1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: The second show we did after was I just felt 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: like I didn't realize there was so many scenes with 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: people on this fuck Claudia thing, and it was just hurtful, 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: especially when they were poking fun at my sexual abuse, 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: and it was just too raw for me. Carlos, and 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm I just get tired of it, you know what 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I feel like I'm a good person 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: and I just constantly get deemed this person that I'm not. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Stay tuned look into my conversation with Claudia Jordan's right 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: after these quick ads. 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to Reality with the King. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television. 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: With over ten years of production experience, I've executive produced 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: top rated programs such as eight seasons of The Real 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: Housepots of Atlanta. Additionally, I have created shows such as 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: Netflix's Starling, Hollywood Owns number one rated love and Marriage franchise, 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: and TV one's Hollywood Divas, just to name a few. 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: down with my friends across the entertainment industry recap our 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain drops. So look, 23 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: on today's episode, I got my girl Claudia Jordan. Yes, 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: now you may know Claudia as the epic shade assassin 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: on season seven of the Real Housepots of Atlanta in 26 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: addition to her work as a model, in addition to 27 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: being on Celebrity Apprentice. In this episode, we get into 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: how she was asked by me to be on the 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: Real Housewalks oft Atlanta. How after her shade session with Nini, 30 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: the one and only Nini Leaks actually. 31 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: Vouched for Claudia to be a peach holder. 32 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: And last, but not least, Clauda gets very emotional because 33 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: she talks about how social media is really a place 34 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: where people disrespect her, talk about her, and how she 35 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: feels she is so misunderstood. 36 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: Y'all. 37 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: This was a very deep, personal, emotional, but also shady 38 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: conversation with my girl, Claudia Jordan. 39 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 3: Take a listen. Let me tell you. 40 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: Guys, how Claudia Jordan came into my life. So long 41 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: story short, I was living in Los Angeles working on 42 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Hollywood Divas for TV one and a mutual friend of 43 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: ours said you have to meet Claudia Jordan, Like you 44 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: just you have to meet her. So I don't go 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 2: out on the weekdays because I work. But for some 46 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: reason I went out on like a random Wednesday, and 47 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: I was at the Abbey, which is like, you know, 48 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: the hottest gay spot in West Hollywood, and walked in 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: was this angel in disguise named Claudia Jordan. 50 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, back it up a little bit. I had gotten 51 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: let go from a job that day. I always get 52 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: another job the day I get fired, Like it's just 53 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't stay unemployed for longer than twenty three hours. 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: That's kind of my thing. So the same day, Cole, 55 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: we have a couple of mutual friends at the time. 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: We were like, let's just go out and just drink. 57 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: I started drinking and we met you and they said 58 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: you got to meet Carlos and we just immediately clicked. 59 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: You told me you were going to change my life, 60 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: wanting to work with me, and I was like, are 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: you serious? Like I get told bullshit all the time. 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, living in Hollywood, everyone tells you that they 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: have the thing that's going to change your life. But 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: you're one of the few too. Maybe that actually came through, 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: and then a month or two I was at the 66 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: True Entertainment Network in an interview and they said, everyone 67 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: loves you. How do we make this work? 68 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Listen Back when I'm a producer on the Real Houseports 69 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: of Atlanta, so many women stalk me to be on 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: the show, and because I knew what that show needed, 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: I would ignore all of them because I was like, listen, 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: it's a privilege to be on the Real Houseports of Atlanta. 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: So when I met you, I didn't meet you thinking like, 74 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: let me find a new housewife, because we weren't looking 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: to be honest with you. So after the epic season 76 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: of season six, my biggest thing was always Kenya more 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: needs a friend, because I always felt that Kenya was 78 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: on her own when it came to her position on 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: the show. And when you told me that you and 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: Kenya Moore were friends, that's when it clicked me, like, 81 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: wait a second, this beautiful woman who is spicy like 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: an enchilada and can have a good time, but she's 83 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: organically connected to Kenya, because that's the thing. You have 84 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: to be connected to somebody on the show for it 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: to make sense. So all of that made sense and 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: that's why I literally fought for you. But no shade 87 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: to me. They didn't listen to me. So tell everybody 88 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: how I wanted you to be a housewife. You met 89 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: with the production company, they loved you, but when you 90 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: started filming, they said you would be a friend to 91 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: the show. 92 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: They did, and you know, I wasn't wealthy at the time. 93 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Things have changed. I wasn't living in a mansion. I 94 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: didn't have a public relationship. So they were like, we 95 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: love you, but how do we make it work. It 96 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: was weird because I told you before, I said I'm 97 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: friends with Kenya, I'm also cool with Porsche. But it 98 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: kind of caused an immediate thing when I got the 99 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley Show because everyone on this show also does 100 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: Dish Nations, so they were in the middle of wrapping 101 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: up her contract negotiating. Some people were trying to get 102 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: me a dish like. It was a weird three week gap. 103 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: Like if I had gotten that call earlier, I would 104 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: have been in. But it was this kind of weird. 105 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: And I said, if you come and through Kenya, they're 106 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: gonna hate you. If you come in through Porsche, probably 107 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: be easy for you. 108 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: Who said that to you? 109 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Do we talk? Was it me and you that talked 110 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: about it? It was someone else, me and you. 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: Talked to No. No, Remember when I met you that night. 112 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: I knew that you were friends with Kenya because after 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: I met you at three o'clock in the morning on 114 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: the West Coast time. Mind you, Kenya lives in Atlanta, 115 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: so it's six in the morning her time. I called 116 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: Kenya like, bitch, I met Claudia Jordan and I'm finally 117 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: going to make sure you have a friend this season. 118 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: So I had no idea you knew porschef somebody. 119 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe it was someone at true someone said that, 120 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: and me and Kenya didn't have a common friendship where 121 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: we talk all the time, But when we do it's 122 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: like no time has ever gone by, like we picked 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: right back up and it's not been a needy friend where, 124 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: which I love low maintenance friendships. I'm there for you 125 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: when you need me. If someone comes to you unfairly, 126 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have your back, but I don't do your 127 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: dirty work. She don't have puppet strings on my back. 128 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: No one can put a puppet straight on my back. 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: If you haven't already figured that out, it ain't happening. 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: But I was cool. I was cool with all of them. 131 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Meani and I have been cool. I did a job 132 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: for her before I get into this thing, like oh, 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: this is a non hostile situation for me. I'm cool. 134 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: So yeah. I think they had Dmitriy slated to be 135 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: a housewife at the time, and I was like, Okay, cool, 136 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: she's got the you know, the rich boyfriend. She's definitely 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: in the Atlanta scene. I'm not you know, it is 138 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: what it is. I was like, this is a cool 139 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: ott gig. I didn't watch it a lot. I just 140 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: started watching when Kenya got on. I didn't even go 141 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: in thinking I was going to be a housewife. I 142 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: wasn't trying. I was like, Okay, whatever's meant to be 143 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: will be. 144 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with Claudia. Will 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: be right back after this quick break. This is reality 146 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back 147 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: into my conversation with Claudia. I wanted Claudia to be 148 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: a housewife, a peach holder. Sometimes the requirement is wealthy lifestyle, 149 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: relationship with a husband or boyfriend or fiance, and have 150 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: a social scene in Atlanta. Although Claudia was friends with Kenya, 151 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: she knew Portia, she knew Nini. I was disappointed when 152 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: Claudia wasn't a peach holder. Listen, not to brag on myself, 153 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: but I knew that she was be one and I 154 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: felt that because Dimitria, who I like and we all 155 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: love Dimitria. 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: I never felt. 157 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: That Dimitri was a housewife material because she never wanted 158 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: to film with the ladies because they weren't her real friends. 159 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: And when she did film with them, they hazed her 160 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: in a way that was funny but also was a 161 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: little bit uncomfortable. And the one thing about Claudia that 162 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: I always appreciated, like Candy loved you, Cynthia loved you. 163 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: You were a easy fit. So I was disappointed until 164 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: that stormy. 165 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: Night in Puerto Rico. 166 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Claudia, talk to the girls and guys 167 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: listening about when you were at that dinner table. This 168 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: is like your first reality show, internal ensemble. You did 169 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: Celeby Apprentice and all that, but this was your first 170 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: reality show where it's a group of women. You know 171 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: some of these people. What was going through your mind 172 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: as that dinner conversation in Puerto Rico was happening. 173 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I had requested a couple of 174 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: days off from the Ricky Smiley Show, so I was happy. 175 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: I just want to go to Puerto Rico to go 176 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: hit the casinos, gamble and drink some peanut coladas. That's 177 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: all I was there for. So when I'm at the 178 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: dinner table and like you said, how the ladies were 179 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: kind of hazing Demetria, and I just was like, why 180 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: are they picking on Demetria? They were kind of coming 181 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: for her relationship, and I'm like, nobody at this table 182 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: can talk. None of y'all can talk, So it wasn't 183 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: really my business, but I'm very uncomfortable saying two on 184 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: one three on one. I thought that was rude. I 185 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: had taken a liking Dimetria, so when they were just 186 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of making fun of her music career, but I'm like, 187 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: she's made more money on her own than all of 188 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: you except for Candy, like knock it off. So I 189 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: just thought that was really mean and how they were 190 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: coming for Demitria, and it just personally bothered me, Like 191 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I was like, really, is this what we're doing? So 192 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: I said something and that's when, oh, you have a brain, 193 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you don't want this. I promise you don't, Honey, 194 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: you don't. And I know people going to say, why 195 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: are you still talking about this because Carlos King Invitey's podcast. 196 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: No, let's be clear. No, I'm going to defid you 197 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: really quickly. It's a very small couple of people on Twitter, 198 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: which we know. Twitter ain't the real world. It's a 199 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: fun playground where you get to play dodgeball by dodging 200 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: questions or tweets, or you get to play in the sandbox. Right, 201 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 2: So there's times people say to me, I mean, damn, Carlos, 202 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: you left housewife six years ago while you still talking 203 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: about it. 204 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: Cuz, bitch, I'm the. 205 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: One who made all of these great moments happen. So 206 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: when I see y'all tweet about it, I want to 207 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: play with y'all. 208 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: I have fun with it. 209 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: So in terms of us talking about this moment, that 210 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: moment is iconic because of you and Nini peer we 211 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: d and this is an opportunity for you to defend 212 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: yourself because a lot of people felt that Claudia came for. 213 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: The queen because she wanted a peach. 214 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: I didn't care about a peach. I didn't get paid, 215 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Just so y'all know, I didn't go there for money. 216 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: I was making money in the Ricky Smiland show. I 217 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: was more booked than I had ever been. I did 218 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: not sign my contract until the night before the reunion, 219 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: and then I was able to negotiate for the one 220 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: of the highest first years of any housewife ever in history. 221 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: They offered me five figures and I got six. Just 222 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: to be clear, most of the women got five figures 223 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: their first season. I'm not going to say how much 224 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: it was because instead of I'm not putting their business 225 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: out there. So if I was that desperate for that, 226 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: I would have signed immediately. I did not. I didn't. 227 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: I was fine with it. Like it wasn't like I 228 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: had an agenda. This all really happened organically, me meeting Carlos. 229 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to get a housewife, so y'all can 230 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: please stop with that. I wasn't and I didn't have 231 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: pre rehearse reads. I didn't really I didn't follow NeDi 232 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: I didn't watch her. But before we went to Puerto Rico, 233 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: I did a Google search and I saw some of 234 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: the conversations, but I don't pre record or pre rehearse reads. 235 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm very spontaneous off the cuff. I work with Jamie 236 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: Fox for four years with real funny people. 237 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: So for me, listen. 238 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I feel like people 239 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: hate you just. 240 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: To hate on you, you know. 241 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: I think because you're a beautiful woman, and you're sarcastic, 242 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: you know how to read, you have a dark. 243 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: Sense of humor. 244 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: I think those are all the reasons why people hate 245 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: you or love to hate you. But I always tell 246 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: people this, when people hate you, they really love you secretly, 247 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: and that's the reason why you have a lot of followers. 248 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but we also I wander the psyche 249 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: of people that follow people that they say they don't like, 250 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I do wonder about that. 251 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: I do think that the people that actually know me 252 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: or get to know me. So many times I've heard damn, 253 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: I thought you were one way, but you're not. And 254 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times that's kind of just going with 255 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: what people are saying on social media or getting someone 256 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: else's opinion. But nine times out of ten, the people 257 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: that don't like me haven't met me, you know what 258 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean? Because once they meet me, it's always like, yo, 259 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: you a real one, or I didn't know, or oh 260 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: TV makes you look like this. No, we're on a 261 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: reality show. And a lot of times you're in situations 262 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: you wouldn't normally be, and I wouldn't normally be at 263 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: lunch with people that are hostile to me. So you're 264 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: gonna see an ugly side, you're gonna see a different side. 265 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: Or if you like the person that I'm arguing with, 266 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: you're not gonna like me just because you already have 267 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: preconceived notions, or you're just riding for your favorite. But 268 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: one thing about me you cannot say is that I'm 269 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: a liar. You know, I'm very What you see is 270 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: what you get sometime it takes five, six, seven years, 271 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: but what I say usually comes to fruition and you're like, oh, 272 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: she wasn't lying. Now, maybe my delivery is very blunt. 273 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: I get that from my grandma. I'm from a family 274 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: of people that are like kind of low key comedians, 275 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: and they don't really sugarcoat We've never sugarcoated anything. And 276 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: that's the kind of medicine that I like to receive. 277 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: Give it to me straight. When I got to La 278 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: I was so frustrated with how people talk in circles. 279 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: Get to the fucking point, what are you trying to 280 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: say to me? And I think people especially and I'm 281 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: not coming for the South, but there is a certain 282 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: segment of the population that tries so hard to look 283 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: like a good Christian publicly, a classy woman, a Southern 284 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: bell And no, I'm not coming for one particular person. 285 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: It's the culture. And when they package things in a 286 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: sweet way, it's the equivalent of I went to a 287 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: pageant and Miss Georgia was my roommate, and she pinched 288 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: my cheek and she said, bless your heart, and I 289 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: didn't realize she was basically telling you, fuck you. It's 290 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: like a down South fuck you, you know, And so 291 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: people outside look it in I say, why would you 292 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: take offense to that? But I think the way people 293 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: package things up to seem really sweet and kind and 294 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: almost religious and biblical, but really they're saying or doing 295 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: something that's really more sinister. So my bad if I 296 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: call it out. I'm really not for the fakes. I'm 297 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: just not for the fake and it really bothers me. 298 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: So maybe I'm in the wrong industry, and that's why 299 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm kind of swimming upstream sometimes. If 300 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: you like honest and you like people telling it like 301 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: it is, then you're probably gonna rock with me, and 302 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a Claudia and Jordan fan. If you 303 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: like things package that make you feel comfortable and it 304 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: sounds good or it looks good, you're probably gonna hate me, 305 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. 306 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: Well, the thing about it is this, I'm a good 307 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: judge of character, and I went on record saying I 308 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: love you, I adore you. You and I have had arguments. 309 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: Claudia cross the seed in the middle of US West 310 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: Hollywood and cussed me out. 311 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: No, it cuss you out. 312 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: You called Claudiac. 313 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: It was not a cussout. 314 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: You don't yeah what you read. 315 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I was. I was just heart you know. 316 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: I I the reality world's honestly clos like you said, 317 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: it's new to me, and I just I get tired 318 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: of feeling misunderstood and that's not your fault. The second 319 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: show we did after was I just felt like I 320 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: didn't realize there was so many scenes with people on 321 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: this fuck Claudia thing and it was just her especially 322 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: when they were poking fun at my sexual abuse and 323 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: it was just too raw for me, Carlos, and I 324 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: just get tired of it, you know what I mean, Like, 325 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a good person and I just 326 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: constantly get deemed this person that I'm not, you know 327 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm sorry if it came up 328 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: and I was coming for you, because you definitely gave 329 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: me opportunities and I don't think you had wicked intent, 330 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: but at the time, I felt like, damn another one, 331 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like another opportunity to be 332 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: seen in a different light, and I thought I was 333 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: and then when I saw all the scenes, it was 334 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: like I never had beef with Jennifer Williams or reason 335 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: to and then this entire show. I am a whore, 336 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm a bit che I'm with this, and I'm like, 337 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: you partnered up with my ex husband to get our 338 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: annoment papers to make me look crazy that never got 339 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: shot on the show, on the show, and it just 340 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: was like I just felt like I still wasn't getting 341 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, people weren't able to still see me. And 342 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: I apologize because you are so and I You're one 343 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: of my favorite people. You really are, and it really 344 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: saw that for like a couple of years, we really weren't, 345 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, key keen and talking. But it was just 346 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: too raw for me, you know what I mean, coming 347 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: off a Housewives, and I honestly had I honestly had 348 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: anxiety every Sunday when I watch the show, me and 349 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Cynthy would be on the phone and you guys would 350 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: send us the episodes so we could write our blogs. 351 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: But I was like, I go on the show with 352 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: all you know, good intent, I get deemed a colorist, 353 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: a sluts. You don't like when you're a victim of 354 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: any kind of abuse in your life, and then people 355 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: use that as zero Achilles They keep hitting you, that's 356 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: your Achilles heal. It really fucks with you. I felt 357 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: really fucked up afterwards, and I'm like, Wow, a lie 358 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: about me just got magnified by Ninni and then her 359 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: fans just to win an argument. And you know it's 360 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: not true, you know, I mean, like, you can't show 361 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: me where I've shown horse behavior ever in my life. 362 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: Show me where I fuck with someone's husband, Show me 363 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: where I've been a gold digger, Show me when I 364 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: a period of my life when I have not worked 365 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: hard for every single penny I want. I have a Bentley, 366 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: a car, I started a production company. I'm producing plays. 367 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: This is all by myself. And that's not a flex. Well, yeah, 368 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: it is a flex because I'm proud of what I did. 369 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: I did it by myself. No man helped me. I've 370 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: paid every single phone bill, in car payment, in rent payment, 371 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: and mortgage payment. And then to feel like someone could 372 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: just be in a scene and just say something to 373 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: you just to win a scene, knowing it's not true. 374 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: That shit hurts me because people repeated. I had fourteen 375 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: year old boys and my dms that are fans of 376 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: my ops that are repeating these things, and it was 377 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: like a thousand death by a thousand little cuts, you 378 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So then the second chance on 379 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: the next fifteen I was like, Okay, I can clean 380 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: that up. And then to see people that I had 381 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: no reason to have any beef with made it their 382 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: storyline to just d me this evil person. It just 383 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: wasn't true. 384 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: No, and listen, you don't have to apologize to me 385 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: at all. 386 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: I appreciate it, but you don't need to. 387 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: I wish people could see you because you're crying and 388 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: you're emotional, and and one thing about being on reality 389 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: TV is it's not all glist and glamour. 390 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: It's not all fun and games. And the reason. 391 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: Why I do have this podcast is because it is 392 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: an opportunity for me to share my show with people 393 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: like you, who I do feel like are misunderstood. Because 394 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: even after and listen, I'm of course poking fun about 395 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: an argument. It was definitely a hurtful situation because I 396 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: did feel like, damn, Claudia, I always have your back, 397 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: like I always fight for you because I think. 398 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: You're so underrated. 399 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: So where my feelings hurt absolutely, And you and I 400 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: did not talk for a while because of this, but 401 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: I never stopped loving you because for me, I tell 402 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: people this all the time, I do not know what 403 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: it feels like to share my personal life on TV. 404 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: And when people tweet you nasty things. It's one thing 405 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: to get it from the cast, because that's just how 406 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: you know certain shows are built, but it's one thing 407 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: to have to get that from millions of people as well. 408 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: And I have known you for, oh my god, over 409 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: ten years. I've never seen you cry. 410 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: I cry a lot, Carlos, But people don't see it, 411 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: and people think because you can read a bit, that 412 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: means your heart is cold. No, I can read because 413 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: it's a defense mechanism. It's like I have no choice. 414 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: I'm the only one that's like fighting for me that 415 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: I see, right, So when you get these attacks, you 416 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: can't just sit there and look gum. Then you like 417 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: got read and you're humiliated. So it's like, you know, 418 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm defensive. I am defensive, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 419 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: it is hard when you have never had I had 420 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: no negativity on my Instagram ever, maybe one or two 421 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: a month, you know. But I also had like sixty 422 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: thousand followers that I got on Housewives. It like multiplied, 423 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: and then it became like you're a bit You're oh, 424 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: you're ugly, you're not pretty Udi, and yet you're this 425 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: and you're you ain't shitt and you can't get a man, 426 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: and you might be going through something with your relationship, 427 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: So that should be stinging when you're actually going through 428 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: a situation where you're having an issue with your relationship. 429 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: And I just want people to just be more conscious 430 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: of the things they say. And I know people might say, well, 431 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: you host the show where you talk gossip. Yes, we 432 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: talk headlines. 433 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: And well, I think you're not doing You're not taking. 434 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 2: Shade someone's throwing for the sake of a sport and 435 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: double downing on it on your show by constantly talking 436 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: about It's a difference if you're a celebrity and you're 437 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: going through a scandal or best of off, because what 438 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: you're doing is what the white press is doing, and 439 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: what bothers me is because you are a journalist, is 440 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: when a black journalist talks about a black celebrity, then 441 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: they're call like, oh my gosh, you're messy. 442 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: So I'm with you there. 443 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: But to shift gears back to Puerto Rico, honey, A 444 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: lot of people felt that you rehearsed your reads to Meani, 445 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: Oh please. 446 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't have the memory to rehearse it. Very I 447 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: didn't expect her to come for me on that trip, 448 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: so't I wasn't prepared, like, oh, she says this, I'm 449 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: going to say that. I didn't know if she was 450 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: gonna say spaghetti said spaghetti. You need to have loves 451 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: spaghetti your diet. I went to college, college, college, what 452 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: schools that spell bridesmaids? Like? I didn't know she was 453 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna say that stuff. So everything I said was a 454 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: reaction to what she said. So how could I rehearse that? 455 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 2: How can you rehearse something that you did not know 456 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: was going to happen? And that's the beauty of that trip. 457 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: I have produced that show up until that point. That 458 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: was season seven, so I was on there for yeah, 459 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: up until then. So it wasn't like you even knew 460 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: that was going to happen, because as the producer of 461 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: the show that season, we thought it was going to 462 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: be Dimitria versus Phedra and then maybe Nini versus king 463 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: You or Cynthia, because that was the season that Cynthia 464 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: and Nini were on the outs. 465 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: The only thing you did was OPI your mop and. 466 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: Say, oh my gosh, are we not even to Nini. 467 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: If you guys watched the freaking scene, Claudia says, oh 468 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: my gosh, are we the collective? 469 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: Are we really doing this? And that's when Nimi took. 470 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: It upon herself to direct it towards you. That's called 471 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: common sense, people, How can you rehearse something that you 472 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: did not know was going to happen. 473 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: I just was appalled that Needy and Faedor of being 474 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: very mean to Demetria and Dimitria didn't do anything to 475 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: warrant that. She was kind of minding her own business, 476 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: trying to be, you know, be protective of her relationship. 477 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: She wasn't popping off to anyone. She wasn't being disrespectful. 478 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: So for them to say they make fun of her 479 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: singing career, her music, her relationship. Last I checked, she's 480 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: the best singer in the group. That's no shade of 481 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: Candy at all, because I love Candy. But I'm just saying, like, 482 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: she's a great singer, she's a great actress, she's independent, 483 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: and she has done it on her own. So I 484 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: don't know why they were being so mean. I think people. 485 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: I just think we're in a world now where bad 486 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: as good and good as bad. The women that are 487 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: out here getting money by ill be gotten ways, okay, 488 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: we championed them. Oh that's my bitch, she's getting her break. 489 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: Who cares the women that are out here working their 490 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: ass off and may not have the same bags, the 491 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: same cars, or the same whatever, or it may take 492 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: a little bit longer to get there, but they're getting 493 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: it with their on their own merriage. We demonize them. 494 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: We overlook them, we dismiss them, they're whatever. Do you 495 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: know how hard it is to stay in this business five, ten, fifteen, 496 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five years and you did it on your 497 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: own talent and merit without fucking someone for a gig. 498 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: Y'all hard, that is, And women like myself and Demetria 499 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: have been that you should be. These are the kind 500 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: of women you should want your daughters to aspire to 501 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: be like. Now, yes, I have a potty mouth and 502 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Dmitrio doesn't, but my core and my values are good. 503 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm pro woman, I'm like, yo, go get it, sis. 504 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm always celebrating other women on my page all the time. 505 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: But why the women like us are so quick to 506 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: be written off? But a woman that takes a shortcut, 507 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: y'all love that? And then you talk about protect black women. 508 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: I think people are full of shit. We say one 509 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: thing out the one side of our neck, and then 510 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: really what we're really about is not being represented. And 511 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: I just wish we could get back to where good 512 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: is good and bad is bad. But we're rewarding bad behavior, 513 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: so why would people start doing it? 514 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: I do feel like the universe of reality lovers and 515 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: just pop culture community they really don't know who you 516 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: are because after that reed session that you and Nini had, 517 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: you were fine. You laughed at it, and you went 518 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 2: back to your hotel room and went to sleep. And 519 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: what people don't know, and I may have said this 520 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: before to other people, but I'll say it now, what 521 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: people don't know is after that scene between you and 522 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: Nini having the reed fest, Nini came up to me 523 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: and said, y'all chose the wrong bitch. Claudia should be 524 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: a housewife, not Demetria. Because Claudia kept her cool and 525 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: she went toe to toe with me, and I respect 526 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: the bitch. And that's when I said to myself self, bitch, 527 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 2: you know how to produce a show, and you know 528 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: callum when you see it. 529 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: So because of Nini, real talk. 530 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: Because Nini said that to me, that gave me the 531 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: clearance to fight again for Claudia being a housewife because 532 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: up until then she was a friend to the show. 533 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: And weeks after that Puerto Rico trip is when the 534 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: collective agreed to make Claudia housewife. And because of that, unfortunately, 535 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: we had to work backwards to populate scenes so that 536 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: you could see Claudia's full life so unfortunately, I always 537 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: thought that you were never given the opportunity to express 538 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: your real life because you weren't a peach holder until 539 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: a few weeks before we wrapped the season. 540 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: And Andy had said that publicly as well. He said 541 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: she never got a fair shake. He had some people 542 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: on the show and they said who should come back, 543 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: and a few people said me, And he said, she 544 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: never really was given a fair shot. And again people 545 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: said she has no storyline. She was broke. Now I'm open. 546 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: I had had my friends that delivered from New York. 547 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: It took seventeen days. So the first fifty days we 548 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: beating in Atlanta, y'all saw an empty apartment, and so 549 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: we bought some iqas just to be funny. I don't 550 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: mind poking fun of myself. I didn't think y'all would 551 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: take it as I broke. I don't got it going on. 552 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: I was working on a nationally syndicated radio show that 553 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: had eight million listeners. I was booked every single weekend. 554 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: I was working. But like the narrative from y'all, not 555 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: you but the fans is she's broken. She had no storyline. 556 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: If you wait, if you have four months of filming 557 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: in the last three or four weeks. You're scrambling to 558 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: kind of get something on camera. You're not going to 559 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: really get the full picture. You're not gonna get what 560 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: I was going through. You're not gonna get my adjustment 561 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: into a land and all my friends in my life. 562 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I understand what y'all think, but that's just 563 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: not the case. And you know, I probably should have 564 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: agreed and come back when they offered me to come 565 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: back as a friend of the show to re earn 566 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: my peach, But honestly, I was going through getting my 567 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: contract not yet and renewed at Ricky Smiley Show. I 568 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: was going through a breakup. Everything happened in the same week, 569 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: and I was my heart hurt. You guys, as much 570 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: as y'all think I'm a hardcore strong bitch, I'm really sensitive. 571 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm sensitive. I'm a sense of person. I have a 572 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: heart it breaks constantly. But I have to put out 573 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: a strong face publicly for what I do. So I 574 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: honestly was like, let me just go back to LA 575 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: where I'm familiar with. I know, you know, Atlanta. Okay, 576 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: I got love fear, but I'm out and I left 577 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: and I did a show with you and I did 578 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: a talk show. 579 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: So what's funny is the show you talked about that 580 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: we did together after Housewives was the next fifteen on 581 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: TV one, which, unfortunately, and I will go on record 582 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: saying this, that show was a hit of his time. 583 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: It was, and it's funny because so many people now 584 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: rewatch clips and post clips and the fans are like, 585 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: what show is this? 586 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: How did I miss this? It was under the radar. 587 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that show was so funny that even Jesse Smollett 588 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: text you and Caramo, because y'all were friends at the time. 589 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: I forgot what he said, but he was like bitch, 590 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: like he was like he loved this show. He goes, 591 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: I cannot not watch the show like he was a 592 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: huge fan of the show. He really was. And I 593 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: forgot exactly what he said after that, but. 594 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said something like, you two are fools. I 595 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: love it, And then. 596 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: You two ask him to like tweet about it because 597 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: we needed the ratings because it was on TV one 598 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: and a lot of people did not know where the 599 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: show was. And I remember him saying to you guys 600 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: something along the lines of allegedly that if he tweeted 601 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: about the show. 602 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: It would like tain his career or something. 603 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jesse, Now, Jesse, you should have just put 604 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: the tweet out because I think you would have been fine. 605 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 3: Yes. 606 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: And what's interesting, though, is a lot of celebrities are 607 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: now coming out of the woodworks praising reality TV. 608 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: So I'm with them, like. 609 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: Jesse, Like, I know, Empire is the number one show 610 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: on TV at that time, but I don't think your 611 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: career is ruined if you tweet that you're watching reality TV. 612 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: I never understood why certain celebrities think that way. I 613 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: never understood that. 614 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: You know, everyone wants to be grander than they are 615 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: and just you know everything. So I can't my brand 616 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: my brand. I need people to retire the damn word brand. 617 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of it. Everybody with an Instagram don't 618 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: have a brand. Not saying Jesse does not, but it's 619 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: just like my brand. This my brand that your friends 620 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: are on the show and you like it, keep it 621 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: a butt. What's wrong with that? Listen? I watched Mari 622 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Povich and Jerry Springer all the time. People say that's 623 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: trash TV, that shit is funny. It's how I love it. 624 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: And I've guest hosted on Morey and I will do 625 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: it again. Just I just need people to stop being 626 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: so fake. If you like something, you like it, be 627 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: unapologetically you. 628 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: So you now live in Dallas? 629 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Real Housewives of Dallas has been put on hold. 630 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: Would you ever return to the Real Housewives and if so, 631 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: would you be open to doing Dallas? 632 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely? I feel like I went into Housewives very green, 633 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and now I know the game. 634 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: Not that I want to be all fake and I don't. 635 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: I still want to be authentic, but I know a 636 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: little bit better, like, Okay, get a little bit more 637 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: glam or you know what this scene really how someone 638 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: can hijack the scene because I went in there really 639 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: like I know, I'm really trying to fix this problem, 640 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: and then the girl on the other side of the 641 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: tables like I'm just trying to make you look stupid 642 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: and read you, and I'm like, oh, I didn't really realize. 643 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: I thought we was being real, but we're not. Okay, 644 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: got it. I would definitely do it, And I did 645 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: have an interview with Real Housewives of Dallas when I 646 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: first got Fox. I was in LA did a zoom 647 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: call with them, and I was. 648 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: Well, hold on, hold on, you auditioned to be on 649 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Dallas. 650 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: I didn't know this. 651 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they called the production folks. So I was hanging 652 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: out with Deandra. We hung out a couple of times, 653 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: and I think they were trying to bring a little 654 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: diversities to the show. So we hung out a few 655 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: times and she was like kind of fighting for me, 656 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: and so I had a Zoom meeting. But honestly, the 657 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: day of the Zoom meeting, I just got Fox Soul. 658 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: So I was literally commuting from Dallas to La Monday morning, 659 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: going on the air Monday night, and leaving Friday. So 660 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I can only give you the 661 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: weekends and maybe a Wednesday. And they were like they 662 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: had asked the pictures of my guy's house, my place, 663 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: like we had gotten that far. So then when that 664 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: couldn't happen, it was like they moved on and they 665 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: had been talked to a bunch of black women in Dallas. Listen, 666 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: it is a huge mistake that the Dallas franchise did 667 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 1: not tap into the black women in Dallas. When I 668 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: tell you, I've never been in a city where the 669 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: black women are so successful, way more successful than their men. 670 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: These women own trucking companies, their own lines. They are 671 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: interior designers, they run nonprofits. And I say money, This 672 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: ain't no entertainment money. Where let me look like I 673 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: have money and and I wrent designer clothes. These are people, yeah, 674 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: your friend. Anyways, these are people that actually buy stuff. 675 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: They don't ask for hookups. They actually have money, not 676 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: just money, but it's like they actually have real businesses, 677 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So they're missing a huge opportunity. 678 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: They're sassy, they're funny, they talk shit, and we all 679 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: are friends. There's a group of us that's like we 680 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: have Deete Maguire, who's like one of the few black 681 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: women in syndicated radio that's gaining markets like every single month. 682 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: We've got my girls that I told you about. She's 683 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: dating a drummer, a huge drum with Katie Perry. We've 684 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: got my girl Tony Grant who has the VJ label. 685 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: She's got in her man. They got a truck and compy. 686 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: They're they're like country Country Country, but now they got money, 687 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: so they always in versaci. So this shit is so funny. 688 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: We all have gambling problems. Like there's a cool group 689 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: of people down and we've talked about it. They're missing 690 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: a huge opportunity. But that's okay, Carlos, because we're gonna 691 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: do Alpha Women dollars. 692 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, let the girls know. Listen. 693 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: I would love any opportunity to work with you again. 694 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: You are a fantastic reality star. 695 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: You really are. 696 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: I think you're funny, You're beautiful, you you're You have 697 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: this presence on the camera that I just think is 698 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: a gift. I enjoy you for taking time out of 699 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: your very busy schedule being the host of so many 700 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: shows on Fox. 701 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: Soul. I'm so proud of you. 702 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: Follow her at at Claudia Jordan on Twitter and Instagram, 703 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: and you never know, you just may see that beautiful 704 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: face again on TV. 705 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: So thank you, Claudia, Carlos. 706 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to do this. 707 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: That conversation with Claudia truly was magnificent and meaningful. 708 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 3: What I love about it is, look, y'all know. 709 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: I love y'all on Twitter, I love y'all on Instagram. 710 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: Y'all can read me all day long, and I don't. 711 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: Give a damn. I really don't care. But I'm also 712 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: not a reality star. 713 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: And what you guys don't understand is it takes a 714 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: lot of courage and bravery to put your life out 715 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 2: there and be judged by the world. So when y'all 716 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 2: say negative things about these housewives or reality stars, it 717 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: really doesn't affect them. When it comes to Claudia Jordan, 718 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: the woman that I know, she's super strong, she's super funny, 719 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: and she can take a lot. I have never seen 720 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: Claudia get that emotional, and I have known her for, 721 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, more than ten years. I really do 722 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: hope that you guys give these reality stars a little 723 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: bit of a break with the mean comments, because it 724 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: does affect them. 725 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 3: They're not perfect. 726 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: They are really showing you, guys, what it's like to 727 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: be imperfect, what it's like to make mistakes, what it's 728 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: like to live your real life in front of the camera. 729 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 3: And yes, they're doing. 730 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: It for our entertainment and enjoyment, but please take some 731 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: time out to at least show a little bit of 732 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 2: respect to these reality stars we love to watch every 733 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: single night because as you just listen to with Claudia, 734 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: it does affect and not only does it affect them, 735 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 2: it really affects them in an emotional place. And then 736 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: we're all about protecting black women and protecting people with 737 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: mental health. 738 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 3: Then we have to put our foot where our mouth 739 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: is and apply that to the mean tweets that we do. 740 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: Thoughts, opinions. Read about my conversation with Claudia. Email me 741 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: at Reality with the King at stititri dot com or 742 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: lead me a voicemail at three one oho five ninety 743 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: three eight one eight eight. Thank you for listening to 744 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: Reality with the King. New episodes drop every Wednesday and Friday, Share, comment, follow, 745 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: and subscribe to Reality with the King. 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