1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is Latino USA, the Radio Journal of News and 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Kurturre Latino USA. Latin Latino USA. I'm Maria Inojosa. We 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: bring you stories that are underreported but that mattered to you, 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: overlooked by the wrestling media. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: And while the country is struggling to deal with these. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Week listen to the stories of Black and Latino Studios 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: United Latino Front, a cultural renaissance organizing at the forefront 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: of the movement. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm Maria Inojosa. 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: I think that the most important thing to combat this 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: information and misinformation is learned to use or improve your 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: skills and critical thinking. Your skill is about how I 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: consume the information, because a lot of information is available 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: to everybody, but nobody teach you how to consume that. 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: From and PRX, It's Latino USA. 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm Mariao Josa. 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Today this informacion how to combat disinformation in our Spanish 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: speaking communities. It's a new episode in our election year 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: series The Latino Factor. 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: How We Vote. 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: For decades now, every new election cycle in the United 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: States brings with it disinformation campaigns. There are plenty of 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: dubious videos out there that would have you believe US 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: election officials really are up to something. 25 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: Tech companies are struggling to curb the spread of misinformation 26 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: and disinformation this election year. 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: Election interference and targeted disinformation campaigns on voter fraud are 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: a real threat in the upcoming US election. 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: And studies have shown that Latinos are more likely to 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: consume and share misinformation. 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: We understand and the Spanish speaking communities are more vulnerable 32 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: to this information because of the lack of reliable sources, 33 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: because the platforms are not doing the same effort that 34 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: they are doing in English to moderate or monitor this 35 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: information in Facebook, Google, due to of etc. 36 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: That's the voice of journalist Tamoa Calsadilla. Damoa is the 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: editor in chief of fact check Yado, which would be 38 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: this Spanglish way of saying something is fact checked. You know, 39 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: fact check yado And for those who are not too 40 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: familiar with what fact checking means, it's the process of 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: verifying the accuracy of any information that a politician, journalist, commentator, 42 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: or really anyone presents as fact to the public. The 43 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: rise of disk and misinformation has pushed many news outlets 44 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: to make fact checking part of their editorial processes and 45 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: led to the creation of independent organizations like fact ce Ciallo, 46 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: which combats disinformation, specifically in Spanish speaking communities in the US. 47 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: For Dama, a former investigative journalist with more than thirty 48 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: years of experience, truthful and reliable journalism is vital, and 49 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: this goes back to her own experience working under a 50 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: repressive regime in Venezuela, the country where she was born. 51 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: We endure difficult times over there because we published investigations 52 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: against the government the regime, about corruption, about political prisoners, 53 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: about violations of human rights. And I was censored when 54 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: I intended to publish that kind of investigations with my team. 55 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, her husband, himself a photojournalist, was detained 56 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: by military groups while he was on an assignment with. 57 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: My husband in jail. A lot of people, a lot 58 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 3: of friends and colleagues, say the same thing. You have 59 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: to leave Venezuela right now. You have to come to 60 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: the United States. You are in danger. 61 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: But Tamoa couldn't accept the idea of leaving her work 62 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: or Venezuela. 63 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: I had one response every time I said, I want 64 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: to be a journalist, and I don't know if I 65 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: could be a journalist in another country. I don't speak English. 66 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: She had no choice. 67 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: One year later, I was landing in Miami, Florida with 68 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: my suitcase, my two children, and my husband to become 69 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: an immigrant in the United States. 70 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: And as Tamoa found a new home in the US, 71 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: she also found a new calling as a journalist, leaving 72 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the first Spanish language fact checking organization in the United 73 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: States eight based at Univision and its name is El Detector. 74 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: I became a fact checker during difficult times for the 75 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: United States and for immigrants because it was during an 76 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: electoral campaign, first twenty sixteen. 77 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: From the Wall to mass deportations, to a temporary Muslim 78 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: band with extreme Vedic. 79 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: Rather right, and then twenty twenty when we had elections, 80 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: but at the same time COVID nineteen pandemic around the world, 81 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: journalists find themselves debunking wild claims. 82 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: You need to microwave your. 83 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: Mail to kill the COVID nineteen virus. In twenty twenty two, 84 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Tamoa joined fact check Jado, a project of two organizations 85 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: that had ten years of experience of fact checking in Spanish, 86 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: one from Argentina, the other from Spain. Fact check Yado 87 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: has a website and social media channels where they publish 88 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: their investigations, but they also have a WhatsApp number where 89 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: anyone can send a message or image that they find suspicious. 90 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: I'm so happy to serve my community Latino communities to 91 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: Spanish speaking communities, people like me struggling with the language 92 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: and other issues. 93 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: In this episode, Tamoa is going to share how this 94 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: information works and she's going to offer some step by 95 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: step advice on how to combat this disinformation in our communities. 96 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: So now here's Tamoa Calsavilla in her own words. 97 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: Misinformation is when it's not clear about the intention to 98 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: deceived people. But this information is when you detect that 99 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: this content is just spreading with the intention. 100 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: Of the sive people. 101 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: In South Florida, we have a situation with radio stations. 102 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: People here listen to radio shows with host conservative hosts 103 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: that spread a lot of this information and opinions through 104 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: the people are hearing many kinds of this information. In 105 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: this radio show, one tho. 106 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: As a scenarian bardy of policias. 107 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: At the same time, they are going live in Facebook 108 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: or due to the people spread that in social media, 109 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: in acts in other platforms and social media group this 110 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: egos to hear the comparison between socialist dictator shifts in 111 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: Latin America with the Democratic Party representat presidency of. 112 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: Going to say that. 113 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: They speak about situations that never happened, and the people 114 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: are confusing because it's complicated. The politics is complicated. One 115 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: of the things that I figure out when I began 116 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: to do this kind of work is that we had 117 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: to prepare journalists and train people to do fact checking, 118 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: but not traditional for checking fact checking. To serve Latino communities, 119 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: you have to be bilingual. You have to understand and 120 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,119 Speaker 3: interview in English, but you have to write and explain 121 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: that in Spanish. But Spanish is not a monolithic language. 122 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: We have Spanish from Venezuela and bring you from Puerto Rico, 123 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: and different ways to name the same thing. At the 124 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: same time, you have a lot of people with different 125 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: approach to the political issues, to different cultures, struggling with 126 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: a lot of things and raising children and trying to 127 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: do the best in this country. We understand that this 128 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: information can provoke wrong behavior because confusion. The consequences are vast. 129 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: We could see that in the middle of the COVID 130 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: nineteen pandemic, the people spread misinformation about the medicines. 131 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: The Food and Drug Administration was forced to warn against 132 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: using a medication to treat livestock as a treatment. 133 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: One of the big problems with this information is the 134 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:52,359 Speaker 3: distrust in institutions and organizations in the science, in reliable sources, 135 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: because this information creates a very different reality, and the 136 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: people listens to something that they want to believe, and 137 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: it's very difficult to move people from that position because 138 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: this information look for the feelings, for the emotions, and 139 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: the journalists who combine this information. We are trying to 140 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: explain what happened with scientists and reliable sources and data 141 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 3: in the ways that the people have to do an 142 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: effort to think not clean. I have to say that 143 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: this will be the first presidential election amid the boom 144 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: of the generative artificial intelligence. 145 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: More than weeks and say robo call the voters use 146 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: an AI voice of President Biden to tell them not 147 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: to vote in the New Hampshire primary, and we still 148 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: do not know who is behind it. 149 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: These kind of tools are free and are widely an Internet. 150 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: For example, we could see in twenty twenty three some 151 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: political ads using artificial intelligence. One of them was a 152 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: video what if Biden wins. 153 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: The Republican National Committee is using computer generated video to 154 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: show apocalyptic what if scenarios for President Biden to be reelected, 155 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: and it. 156 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: Feels like the train is coming off the track. 157 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: It was a creation by artificial intelligence, and show a 158 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: chootic situation with lines to look for food and medicine, war, 159 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: military jets, etc. That video said this was created by 160 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: artificial intelligence. Very small, very little words. But I think 161 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: that it's not sufficient to the people understand that it 162 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: is not real, that it is a creation. We are 163 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: concerned because we have no regulations. There are no clearly 164 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 3: rules about the use of artificial intelligence in campaigns or 165 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: another field, and it's very easy to deceive people with 166 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: that images audience. I think that the most important thing 167 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: to combat this information and misinformation is learn to use 168 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: or improve your skills and critical thinking, your skills about 169 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: how I consume the information, because a lot of information 170 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: is available to everybody, but nobody teaches you how to 171 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: consume that, how to know where is a reliable source. 172 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: Just with some steps or some little things, you can 173 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: combat this information. First, check your films, because if some 174 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: content makes you very angry or very happy or very sad, 175 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: Probably something is wrong. Second, check a source who is 176 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: sending this information is a reliable source, is a journalist, 177 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: is science? You know that source. Don't be shy to 178 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: ask to Aula on cost on cousin, how did you 179 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: know that? Did you record this? This better if you 180 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: asked the specific questions. Other thing that we say to 181 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: our audience is check if this account in social media 182 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: is a parody, because sometimes is satire content and the 183 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: people are confused about that and believe that this is true. 184 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: Other thing is very easy. 185 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: You can use Google. 186 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: And Google lens to check and verify yourself. Is that 187 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: photo that you received was published another time in other situations? 188 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: Or you can look at for the original video of 189 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: a specific event. For example, you are watching a video 190 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: with the candidate sign something. In general, they are public 191 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: events and you can find the original video. Please use 192 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: the Child Book of Fact CHECKATO on others and you 193 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: can send that photo, that image, that video, that audio, 194 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: and you can ask is this real? 195 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: Is this false? 196 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: And you are going to receive an answer and then 197 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: you can share with your growth family or friends. I 198 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: recommend always please be kind. Is your family is your 199 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: friend and it's misinformation? I think that it's not their 200 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: intention to deceive people. The people are scared. The people 201 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: want to share with you because they care about you. 202 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: And the best way to explain to your friend or 203 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: to your own ca about this content is in private, 204 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: not in the group, and you can ask questions. The 205 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: most important if you are not sure about the content, 206 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: please don't share it. In fact, together we are building 207 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: a big alliance around the world because the idea is 208 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: to do this together. Combating this information affecting Spanish speaking 209 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: communities is. 210 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: A collaborative work. 211 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: We have more than sixty allies, media outlets and organizations 212 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: in different parts of the country twenty states plus Puerto Rico. 213 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: Right now and every single Thursday, we have a meeting 214 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: with all our allies and we discause what kind of 215 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: misinformation on this information we are seeing in our communities, 216 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: in our audience, or what kind of narrative all this 217 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: information do damage in our Spanish speaking communities. We listen 218 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: to our partners in the border, in the Midwest, in 219 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: South Florida, in New York, et cetera, and we can 220 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: understand what's going on over there, what's going on at 221 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: the border, what's going on in California, and with that 222 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: input we can prepare the articles, videos, et cetera. I 223 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: think that the same thing that provoked the vulnerability of 224 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: Spanish speaking communities, as the use of WhatsApp, we can 225 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: use that and help others to understart what's going on 226 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: in social media, what's going on with artificial intelligence. Latino 227 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: communities culturally are groups with a lot of sense of group, 228 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: family and sharing that we can use the power that 229 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: we have and Latino the way that we speak with 230 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: our as well as theos amigos to help others to 231 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: understand better what's going on over there in social media 232 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: another platforms. I think that we can do this together 233 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: more effectively with the collaborative work. 234 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: That was journalist Dama, editor in chief of fact check Yado. 235 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: You can find more resources and how to combat disinformation 236 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: in our communities on our website that's Latino USA dot org. Again, 237 00:17:45,840 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: that's Latino USA dot org. This episode was produced by 238 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Victoria Estradac. It was edited by Andrea Lopez Crusado and 239 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: mixed by stefrie Lebou. The Latino USA team also includes 240 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: Renaldo Leanos, Junior, Jooni mar Marquez, Marta Martinez Mike Sargent, 241 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: Noor Saudi and Nancy Trujillo. 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