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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ. Bucky

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Speaker 1: back with you. Buck. How you doing, man, Man, I'm good, DJ.

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Speaker 1: It's been uh. I mean, the summer is coming to

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Speaker 1: had the uh, the baseball draft that the going a

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Speaker 1: as we're recording this of the MLB Draft. Twenty rounds.

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Speaker 1: I think, right, we go twenty rounds in baseball. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought they just keep picking until

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Speaker 1: an interesting conversation. So we're gonna have that UH in

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Speaker 1: So that'll be a fun conversation as well. But first

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Speaker 1: of all, Buck, i'd love to get your thoughts. Did

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Speaker 1: if those guys don't play up to the standard, multiple

429
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Speaker 1: guys that were opt outs that don't play up to

430
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: the standard, it will be another um reason for example,

431
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: why scouts and evaluators will say, hey, man, you need

432
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: to play. You need to keep playing, not only so

433
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: we can see you more often, so you can really

434
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: develop your game. Yeah, keep an eye on injuries too, right,

435
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen it a Major League Baseball went

436
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: from sixty games back to one sixty two. We've seen

437
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 1: a ton of injuries. That's a different type of a season.

438
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: So now you're gonna have in the NFL, You're gonna

439
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: have these guys a group of guys that didn't play

440
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: at all last year. Um, and and that includes some

441
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: of the other uh FCS kids that that didn't have

442
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: a season till the springs. They ended up getting picked

443
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: without a season, And you're gonna have guys like the

444
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: Pack twelve. I think Arizona State only played like four

445
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: games or something like that last year, So you're gonna

446
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,719
Speaker 1: jump from four games to seventeen games in the NFL.

447
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: Like that is a major, major difference, man, It is

448
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: a major difference in that, like I hear you, and

449
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm just thinking about the tremendous jump

450
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: that you have to make when you played a full

451
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: slate of college games, and how much faster the game

452
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: is in training camp and then in the first preseason game,

453
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: the first regular season game, the playoffs, in the Super Bowl,

454
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: how they speed in the intensity kicks up. I can't

455
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: even imagine going out there having been away from it. DJ.

456
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: It's almost like, I don't know when it was the

457
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: last time you shot hoops, but imagine it being a

458
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: year or two since you go out there and you

459
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: just jump out there and not only play pick up,

460
00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: but Lebron in the space gym two crew. It's like DJ,

461
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: come join us, and you're like, okay, yeah, let me

462
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: move around and kind of shake off and get that

463
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: first shot. Like that's what we're asking uh these guys

464
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: to do, is to not only jump in, but to

465
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: jump in at a higher level when you haven't been

466
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: in the game for a long time. I think it

467
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: would be a very I won't expect any of those

468
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: guys to hit the ground running, just because I think

469
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: it is such a huge adjustment to just getting used

470
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: to being able to be ready to play in the program. Yeah, well,

471
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: hopefully that it ends better for them than it did

472
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: for me, because I tore my achilles when I hadn't

473
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Speaker 1: played basketball, and while I went out there and played,

474
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: so that was the end of it, but I didn't.

475
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know. I don't know if you

476
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: made a comeback since that point. I didn't know if

477
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: that's something you didn't know. What's the old phrase, like

478
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame

479
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: on me. Like I tear one achilles, I'm not tearing two.

480
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: Like that's that's a lesson learned. I got a hoop

481
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: in the backyard. I get jumpers. That's it. That's no

482
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: pick up. It's it's so it's all relegated. But by

483
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: the way, is there anything Is there anything worse than

484
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: like the mid forties year old dude he gets out

485
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: there and it's like slapping the floor and like it's garden.

486
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: Is there anything worse than that? I mean no, But

487
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: that part used to be fun. I just I just

488
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: miss it because man, you play, Are you still playing?

489
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? No, you used to play like in a gym, man,

490
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: Like I told you. My claim to fame is having

491
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: to guard Stefan Marberry one time at a at a

492
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: gym out here in l A. And Marbury is coming

493
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: off and whenever he had double ankle surgery, right and

494
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: his first time back, and a guy on my team

495
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: gets Marbury riled up right talking to him or whatever.

496
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, now I gotta pay for the sins of

497
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: my father, like I gotta, I gotta pay for it,

498
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: and he is just I mean lighting it up. And

499
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 1: I just remember being at a point like, yeah, this

500
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: isn't a lot of fun. Just a lot of fun

501
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: like getting torched and pick up by an NBA player,

502
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: But it was great seeing But now did you I

503
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: haven't played ten fifteen years, like, and so then what

504
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: happens is you have your injuries, like after the layoff,

505
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: and you hear about guys going back and getting hurt.

506
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I guess I've I guess

507
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 1: I missed my statue with I can't. I can't go

508
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: back because I'm not gonna work myself back into shape

509
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: to play pickup like it's but the suck of it all?

510
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: Is it? Like you can play basketball for three hours, right,

511
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: I mean you've burned two thousand calories, and it's like

512
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: it was fun. Now we get up and run and

513
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: like I ran this morning, I got my four miles

514
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: in buck. It's not fun. There's nothing fun about it.

515
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: It's a check the box operation, that is it. So

516
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: it's funny you talk about running. Um. When I was

517
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville a couple of weeks, I hadn't run where

518
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: I had like a series of lord leg injuries and stuff.

519
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: I feel like the old man now, right, and so

520
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: I go, I run. I run in Jacksonville like four days,

521
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: I run on the beach. I'm doing all this stuff.

522
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: I feel great. DJ my nee is just now beginning

523
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: to feel okay after running like that, like my my

524
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: love knee was going so and I'm talking to about that.

525
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this it. I'm the guy that's never

526
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: resigned to being I'm the walker now, so now I

527
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: walk and I'm walking three and a half miles and

528
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: I'm doing that in in uh Santa Monica. There's a

529
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: great set of stairs, right, it's a hundred and eighty

530
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 1: steps to four street stairs. Everyone goes if you, if

531
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: you ever do it, like it's it's a great workout.

532
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: So that is that is my high I get my

533
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: high offer walking up the Santa Monica stairs, like, oh

534
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: I did it. I did it eleven times a day,

535
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: Like look at me, like I'm a walker guy, Like

536
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get those big old shoes like

537
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: rock ports and just walk around the neighborhood. Like that's

538
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: when I feel like I feel like I feel like

539
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: my athletic, my athlete has been officially swiped, like they've

540
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: taken it out my wallet hand that in guy like, well, well,

541
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what's worse though, walking or whether you're

542
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: running right And you feel like I've got a nice

543
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: stride going here and it looks pretty good. You know

544
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in the zone. And then all of

545
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, you see like the mom just go so

546
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: just right past you, and I'm like, Wow, she doesn't

547
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: even look like she's going that fast. So what do

548
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: I look like I'm doing here? That's discouraging? Discouraging to

549
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: say the least. Um, all right, the last topic here

550
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: before we bounce. Uh. I wanted to just just to

551
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: kind of get you excited, Buck, I'm trying to fire

552
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: you up for next year's draft. Classes. We don't you know,

553
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: I've been doing this first look series. I know you

554
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: you start to dig in a little bit on these

555
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: guys before the season starts. But this is the fun

556
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: thing about the NFL Draft is, at this point in

557
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: the process, before this college football season starts, there are

558
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: so many guys that we aren't necessarily paying attention to

559
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: that are going to end up being first round picks.

560
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: And I wanted to go through last year's draft and

561
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 1: just kind of give you the out of left field

562
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: first round picks. So we we knew, and especially from

563
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: doing your stuff with the opening and with Nike, like

564
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: you knew who some of these kids were coming up,

565
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, through through high school, and college. But we

566
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: weren't thinking of these players as first round players at

567
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: this point in time last year. So when you go

568
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: through it, how about Zack Wilson from b y U UM.

569
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: How about J. C. Horne from South Carolina was the

570
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: eighth pick? UM, let's go, Uh, you know Elijah very Tucker.

571
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: I did him the year before. I gave him a

572
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: second round grade the year before, So that's not a

573
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: huge surprise. Mac Jones going fifteen last year at this

574
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: time never would have saw it. Um. Zaven Collins wasn't

575
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: I personally wasn't familiar with him last year. The linebacker

576
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: from from Tulsa UM at this point in time last year,

577
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: didn't know much about it. Jalen Phillips we knew as

578
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: a big time recruit and the U C l A

579
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: ended up in Miami, but he played as well as

580
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: any pass rusher in college football last year. Ended up

581
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: being the eighteenth pick. Jam And Davis was a late

582
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: riser there at Kentucky. UM. Go through some of these

583
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: other names here. Uh, Greg Newsome at Northwestern was the pick.

584
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: Peyton Turner from Houston was a pick. Stokes from Georgia

585
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: was a twenty ninth pick. Um, the rest of those guys,

586
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: I feel like we you know, we knew to opt

587
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: out guys with Joe try On and Jason Oway, but

588
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: that's a good number of names of guys who weren't

589
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he might have known who they were a

590
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: little bit, but we weren't thinking of these guys first

591
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: round picks last year at this time. No, they weren't

592
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: household names. They weren't stars and DJ. I think it

593
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: continues to speak to what we talked about the pros

594
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: and cons of being an opt out. Football is a

595
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: developmental sport where you have to get reps to develop

596
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: and become a better player. The only way to acquire

597
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: skills is through repetition, and so some of these guys

598
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: who will be viewed as Johnny Comb lately, he's or

599
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: one year one where guys who really the light went

600
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: on after years of development on the practice field, they

601
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: finally clicked and they started performing at a high level

602
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: in games. You talked about all of Matt mac Jones

603
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: being a guy who look he was the backup quarterback

604
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: behind two guys that eventually went on to be the

605
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: top picks before he got his opportunity to be the

606
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: starting quarterback and when he got his opportunity, he took

607
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: advantage of it. Um. I think if we go all

608
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: the way back before the Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow was

609
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: another one that kind of came out of left field

610
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: to be the number one overall pick. It is really

611
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: important for us just because we don't know the names.

612
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: Early in the year, you begin to see these things

613
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: buzz up. I think I remember I came, we text

614
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. But one night Zach Wilson was on maybe

615
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: it was a Friday night or whatever, and I know

616
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter we talked about, like, hey man, you see

617
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: the Pyu kid, Like I don't know who he is,

618
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: but he's a pretty good player. And it's getting on

619
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: those things at quarterback. Like right now everyone's talking about

620
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: the usual suspect to Sam Howell Spencer ratherls Malik Willis name,

621
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: isn't that? But you know there's there's others that are

622
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: coming right There's there's someone that's off the radar or

623
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: maybe we haven't fully talked about that is going to

624
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: wasn't Matt Coral mackerel from Cool Miss who Southern Chale.

625
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: We know because remembert Beach Polly and those things. But

626
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: now he's beginning to bubble up at Old Miss he

627
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: has a big year, everyone will be like, oh my gosh,

628
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: we didn't know anything about him. And so there are

629
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: other guys that are out there like that. It's a

630
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: matter of in the first month of the season trying

631
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: to figure out a man. Who are these names that

632
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: we need to begin to monitor as they get going

633
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: down the stretch, because that's that's how goes. That's how

634
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: these guys kind of ride the magic carpet to be

635
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: in a number one pick out of nowhere, no doubt. Um,

636
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: that's what makes it fun. Um. But this has been

637
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: fun man. I know it's a little bit of a

638
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: shorter episode today, but hit some ground there on the

639
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: draft that parallels there between MLB, uh in the NFL

640
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: and and some good conversation there on opt outs as

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Speaker 1: well as these guys that are kind of coming out

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Speaker 1: of left field. Anything else you want to throw in here,

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Speaker 1: Buck before we bounce, No, no, no, Like we had

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Speaker 1: a conversation we're talking about MLB and I was telling you,

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Speaker 1: um Man, Khalil Watson, drafted by the Miami Marlins, played

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Speaker 1: for my dad's about that team. He was a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver who was really really talented, but he was committed

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Speaker 1: to go to NC State to play baseball. This guy

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Speaker 1: goes into I mean early in six super athlete or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, and this comes from watching a

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Speaker 1: lot of the College World Series, watching these teams that

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Speaker 1: were in it, Um, Mississippi State, Texas, Vanderbilt, some of

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Speaker 1: these other schools. The game is trending more athletic than

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Speaker 1: I ever can remember. My son is a spiring baseball player.

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Speaker 1: Like watching the game with him and just watching the

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Speaker 1: changing dynamics. I know we spent the first part of

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Speaker 1: it talking about it being a very skill sport, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like, particularly you've been a Padres fan, we're

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Speaker 1: just more of those guys kind of make the way

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Speaker 1: into the sport. And I absolutely love it because I

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Speaker 1: think it will change the way the game is played

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Speaker 1: at the upper levels. Yeah, it's some more. It's an

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Speaker 1: exciting brand of baseball to watch, Uh, no doubt. So

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Speaker 1: congratulations to your dad. So Dexter Lawrence first round picking football.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got a first round pick in baseball. What

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Speaker 1: else does he have left to accomplish her? Well, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He's talking about riding off into the sunset.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, Like I will say this DJ.

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Speaker 1: You know North counta a little bit. I'm from Raleigh.

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Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in way Forest. Way Forest is

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Speaker 1: like a few minutes out on the outskirts of town.

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Speaker 1: Wake Forest is t tiny for Wake Forest. All of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, have this fib because Bryce Bryce Love also

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Speaker 1: played like, I don't know what's in the water down there,

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Speaker 1: but I need to go and make sure I take

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Speaker 1: a couple of jugs and bring it back because it's

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Speaker 1: a ton of talent. Maybe maybe our kneeds will feel

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Speaker 1: better if we get some of that water. A little

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Speaker 1: water in Chick fil a little water at play for lunch.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, all right, that's been fun. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys hanging with us that. I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: have enjoyed it. We look forward to catching up with

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Speaker 1: you again here shortly. Another podcast coming this week where

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Speaker 1: we've got an outstanding guest. I'll just tease it. One

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Speaker 1: of the top college football coaches in the country is

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Speaker 1: going to join us on our next episode, so I'll

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Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that. We'll catch you next

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Speaker 1: time right here on Move the Sticks. Thanks for downloading

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