1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: your bets. It is meet Joey Paid, Joe Pisapia, and 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: today Pat Fitz Morris and I are going to look 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: into the future. We're gonna get the crystal balls out. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna rub them up real nice, make them all shiny, 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: and win you some money to put in your pockets. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna be looking at player awards today. In a 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: few weeks time, we're gonna be looking at some of 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: the numbers too, in terms of who's gonna lead the 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: league in this and who's gonna lead the league in that. 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: But today we're just gonna have some fun because the 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: award market is one of my favorite things. They don't 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: call me Joey Futures for nothing, and no, I did 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: not make up that nickname for myself. Welsh made it 15 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: up for me. But FITZI, coming in fresh off the weekend, 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: I gotta say this is all about making good decisions. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: I made decision yesterday that was questionable. I decided to 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: play in a teenagers versus adults kickball game in the 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: grass Barefoot yesterday, and although the adults did win, I 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: have to say, my feet are angry at me this morning. 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: This is a bad decision. I think we all make 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: as adults, what we still think we could do things 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: we did five, ten, fifteen years ago. FITZI have you 24 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: learned that lesson yet, because I clearly have not. 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Boy, I thought you were going to say 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: some sort of minor bad decision, like pairing fish with 27 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: red wine or something. But like doing that, Yeah, like 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: exerting yourself playing with the youth. I mean, I've made 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: that mistake with my kids a couple of times in 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: recent years, and I think I'm done making that mistake. 31 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Like I've I've learned the hard way. 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: It's a bad idea. Apparently my idiocy knows no bounds. 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: But people who watch and listen to the show they 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: know that already. And we did win. I did get close, though. 35 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: I gotta say. It was six' to two going into 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: that last inning and they finished up six,' five so 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: we know it got, real close. Real fast it's more. 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: The running it's the, barefoot running not so much. The 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Kicking and i'm in there in. THE grass i wore my. 40 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: FLIP flops i did not, anticipate kickball but regardless, kickball 41 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: happened and you, Know me i'm a, competitive fellow but 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna get competitive here in. THE market fitzi also 43 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: wrote a great article regarding some of these playoff, excuse 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: me these player futures that we've been looking at here 45 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: on today's show. And fits where can everybody find that? 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Article TOO because i know you did this earlier and 47 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: you've kind of rehashed it and refreshed. This article not 48 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: too much. Has change we're gonna talk about some of that. 49 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Line movement but where can everybody? 50 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: GET that, Pc, wrote yeah go to betting pros, and, 51 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: well actually probably the best way to do it is 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: To Google pat fitzmore as betting pros and you will 53 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: find my list, of articles and those will not be 54 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: very far down on. 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Fall together so let's, do that. 83 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: All right we're gonna START. At mvp that's the big 84 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: one here as Always, AND pat i always like to 85 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: pick two guys. Every year this IS what. I do 86 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: i pick two at, the start AND then i MONITOR and, 87 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: i WATCH and i play this market like the. Stock 88 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: market i'm looking for the guys that, you know who's gonna, 89 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: move up who's gonna. Move down you always get good 90 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: numbers at the, very open which IS why i think 91 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: it's very smart to get an EARLY. On mvp, LAST 92 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: year i had. Two names It Was, josh allen It Was. 93 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes as Soon As josh allen lost To, the 94 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: jets that was enough. FOR me i don't think you 95 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: CAN win mvp when you get your butt handed to 96 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: you By The New. York jets and you know what, it, 97 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: Was RIGHT so i made money on that one because 98 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: that was a plus. Eight hundred mahomes a plus, seven 99 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: hundred the same as he is. THIS year i took. 100 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: THAT money i Hedged With jalen hurts would look really 101 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: smart for a while because he went Ahead of mahomes 102 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: in those double. Digit weeks then the, injury happened then 103 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: the rest. Is history mahomes ended up winning. The Award 104 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: so i'm back Again and i'm back On That patrick. 105 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: Mahomes WAGON and i know, it's CHALK and i know, it's, 106 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Boring folks but are we going to make money? On 107 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: this is this number in week ten gonna end up 108 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: looking like plus three hundred plus. Two fifteen if you 109 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: want to just get out, of it, you. Can Yes 110 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: so i'm starting there with. The chalk we'll get to 111 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: the other pick for Me that i'm going with. This Year, 112 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: but pat how do YOU approach mvp and who are 113 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: your early investments that you think might be the, good 114 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: chalk maybe the good long shot. 115 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: As well it probably does make sense to focus on. 116 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: The quarterbacks show quarterbacks have won the LAST ten, mvp 117 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: awards the last Non Quarterback adrian peterson in, twenty twelve 118 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: and since, let's see the only non quarterbacks to BE 119 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: named mvp since two thousand. And one so we're going 120 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: back all the way to the start of. The Millennium Shoe, Adrian, Peterson, 121 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: Ladanian Tomlinson Sean alexander So and Tomlinson and alexander those 122 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: guys were two thousand, and five two thousand, and six 123 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: so it's been. A while great value With. Mahomes man 124 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: he's been in the league for six seasons and he's 125 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: BEEN the mvp twice and in his first season he started, 126 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: one game so basically two out. Of five, you know 127 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: at the odds. We're getting so you said it's a plus, Seven, 128 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: hundred now, oh. 129 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Look it's plus. Seven hundreds. Were open THAT'S where i 130 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: got it on bettingpros. Dot com, right now the consensus 131 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: best lieing gets plus six fifty because obviously some bet. 132 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Pretty hard but my guess is by the time we 133 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: get to, this season they'll probably want to open it 134 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: up a little bit more and might bounce back to 135 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the seven because they want a little bit more action, 136 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: on it especially as other guys start to get. More 137 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: buzz that's. My inkling but, right now six fifty is 138 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: the best number you, can get and that's something you 139 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: want to jump on because, you know by the time 140 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: we get into i want, to say six weeks into, 141 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: THE season i imagine it's going to be at least 142 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: four or five like that's one's going to lock in 143 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: hard for the rest of the year and probably not. 144 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: Get Higher, right yeah and his so at plus, six 145 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: fifty his implied odds of winning it are fifteen point. 146 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: Four percent he has won it in forty percent of 147 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: his seasons as a starter, Right now SO and i 148 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: do think his true odds are at least double those 149 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: implied odds of fifteen point. Four percent, So, yeah Joe 150 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: like i'm eating the, chalk here happy to eat it 151 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: and wash it down with a big pine. Of lagger. 152 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: All, Right Well joe burrow was the other guy early 153 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: ON that i wanted To but i've kind of. HELD 154 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: off i was waiting a little bit, training camp whied 155 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: to see how things were going, to BREAK because i 156 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: thought there could be a possible historic season Here For 157 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: joe Burrow And jamar chase if everybody. Stays Healthy, Josh 158 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: allen i'm. Off Of so i've got to go all 159 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: the way down to the GUY that i hedged with 160 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: last YEAR because i look AT the nfc PAT and 161 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: i don't see any. REAL contenders i. REALLY don't, i 162 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: mean maybe the biggest contender For the eagles is inside, 163 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: the division and It's. THE cowboys, i mean you can 164 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: try selling me the forty nine ers all, you want 165 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: but with that quarterback situation, IN flux i just don't 166 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: Know if i'm. Buying It so hurts is at plus. 167 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Twelve hundred that's where, It opened that's where it's. Still 168 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: SITTING and i don't, understand this pat because we know 169 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be Tied. To record we know it's 170 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: going to. Be tied it's, a look these are, media, 171 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Awards right so the team that has a lot of 172 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: bas a lot, of, momentum right getting a lot. Of 173 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Publicity jalen hurts a plus twelve hundred to me is 174 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: the guy that we can look up with and this 175 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: team could potentially have what fourteen wins, This year like 176 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: that's not out of the realm. Of possibility and if 177 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: they just DOMINATE, the nfc Why Isn't jalen hurts a? 178 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: BETTER number i. Don't, know personally people maybe not buying 179 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 1: into what he did. LAST year i think that's Stupid 180 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: because i'm buying right back in. To, It so Mahomes, 181 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: and hurts those are. My investments who are your other 182 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: INVESTMENTS for mvp? 183 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: This year the conference factor, Is. Big joe you just. 184 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: MENTIONED it i think that's a loophole to. Be exploited 185 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: and it's kind of funny that of THE eight mvp 186 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: candidates with the, Shortest odds hurts is the only one 187 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: who plays IN. The nfc and this is a team 188 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: that has just loaded with talent on both sides of. 189 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: The Ball, howie Roseman THE eagles gm is an. Absolute, 190 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: wizard like there's a good Chance the eagles just trample 191 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: the rest of. The, Conference really dallas is the ONLY 192 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: team i could see like sort of threatening their primacy IN. 193 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: The NFC so I, mean HURTS hurts mvp candidacy is 194 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: likely to stand out If the eagles are just laying 195 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: waste to everyone in their path in. That conference, SO 196 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: yeah i. LIKE him i think he's a bargain at 197 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: plus twelve hundred and. 198 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: One, part pat you mentioned, something THERE and i don't 199 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: even quite grasp how deep. It is he's the only 200 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: one of the top eight guys on the board IN The, Nfc, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Rogers, 201 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: jackson lawrence those are the top. Eight guys hurts is 202 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: the only guy in this grouping IN, the nba the. Only, 203 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: one yeah, that's crazy, YOU know i, knew IT but 204 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: i didn't know it until you said it, out loud 205 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: that it really came in to creation. Like, that well 206 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: do you have any fun long? SHOTS too i know 207 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: some People think herbert could be. That guy, You know 208 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: lamar won this just a couple of. Years ago maybe 209 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: he is refreshed and happy with the new toys. He's 210 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: got but is there anybody else that might be an 211 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: interesting long shot that maybe you're not investing in. Right 212 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: now i've already Invested in Hurts. And mahomes i'm locked. 213 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: And loaded there there's another guy you either want to 214 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: invest in or maybe monitor over this first couple months 215 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: of the season for. 216 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: This award so The longest I've gone Joe Is trevor 217 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: LAWRENCE at i got him at plus, fifteen HUNDRED and 218 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: i think that's about where he. IS now I just 219 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: i think the somewhat longer odds are sort of tempting 220 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: because he had that nightmarish rookie Season Under urban meyer 221 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: and then makes huge strides last Year Under. Doug peterson 222 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: throws for over four thousand yards twenty five touchdowns And 223 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: the jaguars go nine, to eight make, the playoffs win 224 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: a PLAYOFF game, i mean if the Rapidly improving jaguars 225 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: take another step and, you know can get to like 226 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: eleven or twelve regular, SEASON wins I think lawrence would, 227 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: you KNOW his mvp candidacy might pop at that point 228 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: because he's leading this, upstart team, you know and continuing. 229 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: The ascent so if the numbers are good, for HIM 230 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: and i expect them to, be again and If the 231 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: jaguars take that step step up, IN class i think he. Could. 232 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: HIT yeah i think you are not far off. At 233 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: all we have not seen the Best Of trevor lawrence 234 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: and Now As. Calvin ridley if that all works out 235 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: to what the high end potential of that relationship, could 236 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: be could be a huge Thing For. Trevor lawrence let's 237 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: take a LOOK At ap player Of, the year, which is, 238 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: you know kind of Like The, Consolation prize like you're not, 239 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback so we're going to give you. An award 240 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of what this. Has become and last year 241 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: on this, VERY show i sat HERE and i got 242 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: up on my SOAPBOX and i yelled and Screened About 243 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: justin jefferson at plus, fourteen hundred and you, know it 244 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: it ended up hitting so if you invest in that it. 245 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Was good, guess What, justin jefferson this number open at 246 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: plus one thousand right now you can get a plus 247 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred again if you want to go, down, that 248 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: well it's hard not to. Like It jamar chase at 249 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: plus twelve hundred is actually the top of this board. Right. 250 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: Now now chase is the GUY that i bet early, 251 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: For this but Now that jefferson has gone from plus 252 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: one thousand to plus, Fourteen hundred i'm going to head 253 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: here with those. Two guys it's Gonna. Be chase it's 254 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Gonna be jefferson. For me and here's my argument for 255 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: the rest of. This group right. It's, McCaffrey obviously you 256 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: know he's capable of a, huge SEASON but i think 257 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: there's so much injury risk built into McCaffrey with the 258 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: workload he's had in, his career how many years he's 259 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: been in. THE league i don't think it's going to 260 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: be a quarterback Like a lamar Or a fields or 261 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: some of these other guys that are on. This grouping, 262 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: to me it's quarterback or BUS. For mvp and this 263 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: is the ward that they typically like to give to the. 264 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Non quarterbacks if you look at what's, going on there's 265 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: some interesting guys outside. Of This cooper cup is a fascinating. 266 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Long shot if he should get back To The cooper 267 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: cup of a couple, years ago he has opened up 268 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: at plus. Fourteen hundred no number now is plus. Three 269 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: thousand that's a huge. LONG shot I Think tyreek hill 270 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: plus two thousand also intriguing on, this board But chasing 271 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: jefferson to the top for, a reason and you're getting 272 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: spectacular odds. On THEM so i would keep this, One, 273 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: simple pat how do you feel about this when you 274 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: want to sprinkle some shares on a few different guys 275 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: or kind of hyper focus on the two and? Which 276 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: two if? 277 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: That so our approach on this might diverge a little, Bit, 278 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: here JOE because i have found this award to be 279 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: so UNPREDICTABLE, that, I like i just have a hard 280 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: time taking anyone at odds shorter than like twenty. To 281 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: one and, it's because like twelve of the last twenty, 282 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: five years the same PLAYER was Mvp And offensive player Of. 283 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: The year but like, you said we have seen a 284 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: trend of late where now not a single player has 285 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: walked away with both awards since Twenty Eighteen. Patrick mahomes 286 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 2: and it used to be like you didn't ever want 287 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: to take a wide receiver for because the only wide 288 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: receiver whoever won It Was. Jerry rice he won a couple. 289 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: Of them but now in three of the last, four 290 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: years we've seen wide receivers, Win It, Michael Thomas, cooper Cup, 291 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: Justin jefferson so suddenly wide receivers are. LOOKING viable i 292 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: don't think the price is quite Right on Jefferson. Or 293 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: chase i'd be more inclined To take jefferson at the, 294 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: longer odds, you know if you are inclined to go. 295 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: That WAY but i Do Like Cooper cup joe at plus. 296 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: THREE thousand, i mean he won this award in twenty 297 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: twenty one and was on track for another good season 298 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: last year until the high ankle spraining kind of ended his. Season. 299 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: PREMATURELY man, i mean one hundred and forty, five catches 300 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: a nine hundred and forty, seven yards and sixteen touchdowns 301 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Just spectacular and right Now the 302 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: rams have few other pass catchers again on, the roster 303 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: and Like If matthew stafford can just stay healthy and 304 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: turn in one more. Decent season cup should once again 305 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: have this dazzling set of numbers that are going to. 306 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: Attract ATTENTION so i think he's a pretty good bat 307 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: at his price at plus, three THOUSAND and i actually 308 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: kind of Like mahomes joe at plus thirty, Five, hundred 309 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: like are we sure that this is a non? Quarterback 310 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: AWARD like i know it's been trending. That way you're, Not, 311 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: roll like you're. 312 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: NOT wrong i think if they give it to a, 313 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: non quarterback it could be like the feel. Good story 314 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: if It's a fields who really cops this year and 315 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: has like a thousand yards rushing and, you know thirty 316 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: five hundred, yards passing but isn't, good enough Like the bears. 317 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: Aren't good. You know lamar kind of fits that, Bill 318 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: too and they're both really close in priced twenty five 319 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: Hundred for jackson plus twenty eight Hundred. For fields i'm 320 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: with You, on Cup like cup is the one that's 321 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of like you. Circle it, you're, like well if 322 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: you could say on the Field and stafford sales of, 323 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: the field it's the Combo that i'm, Worried about like 324 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: that combination of both those. Things HAPPENING but i throw 325 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: out the running backs for this AWARD because i just don't. 326 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: SEE anybody i don't think. IT'S McCaffrey i don't Think. 327 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: IT'S chubb i don't think any of those guys this 328 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: year can challenge for. This award Maybe if bijon just 329 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: takes everything. By storm but we'll get More to bjon in. 330 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: A second i still Like the Chase and jefferson odds 331 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: and you get ten to one on something you bet 332 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: that makes some money, on it and they're going to 333 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: be very public figures for, this AWARD and i think maybe. 334 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: Rightfully so But the mahomes thing very interesting. As well 335 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: let's switch Gears To defensive player Of. The year this is. 336 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: Another one this was disappointing. For me. LAST year i 337 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: Was On. Mikah parsons he Had won rookie Of the 338 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: year the year before at the. Defensive player this year 339 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: he is at the top of. The board it opened 340 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: at plus. Seven hundred as soon as it, came, OUT 341 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: boom i put money on it because why now the 342 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: best number you can get on it is plus. Five 343 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: fifty the other people in this award at, the top 344 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: You Got miles garrett at plus eight hundred on, betting 345 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: pros YOU. Got tj watt plus, Eight Fifty nick bose at, 346 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Plus fourteen sauce at. Plus seventeen then a little bit 347 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: further down You Got, Max Crosby, Aaron Donald, hassan redick 348 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: who had a great season last year For. The eagles 349 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: but look a lot of times this is about cumulative. 350 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Sack totals this, is about, you know, once again playing for. PUBLIC. 351 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Teams tj watt, plays for, you know a very public 352 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: team team With The pittsburgh, steeler, defense Right that's steeler 353 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: defense was a very. Famous thing the same Thing With, 354 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: nick bosa right coming off of last, Year's award parsons. 355 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: Was ahead and then in that tail end of, the season, 356 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: you Know after watt had, That injury bosa went Ahead 357 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: of parsons and the rest. Is History, BUT pat i 358 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: keep coming back to this. One thing, LAST. Year michaeh 359 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: parsons in, the offseason OR actually i said this, past 360 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: offseason He Found. Andrew wentworth he worked out with Him 361 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: In los angeles to understand the offensive line. Position better 362 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: when you put in that kind, of work, to me 363 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: that's a guy on the precipice of a very. Special 364 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: Season michael parsons, has speed he's, got power he's, got 365 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: sackability he's, got versatility he's got everything, you want and 366 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: you're still getting a pretty good number on this ONE 367 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: where I Think michael parsons could really just completely break 368 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: out and dominate the league. This year what are your 369 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Thoughts On defensive player Of the year and some of 370 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: the guys that are the top candidates. 371 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: For it so we've seen the sack leader walk away 372 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: with this award in three of the three of the past. 373 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: Five seasons IT'S Clear Nfl defensive player Of the year 374 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: voters value sacks a. GREAT deal, i, Mean heck Joe 375 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: a watt brother has won this award in four of 376 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: the last. Eleven years it's true it is a. Sack 377 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: like that's not to say a defensive back can't. Win 378 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: it we've seen. That Happen stefan gilmour won it in. 379 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen and then, you know back in the first 380 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: decade of the, two thousands we Saw, Ed Reid, bob 381 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: Sanders And. Troy palomalo it was a safety award for. A, 382 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: while So but i'm with You. ON parsons, i mean 383 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: he is the he is the shortest odds for. Good 384 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: reason he's been in the league two years and he's 385 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: finished second IN the dpoy balloting. Both times thirteen sacks 386 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: as a rookie in twenty, twenty one thirteen and a half. 387 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: LAST year pff graded him as the second best edge 388 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: rusher in the league, last year Behind Only miles Garrett. 389 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: And joe here's the. Big thing cowboys are a, glamour 390 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: team so they are going to be in the, spotlight 391 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: more and you know they're going to play more high, 392 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: profile Games and parsons defensive exploits will be prominently featured in. 393 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: Those games, SO yeah i think he's a really good 394 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: Play at, i'm sorry what is? He now he's done 395 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: a plus five to fifty five to. 396 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: Fifty, already So and i'm who loves to Bet the, 397 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: cowboys stuff Like the cowboys are, public teams like Betting. 398 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: The yankees, you know it's a little like you roll, 399 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: your eyes you don't want to, do it you hold 400 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: your nose and you. Do IT but i think there's certain, 401 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: instances where like, you said it works in. Your. Favor 402 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: right they are a, public team which means, primetime games 403 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: which means, more discussion. More Talks if parsons. Is good 404 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: he's going to, be great and if, he's great it's 405 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: going to be legendary in terms of what the press 406 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: clippings are going to be about this season. For him, 407 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: and look there's some definitely. WORTHY guys, i know you 408 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: know you've Talked About sauce gardner maybe having. That opportunity 409 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: my long Shot Is quinn williams On the jets for 410 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: the same REASON because I think i'm. With You the 411 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: jets defense is going to get a lot. Of publicity 412 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: they're getting a lot of love already off. Hard Knocks 413 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: quinn williams is that long shot. Right now he is 414 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: at plus thirty. Three hundred if you want to throw 415 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: a dart, on somebody He's Behind, Joe Hutchinson, haason reddick all. 416 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: Those guys that is a huge long, Shot ODDS but 417 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: i don't think a. CRAZY conversation i know you can 418 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: make a Case For sauce, Gardner too but the THING 419 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: that i would come back To with sauce you talk, about, 420 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: numbers right totals, For sacks he's not gonna have a 421 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: lot of picks because people aren't gonna throw. To him 422 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: can he create This revis island two point zero basically 423 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: around him where everybody just starts to coalesce around him 424 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: being the best corner in, the league and that hype 425 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: train has has basically a whole life of. 426 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: Its, own yeah that's the thing he needs to become 427 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: like the NFL's. Iconic cornerback and. There's competition, You know 428 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: patrick Certain in denver, is terrific but the high profile thing, Does, 429 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: Matter joe and IT'S why i Like Your quinn. Williams 430 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: case and, you know might have to get in on that. 431 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: Action Myself the jets are going to be a very. 432 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: Public team we know that defense is terrific and it's 433 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: going to shut. People, Down sauce you've got the cornerback 434 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: thing working against you a. Little bit only four cornerbacks 435 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: in the last thirty years have won, The Award rod 436 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: Woods And, Deon Sanders charles Woods And. Stefan gilmore but, 437 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: YOU know i do Think with sauce being The defensive 438 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: rookie Of the year, last year like he's already getting 439 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: some acknowledgments led the league and pass, his defense he 440 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: was PFF's highest. Graded cornerback the spotlight thing, is big 441 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: but the one thing that could be A problem joe 442 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: is if teams just don't throw, at him like you're 443 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: not going To see sauce with ten interceptions. 444 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: This year people just aren't going to challenge him. 445 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: Like that but if he does become like this white, Oh, 446 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: midible yeah becim. 447 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: A Mythology like, revis did or you know for that 448 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Year the gilmour was was as good as he Was 449 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Or rod woodson right like like those. 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Pretty easy 479 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: that's all you, gotta do, All, Right pat let's get 480 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: to the. Rookies here this is another, one too or 481 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: just you, Know me it's. Real easy now this Number 482 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: For bjeon Robinson For offensive player Of the year rookie 483 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: wise opened at plus one, seventy five and you can 484 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: get it at plus. Three hundred now plus, Three hundred 485 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: i'm all in plus one. SEVENTY five i was a 486 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: little not. SO sure. I know, typically again we've seen 487 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks come into the league now start. 488 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: RIGHT away i just don't know if any of these 489 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are set up for success for. This AWARD whereas 490 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: i Look at bijon at the three to ONE and, i, 491 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: say yeah that. Makes sense and if It's, NOT bijon 492 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: I think i'm surpassing some of these Quarterbacks and i'm 493 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: possibly looking at a wide Receiver and i'll get to 494 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: that name in. A second but for one of, these 495 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: quarterbacks whether It Be, Bryce, young Richardson, OR stroud i 496 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: feel like it's got to be a performance where they 497 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: get to. The playoffs And Maybe bryce young has the 498 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: clearest path on paper to do that in that division 499 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: that's a little weak with the talent, around them that's 500 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: probably better Than what stroud is being. Surrounded With and 501 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: richardson looks like a huge work. In Progress Especially jonathan 502 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: taylor's nonsense. This offseason how do you see this, rookie 503 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: BOARD because i think this one is a little bit 504 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: more interesting than a. Year's past i'm totally with you On. 505 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: Bijon joe at plus one, SEVENTY five i don't. See 506 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: value but at plus, Three hundred i'm smashing THAT if 507 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: i can get it, AT quarterback i totally agree with. 508 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: YOU too i just don't Think the colts Or the 509 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: texans are going to be good enough To propel Stroud 510 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: and richardson Into offensive rookie Of the. Year, CONSIDERATION like 511 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: i just don't see. That happening, and Yes the panthers 512 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: have a much easier path in a division With, The, Saints. 513 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: Falcons buccaneers, SO plus i Also Think Joe bryce young 514 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: is closer to being a FULLY formed nfl starting Quarterback 515 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: than Richardson or. STROUD are i think those guys are 516 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: going to need a little bit. More Seasoning whereas young 517 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: has been widely regarded as this savant who just picks 518 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: up offenses so quickly and is like the, point guard 519 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: the distributing Point Guard chris paul OF. The nba so 520 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: he if he really is that and shows that right 521 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: away And the panthers WIN The, nfc SOUTH then i 522 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: think he's got an excellent chance to pay off at plus. 523 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: Five hundred, BUT like i don't think it's a great 524 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: bargain at, those ODDS but i see maybe a smidge of. 525 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: VALUE there i see a little bit of value later on. 526 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: The board and again full transparency here on. THE show 527 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: i always tell People what, i'm Betting what i'm. In 528 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: on you can go follow me bettingpros, dot Com, slast 529 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: joe and you go watch. Everything too it's. Very Transparent 530 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: jay flowers is the interesting one to Me that i'm 531 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: starting to again coalesce around in my brain because plus 532 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: three thousand is the Number For, za FLOWERS and i 533 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: think there's a good chance that he is the number 534 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: one receiving option For The baltimore ravens. THIS year i 535 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: don't think that's a. HOT take i think it's actually 536 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of lukewarm and just kind. Of obvious, You know 537 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: adell's coming off, Knee surgery he's an. OLDER player i 538 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: think he can still. BE useful I Know mark andrews is, 539 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: terrific talent but, you Know In la batman's never on, 540 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: The FIELD so i don't you want to Hear. About 541 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: batman but my, Thing here PATT is i keep going 542 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: back to the, same thing, which is, you know sometimes 543 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: it is the, easy answer and it's right in front 544 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: of you and some, you know You Watch, dave flowers 545 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: you listen to what's going on. In camp you see 546 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: all the buzz, around HIM and i think it's, all 547 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: warranted like this was a guy a great. College career 548 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: you're A big, cfb guy. YOU know I Know thorll 549 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: we'll back this up, as well and all OF our, 550 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: vp folks, you know on the college. FOOTBALL side i 551 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: think it's a real chance that if he does have 552 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: the SEASON that i think he's capable of. In fantasy 553 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: this is where fantasy and wagering kind of overlap a, 554 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: little bit he could push for. THIS award i still 555 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: think it would be tough for him to win IT 556 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: because i Just, think Bijon it's Bjeon or buss for. 557 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: Me Here but zay's the one THAT if i want 558 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: to throw a dart on, somebody late that's the one guy. For. 559 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: Me Now defensive player Of the year for the, rookie 560 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: side this is another. Interesting One will anderson's at the 561 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: top of. THIS board a plus. Five Hundred jalen carter 562 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: is the number. Two guy it was plus. EIGHT hundred 563 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: I wish i. Bet it then it's down to. Plus 564 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: seven this IS when i got In On. Jalen carter You, 565 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: got witherspoon You Got christian gonzales both the corners at plus, 566 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: one Thousand and gonzales at plus. Twelve Hundred, tyree wilson 567 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: who could be a, very big, you know sack, specialist 568 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: year especially working on the other Side Of. Max crosby 569 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: you can see a lot of, you know no double 570 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: teams for him because everyone's Worried, about Crosby so wilson 571 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: could have a huge. Season potentially you mentioned sack, Totals 572 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: earlier but, To Me jalen carter is that chalk that 573 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: stands out because he was that guy who was probably 574 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: going to be top of the board before all the 575 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: extracurricular things were going on there that had to get 576 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: solved and resolved. With him, but man he ends up With, 577 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: the eagles another HIGH profile nfc, dominant team a. Great 578 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: defense I'm On jalen carter for this award on. The 579 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: chalk what are your thoughts On defensive rookie Of The 580 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: year first, OF. 581 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: All i agree with You On. Ze flowers. INTERESTING pick, 582 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: I Mean lamar jackson calls. Him joystick that's. An education 583 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: what sort of athleticism Movement Ability jay. Flowers has and 584 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: you know he's obviously getting a big quarterback upgrade Going 585 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: From boston College To. Lamar, jackson yeah so if he 586 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: can get over that key thousand, YARD threshold i think 587 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: he has a. Good chance i'm with you On defensive 588 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: rookie Of The year joe follow the, sacks again, AND 589 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: like i don't Know If jalen carter. 590 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: At his odds. 591 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: As good As the eagles pass, rush is and they 592 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: led the league in sacks. Last, YEAR like i don't 593 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: know if he's going to get to double digits playing on. 594 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: The inside the guy kind of like more On the 595 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: eagles at much longer Odds Is, nolan smith. 596 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: Which an interesting. One, too yeah sub. 597 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: Four, four speed screaming off, the edge and you know 598 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: they've got so many pass rushers on. 599 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: That team like it's a. LYING situation, i know, some 600 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: surgery but they say he's gonna be ready. WEEK one, 601 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean i Just the eagles are. Bust man i'm, 602 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Telling you. I'm man let's go. 603 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: And opponents can't scheme to stop a single pass rusher on. 604 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: That team you just can't or you're gonna get destroyed by. 605 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: Someone Else And nolan smith could be the someone else in. 606 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: This DEFENSE and i also sort Of like. WILL McDonald 607 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: i know you sort of like, him, too right get 608 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: a sack artist on a. Good defense and when You 609 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: get smith and McDonald at longer odds than you're getting 610 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: some of, these, favorites yeah count. 611 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: Me. In yeah will McDonald is definitely another, one too 612 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: where that guy just again, high motor gets to, the 613 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: quarterback is really quick off. The line and this is, 614 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: you know again we're talking. ABOUT it i don't KNOW 615 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: why i keep coming back, to it BUT it's i 616 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: think it's because we don't always get to watch. This 617 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: level it's whenever you watch on, hard knocks the granular level. 618 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: Of granular it's hard for me to speak sometimes granular 619 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: level there. You go there are times the charm of 620 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: things where you're looking at it and you're watching players 621 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: work and watching, rookies work and you see rookies who 622 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: just hit the, ground running and You're watching will McDonald 623 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: work on the offensive lineman Of the jets who're. Pretty 624 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: good it says a lot. To me McDonald's another, guy 625 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: too and you look at the odds for him plus 626 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred for, This Award nolan smith plus twenty. 627 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: Two hundred those are two long shots. TO circle i 628 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: Agree with pat on both. Of those so we'll move 629 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: On To comeback player Of the Year and coach Of. 630 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: THE year i guess here's the Question With comeback player. 631 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: A year i'm gonna keep This. Brief tomorrow hamlin's already at. 632 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Minus odds he minus. One fifty everybody bet the crap out. 633 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: Of it now it's minus two. Eighty five you can't even. 634 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: Get it so do we just punt this? Award completely 635 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: or can? ANYBODY else, I Mean john metchi is the 636 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: only one that comes to mind for me because the 637 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: kid came back. From cancer, so like, it's like is 638 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: this are we can anyone's story Match The damar? HAMLIN'S 639 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: story i guess the answer is, Probably not so do 640 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: you just stay away from this completely? All? 641 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: Season pet i'd almost bet him at the, Minus, ODDS joe, 642 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: i mean like and GENERALLY like. 643 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have the caja do? 644 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: It right the NEXT bet i Place On comeback player 645 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: Of the year will be the FIRST because i don't 646 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 2: like betting on sentimentality, over results which is what this 647 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: too often tends, to BE and i think this, Year 648 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: especially but, of course With What tamar hamlin went through 649 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: last year and how high profile that, Story, was yeah 650 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: he should be the run way favorite here and. He is, 651 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: you know no one likes betting awards at minus money 652 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: like that just seems like you're you're walking into a. 653 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: Bear trap but in, THIS case i think you could 654 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: make a case for putting something down on him and 655 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: very likely being rewarded. 656 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: For It, all right Last one's coach Of, the year 657 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: and this Is my. Achilles heel this is the ONE 658 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: that i ALWAYS think i have a good, beat ON 659 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: and i. Ever Do so i'm looking at two guys. 660 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: This Year arthur smith Because again i've been On the 661 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: falcons has been the theme of. The show if you're 662 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: watching the last couple. Of weeks raybond likes, The falcons 663 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: reebar likes. The falcons joey p likes. THE falcons i 664 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: don't Know what pat thinks About. The Falcons But arthur 665 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: smith the plus, fourteen hundred they can win. THAT division 666 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: i think that makes a lot. OF sense I Like 667 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: robert solid to a plus, sixteen hundred but Because that 668 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: jets crappy scheduled open, The season i'm. Gonna wait we're 669 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: gonna wait For the jets to be two and Five 670 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: and i'm gonna look At That robert solid number AGAIN 671 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: because i bet it will be. Even better and if they, 672 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: finish strong what a story that would be If the 673 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: jets get into the playoffs or EVEN dare i say win? 674 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: That division pat, any inclinations any early thoughts on the 675 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: years at a. STAY away i. 676 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: Think the bar is too High. For salah i'm interested 677 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: IN Two nfc south coaches AND uh i apologize for 678 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: not having the Odds On frank wright in front of me, Right. 679 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: Now joe but like that makes, interesting one so let's talk. 680 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: About, it yeah that would be the. Other one he's got. 681 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: Longer ODDS but i do think this division is. Wide 682 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: OPEN and i know you know some smart people you're 683 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: Talking about Raybond and riebar who really Like the falcons 684 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: to come out. 685 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: Of this sounds like a, hardware STORE doesn't i gotta 686 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: Go to Raybond and rebars to go get some. Get 687 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: something the. 688 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: Mower's, broken yeah two of my, favorite guys so hard 689 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 2: to go against, them there but it would not surprise 690 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: me all Off the panthers. Did, THAT like i Think 691 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: the panthers are just as well equipped As the falcons 692 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: to win this Division If bryce young is always. Cracked up, 693 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: to me that is. The key If If bryce young clicks. 694 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 2: Right away so maybe not a bad idea to go 695 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: all in on a. Specific Narrative frank Reich for coach 696 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: Of the Year And bryce Young For offensive rookie Of. 697 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: The year there, you go and maybe a little something 698 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: On the panthers to WIN The nfc. 699 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: South too he is plus twenty. FIVE hundred i just 700 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: looked up where it Was on Fanduels or reikis And 701 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: also Mike tom win a plus sixteen hundred if he 702 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: could somehow Get this steelers team back. To prominence what. 703 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: A star, i mean one of the best coaches in 704 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: the LEAGUE that i just think never gets enough credit 705 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: no matter what the. 706 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: Thing, IS like i know, he's like but he's already 707 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: got the bar at a world. Record level it's the 708 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: problem since he's never finished sub five Hundred like tomlin 709 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: would probably have to go like the chuck Right. 710 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: Now, david Campbell and i'm running away from IT because 711 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 1: i don't know what the lions are with expectations and. 712 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: Nobody does so let's not pretend like. 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