1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Live from the Bloomberg Interactive Berger Studios is Bloomberg Daybreak 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: for Wednesday, February one. Coming up today, the Fed prepares 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: to deliver its first policy decision of the year. Stock 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Start February coming off the best month since October, snapshare 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: slide as the company forecasts its first ever quarterly revenue decline. 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: And President Biden and how Speaker McCarthy need to discuss 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: the dead limit. Vice President Harris will attend today's funeral 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: to Tyree Nichols plus and battled Congressman Santos recuses himself 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: from two House committees. Michael Barr more Ahead, I'm John 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Stash Aaron sports Lebron James and the Lakers beat the 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Knicks in overtime. Two NFL teams named new coaches. That's 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: all's trendy Ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak on Bloomberg eleven three 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: on New York, Bloomberg Washington, d C, Bloomberg one oh 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine sixties and Francisco Sirius Exam 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: one nine team and around the world. Old on Bloomberg 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Radio dot Com and via the Bloomberg Business App. Good Morning, 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Hagar. And I'm Cameron Moscow. Here are the 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: stories we're following today. We begin with today's highly anticipated 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: decision from the Federal Reserve. A twenty five point basis 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: rate hike is expected, but what will the messaging sound 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: like from Fed chair J Powell. We get a preview 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg Economics correspondent Michael McKee. Investors generally think the 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: Central Bank will raise rates a quarter percentage point now 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: and again in March, but then stop. By November. Futures 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: markets say they'll be cutting rates. That's not a good 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: look for Powell and company, who worry inflation isn't beaten 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: yet and with China reopening could flare again. So expect 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: the Fed statement and Powell in his news conference to 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: recognize the outlook has improved, but pushed back on any 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: thought that means a change in policy yet. Michael McKee 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Mike, thanks and joined us for 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: live coverage of that FED decision starting at one thirty 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: p m. Eastern with a special edition of Bloomberg Surveillance. 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Well ahead of that decision, Nathan, as we said, stock 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: futures are lower, and that's after a month that saw 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: the s and P five huttered game six percent. Katerina Semonetti, 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Senior vice president and Morgan Stanley Private Wealth, says the 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: ft is not the most important thing for the markets 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: right now. We think that there is a lot more 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: volatility ahead and in our view, the story for twenty 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: three is not the story of the fat or instlation. 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: This is the story about the earning Since specifically earnings revision, 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: Katerina Semonetti had Morgan's Stanley Wealth used last month stock 44 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: rally as premature optimism. Well, earnings are disappointing. This morning, 45 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Karen Snapp has forecast its first ever quarterly revenue decline, 46 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: and we get the story from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. The 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: company sites a florry of changes to snapchats advertising products 48 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: that may be disruptive to the social media apps business. 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: Snap is making changes focus on its direct response business, 50 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: adds the prompt users to take an immediate action like 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: buying a product or signing up for an email list. Snap, 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: along with competitors like metal platforms, Facebook and alphabets, Google, 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: are also still grappling with a change to iPhone privacy 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: policies from Apple that made it more difficult to personalize 55 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: and track the success of ads on their apps in 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak, All right, Charlie, thank you. 57 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Snap shares down more than fourteen percent in early trading, 58 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: and there's some other stocks in the move this morning, 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: including Advanced micro Devices up more than three percent. The 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: chipmaker gave it better than feared sales forecast for the 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: first quarter, and shares of electronic arts down more than 62 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: ten percent. The video GameMaker gave a disappointing outlook thanks 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: to a six week delay releasing a highly anticipated Star 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Wars game, and the earnings continue to roll in today, Karen. 65 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: With more than two dozen companies in the sporting meta 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: platforms headlines today's list, we get a preview from Bloomberg's 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Tom Busby. Well. The big focus for investors today not 68 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: so much plans for and costs related to its ambitious 69 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: metaverse initiative, but on advertising revenue on Facebook and Instagram. 70 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Analysts predict a sales decline of six percent that would 71 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: be the third decrease in as many quarters, for earnings 72 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: per share of two dollars twenty six cents revenues of 73 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: thirty one point six five billion dollars. Tom Busby, Bloomberg Daybreak, 74 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: All right, Tom, thanks So the phone out continues from 75 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: last month's malfunction at the New York Stock Exchange. Investors 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: are trying to recoup their losses, but it might not 77 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: be easy. Let's get the details Live with the Bloomberg 78 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Steve Rappaport, Steve, good morning, Good morning, Karen and Nathan. 79 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: Losses from that Wall Street snap who could amount to 80 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. With thousands of claims piling up, the 81 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Stock Exchange sets aside half a mill each month to 82 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: cover unexpected disruptions. People familiar with the matters say the 83 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: claims will likely exceed that amount under NYSC rules. Yesterday 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: was the deadline to evaluate the claims and decide how 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: much to pay. The Exchange blames human error for the 86 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: malfunction that canceled thousands of train transactions, affecting hundreds of securities. 87 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Live in New York. I'm Steve, rep Report, Bloomberg day Break, 88 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. Step in India today, the sell off in 89 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: a Donnie stock continues as a Donnie Enterprises plunges by 90 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: thirty percent. All ten of the stocks tied to billionaire 91 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: Gatama Donnie are slumping today. The sell off has now 92 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: reached more than eighty billion dollars across the group's equities. 93 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: That's after short seller Hindenburg issue to report accusing a 94 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Donny of inflating revenue. We'll back here in the US 95 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Nathan Politics f in focus. President Biden and House Speaker 96 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy are set to meet at the White House 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: to discuss raising the dead limit. We get a preview 98 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: from Amy Morris and our Bloomberg newsroom in Washington. A 99 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: White House memos as the President will pose two questions 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: to McCarthy, including quote will the Speaker commit to the 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Bedrock principle that the United States will never default on 102 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: its financial obligations. The President will also ask when will 103 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: House Republicans release their budget with details on what budget 104 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: cuts the GOP wants in exchange for raising the dead ceiling. 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: McCarthy dismissed the memo as political games. President Biden has 106 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: repeatedly said he would not negotiate over raising the death limit. 107 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: In Washington, I'm Amy Morris, Bloomberg Daybreak. Thank you, Amy. 108 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: Let's turn to the presidential race now and more signs 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: of a slow start for Donald Trump. The latest filing 110 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: show the former president has raised less than ten million 111 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: dollars since he announced his third presidential run in November. 112 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: Well at the same time, Nathan, the Republican presidential field 113 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 1: is about to get bigger. A source towns Bloomberg News 114 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: that former South Carolina Governor Nikki Hayley plans to announce 115 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: she's running for president two weeks from today. Hayley served 116 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: as former President Trump's ambassador to the United Nations. Straight Ahead, 117 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: your latest local headlines, plus a check of sports, and 118 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: this is Bloomberg. It is twenty six degrees in Central Park. 119 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 1: These early morning flurries will give away to sunshine today 120 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: and hid the upper thirties. We get down to the 121 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: upper twenties tonight under a partley cloudy sky. Time not 122 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: to take a look at some of the other stories 123 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: making news in New York and around the world with 124 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Michael Barr, Good Money, Michael, Good Morning. Nathan. Vice 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: President Harris plans to speak at Tyree Nichols funeral today 126 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: in Memphis. Nichols died three days after he was beaten 127 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: by police. Also attending today's funeral will be Reverend Al Sharpton. 128 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: People from around the world watch the video tape of 129 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: a man on all unprovote being beat to death by 130 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: offices of the law. Reverend Sharpton, along with Nichols family, 131 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: say the nation needs to make sure laws are changed 132 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: to prevent this from happening again. The House is set 133 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: to vote as early as today on the resolution to 134 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: remove Democrat Ilhan Omar from the Foreign Affairs Committee. Speaker 135 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy has persuaded at least two Republican holdouts to 136 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: support the move. The Rules Panel advanced to the House 137 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: floor resolution saying that the accusations that Omar, who is Muslim, 138 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: had used anti Semitic tropes in past comments, for which 139 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: she has since uponlogized. Embattled New York Congressman George Santos 140 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: said that he will temporarily step away from his House 141 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: committee assignments. The Long Island Republican says that he is 142 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: facing investigations over his personal and campaign finances, as well 143 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: as calls for his resignation. Speaking to reporters, Santos said 144 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: he will be cleared. I have nothing at hide. Santos 145 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: was assigned to the Committee on Small Business and the 146 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Committee on Science space and technology. Travel conditions remain a 147 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: mess today because of a monster storm stretching from Texas 148 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: to West Virginia. It is expected to dump more snow, ice, 149 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: and rain. Texas Governor Greg Abbott defending the state's grid, 150 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: local outages are not a reason to say that there 151 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: is a problem with a power grid. The power grid 152 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: is functioning just fine as we speak. Air travel also 153 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: has impacted, with hundreds of flights nationwide canceled today. Yesterday 154 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: more than nine hundred were canceled. The Administration will supply 155 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Ukraine with longer range artillery and ammunition as part of 156 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: a new two billion dollar package of military assistance. That's 157 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: according to a person familiar with the matter. Ukraine's biggest 158 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: allies have so far said though they won't send Finder 159 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: jets to Kiev. Global News powered by more than hundred 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: journalists and analysts and over one twenty countries. Michael bar 161 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. Nathan Michael, thank you time now for 162 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Sports update, brought to you by Tri stayed Out. 163 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: Good morning, John stash Our, Good morning, Nathan Lebron. James 164 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: says he loves playing at the garden. Hadn't done it 165 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: in three years, injured two years ago when the Lakers 166 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: came to town. Suspended last year. Also didn't play Monday 167 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: night in Brooklyn due to a sore foot, but he 168 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: played last night. He played forty three minutes, scored twenty 169 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: eight points with eleven rebounds, and tennisis led the Lakers 170 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: to a one overtime win over the Knicks. Much has 171 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: been made of Lebron about to break Kareem Abdul Jabbar's 172 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: career scoring record. It's gonna happen soon. He only needs 173 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: eighty nine more points. But last night, James moved past 174 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Mark Jackson and Steve Nash and into fourth all time 175 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: in assists. It's amazing because, um, that's just you know, 176 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: what I love to do and getting my guys involved, 177 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: and you know, um, I'm trying to put the ball 178 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: on time and on target with my guys, um out 179 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: the course of my career. And you know, I I would 180 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: have been another grade group that allows me to um, 181 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: um see the space, I see the floor, and I'm 182 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: able to get it to him and try to get 183 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: it to him. Um. You know, with the right type 184 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: of past nets plates to night in Boston College. It 185 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: was big win for much improved Fordham Rams now eighteen 186 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: and four at rose Hill and opted off St. Louis, 187 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: who came in the top the Atlantic ten. Two NFL 188 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: teams have new coaches. Sean Payton spoke with several teams. 189 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: He's going to Denver. Peyton was still under contract with 190 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: the Scene, so the Broncos had to ship three draft 191 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: picks to New Orleans as compensation. First round pick this year, 192 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: second and third rounders next year. Also, Houston, in a 193 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: move that was expected, named Damiko Ryan's he was stand 194 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: out linebacker for the Texans. He had been coaching the 195 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: forty Niners defense. Texans have had now four coaches in 196 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: the last four years. John Stashward Bloomberg Sports Live from 197 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, Boston 198 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: to Washington, d C. Nationwide on Sirius XAMP, the Bloomberg 199 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 200 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hagar at the start of what 201 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: is likely to be a pivotal day in the nation's capital, 202 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: not just because of the private policy decision coming up 203 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: this afternoon from the Federal Reserve, but we're also waiting 204 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: for the kickoff of debt talks between President Biden and 205 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: how Speaker Kevin McCarthy, all aimed at trying to head 206 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: off a market crippling default that could come as soon 207 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: as this summer if something isn't done about the debt ceiling. 208 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: For more on this, we're pleased to be joined by 209 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: John Raines, director of Market Intelligence at SMP Global. John, 210 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: it's great to speak with you this morning ahead of 211 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: this meeting this afternoon between these two leaders who really 212 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: haven't had a whole lot of interaction up to this point. 213 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: How much should we expect to come out of this meeting? 214 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: Quick answer? Not much, not much. I think that they're 215 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: coming out of from two different mantage points, and I 216 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: think both sides understand the contours of this debate. This 217 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: is really more atmospherics, a good time from the go 218 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: ahead and have a discussion to actually meet. As she said, 219 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: they haven't met in this position with McCarthy speaker before, 220 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: so this is a good opportunity for that. But aside 221 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: from that, I don't expect much out of this meeting. 222 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: A whole lot of the barbs have been traded ahead 223 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: of it. We heard President Biden yesterday, uh, sort of 224 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: challenging Speaker McCarthy, show me your budget and I'll show 225 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: you mine. I mean, how does that sort of set 226 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: the tone for what's going to be coming this afternoon. 227 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're gonna see quite a bit 228 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: of this, not only in today's meeting, but I think 229 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna be seeing this over the next few months. 230 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: I mean, in Democrats are in a strong position here 231 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: that they know that the Republicans have to coalesce around 232 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: a budget and that's gonna be very difficult for them, 233 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: considering the cuts that will have to be made to 234 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: balance the budget within ten years, which is what a 235 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: lot of their caucus wants. How do you do that 236 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: in discretionary spending alone. It's not gonna be easy to do. 237 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: And that's the reason why the Democrats are doing this, 238 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: and they're putting these Republicans in these positions because they 239 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: realize every single program that they cut that's gonna cost 240 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: him a political price. Do you expect that it's going 241 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: to be a non discretionary spending alone. I mean, we've 242 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: heard Speaker McCarthy of course, say that he thinks that 243 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: social Security and medicare should be off the table. Well, 244 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: we've heard from a number of Republicans who are saying 245 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: that things like defense should be on the table. Is 246 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: that something that could really happen cuts to defense? I 247 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: think I think there's there's a decent chance. I mean, obviously, 248 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: if you're gonna wake substantial cuts to the budget, I 249 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: think defense probably has to get on the table, just 250 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: like you saw in two thousand and eleven. I just 251 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: don't see how you can get there through social spending alone. 252 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's that one has to been out there 253 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: to say to make these type of cuts to balance 254 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: the budget, you'd have to cut eighty five cent of 255 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: social spending. That's just not gonna happen. There's just not 256 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: that much waste in the government. So if that's not 257 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: a viable option, that I think defense comes into question. 258 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: And potentially I don't think that you're going to see 259 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: made it to respending on Medicare social Security come into 260 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: the freight here. But in the future, of course, both 261 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: of those programs are gonna have to be on the 262 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: table as well. Of Course, a President Biden, you would imagine, 263 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: would be looking for a tax increases as part of 264 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: any effort to sort of bring spending into balance. I mean, 265 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: given how divided Congress is and all of Washington is, really, 266 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the likelihood that we could see something 267 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: like that. I think it's pretty unlikely. It's very difficult 268 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: for me to envision a scenario where the Republicans can 269 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: sign up for tax increases. It's just it's very difficult. 270 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: They talked a little bit about in a sales tax 271 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: that's gone nowhere. I mean, of course, Biden in the 272 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: past I've talked about raising corporate taxes. Again, it's just 273 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: hard for me to see the Republicans signing up to that. Obviously, 274 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: especially with the new majority that they just achieved in 275 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: the House. Just a difficult pill for them to swallow. Well, 276 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: what about the difficulty that Speaker McCarthy could face of 277 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: bringing his Republican coalition together on anything related to getting 278 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: spending under control. I mean, he's kind of really fractious 279 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: cat because he's got to bring together and not much 280 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: of a majority to to get anything done. Really, yeah, 281 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the problem here, is that he really 282 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: only has four votes to play with, doesn't he. So 283 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: even in the advent that he goes and says Listen, 284 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: we weren't able to get this accomplished. We definitely need 285 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: to raise the death ceiling. Of course, there's a lot 286 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: of conservative Republicans out there that are going to challenge 287 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: his leadership, and so therefore does he risk his job 288 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: in order to stay to principle? And that's gonna be 289 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: an important question that the Republicans are going to have 290 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: going forward. I do think there is there are ways 291 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: for them to kind of manage this, maybe with some 292 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: type of cap on spending, maybe some slight percentage decrease 293 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: in some social spending as well, but to really get 294 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: to the area that they want to get to, and 295 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: also be able to manage the difficulties politically, as you 296 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: mentioned with with mandatory spending, it's gonna be very difficult 297 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: to them to coalesce around a budget, and of course 298 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: that means it's going to be difficult as we get 299 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: to March and April and going forward for them to 300 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: actually enter in negotiations with the White House. So about 301 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: thirty seconds left here, John, is a cap on spending 302 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: enough for Republicans to agree to an increase to the 303 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: debt ceiling? You know? I think that's the sixty four 304 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: thousand all the question. I do think eventually it'll have 305 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: to come to something like that. I think there'll be 306 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: some modest decreases here and there, some caps here and there, 307 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: but ultimately, at the end of the day, we know 308 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: one thing. The American people don't like tax increases, and 309 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: they certainly don't like decreases of government's venue. 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