WEBVTT - Miss Friend to Die For

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<v Speaker 1>Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Then we came

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<v Speaker 1>back around again, we did was it originally titled Friend

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<v Speaker 1>to Die For? Or Death of a Cheerleader?

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<v Speaker 2>It was originally titled a friends Really it was that

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<v Speaker 2>was the opposite. And then I think, when I want,

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<v Speaker 2>I may be wrong about this, but I think when Lifetime,

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<v Speaker 2>when it aired on Lifetime, they renamed it Death of

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<v Speaker 2>a Cheerleader.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Because what I watched last night had all the original

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<v Speaker 2>credits and it was a front to Die For. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say that it's a really good little movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is, And there's so many talented people. And

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<v Speaker 2>now when they make TV movies, because they're so cheap

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<v Speaker 2>about it, they like barely have any supporting characters. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just like the two leads and then like barely they

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<v Speaker 2>barely give anyone else any kind of arcs or development.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a cast of characters who were all

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and talented and had dialogue and had like you

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<v Speaker 2>cared about them. And it was shot in la and shot.

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<v Speaker 1>It never happens, wes.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know, it never happened. So it was so

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<v Speaker 2>nice to watch it and be like Wow, this was

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<v Speaker 2>this really good little movie, and you were you were

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<v Speaker 2>actually It's it's interesting because you were actually you were

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<v Speaker 2>actually likable too. I feel like your character wasn't one dimensional,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just like just the bitchy girl. Like your character

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<v Speaker 2>was really likable. And then my character, who was actually

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<v Speaker 2>a murderer, she was likable too. Like there was like

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<v Speaker 2>you rooted for kind of both of them in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you and I could not be like

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<v Speaker 1>we have that quality. I've never had thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never played somewhat. I've never played the villain. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was the murderer, but she still wasn't the villain.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird would be a likable villain. Yeah, I was likable, bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So were you still doing nine O two one zero?

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<v Speaker 2>When we did it was because I think I was

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<v Speaker 2>just finished with life goes on. I think life goes on,

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<v Speaker 2>it just canceld.

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<v Speaker 1>So we started in nineteen ninety, right, We started in

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine and ended in and we ended in ninety three.

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<v Speaker 2>We were eighty nine to ninety three.

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<v Speaker 1>In ninety three, ninety four, Yeah, okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say it was ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Four Okay, so like was on had just gotten canceled,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm playing a killer, and I'm I'm in a dark

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<v Speaker 2>place when I did that movie. Just like like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I was very methody, I was dark, I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was this, I was this sad little person when I

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<v Speaker 2>did that movie. So all of that every time I

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<v Speaker 2>had to cry, like all that stuff like easy peasy,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was. I was so devastated. My whole life

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<v Speaker 2>was just the rug was just taken out from under me.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when they can people don't know this, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they do. It's your family. I mean, when you do

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<v Speaker 2>a series for four years, that is your family, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when the network just decides to cancel it, like

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<v Speaker 2>they're like okay, you can't see your family anymore. Your

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<v Speaker 2>family's disbanded, and it's so devastating. So I know I

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<v Speaker 2>was carrying all that into that movie that we did,

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<v Speaker 2>into A Friend to Die for.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I got to say, I never knew that because

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<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking I was scared to see you because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, we did Troop Beverly Hills, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were the cool girls and they had their whole group,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were always nice to me. But you were

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<v Speaker 1>still with that group, and I was like, what's it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like? And then when you saw me,

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<v Speaker 1>you were really nice to me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like we were equals now, and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt better. So yeah, I never saw any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm so glad because I also was reading I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I was also reading the Diarrheaman Frank, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was getting me really dark too, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was in just a really dark place.

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<v Speaker 1>And chopping up cucumbers, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, randomly the knife in the car, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually what's funny is you know, now as an adult,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would research the true story that we that

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<v Speaker 2>we made. I mean, it's a true story, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't at the time, so I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>if there just was a knife in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you that because I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought to do that. Like both girls were the real girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never even thought like, and they didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>encourage us, like, hey, girls, you might want to like

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<v Speaker 1>do some research. We have some material nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, nothing, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a fictionalized story, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's crazy because I think the girl I played

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<v Speaker 2>served seven years in Juvenile and then was released, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember thinking knowing that there was that I

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<v Speaker 2>was playing a real person, and knowing that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to portray her as someone who made a horrible mistake

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to, you know, being being calculated and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that. And I definitely wanted to portray her as

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<v Speaker 2>someone who was worthy of compassion. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like my driving force, I think. But yeah, no, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>didn't research any of the real stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Oh my gosh. And all the friends.

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<v Speaker 1>The friends were incredible, like Marle, Carlie Shelton, who else,

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<v Speaker 1>Like every time I watch I see someone new, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you.

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<v Speaker 3>Were in it. I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And they all had they all had lines, and they

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<v Speaker 2>all had like you all knew, you knew who they

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<v Speaker 2>all were. Like TV movies aren't like that anymore. They

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<v Speaker 2>just really aren't. They're just so bare bones now. And

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<v Speaker 2>that movie was full and yeah, I actually like I

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<v Speaker 2>watched it last night and I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a good little movie. And we are we were so cute,

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<v Speaker 2>we were so young, we were so little. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm seventeen in the movie. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>daughter who's seventeen right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, You're like, don't do this, don't do this, don't

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<v Speaker 1>kill the popular girl.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's a move, it's a bad move.

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<v Speaker 3>How old is your old toy?

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen? Really, my aldes at sudden is seventeen?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he senior?

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<v Speaker 1>He is a sixteen year old daughter?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Wow, we're going through the college application

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<v Speaker 2>circus right now and it's consuming me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it overwhelms me. I'm out. It was never my

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<v Speaker 1>cham I'm just like, ask your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's no, it's weird to think that. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was watching the last like, I'm like, that

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<v Speaker 2>is the same age as my daughter now, And it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make me feel old. It's just like wow, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what a legacy doing this. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>doing this for decades, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, forty over forty years?

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<v Speaker 1>What you look so young? And you say the number

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like I know, I know, but so do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's also why when people meet us in person,

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<v Speaker 2>they have no idea where where to put us in

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<v Speaker 2>their mind, like we're either ten or we're twenty or what.

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<v Speaker 2>We're definitely not our age, Like it definitely is not.

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<v Speaker 1>That thank goodness, Thank goodness. Okay, so friend to we

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<v Speaker 1>had that experience and then they made the remake, Oh right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>A friend and die for Yes, yes, yes, yes did

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<v Speaker 1>they I think they called it a death of a

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleader they did this time, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. And I played an FBI agent, So

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<v Speaker 2>I did like you did, re sints you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was. I was a little sad though that

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<v Speaker 1>I was not contacted.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, toy. I had nothing to do with it

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<v Speaker 2>other than I showed up for my three scenes. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not produce it, because had I produced it, we

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<v Speaker 2>would have called you my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when you do O g things, people want O

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<v Speaker 1>GPS and that would be you and me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. No, You're You're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I heard that it was coming out, I

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<v Speaker 1>even put a picture of you and I like our

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<v Speaker 1>death scene on my feet and my Instagram like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>look what's coming thinking that the.

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<v Speaker 2>Publicity shot up us like holding the night one. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the funniest picture and.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually on all fours looking up your you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, and I'm very casual about it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a knife and I'm holding it over you.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way that scene actually ended up in the

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<v Speaker 2>movie is it's very blurry and you really don't see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. I didn't remember that until I rewatched

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<v Speaker 2>it and I was like, oh, yeah, you really don't see

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<v Speaker 2>the murder. It's very impressionistic.

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<v Speaker 1>You just hear I am a horrible screamer, not a

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<v Speaker 1>good love horror films, not a good horror movie screamer.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can hear my life castle he sounds okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like I get back in the car and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, actually, my favorite part of the whole movie,

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<v Speaker 2>which feels very out of it's like when it's on

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<v Speaker 2>my face. It's actually before I come and stab you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it keeps the frame keeps going like this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like on my face. And then I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was wondering, like what was going through my

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<v Speaker 2>head when I was filming that, like about to kill someone, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>What is that feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then I'm sure we did that because

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<v Speaker 2>it's the city, you know, it's the car. So they're like, okay, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>we got that. Now you've just killed her. Okay. Action,

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<v Speaker 2>So then there's like the post killing face, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, it's crazy what we do. It's we

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<v Speaker 2>have the weirdest jobs on the planet. It's crazy. That's

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<v Speaker 2>actually something I think about this a lot, because I

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<v Speaker 2>go to extremes very quickly in my real life, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I do it with my children. I'm very cautious in whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go to like worst case scenarios like that

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<v Speaker 2>is my like gohoji, I don't. I'm not modulated in

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<v Speaker 2>any way, and I'm married to someone from Montana who's

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<v Speaker 2>very calm, so drives them crazy. But I really think

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<v Speaker 2>it's because of all roles we've played, like all the

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<v Speaker 2>parts I've played like I've been kidnapped, I've been stabbed,

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<v Speaker 2>I have stabbed like I I've done such extreme I've

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<v Speaker 2>been taken hostage. So I'm not nor My reactions to

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<v Speaker 2>things aren't normal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use that now on My ex husband

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<v Speaker 1>used to be like, why do you act like this

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<v Speaker 1>like you always think the worst is gonna happen? That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>because hello.

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<v Speaker 2>It does and very real like for for reels, put

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves in that position in order to tray the emotion

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<v Speaker 2>that the convincing emotion that we need to give to people.

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<v Speaker 2>So those so all those triggers did y'all all in there?

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<v Speaker 2>So all it takes is for someone to press a

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<v Speaker 2>button and I'm like, you know, I go crazy because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I know what it feels like to pretend

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<v Speaker 2>get protected.

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<v Speaker 4>Such a valid point I might have understand.

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<v Speaker 3>But in therapy a lot too.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you start seeing a therapist as a kid, like

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<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills people, the people who have money. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't start seeing a therapist until uh twenty probably twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and boy, was at a revelation.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, really, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Here all my suitcases full of sorrows and stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna put them right here and I'm open them

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<v Speaker 2>up and let's take it out. And it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like God, bless this amazing woman, Beth, God bless Beth.

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<v Speaker 2>She just sat there and listened because I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of stuff to unload here. And then

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<v Speaker 2>once you know, once that like big like wasn then

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<v Speaker 2>like now it can be normal, it can be kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a just a session. But before it was

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<v Speaker 2>like I had never seen a therapist and I've been

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<v Speaker 2>an actress since I was seven years old. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I got some stuff to talk about, and now it's reasonable,

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<v Speaker 2>But before it was just like I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 2>where my car was parked after a session beginning, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh. Like also, my parents split up when

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing Life Goes On when I was fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>My sister died when I was old. Was I twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, twenty two, so like there was so much

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<v Speaker 2>life stuff and then there was all this child actor

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<v Speaker 2>shit r that I had to talk about. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's been a journey. Thank God for Beth and

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<v Speaker 2>my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to keep working. You couldn't even process like

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<v Speaker 1>a normal child, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. You know it's interesting is when my parents split

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<v Speaker 2>up and I was doing Life goes On, I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>channeled everything into my character because I played a girl

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<v Speaker 2>g all who like to slam the doors, She like

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<v Speaker 2>to like to yell sometimes. So I just put that

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<v Speaker 2>all into my work. And I actually like and pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much every TV movie I've ever done, I've had to

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<v Speaker 2>cry a bunch so I get it out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I use my job in that way.

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<v Speaker 3>My factor's version yeah, we're all a little method.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's true, it's true. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>But the most interesting actors are people who've been through stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't been through stuff, you're not an interesting actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Patty Lapone told me that, So it's real.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen Agatha all along?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter's been watching it and she's like, my daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>Maggie cannot believe that I am friends with Patty. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like friends with her, Like she's like my second mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she's actually going to New York this weekend and

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<v Speaker 2>we're staying with her. And Maggie's so excited.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, she sees her in a new light now

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<v Speaker 3>totally does.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And like Patty, she's seventy I think she's seventy

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<v Speaker 4>six years old and her corner ye's on fire, on fire,

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<v Speaker 4>And Matty's like, I can't believe you know Patty the poem.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, I know, Patty, that's crazy. I who

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<v Speaker 3>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have they watched Lights Goes On?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I have them on VHS and I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a VHS, so my.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad doesn't stream anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't what it doesn't stream because is that possible?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was told they had some weird like music

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<v Speaker 2>rights issues, so they couldn't sell it into syndication or stream.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, my kids haven't seen it. But I have

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<v Speaker 2>a big box of VHS tapes that my father recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd like play and record every Sunday night to record

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<v Speaker 2>the episode, and then he would title the tapes whatever

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<v Speaker 2>he thought the episode was. It's like quirky Dances or uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't even like Tyler Tyler Benchfield got like killed

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<v Speaker 2>in a car accident. And he's like, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>call it Tyler. He's like Tommy dies Chad gets aids

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<v Speaker 2>like it's just like the craziest titles and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>my dad like conflating their real names, and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's the funniest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, we were just transferred over right, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a place must be ice.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I just haven't done it yet. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to because they're pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh such, and I got them.

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<v Speaker 1>Allow that was like my childhood show. Oh everybody, everybody, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was a pretty massive experience for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to say that I peaked at thirteen, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's I don't think I'll ever be honest shore like

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<v Speaker 2>that again. It was amazing. I mean, like, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was cool to be cast in New York. But for

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<v Speaker 2>as successful as that show is and how amazing that

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<v Speaker 2>show is, nothing holds a candle to Life goes On.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing can compete in my in my mind because that

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<v Speaker 2>was just a singular experience. And Chris Burke, who played Quirky,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely changed my life for the better. He made me

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<v Speaker 2>such a better person. And I remember when I auditioned

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<v Speaker 2>for Life Goes On. I asked the casting director in

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<v Speaker 2>the first audition, I'm like, so the person who's played

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<v Speaker 2>in Quirky, is he really going to have Down syndrome?

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<v Speaker 2>And she looked at me and she's like, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>is that really something? You can act like you have

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<v Speaker 2>Down syndrome or you don't. And he was the first

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<v Speaker 2>person I ever spent any time with who had Down

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<v Speaker 2>syndrome or anything like that and change my life. And he's,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, he's doing well. He's he's still you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he lives in a in like a group home,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's got his family around him. And I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to him. I talked to him probably a couple times

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<v Speaker 2>a year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love hearing that that you stay in touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah for our generation that that show like changed

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<v Speaker 1>our generation, But so did.

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<v Speaker 2>I know two one Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, like, it's hard to look at it that way

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<v Speaker 1>when it's your show. It is you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I hear you and you probably hear me, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>But your show was so gutsy. It was gutsy in

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<v Speaker 2>so many ways as well, but it was also.

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<v Speaker 1>Two kids, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were really lucky, Like how who gets to

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<v Speaker 2>do that? Who gets to do that? What a gift?

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<v Speaker 1>A moment in time that never be replicated. Really, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different time of television making.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually everybody told me, everybody told me after forty

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<v Speaker 2>everything changes in the business, and I was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>that won't be that won't be my experience, and it

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<v Speaker 2>definitely does change. We also had the Lovely Pandemic, so

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<v Speaker 2>that changed a lot of things too. I actually ended

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<v Speaker 2>up staying home for like really all of it and

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<v Speaker 2>realized how much my kids needed me. So I told

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<v Speaker 2>my husband, I'm like, Okay, you work full time now

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to stay home and be a mama

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<v Speaker 2>for a while. And that's also probably why we have

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<v Speaker 2>all these animals too, because I was like, you collected animals,

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<v Speaker 2>collected animals during the pandemic, so like that's just what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did that. We hatched a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>some quails.

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<v Speaker 2>Damp Oh did you really how we did a baby quail?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anything newterer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think animals are the best way to teach children empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you just let.

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<v Speaker 2>The animals do the work and boom, you get an

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<v Speaker 2>empathetic kid because they're around an animal that needs it,

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<v Speaker 2>needs to you know, you need to feed it, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be gentle with it. Like I really think

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<v Speaker 2>that that is Gosh. My seventeen year old has the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest heart. She's so loving and so gentle and so patient.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not those things. I'm like very like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get it done, and I'm like very type A and

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<v Speaker 2>all the things, and she is not. And I really

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<v Speaker 2>credit the animals for that of having that effect on her.

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<v Speaker 1>Except the cleanup, my mind don't want to clean up.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I clean up up.

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<v Speaker 2>I clean up and there's all kinds of different poop

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<v Speaker 2>that I have to deal with, so many different kinds.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's okay. You know, it's like it's my baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind changing the day. It feels a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like that when it's your animals. It's like it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>So like whenever somebody comes to my bar and we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's got poop, I'm like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>No poop is great. I don't used to love eating

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<v Speaker 1>goat poop. It was like dessert.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's black beans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine.