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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, my brother.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you having men. I'm
Speaker 5: glad that there's some type of love on that side
Speaker 5: of the coast.
Speaker 6: Well, I guess in the Bay Area.
Speaker 5: And I was asked earlier today, I was doing a
Speaker 5: radio hit, like there's any organization that hates you, and
Speaker 5: I couldn't think of one until you tweet. They tweeted
Speaker 5: out that I was on your show, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 5: I know there's only one organization bro that The fans
Speaker 5: are like, nah, they ain't messing with it. So but
Speaker 5: you know, I understand, you know, I get it. Five
Speaker 5: years ago, I was hoping some of them forgot about
Speaker 5: it or let it go. I'm not a dirty place.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine how it is being the villain every night,
Speaker 5: in every arena, So a lot of flowers. Kudos to you, brother,
Speaker 5: because I just have one organization. That's because I was
Speaker 5: thinking about teams where I've left and they might have
Speaker 5: booed me, and actually they all received me pretty well.
Speaker 5: But the only one that that does not like me
Speaker 5: that much at all is Golden State fans. But you know,
Speaker 5: I still a lot of love to the fans everywhere.
Speaker 1: So love brother, And you know, for us there's no
Speaker 1: love loss. Obviously, we know you're not a dirty player.
Speaker 1: Plays happen, bro, when you're competing on an NBA finals level,
Speaker 1: on a championship level, I get it, Like two points
Speaker 1: changes everything. And by the way, you know unfortunate. You
Speaker 1: know that Clay got hurt, like love Clay to death,
Speaker 1: and like none of us are ever trying to hurt anybody.
Speaker 1: It's very unfortunate. But like basketball is also very much
Speaker 1: so a game of interest, just like football. And if
Speaker 1: you come up with that block, what it does for
Speaker 1: y'all from a momentum standpoint in a game where we
Speaker 1: really had the momentum, What that does for y'all from
Speaker 1: a momentum standpoint, if you get that block, it changes
Speaker 1: everything for sure.
Speaker 5: I mean you know how you know how critical everything
Speaker 5: matters man, from moose balls to down the floor block
Speaker 5: still and today's game and we're going to get to that.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of guys, a lot of plays that
Speaker 5: stuck out to me that started the momentum for Boston.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't necessarily the stars, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm watching the others and I'm sure you are too,
Speaker 5: but I really think Al Horford kind of set the
Speaker 5: tone for them tonight, and he's the one that came
Speaker 5: out first basket dunk, hit three ball, and then I
Speaker 5: think everybody kind of follows Suit Howser another guy hitting
Speaker 5: three ball. Timely you get up that Bixi Dallas found something.
Speaker 5: They cut it to eight, but those guys set the tone.
Speaker 6: Then.
Speaker 5: Of course Porzingis was just unbelievable. Night's first game back
Speaker 5: in weeks, a couple of months so. But it was
Speaker 5: an interesting game to watch, and I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 6: A fun series. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Speaker 1: It was a very fun serious. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be a very fun serious. It's very fun game
Speaker 1: to watch. I one thing that I want to keep
Speaker 1: my eye on is Porzingis, And the reason I want
Speaker 1: to keep my eyes on Porzingius is like that first
Speaker 1: game back, like you riding a high e bultions through
Speaker 1: the roof, you feeling good, like adrenaline crazy. After that,
Speaker 1: when you no longer can ride off the emotions and
Speaker 1: you got to ride off of the work that I
Speaker 1: put in. Not saying he hasn't put the work in,
Speaker 1: but your work has been limited reason reason you've been out,
Speaker 1: you know, and so when you then got to rely
Speaker 1: back on that and not necessarily the juice of like
Speaker 1: I'm back out here.
Speaker 3: I want to see how he responds. You know how
Speaker 3: that comes.
Speaker 1: About, you know, yeah, because that's gonna be like he
Speaker 1: was huge for them tonight.
Speaker 5: I know, I know you got a Boston fan on
Speaker 5: staff there. They played well tonight. Hell of a win
Speaker 5: for him, but Dallas found some things. I wouldn't be
Speaker 5: too confident after watching Tians get I didn't have a
Speaker 5: great game, and I don't think the energy said Zink
Speaker 5: is gonna be able to sustain that. Like you said,
Speaker 5: everybody has their group chets, everybody's playing GM, everybody's watching
Speaker 5: and criticize, and they're like yore Porzingis had a hell
Speaker 5: of a game.
Speaker 6: But there's no way he can sustain that. There's no
Speaker 6: way you can keep that.
Speaker 5: Energy yet three in the first quarter, and that's where
Speaker 5: I was watching more so is what he's gonna do
Speaker 5: with defenseven and.
Speaker 6: He stopped the lob for Dallas. You know, that was
Speaker 6: a key thing for Dallas.
Speaker 5: And you know Kai and Luca weren't able to get
Speaker 5: to the room as easy or you know, find Lively
Speaker 5: and Gaffer for lobs. That's a big change. But I
Speaker 5: think Dallas is gonna They're gonna find something. Jk is
Speaker 5: gonna find something. They they still they switched, They didn't
Speaker 5: trap as much. I didn't see many of that. Both
Speaker 5: teams switched and they're gonna take advantage of that. Luca
Speaker 5: took him a quarter to settle in, but once he
Speaker 5: settled in, he's he's found, so he knows where he's
Speaker 5: at now. Kyle just has to settle once that happens.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna have a series. Man, It's gonna be
Speaker 5: a real series.
Speaker 3: I agree with that, you know.
Speaker 1: Funny enough, I I thought in my prediction, I said
Speaker 1: that Dallas will lose this game. And the reason I
Speaker 1: thought that they would lose this game was because the Celtics,
Speaker 1: like and I played against this team this year.
Speaker 3: There their lanth and you've played against them through the years.
Speaker 1: That the lane like Jason Tatum is sixteen, Jay Brown
Speaker 1: at six eight, Drew Is six ' five, Derek White
Speaker 1: six ' five, Al har for sixteen sixty eleven. When
Speaker 1: you have that much length on the floor, there's no gaps, right,
Speaker 1: and they switched, they load up right when you Portzinga
Speaker 1: is seven feet even Sam Hopkson come off the bench
Speaker 1: six ' nine. Like the only guy that they play
Speaker 1: that's under six five it's Peyton Prescher and he don't
Speaker 1: play much. When you have that type of length and
Speaker 1: you can speak to it like that was kind of
Speaker 1: our team for all those years. That was your team
Speaker 1: in Toronto. You Kawhi only guy that played though smaller
Speaker 1: than that, Fred and Fred and Differenty'll play way bigger
Speaker 1: than his size, right, Like, but you got Pascal, you
Speaker 1: got you, you got Bouchet, like.
Speaker 5: Kwan marcasol normal, we had o g didn't even play.
Speaker 5: We had og on that roster, but we had a
Speaker 5: we had a really good defensive squad and we figured
Speaker 5: it out. But like you said that that that defensively,
Speaker 5: they have a lot of length. The only thing with
Speaker 5: Boston I said, I'm not confident because you know, they
Speaker 5: live and die by the three.
Speaker 6: They came out, they came out.
Speaker 5: Very hot, and they're always gonna have a game or
Speaker 5: two where it's gonna be it's gonna be dry, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, They're gonna be cold. So when
Speaker 5: that happens, we're gonna see if that defensive Porzingis can
Speaker 5: continue to protect the rim and if they can stay
Speaker 5: in a game. But ultimately they're gonna drop a game
Speaker 5: or two just because they they're not gonna shoot well.
Speaker 5: And then if Dallas can steal a game or two
Speaker 5: a game or so just because they you know, play
Speaker 5: well and they limit them.
Speaker 6: This is gonna be a six to seven game series.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: That's what we've been looking for for a while, because
Speaker 5: you know, Finals hasn't been Actually no, I'm tripping. Finals
Speaker 5: have been pretty good since she won six games before
Speaker 5: that it went to you know, six.
Speaker 6: Games, so it's been pretty good. It's a good matchup
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 3: So tell me this.
Speaker 1: So coming into this game as a coach, when you
Speaker 1: get to this level and you know it, you gotta
Speaker 1: pick something that's gonna beat you, and it is very
Speaker 1: evident what Boston said today is gonna beat us, meaning Luca,
Speaker 1: we not helping on your drives.
Speaker 3: We forced you to dry and were not helping take
Speaker 3: the layup.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to score seventy or sixty sixties. So
Speaker 5: go ahead, try to beat us by yourself.
Speaker 1: One assists, Luca has that's unheard, Luca god won assist.
Speaker 1: Do you think that game plan from Dallas, I mean,
Speaker 1: excuse me, from Boston where they can where they kept
Speaker 1: those other guys out tonight and gave up what they
Speaker 1: gave up to Luca, do you think that continues to
Speaker 1: work or what would your adjustment be if you're the
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks on how to get the other guys involved.
Speaker 6: You know, we were talking before you got on.
Speaker 5: You were saying how blowouts are never a good thing
Speaker 5: and never advantage for the team that won, because a
Speaker 5: lot of times you just don't make the adjustments. You're like, oh, worked,
Speaker 5: but you should have a backup because obviously the team
Speaker 5: that lost is gonna make plenty of adjustments, and you
Speaker 5: need to make sure you have adjustments for their adjustments.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's gonna work. It worked early.
Speaker 5: Jaylen Brown played great defense early first first half, fucking
Speaker 5: Luca a couple of times, making a physical al Horford
Speaker 5: even contested to block the shot or two. Like, that's
Speaker 5: not gonna be sustainable for the seven game series. Al
Speaker 5: Horford and those guys switching on to Kai and Luca
Speaker 5: is not gonna work.
Speaker 6: I think they're gonna have to change up.
Speaker 5: Once Luca gets going early, They're gonna probably try to
Speaker 5: trap himself if Kai gets in the rhythm.
Speaker 6: Ky just had a very off night, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like, when you have to both those threats going, the
Speaker 5: other guys are just gonna open up. You can't just
Speaker 5: stay home and let those guys kill because they will
Speaker 5: kill you and they.
Speaker 6: Can win games.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of to bring not to bring back
Speaker 5: bad memories for you guys, but when Bron and Kai,
Speaker 5: you know, you don't see that often when guys two guys.
Speaker 6: Can beat you.
Speaker 5: In fact, they did it, and then these two guys
Speaker 5: have the talent enough to beat you with just those guys.
Speaker 5: So ultimately, I think Boston isn't to have an adjustment.
Speaker 5: They're not probably gonna make it right now or right away.
Speaker 5: It might take a loss to figure that out, but
Speaker 5: you don't want to take a loss going back to Dallas.
Speaker 6: I'm saying you want to be one one going into Dallas.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, No, I agree. One, Like, you can tell Kyle
Speaker 3: was having an off game. Ky dribble the ball off
Speaker 3: his shoot?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ky don't lose the balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so you could tell it was off.
Speaker 1: And I think for him too, Like for him, I
Speaker 1: think also he has to make the emotional adjustment, right,
Speaker 1: Like you go back in this place, NBA Finals where
Speaker 1: they were expecting you to bring them to NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: Now you going back there, Like what's that like emotionally
Speaker 1: going back to a place where you've played and and
Speaker 1: like this is the NBA Finals, so this isn't even
Speaker 1: different thing. Like I think he has to adjust emotionally
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 5: It's and this is why I was like, it depends
Speaker 5: on what And we look at Kayle like, you know,
Speaker 5: Kay is great, And I'm like, even though Kay is
Speaker 5: Kay is one of the strongest mentally mental, you know,
Speaker 5: tougher guys in the league. No matter who you are,
Speaker 5: going back to a place you played before, it is
Speaker 5: not easy emotions. Just you just never know how it's
Speaker 5: gonna turn out. And you've never experiencedfore and I hope
Speaker 5: you never have to. But if you leave a place
Speaker 5: and you've been there for a long time and you
Speaker 5: go back and try to play that even if they
Speaker 5: don't bow you. Because we went back when I was
Speaker 5: with Kawhi and Toronto, they bowed the hell out of Kawhi.
Speaker 6: They cheered for me. They still cheer for me, which
Speaker 6: was which was cool.
Speaker 5: But I don't think I've ever had a I haven't
Speaker 5: had a good game in San Antonio since I left there.
Speaker 6: You know, it's just not easy to do. And it's
Speaker 6: just like adrenaline.
Speaker 5: It might take it the wrong we might shoot too much,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, you just never know
Speaker 5: how the emotions are gonna make you play it make
Speaker 5: maybe you play really well. I feel like there's no
Speaker 5: in between. You're gonna play really good or shitty, it's
Speaker 5: gonna be a really bad game. So I've had some
Speaker 5: good games against San Antonio at my home teams arena,
Speaker 5: but just not in San Antonio. And it's just one
Speaker 5: of those places it's just hard to settle in. It's
Speaker 5: hard to feel comfortable or you feel too comfortable.
Speaker 6: It's like them.
Speaker 5: I don't know why shots aren't dropping, but I knew
Speaker 5: it was gonna take him a game or a quarter
Speaker 5: at least. I have to like let those emotions kind
Speaker 5: of still settle. Even though it's been removed, still didn't
Speaker 5: leave in a great way. And I can't imagine playing
Speaker 5: your former team on this stage of how hot you
Speaker 5: know you want to do, You want to do well
Speaker 5: so badly that it you know it may counter right,
Speaker 5: like be kind of productive, may affect you differently. So
Speaker 5: either way, it's a I think Ky's gonna settle in.
Speaker 5: He'll be fine, but it's just not an easy place
Speaker 5: or easy situation to be in.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 5: And I said, I hope you never get have to
Speaker 5: experience it, because it's it can get ugly for you
Speaker 5: and you'd be like, damn, you be thinking about it
Speaker 5: all night, all day, all year. And then said, CON's
Speaker 5: mentally tough. He'll bounce back, but you just never know.
Speaker 3: I got my fingers crossed. I hope never.
Speaker 1: You know. It just dawned on me and thinking about
Speaker 1: you fucking beat me in the NBA five, I mean
Speaker 1: in the NCAA championship too.
Speaker 3: I just thought about that.
Speaker 6: We've been we go back, We go back, Bro, we
Speaker 6: go back in some time. We go back some time.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: Since college, Yes, I've been fortunate enough to have some
Speaker 5: really good teams and some good teammates that I had, Tyler,
Speaker 5: I had, Tye had Wayne, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And then so when I was in San Antonio, y'all
Speaker 5: were like, said, of course, you know, Steve came from there,
Speaker 5: Mike Brown came from there. So y'all were like a
Speaker 5: little brother. And eventually it's only be a matter of
Speaker 5: time before y'all start kicking ass. And we knew it,
Speaker 5: and we got old, we got older, and then you know, yeah,
Speaker 5: y'all playing five out, y'all changed the whole league to
Speaker 5: small ball, and it was like, Damn, I don't think
Speaker 5: we can I don't think we played Timmy in the series.
Speaker 5: Don't think we could play Timmy the series. We had
Speaker 5: to sit them, and yeah, we had a chance. We
Speaker 5: had a shot that y'all got kd We had Marcus
Speaker 5: and why and then why when he had the ankle
Speaker 5: go down, it was over for that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're going back from for some time.
Speaker 5: Now, Bro, fifteen years now, fifteen sixteen years we've been competing.
Speaker 3: Bro, It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Do you do you still wish to play right now?
Speaker 1: Or like, do you think this is it for you?
Speaker 1: You just by the way you do it? In credit,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching you on TV.
Speaker 3: Bro. I appreciate you job and.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, like you don't need that from me,
Speaker 1: but I just enjoy watch I fucking hate watching a
Speaker 1: lot of people on TV, but I really enjoy watching
Speaker 1: you on TV.
Speaker 5: As much as I'm not a fan of dupe guys,
Speaker 5: there's certain guys that are good on TV, and JJ
Speaker 5: was one of them because he backs us, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And I always like make sure that
Speaker 5: we you know, we can criticize guys, but not tear
Speaker 5: him down. And regardless of that, you know, I want
Speaker 5: to if I can criticize it. I want to be
Speaker 5: able to do that and be in that space. And
Speaker 5: I still have a lot to learn. I'm learning from
Speaker 5: everybody when I do it, even you.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. You handle yourself very.
Speaker 5: Well, bro, And for me, it's like I know, I
Speaker 5: got to slow down. I talk too slow, I talk
Speaker 5: too fast. I got to slow down. I got to
Speaker 5: be louder, try to make some good points, like you're
Speaker 5: really good at that, grabbing the viewers attention, making some
Speaker 5: good points, you know what I'm saying, dropping some bars,
Speaker 5: dropping some gems. People like oh Joe Dre got some
Speaker 5: bars with them, know what I'm saying. So I'm learning
Speaker 5: from everybody. So it's it's been great for me. It's
Speaker 5: a new challenge. People don't understand how different it is
Speaker 5: and it can be fun, but also how it's not easy.
Speaker 6: You know, it's not easy to do with people are
Speaker 6: doing it.
Speaker 5: So much respect to all those guys that do it
Speaker 5: at a high level and grab people's attention and do
Speaker 5: and said do as a profession. So now for me, man,
Speaker 5: I'm still trying to hoop. Bro just unfortunate. This year
Speaker 5: I was with Philly training Camp. I thought I had
Speaker 5: a really good training camp and to me, it showed
Speaker 5: me that like I could still hoop.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was like.
Speaker 5: The training camp was like, yeah, I still belong here,
Speaker 5: I still can hoop. I still play. But James wanted out.
Speaker 5: Trade happened. They brought in more guys and they sent
Speaker 5: out and my contract wasn't guaranteed. You know, me and
Speaker 5: Daryl had a situation whatever, So they were talking about
Speaker 5: Nick Nurse wanted to bring me back. It just didn't happen.
Speaker 5: But I feel like I have another, you know, a
Speaker 5: few years left, a couple of years left to hoop,
Speaker 5: you know, because I can do TV anymore. We can
Speaker 5: do that. We're forty fifty years old, and I thought
Speaker 5: about it. Now something comes along where it's like, all right,
Speaker 5: they give me a deal or a certain type of network.
Speaker 5: It's like we want you and they like to hang
Speaker 5: it up. It's going to take some more. But like
Speaker 5: I'm not married to the NBA. If I really want
Speaker 5: to play valleto the conversation with the wife but just
Speaker 5: had a little one. If she wants to play and
Speaker 5: she's okay with travel because going somewhere else, to another country,
Speaker 5: I don't know. But it's like, yeah, we only got
Speaker 5: two more years, maybe three more years left to this
Speaker 5: of hooping, and might.
Speaker 6: As will make the most of it.
Speaker 5: If you want to live in a nice country, it
Speaker 5: has to make sense though, if I go overseas, it
Speaker 5: has to be a really nice country where you're living well.
Speaker 5: But if not give another shot here, play, see what happens.
Speaker 5: But you know, ultimately transitioning man, just just adapting tojustin
Speaker 5: and learning the media game and you know, making sure
Speaker 5: that I have something because I'm not going to be
Speaker 5: one of those type of guys work. I mean, we
Speaker 5: all we all want to save to where we don't
Speaker 5: have to work. But I just can't see myself sitting
Speaker 5: at home and not doing a damn thing, saying, I
Speaker 5: gotta be doing something, bro. Got to find a purpose
Speaker 5: other than you know what I'm saying with the kids
Speaker 5: and coaching them, of course, but I can't just be
Speaker 5: at home and being a house dad or a house husband.
Speaker 5: But yeah, ultimately I still want to play. Hopefully somebody
Speaker 5: will give me another opportunity, another shot. But if they
Speaker 5: were to see me playing and see me work out,
Speaker 5: they'd be like, you know what, he's still he can
Speaker 5: still hoop, he can still move, and I think I
Speaker 5: could help a team, but not I'm.
Speaker 6: Healthy, bro, I think I'm two years out now.
Speaker 5: I was pretty I felt really healthy this past year
Speaker 5: to it was a training camp of Philly went really good. Okay,
Speaker 5: but yeah, just the luck of the I mean, cars
Speaker 5: didn't play out that way. You know how teams with
Speaker 5: the taxes, the cap, you know, teams are scared. People
Speaker 5: don't want to go into the bratle you know, the
Speaker 5: second second apron whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just a lot of that.
Speaker 5: The politics come into play, so you know just how
Speaker 5: it plays out sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, I respect that. Man.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand, like they're like, oh, you,
Speaker 1: your contract would be this, Like I've been in the
Speaker 1: league this amount of years, so my number looks different
Speaker 1: than the guy if you bring in in their second year,
Speaker 1: that number looks totally different than what it does for
Speaker 1: the cap.
Speaker 3: People don't understand that.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, man, like he can't hoop number, Like, no,
Speaker 1: he can't hoop for sure, Like and they don't understand
Speaker 1: the numbers, like how it works and the taxes and stuff.
Speaker 6: For sure.
Speaker 5: Just I pray that you don't well you can't fight
Speaker 5: getting old, but just don't ever get hurt.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: When you get hurt in your old the league just.
Speaker 5: They forget about you or they just like, ah, you know,
Speaker 5: your time is up. They ain't kind of really messing
Speaker 5: with it. They'd rather find a younger guy groom them.
Speaker 5: And they said it's cheaper so they cheaper than younger.
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I hope you don't have to. But
Speaker 5: I feel like for everybody it's it's always like a
Speaker 5: culture shock, trying to figure it out, trying to navigate me.
Speaker 5: And you were kind of, you know, tapping into other things.
Speaker 5: But most guys don't know what to do after. That's
Speaker 5: a fact and a lot of things people were taking
Speaker 5: your your statement out of context. I feel like when
Speaker 5: you're talking about, you know, the league doesn't really set
Speaker 5: us up to be wealthy after you know, you talk
Speaker 5: about the fines and things like that. I think it's
Speaker 5: more so like that type of situation, but also the
Speaker 5: lifestyle doesn't set you up for you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I think that's more of the point that people are missing.
Speaker 5: It's like you're making a lot of money, but when
Speaker 5: you make a lot of money, ultimately your bills are
Speaker 5: just can become more Naturally, you make five million dollars
Speaker 5: a year, you're going to have five hundred thousand dollars bills,
Speaker 5: maybe a million. If you make ten million dollars, it's
Speaker 5: gonna be a million or two million. You make twenty
Speaker 5: you probably have like two or three million dollar bills. Now,
Speaker 5: you may save up forty fifty when you're done. But
Speaker 5: if you don't work and you got three million dollar
Speaker 5: bills per year, your bills are three million dollars per year.
Speaker 5: You got ten twenty years to make it last. As
Speaker 5: about it, you still got lived to eighty. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But everybody else you don't realize. You
Speaker 5: have to get a job to at least cover the bills.
Speaker 5: Get another job where at least covers two three million.
Speaker 5: You can let that save if you want generational wealth
Speaker 5: for your kids to have it. You know, you find
Speaker 5: a job to cover the bills. But a lot of
Speaker 5: guys don't prepare for that, so they don't have a
Speaker 5: job when they're done to cover the bills. Ultimately, they're
Speaker 5: not broke, but it's only a matter of time before
Speaker 5: that money runs out in about ten years.
Speaker 6: And you know, you don't hit you until you're done playing.
Speaker 5: You like, you realize how expensive shit is, Like, Damn,
Speaker 5: that wasn't expensive when I was playing, But when I'm
Speaker 5: done playing, the checks ain't coming. Damn Fuck that costs
Speaker 5: that much. When you're trying to budget, it's a different thing, man.
Speaker 5: So I'm glad I'm going through it. I'm glad I'm
Speaker 5: learning it as I'm then, I was prepared for a
Speaker 5: vets that taught me like, yo, try to tap into
Speaker 5: this and have other things to fall back on. And
Speaker 5: I have a lot of opportunities. People called like seeing
Speaker 5: if I wanted to do coaching interviews and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not ready yet do media. So yeah, I've been
Speaker 5: blessed man to be around some great people and some
Speaker 5: good organizations that give me opportunities for after basketball as well.
Speaker 1: No doubt, man, that's great to hear switching gears a
Speaker 1: little bit as a player who's, like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: want to do it, still can do it, probably will
Speaker 1: still continue to do it, but it's closer to the
Speaker 1: end than you are the beginning as I am, and
Speaker 1: and understanding as a former player, the opportunities that we have.
Speaker 1: What was your thoughts on the Lakers the rumors that
Speaker 1: the Lakers zeroing in on JJ Reddick, former player, you know,
Speaker 1: just like more former players getting these these coaching jobs
Speaker 1: and being in and running for these jobs. What was
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Jj? You mentioned them being you know
Speaker 1: with that report coming.
Speaker 5: Out, Yeah, I mean I like JJ. I think we
Speaker 5: all respect to what he does for us in the media.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, He does a great job.
Speaker 5: I think he has a great basketball mind.
Speaker 6: You know the reports are going around now.
Speaker 5: Dan Hurley is another candidate, But I think JJ does
Speaker 5: deserve a coaching job. I don't know if I would
Speaker 5: like that one for him. You know, the Lakers' job
Speaker 5: is a tough one.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: People think you know your tough mental player, kid, coach, whatever.
Speaker 5: You're like, you know I could do anything. I've been
Speaker 5: through the ring. You know I can handle it. I'll
Speaker 5: be fine. So you get in there. That ring is
Speaker 5: a different type of ring. And I've seen certain guys,
Speaker 5: even the most tough. It's got Russell Westbrook. There's not
Speaker 5: a guy that I know in this league that is
Speaker 5: tough mentally than him.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That carries that confidence chip on his shoulder night and
Speaker 5: night out. Don't give a damn with who says anything.
Speaker 5: And he went to LA and he just looked like
Speaker 5: a different person. And I'm like, damn, those lights are different,
Speaker 5: that organization, those fans are different. It can change you,
Speaker 5: It can kind of break some people, and it can
Speaker 5: make a break your career and that's your first coaching
Speaker 5: job for Jjm's like, I don't know if that's the
Speaker 5: first one I want to get into, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But I think it's I think it's a good high.
Speaker 6: I think it's dope.
Speaker 5: Ibouls see some conflicts with JJ and Bron having the podcast.
Speaker 5: You know, they're not sure if you don't get the
Speaker 5: respect in the locker room. If Bron respects him, everybody
Speaker 5: else should. I think everybody else respects you. Even as
Speaker 5: a player. He was a really good player. He's a
Speaker 5: great player, and he's so good at what he does
Speaker 5: media wise, he's you know, people kind of forgetting how
Speaker 5: good he was as a player. That's how good he
Speaker 5: is as a media hit. But yeah, I think it's
Speaker 5: a good I think he's a good higher anywhere. But
Speaker 5: I just for JJ. I think it's gonna be tough,
Speaker 5: and if i'm him, I don't know if I want
Speaker 5: that to be my first one. I don't know what
Speaker 5: your thoughts on it, if you have any other better candidates,
Speaker 5: and whose assistant coaches over there? Y'all have some good
Speaker 5: assistants over there, Like is this somebody you think would
Speaker 5: fit better.
Speaker 3: And I think JJ would do a great job.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, with the report that him
Speaker 1: and Brian have, Like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: no coach in the NBA is successful without.
Speaker 3: The back end of their best player.
Speaker 1: Like if their best player on the back there, that
Speaker 1: coach ain't going to be successful. So I think with
Speaker 1: their report that they have, I'd imagine that Brian, you
Speaker 1: do a podcast with this man, I'd imagine you respect them,
Speaker 1: you respect this basketball mind, you respect all those things.
Speaker 1: So to your point, if you know, you know, if
Speaker 1: that's the case, then I think that ultimately helps where
Speaker 1: I think the business of the NBA happens. It's like
Speaker 1: when you see people don't understand the dynamic of having
Speaker 1: multiple stars, right yeah, And the dynamic of having multiple
Speaker 1: stars can be different. So there could be a dynamic
Speaker 1: where JJ, like Bron loves JJ and.
Speaker 3: Wants him as the coach.
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is a totally different start that may want
Speaker 1: something else. I don't notice to be facts. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying how the dynamics could work. Because for me, when
Speaker 1: I see Dan Hurley all of a sudden come out
Speaker 1: of nowhere like he's their guy, their reporting, they're flying
Speaker 1: them out to LA like just a day ago they
Speaker 1: were zeroing in on JJ.
Speaker 3: Raight.
Speaker 1: Now, yes, these are reports, but this is Sham's reporting,
Speaker 1: Like this ain't Fox News or like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: Sham's reporting. And so you know when he reports, when
Speaker 1: Woldes reports and holds water, that's a different thing like that,
Speaker 1: like they know what and so for that to come
Speaker 1: out one day and then the next day, it's like
Speaker 1: damn Hurley to me, like how does that change that fast?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And I just sit back and I'm like, WHOA, Maybe
Speaker 1: this happened because I do understand dynamic of stars in
Speaker 1: the NBA for sure.
Speaker 5: It's interesting also because I feel like we came in
Speaker 5: at a similar time. Early on, social media wasn't as
Speaker 5: big when we first got into the league.
Speaker 6: It grew, and.
Speaker 5: Certain things that were reported did not affect how people coached,
Speaker 5: how people traded, gms looked at things. You can see
Speaker 5: now how the media is huge and it can get
Speaker 5: into locker rooms, it can get into organizations. I think
Speaker 5: when they put out the JJ thing, they didn't like
Speaker 5: the responses that they got and people were like, what
Speaker 5: the hell is this serious? I thought this was a
Speaker 5: joke or you know who's gonna brought Like they probably
Speaker 5: saw a lot of negative heat and was like, are
Speaker 5: you not vetting anybody else? Is in no better candidates?
Speaker 5: I like James Barrego, I had him in San Antonio,
Speaker 5: JB good people's everybody else that is really good has
Speaker 5: a job already or has been picked up, so it's
Speaker 5: not a lot of options. I think this was, I
Speaker 5: want to say, like a cover up, but it was
Speaker 5: something like, all right, we gotta do we gotta do
Speaker 5: some other research and see other options. Now does Dan
Speaker 5: take the job?
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't think he does.
Speaker 5: I don't think it makes sense for Lea Yukon, especially
Speaker 5: if he can get extended there for the same amount
Speaker 5: of money and stay in Connecticut, because it's a tough situation.
Speaker 6: But you know, who knows.
Speaker 5: I thought that, you know, maybe Kentucky would have threw
Speaker 5: some money at him when you know Cale left for Arkansas.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he's got to pick up. Literally, he's in
Speaker 5: a really good situation and he can do whatever he
Speaker 5: wants to do. I don't know if he would take
Speaker 5: the Lakers job, but I think this is just them
Speaker 5: kind of like seeing the response they got from the
Speaker 5: media and like, all right, we gotta kind of see
Speaker 5: you see what else is out there and see what
Speaker 5: the see what the response is from Like Dan Hurley,
Speaker 5: what do they think of that? I'm people like, Oh,
Speaker 5: this is a probably really good candidate because JJ, even
Speaker 5: though he's really great, he's never coached before, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, it's like we've kind of forget
Speaker 5: that you would think that yet because of how smart
Speaker 5: he is and how he knows the game, how he
Speaker 5: talks in the media.
Speaker 6: It's like, Yo, he's really good. He's really never coached before.
Speaker 5: And fact for him, I wouldn't want that that job
Speaker 5: for him, having to manage that locker room with egos
Speaker 5: and that nature. I have a couple of questions for you,
Speaker 5: like what do you think outside of coaching, what pieces
Speaker 5: do you think they need the Lakers, Yeah, to like
Speaker 5: make because I thought they had great foundation. I thought
Speaker 5: it worked. Obviously, they match up with Denver, which is
Speaker 5: not the best matchup for them, but I feel like
Speaker 5: any of the series they could win or beat teams.
Speaker 5: But obviously they're missing some pieces. So you keep a
Speaker 5: D and Brown. What moves they talk about Trey Young
Speaker 5: they talk about the John say, Murray, what do you
Speaker 5: think they should do? Or make put your GM out
Speaker 5: on what do you if you're the Lakers, what do
Speaker 5: you do? Coaching wise and players wise?
Speaker 1: I think any young guard they can get would be
Speaker 1: like what helped that team because for them, if you
Speaker 1: got like a Trey Young or de Johntay Murray with
Speaker 1: the back end of Bron and eighty, like, that's a
Speaker 1: totally different thing. And that young guard is in point
Speaker 1: guard in Bron's point guard school because Bron is a
Speaker 1: point guard point guard. He's been a point guard his
Speaker 1: whole life, right, So not only with their skill, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know whoever that young guard can be. It
Speaker 1: don't have to be a Dejohntey or Trey that's just
Speaker 1: the names you mentioned. But like any young guard, you
Speaker 1: have talent, you have skill, your dynamic in the way
Speaker 1: that these young guards are in the NBA and you
Speaker 1: get to go to bron point guard school and you
Speaker 1: get to play with one of the best bigs in
Speaker 1: the NBA and Anthony Davis, like you and I both know,
Speaker 1: for a long time, teams were built in the NBA
Speaker 1: on having a great guard and a great big and
Speaker 1: you feel everything else out in between. Then it starts
Speaker 1: changing with like us, but you're starting to see that
Speaker 1: shift back again, like that is starting to shift back
Speaker 1: to like.
Speaker 6: It's just a different big now. It's like a check
Speaker 6: type of big now.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so with that shift kind of happening, like
Speaker 1: so now you say you got a great big and
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, and you get you got like a guard
Speaker 1: young guard that can go to Lebron James point guard school.
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, you still got Lebron James
Speaker 1: who can get great at any moment. Don't don't gotta
Speaker 1: beat there all the time. He's in your twenty seven like,
Speaker 1: but can get be great in the blink.
Speaker 3: Of an eye in any moment.
Speaker 1: You need in between that, Like, I think that's I
Speaker 1: think that's that's dangerous and none of us will want
Speaker 1: to see that, you know. So I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think they you know, it's going to be interesting
Speaker 1: to see what they do.
Speaker 3: But if I'm not mistaken, little Rule, they.
Speaker 5: Got, they got pieces, they got stuff they can do. Ultimately,
Speaker 5: I think they need to start preparing for the future.
Speaker 5: And that's if Anthony Davis stays there. They do need
Speaker 5: somebody to replace Bron instead of a guard that's a
Speaker 5: young guard that can kind of do some of the
Speaker 5: similar things or give you that type of dynamic of
Speaker 5: the you know, the one two punch.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Man, it's a tough job.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I don't have it being that GM, but
Speaker 5: I also have incredible job though he's been doing this
Speaker 5: thing man, big shout out to him. But I do
Speaker 5: have one other question for me to take off your podcast.
Speaker 5: I love, but for you guys, man, I think you
Speaker 5: guys are still a contender. You keep the group that
Speaker 5: y'all have together. What is it you think that y'all
Speaker 5: were missing this year? Obviously you had some ups and downs,
Speaker 5: you being in now some injuries. What do you what
Speaker 5: changes do you think you might need to make or
Speaker 5: what you think you need to do for y'all to
Speaker 5: get back to where y'all work for next year.
Speaker 1: Like I think for us, like it's going to be
Speaker 1: very important for us to define who it is that
Speaker 1: we're gonna be Like, like we change him, bro, Like
Speaker 1: like you said, we get older, Like we are not
Speaker 1: the same basketball team that we were in twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: or even in twenty twenty two for that matter, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it changes, you know what I'm saying, And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we're adjusting to that change, which is which
Speaker 1: is great. Like Steve, I think Steve is doing an
Speaker 1: incredible job of where he's becoming more open to like
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga having the ball more like Kaminga being in
Speaker 1: the pick and roll and like running some ISOs for Kaminga,
Speaker 1: whereas you know, it takes some time to adjust to
Speaker 1: that when you've had the level of success that we've
Speaker 1: had doing what we've done, like, it takes some time
Speaker 1: to adjust to that. And it also takes you know,
Speaker 1: everybody want to come in and do things right away.
Speaker 1: And I think what Kaminga end up learning. And I
Speaker 1: commend him. I commend the young fella because he's stuck
Speaker 1: with it. Is you come in and you're looking at
Speaker 1: like a Jalen Green or one of those guys that's
Speaker 1: in Houston or you know, in one of those places
Speaker 1: that you know they got in, they got the ball right.
Speaker 3: Away and do what the hell they wanted to do.
Speaker 1: It right and you look at that and you like, man,
Speaker 1: I want to you know, I want to show what
Speaker 1: I can do and you don't realize. And like I said,
Speaker 1: this is this is no knock on Jonathan Minga. That's
Speaker 1: my young fellow. I love him to death. And again
Speaker 1: I'm crediting him. You don't realize that. A. When I'm
Speaker 1: in a great situation, respect is earned. B. They've done
Speaker 1: things a certain way, and it saw me to show
Speaker 1: them that doing this work my way where I can
Speaker 1: be successful, will work for them and they should do that.
Speaker 1: And you know, when I watched the young fella's growth
Speaker 1: is for a little while, it was up and down
Speaker 1: because I don't think he understood that. And by the way,
Speaker 1: how do you understand that without going through it? And
Speaker 1: then I think it clicked for him. Let me do
Speaker 1: the things that I need to do to get on
Speaker 1: the court. Once I'm on the court, I can then
Speaker 1: do a little more of what I know I'm capable
Speaker 1: of doing. Oh and by the way, when I do that, now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Steve Kirk trust me. And I
Speaker 1: scored twenty points in seventeen eighteen straight games in a
Speaker 1: row because he trusts me.
Speaker 3: Oh, look how that works.
Speaker 1: And so I think you know that has helped like
Speaker 1: young guys, you know, we got the young guys coming along.
Speaker 3: And VP and Trace.
Speaker 1: Like I think as the year went on, you started
Speaker 1: to see, like, man, Trace is a real live threat.
Speaker 1: You know, we went through the early part of the
Speaker 1: year without necessarily having a live threat, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And me and lou Me and Lune got
Speaker 1: a certain chemistry that's great.
Speaker 3: I love playing with Kavan Looney man, you.
Speaker 1: Know, but like with the lead changing and getting bigger,
Speaker 1: we ain't that athletic together. You started to see, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, they start like separating me and Lune, like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm in the lineup when I'm out, los
Speaker 1: in the lineup.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, loos in when.
Speaker 1: I'm out the game, looning Because you just start to
Speaker 1: see the league's changing, and so then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: incorporate that young live threat, and that changes our offense,
Speaker 1: it changes our defense, and things start to change it.
Speaker 1: So I think for us it is just important for
Speaker 1: us to shore up. I always tell people, and you
Speaker 1: know it, Championships are one six through ten, yeah, and
Speaker 1: championships are not one one through five, And so it's
Speaker 1: just on us to shore up and make the decisions
Speaker 1: of what does our six to ten look like? You know,
Speaker 1: what does our one to five look like? Does that mean, Draymond,
Speaker 1: you're out of the start lineup and cominga's in? Although
Speaker 1: I think comingas are better three than necessarily a four. Right,
Speaker 1: But like, these are the decisions that we have to make.
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, I'm happy I ain't
Speaker 1: got the job. It's all those things. But Steve's great
Speaker 1: in those situations. I think he'll make them. I think
Speaker 1: Mike's doing a great job. It'll be very important for
Speaker 1: us to try to get Klay back, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think, you know that's huge. What what does Clay do?
Speaker 1: If Clay decides not to come back, then what does
Speaker 1: that look like for us?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Like are you swinging to try to get another big guy?
Speaker 3: Like? What does that look like? And so it'll be weird.
Speaker 1: I just think there are some decisions that have to
Speaker 1: be made for us, and I trust and know that
Speaker 1: our front office and our coach staff will make the
Speaker 1: right decisions. But I think we still got a small
Speaker 1: window to make something happen.
Speaker 3: And you know, I know this.
Speaker 1: Organization will honor Steph and myself and Clay I know
Speaker 1: they'll honor us in that way of giving us every
Speaker 1: chance they can to help us win.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dunleavy's done a great job, man, So it's Steve.
Speaker 5: I love what they've done. I said, it'd be weird
Speaker 5: to see Clay in another uniform. I hope he doesn't leave.
Speaker 5: It'll just be weird. And as much as I fucking
Speaker 5: hate y'all winning so much and competing agains y'all, it's
Speaker 5: just weird to see a group like that special to
Speaker 5: have to break up because of you know, some other things.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the end.
Speaker 5: Of the day, ultimate when we talk about the young
Speaker 5: guys that do I hope y'all keep your core. You said,
Speaker 5: filling in with some pieces, because if y'all just stay
Speaker 5: consistent and healthy, y'all just had some and like y'all
Speaker 5: would definitely playoff team. It's just getting back to the
Speaker 5: level of contention, and if y'all are healthy, I think
Speaker 5: y'all can compete with any like any given night, like
Speaker 5: y'all can win a series of beat a team four games,
Speaker 5: just finding the right pieces, and said a lot of
Speaker 5: young guys don't understand, which I like so much. Derek Lively,
Speaker 5: is that you don't have to do what Jalen Green
Speaker 5: does to show your value. What I'm saying, Kaminga, It's like, yo, people,
Speaker 5: you don't have to do all those things.
Speaker 6: People know how valuable you are.
Speaker 5: You can still do the other things since baby steps,
Speaker 5: work your way in, work your way up. But just
Speaker 5: because you're not you don't have to do that, and
Speaker 5: you can still make a lot of money because people
Speaker 5: can see that in you before you have to show it.
Speaker 5: They can see you can grow into that and then
Speaker 5: eventually let you get there. You just how to kind
Speaker 5: of wait, wait your turn, wait your time. But you
Speaker 5: can still be valued by doing what you're you're good
Speaker 5: at first and then kind of opening, you know, get
Speaker 5: stepping outside the box and then you know, adding some
Speaker 5: more things to the bag. But yeah, the value is
Speaker 5: not on you know, let me let me show what
Speaker 5: I can do and show the world or the fans.
Speaker 6: You don't have to do that, dude.
Speaker 3: It's only a couple of guys they're gonna let do that.
Speaker 5: It's like two percent if that one percent of guys
Speaker 5: in the league is gonna do that, and you can
Speaker 5: get there at some point. You'll get there, but ultimately
Speaker 5: just win. Do what you're supposed to do to feed
Speaker 5: your him. You'll show your value by doing that, you'll
Speaker 5: keep getting paid and getting years in the league, and
Speaker 5: then you get to that level. But that's why I
Speaker 5: like Derrick Lovy so much. A lot of guys on Dallas,
Speaker 5: and I think they have a really good shot because
Speaker 5: guys know their roles very well and know it early,
Speaker 5: and they're not tripping about having to be that guy
Speaker 5: yet that's the fact.
Speaker 1: No, we got a young guy like that also, where
Speaker 1: like I think he actually made it very tough on
Speaker 1: our coaches this year because when he plays, he plays
Speaker 1: well Moses. Moses plays like that.
Speaker 6: I like this game.
Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, well compete, defend, you know, but like,
Speaker 1: as you know, it's a numbers game, and sometimes the
Speaker 1: numbers don't fall your way. But like you keep going
Speaker 1: back to this dude because you know every time he produced,
Speaker 1: the numbers just don't always fall your way. And that's
Speaker 1: like a young guy who like even with Moses, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you're at that positioning in the young guy's careers where
Speaker 1: like you have to make those decisions and I think
Speaker 1: making those decisions help because it's like, you know what
Speaker 1: Moses is our guy in the lineup. And when you
Speaker 1: start solidifying that stuff, it really helps to growth. And
Speaker 1: so you know Moses, I love Moses. That's my young show.
Speaker 6: But nah, man, that's a huge back.
Speaker 5: And you're encouraging young players because you know young rookies
Speaker 5: are just that's the big confidence is of making breaking
Speaker 5: them in the league. And you have the right coaching
Speaker 5: staff behind you, the right group behind you, right vets.
Speaker 6: I think he's in a good spot, man. So it's traits.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 5: I think my younger brother played with Trace at Iu.
Speaker 5: So you haven't seen any play for a while, but
Speaker 5: they're in a good spot man, because you said, I
Speaker 5: see a lot of young guys, man, and they have
Speaker 5: the potential to be so great.
Speaker 6: They're just in the wrong organization with no.
Speaker 1: Vets and the organization it's always not the play.
Speaker 5: So and I don't want to point out any organizational players,
Speaker 5: but it's like it is a lot of talent here.
Speaker 5: He's just not getting groomed the right way. He's not
Speaker 5: having the right vets around him. He just don't understand
Speaker 5: how to be a pro yet first and then be
Speaker 5: a basketball player and then growing to being a star
Speaker 5: it's it's a process, man, that's a fact.
Speaker 3: Before we get out of here. Man, I appreciate you
Speaker 3: coming on the show. Course like who you got.
Speaker 5: Before the series, I predicted Dallas and six. I'm still
Speaker 5: gonna stick with that. If they don't. If they don't
Speaker 5: get him in six and it goes to seven, it's
Speaker 5: gonna be tough for them to beat Boston at home.
Speaker 5: I just said, Boston to me has been They're really good.
Speaker 5: They're not as battle tested as they should be. They
Speaker 5: they say they live and die by the three. Where
Speaker 5: zengis played well to night, I.
Speaker 6: Don't know how. I don't know if he can keep
Speaker 6: that up. Him being healthy I was.
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure in his health, and that was gonna
Speaker 5: be a big part of how well they were going
Speaker 5: to succeed. If he can stay healthy and keep doing
Speaker 5: what he's doing, they have a really good shot.
Speaker 6: But if not, I just don't see.
Speaker 5: Said al Horford had a really good game, Houser had
Speaker 5: a good game, Kle didn't have a great game. Luca
Speaker 5: settled in late and they cut it to eight, and
Speaker 5: that showed me that's the real part of the game
Speaker 5: where I'm like, all right, this is what the game
Speaker 5: is more like gonna be like instead of the twenty
Speaker 5: thirty point game. And if it's close, I'm trusting more
Speaker 5: in Dallas's closers than Boston's closers. So I have Dallas
Speaker 5: and six, But I think this is gonna be a
Speaker 5: good one, and said it's a toss up. We just
Speaker 5: don't know how the emotions of Kyle being in Boston.
Speaker 5: Bro said two, We're gonna see how he bounces back.
Speaker 5: I expect and hope that he does, but you just
Speaker 5: never know when you're that's the scenario.
Speaker 3: I hope that for him.
Speaker 1: I saw some stat where it's like he's zero and
Speaker 1: ten and and games in Boston since either he's stumped
Speaker 1: on Lucky or since he left Boston or something like that,
Speaker 1: and that now makes four eleven. So I just want
Speaker 1: to see him get the monkey off his back, because
Speaker 1: you guys know, all it takes is one one.
Speaker 6: One shot on win on basket.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I can be good. So I definitely
Speaker 1: want to see Kay get the monkey off his back.
Speaker 1: Rooting for him. But I appreciate you coming on the show, brother,
Speaker 1: of course, I appreciate you having me absolutely. Thank you
Speaker 1: to everybody for watching the show. We'll be back next Sunday.
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Speaker 6: You also cat catch your boy.
Speaker 5: I'm doing some stuff with Odyssey inside the green room
Speaker 5: with Danny Green, doing some stuff with ESPN two.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be on ESPN tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm the NBA today, but you know
Speaker 5: I'm a free I'm a freelance guy, so I've been
Speaker 5: able to do stuff with Turner, ESPN, Yahoo has been cool.
Speaker 5: Man to see which networks if you get a chance
Speaker 5: to dabble in different ones, you see which one more
Speaker 5: fits you. But I'm enjoying the process, man. But your
Speaker 5: inside the green room, Danny Green. You catch me covering
Speaker 5: some of the final stuff as well.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: By the way, I just want you to know also
Speaker 1: inside the green room, I so fired and I was
Speaker 1: so genial with just as Raymond Green show.
Speaker 5: I didn't come up with the name bro. I can't
Speaker 5: take credit for it. The homie he was. We grew
Speaker 5: up together. We went to high school. Well not mutual friends,
Speaker 5: but I've known him since high school and he threw
Speaker 5: the podcast at me. And this is actually year six.
Speaker 5: I've been doing it for six years, and I was
Speaker 5: in San Antonio. I know, if you know much about
Speaker 5: San Antonio, they don't care for media or they didn't
Speaker 5: want to do nothing. So I was very skeptical about
Speaker 5: doing this podcast. I was like, bro, I don't know
Speaker 5: if they're gonna let me do this shit, honestly, and
Speaker 5: I said I was gonna do it.
Speaker 6: And we got traded in Toronto and then I had
Speaker 6: the news.
Speaker 5: They thought I had the inside school on KWI blew up,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. We got a little studio
Speaker 5: in Toronto and from there it went off.
Speaker 6: So it's easy. In Toronto.
Speaker 5: They did a great job organization to let me feel
Speaker 5: comfortable it. But the homie came up with the name.
Speaker 5: I didn't really wasn't sure if I was gonna do it.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I did. I got the reps. It's allowed
Speaker 5: me to like get behind it, you know, build some
Speaker 5: type of resume on screen and learn ins and outs
Speaker 5: of media. But yeah, ultimately it's a year six and
Speaker 5: I said, the name is dope, but I have to
Speaker 5: get credit somebody, my guy, Harrison Sanford, who came up
Speaker 5: with the name, and then I'm Jad Osman, my producer.
Speaker 5: He was my producer at the time, so they came
Speaker 5: up with it. But it is it's catch. Its a
Speaker 5: good one. It's a good one.
Speaker 3: No, that's fire. I would love to come on your
Speaker 3: show too, bro, if you have.
Speaker 5: Bro, come on now, you know what talk. Yes, I
Speaker 5: appreciate I get you on, gotta get you. I appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 5: Enjoy the finals, man, I'm sure you'll be out probably
Speaker 5: how you fly out the boss some of these days, Dallas,
Speaker 5: I know you could be covering on the big screen
Speaker 5: on the panel.
Speaker 3: Enjoy you. You're done right, I'll be right, mind.
Speaker 6: I mean, I was looking forward to you and Chuck
Speaker 6: and shack Man. Can't you go out of this? It's
Speaker 6: funny as hell.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: I got to bring that show back, and they can't
Speaker 6: lose it.
Speaker 3: They can't lose the show. The show is everything.
Speaker 5: It's very vital to the game of the sport and
Speaker 5: the NBA, so we need that back.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. That's a wrap. Appreciate y'all. Peace,