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Speaker 1: this ship drops home came would it could be hoping
Speaker 1: this with the super ship Boy and o R coming
Speaker 1: close that door, that right now we have technically one
Speaker 1: of the hottest rappers. That's not even technically technically it
Speaker 1: is the hottest rapper in the game. When you when
Speaker 1: you sware with the top dog and you come out
Speaker 1: on top and they're saying that they don't even want
Speaker 1: to come back, you're the top dog. That's why it's harder.
Speaker 1: Floyd made one of the fight anybody because for that night,
Speaker 1: that same people was on that same level. But let's
Speaker 1: let's get go over. This man has continuously stayed relevant
Speaker 1: in this game. He has. I was discovered by one
Speaker 1: of the the most phenomenal what I call it the
Speaker 1: best produce of our generation. Hit. Him and his brother
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal group. They did phenomenal things. They continue
Speaker 1: to do it. Then he had a whole another life
Speaker 1: where he goes to this these these these other people
Speaker 1: and then he makes he becomes greater. And if you
Speaker 1: don't know who are you're talking about right now, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talking about motherfucking push your teeth makes a look,
Speaker 1: so push your tea. I want to take it. First.
Speaker 1: Let me give you that bottle of dog Perry Yard.
Speaker 1: We got you know, listen, we gave nobody dog show.
Speaker 1: Take something when when you give you you trying you
Speaker 1: myself my money? Yeah money right now, yeah you can here,
Speaker 1: you can take what you was totally up to you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Cause you do have a
Speaker 1: bottle of your own rose too, because you deserve to
Speaker 1: have your own bottom rose. So I mean, before we
Speaker 1: jump into that, I want to pick up to somebody.
Speaker 1: I want to pick up to be Dot right from
Speaker 1: rat radar, because be out from rat Radar. He's sitting
Speaker 1: out a tweet the other day which was shocking to me,
Speaker 1: and he said, I wonder where to push your t
Speaker 1: interview was sound like about push your t's album, and
Speaker 1: that messed me up because I was like, damn, you know,
Speaker 1: I see all these mems you know, um, And I
Speaker 1: think that's what's being overshadow right now is the great
Speaker 1: body at the battle about the battle. So what I
Speaker 1: want to do is I want to break down the
Speaker 1: whole album as album we got got some number one
Speaker 1: one song number one. I got into my own ship
Speaker 1: right here. But if if it's if you know, you know,
Speaker 1: what were we doing? What that what's that playing right there?
Speaker 1: Who's bootlegging us already right here? But cool? So if
Speaker 1: you don't even know how did that come together? Um,
Speaker 1: if you know, you know that was that was one
Speaker 1: of the one of the first joints that that me
Speaker 1: and Kanye did. I feel like it was. It was
Speaker 1: probably that might have been found in utass somewhere. That's
Speaker 1: why yoming is that. No, Yeah, I got two different,
Speaker 1: two different, but didn't didn't he remix the whole album
Speaker 1: at some point? Yes, yes, So this is the first
Speaker 1: of the remix. Yeah, this is the first of like
Speaker 1: I'm about to I'm about to redo this, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, people don't know that. Like the process in
Speaker 1: which I work with him is basically, I go and
Speaker 1: get my beats from everywhere else, do it, boom, bring
Speaker 1: it to him. Listen, this is my album. What you think.
Speaker 1: We vie with it for like two three days, riding
Speaker 1: around to it. You know. Um, He's like, um, I
Speaker 1: think it's great. Like on the third day he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I think I can. I think I can produce this
Speaker 1: way better than myself. He's basically telling you we're scrapping
Speaker 1: this whole album. So I was like like you think.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, now, mind you just
Speaker 1: think about what he's at this time, because at this
Speaker 1: time he's like it's dramas, you know, what's the time frame?
Speaker 1: Just so we know more or less. Man, it's Trump.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no no, it's the it's
Speaker 1: the shows and the rants. And when he was doing
Speaker 1: coming off the stag. So when he was done with that,
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, you know, I think I could
Speaker 1: do it better myself. And I'm like all right, I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's over. So she was like, he was like, let's
Speaker 1: go to um, let's go to Utah. So we go
Speaker 1: to Utah or whatever alone there no, okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: but Kobe was over. Kobe cold may not like the
Speaker 1: end of way with there? Just did he just did
Speaker 1: you see how you just flow up? And I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you, I'm telling you what do you know what
Speaker 1: I always wondered. I always wondered if you're signed the
Speaker 1: good music and like doesn't like a style has come
Speaker 1: with you, like like bots out, mother, what's the guy
Speaker 1: Jeremy Scott? Just you know what I'm saying, Like, but ahead,
Speaker 1: it ain't you like you're not just signing you're the
Speaker 1: president of the label. But I was signed first. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm saying now at this point, this
Speaker 1: whole process the label as well, So yeah, Utah when
Speaker 1: you know, you know, yeah, Utah, and you know, we just, um,
Speaker 1: we're just cooking up, man, you're just cooking up. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he was finding, basically finding his sound. So
Speaker 1: it was always just about my album and at that
Speaker 1: time between Utah then Wyoming, but we found, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of my album, found some of Tianna's album.
Speaker 1: And then this is how all the seven all these
Speaker 1: seven track albums are forming. Because then he's like, well, damn,
Speaker 1: I gotta make me one and then poured something. We
Speaker 1: gotta sit there right now. I'm sorry to cut you.
Speaker 1: We gotta salute to you making that phenomenal body of
Speaker 1: work on standing there and fighting with a lion and
Speaker 1: in the jungle and damn it. What's so where were
Speaker 1: you when Big Meat from the tigers in man? You
Speaker 1: know that that's what he said on the door, and
Speaker 1: you know, um, I was busy getting stripes like a
Speaker 1: tighter skin. But it was like I was basically saying
Speaker 1: in that line, like big Meat was the motivation back then,
Speaker 1: for like if you was if you was outside like
Speaker 1: trying to get to it. You you're hearing about these
Speaker 1: uh amazing parties shout out Hannah Kane and uh it
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta at this time, you know, just about
Speaker 1: you know, the Elephants and the tigers and the line.
Speaker 1: I've never been in one of those parts. I heard
Speaker 1: about it where when this was going on, I was
Speaker 1: just saying, that was my inspiration. That was my motivation.
Speaker 1: I don't know what everybody else was motivated by, but
Speaker 1: that was that's what was moving me. Oh my god. Man,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna move on to the games we play.
Speaker 1: Speak about that, man, the games we play. Um, it
Speaker 1: was just speaking about the competitive nature of like hustlers,
Speaker 1: like just speaking about how the competitive energy like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and then putting it in the
Speaker 1: club atmosphere. You know. Um, sometimes like man, I've been
Speaker 1: in this for sixteen years for realise and you know
Speaker 1: some sometimes sometimes I gotta go seek out and find
Speaker 1: that energy, you know what I'm saying. Find that, Well,
Speaker 1: that's different. I didn't find Bale, but we can get in.
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you gotta go find that energy. Um.
Speaker 1: I've lived through different eras, you know, different eras, music
Speaker 1: has changed, so on and so forth. But regardless to
Speaker 1: what the street energy always to me is what runs it. Like,
Speaker 1: it's that street energy that really sets it off. That's
Speaker 1: where you can go in and and and and feel
Speaker 1: what's hot. You know what I'm saying. You got to
Speaker 1: watch Summer Jam um, or you didn't get it. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to see it all. I've seen pieces
Speaker 1: of it I see, I've seen people, I've seen the
Speaker 1: whole thing. And to allude to what you're just saying,
Speaker 1: when meat mil came there, I felt that because that's
Speaker 1: where I come from. Like at the end of the day, Um,
Speaker 1: you guys dropped three albums, and I tell people, Um,
Speaker 1: first off, what's what's the ship? Kids see goes? Sometimes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's almost deaf. That's gotta be most deaf man.
Speaker 1: You'll see y'all give this drain that's little. But anyway,
Speaker 1: that album, since that Ship came out, I listened to
Speaker 1: it every morning, right, So I said, these motherfucker's have
Speaker 1: made a morning, afternoon, and nighttime album. Like that's how
Speaker 1: I look at it. Like I listen to you in
Speaker 1: the afternoon and then you know, I gotta go to
Speaker 1: you at nighttime. You know what I'm saying. So okay,
Speaker 1: um now, so let me let me get back. Let's
Speaker 1: stay stick with the album because I don't want to
Speaker 1: cause I got so much shit so much so the
Speaker 1: games we play we covered that already. Now now this
Speaker 1: is this is this? This one was kind of um
Speaker 1: tricky for me because you kept that this is what
Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, the meek Mill thing, like like
Speaker 1: I identified with your album, Like I can sit there
Speaker 1: and visualize your album. Your album is a book slash
Speaker 1: a movie to me because I see every single thing
Speaker 1: that you're saying. Because I got identified, I can relate
Speaker 1: to with it in some way. It was another person
Speaker 1: who identified relate with is Rick Ross. You guys collaborated
Speaker 1: on it because this is this is a seven piece body.
Speaker 1: You have to be very selective or who and why
Speaker 1: are you're gonna pick the shore? So why was mc
Speaker 1: ross before we get into that particular Because Rick Ross
Speaker 1: is one of the only wrappers that I can give
Speaker 1: a beat too. I give him my beat and I
Speaker 1: give him my verse, and I can turn my back
Speaker 1: on that situation. And I know he's going to deliver
Speaker 1: period like he gonna say everything on topic on par
Speaker 1: he gonna you know, he listen, I have been saying,
Speaker 1: so I've been saying, um, um, your money's going every
Speaker 1: other month, like that's what he That was a bar
Speaker 1: in his in his verse with mine, and I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, man, that is the illest way to
Speaker 1: call somebody broke as a motherfucker. Your money's going every
Speaker 1: other month like and it's simple, concise, but it gets
Speaker 1: to the point and I'm like, man, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know sometimes sometimes like you know, I'm rapping and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a over wrap. But then you need that
Speaker 1: dichotomy for him to just nail ship like that, and
Speaker 1: he kills it. Let's make some noise for dichotomy. That
Speaker 1: was hard, you know what? That? Yeah? So all right too,
Speaker 1: So now you guys work on this record boom. How
Speaker 1: does this come about? Um No, Actually, he was in
Speaker 1: he was in Africa. Ross was in Africa, and I
Speaker 1: was um I had said everything I wanted to say
Speaker 1: on in that verse, and I was like, damn, it
Speaker 1: was feeling whacked to me. Writing another verse, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just run on rapping. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: let me reach out to the go to to Ross
Speaker 1: and he was actually in Africa and they were just like, Yo,
Speaker 1: send it over, we're gonna knock that shot out. And
Speaker 1: he's I swear to God, he's sending it back in
Speaker 1: two days in Africa. I believe he found a factory
Speaker 1: and he had yea drink chance alum nine. So let
Speaker 1: me let me just also say something that I appreciate
Speaker 1: as a as a as a Latin. You know, man
Speaker 1: like you has a lot of Latin. Then if we
Speaker 1: got to get to that, come on you run down,
Speaker 1: So come come back baby, right Okay, now let's get
Speaker 1: into that. Come back baby, um, come back baby. Like
Speaker 1: when you think about it, I hadn't put out an
Speaker 1: album in three years. I can't wait because we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that too, and and and me and Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: As far as that, yes, yes, yes, we've been waiting
Speaker 1: for this. You wanted a long time. Let me something
Speaker 1: before you're far to drake you was still one of
Speaker 1: the most requested guests from because I guess the people
Speaker 1: you know, they want that, they want these stories for
Speaker 1: these people that so so you know, we'll come back baby.
Speaker 1: It was like boom yeah, appointed me president of Good
Speaker 1: Music UM. At the same time, I was doing this
Speaker 1: prison reform uh with Hillary. Yeah, with Hillary by the
Speaker 1: way for helping let that trying to figure out out
Speaker 1: as well as UM. Obama was still in office, going
Speaker 1: to you know, the White House every so often. I
Speaker 1: wasn't doing music period UM good Music checks. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: lot of people can't say that you do music. And
Speaker 1: you know, it went from you know, I put out
Speaker 1: I put out an album executive produced by puff Um
Speaker 1: called Darctors Before Dawn, and people were like, yo, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you just hear you know, with social media,
Speaker 1: you get all the critiques. It's like, man, he's still
Speaker 1: talking about dope whatever. I was like, okay, cool. I
Speaker 1: didn't put out no music. I was doing these these
Speaker 1: other separate projects, and you know, as as time went on,
Speaker 1: it was like, damn, my damn, should could use some
Speaker 1: coke wrap right now? And you know, and this is
Speaker 1: what people are saying, and I'm like, damn, just look
Speaker 1: just last year y'all were saying, you know, it was
Speaker 1: too much of that whatever. Comeback, Maybe this to fix
Speaker 1: you need like that that that was the whole period. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and you feel like this is your Purple Take. Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like this is like for
Speaker 1: those that don't know the Purple take control a summer.
Speaker 1: For there's a lot of people that might not know
Speaker 1: the youngest thing. And I don't want to say control
Speaker 1: the summer of New York City because it controlled to something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like wou Tape was the first group that you knew
Speaker 1: where it was from, but they transisted, They transcended like
Speaker 1: you know where they was and that Cope tape. So
Speaker 1: when he said he said he said, I am your
Speaker 1: Ray and Ghosts, this is my Purple Tape, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: now is the holy Grail like of an album. To me,
Speaker 1: It's like, did you speak the rad a Ghosts that
Speaker 1: had that proud of you? Yeah? I think you know,
Speaker 1: I was trying, Yeah, and just to give some insight
Speaker 1: on the whole Purple Tape concept when we were um.
Speaker 1: By the time, you know, like I said, this ship
Speaker 1: was done between Utah Wyoman, more so Wyoming. By the
Speaker 1: time I got the Wyoman, it was like, YO, make
Speaker 1: a list of like twenty five records that you just love,
Speaker 1: and man, I'm like Glaciers of Ice ratings. It's just
Speaker 1: certain things, records that you love that like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: people like and so then we go through that list
Speaker 1: and we get elements from those records. We would just
Speaker 1: listen to that list and he'd be like, that's this
Speaker 1: feeling we need. We need that feeling right there, Like,
Speaker 1: if you don't hit like this, then they don't make it.
Speaker 1: So then we take some of them off and then
Speaker 1: you know, by the time we finished the list, let's
Speaker 1: probably out ten out of twenty five. Now I had
Speaker 1: my list of twenty five. He had his own list
Speaker 1: of five. Engineer might have had a list of what
Speaker 1: a couple of records, man, I mean I remember Devil's
Speaker 1: Pie D'Angelo. Yeah, it was it was it was inspiring stuff,
Speaker 1: miseducation stuff. Mine was really was heavy Rison, glaciers and
Speaker 1: conserrated gould faces. I mean, you know, and you know
Speaker 1: that's how we built the at least the feeling of
Speaker 1: the album. That's what we were trying to go. That's
Speaker 1: a dope that's a dope concept and way to put
Speaker 1: together in album. Now, that's ill. That's um. I remember
Speaker 1: for else he do something similar like that to me.
Speaker 1: He used to make me listen to records like I remember,
Speaker 1: um I said the story. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: ever said it on the podcast, but remember Fabuleus is
Speaker 1: hollyback Younger was actually my record and it was infinitely
Speaker 1: was it was it was, but it was Ice Ice Baby,
Speaker 1: that was Vanilla's ice. So he told me, you gotta
Speaker 1: listen to the Ice Ice Baby. It was just like
Speaker 1: your version of it. Yeah, but listen, now, listen to it.
Speaker 1: How about absolutely listen to Ice like Ice Ice Baby,
Speaker 1: the same thing. But I was like he was a
Speaker 1: genius because I was like, but I just hated Ice
Speaker 1: Ice Baby at that time so much. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this was like when he was becoming cool again. But
Speaker 1: I don't think again. I think no, Ice Ice Baby,
Speaker 1: it's cool. Man. Come on, there's someone in here who
Speaker 1: jumps in the five point off. That's cool record and
Speaker 1: records right now we're looking at us like, damn this
Speaker 1: bad record. That's real. That's man, all right, So boom,
Speaker 1: never trust a bit who finds and not camera. We
Speaker 1: need to understand he will fuck you then turn it around.
Speaker 1: And but what are we what are we saying? Because
Speaker 1: the new generation you gotta explain to them. Bush, you
Speaker 1: gotta explain to the understanding, Like you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like the club like that they gotta lot. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that if the attention, if the attention is uh,
Speaker 1: that that attention hungry, you can find love in that.
Speaker 1: You know, as soon as you if they can get
Speaker 1: that attention from anywhere, they'll they'll they'll they'll take it
Speaker 1: from anywhere. They'll take it from anywhere. And and you
Speaker 1: know it's not it's no uh, it's no, it's no
Speaker 1: ranking level. Just wherever they get the attention from, that's
Speaker 1: where they're gonna take it. So it can be you know,
Speaker 1: you know you think that you you know, young millionaire
Speaker 1: out here doing your thing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or you know, streets, you know, whatever it is, balling, whatever,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Because the other day I went to
Speaker 1: a restaurant and I see two guys and I see
Speaker 1: two girls. But the two girls the whole time, but
Speaker 1: like this they were they felt like it was like
Speaker 1: a reality show. So whoever wasn't there They were there
Speaker 1: as well on his date with them, and I looked
Speaker 1: and I was like, how fun could that be? Like
Speaker 1: you're sitting there. You just meet these chicks and they
Speaker 1: want to want to, like, you know, document everything that's
Speaker 1: actually going down. So that's what I figured that something
Speaker 1: like you ain't see. I'm not trying to plug this show,
Speaker 1: but parents Hilton got to show on Vice now where
Speaker 1: it's exposing like people trying to be popular through social media.
Speaker 1: His parents, his parents, Hilton doing it. Wow, I think
Speaker 1: it's Hollywood something, but it's it's kind of ill and
Speaker 1: it caught my attention. That's okay. Now we went with
Speaker 1: all you drink it. We're still drinking. We're still drinking. Okay, man,
Speaker 1: goddamn Okay. Now, Now, as a Spanish person, I used
Speaker 1: to be scared even say that. Yeah, they're serious, like
Speaker 1: you gotta be like you gotta be like for real,
Speaker 1: like to even sit because they say that. Even when
Speaker 1: you say it, it invites the spirits. Na. Man, it's
Speaker 1: not that you did a record for me and you said,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew, but you said a
Speaker 1: lyric that was somes that here. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: trying to be hard. I told you, I told you
Speaker 1: I froze a motherfucker. I was trying to be hard,
Speaker 1: but I was always yea, So how how did you
Speaker 1: come with that? Because obviously you have Spanish friends, obviously
Speaker 1: you have Spanish influence around you, but so you had
Speaker 1: to know, like because that's like really really, that's really
Speaker 1: likes that's my that's my That's probably my favorite record
Speaker 1: on the album. And uh she signed the singers Saint
Speaker 1: signed to Good Music, right, Yes her name is Shake.
Speaker 1: Yeah she's all over. But but that record was made
Speaker 1: after the death of my role manager, my role manager
Speaker 1: that killed. So, um, just to give you the backstory
Speaker 1: of like just where my mind was at. So you know, basically,
Speaker 1: we want the road, it's time to make the album,
Speaker 1: so we get off the road and just show you
Speaker 1: the type of guy he is. So he's like my
Speaker 1: road manager to a manager. This is what he does.
Speaker 1: His name is Day Day. Yeah for sure. And he
Speaker 1: ended up going as a roadie for uh Nicki Minaj.
Speaker 1: So they're on the road, you know the way I
Speaker 1: got it. I think they were going, um, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to get something to eat and simple, I mean,
Speaker 1: nonsense altercation. Uh he ends up getting stabbed and ends
Speaker 1: up dying, and yeah, like crazy and now not a
Speaker 1: twist about it is it's like he's a church kid,
Speaker 1: so like this is like, you know, I used to
Speaker 1: curse him out like every day, like just you know,
Speaker 1: just bugging. But I used to like, you know, we
Speaker 1: had a really good relationship, and I gave him as
Speaker 1: really his first shot at being like, you know, a
Speaker 1: role manager, like I got him from Pharrell. He used
Speaker 1: to work with n the r D. Rody Roddy Rody.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, come on you you're about to
Speaker 1: be let's let's raise it up. He was great at it.
Speaker 1: And he used to put together my bands, and I
Speaker 1: used to I used to be like, man, why am
Speaker 1: I band together? His name? He was used to take,
Speaker 1: he used to take God from the church and you know,
Speaker 1: just you know, put my band together. So he wasn't
Speaker 1: that what I'm trying to just give you the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So my mind at the time was on some like okay,
Speaker 1: the first line, now that the tears drying, the pain
Speaker 1: takes over, let's talk this payola. You kill God's baby
Speaker 1: And it wasn't his willing and blood spill. We can't
Speaker 1: talk this ship over, you know. And it's like it's like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, me being in a position I am in
Speaker 1: a position of music, money, having things and just the
Speaker 1: opportunity to be like I can call that shot like
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's that tub of war of
Speaker 1: like damn, you know, do you really do you do this?
Speaker 1: Do you play with this? Do you go? You can?
Speaker 1: You want to? You know what I'm saying. And it's
Speaker 1: like then you think about him and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: if you want that, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: it's like it was a whole Yeah, I didn't live
Speaker 1: with that. Well. I still don't live with that well actually,
Speaker 1: and that's how you came with exactly because I'm playing
Speaker 1: the priest the whole song, I'm playing you know, war
Speaker 1: between the religion, so it's like, you know, I'm like
Speaker 1: calling the shots as a priest. Okay, now this this
Speaker 1: one was the title for me was a shock with
Speaker 1: me do right? Because I was I would I thought
Speaker 1: it would be what would be to do from with me?
Speaker 1: And just it threw me off for looke, what's up
Speaker 1: your ducking down cameras over there? So this tow me
Speaker 1: for a loop? The title? What made you pick that title? Um?
Speaker 1: And you obviously talk about me, you know, um meek
Speaker 1: um meet and somebody I wanted on the album. Meek
Speaker 1: was in jail one from the record. UM. As I
Speaker 1: got that beat, I was like, man, you know Big
Speaker 1: Sean and Meek had a record called Burn that I
Speaker 1: always wish that I had you come on record that
Speaker 1: I wanted to have just myself, And I was like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: I wish Meek was out so that I could do
Speaker 1: this record with me. He wasn't out nothing. Um And
Speaker 1: I like to call me, uh, what do you call them?
Speaker 1: The spirit? The spirit animal like you know, like, uh,
Speaker 1: Meek to me at well, I don't know how all
Speaker 1: it is. It's what I feel like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: what It's what I don't do at my age. But
Speaker 1: that's what I wan. Yeah, but it's what I what
Speaker 1: what inspires me. Like I look at me and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, you all your homeboys, everybody who came in,
Speaker 1: everybody who I came into the game with, it was
Speaker 1: locked up since oh nine we came in O two
Speaker 1: that I didn't I didn't get to run around, you know,
Speaker 1: fifty deep and you know, just bring bring everybody with me,
Speaker 1: have a blast. I mean we did for a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you know they ended up going to jail. Boom.
Speaker 1: I look at me and I'm like, damn, meek, I
Speaker 1: know all the fun that you have them right now.
Speaker 1: I love it like it's and I look at it
Speaker 1: and inspires me. So I said, U, I wanted him
Speaker 1: on the record. He didn't. He didn't get on the record.
Speaker 1: Of course he was in jail. Um, And that line
Speaker 1: came up. Angel on my shoulder, what should we do?
Speaker 1: Devil on the other, what would meet do? Papa Willie
Speaker 1: tell the judge middle fingers out the gold, screaming Martha,
Speaker 1: you know like And I was just I was just
Speaker 1: trying to embody and harness that whole energy because I
Speaker 1: felt like it was someplace where he belonged, like I
Speaker 1: still today believe he belonged on that. And then he
Speaker 1: gets out of jail, and I was like, man, listen,
Speaker 1: he gets he gets out of jail. As the project
Speaker 1: comes out, we we dim it back and forth, like
Speaker 1: we we have birthdays that are close. In fact, I
Speaker 1: got a record where you and me together we have
Speaker 1: we have we have a we have birthdays similar not
Speaker 1: but in his son birthday, me and his son's shared
Speaker 1: same birthday in May. Wow. And but he just got out,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't bring myself to ask them to be
Speaker 1: on the record because you're just like a doing it,
Speaker 1: you know, and we didn't do it, and hopefully we
Speaker 1: do something soon. I'm not sure we will, but that's
Speaker 1: what it was. That's that's where the whole energy came from.
Speaker 1: The rappers really going protect. Yeah, I believe so too.
Speaker 1: I mean, like right now people are making you feel
Speaker 1: like if you don't have a protect you're not even
Speaker 1: in the game. You had to find other ways to invest,
Speaker 1: found every way to ruin protext. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: and a lot of these guys that got the stateless
Speaker 1: it's cool, we don't mind, you don't mind, It's fine,
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, this is to protect Faith's faith
Speaker 1: A fantasy. This is the thing to me, Like I'm
Speaker 1: really fat fat, I don't, I don't really, I'm not
Speaker 1: into the fad, Like I'm not really into the fat
Speaker 1: of watches, Like I'm I'm into watches and I'm in
Speaker 1: the rolling watches. I'm gonna be honest, I would look
Speaker 1: at all your interview different. But I mean just because
Speaker 1: I'm in it like that and for that particular brand,
Speaker 1: because of just what that always meant that always meant
Speaker 1: like a status symbol of course coming up, but it
Speaker 1: was always once I got deeper, it was like okay, boom,
Speaker 1: you know, you get the green car with it, like,
Speaker 1: you know, have your name on that green car because
Speaker 1: it'll be somebody else's name in that green car. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, you played all that and then us know
Speaker 1: that we're sorry, and so you know, the whole protect
Speaker 1: line is just man, you know, rapping is about bragging.
Speaker 1: It's about having that. You know, it's about that competitive
Speaker 1: spirit at some point and you know you gotta one
Speaker 1: up somebody. You know, four dot for dot o verse
Speaker 1: for dot since but you're always pronouncing some ship that
Speaker 1: we can't even pronounce. You always like I don't know
Speaker 1: you always I'm rocking up listen, you know, But do
Speaker 1: you know why that is? Because when when you know,
Speaker 1: when I when I was you know, being a fan
Speaker 1: of like Hole and things like that. Uh man, I
Speaker 1: didn't know I'm I'm I'm, I'm wearing Polo snow Beach.
Speaker 1: He's talking about you. I don't even know what this is?
Speaker 1: Like what is this? Was? That was that rap helped
Speaker 1: you like go to these other worlds it's not going
Speaker 1: on your Instagram sometimes and you be pulling in like
Speaker 1: when people I'm like, I don't know who the fun
Speaker 1: the snicker is. You're looking at the way you describe
Speaker 1: like like I know this guy, what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: like this that is that the further you go, like,
Speaker 1: it's different tastes because like right now, um, I love Gucci,
Speaker 1: right man, But if I go to the Gucci store,
Speaker 1: I promise you by the time I leave this jacket
Speaker 1: and I come out there is gonna have a picture
Speaker 1: of the same exact jacket. I'm on fact. And then
Speaker 1: then I go back and you know, two weeks later,
Speaker 1: I gotta get another jacket, and Fat Joe was gonna
Speaker 1: have the same exact jacket. But it's these different brands,
Speaker 1: like even when Go y'all, Like when Go Y'all first
Speaker 1: came out, I didn't identify with it, looked I thought
Speaker 1: it was an imitation. Then I realize that they had
Speaker 1: their own, So like, how is it to like discover
Speaker 1: these brands that people like the Hood don't though, Man,
Speaker 1: you know I feel like the Hood normal people don't know, well, well,
Speaker 1: you know this this is the thing I felt like, Man,
Speaker 1: when When I think about hip hop and I think
Speaker 1: about Slick Rick, I feel like, man, he was like
Speaker 1: the flyest ever to me, Like it's Gucci is this
Speaker 1: you got the Louis Tom pouch with the gun and
Speaker 1: it's I'm I'm fucked up. I'm like, yo, this is
Speaker 1: But that's what I always thought hip hop was. It
Speaker 1: was like, man, you gotta you gotta come back to
Speaker 1: the block and be like, look, this is what I'm on.
Speaker 1: You ain't on this, and this is somebody got one
Speaker 1: up you in so on and so forth, and and
Speaker 1: that's how That's how I look at wrap. That's how
Speaker 1: what's tho stinkers you had on with Colin Kapernick. I've
Speaker 1: been trying to figure that out there. Let's that's not
Speaker 1: the floss Lisen, the real flosses, the real flosses, Deos
Speaker 1: dressing all of us for my wedding. That's the real
Speaker 1: flaw frial ship, like the over real ship. Okay, real
Speaker 1: ship really Okay, I don't even know you didn't do
Speaker 1: like that custom that. So you're talking to fashion, but lyrically,
Speaker 1: who inspired you? Like going back as far as back
Speaker 1: as you can go, Lyrically, Lyrically um you know, biggest
Speaker 1: goat god level. It's nothing to talk about to me.
Speaker 1: Um hold of course now is of course? I mean
Speaker 1: you know my deep ruin my whole life, like my
Speaker 1: whole life like ruined my whole Why step outside because
Speaker 1: of this because they're talking like this. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think people did shoot off the music. Yeah, I'm one
Speaker 1: of them kids. I sunked up like yo, was anybody
Speaker 1: locally like where you were at that inspired you too
Speaker 1: as well? Man? You know, um what what where I'm from?
Speaker 1: Um Man, let me tell y'all some real ship just
Speaker 1: so you understand, like where it is that I'm from.
Speaker 1: Like Pharrell grew up one mile away from my house,
Speaker 1: not even a mile, right, I didn't know him. Timberland
Speaker 1: was a mile the other way, and that was my friend.
Speaker 1: That was my brother's friend before my older brothers their five.
Speaker 1: Yeah I have another older girl, but you know Timberland
Speaker 1: up the street the other way. To like for my
Speaker 1: brother to be able to go to his house and
Speaker 1: wrap while he DJ. My mom used to make him
Speaker 1: take me. So I'm if we if if if they're fourteen,
Speaker 1: I'm nine. That's the only way you could go for real?
Speaker 1: Is this way. I don't know him. I don't even
Speaker 1: know him at all. Timerland know each other, yes, I
Speaker 1: believe they do. But no, by no means no, this
Speaker 1: is high school. This is high school. No, this is
Speaker 1: middle school. And and you know in in elementary yeah
Speaker 1: kind of yea beach. Mr Elliot's up the street, Hugo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hugoes not a mile from me now. Because because of
Speaker 1: zoning and like school zoning and ship like, they don't
Speaker 1: want certain places to go to certain all of us
Speaker 1: were split up. Now. I just told you all we
Speaker 1: lived within three miles of each other, but we all
Speaker 1: go to different schools. Boom. Right, I have a home
Speaker 1: girl who goes to school with Chad. She lives up
Speaker 1: the street from me. We don't go to same school together.
Speaker 1: But because you're up the street from me, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see you. We're hanging out. Pharrell likes. The girl asked me, yo,
Speaker 1: you know you see me? Yo? What's up you? You
Speaker 1: deal with her? I'm like, no, this is like my
Speaker 1: best friend. And he's like, you know, okay. Boom. He
Speaker 1: finds out he was like, yo, your brother's Jeane Malice.
Speaker 1: Your brother's Jeane. I'm like yeah, He's like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: he's like the best rapper in the world of me.
Speaker 1: Can we work with each other? I'm like, no, he
Speaker 1: works with Tim. He don't want to work with you,
Speaker 1: you know, And all of this is happening. I'm not rapping.
Speaker 1: I don't even rap at this point in my life,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just just here, you know. And Timberland and
Speaker 1: is up working with Genuine and all of that. They
Speaker 1: go to New Jersey. That opens the door for for
Speaker 1: Rell to link with my brother. Now I'm skipping school,
Speaker 1: not going I'm skipping school, just going to the studio
Speaker 1: with them every day. You know. That's how that whole
Speaker 1: thing when so when you say people like mind you
Speaker 1: at the same time for Rell's high school his next
Speaker 1: door to Teddy Riley's studio. He just so it's like
Speaker 1: the first show in, you know, and then you know,
Speaker 1: you go into like gods like mad skills, like mad skills, uh,
Speaker 1: tripical quests at the time, and I'm like wow, like
Speaker 1: people get to do this, Like you know, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at him like go any nice. You know. It's um,
Speaker 1: it was a lot, man, it was a lot going
Speaker 1: on Virginia at that time, and you had that whole
Speaker 1: energy going on. Then you had the whole district culture.
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody from New York moved to Virginia
Speaker 1: to get money. I feel like that, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like the way the work was moving, that's just what
Speaker 1: it was like. It was the first Virginia Beach, was
Speaker 1: the first Atlanta, Miami whatever. You came down here first,
Speaker 1: that first. You know, every every rap song in the
Speaker 1: nineties had Virginia Beach references. You talk about Mace Big whatever.
Speaker 1: That was what it was. I'm not gonna lie your girls.
Speaker 1: Was mad easy to come on. Some respects out there, girls,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Even even before then, even before then,
Speaker 1: like you think about public Enemy and you think about
Speaker 1: can't trust it. In the videos they were shooting, it
Speaker 1: was the water holes and the kids, and that's all Virginia.
Speaker 1: I believe it was Alan Iverson's life that actually made
Speaker 1: us realized, Wow, Virginia, Oh is fucking man, listen, it's
Speaker 1: insane AI because he's from Virginia correct net correct Newport
Speaker 1: Newport News at Hampton, I forget. But but Alan Iverson
Speaker 1: by far is like I mean, for me personally, is
Speaker 1: uh that's you know, that's idle hero level you know,
Speaker 1: and people like, yo, man, not too long ago, he
Speaker 1: gave me a jersey right and signed it, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was crazy. They put it on internet or whatever's
Speaker 1: on ESPN or whatever, and people was like, man, why
Speaker 1: you made he from around away? I'm like, so, whatt
Speaker 1: you crazy? Right? This guy's like you know, they see me,
Speaker 1: they've see me party and don't care, like you don't.
Speaker 1: You know, I still look at him a certain way,
Speaker 1: like you know you look at people a certain ways,
Speaker 1: like it just is what it is for me. And
Speaker 1: that's up. Yeah, I relax. I gotta relax. I went
Speaker 1: too far. I went too far. Okay, So that verse
Speaker 1: Ya says he's a man dollar babies, billion dollar babies
Speaker 1: and dollar by I don't know beon dollar nigga, Like listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, And you know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know. M I know what he says, but
Speaker 1: and I believe what he says. But I know how
Speaker 1: these people line up for them shoes and everything that
Speaker 1: they're doing. And I mean, it's it's definitely, uh this'
Speaker 1: there like I believe it's there, like you know, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Man's god, damn it beautiful. All right, So we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into the last joint. I mean, obviously, yes, we
Speaker 1: had to get into the talk of the town, talk
Speaker 1: of the business. Let's talk about I'm not to speak
Speaker 1: about this joint because I'm not gonna speak about the
Speaker 1: actual thing that it started. This record is actually a
Speaker 1: great record. But were you trying to um accomplished by Infrared?
Speaker 1: Because to me, this whole record is not about what
Speaker 1: people are making it about. It didn't seem it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean you only slick on that it's just
Speaker 1: about it's about To me, it's just about the reality
Speaker 1: of hip hop. Um, because you said it was like
Speaker 1: it was written when it came from quick and is
Speaker 1: that what started the issue? Be for now? But we
Speaker 1: don't have to get into that. Let's just get into
Speaker 1: the record. So you know, you know, you know, basically, um,
Speaker 1: basically that song Infrared was was a response to um
Speaker 1: two Birds, One Stone and you know, and it was
Speaker 1: a response to just in in in the most I
Speaker 1: feel like, uh you know, uh, battle back and forth
Speaker 1: type of way, you know, you throw your jabs out
Speaker 1: thought mine. Um, you know, it wasn't it wasn't solely
Speaker 1: about that. It was just about like me, my position
Speaker 1: and wrap somebody is is challenging my credibility, street credibility,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Question and that it's okay, boom,
Speaker 1: now I got a question. Song, let's question these things together.
Speaker 1: We can all do together. It's fine, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's like you know, um, still I feel like it
Speaker 1: was it was it was, It was still lyrical. It
Speaker 1: was still but two birds in one store. I tried
Speaker 1: to actually go and look for that, like if I
Speaker 1: don't really see where he's going at you, Um, it
Speaker 1: was it was about the It was about the uh
Speaker 1: something about you know, you was watching scar Face you
Speaker 1: weren't really doing this or I don't even remember the
Speaker 1: bars like that, but it was something of that nature. Um,
Speaker 1: A couple of a couple of a couple of jobs
Speaker 1: and that, and you know, it was what it was. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: now this is where we turn up. Now push So
Speaker 1: since Mr Me too? Right, Okay? What what what actually
Speaker 1: inspired Mr? Me too? Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you own what happened to that boy? Um we even
Speaker 1: I believe even the grinding remix was me you birdman?
Speaker 1: And was it Wayne? And I don't think Wayne was no,
Speaker 1: it was no. He might have been on this, He
Speaker 1: might have been on where where did this this? I know,
Speaker 1: I know there's an interview. That's it. It's okay, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: ok And what did they said? They said, you're trying
Speaker 1: to look like the clips. I guess they said something
Speaker 1: to him in regards to that and way, and so
Speaker 1: when they said that or whatever, um, he just answered
Speaker 1: it in a real uh, condescending way. It was aggressive.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was And at this time,
Speaker 1: we're going through like the wildest of label the wilds
Speaker 1: of like label drama, like we out heard. I heard
Speaker 1: about this justin Timberlake situation. Whe wouldn't even work with
Speaker 1: Justin because he was so bad about the job, right, okay,
Speaker 1: but so um so um, and I was just damn like, man,
Speaker 1: it was such a better way to answer that, Like
Speaker 1: we we rappers, like, I don't gotta cut nobody if
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't gotta say nothing crazy
Speaker 1: in regards to anybody if I don't want to, I
Speaker 1: know how to, you know, talk around things. But I
Speaker 1: knew you was dangerous, right because it kept going on
Speaker 1: and Wheezy kept getting hotter, and he kept getting hotter,
Speaker 1: and most people would back down, like you were at
Speaker 1: mix tape Wheezy, like you wouldn't have the dude that
Speaker 1: was chopping everybody. Listeners are clear, this is going back,
Speaker 1: this is bad, this is mix tape. When he was
Speaker 1: on way, he was out of here. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting back and I'm a rapper, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a rapper. Two So I'm sitting back and I'm like pushing,
Speaker 1: not back and down. And I expected because everybody when
Speaker 1: you go on fire, because the the common census is
Speaker 1: when a person goes at a person, that's all fired.
Speaker 1: You're hating. So I thought you would back down just
Speaker 1: over that. Oh just you know, and you just did.
Speaker 1: You know. It's um. What people need to realize as
Speaker 1: far as I go, is I never want to make
Speaker 1: their records like you know, if you look at my career,
Speaker 1: I've made the same record my whole career, I've made
Speaker 1: the same album basically my whole career. I've talked about
Speaker 1: the same thing my whole career period. Then you're not
Speaker 1: chasing the trend. I'm not chasing radio. I'm not chasing nothing.
Speaker 1: So when people say that, it's sort of funny to
Speaker 1: me because it's like, man, my record is still gonna
Speaker 1: be about the street is still gonna be about you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know just how you know my perspective and my
Speaker 1: point of view from a street perspective. Um, it's still
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, drugs is gonna be the the
Speaker 1: common thread, you know, and it's still gonna be lyrical.
Speaker 1: It's still gonna be you know, You're gonna have the
Speaker 1: metaphors and the parallels. I'm gonna still put it together.
Speaker 1: How we how we put it together? You know. Um,
Speaker 1: when people say that to me, it's it's crazy because
Speaker 1: because you know, you've never heard me, You've never heard
Speaker 1: me really try to chase a wild trend or be
Speaker 1: part of uh, be part of the wave. You've never
Speaker 1: tried to be part of the wave. Ever, you don't
Speaker 1: have to. You don't have to be a part of
Speaker 1: the wave when you provide the water. Goddamn, I don't
Speaker 1: gotta follow a wave the water, you know what I'm saying. So, um, okay, uh,
Speaker 1: mr me too. Happens he this this interview happens bom
Speaker 1: things have settled down. These guys are on top. You
Speaker 1: now transition to president of Good Music. All right, but
Speaker 1: at this time it's kind of like a little turmoil
Speaker 1: between the two. Right, you choose to kind of mind
Speaker 1: your business because you know that has a relationship with
Speaker 1: Drake and then so so let's just just skip for
Speaker 1: a certain time. J Prince. Okay, he just says, Um
Speaker 1: that Drake has a career ending record ending record response
Speaker 1: response to you and to right, what do you? What
Speaker 1: do you think of that? Um, it's the first time
Speaker 1: you look sleepy. Then it's over because response. No, you know,
Speaker 1: just to be honest with you, man, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's absolutely nothing that they would do for my best interests. Nothing.
Speaker 1: They want to look out for you for nothing, for
Speaker 1: no reason at all. When they when they had they're
Speaker 1: gonna pull that mother. Um. You know, whatever whatever their
Speaker 1: decision is or decision making is, it is based off
Speaker 1: of you know, what's best for them. Um. You know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, I don't know what ends
Speaker 1: my career. But I haven't you know, I ain't never
Speaker 1: told on nobody, you know, I'm I am who I am.
Speaker 1: I've never done I don't even know what's career ending
Speaker 1: these days, But whatever it is, whatever I ain't done.
Speaker 1: So you know, um, you know, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like I said, those conversations were had and
Speaker 1: uh and then and and those conversations we had without
Speaker 1: that sound bite let's let's let's let let's let's let
Speaker 1: it be. But that in particularly phrase was not many
Speaker 1: That wasn't happening the but you know, and uh, it
Speaker 1: was it was it was to be left alone. So
Speaker 1: you're saying it was a mutual ending of it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't any No, I'm not I'm saying this. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, there were things that were that
Speaker 1: were said during during the conversation between my management and
Speaker 1: him in particular. Yeah, okay that uh it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't aggressive, it wasn't anything. It was it
Speaker 1: was all cool and like his artist, yeah, just sat.
Speaker 1: But so so what I'm saying is the narrative about
Speaker 1: the career ending and all of that, that's all after
Speaker 1: and after the conversation, right, I don't know about that
Speaker 1: during the conversation. I don't know about that. And it's
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. Hey, okay, got it,
Speaker 1: you got it. Okay, But but you dropped Infra red Yes,
Speaker 1: Infra red drops two days later? Was it? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: uh what does he drop? Dope? Dopey duppy freestyle, duppy
Speaker 1: free style, damn man, duppy free style. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: The industry was like, oh ship they was they were
Speaker 1: nervous to you. The immediate response that was nervous. No,
Speaker 1: it was was heard, don't you start here? Is don't
Speaker 1: start I just wanted you to be on pointin you
Speaker 1: was nervous? Was fast? He came out that No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that wasn't That was impressive. But I was like, I
Speaker 1: feel like, hold on before we jump. I don't want
Speaker 1: to jump that with Meek. Male messed up because Meek
Speaker 1: didn't respond immediately and when he you know what I mean, No,
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't. I don't believe that. I
Speaker 1: feel like um man when it comes when it comes
Speaker 1: to that, I just feel like and I don't even
Speaker 1: want to say he messed up because I sort of
Speaker 1: feel like we saw how different the game is because
Speaker 1: when that happened, Meek never lied to none of us,
Speaker 1: a lot of nobody And that what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: that type of information in the in the in the
Speaker 1: game that we play his career ending was the problem
Speaker 1: that Meek responded on Twitter as opposed to when when
Speaker 1: Drake just went straight to the booth, Drake kind of
Speaker 1: went straight to the booth. So well, yeah, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I don't even believe it's
Speaker 1: I believe that it was a a miscalculation of like
Speaker 1: the importance of you know, the writing these days. That's
Speaker 1: what I feel is is there any truth to him
Speaker 1: having access to the record before it came out, that
Speaker 1: that's why he rake? Oh you know, um, I mean
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I don't know, I have I
Speaker 1: have no clue. You know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: when you when you are promoting the album, you letting
Speaker 1: people hear it, you let you gotta let the writers
Speaker 1: and all that. I'm pretty sure they have you know whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be. It could be. So now you released this,
Speaker 1: you're hearing Drake is coming back. Drake. Actually, one thing
Speaker 1: that I've never heard you speak about ever personally is
Speaker 1: your relationship. Right, he brings up, where are you atting it?
Speaker 1: Where do you feel is this all gloves off? It's
Speaker 1: just like because because and and all of his Virginia,
Speaker 1: Williams correct, because I'm thinking that is a place in Virginia. Like,
Speaker 1: that's how dumb I am. I'm like, that's how much
Speaker 1: you see, That's how much you protective of yours. That's
Speaker 1: you know. What I mean is I'm like, where is
Speaker 1: vis I've never know. I didn't know that, And the
Speaker 1: people was like no, so is it? Like what are
Speaker 1: you thinking? What are you thinking that you're thinking? Like
Speaker 1: this guy? Man? You know, like you know it immediately
Speaker 1: just put me because it's like, okay, boom and records
Speaker 1: coming out. I already know responsible bang, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: But then you gotta like what I'm listening because before
Speaker 1: then he really kind of like he kind of was
Speaker 1: careful with you. He kind of responded to everybody else,
Speaker 1: but he kind of like when he when he was
Speaker 1: talking about you, asponding with you, he was very very careful.
Speaker 1: So I can't I can't say that I saw him
Speaker 1: coming back this spec Oh no, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that. You know, it was it was known
Speaker 1: that the record was coming of yours. Okay boom um.
Speaker 1: Once that you know, once that came out, um, it
Speaker 1: was just like okay, response mode like it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: what you know, you're definitely I'm definitely gonna respond. And
Speaker 1: then you just you know, you just sort of look
Speaker 1: at it, man, and you just sort of have to
Speaker 1: analyze the record at that point and then you just
Speaker 1: pick it apart. And that's what I feel like I did.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Boom, we're gonna like, first of all,
Speaker 1: why would you mention her? You don't do that like that.
Speaker 1: You know women and kids, let melm Oka and you
Speaker 1: knew about the porn stuff. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Slow me that boys. So I'm just like, you know, Boom,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, why would this happen like this?
Speaker 1: And then um, then it just you know, and then
Speaker 1: it was like man, it just couldn't for me. At
Speaker 1: that point, I was like, man, this is like not
Speaker 1: this ain't I usual put a pad back and forth,
Speaker 1: you know, like like I was like, all right, bet so,
Speaker 1: now you gotta sort of look at it and look
Speaker 1: at um, start looking at who who you're dealing with
Speaker 1: and what like. And to me, I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: think the line was that good, right, the Virginia line.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that good. I was like,
Speaker 1: so you reached, and I got to realize, like, why
Speaker 1: did you think that was so important to say? Because
Speaker 1: it wasn't that good to me and something that would
Speaker 1: be good to me said, but kind of like sort
Speaker 1: of reach you like whole kind of messed up. But
Speaker 1: when he did that, like with nas no, like bringing
Speaker 1: up like the girl, but he continued, yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: I just I just sort of felt like that and
Speaker 1: then then it just it just started. It just gave
Speaker 1: me content like okay, boom, why is this like this?
Speaker 1: Why would you say that you knew about the poet
Speaker 1: start prior? Yeah, so you it's your dangerous niggers. Listen,
Speaker 1: listen yet catch your strategic just here, like it's like
Speaker 1: backup and listen, listen, listen all right. So you, however,
Speaker 1: knowing that there will be of a response, but you
Speaker 1: might have held that response. You might have held the
Speaker 1: points are for the like the third disk or the
Speaker 1: third This ain't no I'm just saying, but you look
Speaker 1: at the like is done, he got more, he got more,
Speaker 1: he got three. Okay, now how does one know about this?
Speaker 1: Adda closed line? What the fire? I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna Drake goes to battle Rat battle. I've
Speaker 1: seen Drake in battle Rat concerts, like on stage two,
Speaker 1: so he can't really say it's anything too far. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, you know what I'm saying. But it is fine.
Speaker 1: God bless him, good, God bless him. But killers ben show,
Speaker 1: Hey Hamas in the real one, Hot one, you don't
Speaker 1: want to feel one. He got this show. They always
Speaker 1: signed by my presence at right, I've always being impression
Speaker 1: show Bend he showed, Bendy Show, Bendy Show, the Bendy
Speaker 1: shown holding guns with guns I used to leave back
Speaker 1: on the way yea with my son's make him this
Speaker 1: is specking what they're thinking Movo Lulu work Now now
Speaker 1: you think he Kingpin trying front clap nigas. That's the
Speaker 1: end of storm. What told us soldiers hold the work?
Speaker 1: Just another second for me? I'm straight low when I'm frying.
Speaker 1: See you ps hurt? That day was hot in this shown,
Speaker 1: Hey Homus, in the real one, Hot one, you don't
Speaker 1: want to feel one? He got? He shown. They always
Speaker 1: haided by my presence. Act right, I'm always been impressed
Speaker 1: he gave. In the show Bend, he showed them Bendy show.
Speaker 1: Bendy showed him that he showed he got Bendy shown.
Speaker 1: Then he showed Bendy shown. Bendy showed him that he
Speaker 1: showed he got in his showing again. They call a
Speaker 1: podcast poppy niggas just kin goes. I see they're trying
Speaker 1: to drop. Here comes in the chage of town rints
Speaker 1: and you ain't versing no ship like this. What tell
Speaker 1: me something about Joe know what? Tell me something I
Speaker 1: don't know. What tell me something I don't know, like
Speaker 1: when this ship dropped home, gave me the shoe, call
Speaker 1: me y out on the late night. I'm said to
Speaker 1: play fight see fine break night. This line pros wat
Speaker 1: just like a breaking late and you can get it
Speaker 1: right or your great side. Uh So tell me something
Speaker 1: I don't know. Fifty dollar pizza when I'm getting so hot.
Speaker 1: I heard that you went out with the cokec something
Speaker 1: your nose hitting him there on the phone. We don't
Speaker 1: hate me to hate me? What should I do? Keep
Speaker 1: getting money? It's funny. I was just like you. Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday, drink chap for the facts. Security guard to
Speaker 1: Kevin Hard to relax. Oh, tell me something about don't
Speaker 1: know what, tell me something. I don't know what. Tell
Speaker 1: me something I don't know, Like when this ship drops
Speaker 1: Home came into Joe, Come tell me something about don't
Speaker 1: know what. Tell me something. I don't know what. Tell
Speaker 1: me something I don't know, like when this ship drops
Speaker 1: Home came into joke Ca. So how did you know that? Like,
Speaker 1: so you knew that the clothes line was related to
Speaker 1: the porn star who's related to the knock of the mean, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a Dida spies because you know, no, not
Speaker 1: at all with him. Kanye and Drakes meet and that's
Speaker 1: the thing. It really wasn't so so listen, let just
Speaker 1: be honest. Listen. After I heard the record, right, I
Speaker 1: ms to lead, I said, man, you know we need
Speaker 1: to put your on. He's like, you wants to come on,
Speaker 1: he said, he wants to remind you a ship that
Speaker 1: you don't even remember. I said, that's a dis record
Speaker 1: close remember like that. He's just like going on you
Speaker 1: that that's just some rapper ship. Like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, just just just good stories. Okay, but let's go,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's stick with Drake. So you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna spar man, you don't know he's going to bring
Speaker 1: in your person you think you're gonna do that? Or
Speaker 1: did you did you expect No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: nothing like that. You didn't explain. So now that he
Speaker 1: did it, Yeah, what was your first response because you
Speaker 1: were calm? No, I just you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I felt like I just felt like I just had
Speaker 1: to evaluate the situation a little differently. Like you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's been jabs, you know, tap tap everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, you take something, I take some more moms cool,
Speaker 1: but um, I just felt like it just went it
Speaker 1: just you know, I went across the line with that
Speaker 1: for real, And that's just that's really it for me.
Speaker 1: For you. So now you go on the studio, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you bring up the whole beat, which is like, which
Speaker 1: is like, that's like real, Like what do I want
Speaker 1: to call it? I can't call it afro centric for
Speaker 1: it's like it's like that's that revolution and it's that's
Speaker 1: that revolutionary music when the sauce, it's that thing what
Speaker 1: made you go because I had the picture Okay, so
Speaker 1: you have to picture priory okay, okay, prior to what,
Speaker 1: prior to him his response or prior just Perior. You
Speaker 1: just what this is because you know what it feels
Speaker 1: like you Drake. Drake, that's when it feels like it
Speaker 1: feels like you did exactly to him when he did
Speaker 1: the song of I mean, I'm just doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: that to anybody else. So so so you had to
Speaker 1: picture before infra Red came out. Um, yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1: So let me just think this is some real this
Speaker 1: is this is some real hip hop history. Ah ah.
Speaker 1: Did you think did you think you would? Um? Did
Speaker 1: you think you would hear Ja Prince say something like that,
Speaker 1: like saying that they would there there is no response.
Speaker 1: I would That's the last person I thought would be speaking.
Speaker 1: Who J Prince? Yeah, because y'all got a relationship. You've
Speaker 1: always been cool. Okay, no, no matter, Okay. J Prince
Speaker 1: is cool. He's a cooling come on, man, he's he's
Speaker 1: created some greatness of course, of course. And um, so
Speaker 1: when he said that he advised Drake not to sponse,
Speaker 1: it was a piece of your petty side. Just the
Speaker 1: petty side was like, of course, like I'm just asking, man,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just drinking. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: for sure you don't take a shot to it more.
Speaker 1: I mean we got more. I get to it. But
Speaker 1: let me answer you. Um man, you know I just
Speaker 1: feel like when you when when when when you deal
Speaker 1: in like truth? Right, It's like like I said, I've
Speaker 1: said a lot. I don't got skeletons, don't got things
Speaker 1: that I don't got nothing I'm ashamed of in this world,
Speaker 1: like for real, like I ain't even doing no line
Speaker 1: and nobody. Come on, bro, I had to I said
Speaker 1: it to say, but like I don't like I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know it wasn't I know who
Speaker 1: I am, but I know it like it's nothing. And
Speaker 1: then it shake me about like you know, you know
Speaker 1: you dragged me into it. You know you know she
Speaker 1: built Ford tough for real? But where what's up? But
Speaker 1: who knows who's coming? Who knows she she going to?
Speaker 1: Like it's whatever man, like the poet star girl of
Speaker 1: a d m U or anything. No, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't, I don't no no connections or
Speaker 1: you don't even poke with your niggers who don't pay
Speaker 1: your support. I repecting expect that, I had expectact. So
Speaker 1: what what what? What? What does the benefit of because
Speaker 1: hip hop declared you the right and um, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Drake can um probably do a
Speaker 1: response whatever? Right now hip hop from puff Daddy to
Speaker 1: everybody is saying, you know, he had a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time you're supposed to spawns did the same thing.
Speaker 1: But um, I remember not spawning six months later. But
Speaker 1: this this is something different. This is because we're in
Speaker 1: a different time. So what is the benefits now? Like
Speaker 1: you know of of people knowing that you are baff
Speaker 1: of Ball the Floyd Mayweatherer of our generation. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know what the real
Speaker 1: benefit is and I don't I mean personally on just
Speaker 1: some rap type time. Man, I hope I'm not getting
Speaker 1: it from this, Like it's like it's sort of weird,
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, I'm not even saying that because
Speaker 1: because of the yeah, like I gotta get it. So
Speaker 1: what do you feel about Drake as a as an
Speaker 1: m C period? Like real talk? I feel he makes
Speaker 1: I feel that we know people say he has a ghost, right,
Speaker 1: but do you feel he has an MC? But then
Speaker 1: that we're not gonna talk him. We're just gonna talk
Speaker 1: about That's what that's where it. Yeah, we're just gonna
Speaker 1: talk records and the records are good. No baby, no
Speaker 1: big at all, Like that's what it is. I feel
Speaker 1: like you don't. I forgot the let's do it. I
Speaker 1: can't believe you know. Let me just tell you something
Speaker 1: us because the thing about it is, um, so many
Speaker 1: people do other things, like you got to sneak a thing,
Speaker 1: you got to play close things, which the other day
Speaker 1: I thought, my man, that's what you gotta start give
Speaker 1: me on my play clothes. I thought my man had
Speaker 1: a boot like play close. But I couldn't tell because
Speaker 1: because he had all it was pink play cloth. It
Speaker 1: was pink. I was just like you, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know it was you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You guys king, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, but you got these other things, but
Speaker 1: you wanted these guys to say so consistent through music,
Speaker 1: like people depend and respect on you do music. Earlier,
Speaker 1: you said that you took out hot hatus for three years.
Speaker 1: How would that feel as a person that that's your soul?
Speaker 1: You know, your cares is the music? How do you
Speaker 1: take it home? You know? You know, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't believe. I don't believe that what I do goes
Speaker 1: out of style. That's the thing, Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: lyric driven hip hop goes out of stop. I don't
Speaker 1: think that the streets go out of stop. Period. So
Speaker 1: do you believe it in a consistency? It's without time,
Speaker 1: It's just what you do. Listen. My album is called
Speaker 1: Daytona because you know, Rolex Daytona is my favorite watch.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I had the luxury of time
Speaker 1: to make it. That's why it is what it is.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, that's what That's what
Speaker 1: me and Yates Cuba like, man, this is we got
Speaker 1: the time to make it, and we're gonna give you
Speaker 1: seven and music regardless, period and that and that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's what we sort of, uh, that's what we
Speaker 1: live in off of. Um what's the lead? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I said, you know, I know
Speaker 1: who I'm talking to every time, every time, I know
Speaker 1: exactly who I'm talking to when I'm when I'm writing
Speaker 1: the verse, I know exactly who I want it to
Speaker 1: resonate with. I know exactly the club I want to
Speaker 1: go to. Would it change if you didn't thought like
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like if the music for you, if you
Speaker 1: didn't know who you were talking to, but it was
Speaker 1: what you felt, would it change if it changed that
Speaker 1: you knew that these people that you thought you were
Speaker 1: talking to change they you know, you know, I can't
Speaker 1: really look at it like that because the reaction from
Speaker 1: the streets be so loud when they hear a verse
Speaker 1: or when they hear an album, or when they hear
Speaker 1: a song. I say something, you know, I say something,
Speaker 1: and then you had the mike out there, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the just came in. But I'm talking before you could
Speaker 1: even get that reaction. If you thought that that, maybe
Speaker 1: that wasn't there anymore now, because I don't think that
Speaker 1: doesn't I don't think who you are like you want
Speaker 1: to do what you do. Yeah, but I just don't
Speaker 1: think that that goes anywhere. I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like my niche in wrap. I don't know if anybody
Speaker 1: can get articulate street Wrap anywhere else from them, then me,
Speaker 1: I believe that. I guess the point I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make for artists, I'm just trying to like, if an
Speaker 1: artist is listing right, yeah, you know artists tend to
Speaker 1: always be like what's popping, what's hot? What? What is
Speaker 1: the audience? And I think is gonna gonna resonate with me?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's wrong. That's what I'm trying to get.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's wrong. I mean, I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, you make what you make, and then who
Speaker 1: who works with that is who fox with it, and
Speaker 1: then that's who you funk with, and then you master
Speaker 1: that and you grow that. I don't think that, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's what you going They're reaching. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: how do you know I want to drink this? I
Speaker 1: didn't even want to drink your career, Ya don't even
Speaker 1: drink this ship might because that's fine. I do drink
Speaker 1: Its cool. So that didn't hit me. That didn't hit
Speaker 1: me a little? Um you know man? You know do
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be here this long? Man? That
Speaker 1: revelation hit me the other day like for real when
Speaker 1: I when I like and it just started hitting me recently,
Speaker 1: like I want to say, like from two thousand twelve,
Speaker 1: like the ten year anniversary of Lord Willing two sixteen,
Speaker 1: the ten year anniversary at Hell Have more Fury, Like
Speaker 1: it's like I'm like damn man, like ten joints. That's
Speaker 1: crazy now, and then when I really think about it's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's really sixteen joints. Really been his sixteen joints. Really
Speaker 1: like some people saying this one is my best album?
Speaker 1: Who know it? Mean it? You know? I never I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen the artists grow and get better
Speaker 1: the way you grow and get better. Pause thank you.
Speaker 1: And it's because it's because they think about it is
Speaker 1: you come from actually our error like which is an
Speaker 1: older ever than Kanye the area before, and you've been
Speaker 1: able to maintain these errors. And the thing about it,
Speaker 1: there's other people been able to maintain those errors, but
Speaker 1: they've been maybe to maintain it justin single wise, there's
Speaker 1: no one to be able to make maintain that crown
Speaker 1: and the body, the whole body of work with a
Speaker 1: whole new generation funk with it too. It's amazing what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Like you know what I'm saying that I
Speaker 1: have no you the value of the whole album that
Speaker 1: we're missing for a long time. That is beautiful, That
Speaker 1: is that should be that should be saluted. Um and
Speaker 1: and the thing about it is you, you like you
Speaker 1: come from the greatest producers. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you would've got a lot to do with it. I
Speaker 1: see a listening party, I've seen Swiss, Yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: for of course you got about it. I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot to do with it. You become a producer
Speaker 1: when you when you're hanging around aducer so much. I was,
Speaker 1: I just don't wish. I wish in my mind, I
Speaker 1: just don't want to pressing. But I want to hear
Speaker 1: the prey a version of your help, just to see
Speaker 1: what differences. You know, it was fire, but but like
Speaker 1: like who are the producers? Like was it local producers?
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, say who? Yeah? But or
Speaker 1: less they were they were producers who are of name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely have name. Listen he A and R is all
Speaker 1: my projects xcuse that's the Yeah, he may not do
Speaker 1: all this. So he was he was already he was
Speaker 1: already like picking y'all just producing, okay, And then he
Speaker 1: just decided I wanted to do the whole thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then he was just like and at that time, like
Speaker 1: I said, it was, it was sort of weird time
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just for him, and I just
Speaker 1: felt like, all right, well, if you if that's what
Speaker 1: you want to do, then let's go. Let's go ahead,
Speaker 1: let's go do it. You know it minds you. It's done.
Speaker 1: So did you feel only kind of well you't go
Speaker 1: relating new vocals. Yes, yeah, But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: my album was done. Did you not feel some kind
Speaker 1: of way at that point? I did, But I mean no, no,
Speaker 1: not some kind of way. It's like, uh yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: Like listen, I'm straight student mode when it comes to
Speaker 1: p Yeah, when he comes to like like turning the
Speaker 1: album and taking your input, I wrapped. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: Like and that's all I do, period. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: When it comes to all of the theatrics, you gotta
Speaker 1: listen to, you know, you gotta listen to that. That's
Speaker 1: why I feel like, you know, all of this came
Speaker 1: out this way, it came out strong, this way. Come
Speaker 1: back baby, come back baby. I turned away, come back. Maybe.
Speaker 1: I was like, yea, I don't want this record. I
Speaker 1: don't like it for real, I don't like it. He
Speaker 1: was like, no, listen, I'm telling you you're gonna love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, do it now. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: last time that happened to me was niggas in Paris.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna happen again. Happened. That's why I feel
Speaker 1: for when hollebadi up. A couple of times happen, rap times, rap,
Speaker 1: you know it happens. So let me pick you up
Speaker 1: because you only you, probably the only one of the
Speaker 1: other thigga is that ghost wrote for Ronald McDonald. Nigga, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. Yeah, that was your joint. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: good at my job. I don't know if y'all know bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're just realizing that now. But nigga, you wrote I'm
Speaker 1: loving it. Yeah, I'm loving it. Took a superl just front,
Speaker 1: just up front, but I half a man. But it
Speaker 1: still was like when you think about it would be crazy.
Speaker 1: But but just what you're gonna tell nobody that say,
Speaker 1: we're gonna say any time, no, no, no. I want
Speaker 1: people to know because they need to understand. Shout Steve Stout.
Speaker 1: He gave me. I was like, man, great, and you know,
Speaker 1: having hold on. So you wrote the slogan or you
Speaker 1: wrote the rhyme in the rhyme and they took that
Speaker 1: wrote that You're gonna be that's him. So in this
Speaker 1: wrap he's saying they took it, you know, just so
Speaker 1: you know, I want people to know that part. I
Speaker 1: want artists know that part to keep it publishing, man like,
Speaker 1: make sure you know that check will be nice. But
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm loving have been running for how long? Now?
Speaker 1: I did this about three or that's they slow? Who
Speaker 1: knows what it had been? Half a man back then
Speaker 1: was like, but now you think about it. But but
Speaker 1: but just so just so they know they get back
Speaker 1: is real. I also own fort of the Arby's commercial
Speaker 1: to be clear, the recent Arby's commercial when you hit
Speaker 1: that the crazy, when you hit that guitar strong boy,
Speaker 1: like you learn, you live, you live, and you learn
Speaker 1: you living arties, you learn get getting that you learn. Man,
Speaker 1: You've also been the only person that I've seen that
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown was mad at. But then when I went
Speaker 1: why Bobby Brown, and then I understood. But I've never
Speaker 1: seen Buddy Brown mad like another young black brother. But
Speaker 1: then again, like I said, I wouldn't sarch but that
Speaker 1: was yage decision. It was the actually but yeah, I
Speaker 1: wear what him means. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine,
Speaker 1: but you know, um I was paid for Yeah that
Speaker 1: was like idea, right, yeah, we'll see what it was
Speaker 1: was we had a I had like what what What
Speaker 1: people don't know is this album was really made in
Speaker 1: like real time. And the crazy part about it was
Speaker 1: I had tweeted the day before like, listen, this just
Speaker 1: happened in real time, y'all. I ain't even got this.
Speaker 1: I ain't got that. But listen, even when I get
Speaker 1: my artwork, y'all gonna have it. As soon as I
Speaker 1: get it, I went and made I went made uh
Speaker 1: artwork basically a cover. It was a picture of myself
Speaker 1: and you know, um, like one that morning, it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's strong enough. And um, I was like,
Speaker 1: what you mean you don't think it's strong enough? You're like,
Speaker 1: I just don't. I was like, bro, you picked the photographer,
Speaker 1: you picked, you actually picked all of these pictures. Why
Speaker 1: ain't it strong? He was like, I don't feel like.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it is. And I got an idea,
Speaker 1: and I think it just speaks to what I feel like.
Speaker 1: This album is on and so forth on Moon and
Speaker 1: I was like okay, boom and so My manager had
Speaker 1: called me back and was like, yo, you know he
Speaker 1: want to change the artwork. Ship costs a lot of
Speaker 1: money by why so I hit him back. I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to pay for that. I don't
Speaker 1: want you to do that. I don't want to pay
Speaker 1: for it. And I don't want you to do it
Speaker 1: like you don't gotta do that. We're good, Like I
Speaker 1: love the music, I'm happy, I'm excited. This is how
Speaker 1: many days before releases? This is like a day everything, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to y'all. So what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: I'm texting it. I'm tweeting the day before. Say yo,
Speaker 1: y'all like boom. He sends it over boom, that's what
Speaker 1: it is, and I'm like, you you see it, you
Speaker 1: know what it is, So no, listen, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is, but you know, as soon as it
Speaker 1: hits the net, you start hearing them. You start hearing it,
Speaker 1: and it's like yo, So then I gotta do press.
Speaker 1: The next day, I'm doing phoners. If my phoners is
Speaker 1: all yo, how could you? I? I like, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Then it's TMZ. The it's my mom calling me like yo,
Speaker 1: I see you on what's going on with the thing?
Speaker 1: You know, and you still don't know you like it?
Speaker 1: You know, it's just weird and that's all I know.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's what it is with me. I
Speaker 1: was like, you think it's genius up. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what. But see the way he described it to
Speaker 1: me was he was like, Yo, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like you talk about the streets in a way that's
Speaker 1: like glamorous at the same time, you know, you speak
Speaker 1: about the pitfalls and so on and so forth. He
Speaker 1: was like, man to me, he was like, this album
Speaker 1: and his picture represents so that just that was our
Speaker 1: minds And it wasn't about anything being disrespectful. It wasn't
Speaker 1: my anything. It was just you know. But but mind you,
Speaker 1: I just for the listeners listening right now, when you're
Speaker 1: saying in real time, just to put it in perspective,
Speaker 1: it's just like when Kanye took the picture of it
Speaker 1: on his iPhone the album cover, that's what you met
Speaker 1: in real time. Like that's how it's happening, how fast
Speaker 1: it's happened. I mean, you know, just so y'all even
Speaker 1: understand the process of this ship, Like um, kids, he
Speaker 1: goes kids, He goes, I'm gonna flight. I'm gonna flight
Speaker 1: to Montreal. He hits me, Yo, I need a verse.
Speaker 1: Can you go to the studio right now? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't. This is feeling love. Yes, He's like I can.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hits me back, No, I need you to
Speaker 1: go to the studio. Let's mind you. The album is
Speaker 1: coming out in six seven eight hours. We're gonna keep going.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying coming down, like six seven hours.
Speaker 1: I'm about to do a show. I'm in Montreal. I
Speaker 1: got a book studio, book studio. Alright, cool, hold listen
Speaker 1: to this niger verse. Nigas you bust down a break Nigga.
Speaker 1: I am not too big con bent to you rappers, Nigga.
Speaker 1: I am more easy you trying your best to becoming nigga.
Speaker 1: She liked the bottles with bubbles in it by her
Speaker 1: Lau and other linen when there's other women were in
Speaker 1: love with winning. That's the new down the details designed
Speaker 1: out easily. They plays alone, hoping that I play a song.
Speaker 1: I love the trams, don't money along. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Kickcutty has been a genius right. In fact, he's been
Speaker 1: a person that you know ahead of his time that
Speaker 1: I love. Um. But what Kanye did for him is
Speaker 1: put him in the level with the whole rest of
Speaker 1: the world can see his genius for the first time.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the rollout the rollout. No no, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that you can actually see kid Cutty's genius now,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? Like this, this reminds
Speaker 1: me of graduation Kanye, and I am I off. What
Speaker 1: does remind your graduation? This the track? No, the whole album.
Speaker 1: Man is this calls listening? I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like old Kanye. I miss the old Kanye.
Speaker 1: This is old Kanye. No, no, no, let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. Right now. He is on a he is
Speaker 1: on a production wave. Everybody with him. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: Like I think everything you guys are doing right now,
Speaker 1: he's going on Now's album coming out on Friday for real?
Speaker 1: No way? What that sound like? All right? Yes? Bro,
Speaker 1: just putting on your phone. We will get the pro like, like, um,
Speaker 1: this isn't worth tak a little shot too? I think,
Speaker 1: come on there, because like we are celebrating. I'm taking
Speaker 1: the top of the motherfucking game. I can't mean imanna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Put what's up? Because you you
Speaker 1: alluded to it earlier. I was a little nervous when
Speaker 1: when when he did come back with that response, so
Speaker 1: fun Drake, Yeah, I gotta go back to So I
Speaker 1: was a little bit nervous. I'm saying, I'm your friend,
Speaker 1: I got, I got, you are my friend, you are
Speaker 1: you are a very good friend like that girl, because
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that. We should get to that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot. I gotta take a pepece too,
Speaker 1: because my vote was very tight. Let me just say something, Vault,
Speaker 1: thank you all for stepping it up. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: allow to slide. I ain't gonna lie. I came in here,
Speaker 1: I said, they are showing off and push your teeth
Speaker 1: and I'm w it. Yeah, this is the number one
Speaker 1: rapper in the motherfucking universe. He took out the Unicorn
Speaker 1: sot yo man, that was a shot. Kill myself on that.
Speaker 1: So what's up being in this game? Yes? And surviving
Speaker 1: this long? How difficult is that because you're in different genres.
Speaker 1: It's like I remember your first video wasn't your first video, grinding,
Speaker 1: Diane Martel, No, No, that wasn't your first video, but
Speaker 1: the major video two thousand too. So I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember me actually going to Virginia. Yeah, going to
Speaker 1: Virginia and me seeing yes, yes, pwee curR plan, Yes,
Speaker 1: it was late. I went to the projects too. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, these niggers got projects, and these nigs
Speaker 1: they got crackheads, they got fee this is the same
Speaker 1: exact thing. But see, I don't think nobody down south guy,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying I was a child back then,
Speaker 1: so in my opinion, New York hood. But that was
Speaker 1: what was happening. I thought everywhere else was kind of
Speaker 1: like nice and pretty, and when I went there, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, ship, everyone else is actually funked up.
Speaker 1: It's like j Quick said, every everywhere's like like Compton.
Speaker 1: That's what Quick, there you go. But one of the
Speaker 1: aspirations was was going to the grinding video and I'm
Speaker 1: just seeing that you guys just out there and just
Speaker 1: how was that introducing Virginia the other side, because like
Speaker 1: you said, we had mad skills, and mad skills was
Speaker 1: predominantly positive. We had it was a battle rapper. I
Speaker 1: mean battle rapper, but still like you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: positive rapper, right, but I'm saying it wasn't talking about
Speaker 1: like seeing and you know Hector shoot up from HEROD
Speaker 1: and seeing you know, you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 1: um Man, Virginia at that time, Virginia at that time
Speaker 1: was so crazy and it was you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was. It was a melting pot for like I
Speaker 1: felt like just for everything, like I felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: Virginia showed me all types of music. Um the New
Speaker 1: York influence was so heavy in Virginia, like super heavy
Speaker 1: at that time. Um you know, I was personally like
Speaker 1: that's what supported us. Like I couldn't get on the
Speaker 1: mix tape. I couldn't get on a Clue tape for nothing.
Speaker 1: And you know I knew Clue. I knew everybody back then,
Speaker 1: you know, through Rob Walker, you know, for it was
Speaker 1: you know, he was, he was hot at that time.
Speaker 1: But we couldn't get on mixtapes. We couldn't get on anything.
Speaker 1: So really all we had was Virginia and that video
Speaker 1: grinding to me, sort of gave it gave Virginia a
Speaker 1: face and a look and a an identity that um
Speaker 1: that the world you know, resonated with. It's so crazy
Speaker 1: because it was some little girls dancing in the video
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, doing like a step type dance
Speaker 1: or whatever, and um and I see these girls, you know,
Speaker 1: I see these girls sixteen years later in the mall
Speaker 1: or something like, Hey, I was in your video. You know,
Speaker 1: just super excited. But um, really, you just saw the
Speaker 1: impact of of having a rap identity for a place,
Speaker 1: a place like Virginia that was like, you know, they hit,
Speaker 1: they hit, you know. I mean that record was a
Speaker 1: big record, classic record, so it was you just saw
Speaker 1: the impact of it and and I appreciate it to
Speaker 1: this day. Like I'm I'm I'm waiting to go back home.
Speaker 1: I want to go back home now. You said platinum
Speaker 1: on the block with assist hits for real? Keep talking
Speaker 1: this music ship. Yeah, I mean it's self explanatory to me.
Speaker 1: But for the people who is not sulf explanatory to you,
Speaker 1: describe you saying you're being on the block for rell
Speaker 1: Less relax, you know. Um, that's just something that was
Speaker 1: a conversation that just always used to be had. Um Man,
Speaker 1: I remember being in the studio I used to go
Speaker 1: to the studio with for Real every single day. Every
Speaker 1: day in the mix of going to the studio, I'll
Speaker 1: be running in and off the studio and he come
Speaker 1: out and be like, no, I want you to hear this,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be there then I come back, Man,
Speaker 1: where would you at? He's a vibe guy. He's a vibe,
Speaker 1: he's an energy, he's a he's a he's an interpreter.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You know, he's a ill hook writer, but
Speaker 1: he will interpret your life in that hook into music. Right,
Speaker 1: So when you're not there, when you're not there, you know,
Speaker 1: you know physically, and he can't feel nothing from you.
Speaker 1: You're sucking up the record. I'm you know, I'm running
Speaker 1: in and out. I'm you know, going to make a
Speaker 1: whip work and what I'm saying and you know that
Speaker 1: that was just my energy. Platinum on a block with
Speaker 1: consistent hits. For real, keep talking. His music ship was
Speaker 1: that like you didn't want you didn't believe in music? Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't. To be honest with you, I didn't and
Speaker 1: I didn't. And it's weird. Now this videos that's going
Speaker 1: to like that line that said it's weird it's it's
Speaker 1: weird because you know, my life told you my brother
Speaker 1: is five years older than me. When rap hit, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Malice is five years older than that's not my twin
Speaker 1: twin my brother, my older brother do everything you say.
Speaker 1: So Like I remember being young and you know, rap hit.
Speaker 1: My first first album utfo Rock saying sister worked in
Speaker 1: the record store. You know, he used to write raps.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I never, I didn't write raps. I was
Speaker 1: what's that? What are you doing? Dummy? You know need
Speaker 1: pay me no attention. I rip up the rap book.
Speaker 1: You come fight, you know, But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: just awesome younger brother ship. That's just what I was into.
Speaker 1: That's what I did then, that's what he was into.
Speaker 1: By the time by the time I got into late
Speaker 1: middle school, junior high into high school, man, I was
Speaker 1: ashamed to tell people that I started rapping. That won't
Speaker 1: That was not the way to go. Like, you don't
Speaker 1: tell nobody what you mean wrapping, rapping? What you mean
Speaker 1: you're rapping anybody? Yeah, he get this motherfucking money period,
Speaker 1: Like that's the type of time they were on rap
Speaker 1: one wasn't really you know, and it's still it's Virginia.
Speaker 1: We still looked at we looked at Teddy as, yeah,
Speaker 1: you came from Halem. Yeah you know you came from
Speaker 1: the big city a Virginia board. Yeah for sure. But
Speaker 1: it's still like it still wasn't it wasn't our reach.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for real is who gave me?
Speaker 1: No bro, like this really happens, Like how how do
Speaker 1: y'all link? So he said, the little a mile away?
Speaker 1: You know, how do ya? Um? Because we were we
Speaker 1: had we had we had to meet your friend. We
Speaker 1: had to meet your friend my my actual best friend,
Speaker 1: and he um, he was interested in her and I
Speaker 1: was interested. Yeah. And then when when he used to
Speaker 1: be with all the time, so he would ask me,
Speaker 1: he asked me like, yo, you know you're dating or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I was like no, I like this's my home
Speaker 1: girl or whatever. And then when when they clicked up whatever,
Speaker 1: then he found out who my brother was. At this time,
Speaker 1: I'm not rhyming. They would all go to him Timberland,
Speaker 1: for real, all of them up down the beach. Rymy.
Speaker 1: They would go to the ocean front and wrap every weekend.
Speaker 1: When he just doesn't that's already a thing local, not
Speaker 1: getting popping. But it's a movement, it's a thing. And
Speaker 1: when did you hear the room for real actually writing shaker? Um? No,
Speaker 1: that was I know. I'm saying it started as a rumor.
Speaker 1: Then people found what I mean you know, uh I
Speaker 1: was there for that, you know, like yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it was early like scooters and bites like this ain't
Speaker 1: even cards level. This is like it's kids ship and
Speaker 1: you tell Riley asked for real, I'm they're getting ran
Speaker 1: off of the premises of future records, like why are
Speaker 1: we going? Why I'll come back over here. I guess
Speaker 1: this is way earlier. But you knew for Rell had
Speaker 1: the ability to do that because Telly Rowley is like,
Speaker 1: tell he's a big deal at that time, he's a
Speaker 1: big deal now he's still thank you, thank you for
Speaker 1: we can't forget. But what I'm saying is, but for real,
Speaker 1: is he approached to do this job or no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they had a um they had a talent show. Okay,
Speaker 1: they had a talent show and Teddy seemed that seen
Speaker 1: the greatness in him. Oh wow. And then that's when
Speaker 1: we got to start walking into walking into the studio
Speaker 1: instead of just sitting outside and seafood running us away.
Speaker 1: Y'all know seafood. We don't see her, y'all see y'allod
Speaker 1: saying yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's right there. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that the ship right there, that's not your shot.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this the people I've been having to
Speaker 1: piece so long, but that was so much for him.
Speaker 1: How let me do this? Because we vote? You got up,
Speaker 1: shout out vote vote. They said we gotta push your teeth,
Speaker 1: and they were. We got eighteen cameras pus your sun right,
Speaker 1: we got, we got, we got good ship happening. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I should I got a question. Se push
Speaker 1: it when y'all Okay, when the clips, yes, who made
Speaker 1: up to the name the clips, Um, we actually were
Speaker 1: fully clips clips, fully clips right clus to planting them. Well,
Speaker 1: because plant of them had full up clips. We said
Speaker 1: we're gonna pass on that because yeah, they definitely reversed.
Speaker 1: Um definitely definitely didn't want to uh didn't want to
Speaker 1: step on any toes with that, and it was just
Speaker 1: too close. So when the grinding beat came up, I
Speaker 1: know you guys thought that it was a crazy ass
Speaker 1: peat because I'm a DJ I get to I got
Speaker 1: to joint. Yeah, we dj. The reason why the record
Speaker 1: I think went because it was so different. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: as a DJ, I'm gonna tell you right now, the
Speaker 1: way the beat came in it was always off beat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we hated it. We hated and love the record
Speaker 1: at the same time. Listen, you can't cook. Damn. That
Speaker 1: was the fastest piss ever christ that already downloaded it
Speaker 1: when they remember when when that record was played with
Speaker 1: y'all think, I'm sorry, yo, um No, you know the
Speaker 1: actual the actual record grinding. Um man, that record I was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't at the studio for l was at the
Speaker 1: studio alone. He called me and said, Hey, if you
Speaker 1: do not get here, I'm going to give this record
Speaker 1: to jay Z and you better be here in fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: I swear to God. And that scared Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: don't like the thing about it is I'm very territorial.
Speaker 1: I hated it. Norri got nothing. I hated it like
Speaker 1: I'm very angry, got nothing, nothing, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love with super though, like that was Nori. I
Speaker 1: got that things that I couldn't think that I could do.
Speaker 1: I didn't want him to have to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: be honest. I think I had grind, so but grinding
Speaker 1: is such an awkward record. I just want to know.
Speaker 1: So he was like yo, he was like yo, get
Speaker 1: here now. He was like, and if you don't do it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it the whole. And I couldn't live
Speaker 1: with Whove having something that, you know that I thought
Speaker 1: that should have been for us. Um. Needless to say,
Speaker 1: I got over there and I was like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: this is crack, and he was like, no, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this is special. And he knew it was special,
Speaker 1: but he knew what he knew it's special. If bat
Speaker 1: that's probably the only record that I wrote three times.
Speaker 1: I don't write records three times, like i'd be you know, damn,
Speaker 1: that's not it. Damn, that's not it. M h okay,
Speaker 1: that's it, you know. But but um, and then when
Speaker 1: we we we did it. And at this time, mind you,
Speaker 1: Farrell is like lit. He's lit, you know, hook wise,
Speaker 1: he he's singing on every hook. Okay, boom, he's not
Speaker 1: singing on this hook. And I'm like, I'm I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you're not gonna like he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: it ain't no, it ain't that he I'm telling you
Speaker 1: you got the most special ship. And then like he
Speaker 1: just gave me his whole theory. Like man, y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: of my group, and you know, she hustled FaceTime and
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. This is this is
Speaker 1: a special moment. She hustle FaceTime, dream chancell what's up? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you listen. You know I know you know, I know. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: hey Man, love you, bro, Thank you appreciate that. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: you appreciate that. Bro, hey Man, Hello, all love my brother,
Speaker 1: got your mat Sushi finished? Alright, peeks, peaks, n makes more.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna last ye. I had a whole surprise.
Speaker 1: I had Jada kiss, I have off Daddy, and I
Speaker 1: totally forgot. I didn't answer none of them like I
Speaker 1: was supposed to, supposed to old call in. But I
Speaker 1: was just saying so much into this conversation. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: we didn't really need anything extra to to add on
Speaker 1: to this because because because that but that's what drink
Speaker 1: champions see push. I'm gonna just be honest with you.
Speaker 1: After people have ten years in this game, people write
Speaker 1: them off, and people say that they're washed up. People
Speaker 1: say that it's over for them, and people say that
Speaker 1: that they can no longer producing and do what they do.
Speaker 1: So that's not that's what we want to do. We
Speaker 1: wanted we wanted to have a platform where it's the
Speaker 1: exact opposite. You know what I'm saying. We're old niggas
Speaker 1: like me who forty years old. Put here, put that
Speaker 1: spray some jaffncy and in the air. Yeah, you need
Speaker 1: not you know I'm saying, when you can say you're listening,
Speaker 1: If you got ten years or more, this is when
Speaker 1: you come and you'll be celebrated, not when you tolerated,
Speaker 1: you celebrated. Where is the place that these brothers have
Speaker 1: ten years or more that that thelebrat of that. No,
Speaker 1: they put you in the washed up category. They tell
Speaker 1: you that it's over for you. And I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I wanted to break that barrier because I'm a hustler
Speaker 1: of all sorts. Yes, I've hustled. I've sold water to
Speaker 1: what else? Yes, you know what I mean, I've sold
Speaker 1: you know to people who sell Yeah, So I wanted
Speaker 1: to motherfuck make sure that we have a platform for
Speaker 1: people who's been here, whose season? But also understand the game,
Speaker 1: because here's a lot of us who have these same
Speaker 1: years that me and you have, but they don't understand
Speaker 1: the new generation. They don't want to understand the new generation.
Speaker 1: They don't even want to go to the clubs and
Speaker 1: box to it. I tell you, that's that's like I
Speaker 1: felt like, that's that's my calling in music right now.
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, you know, becoming a president of
Speaker 1: good music, man, you have to sort of be able
Speaker 1: to identify with what's going on. I was side, Um,
Speaker 1: when I think about everybody, when I think about everybody,
Speaker 1: who's first week, I'm gonna be honest, look at me.
Speaker 1: He did just think when when I when I when
Speaker 1: I think about when I think about all the greats
Speaker 1: and everybody that I loved the music and I loved
Speaker 1: and hip hop. You know I'm talking about from the
Speaker 1: Golden Area. I'm listening. I feel like their windows were
Speaker 1: so short because they didn't embrace what was next. They
Speaker 1: didn't do that. And and I'm talking about that mind you.
Speaker 1: I think that these guys are like, go god level
Speaker 1: m c's. But the one flaw that they had was
Speaker 1: they didn't say, hey, boom. They didn't identify. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that you gotta. We ain't chasing trends. I'm
Speaker 1: not chasing no ends. But it's sort of like with
Speaker 1: anything else. Man, if you get into the environment of it,
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to appreciate. You gotta be able
Speaker 1: to appreciate, like the energy that that you're feeling when
Speaker 1: you're in that mix. You have to like, Man, I
Speaker 1: just sit home in Virginia, watch your on TV raps
Speaker 1: or watch Rap City and be pissed or the box.
Speaker 1: I see you, listen, let me tell you something. I
Speaker 1: see you say that story, right, And I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you an example. I'm an offset your example was. It
Speaker 1: was the same thing when I when people seeing Players Club,
Speaker 1: people seeing Players Club in New York at the time,
Speaker 1: you don't go those strip clubs, right, So so Players
Speaker 1: Club to people in New York made no sense. But
Speaker 1: for a person that went and traveled, I was like,
Speaker 1: Players Club is the fucking if. People in my hood
Speaker 1: was like, what, like, we don't we don't spend on
Speaker 1: money in the strip clubs. That That's how it was
Speaker 1: back then, you know what I mean, That's how I
Speaker 1: used to look it. That's how I used to look
Speaker 1: at the Bay for music. I used to be pissed,
Speaker 1: how shouldn't come on they do a whole little run.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, I'm not trying to see none
Speaker 1: of this ship until I got in the rap game,
Speaker 1: getting a rap game, go to the Bay, and you realize, like,
Speaker 1: this is a whole culture, and this is a thing,
Speaker 1: and and before you know what, you're making the face
Speaker 1: and popping your colle and you you're having the greatest
Speaker 1: time in your life. That's how I look at the
Speaker 1: rap game. You're like, man, if you can get in
Speaker 1: the mix of it, when you you know, if you're
Speaker 1: still going outside, if you're still outside and you're still
Speaker 1: in the mix of it, and you're in the mix
Speaker 1: of the energy of whatever this culture is trapped music,
Speaker 1: you know, Southern, whatever the case may be. It's hard
Speaker 1: not to like it when you can see, when you
Speaker 1: see how people appreciate it. It's hard. Now. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna be your number one go to. You
Speaker 1: may look at it, you may look at it for
Speaker 1: something else. You know, it's fun as energy. You know,
Speaker 1: when I'm trying to be barred up, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to that. When I'm trying to have a great time parties,
Speaker 1: see the energy of people, I'm definitely going to that.
Speaker 1: You know, you just gotta be able to like differentiate.
Speaker 1: And I felt like all of a lot of the
Speaker 1: people who did not embrace that way, who were like
Speaker 1: supreme lyricists to me, that's why we can only talk
Speaker 1: about them for five four or five three to five years.
Speaker 1: And that's true. It's just like when I see, you know,
Speaker 1: when I see the females dancing get done, I said,
Speaker 1: this is nice. How can you know? And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't listen, I don't know a word, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm going when like, you gotta like that, you gotta
Speaker 1: like that. Gota like that. I just keeping the man
Speaker 1: I don't have You don't have to know the words,
Speaker 1: and you don't have to you don't have to know nothing.
Speaker 1: Music is universe. That's the one thing that's totally universal
Speaker 1: to me, as food and music. I mean, one time
Speaker 1: I was stuck in Russia. I tell the story all
Speaker 1: the time I was stuck in Russia and the guy,
Speaker 1: now when I was this is another time. I remember
Speaker 1: that time we went in Russia. They had the actually
Speaker 1: in Russia. We almost died. We almost died. They said,
Speaker 1: Russians against racism. If you were in a place where
Speaker 1: they gotta say they against racism, brother, you don't really
Speaker 1: belong brother. So but this is another time. I'm in
Speaker 1: there and I'm in the first class lounge and this
Speaker 1: guy you could tell he's not racist. This is maybe
Speaker 1: it's experience after you, so you can tell those guys
Speaker 1: all babies before you tell those guys not racist. Because
Speaker 1: he's just identified me and he's looking he's like, he's
Speaker 1: pointing at this food, like this ship is trash. I'm
Speaker 1: Russian and this is trash. So I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: try that, but I'm like this, but he's like, and
Speaker 1: I'm talking about we went through a hole like this
Speaker 1: is an hour and you don't know why. I m.
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is. And then that was
Speaker 1: food we bonded through. They know all they figured out.
Speaker 1: They said, oh ship, someone body told him. But you
Speaker 1: know it's just food and music, you know, a god
Speaker 1: breast in peace. Man. Yeah, man, that that that struck me.
Speaker 1: Especially the suicide thing is because um, check out your friends, man,
Speaker 1: yeah man, you know, um, yeah, that's kind of it's
Speaker 1: kind of weird when you see like I look at
Speaker 1: him as if almost he had everything, Yeah, everything everybody?
Speaker 1: So why and what did he hung himself? You know,
Speaker 1: it's good that you're talking about this, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and admit something now, like I'm just now
Speaker 1: understanding like, uh, mental health issues because of your brother. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: because you're you know, because him and any suicide things
Speaker 1: and things like that. But I'm just to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, like, uh, I didn't know that there was
Speaker 1: like a real thing. I didn't know. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: raised in a super like I'm raised in a super
Speaker 1: super black household, religious black religious, black religious black and
Speaker 1: just black Jesus everything that was black. But yo, and
Speaker 1: and you know, we use crazy so loosely. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, we we used when the person
Speaker 1: don't have nothing. So when a person accused the person
Speaker 1: of saying they're crazy and they have the world, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like totally different. We don't even we don't even
Speaker 1: it didn't even resonate for they went no one, no
Speaker 1: one actually no one to actually believe that, to tell
Speaker 1: you the truth. To listen, But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: you know understand that a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: us are raised that way, like you know, and you
Speaker 1: got to think about it, like and just think about
Speaker 1: our generation. Like, man, you know, I really knew my
Speaker 1: great grandmother who was like a real slave and like
Speaker 1: can tell me, like you know, can tell me like wow,
Speaker 1: stories lived to I don't even know how old she is.
Speaker 1: I don't know how old she was because she was
Speaker 1: a hundred and six for three years in my mind,
Speaker 1: you know. Like, but what I'm saying is I'm saying
Speaker 1: that to say I was raised like that because uh,
Speaker 1: they went through it all, so you know, crazy mental
Speaker 1: health it's like they see as ever so it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't really when it came to mental health.
Speaker 1: I was just like I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 1: And I definitely don't know what that's about for people
Speaker 1: who have, you know, wh who actually have like you know,
Speaker 1: what we think the things of life like money and
Speaker 1: things like that. Um, I'm just getting like hips to
Speaker 1: like things meltdown, Like what did you what did you
Speaker 1: feel like when you heard that? Like what do you
Speaker 1: mean Kanye? It was like, say Kanye had a meltdown,
Speaker 1: and um, you don't know him for that. You know
Speaker 1: him for being a genius. You know, you don't know
Speaker 1: him for genius is equivalent with crazy to be yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, but not having it together and you hear
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have it together for this moment what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, like like tour time and all that
Speaker 1: when he was I mean, you know, I just um,
Speaker 1: I just felt like you know, still, I don't equate that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't equating that to something being off. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like you men, you speaking because yeah, because I don't
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I don't look at things
Speaker 1: and I'm just now like when I tell you just
Speaker 1: now bro, like I'm just getting hip to the science, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And no mental instability with
Speaker 1: people who you know, all right, well what we think
Speaker 1: because people you think have it all your stability. You
Speaker 1: think of the guy that's on the corner, yeah you know,
Speaker 1: you know the person with yeah you don't think like that,
Speaker 1: but on the planet right right, all of that type
Speaker 1: of great which is which is goes back to um.
Speaker 1: As much as we work for money, like it's just
Speaker 1: there like you know, like I've had money, I lost it.
Speaker 1: I've had it, a loss of having lost it, and
Speaker 1: it really doesn't make me no never mind at this point,
Speaker 1: Like at this point, it's just like I'm I'm forty
Speaker 1: years old. I'll forty one in September six. So if
Speaker 1: you weigh out the options, I've kind of been more
Speaker 1: up this year one from on. I've been more up
Speaker 1: than I've been down by one year. Right, what is
Speaker 1: there really to complaining about? Right? But there's people who
Speaker 1: have it even more than me. And well, I saw
Speaker 1: a post of a friend of mine posted something today
Speaker 1: about Anthony boarding and they were talking about the chemicals
Speaker 1: in our brains, the serotonins, the things that make us
Speaker 1: feel good, which drugs. Drug addicts can understand this because
Speaker 1: when you pump drugs into her, he stopped doing because
Speaker 1: he was a coke addy. He stopped. He was heroin.
Speaker 1: I don't forgot about that. Yeah, Anthony in his early years,
Speaker 1: but he still got But if you think about it
Speaker 1: as an addicts, the fact that he drank continue to drink.
Speaker 1: But I mean whatever, that is what it is. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like he was an addict. So and
Speaker 1: then he the person that wrote this post that I'm
Speaker 1: talking about She's She was mentioning, how like people who
Speaker 1: have need these, you need to get these. These the
Speaker 1: drugs in our brain, They're real. These are the things
Speaker 1: that feed us. They give us the highs and the
Speaker 1: lowths in our minds, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: he was going on the road, he was going into
Speaker 1: different countries, going into these different places, and that was
Speaker 1: replacing drugs. Because that's what the reason why I bring
Speaker 1: that up is because that's what reminds me when I
Speaker 1: listened to ys album. I don't talk about his album.
Speaker 1: He talks about like killing people and he talks and
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't I thought as being an artistic
Speaker 1: until I like, I mean, I think it's still I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't take it still be an artistic No, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. I didn't take it that crazy.
Speaker 1: But where was you at? You getting these teams interviews?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you know, I mean listen, it
Speaker 1: was listen. I mean, we could talk on so many
Speaker 1: different levels when it came to that. Just um, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, let's just talk about the business. Like, man,
Speaker 1: we got a whole we got a whole by this time,
Speaker 1: we've got whole five albums that we have decided that
Speaker 1: we're putting out, so on and so forth. This is
Speaker 1: what we're doing. So he's obviously very calculated. Well, very
Speaker 1: we're on and we lit. I'm like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: my album's damn they're finished. If not finished, it's cracked. Boom.
Speaker 1: I'm happy everybody else Na's in the mixed boom and
Speaker 1: M he comes and he has a teams interview, and
Speaker 1: from that point on, I'm just like, this is the slavery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there's absolutely positively nothing else going to
Speaker 1: be louder than that. M And I was like then,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm first, there's no press that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm not gonna do any press because because
Speaker 1: that's gonna be that's gonna be the press. Um. And
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, that still, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the press for the remainder of it. You know. I
Speaker 1: just felt like it was so that bothered you though
Speaker 1: that that happened. Yeah, So as like business partners, I
Speaker 1: mean like that in business, I was my business mom
Speaker 1: was saying, Wow, I don't know how we're gonna move
Speaker 1: this like this, like, you know, because my thing is
Speaker 1: you know, thinks about it on the album as if
Speaker 1: his wife even Okay, listen, it was really a real
Speaker 1: it was a thing. So it's like, man, it's a
Speaker 1: real thing. So it's like at the same time business
Speaker 1: minded and thinking, it's like, man, I like like everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody needs to hold their own weight. It's likely boom,
Speaker 1: He's gonna produce it. That's cool. We get we get
Speaker 1: to get out here and run with the ball when
Speaker 1: it's our time to run with the ball. That's That's
Speaker 1: just how I feel like it should go. Well, he
Speaker 1: sort of took the ball away with that, so there's
Speaker 1: nowhere to run. And you know, I feel like at
Speaker 1: the same time when that happened, um, he took the ball,
Speaker 1: and then it got into like you know, it was him,
Speaker 1: it was him tweeting and talking, and it just got
Speaker 1: He became down on the Trump, right, he really became
Speaker 1: He really became vocal in regards. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say he's Trump, not in the presence of Trump, how Trump,
Speaker 1: how Trump does it? But you can never yourself right, right.
Speaker 1: You can text me, you can text me and say
Speaker 1: what's up, and I can text you and say what's up?
Speaker 1: And I could think you beefing, and you could think
Speaker 1: I'm saying what's up. It's like what you're saying. But
Speaker 1: you know, um, I just felt like, you know, he
Speaker 1: took the ball. He took the ball, and it was
Speaker 1: it was uneasy for me. It was a little bit
Speaker 1: uneasy for me because, like I said, I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, he produced it. We run with the ball,
Speaker 1: We do what we're supposed to do in respective veins,
Speaker 1: you know, in lanes and genres or whatever. But he
Speaker 1: took it man, and and and it's panned out. How
Speaker 1: was him and Tias record? Um? And like I want
Speaker 1: more question and I'll let you go him in Tias
Speaker 1: record because that was like to me, I had a record,
Speaker 1: Me and component has a record called the Argument. Right,
Speaker 1: that's the only record that's better than that record. It's right,
Speaker 1: it's but but it's called but it's basically the same
Speaker 1: as that record. When I got to your remember I
Speaker 1: took you with yours that I do remember, Yo, I
Speaker 1: still don't drive me up. But um, what was the
Speaker 1: saying that was into that argument argument? So that him
Speaker 1: and tas record that was also done in real time Okay,
Speaker 1: how you said, I think that was the most brilliant record.
Speaker 1: I mean the people because that we're just not ready
Speaker 1: to Um we're still in infant stages. You can't give
Speaker 1: a steak right now, right So I don't think the
Speaker 1: people was ready for that. But I think the concept
Speaker 1: was brilliant. Um were you there are part of that?
Speaker 1: I was. But some people might feel it was set
Speaker 1: up also, Well, I feel like it was set up.
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's okay, I mean they were arguing.
Speaker 1: I mean it was actually a debate on record. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's a genius way to defuse something so
Speaker 1: some one can say, no, bro, this is a way
Speaker 1: out of the situation, A genius way out of it.
Speaker 1: You don't get it. Yeah, I liked it. I thought,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if we like it or not, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm I'm playing the devil's advocate to that. I
Speaker 1: thought it should have made that. What do you think
Speaker 1: you enjoyed him scrapping the whole album? And yes, he
Speaker 1: scratches his own albums, Yeah he did. Actually I started
Speaker 1: off from over from TMZ. Why because um man, that
Speaker 1: guy really works off feeling and you know, he really
Speaker 1: works off feeling and it's always about taking it to
Speaker 1: the next level for him. Um. At the same time,
Speaker 1: he also it's like, okay, boom, TMZ happened. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna keep living in TMZ. We're gonna go to the
Speaker 1: next His mind is always you know, did he regret
Speaker 1: the TMZ or not at all? Uh. I don't think
Speaker 1: he regrets it. I feel like he I feel like
Speaker 1: he Uh. We've had conversations about messaging and things like that,
Speaker 1: and and how it was message which where it could
Speaker 1: have been better, and so on and so forth. But
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there's a bigger picture for him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of things got lost in uh, in the in
Speaker 1: the keywords you know what I'm saying, versus like there
Speaker 1: was a messaging that obviously to me it seemed like
Speaker 1: he miss messaged on. I felt like he had a
Speaker 1: valid idea that miss message. No no, no, Like you know,
Speaker 1: when we speak about it, when he's like, man, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's say like, damn, pushing on, I really
Speaker 1: do I want to. I want to learn. I feel
Speaker 1: like we all should be learning. How Matt became a
Speaker 1: billionaire instead of learning Kiss calling that you know Jenna
Speaker 1: Kiss was going on. You want to drink kids, make
Speaker 1: some you know the time you listen, you listen, We're
Speaker 1: here with push your team man, Kiss what out? No
Speaker 1: doubt you already know what it is. My brother pushed.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on that, congractulations on putting the grip on the
Speaker 1: Thank you seriously bringing that talk back to the real
Speaker 1: street general. Listen, you you heard yankers get the shout
Speaker 1: out on my album for that was you, That was
Speaker 1: for you? Your style that she you know it. We
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Bro, You're on fire. Just keep the gas lit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Thank you, sir to the
Speaker 1: whole good music and putting up great projects. Looking forward
Speaker 1: to that NAS album. Yes, sir, love big for the culture,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, thank you, Thank you Kiss?
Speaker 1: Oh what's this ship? Her? You USh us and you
Speaker 1: get that love Listen. I'm just I just totally forgot.
Speaker 1: I had hit everybody in the industry to say the
Speaker 1: call in and then I totally got so much into
Speaker 1: a conversation I answered the phone for no one. Wow. So,
Speaker 1: but but how do you feel about like getting that
Speaker 1: type of love like I could, I could hit anybody,
Speaker 1: and then everybody wants to call in listen, you know,
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it and and for real, for real,
Speaker 1: these are like all people I respect and Nipsey Hustle.
Speaker 1: This is the people who did get through Nipsey Hustle.
Speaker 1: Totally respect Nipsey for for sure. Jada Kiss Man, I was,
Speaker 1: I was riding off of State University myself, going to
Speaker 1: buy mixed tapes from the bootlegger. The clue is shouting
Speaker 1: out that he's gonna beat up when he see him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like black man to hear
Speaker 1: the beginning of the clue tape and the end of
Speaker 1: the clue tape with the locks, like it's um, you
Speaker 1: know man, it just for real, It says a lot.
Speaker 1: It says a lot that I'm even um, it affects
Speaker 1: me a lot that I even get to kick it
Speaker 1: with these guys like this that I even you know,
Speaker 1: have the relationship and the report that I have with
Speaker 1: the Jada Kiss Fabulous and Noriega. But you realize your
Speaker 1: legend as well, yeah, for sure for sure. Like I'm like, like, man,
Speaker 1: this is it's crazy. This is my peer group. But
Speaker 1: this is my peer group before I was a peer
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm like that ship like and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about still great, all the ones, all the ones
Speaker 1: that were great to me then and it's still great
Speaker 1: to me now. Still you know, still still getting money,
Speaker 1: Still gotta listen to be to be motivated. You gotta
Speaker 1: still get money. But let me just say something, because
Speaker 1: if you're great, ain't still getting money nowadays? You'll be
Speaker 1: looking at right. No, No, You're still great, but be clear,
Speaker 1: you gotta still getting listen. You have to be You
Speaker 1: gotta still get type of away. You have to some
Speaker 1: type of way sells soaps listening listen. Man, that's what
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, that's what the game is.
Speaker 1: That's what rappid is for me. It's um, it's still
Speaker 1: the youngest genre right what were like forty four years
Speaker 1: in and like like it's good for us to be
Speaker 1: able to sit here and be like, man, I'm at
Speaker 1: drink Champs, like I know, like I know, there's like
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty probably a month that just comes
Speaker 1: to this guy. What's your first sign? The designer? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so you get you get the job of good music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then they say you gotta produce? Are you just
Speaker 1: you just on on my space? But no, no, no,
Speaker 1: what happens is, um see a lot of ship has
Speaker 1: happened with a good involving new ship, like if we
Speaker 1: take it all the way back to my Name is
Speaker 1: my Name? Um that album came out two thousand thirteen,
Speaker 1: and making that album, and making that album, I came
Speaker 1: under a lot of fire for having a song called
Speaker 1: Pain with Future on it. You know, I go to
Speaker 1: the studio, you know, me and Yale be together for
Speaker 1: a while. I go, you know, we leave, I go home,
Speaker 1: wom come back. The first question he asked, what's hot?
Speaker 1: I'd be like, future is to god? What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? He was like, what's that? You know? You
Speaker 1: know what you mean? You play it? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He gets into it. Oh man, get him
Speaker 1: up here, futures get on pain. That's how it goes.
Speaker 1: You know, people killing me? What you mean? You rapp?
Speaker 1: Why you why you got? I'm like, man, this is
Speaker 1: what's hot? What you're talking about? This? He's crazy me.
Speaker 1: I think I'm using them in a in a way
Speaker 1: that's not compromising myself. You know, I feel like we
Speaker 1: were Yeah, you know and we found a way to
Speaker 1: make it, to make a marriage with it, paying one
Speaker 1: of my favorite records, you know, the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: he may ask me, yo, what's what's what's what's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm like, what you mean? What's going on? Chief Keith
Speaker 1: was going on? You bugging like he from Chicago? What
Speaker 1: you mean? Yeah? So you know, what's that? Play that boom?
Speaker 1: I like that kid, young child, Okay, boom, let me
Speaker 1: remix that. All right, we do the remix boom. You know,
Speaker 1: And you found Designer the same way, the same way
Speaker 1: Designer was on Like I was heavily into future, like
Speaker 1: you know, just as an artist, like man, he's dope
Speaker 1: with a moon. And I heard him. I heard Designer,
Speaker 1: I want to say, through SoundCloud maybe and and so
Speaker 1: my manager was all go into him, and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you heard that New Future. I was just playing who's
Speaker 1: your manager, Stephen Victor? So I was like, yo, um,
Speaker 1: Stephen Victor. He always liked his name, said he's like
Speaker 1: first and last. You don't so, you know, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know the New Future, New Future? Crazy? He like what?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, I played it and I
Speaker 1: played Designer and he was like, man, this is fine.
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, kid, nat design, he this this
Speaker 1: is the next wave. Watch him talking back and forth.
Speaker 1: By that time, and rich A he went out. I
Speaker 1: think he probably went to l A played him for
Speaker 1: you a. Um also yeah, okay, um by this time
Speaker 1: it was other A and rs around playing pat He
Speaker 1: was around during that time as well. Yeah, and he uh,
Speaker 1: he's he's a good now but but he uh he
Speaker 1: played it as well. And yeah, he was like okay,
Speaker 1: go find him and went back to Brooklyn. Saw that
Speaker 1: he had other you know, other characters, you know, design
Speaker 1: and probably like eighteens time, so you know, um it's
Speaker 1: like eighteen and and just had you know, just had
Speaker 1: different different colors with him, different energy, different colors, and
Speaker 1: and uh ended up on apolo album from you know,
Speaker 1: from Panda, Yeah Panda was that pandas like fourteen sixteen
Speaker 1: million something like that. Timmy turn about two Yeah you
Speaker 1: know I'm still working. Yeah all right, so um does
Speaker 1: definitely come in three's Well that's what they say. I said.
Speaker 1: I heard you say, yeah, no, no, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: the same. I know it's the same. Yeah, would you
Speaker 1: reiterate this recently? And I'm just like I'm saying that
Speaker 1: because there's three people involved in the Okay, how appropriate? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm now valet. Let's in this with this. Let's
Speaker 1: go man, let's keep talking about Okay, alright, cool because
Speaker 1: you know, you know Mr Leonard, they gotta because you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna do burn. Mr lea hair like hair
Speaker 1: on his arm, just burning. Mr. He keeps asking to
Speaker 1: be on my losing ship. Man, I'm so tired. Let
Speaker 1: me just tell your something. You got one stellar. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I'm tiring. I'm gonna tire to you.
Speaker 1: I'm driving around. Mr. Leave me. This is your album,
Speaker 1: he says. He says, no jury are But I'm the
Speaker 1: richest nigga in the head. You think he talks about me?
Speaker 1: Be I looked at M. Leon I'm saying, you gotta last.
Speaker 1: It's the studio whatever, it's in my mind. It just
Speaker 1: you know. Mr. Lee is a funny. So listen and listen. Um.
Speaker 1: I gonna be honest, Mr. Lee. Only your friends, your
Speaker 1: rapper friends are drug dealers. You got me kids, and
Speaker 1: I think you got Jesus Like, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Defence is watching somebody's definitely why you know you know,
Speaker 1: but all right, let me do me just take it
Speaker 1: back for one second, puestion Thet'll take it back because
Speaker 1: you see what happened. I mean, in the public conception
Speaker 1: for a while, Meek was finished right in the public conception,
Speaker 1: not to say he was financially waht fun, but in
Speaker 1: the public conception for for a long time after back
Speaker 1: to back, right, people, boy, it was back to back
Speaker 1: even bad nig She got nominated for Grammy push backs,
Speaker 1: which means nothing to me. But go ahead, I've never
Speaker 1: got nominated. I've got nominated. It didn't even see me
Speaker 1: my passes, I said, because I'm not gonna never very ship. Nah,
Speaker 1: probably let part of them go by the south. But
Speaker 1: um so now you're back to back nominated, right this
Speaker 1: nigga drops doopy freestyle. You're thinking that it can this
Speaker 1: can be the same, or you're saying, nah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: reevaluate this situation. You knew because you knew about them,
Speaker 1: you knew you probably investigators and ship four days? Did
Speaker 1: you have private kid information? We never got to that.
Speaker 1: How did you get that? Wow? Man? People are like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't understand. You know, people are
Speaker 1: just people are what people are, disloyal, just loyal or disloyal. Disloyal, disloyal.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, you know, I don't. That's it.
Speaker 1: What's just saying it was information came through disloyal people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't mind sound man, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: to your benefits. So you just held it, you just
Speaker 1: you're just like, that's all I'm my holdest for the
Speaker 1: right time. That's a man, that's all mandamne. So for
Speaker 1: the record, it's over, though, it is over as far
Speaker 1: as I know, it's it's over. Prince the No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I haven't. But you know he, like I said, he
Speaker 1: talked to my management and you know everything. It was cool.
Speaker 1: It was done. It was cool. Now did you think
Speaker 1: you went too far? No? No, no, I don't believe
Speaker 1: in too far, okay, especially after mentioned it. Never there's
Speaker 1: no such thing, no such thing. So now moving forward, right,
Speaker 1: everybody says it's over. I got the album of the year,
Speaker 1: they got the album. Yeah, that's it. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: going Because you did you did say you saw a
Speaker 1: baby in the elevator and Beverly Hill, I did, man,
Speaker 1: you did you did see baby? And the elevator, Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: It's the four Seasons. I feel like it's four seasons?
Speaker 1: Yeah close? Is it miss the hotel? No, you know,
Speaker 1: one of those types. Okay, I'm involved. Okay, So now
Speaker 1: what happens if you're at four seasons? Now? Wald Off?
Speaker 1: Very nice? What happens in there at the wall though? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Super nice, super nice. Goat. You don't even gotta walk in.
Speaker 1: You can smell it. That's money in there. But you
Speaker 1: remember we jogged like I was like, I said that
Speaker 1: the war Dolf is right there. How you know, smell
Speaker 1: that ship. We were a mile away. Smell man. So
Speaker 1: you're at the war Dolf, Drake Walters, right, you're in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happens? What do you mean what happening? I'm asking you?
Speaker 1: Walk in the elevator, Drake Warter? So, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, Like what is it to talk about? I mean,
Speaker 1: we never really had We've never had conversations. We never
Speaker 1: not an elevator. That's like two kids. It's anywhere, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter and anywhere, you know, it's just what it is.
Speaker 1: Unless something happens. Something happens. It's what I'm just saying. Like,
Speaker 1: if he said, y'all want to high let you be immediate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you listen. You know, if he can say you
Speaker 1: want dollars, probably just talk right. What I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: let's most y'all in. Yeah, boy, bower what is it
Speaker 1: called bower? Steakhouse? Right boy, steakhouse? Right? Line richies right here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: right right there. You gotta throw line in there somehow,
Speaker 1: somehow you got throw line up because he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's mixed. You got thro all the minute, So line
Speaker 1: is in the middle to drink. Still know, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you gotta leave line with because no one wants to
Speaker 1: fight in from the mine. Right. Let me cool. You're
Speaker 1: walking on your point. You don't know your point yet.
Speaker 1: You walk in the restaurant, right, trait is on the
Speaker 1: other side. Right, you're on the other side. Right, it's
Speaker 1: chuck man Jo. Do y'all speak, Do y'all give them?
Speaker 1: You know, it's a universal thing. If you're black, when
Speaker 1: she's a black person, do you give the head nods? No? Head, No,
Speaker 1: I don't got much to talk about, man, I don't
Speaker 1: have nothing but a head. No it's like university like you,
Speaker 1: I could give a nigga scenarios. It's just black. I'm
Speaker 1: fine with I think it's gonna happen right now. Y'all
Speaker 1: got this. I don't know. You know, when you see
Speaker 1: another black man, do you keep him the head nod
Speaker 1: if you see him like this a my name? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I'm cool, I'm good. I
Speaker 1: know a head not as a fellow black man in
Speaker 1: the room. You know, don't do this minimum every the
Speaker 1: head up, you know, especially when you're in the camp.
Speaker 1: You just always you see another black name like saying,
Speaker 1: he don't even get that. I'm cool. Like I listened,
Speaker 1: bro listening work. I want to thank you for coming out,
Speaker 1: hanging out with the drink chance being here with us.
Speaker 1: We've been We've been waiting for you for so long,
Speaker 1: and not because of this negative thing, because for the
Speaker 1: positive thing from the beginning, Because people want to we
Speaker 1: want to praise our legends. We want to praise people
Speaker 1: while they head. We won't give the people their flowers
Speaker 1: where they can smell them. They treat when they can
Speaker 1: hell them. They thought's where they can think them when
Speaker 1: they drinks, where they can drink them. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because so many people want to praise the person.
Speaker 1: They want to say, this guy is the guy when
Speaker 1: he's on and this guy na, But how about the
Speaker 1: people when they are alive? That's what we want to do.
Speaker 1: And I realized there's no platform for that. I realized that,
Speaker 1: And this is the reason why me and my partner
Speaker 1: DJ from we got together and we said, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get people, these people that got ten years or more,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna sit there and we're gonna celebrate them,
Speaker 1: and especially people and and and most of the time
Speaker 1: when they got ten years and more, it's not people
Speaker 1: that they quote unquote say it's relevant. Right, So when
Speaker 1: we got people that we can praise ten years and
Speaker 1: more and that's relevant, it's it's a plus on a
Speaker 1: plus on a plus. So we won't like to coming
Speaker 1: because it's hard to fucking be ten years and relevant anyway.
Speaker 1: So God damn it, thank you for coming here. And
Speaker 1: hold us, let me take a picture of me, do
Speaker 1: it man, hold on? Quiet us? Then this show pay
Speaker 1: how mus in the rear? One hot one? You don't
Speaker 1: want to feel one? He got his show. They always
Speaker 1: sided by my presence, act right, I'm always being president.
Speaker 1: Game in the show and he showed the Bendy shows
Speaker 1: Bendy show him that, he showed he shot show holding
Speaker 1: guns with guns. I used to leave back all the
Speaker 1: way yep, but my son's making us out. This is
Speaker 1: stecking what they're thinking. Movolulu work Now now you think
Speaker 1: he kingpin shuring front clap niggers. That's the end of storm.
Speaker 1: What told the soldiers hold the work? Just another second
Speaker 1: for me? I'm street low when I'm firing. See you
Speaker 1: ps heard that day was hot and he shown pay
Speaker 1: how much in the real one? Hot one? You don't
Speaker 1: want to feel one? He got this show. They always
Speaker 1: hided by my presence act right, I'm always being president.
Speaker 1: He gave in the show and he showed him Bendy show,
Speaker 1: Bendy showed him. Bendy shown he got in. They shown
Speaker 1: Bendy showed them Baby shown, Bendy showed him, Baby showed
Speaker 1: he got in. He show band again again. They call
Speaker 1: a podcast poppy niggas just kicking goes. Don't see they're
Speaker 1: trying to copy comings in the change us down wrists
Speaker 1: and you ain't never seen ship like this? What tell
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Speaker 1: when this ship dropped home came into show cap ye
Speaker 1: out on the late night. I'm to play fight see
Speaker 1: five break night this live, but watch just like a
Speaker 1: breaking late and you canna get it right on your
Speaker 1: great side. Uh So tell me something I don't know.
Speaker 1: Fifty dollar pizza when I'm eating it? So ho I
Speaker 1: heard that you went love with the Coke co something
Speaker 1: your nose hitting him, dance on the phone, hate me
Speaker 1: to hate me? What should I do? Keep getting money?
Speaker 1: It's funny, y'all, was just like you. Super Bowl Sunday
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Speaker 1: to relax. Oh, tell me something about Joe know what?
Speaker 1: Tell me something. I don't know what. Tell me something
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like when this ship drops home came
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Speaker 1: Tell me something I don't know what. Tell me something
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Speaker 1: into Joke Car