, so he'll ask her to go home

790
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: so they can have some time.

791
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: It's not a competition.

792
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 2: It's like but then what were you guys just doing arguing?

793
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: Like holding up your hand?

794
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, kiss kiss.

795
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: It's like Jack, now you take the high road, right, See,

796
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: it was all a competition.

797
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: That was a whole competing right.

798
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: Yes, weird, very strange.

799
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Corey is still filming Tapega is trying to get

800
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: his attention, totally ruining his shot, but he's too distracted

801
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: with the content anyway. Sean apologizes to his brother for

802
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: interrupting his date and he storms off. Then we're back

803
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: in the guy's apartment. Jack now playing with this very

804
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: popular slinky.

805
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: Everybody loves the slinky.

806
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: It's just the greatest slinky ever.

807
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: Thank god we have a slinky.

808
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: Tells the camera that Sean and him aren't off to

809
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: a great start. We cut to Sean talking and throwing

810
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: his slinky on the ground. He admits this whole thing

811
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: may have been a mistake. Corey's more of a brother

812
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: to him. Then we cut to Eric in the laundry room.

813
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: I guess the joke is like that you just have

814
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: to have business like to make it look more casual.

815
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: But I feel like that could have been teed up

816
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: if Corey was the one being like, play with the slinky, yeah,

817
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: more slinky, like make it look natural or like or

818
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: the props kept changing. It's like it's a sink and

819
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: then it's a bigger slinky, then it's a paddle ball

820
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: or you know whatever. It's like obvious that we just

821
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: keep getting forced like that to do something. Yeah, yeah,

822
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: and being with like one of those horsey things. That's

823
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: just the stick with the horses, right exactly something?

824
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: What am I doing with this?

825
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 5: Just do it?

826
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, just do it. Yeah.

827
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: We got to Eric in the laundry room first time,

828
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: away from home about to do laundry on super here's

829
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: your real story. And I did think that was funny too.

830
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: I thought that idea that Eric is like, this is where.

831
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: The action starts. Yeah, laundry.

832
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: So then we are in the Matthew's kitchen. It's revealed

833
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: that Amy and Allan are watching this section of the

834
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: documentary on a little TV. Amy yells at Eric placing

835
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: clothes into the machine. Not in the hot water, it'll shrink.

836
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: Alan calls his son an idiot, urging Amy to cut

837
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: the cord, which shows that the end of season four didn't.

838
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: Really last long. It happened, it didn't matter much. Also,

839
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, is it the hot water in the washing

840
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: machine that shrinks it? Or is it the drying that

841
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 1: you both? It's both hot water, That's what I thought too.

842
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 3: It is also the hot water, I mean definitely a dryer.

843
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: But like if you're gonna if you don't dry something

844
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: in a dryer and you just wash it in hot

845
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: water and then you take it out and let it

846
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: air dry, it might still shrink just from the hot water. Really,

847
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: but the certainly hot water mixed with dryer is I

848
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: just do everything in cold water.

849
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, But I'm just curious of that. I thought it

850
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: was in the dryer. Okay, yeah, most are the things

851
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: I is thinking about.

852
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: This is important stuff. It was seriously going to like,

853
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: it's more interesting than the scene in front of me.

854
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm smart for always using cold water.

855
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: I am good.

856
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: I'm going to share it on the podcast watching the

857
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: show talk.

858
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: About the next thing.

859
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: I know the show doesn't shrink that it would be

860
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: like it was a wool sweater shrinks right or wool.

861
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: Like I don't definitely.

862
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: The first time you get that's something, but that's just natural.

863
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: But like after that, it's.

864
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: Not gonna like.

865
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, I agree. This is a visual gag

866
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: of Eric in the tight shirt. Though pretty funny.

867
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 4: It is pretty funny.

868
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 3: Morgan runs into the kitchen, pulling an older tall boy

869
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 3: in with her. This is Larry. He's Morgan's best friend,

870
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: Barbie's older brother, but she tells the family to call

871
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: him Eric. Larry or Eric says hi to mom and Daddy,

872
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 3: and Amy asks her daughter to explain. Morgan says, they

873
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: all miss Eric so much she decided to hire Larry

874
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 3: to be Eric. Corey thinks this is ridiculous, but Alan

875
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: wants to know if he likes to play basketball. I

876
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: thought that was funny too.

877
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh.

878
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: Then real Eric walks in wearing a shrunken, purple cropped

879
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: baseball tea, and he greets his parents, Mom Daddy. He's

880
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: completely unfazed. He walks to the fridge and jumps when

881
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: he sees Larry. Larry introduces himself as Eric, and Eric

882
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: introduces himself as Eric. The original Eric cheerfully welcomes the

883
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: fake version of him. Eric wants to know why Sean

884
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: can't get along with Jack. Corey says he'll talk to him,

885
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: but Eric urges him, you better get over there because

886
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: they're gonna kill each other. Corey grabs his video camera

887
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: and makes his way over to the guy's apartment.

888
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: I have an oddly shaped chest shirt, I do.

889
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: I have an oddly shaped chest.

890
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: Of spreeaking of body imagician.

891
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: It's just very yes, skinny the rest.

892
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: But I look like I got a little bit of

893
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: a congratulations. You got to go to the pump station,

894
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: my friends.

895
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm still wait for the address, so exactly.

896
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 3: Then we're in the guy's apartment. Corey and Tapega walk

897
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: out of the elevator and Corey is ranting about his future.

898
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: He's always felt so much pressure, but now that he's

899
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: found something he's good at, the pressure is off. Topeka

900
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: asks why he can't just put down his camera and

901
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: realize that his friend is in trouble. Corey huffs and

902
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: puffs about receiving pressure from his girlfriend now and they

903
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: walk in and Sean and Jack are in mid fight.

904
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: Sean's convinced that Jack is treating him like a charity case,

905
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 3: using his dad's money to pay for things. Jack defends himself.

906
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: He works every summer for his money, and he's paying

907
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: for school using student loans. That's a lot of money.

908
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: He works every summer for his money. What does he do?

909
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: He works for that mafia restaurant. He must make a

910
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: lot of money in that summer.

911
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: That's right, all his student loans have been forgiven.

912
00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: Oh that's Sean asks what he has against his real father,

913
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 3: but Jack explains that his father is the one who

914
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: raised him. He can't just have feelings for someone he

915
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: doesn't know Sean's size, neither can I. You can find

916
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: yourself another roommate. Sean storms out the door and Corey

917
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: manages to get this entire thing on tape. Topanga stares

918
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: into the frame now with her very own close out

919
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: of focus close up she loves Yeah.

920
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: So I mean like the whiningess is really just like

921
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: the death, like melodrama versus drama, right like that, Sean

922
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: is like the money stuff is pretty that's a good

923
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: starting place. But I don't even know what they're arguing

924
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: about money wise, when it's just the concept of money

925
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: that we're arguing or the concept of him being rich.

926
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: And then like yeah, mes storming off, It's just feels like,

927
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, you're looking for a fight, maybe because of

928
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: the originally because of the buried backstory, but since we

929
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: don't have any of that information.

930
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's that's what it is.

931
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: You guys are also in mid fight that we don't see.

932
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: So we walk in and you're like, you're trying to

933
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: buy fish, what what things? What happened?

934
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: What musn't get specific? Let's be about an actual argument

935
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: over something or something. Everybody's point is kind of understandable.

936
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: In this case, You're like, Sean, shut up. Jack is

937
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: totally reasonable, Like he doesn't you know, he's a nice

938
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: guy the same way.

939
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's also I kind of like that, and they

940
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 3: could have played it up a little bit more that

941
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: Sean has a real loyalty to his dad and you

942
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: could you could play that that that Jack says something

943
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: about his dad and Sean's like, oh yeah, because well

944
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: dad doesn't do that, and he's like, that's not the dad.

945
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm not talking you know, I'm talking about my dad.

946
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: That also is a good conflict, like, but they don't

947
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: it's not they don't ever use that enough.

948
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: No, I mean, this is going to be this is

949
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: going to be the problem for Sean for the next

950
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: And I think it's something that happened between me as

951
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: an actor and the writers. They they kind of got

952
00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: addicted to Sean as this sort of source of like

953
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: trauma and like very emotional trauma that isn't understandable, where

954
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 1: he acts irrationally and emotionally in situations where that can't

955
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: be and then you have to like dig in And

956
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: it goes all the way back to season one when

957
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: Corey gives Strawn his present and Sean is like upset

958
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: about it, and you're like, what's wrong with Sean? And

959
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: we have to like unearth the history of Sean. But

960
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: now it's just become this thing, this crutch where there

961
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: isn't enough actual situational drama. There's just the drama of

962
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: writer acting, you know, and it's just you watch me

963
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: sort of emote and then you're like what whoa and

964
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: it's not great. And unfortunately, I think this kind of

965
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: is the pattern for well, we'll see, because it worked

966
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: really well in season one.

967
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: It worked really well in season I.

968
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: Think, well, yeah, there are situations where there is a

969
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: situational drama and Sean reacts like weirdly or differently than

970
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: you expect, and that is the thing. But when the

971
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: entire source of conflict is Sean's emotional state, it becomes

972
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: that's all that's coming here, is there's no other reason

973
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: for there to be a conflict.

974
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: Except what's wrong with Sean.

975
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: And then it's like and then we just have to

976
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: get to the monologu where we find out.

977
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: And so it's it's hard.

978
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's hard for me to watch because

979
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: I just I remember as an actor feeling like I

980
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: had to like drum up intensity without conflict and drum

981
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: up reacting, you know, the old saying like acting is

982
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: reacting right, like, and Sean's always reacting to some sort

983
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: of uneasy internal state or past trauma that we don't

984
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: get clarity on until later, And it's just it always

985
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: I remember always feeling like I had to push things

986
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: or swallow them and run away, which is kind of

987
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: the two modes that I'm in this entire episode. It's

988
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: like I'm always like, you know, pouting and storming off

989
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: or you know, quietly like mumbling and emoting. I don't know,

990
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: It's doesn't make me.

991
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: Feel good to watch well where we go to a

992
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: tense commercial break and then we're in the hallway of

993
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: the guy's apartment to Panga is extremely upset with Corey

994
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: for ignoring what's going on here and instead hiding behind

995
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: his camera. I will say to Panga, a much better

996
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: friend de Sean than Corey right now?

997
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yep.

998
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: Corey tells her the point of the assignment is to

999
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: make a documentary. He compares himself to the guy who's

1000
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: making a nature film in Africa. He doesn't prevent the

1001
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: lion from eating the antelope. Instead, he lets nature take

1002
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: its course. Tapega agrees that as a filmmaker, he's probably right.

1003
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: She steps into the elevator as she continues, but as

1004
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: a friend, I guess We'll have to let nature take it,

1005
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: and the elevator door closes and cuts fast.

1006
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: Its elevator door in the history of that, but apparently

1007
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: sound proof room.

1008
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: You couldn't.

1009
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: You couldn't, and Corey yells, nature take It's what he's.

1010
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: Not only on television.

1011
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: Does anybody ever back into an elevator? Nobody in the

1012
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: real world ever backs into an elevator. Doesn't happen. You've

1013
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: never seen that in your life. Everybody turns and walks

1014
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: into an elevator.

1015
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it next time we're together.

1016
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: That's good point.

1017
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 3: Contact see you downstairs.

1018
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: The elevator to.

1019
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: The elevator together.

1020
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: She's literally repeating Corey's flast sentence. You can't finish it's

1021
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: a straight yeah, another strange choice.

1022
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: Then we're in the Matthew's backyard. Morgan is outside talking

1023
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: to Feenie as Larry sits next to her playing with

1024
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: a doll. Feenie understands that Morgan misses Eric, but she

1025
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: can't replace him by hiring Larry. Morgan explains that she's

1026
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: not trying to replace him, she just wants to miss

1027
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: her real brother less. Now, Morgan wants Phoeni to give

1028
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 3: him some advice like he'd always give to the real Eric.

1029
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: Feenie obliges run run like the wind.

1030
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: Very funny.

1031
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: And also I think the first time you ever see

1032
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Morgan and Feenie together. This Morgan and Feoenie together.

1033
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: Correct, we've never seen this.

1034
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: Before, and I don't think not just the two of them,

1035
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 3: but they've been in scenes, I think in the days.

1036
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: I think this is their first interaction they've ever had.

1037
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, where she's seeking him out. I didn't even think

1038
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: of that. Morgan and fake Eric walk back inside, passing

1039
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: and saying hi to Corey, who gives Fake Eric quite

1040
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: a glare. Corey starts making small talk with Phoene about

1041
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 3: his junipers, but his teacher knows better. Don't mock my garden.

1042
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: If you have a problem, just come out with it.

1043
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: I also thought this was a weird, like something that

1044
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 3: should be really comforting was started in a really antagonistic way.

1045
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: That was just like, I didn't think he mocked it all.

1046
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: He said, the junipers look nicest here.

1047
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: The junipers are coming along nicely. Don't mock my garden.

1048
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: If you have a problem, come out with it. And

1049
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking, like, oh good, we're gonna get

1050
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: a little scene that's gonna feel really comforting. Corey going

1051
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 3: to Phoenie, and instead it started off on a really

1052
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: antagonistic note.

1053
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: It's because Foenie hasn't hunted and killed in a while, exactly.

1054
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: His junipers are there's no.

1055
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: Multch, human mulch. He's going. He's ready.

1056
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: So Cory asks his teacher if he thinks he can

1057
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 3: be an excellent filmmaker, and Phoenie nods his project does

1058
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: show great potential. Corey is happy to hear that, but

1059
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 3: the problem is to Panga, she doesn't understand that the

1060
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: guy behind the camera has to stay behind the camera

1061
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: and not get emotionally involved. Phoenie knows this has to

1062
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: do with Sean and his new brother. He tells Corey,

1063
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: no matter how your film turns out, you have the

1064
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: potential of being a sensitive and caring filmmaker if you

1065
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: so choose. Corey's confused. Phoene says he knows this because

1066
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: Corey is a sensitive and caring person. He's interested to

1067
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: see how the story turns out in the end. Corey

1068
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: corrects him film and Feenie nods, right, film.

1069
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 2: Story versus film.

1070
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 3: I love it this.

1071
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: You know that read writer.

1072
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know, this whole episode is.

1073
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: About you know, it's all the it's all this like

1074
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: meta stuff, you know, like there's a fake Jack. I mean,

1075
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: there's all this like self awareness.

1076
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: The way you actually said story versus felt.

1077
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: But it's just like even even like you were saying,

1078
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, Corey going to Feenie for advice, it's like

1079
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: we're commenting on it the whole time, like we're doing

1080
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: that thing that we were just like, we know our

1081
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: TV show structure, and now we're gonna comment on it

1082
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: and make it okay that we're doing it.

1083
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: And it's like, just do it, Just do it, just

1084
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: be the show that you.

1085
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: Are, Like, I'm not sure, and if you're gonna comment

1086
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: on it, do it in a way that's like really clever.

1087
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: And instead it just feels like the characters are aware

1088
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know.

1089
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: The whole episode was really weird. It was just a

1090
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: weird I'm hoping it's a one off thing because it

1091
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: was just a very strange episode.

1092
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: All it's another episode, I guess ultimately also about the

1093
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 3: responsibility that people who create, people who put contents out

1094
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: into the world, the responsibility you have and you know,

1095
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: that's a popular it's a popular theme on our show.

1096
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 3: So we're back in the guy's apartment. Upbeat music plays

1097
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: as Eric and his swing dance partner, Wendy's roommate, are

1098
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 3: really going off. Meanwhile, Jack and Wendy are barely moving,

1099
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: swinging their hand side to side. Eric reminds Jack that

1100
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 3: these lovelies from three B just want to dance. Jack

1101
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 3: assures him he's dancing. Wendy admits that he doesn't seem

1102
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: to be enjoying himself. Eric assures her Jack is the

1103
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 3: type of guy who dances on the inside. Jack thinks

1104
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: they should call it a night, but Eric says no way.

1105
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: Wendy offers to do a comedic monologue to lift jack spirits,

1106
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: and Eric yells tomorrow, and he pushes the girls right

1107
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: out of the apartment. This is where you're saying, make

1108
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: a joke of her. Yeah, specifically, yeah, yeah.

1109
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: This is also the first time that Matt and I

1110
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: worked together, pretty sure it was the scene was the first.

1111
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah done.

1112
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: Not a great scene, my friend, No, very stiff and

1113
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: like it is so weird and like this moment where

1114
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: you like kick her out, okay, like you've been trying

1115
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: to get him to do. It's just happened so fast,

1116
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: and then like there's this moment the two of you

1117
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: don't even look at each other but just pick up

1118
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: the thing together.

1119
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: It's like soo, I was like, wow, look at that blocking.

1120
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: That's like you're not human at all, and you just

1121
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: like both are like in the zone of putting the

1122
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: apartment back.

1123
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: It was like what there was Also, even though we

1124
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: didn't know that this is the first time you're working together,

1125
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: watching it, there was a real like odd sense of again,

1126
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: you guys are now close and have a bond, and

1127
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: so you're his friend who's like giving him good advice. Yeah, like,

1128
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: you guys, even even though the last episode when we

1129
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 3: met him you were.

1130
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't get him, I don't like him.

1131
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: That's now gone and now you guys are like besties and.

1132
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: There's just no perspective on Jack's character. I mean, that's

1133
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: this essentral problem with this entire storyline is that they

1134
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know where to put Matt. They give Jack nothing, nothing,

1135
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: so he's just normal nice guy, normal nice guy. And

1136
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: then like you know, in this scene, will your Eric's

1137
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: not being weird or crazy, which is what they finally

1138
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: settle them right, like they finally are like, okay, what

1139
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: can we do with Jack? Will have him be the

1140
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: straight man while Eric does crazy things, and then that

1141
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: dynamic created chemistry. But like between me and Jack, there's

1142
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: no chemistry between you and him, and this scene there's

1143
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: no chemistry.

1144
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: Now nothing the interesting is happening. You're like, what am

1145
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: I watching?

1146
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I'm the one to go

1147
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: to yeah for the brother advice and oh, I'll.

1148
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: Get into the actual story and the advice when we

1149
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: get to it. So Jack admits the whole reason he

1150
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: wanted Sean to move in was so he could get

1151
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 3: to know him, but he doesn't think this brother thing

1152
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 3: is going to work out. Eric agrees with him, Jack

1153
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 3: can just walk away and then he and Sean won't

1154
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: be brothers. Jack seems to wholeheartedly agree, Yeah, what makes

1155
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: them brothers in the first place. Eric tells him a

1156
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: story about going to a Phillies game with Corey when

1157
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: they were kids. He was given the exact change for

1158
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: two hot dogs.

1159
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: This is the first This is the beginning of when

1160
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, how because the irony of mocking

1161
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: an actress for her unicorn monologue or wanting to deliver

1162
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: a monologue and then having an ep pisode with two

1163
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: very self indulgent monologues. There's being one, mine being the

1164
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: next one. I was like, how aware were our writers

1165
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: of that irony?

1166
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: Is that is that part of.

1167
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: The joke because it's really bad, like this is hot Yeah.

1168
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, oh wow, Eric's given a We're

1169
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: getting into a monologue.

1170
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: And then I'm later on like.

1171
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: Turn on that, kimra I got something to say. It's like, Gez, like,

1172
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: it's just bad, it's so heavy.

1173
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 3: What you're missing is that those were monologues told by men.

1174
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to do your monologue, actress. Yeah, regardless of

1175
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 3: whether you're an actor or an actress. It is if

1176
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: you are a woman, we want to hear what you

1177
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: have to say.

1178
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: Probably not, that's just talking too much, but as man,

1179
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: if we all want everything is an interesting backstory, yeah

1180
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: and meaningful.

1181
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: So he was given exact change for two hot dogs,

1182
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: and he realized too late that he ate them both,

1183
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: prompting Corey to cry. How old was Corey in the

1184
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: situation and were they alone? I'm trying to really understand

1185
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 3: the story, But okay, moving right along. Jack comments this

1186
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: is very sad, and Eric admits, oh, that was the

1187
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: happy part. Eric says he then went up and down

1188
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: every aisle trying to collect money from people so he

1189
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: could buy Corey another hot dog. When he returned with

1190
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: a hot dog, Corey was so happy and that made

1191
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: Eric so happy. Then Eric ends the story by saying

1192
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: Corey got hit by a foul ball and it knocked

1193
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: him unconscious before he could eat the hot dog. Jack

1194
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: admits that, next to Wendy's unicorn monologue, that is the

1195
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 3: worst story he's ever heard. Eric laughs, it is a

1196
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 3: bad story. He asks Jack to tell him one about

1197
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: his brother Jack's eyes, realizing he doesn't have one. And

1198
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 3: so now you just told him a story knowing he

1199
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: doesn't have any stories about his brother, just to make

1200
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: him feel bad.

1201
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: Knowing his story and not knowing it. And also the

1202
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: acting in the monologue was not good. Me trying to

1203
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: explain the story was not good. It was all it

1204
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: was the it I was Obviously, I had been gone

1205
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: for months at this point, shooting something else, and I

1206
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: got thrown back in and I can see that where

1207
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm on bloy me thriled again, right,

1208
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: And it just I didn't know Matt this is now

1209
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: the new guy in the thing.

1210
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: It was just awkward. This episode was awkward.

1211
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I thought as good as the fake Eric was, it

1212
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: was out. I just didn't land it, didn't know everything.

1213
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: It was weird.

1214
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: There was a there's a version of that fake Eric

1215
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: storyline that is very and there are some good beats

1216
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: in it, like I like Phoene saying Ron, you know

1217
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: there's and you saying Hi Eric.

1218
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: You know, like there's been there, but.

1219
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: Over You're You're just kind of like, wait, where's this going?

1220
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: Where I don't.

1221
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: It's they're trying to get Feenie in and Feoenie with

1222
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 2: the new.

1223
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: Funny because when we had Matt on and he was

1224
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: talking about what a rough first couple of weeks it

1225
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: was for him, and you know, he's given Michael a

1226
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: lot of credit for, you know, being really hard on him.

1227
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: And it's now that we're watching it and I'm actually

1228
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: realizing what they get him. It's it's hard to know

1229
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: that they were making it about Matt needing to have

1230
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 3: some sort of that it was a performance issue, rather

1231
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: than the fact that it was an absolute lack of character.

1232
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's coming in with no yeah, And I do think.

1233
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: What we talked about in the first episode is that

1234
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: they are overly protecting this character from having anything unlikable.

1235
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even the first time we really see him

1236
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: in the apartment, this time it's Sean going like, hey,

1237
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: so you eat and cottage cheese, you like cotta cheese,

1238
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, that's it, Like why not have

1239
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: him like yeah, I do, I really like it you

1240
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: and You're like no, and it's like, oh, now they

1241
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 1: have nothing to talk about.

1242
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: But he didn't even try. It's like yeah, and it's

1243
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: like okay, well then how.

1244
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: Does that what's what's happening? What's happening.

1245
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: I also think that the button to Eric's story could

1246
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: have been maybe more impactful had it been something like

1247
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: it might be a sad story, but something about I

1248
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: even cherished the sad stories that are not my brother,

1249
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: that like, having a sad story is better than having

1250
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: no stink.

1251
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: If they had written this this beat a season later, right,

1252
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: I know exactly how it would go, which is that

1253
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: Eric tells the story as if it's the most important

1254
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: thing in the world, and Jack goes, what's the point

1255
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: of the story, and Eric goes, oh, I don't know,

1256
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: and then it's funnier, and then it's like, what is

1257
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: the point of the story. And then Jack comes to

1258
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: the realization despite Eric's crazy goofy rambling, he comes to

1259
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: the conclusion and decides what he's going to do, and

1260
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: Eric says, see, I knew I had a good reason,

1261
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: you know. And then but instead they're like, still haven't

1262
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: found that dynamic yet. So Eric is actually giving good

1263
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: advice with that bad So what's the point of the story.

1264
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: This point of the story is always bring money for

1265
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: hot dog exactly. The point of the story is, yeah,

1266
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's like so ridiculous that then Jack's

1267
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: like squinting and going, I don't I don't know if

1268
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: that's what you think it means, you know, And then

1269
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: it would be yeah, but they don't. They don't even

1270
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: give him that perspective because they don't want him to

1271
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: judge Eric yet, which judging Eric is the comedy that

1272
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: they find with Jack.

1273
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, then we're on the streets of Philly a

1274
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 3: big like new exterior set alert.

1275
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: Which is the Seinfeld in New York Street, is it?

1276
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a resours opening moved to Radford, and

1277
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: so this is our first season at Radford, and so

1278
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: we started taking advantage of that standing set. They built

1279
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: that entire street for Seinfeld specifically, and and we got

1280
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: to use it when we could. And of course, like

1281
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: any good nineteen forty sitcom, you throw a kid on

1282
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: the corner with a tennis ball and then you got it.

1283
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: There you go like I was just waiting, I was

1284
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: gonna say, it's a Newsy cap ball.

1285
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: Exactly, just hanging on the corner with your tennis ball

1286
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: like you do.

1287
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: I mean, my husband, as an only child, did regularly

1288
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 3: throw a tennis ball into the air. That was like

1289
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 3: a regular halftime for a like regular pastime for him.

1290
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: But again, the irony of we made made this slinky

1291
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: joke like giving somebody and that here's Sean with his

1292
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: tennis ball giving him monologue. It's right, he's gonna punch

1293
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 1: in the mush, like, what the hell's happening.

1294
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: So Corey walks up as Sean's bouncing a ball on

1295
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: the sidewalk, look at the documentary. Man here in South Philly.

1296
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: Corey looks around. I haven't been here since you moved

1297
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: to the trailer park. Sean reveals that Jack lived here too,

1298
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: even though he's probably forgotten. He tells Corey to start

1299
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 3: filming so they can finish his movie. So wait, I'm

1300
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: just realizing, did you guys live here together? And how

1301
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: it says when you were seven you found out you

1302
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: had a brother and you wrote to him. It says,

1303
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: though you guys had never met.

1304
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: Well, I think he's older. So he lived here. He

1305
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: was there I was born, maybe got it. And then

1306
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: I was born and he left before Dad's apartment.

1307
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: He was taken to me. I was four, okay, and remember.

1308
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: Where is Eddie? Your other brothers that we've established.

1309
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: Forget about Eddie. That was I will for that episode. God,

1310
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: it's not convenient.

1311
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: Somewhere it's still straightening her hair.

1312
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 3: And then Sean tells Corey to start filming so they

1313
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: can finish his movie. Corey says that's not important anymore,

1314
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: and Sean counters it is to me. I've got something

1315
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: to say. Turn it on. Corey hesitantly starts recording. I

1316
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: was seven when my dad first told me I had

1317
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: a brother. I always wanted a brother. When I was ten,

1318
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: I finally got the courage to write Jack a letter

1319
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: telling him all about me. I didn't get an answer,

1320
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: but I kept writing to him because he was my brother.

1321
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 3: Sean says he must have sent fifteen letters to his

1322
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 3: brother and he never heard back. He wanted nothing to

1323
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 3: do with him then, and he wants nothing to do

1324
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,479
Speaker 3: with him now. Right on time, Jack walks up behind him,

1325
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: missing it's missing a real opportunity for another. He's behind me,

1326
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: isn't he? And Jack says he never got any letters.

1327
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: His mom must have thrown them out. Shawn doesn't believe that.

1328
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 3: He thinks Jack has always been a shit him. Sean

1329
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 3: begins to storm away, but Corey stops him. He needs

1330
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 3: to listen to what his brother is trying to say.

1331
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 3: Sean tells him not to get in the middle of this,

1332
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 3: but Corey says, the problem is he didn't get in

1333
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: the middle of this from the beginning. Even though he

1334
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: was there with his camera, he didn't realize what was

1335
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: going on. He tells Sean to give his life a

1336
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: happy ending. Sean asks his brother, did she really throw

1337
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 3: them away? Jack reiterates he never got them. If he

1338
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: would have known Sean had wanted to see him, he

1339
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 3: would have gotten on a bus and found him even

1340
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 3: a ten You.

1341
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: Know what's so funny? Is that I remembered parts of

1342
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: the scene because it was really me and Matt. I

1343
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: think this was the first time we worked together because

1344
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: we shot this episode first for the season. But my

1345
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: memory is in front of is in the backyard, in

1346
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: front of Phoene's garden basically, and it's because we would

1347
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: have done the run through in all the rehearsals on

1348
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: our store, so that was where we were pretending were outside,

1349
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: and then we only went to the actual set on

1350
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, elsewhere on the state on the lot for

1351
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: actually shooting. And we also had to reverse sides once

1352
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: we got to the state, like so in my mind,

1353
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: like it's completely reversed and we're in the backyard. So

1354
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 1: it's so weird to have that experience of like having

1355
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: never watched the show and be like, oh, my memory

1356
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: is you know, the the eight times that I did

1357
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: it during rehearsal, so I have that memory. The actual

1358
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: shooting day was actually, you know, only an hour of

1359
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: my life, so I don't remember that as clearly. So

1360
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: watching it is like.

1361
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, clarify that for our dear listeners. So when you

1362
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: have a swing set that or you have an area

1363
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: where you're only in this case It wasn't a swing

1364
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: set for us. It was an exterior on the lot.

1365
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: We weren't going to for rehearsals or run throughs. We

1366
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 3: weren't going to trek all the way over there. It's

1367
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 3: a full production move, So we would have just picked

1368
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: a spot on our current existing set. And because the

1369
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: backyard side yard is the exterior during rehearsal and run through,

1370
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: we would have pretended that that set was this set.

1371
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 3: So you literally were only there, like you said, for

1372
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: probably the hour or so it took to shoot the scene.

1373
01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 4: Oh that's so weird.

1374
01:04:59,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1375
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: Where is it supposed to be?

1376
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be in front of Sean's old apartment

1377
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: downtown Philly. Yeah, and he went there for nostalgia reasons.

1378
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 1: Why did Corey go there? And then why is Jack there?

1379
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: Hmm? Sean went there because he's reminissings and remissing about

1380
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: who never wanted him.

1381
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: Corey maybe knows where Sean's going to just feel his friend, Yeah.

1382
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeh knows where it is?

1383
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: Breadcrumbs?

1384
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 5: And can I ask the question that I took it as, Yeah,

1385
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 5: you're bringing up so is it just the neighborhood that

1386
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 5: he's talking about? And not the apartment.

1387
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: No, you can see the apartment wanted signed like they

1388
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: really clearly wanted to make agree.

1389
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 5: But is he saying that they've lived in the neighborhood

1390
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 5: not the apartment, Like, is that is that a possibility

1391
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 5: of being like, I haven't been here since.

1392
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: That even weirder than how would they know where to

1393
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: find him?

1394
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, because.

1395
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 3: Says I haven't been here since you moved to the

1396
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 3: trailer park.

1397
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: So he's in front of you.

1398
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: Just says, yeah, I know, I never got any letters, buddy,

1399
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: like and so it's I just never got it was like,

1400
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: how did wait, how did Jack get there?

1401
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: Corey? I guess the point.

1402
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: Is that Eric's story motivated Jack to try and find.

1403
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 3: Sean, and so maybe Jack followed Cory and Corey suspected

1404
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: he knew where Sean was, so Jack but.

1405
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: He came from the other direction.

1406
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: Well, he's been spying, so he had to find out

1407
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 3: good hiding spot. He crossed the street and when.

1408
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: We had he had the keys to the binocular cabinet,

1409
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: so he was able to grab the binoculars and followed

1410
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: Jack exactly, I mean, are we is this a contender

1411
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: for like maybe the worst episode of Boymate's World. I

1412
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but for me it was I

1413
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: really didn't like this me neither. Man, I'm happy and yeah,

1414
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: and like it's got logic.

1415
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: Problems that it's really messy.

1416
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: It's really and then it's just not entertaining either, Like

1417
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't mind messy if you're funny or clever whatever,

1418
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: but it's just not and it's a yeah.

1419
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: And I've also there have been times where at least

1420
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: an episode has been very emotional or heartstring tugging, and

1421
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: I go, well, it may not have been super funny,

1422
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 3: but boy, I feel I feel inspired after it. This

1423
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: was didn't have any of those.

1424
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: Or or it's or it's a fan heavy favorite favorite

1425
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: like cult fiction where maybe there's some problems with it

1426
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, wow, Sean joined a cult in an hour,

1427
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: but it mattered to the world and it was really

1428
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: whereas this one, it's just kind of like this was

1429
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: just bad.

1430
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a gimmick, like it's a real world gimmick

1431
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 3: and it just.

1432
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: Didn't and it didn't land at all, didn't work.

1433
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: Sean's surprised, and Jack points out, I found you now,

1434
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: didn't I Sean size, saying all he ever wanted was

1435
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 3: a brother. Jack Nottson tells Sean, well, he's got one.

1436
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: Two.

1437
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 3: Jack pulls in for a hug, and Corey watches, which.

1438
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: She already said in the first episode brother, and it

1439
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: was like we already had this.

1440
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: Moment where it's like, you've got a brother now and Sean.

1441
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. But the difference is there's a hug now,

1442
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 3: all right, you know there's a difference. It has hope.

1443
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 3: The first one had hope too, but this one has

1444
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: a hug.

1445
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1446
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: So then we're back in the guy's apartment. Jack yells

1447
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: at Sean to clean up his mess. He even goes

1448
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 3: so far as to call his brother a pig. Sean

1449
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: pretends to be offended, but we cut to a one

1450
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 3: on one interview and he smiles at the camera. My

1451
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 3: brother just called me a pig. I think this might

1452
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 3: work out. We cut to Jack's one on one confessional

1453
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 3: and he says he and Sean went out for hot

1454
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 3: dogs yesterday. Not much of a story, but it's a start.

1455
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: We reveal that Sean is sitting right next to him.

1456
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 3: The two boys smile into the camera. They are officially brothers.

1457
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: What my time machine would be go back and make

1458
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: this an episode where Sean is so excited to have

1459
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: a brother at the beginning of the episode, so he

1460
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: asks Eric to train him how to be a good brother,

1461
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: and then a whole lot bit or like are you

1462
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: like Sean and Eric decide to do pranks on Jack

1463
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: because he's trying to be brotherly and it just completely misfires,

1464
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: or just making Shan into the worst like little brother

1465
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: possible and then like backfires, and then you could have

1466
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: the drama come out at the end and be like, well,

1467
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: I was just trying to be a brother because I

1468
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: didn't know how to and I want you. Whatever could

1469
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: have been funny, and.

1470
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 3: It also would have tied into the idea that you

1471
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 3: were like, see, I'm trying and you're rejecting me, just

1472
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: like you did fifteen years ago.

1473
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: Boom.

1474
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1475
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. But if it had been Shenanigan's in comedy up

1476
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: until that point, then it would have been great.

1477
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this episode would have been good without any

1478
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: of the real world shtick.

1479
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah kill me.

1480
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: That would have helped.

1481
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: It's also a shame that this is Trina's first episode ever.

1482
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: I mean, she becomes such an important part of the show.

1483
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: This is why we we think her first episode is

1484
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: the first episode. Yeah, because we've all just erased this

1485
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: episode from our memory. Yeah yeah.

1486
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 3: While we're in the tag we see new scenes from

1487
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 3: the documentary. Back in Corey's cam quarter POV. We're in

1488
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 3: the laundry room. Eric stares at the dry are fascinated.

1489
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 3: They go round and round and that's what drives them.

1490
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: And then we're in the Matthews backyard. Glum Larry is

1491
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 3: standing by the back door. I could have been a

1492
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 3: good Eric. I wasn't given a chance. We quickly cut

1493
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 3: to Morgan, who admits he wasn't as good of an

1494
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 3: Eric as he thought. He coasted, took the job for granted.

1495
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 3: In the Matthew's kitchen, Amy reveals we couldn't tell Morgan this,

1496
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: but he stole. Alan pulls out her stuffed bunny. We

1497
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 3: found this in his backpack.

1498
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: That's funny.

1499
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: Mm hm all stealing like he's actually stealing from the

1500
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: family the whole time.

1501
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: That could have been funny, could have been funny.

1502
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 3: Now we're in Phoenie's yard. Phoene kind of whispers, I'm

1503
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 3: thinking of putting my house up for sale. I thought

1504
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: once the kids got older things would quiet down, but

1505
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 3: it just gets weirder.

1506
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: Great joke.

1507
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeahm hm, that's great joke.

1508
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: And now nearby in the Matthew's backyard, Corey films himself.

1509
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: I had a meeting with the people at Disney. They

1510
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 3: are very interested in my film. They're talking three picture deal. Personally,

1511
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 3: I think I'm I Personally, I'm thinking about going the

1512
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 3: independent route, maybe the Sundance Film Festival. And then we're

1513
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: back at the guy's apartment. Eric, Seawan, and Jack are

1514
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 3: all posed in the living room again, smiling at the camera.

1515
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 3: We hear Corey from behind the camera. This is the

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Speaker 3: story of Jack, Sean and Eric, three new roommates. They've

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Speaker 3: been through a lot and they've made it. Now nothing

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Speaker 3: will tear them apart. Eric tells Sean, you're breathing loud again.

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Speaker 3: Sean gets defensive, so I'm a loud breather. Jack asks,

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Speaker 3: why can't you breathe more like me? Corey admits, what

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Speaker 3: do I know? And we fade to black. Well, that

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Speaker 3: was an episode.

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Speaker 1: Was an episode.

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Speaker 3: We watched it, we got.

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Speaker 1: We did, we did, and hey, it can really only

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Speaker 1: get better after that episode, right right?

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Speaker 2: The only way to look is up.

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Speaker 3: Thank you all for joining us for this episode of

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Speaker 3: Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on

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Speaker 3: Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us your

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Speaker 3: emails at pod Meets Worldshow at gmail dot com, and

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Speaker 3: we have.

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Speaker 2: Merch mar I'm sorry, I just did it badly. Is

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Speaker 2: that wrong?

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Speaker 4: It's good.

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Speaker 3: Join us for our next episode recap, which will be

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Speaker 3: season five, episode three. It's not you, it's me. I

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Speaker 3: have absolutely no idea what that eupisode? I'm out none,

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Speaker 3: man't wait. It originally aired October seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 3: Will send us out.

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Speaker 2: We love you all, pod dismissed.

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Speaker 1: Podmets World is nheart podcast producer and hosted by Danielle Fischel,

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Speaker 1: Wilfordell and Ryder Strong executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman,

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Speaker 1: Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,

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Speaker 1: Tara Sudbaksh producer, Maddie Moore, engineer and Boy Meets World

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Speaker 1: super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle

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Speaker 1: Morton of Typhoon and you can follow us on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Podmeats World Show or email us at Podmeats Worldshow

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com