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Speaker 1: Ron Anian, is your next Volkswagen gonna have windshields in it?

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Speaker 1: Me out of beer bottles? Yeah, it's possible, saying called

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Speaker 1: bear contry. Do. Let's go around here, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: A good heating system will blow. We'll put out anywhere

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Speaker 1: between one hundred and twenty and one hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: degrees abduct temperature, so that you know you know you've

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Speaker 1: got that much.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ronananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 2: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but.

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Speaker 1: I am here to take your call at eight five

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Speaker 1: five five six, ninety nine hundred and now pee.

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Speaker 2: Running.

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Speaker 1: We had a late model Honda twenty ten Honda Cord

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Speaker 1: in the shop this week that needed a catalytic converter.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, it's funny when you let things go,

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Speaker 1: When you don't repair things right away, it's snowballs. They

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Speaker 1: start to accumulate. Problems just just mount up. And this

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Speaker 1: was no exception to the rule. You know, I've always

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Speaker 1: explained to you and also to customers that you know,

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Speaker 1: if you ride around with the check engine light on,

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Speaker 1: you run the risk of problems on an older, high

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Speaker 1: mileage vehicle accumulating and you won't know. You won't know

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Speaker 1: until you know. You won't know until you get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of it. You won't know until you get

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Speaker 1: to the end. This particular Honda was sitting a P

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Speaker 1: zero four to thirty cat efficiency fault one hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty seven thousand miles on it, and you know, that

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Speaker 1: was the only thing wrong with it or that we saw.

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Speaker 1: So I ran through diagnostics and I did my testing

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Speaker 1: and measurement and yeah, okay, the cat's not waking up.

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Speaker 1: This is the radiator side. This is the V six

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Speaker 1: three point five liter V six the catalytic converter on

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Speaker 1: the radiator side. Fortunately, because it's a little easier to

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Speaker 1: get to, you know, a little little convincing of the

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Speaker 1: bolts to come out because they were rusted in like

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Speaker 1: everything would expect that, you know, thirteen years old, almost

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Speaker 1: two hundred thousand miles, and it needed a cat. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, first of all, you got to find a cat.

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Speaker 1: Han didn't have one in stock, nor did they think

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Speaker 1: they were going to not for quite some time, you know. Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: a trip to the local supply house we found a cat,

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Speaker 1: and I explained the difference of the customer. You know,

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Speaker 1: the aftermarket cat may not last ten years like the

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Speaker 1: original one or all the original one lasted what, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thirteen years I spent. You know, there will be there

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Speaker 1: will be a shorter life cycle of an aftermarket cat.

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Speaker 1: But there's also a huge price difference. It's half the price.

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Speaker 1: And we kind of had that conversation. He understood that

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Speaker 1: we couldn't find two sensors. There was an O two

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Speaker 1: and an air fuel sensor, until I stumbled upon one of

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Speaker 1: my suppliers had some ngks in and I verified the

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Speaker 1: part number on the NJK website, which was always handy,

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Speaker 1: and we put a couple of NGK sensors in this

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Speaker 1: and air fuel and an oxygen sensor, and we got

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Speaker 1: this car back on the road and lo and behold,

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Speaker 1: you know, or P zero four to thirty problem went away.

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Speaker 1: This cat was back to working, and both cats lit

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Speaker 1: off now and I could tell that they were operating

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Speaker 1: as design. But now I've got to get the car

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Speaker 1: to run. Monitors monitors are the self test monitors are.

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Speaker 1: It's like high school, right, what was your worth subject

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Speaker 1: in high school? Your worth subject? Maybe it was math. Well,

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Speaker 1: you completed every math test, but you may not have

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Speaker 1: passed every math test. The math tests that you didn't

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Speaker 1: pass would turn on the check engine light or you know,

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Speaker 1: dad's saying you're grounded or moms saying you're grounded until

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Speaker 1: you pass math. Well, in this case, it was starting

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Speaker 1: to set a P zero one thirty nine because the

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Speaker 1: CAT efficiency passed, and once the computer saw that CAT

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Speaker 1: efficiency was correct, it ran that monitor and passed. It

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Speaker 1: then started to look at oxygen sensor. And I've seen

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Speaker 1: this both ways and I still can't come up with

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Speaker 1: because my argument is the way the car computer knows

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Speaker 1: and efficiency level. I've seen cars run CAT monitors before

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Speaker 1: it ran the cat monitor. It passed, It ran the

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Speaker 1: the two monitor because it saw something with the bank

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Speaker 1: one sensor too downstream sensor for the rear cat. It

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Speaker 1: didn't like that cat sensor. That two censor was slow

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Speaker 1: Was it a difference between a new sensor and an

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Speaker 1: old sensor. Well, i've heard that argument, I've seen that story.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more the lookup table in the PCM

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Speaker 1: I don't think it cares or knows one's one's new

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Speaker 1: case of just one sensor was getting tired. For all,

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Speaker 1: it's almost two hundred thousand miles. So I ran it

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Speaker 1: around and I could never get that car to pass.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get it passed. It would never run the

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Speaker 1: two monitor. It didn't run the two monitor. It didn't

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Speaker 1: that it has to have in order to even accept

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Speaker 1: possibility for state inspection. On a hunch, because I couldn't

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Speaker 1: prove that sensor bad on a hunch, I changed it,

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Speaker 1: put a factory fresh NNGKO two sensor in it, just

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Speaker 1: like I had done to the front, and took it

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Speaker 1: out for another road test. Bang. It was kind of neat.

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Speaker 1: Right after so many miles and so many key cycles,

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Speaker 1: of driving highway speed fifty five crews on. I always

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Speaker 1: run with the crews on when I run by monitors,

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Speaker 1: a steady foot than I can. I think that vehicle

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Speaker 1: ran it so two monitor and passed. It ran the

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Speaker 1: fuel system monitor and passed, And the vehicle is ready

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Speaker 1: for state inspection. And the point is you've got to

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Speaker 1: be aware driving that car around with a check engine light.

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Speaker 1: One problem may not be lurking, you may be creating.

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Speaker 1: And it also depends on you know, how long you're

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Speaker 1: driving with that check engine light on this particular car.

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Speaker 1: I knew for a fact the customer wasn't in a

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Speaker 1: maybe fourteen sixteen months something like that, almost a year

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Speaker 1: and a half, and they finally got caught up and

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Speaker 1: were able to do some repairs. And as he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, Ron, it's cheaper to replace this and put

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Speaker 1: a couple of grand in it than it is to

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Speaker 1: go out and buy another car. And that you know

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Speaker 1: right now, that surely can be said. So you know,

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Speaker 1: just be aware there is a logical sequence to cars,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you could be you could have more

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Speaker 1: after you're done with the first problem. The keys just

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Speaker 1: got to be moving forward in a positive manner. So

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Speaker 1: just just a real story from the Bay this week.

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Speaker 1: The UAW. Has anybody got any updates on the UAW strike.

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Speaker 1: There's a UAW strike in the news pending. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I got settled. They didn't read anything about it

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Speaker 1: that they're talking that there's going to be you know,

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Speaker 1: the Big three are talking about going out on strike

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Speaker 1: and if they do, there's going to be a shortage

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Speaker 1: of car. It's great, just what we need harder to

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Speaker 1: get something that's already hard to get. So just be

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Speaker 1: aware if you're thinking of buying a car, now may

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Speaker 1: be the moment. Now may be the time to do that,

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Speaker 1: because things might get ugly in the next couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks or uglier if that's possible. So let's go over

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Speaker 1: to the phones. Let's go to Joe in Pennsylvania with

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Speaker 1: an O fort Buick and an engine. Knock, Joe, this

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Speaker 1: or how can I help?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, But anyway, did you ever hear of

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Speaker 4: the oil fielder problem like a fram causing that it

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Speaker 4: clogs up and it's only got No. Ninety one thousand

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Speaker 4: on it. I have these fram oil filters and here

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Speaker 4: I put on after a few hundred miles in just

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Speaker 4: started knocking. Well, I changed oil, then put slightly thicker

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Speaker 4: oil in it with that Lucas stabilizer, and now it's

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Speaker 4: much much quieter. But it sounded like a knock from

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Speaker 4: the bottom of the engine. The usually these engines last

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Speaker 4: quarter million miles. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I have not heard any problems

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Speaker 1: with FRAM. I will ask you know where you're getting

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Speaker 1: your FRAM filters from. Is it from a reputable source

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure where I got them from. Well, maybe

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Speaker 4: a flame market or somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: And you know understand, okay, that counterfeit auto parts is

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Speaker 1: such a huge business right now, that there are guys

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Speaker 1: out there reproducing everything I will not buy. You know,

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Speaker 1: as tempting as it is, you know, I will not

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Speaker 1: buy certain things online or flea markets or garage say

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Speaker 1: I generally don't go to them anyway. But you know,

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Speaker 1: my concern is anybody can make any filter look like

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Speaker 1: a FRAM or a Delco or a Wix or a

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Speaker 1: so on. Think of it like this. If if FRAM

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Speaker 1: is it just that one engine? It wouldn't be applicable

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Speaker 1: to other engines as well.

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Speaker 4: And garages around here say that they're no good and

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Speaker 4: online they don't have anything good to say about it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything. I've I I don't currently use FRAM.

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Speaker 1: I know of garages around me that do use FRAM

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Speaker 1: and they haven't had an issue as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: fram is the preferred oil filter of most of the

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Speaker 1: engine builders, the performance guys that I'm acquainted with. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's a better grade of frame or a different

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Speaker 1: different brand of frame. If you put a different brand

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Speaker 1: of oil filter on, you know, does the engine operate properly?

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Speaker 4: Well? Anyway I put that looks heavy duty stabilize it,

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Speaker 4: which is like STP. I guess right, No, it quiets

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Speaker 4: it down a lot. I just obviously something happened with

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Speaker 4: the engine there.

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Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind that if that filter, if that

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Speaker 1: filter was restricted, and it was a good quality filter

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Speaker 1: and a correct frame, not a counterfeit piece, it should

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Speaker 1: go into bypass and just not filter and not oil

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Speaker 1: star of the engine. And if it did oil starts

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Speaker 1: the engine, you would have automatically gotten an oil light

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Speaker 1: or a pressure warning. Provided all the dash.

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Speaker 4: GEDs pressure said one hundred and thirty pounds.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind oil pressure is determined by bearing clearance,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily by filter or oil viscosity. It has some

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Speaker 1: bearing on it, no pun intended, but not as much

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Speaker 1: as you might think. So the only way you're going

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Speaker 1: to prove it is go out to an autopart store

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Speaker 1: real frame filter, or what we'll call a real frame filter,

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Speaker 4: I'll try a nap of gold or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I said, should I use like ten W

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Speaker 1: No, I would use it.

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Speaker 5: I would.

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Speaker 1: I would use whatever spec calls for. Wasn't that a

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it says five thirty.

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Speaker 1: Or whatever, But right, what does it saying? What is it?

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Speaker 1: What does it say in the oil fill cap?

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Speaker 4: I don't have a taggling anymore?

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Speaker 1: they were either five thirty or ten thirty oil. You know,

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Speaker 1: Viscosity's okay? What is it hiding? I mean, listen, if

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Speaker 4: I bought some elderly lady here right western.

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Speaker 1: So the you know, the problem kind of becomes you

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I got that STP or that Lucas very thick stabilizer,

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's gonna get cold out there. Were you

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Speaker 4: No between Pittsburgh and Morgantown, West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah you're a little south. All right,

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Speaker 1: Well we're glad to have.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll just keep putting better fields and like the

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Speaker 4: nap a gold or something like that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Right, do you have a Do you have a local AutoZone?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Once you get out the AutoZone, they've got a wide

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Speaker 1: able to help you with oil selection. You know, I

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Speaker 1: of the pan. All right, they did sledge up the filters.

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Speaker 1: What does the inside of the valve cover look like?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it brown and cruddy?

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Speaker 4: Oh it's perfect, It looks perfect.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just being sure. So but you know you may

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Speaker 1: want to find you may want to find and use

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Speaker 4: Change save that, okay, change all right?

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Speaker 1: Good good?

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Speaker 4: Then, like I I wonder how long this thing's going

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Speaker 4: to last?

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Speaker 1: Well, you don't know how long am I? How long

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Speaker 1: are you? Are I going to last? Right, my friend?

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Speaker 1: We hope a good long time.

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Speaker 4: So all right, all right, kitty, change oil much quicker

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Speaker 1: Every twenty five hundred and three thousand, and see what

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Speaker 1: it looks like. If it's coming out dirty, you know

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Speaker 4: I just figured I had bad luck.

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Speaker 1: No, you don't have bad luck, So just simple start

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Speaker 1: all right. You're very welcome, you're very welcome. Be well,

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Speaker 1: I'm running any of the car. Doctor, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: right after this.

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Speaker 5: Don't go away, Oh god, that's right.

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Speaker 6: If you call and we're not live, you can leave

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Speaker 6: a message and we'll call you back to get you

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Speaker 6: on the air with Ron eight five six zero nine

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Ron there he is, Hey, let's go to

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Speaker 6: And hey Dad, yeah, Hey, I wanted to follow up

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Speaker 6: with you, but maybe back in June. It's got a

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Speaker 6: two thousand and eight months of three with the two

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Speaker 6: point three leader in an automatic transmission and the UH.

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Speaker 6: It was a case where the you'd be driving along

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Speaker 6: most commonly from fifth gear to third year. And I thought,

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Speaker 6: the odd thing about it wasn't showing any kind of

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Speaker 6: the tcm UH reconditioned.

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Speaker 1: Right there was there was There was a software update

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Speaker 6: Right, so here all that and ended up what I did,

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Speaker 6: I just because I cleaned all the contacts and everything

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Speaker 6: It took care of it.

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Speaker 1: It's a dream car, right well, I love that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's listen. That's all part of it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's part of diagnostics. Diagnostics and sometimes telling

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Speaker 1: in a previous show, we had a caller Bill for

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Speaker 1: it knows input chef speed, what output chef speed should be.

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Speaker 1: It knows what engine RPM should be. It's all there

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Speaker 1: were going through. So sure, that's always a possibility. That's

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Speaker 1: always a possibility. I'm glad it's solved.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, But I have a question for you in

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Speaker 6: regards to another transmission. I've got a it's a two

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Speaker 6: automatic right, and really it's about two hundred and forty

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Speaker 6: five thousand miles on it, right, and it just some

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Speaker 6: of the shifting with seemed odd, so I figured we'll

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Speaker 6: just changed some of the SOLINOI on it and on

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Speaker 6: there's a dual dull selenoid there, right. I swapped that,

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Speaker 6: swapped that one out, and when I went to drive

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Speaker 6: proper gear, so I took it off. Put you cleaned

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Speaker 6: it up. But I noticed in the reservoir there's two

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Speaker 1: What what?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: What reservoirs?

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Speaker 6: Dan? Well, and maybe not the reservoirs where it's where

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Speaker 6: the the selenoid is with the you know, I know

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Speaker 6: what the hants. They seem to be all external, but

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Speaker 6: it literally sits right on top. It's like underneath the battery.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, SI, let me pull over and

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Speaker 1: take this pause. We'll continue this when we come back,

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Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes there's re learns involved, and then

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Speaker 1: where did the solenoids come from? And then if you

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Speaker 1: put the old solenoid back in. But I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: Let's sit tight, let me pull over, take this pause.

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Speaker 1: We'll return right after this. I'm running Ady in the car. Doctor,

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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 5: Ron's into own the Auto Zone Studio and he'll be

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Auto Zone Studio. Here's Ron. Let's

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Speaker 1: get back to Dan in Delaware. Dan, you're still there, sir. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you changed what components? Because understand there's there's pressure

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Speaker 1: I believe you're on the inside of the trends and

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Speaker 1: the pressure control on top. They're all they're all common

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Speaker 1: But what did you change? So?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, if this thing came as a kid, And

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Speaker 6: it took care of it, took care of the problem.

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Speaker 6: So with this accord, I was starting to have some

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Speaker 6: just odd shifts where again it wasn't showing any kind

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Speaker 6: I'll just I'll just swap out those parts and take

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Speaker 6: basically like a last ditch effort to get some more

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: But so in miss I made as I look back,

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Speaker 6: I said, there's a like a solenoid on that sits

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Speaker 6: one on the top, and there's a few others but

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Speaker 6: I didn't change those when I took it out first.

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Speaker 6: Then I can't remember exact scenario, but it it almost

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Speaker 6: was definitely a transmission fluid starting to burn or something

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Speaker 1: So let's let's cut to the chase. If if yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you put everything back to the way it was,

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Speaker 1: does the trans shift normal?

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Speaker 6: No? But the problem is when I took that top

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Speaker 6: more like chambers. The one chamber was empty. It wasn't

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Speaker 6: like which I know that's not supposed to be that way,

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Speaker 6: So put the old parts back on. I damaged the

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Speaker 6: one part, uh the solenoid when I was taking it out.

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Speaker 6: It dropped to a crack, so I couldn't replace that one.

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Speaker 6: But right now, what happened is when I go from

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Speaker 6: you can't find first gear. It's like it starts in

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Speaker 6: second or third year. So I didn't know. Could I

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Speaker 6: have damaged sure when I had that burning smell? Well, no,

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Speaker 6: let me back.

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Speaker 1: Let's let me cut to the chase. You know, first

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Speaker 1: of all Honda parts or aftermarket parts.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, definitely after market. Like I said, it's.

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Speaker 1: Okay from Amazon, from a parts house. Where'd you get them?

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Speaker 6: Amazon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Amazon?

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Speaker 1: So you know we're taking and and we're sure of

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Speaker 1: the look up of the application that they're correct for

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Speaker 1: the vehicle.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, that that's good. They you know, I do

440
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 6: the self click test. I can with my scan toal

441
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 6: I can activate the soellnoid so I can hear it

442
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 6: clicking right. But I'm just wondering if it's maybe the

443
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 6: pressure switched themselves with that.

444
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: You know, Dan, it's hard from my seat here, you've

445
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: changed so much, you've changed so much with you know,

446
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: everything's unknown here. I've got I've got, you know, lack

447
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: of better way to put it, Chinese parts from Amazon

448
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: that are an unknown source of quality, and we've changed

449
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: it sounds like you've changed the three up top and

450
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: the two in the front. You know, you know, were

451
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: they installed properly, were they right to begin with, or

452
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: they're in the right place, because if memory serves me correct,

453
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: there are differences between them. You know, I think you think,

454
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: I think you've got to retrace your steps the best

455
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: way you can, and you might have to bite the

456
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: bullet and go to Honda and replace the parts that

457
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: you might have dropped and put real Honda parts on

458
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: and start there, or take another shot at something from

459
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: a better quality from a parts house, just to just

460
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Speaker 1: to try that. What I would what I would specifically

461
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: do is I would get a wiring diagram and look

462
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: at wire color and if they said red wire goes

463
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: to solenoid A and blue wire goes to solnoid B

464
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: and so on, that you've got solnoid A with the

465
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: red wire and solenoid B with the blue wire, and

466
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, line things up that way and at least

467
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: that'll give you a fighting chance, you know, not not

468
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: the poop, not the poop poo this. But it's just

469
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where we're coming from here, because you know,

470
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: we got a mess. Yeah you kind of yeah, you're

471
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: you're you kind of made a mess out of this. Yeah,

472
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: so now you know, well, right, you know, now I

473
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: can and I don't know if you I don't know

474
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: if you heard it. I don't know if you've got

475
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: a right solnod in the right hole, and if you

476
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: heard it with a poor quality part or incorrectly installed part,

477
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: or I'm not sure what you did here. Bottom line,

478
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: it worked better than this before you replace the parts right.

479
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, Yes, it so.

480
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not gonna look, I'm not going to beat

481
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: you up. I applaud your effort, all right. You know what,

482
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: we all started out as young mechanics. We all made

483
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: our fair share of mistakes, including yours. Truly, you lick

484
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: your wounds. You'll learn from the mistake. You try and

485
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: back up and get to a good spot and then

486
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: go forward. And if not, then there's other cars to

487
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: work on.

488
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I tell you what you know. Kind of

489
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 6: like you began your show about the cars and repair ability,

490
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 6: I'm at the stage in life where I've had some

491
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 6: nice cars, but now it's just kind of like my

492
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 6: side project to find, you know, maybe find a car

493
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 6: for like around one thousand dollars and just tinker with

494
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 6: it what I can do to it. Sure, Yeah, that's

495
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 6: basically where I'm at. I've got I've got six cars,

496
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 6: and one of them is good, one of them is nice.

497
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 6: That's nice. That's my wife's car. But the rest of mine,

498
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just tinkering along and maybe.

499
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Speaker 1: You should buy a process. Maybe you should buy all

500
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: six the same and then you got parts you can

501
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: swap from one another, might make it easier.

502
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 6: I thought that, what you know, I'm keep in my

503
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 6: eye for that too.

504
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: Dan, I gotta go, brother, all right, good luck to

505
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: if you get it, If you get it solved, give

506
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: us a call, let us know how you make out.

507
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: All right, You're very welcome. Bye bye. Yeah, it's tough spot.

508
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: Where do you go? You know, that's why it's so important.

509
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: You know.

510
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: One of the things I encourage you to do, all

511
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: of you. If you're going, if you're gonna work on

512
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: your own stuff, you know, source of parts.

513
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 6: Right.

514
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: We talked about it this hour with the gentleman with

515
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: the fram filter. And I've always said to you know,

516
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: it's it's quality of parts, and know what you're buying

517
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: and where you're getting it from. Remember this, and I

518
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: use it all the time. You've got a digital recorder

519
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: in your pocket all the time. It's called a cell phone.

520
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: Take a picture of whatever you're taking apart, take a picture,

521
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: store it. It goes up to the cloud. It goes

522
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: up to your Google Accounty, your right phone account, or wherever

523
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: it's going. And then, gee, where did that red wire go?

524
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: How did this look? It's always there. I took apart

525
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: the blend door. I'm sorry, the recirculator door motor actuator

526
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: on my seventy two money Carlo a month and a

527
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: half ago, because well, I had to paint it, and

528
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: I had to restore it. The car. I'm not restoring.

529
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: I had to take it apart, paint it, restore it,

530
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: played it, et cetera. I just put it together the

531
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: other day. Gee, did this lever go this way or

532
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: that way? I took out my cell phone. Oh, okay,

533
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: there it is, boom put it together. It took me

534
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: three minutes. Use your phone, all right. It's it's a

535
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: great device to record memories and history and also take

536
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: pictures of car parts. Where they went, and what color

537
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: wire went where? And what did it look like when

538
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: you first took it apart? Something to remember A five five,

539
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'll be back

540
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away, I'll know you got there.

541
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Ron Nano, the car Doctor. Let's get over

542
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: to Terry and Tennessee ninety nine Subaru Legacy Terry, Welcome

543
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help?

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00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 3: Yes, Hi, yes, sir, I can't. I can't hear you

545
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: very good? Well, yeah, how's that? I had trouble with

546
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: a mass airflow sensor, okay, and I took it to

547
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: a good foreign car shop here and he sounds a problem.

548
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: Tell me what was wrong? And it turned out I

549
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: put in it one of these about every year, a

550
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 3: mass airfo censor. And then later on I got caught

551
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: in northern Missouri and he said, well, I can't get

552
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 3: you after market parts. You're gonna have to pay the

553
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: money for a new part from the factory Texas. I

554
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: think he said, okay, and that worked a lot better.

555
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: The greatest thaying ever happened to me.

556
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, what's your question to make why?

557
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: Well, my question is be careful. It's not a question

558
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: be careful of after market parts.

559
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's a That's why. If you notice anytime

560
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: I talk about aftermarket parts versus OE stuff, I'm selective.

561
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: I'm also selective of where I send you. You know,

562
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: I want you to go someplace. You know, you walk

563
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: into a good part supply house, they'll tell you what

564
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: works and what doesn't work. That is, if they're being honest.

565
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: And one of the fortunes I've had in my career,

566
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: in my life, both radio and mechanical, is I always

567
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: seem to find the right guys. You know, they'll tell

568
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: you what works and what doesn't. You know, we see

569
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: it a lot. It's it's bad enough and hard enough

570
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: to try and fix cars. It's worse when you have

571
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: to diagnose against the bad part that the aftermarkets applied,

572
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 1: and you know, you've got to prove that part that

573
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: you sold is good or bad, and it doesn't solve

574
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: the customer's problem, and then you got to go back

575
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: and rediagnose the whole problem all over again. It hurts

576
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: the customer, it hurts your image, it hurts your business,

577
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: it hurts the bottom line. It's it's terrible. But now

578
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: I want to go back and comment about one thing,

579
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, repetitive mass airflow sensor replacement. When I hear that,

580
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I always think about environment, Terry.

581
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I think about environment where the vehicle stored. I think

582
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: about spiders, spider webs, goofy things, critters and cars. But

583
00:28:53,680 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: I also you know, mass airflow sensor life contamination and

584
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: longevity is also affected by a predicated by quality of

585
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: air filter. Got to have a good air filter and

586
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: it's got to fit correctly.

587
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: Now, yes, I asked a gentleman, Yeah, blow it out

588
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: and check it over again.

589
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, you know, never blow out. My opinion, my experience,

590
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: we never blow out an air filter. I will bang

591
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: it out gently in the side of the of the

592
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: trash can. But if we run air across an air filter.

593
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: In theory, when I took when we were having a

594
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: mass airflow class, and I've been to a few in

595
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: my career, i haven't been to one in a while,

596
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: but the conversation always came down to the air coming

597
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: into a mass airflow sensor has to be clean and

598
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: smooth and direct, and a poor quality air filter or

599
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: an upset air filter, I remember the term. An upset

600
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: air filter would would funnel the air in an awkward

601
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: position and direction. It would create turbulence, and that can

602
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: skew me airflow sensor readings, and that can create problems

603
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: unto itself. One quick tip if you ever get your

604
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: hands on a scan tool, for anybody out there that

605
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: has their hands on a scan tool, take a look

606
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: at your mass airflow sensor reading. Look at it at

607
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: idle if that subrew, your subrew should have a two

608
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: point five liter engine at idle. Yeah, right at idle,

609
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: you will see somewhere between two and three grams of

610
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: airflow across that sensor at idle, and every car will

611
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: be able to show you that reading under OBD two.

612
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: You don't even have to go into your make model software,

613
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: so you know if you see if you see two

614
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: point four, two point five, hey, it's right on the money.

615
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: If you see it under under you know under two oh,

616
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: if you see one point eight, that sensors under reporting

617
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: and could be a slightly uh could it will be

618
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 1: slightly altering fuel trim. So the general rule of thumb is,

619
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, within within five percent of the leader displacement

620
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: of the engine. So a five point oh, you'll see

621
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: five plus or minus five to eight percent of two

622
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: point five you'll see two point five grams at idle.

623
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't work going up. Going up, you have to

624
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: do either a volumetric efficiency or a calculated load test

625
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: to see if the engine is breathing properly. But I'm

626
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: with your brother, nothing like good quality parts wherever you're

627
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: getting them, just to be sure it helps.

628
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: Keep the I should tell the gentleman here. I like

629
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: the guy that runs this foreign car shop. I should

630
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: tell him I had trouble. He's after market cart.

631
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: You should hey, listen, you should now in all, in

632
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: all fairness to him, he doesn't know until somebody gets

633
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: back to him and says, hey, we got a problem,

634
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: and then it's up to him to do something about it.

635
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: You know. Like Papa said to Mama one day when

636
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: I was sent at the kitchen table when I was

637
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: a wee little bit of a kid, he said, I'm

638
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: going back to take care of take care of the

639
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: carpeting I laid five years ago, because it's not right.

640
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: And you only get one chance to annoy a customer

641
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: and make them an old customer. And I was eleven

642
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: at the time. Do the math. That was a while ago.

643
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, Terry. You'd be well and look

644
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: in your endeavors. I'm running any in the car, doctor.

645
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, welcome back.

646
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: Albert Einstein always talked about research, and he always talked

647
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: about how you have to research and research and research

648
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: some more. And there was a line in there that

649
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: he used something to the extent of You know, research

650
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: is important in any diagnosis because you're trying to solve problems.

651
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: And as he always said, if you think you've got problems,

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Speaker 1: my problems in mathematics are much greater. Was it was

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00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: a quote something to that effect, And I've never forgotten

654
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: that because I always remember that when I'm in a dogfight,

655
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: because yeah, I get in dogfights with cars. It happens.

656
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't walk up to a car, touch it magically, poof,

657
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: the problem goes away. There's there's usually a layered consequence

658
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: or issue. I think the number is the seventy five

659
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: percent tile. I think seventy five percent cent of the

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00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: cars out there today are solved with, hey, you know

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00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: the check engine light came on. It says it's it's

662
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: this circuit. It's a code, it's a sensor, it's a component.

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00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: Easy repair. The remaining twenty five percent, about fifteen to

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Speaker 1: twenty percent of those cars, they take some head scratching.

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00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: That's when you bring out the lab scope. That's when

666
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: you bring out the big guns. That's when it's a

667
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: repetitive and a layered issue. And the last five percent,

668
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: those are the ones that never get fixed. It might

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Speaker 1: be the customer doesn't want to spend the money. It

670
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: might be impractical, it might be impossible. Maybe parts aren't available.

671
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: Maybe there's just so much rust and corrosion to take

672
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: a component of part that you can't justify where you're

673
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: going or how you're going to get there. I've got

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00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: a twenty sixteen suburban in the shop right now, and

675
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: i'm solving a P zero fifty D two hundred thousand

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00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: mile truck. You might have heard me talk about this previously,

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00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: and it's got a cold start misfire, number seven cylinder,

678
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: likely a bad injector. GM's got some problems with injectors.

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00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: If you've got you know, a five to three this

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00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: vintage the last seven or eight years, nine years, they've

681
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: up the mileage. There's a couple of bulletins out there

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00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: extended warranted ten years, one hundred and fifty thousand miles.

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00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know that. I've never seen this vehicle.

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00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: I've got to go through the steps, so I'm looking

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00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: at it. It's got a hard missfire on seven cold

686
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: I pull the plug. It's the original plug for the car,

687
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: all right. And the reason I know that is because

688
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: the other plugs are Dentsos. That one's still in ac

689
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: Delco all right, so I have to put plugs in it,

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00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: make sure they're all the same as it was. The

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00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: dnsos were different than the Delko. The length the electrode

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00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: went into the combustion chamber was. It was different.

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00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 5: It was wrong.

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00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: I still don't think that DNSO plug was right for

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00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: the vehicle, and I found multiple little problems along the way.

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00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: Everything I do makes it better. Nothing has fixed it yet.

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00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: But that's diagnosis, step by step. But I'm recording my

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00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: steps as I go, and that's what I want you

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00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: to do as you go to till next week. I'm

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00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: running Indie in the car doctor, reminding you good mechanics

701
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Speaker 1: aren't expensive.

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Speaker 5: Isceless.

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Speaker 1: See ya

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Speaker 4: Sh