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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Kyle Forber and welcome to The Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Alecki.

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Speaker 3: It's the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Yeah, it is Hey everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's been a little Howard's tern impression.

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Speaker 2: It's a Monday, July twenty first, twenty twenty five. How

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Speaker 2: are you, guys?

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Speaker 4: Were good?

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Speaker 3: Were good out there?

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Speaker 2: I hope everybody's doing good, doing great, Yeah, Jim.

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Speaker 5: Phillies fans, The Phillies fans aren't.

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Speaker 3: No, Phillies fans are not happy. Not a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've lost two out of three of the Angels.

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Speaker 6: They've lost three straight series.

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Speaker 3: Three straight series.

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Speaker 4: No bueno.

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Speaker 2: They haven't been playing great ball for less last six

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Speaker 2: weeks or.

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Speaker 6: So, twenty and twenty one since June first, twenty and

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Speaker 6: twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's a lot. There's a lot going on right now.

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Speaker 6: They're lucky. The Mets are like twenty and twenty two

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Speaker 6: over that span.

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Speaker 4: You're right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if the Mets were playing solid ball

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Speaker 2: right now, they'd be four or five six games back.

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Speaker 6: Imagine if the Phillies, if somebody was playing solid ball,

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Speaker 6: there would be some air between those two teams.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so there's a lot, a lot of holes

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Speaker 2: to be filled, a lot of play to be improved.

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Speaker 2: But hey, after the game today, the Phillies made a

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Speaker 2: big move and that's a great place to start with.

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Speaker 3: So, guys, the news.

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Speaker 2: The news today, of course, is that the Phillies got

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Speaker 2: some bullpen help. We actually talked about this in late May.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you make guys, remember a Mark

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Speaker 2: Fines at MLB dot com wrote about David robertson free

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Speaker 2: agentsy pursuit and I think the Phillies might have been

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Speaker 2: mentioned in that story, and you know, we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: But they've agreed.

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Speaker 3: They've agreed to terms.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen million, about around sixteen million. Maybe it's not exactly

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Speaker 2: sixteen million, but it's around sixteen million pro rated, pro

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Speaker 2: rated of course, Yeah, that has to be mentioned. So

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Speaker 2: he'll be paid anywhere from you know, five to six

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Speaker 2: million dollars until the end of the season. Now, because

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Speaker 2: the Phillies are over the luxury tax, they're tax at

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent of that, So they're going

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Speaker 2: to be paying David five to six million, and then

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Speaker 2: they're gonna be paying the luxury tax about you know,

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Speaker 2: a little bit more than that, so double that.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So it's a good eleven twelve million dollar move right there.

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Speaker 6: The Phillies are deep in cash. They didn't have to

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Speaker 6: give up a prospect. I think it's a pretty good flyer.

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Speaker 6: He had a great year last year, struck out over

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Speaker 6: twelve dollars per nine innings his third time through here.

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Speaker 6: They know him well. He apparently threw for nine teams

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Speaker 6: over the weekend and the Phillies like what they saw

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Speaker 6: and boom he's here. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 1: They don't have to give up any talent collateral, and

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Speaker 1: you know, the the reality of it is they probably

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Speaker 1: have to give up a lot for you know, for

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Speaker 1: the players that may or may not be available.

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Speaker 5: Like I've been saying, it's hard to make trades, man,

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Speaker 5: it's difficult. And in this day and age, when everybody's.

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Speaker 7: Looking for the same thing and there's so many teams

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Speaker 7: that are still in it, there's probably ten teams that

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Speaker 7: can win it, and and so there's there's a lot

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Speaker 7: more buyers than our sellers, and there's not a whole

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Speaker 4: So nice move by the Phillies. I don't mind.

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Speaker 6: And they need the way I look at it, we've

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Speaker 6: talked about this. I think they need three relievers, so

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Speaker 6: they got one. I mean, we'll see what he does,

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Speaker 4: The question for you, Jim, is you need they need three?

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Speaker 4: Is one of those coming from the Phillies rotation?

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Speaker 6: Yes, So I've said that all along I need.

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Speaker 4: So that's one. That's two. So they didn't want more.

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Speaker 6: Solid to me, you're gonna shoot for the moon on somebody,

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Speaker 6: And then one guy comes from the rotation. We'll see

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Speaker 6: who that is. But you know, they're moving in the

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Speaker 6: right direction in that bullpen. Uh, you know, we don't

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Speaker 2: So he's forty years old. Last year with the Rangers, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he had a good year last year. He was three

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Speaker 2: understanding was he made ten million dollars last year for

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Speaker 6: Fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I heard, yeah, yeah, fifteen. You know, I've heard you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen. So let's say fifteen, and nobody wanted

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Speaker 2: to meet that price. And I guess he was content

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Speaker 2: and he's been spending the summer and you're in your

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Speaker 2: old neck of the woods, Jim helping Providence, Rhode Island.

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Speaker 4: Hey, so here's the thing.

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Speaker 8: So, so let me just tell you what the mentality

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Speaker 8: twelve million, why wouldn't signed with that? Well, he's also

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Speaker 8: thinking more long term as far as the union is concerned.

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Speaker 4: He's thinking about, you know, the future.

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Speaker 8: He doesn't need the money. I guarantee he doesn't need

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Speaker 8: the money. He's made plenty of money in his lifetime

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Speaker 5: It's about trying to make sure that they moved the

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Speaker 4: Union would like to see. So that's all part of

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Speaker 6: But I also think, I also think, I mean, I

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Speaker 6: And he ain't gonna budge for anything anything less than

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Speaker 6: this is my value. If you don't meet it, I'm

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Speaker 6: like you said, I made enough money. But if you

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Speaker 2: He's made over one hundred million dollars in his career,

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Speaker 2: a great career. Yeah, he's this will be what you're

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Speaker 2: seventeen for him. So he's going to take his physical

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Speaker 2: in Philly. It deals not official yet, of course, he

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Speaker 2: has to pass the physical. There's no reason to think

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Speaker 2: he won't pass the physical. How quickly do you think

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Speaker 2: he can get wrapped up do you think he can

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Speaker 3: Be over under.

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Speaker 2: Pitching for the Phillies by let's say, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: August fourth, that'd be right around.

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Speaker 6: I think I think he's ready by July thirty. First, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think he's coming. I heard he's coming to Philadelphia

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Speaker 6: on Monday today. Get his physical and you know, throw

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Speaker 6: You're not going to throw him out in the age

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Speaker 4: But let's let's right, let's think. Let's think Matt strong,

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Speaker 4: Matt Strom was ready in a minute, have a spring training, true,

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Speaker 5: Wasn't necessarily ready ready, but he was. He had a

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Speaker 4: One outing.

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Speaker 4: Really well here.

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Speaker 5: He likes this organization. They treat their players well, they

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Speaker 4: There's a whole.

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Speaker 8: Piece of this that that'll tell you a lot about

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Speaker 8: what John Middleton and Dave Dombrowski have built as far

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Speaker 3: So we still think that.

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Speaker 6: I also bet they offered him the most money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's nice to be treated nice, but this

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Speaker 6: this guy wanted to be paid what he thought he

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Speaker 6: was worth, and I think the Philly has met that

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Speaker 9: And that's it.

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Speaker 5: They probably were battling with them, and they're probably battling

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Speaker 6: No question, I heard the Mets watch them, The Yankees,

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers, Red Sox were on them. All all your

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Speaker 4: Of course they were.

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Speaker 2: Smart move now the Phillies can still go out and

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Speaker 2: get that big late inning guy with you know. Last

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Speaker 2: Friday's episode, we talked about what twenty five thirty guys

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Speaker 2: potential trade names for the Phillies flow or no flow.

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Speaker 2: We fiuys, there's some guys that give you guys some

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Speaker 2: good flow. Felix Bautista Duran from Minnesota. Now you still

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Speaker 2: have some some You have all those chips to potentially

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Speaker 2: get one of those guys if if you know Orioles

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Speaker 2: want to trade them or the Twinkies.

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Speaker 3: The twinkies, Yeah, exactly, so.

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Speaker 4: Get some flow no flow?

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Speaker 3: The ball started here.

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Speaker 4: Bye.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, before you start, I gotta mention this. Can't

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Speaker 3: believe you almost forgot.

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, July twenty seventh. Show starts at eleven thirty.

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Speaker 3: It'll be great. So stop by that.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's let's talk Manco Manco Best Week.

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Speaker 3: Who wants to start.

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Speaker 2: Jamid Like remember Arnold Horseshack.

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Speaker 6: Schwaba going with had a great All Star game, won

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Speaker 6: On Saturday Night. Him and Harper combined for five home

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Speaker 6: He is a class actor. Was not at the game

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Speaker 6: I'm watching the postgame interview with Tom and John Kruk,

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Speaker 6: of the week for me, You got there, Todd.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna take Kyle Schwarber as well, coming

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna pile on. It was really either one

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Speaker 2: All Star Game MVP, Gay Phillies fans something cheer about,

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Speaker 2: then of course you know, the Big Grand Slam the

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Speaker 2: but tremendous week for Kyle Sharmer.

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Speaker 3: What about you, Reuben.

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Speaker 5: I'm going off the board and going with my man,

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Speaker 5: Bryce Harper. He has turned it on huge so por

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Speaker 5: Prior to yesterday's game, he was twelve for twenty four

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Speaker 4: In a six game period. Now he went over four

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Speaker 5: But I mean, this guy has been raking and ever

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Speaker 4: His ops is right around one thousand. I mean, he's

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Speaker 8: And if he can turn it on and be MVP

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Speaker 5: So Bryce Harper is my best of a week.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I mean, you know, you see you

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back, Uh, Phillies, get out, go out.

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Speaker 2: Sunday night, they reach and agreement with David Robertson is

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about another David Robertson compish guy. Right,

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Speaker 2: But I want to get your opinion on this, Jim,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned this at the beginning. Phillies are twenty and

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Speaker 3: It's not great. They are.

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Speaker 2: They've scored two or fewer runs and fifteen of those

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: They are twenty first in that span in home runs

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Speaker 3: He always said, you always talked.

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Speaker 2: About incremental improvements. You might not get CC Sabathia before

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Speaker 3: So you go on and win the division, and you

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Speaker 2: Do you guys have any thoughts on especially with Alec

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Speaker 5: I would agree with that, except I'm starting to change

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Speaker 5: guys that are super streaky, and you hope the streak

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Speaker 5: is going right when when you get them, because you're

443
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Speaker 5: not going to get like a bona fide. You're not

444
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Speaker 5: gonna get Manny Ramirez. He's not out there, okay, But

445
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Speaker 5: you might have to get a guy like Taylor Ward.

446
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Speaker 4: You might have to get that guy.

447
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Speaker 5: I wasn't big on him, but they need the right

448
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 5: handed bat that can that can scare somebody in a lineup,

449
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Speaker 5: and if you don't have some some kind of protection.

450
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Speaker 4: Castianos has had a decent year, but I don't think

451
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Speaker 4: that Bryce Harper.

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Speaker 5: I would if I'm if I am a opposing team

453
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Speaker 5: and there is a situation where Bryce Harper can beat me,

454
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 5: there is no way on.

455
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Speaker 4: Pitching that dude.

456
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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go after Castianos, especially with the way

457
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Speaker 5: it's constituted right now, and so that puts a really

458
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Speaker 5: big wrench. Now, Alec Bahm can drive in some runs

459
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 5: because he has the ability to put the ball in

460
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Speaker 5: play more consistently, and he's a tougher generally, a tougher

461
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Speaker 5: out than Castillanos, says. Castianos is a little bit more

462
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 5: free swinging. He's had a pretty good year this year,

463
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 5: but he's not a guy that would scare you in

464
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Speaker 5: the lineup such that he could protect Harper in the lineup.

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Speaker 4: I need to get a.

466
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Speaker 5: Guy now, I need to get a guy and so.

467
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Speaker 5: And I still think that they got to put all

468
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Speaker 5: their chips in. I would put all the damn chips in.

469
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Speaker 5: You want to know why, because there's teams that are

470
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 5: just not that damn good and everybody's got flaws, and

471
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Speaker 5: any team can win this World Series.

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Speaker 6: So you're talking, you're talking they're gonna have to give

473
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Speaker 6: up five prospects to get a bat and a and

474
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Speaker 6: a big reliever.

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Speaker 12: I'm talking at least three or four of them. Yes,

476
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Speaker 12: and I would do it. You know, maybe that's why, No,

477
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Speaker 12: I don't disagree.

478
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about it.

479
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Speaker 5: They have a chance to win, and if they don't win,

480
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to blow it up anyway.

481
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Speaker 2: You know what's so funny is like we've been talking

482
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Speaker 2: about this, how there's every team out there. The Dodgers

483
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: just got swept by the Brewers. Now the Brewers have

484
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: been had a really surprise in season. The Brewers have

485
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: swept the Dodgers all six games. They swept the season series.

486
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Speaker 2: You know, so like you know, the and the Dodgers

487
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago, I'd lost, gotten swept

488
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: like a back to back series.

489
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Speaker 3: So that's the Dodgers. They were supposed to win one

490
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: hundred and.

491
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Speaker 2: Twenty five games and and they're you know, so they're flawed.

492
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: The Phillies, we know all their flaws because we watch

493
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Speaker 2: them every single day. You know, the people in New

494
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: York with the Mets. Mets fans are saying, oh my god,

495
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: our team stinks. Cubs fans have their issues, you know,

496
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Speaker 2: Brewers fans listen.

497
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Speaker 3: I was just spent the last week in Wisconsin.

498
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Speaker 11: I know the Brewers.

499
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: I know the Brewers have issues as well, and concerns

500
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: as well.

501
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: Uh, talking to people there and uh so either you

502
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: go for it or again you don't go for it.

503
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Speaker 4: So you know at the Phillies does not dip your

504
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 4: toe in anymore. Man, I'm diving all the way.

505
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Speaker 6: All right, I've a angle. Boy has a question for

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Speaker 6: the general manager.

507
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Speaker 4: All right, Yes, the answer is yes, I traded him.

508
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Speaker 10: So no, do you do?

509
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Speaker 1: You do?

510
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 6: You go get a Suarez and you cement his butt

511
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 6: at third base and you let Bom heal, and when

512
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 6: Bom comes back, he and Harper split d H in

513
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 6: first base and Schwarber has to go to left field.

514
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 6: And and also do you send three big ones down

515
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 6: there to Baltimore for Bautista because you need you need him,

516
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 6: you need him too. Yes, Okay, so you better win

517
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 6: the World Series because you've just gutted the upper tier

518
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Speaker 6: of your training and two best A ball players you're training.

519
00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: Abel Miller, the centerfielder Cross, you're training tight andskebar.

520
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 6: Correct, all five of them, and maybe maybe Gene Cabrera

521
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 6: who having a pretty good year at double A.

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00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 4: Five of them trade them better win, just better win.

523
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Speaker 6: And I agree, it's all about winning at the major

524
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Speaker 6: league level. I just wish I had a crystal ball

525
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 6: to know if I am giving up all these pieces

526
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Speaker 6: that I am going to have a parade. If I'm

527
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Speaker 6: gonna have a parade, I'm doing it.

528
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Speaker 4: Is Suarez Suarez under control after.

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Speaker 6: This year's a free agent?

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Speaker 4: I do not, Then I don't, Then he's don't. He's

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Speaker 4: just one guy, Okay, one one really good.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about if you're gonna go get somebody, I

533
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 5: believe in getting people who you're gonna have control of Batista,

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Speaker 5: You have control of Correct two years.

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00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe.

536
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Speaker 3: I believe it's this year, next year, So then.

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Speaker 6: The Yankees, Yankees, I think you're gonna be on Suarez.

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00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 6: I mean, if you're Mike Haysen, are you on the

539
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 6: phone to Dave Dombroski already? Hey, I heard about Alec Bohm?

540
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: I would I would think so?

541
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 9: Right? Why not?

542
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

543
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 9: Why not? Why not?

544
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: The Phillies are just such in such a unique spot

545
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: as well, because you know, Schwarber's free agent, real mot

546
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: is a free agent, Swarz is a free ranger.

547
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: Swarz is a free agent.

548
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: And so yeah, if you don't go for it and

549
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: you fall short, say they say they get Felix Bautista,

550
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: but they don't get a bat, and again the bat,

551
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: the bat's fall short in the in the postseason or

552
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: down the stretch or whatever, and then you're gonna be

553
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: asking yourself. You know, they're gonna get killed for not

554
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 2: going out and addressing the addressing the lineup. I mean,

555
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: really does Harper said this this weekend? You know, the

556
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: twenty six guys in this clubhouse, I have to do

557
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: their jobs better. And that's you know, we've we've said

558
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: that all along as well.

559
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 6: But but there were maybe Suarez become maybe Suarez becomes

560
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 6: your d H when Bomb's back and Schwarber has to

561
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 6: go to left field. It's one less moving correct one

562
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 6: less moving one less moving part. Possibly, can I make

563
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 6: the argument at but Schwarber has to play left field.

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00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: In all of this and if I don't move, yes,

565
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: he does, and I'm okay with that. If they don't

566
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: happen to move Crawford, than the deal I bring him

567
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Speaker 4: to the big leagues.

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Speaker 5: Bring him to the big leagues and play him in

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Speaker 5: center field, because I do not like the idea of

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Speaker 5: having Castillanos, marsh and Schwarbur in that outfield.

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Speaker 4: That's a rough outfield.

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00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, you better that that those that right handed back

573
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 9: that you get better out slug. The possibilities of them

574
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 9: giving up a lot of runs in the outfield, how

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Speaker 9: much fascin It's not gonna be fascinating. It's gonna I

576
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 9: mean fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Do we think that Schwarburg can Swarbur be a better defender?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's obviously in tremendous shape and he's moving better.

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Speaker 2: Can he just be incrementally better than he was a

580
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Speaker 2: few years ago? I mean, he ranked as one of

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Speaker 2: the worst defensives out there, and I'll make the argument

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Speaker 2: that what they're getting right now in left field is

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00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: certainly offensive production wise for sure, but a defensively.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Kepler's played pretty.

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00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: Good outfield and left field, but it's not like they're

586
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: getting this amazing defense in left field where you're gonna

587
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: have a.

588
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: Dramatic, such a dramatic drop off defense. I mean, it's

589
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: going to be a drop off.

590
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: But I would stick the guy in left field.

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Speaker 8: If you can get a right handed bat, I put

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Speaker 8: him in right in left field, a big right.

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00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 4: Handed bat, somebody that's going to protect Bryce Harper.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, a big right handed bat correct him.

595
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the chips right on in there.

596
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 6: I need, I need to know he's not going to

597
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 6: be streaky. He's gonna have like, you know, like he

598
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 6: did in June. Yeah, James, it's it's very it's very intriguing,

599
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 6: very interesting, fascinating. It ain't necessarily the the two months

600
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Speaker 6: of defense you worry about, which forwards that it's that

601
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 6: one play in that one big game that can swing something.

602
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, but it's a big home run that

603
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 4: can swing it too.

604
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Speaker 13: It's the beauty of the baseball because not always the best,

605
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 13: the best team doesn't always win, like in the NFL,

606
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 13: or on a soccer Matt pitch, or you know, in

607
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 13: a basketball series, the best team typically wins, not a baseball.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of that, Taylor Ward and that what did you

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Speaker 6: think of that pitch to uh Trout, that three two pitcher?

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Speaker 5: That was very unfortunate that the pitch was not called

611
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Speaker 5: a strike. It is it will not happen next year

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00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 5: because that will be called.

613
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: Somebody.

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00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: I mean, somebody's gonna do that.

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00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 6: Yep.

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00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 5: And there were some lot of high pitches called on

617
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 5: Mike Trout, but they were all strikes the whole series

618
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 5: except that one.

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Speaker 4: And they crushed the Phillies today.

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00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 6: And Ranger had a great quote up to the game

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Speaker 6: because he was he was pretty hard on himself. Says

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00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 6: my command, he said, my command was awfully. That was

623
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 6: the one pitch I executed all day.

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00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny.

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00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 6: That's a great line, which wasn't exactly true. In the

626
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 6: first inning, he threw a couple beautiful uh you know,

627
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 6: paint brush you know, paint strokes with a paint brush

628
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 6: on the inside corner the writings. But he did have

629
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Speaker 6: a lot of trouble with his command, and that pitch

630
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 6: cost him five runs, and you're so right. Next year

631
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Speaker 6: doesn't happen.

632
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: What happens, doesn't happen, man Man Phillies Red Sox series

633
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 2: begins Monday night, six forty five pm Walker Buehler, who

634
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: struggled this year, against Zach Wheeler, Tuesday night six forty

635
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: five Richard Fits against Christopher Sanchez, and then Wednesday night

636
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: seven five pm Lucas Glito against Jesus Lozardo.

637
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 6: So Phillis Phillies need a good one from Zach Wheeler.

638
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because they have no bullpen.

639
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 6: This weekend against the Angels, they got four and a

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Speaker 6: third from Lozardo, four from Taiwan Walker, and four and

641
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 6: two thirds from Ranger. Nobody made it through the fifth inning.

642
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 6: This team's vaunted starting pitching was not good on the

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00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 6: first series out of the break. And you know, this

644
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 6: team's got enough little flaws that you don't want to

645
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 6: be seeing any little dents in the armor in that

646
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 6: starting pitching rotation. So they need to get back on

647
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 6: the horse. Monday Night Red Sox one thirteen out of sixteen.

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Speaker 6: You know, I follow them a little bit. They are

649
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 6: hungry team. They're playing hungry man baseball Philly's gotta, you know,

650
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 6: come out here and they gotta win Game one of

651
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Speaker 6: this series.

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Speaker 3: They absolutely do.

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Speaker 4: Amen, Absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 3: All right, We'll be back later this week with more Billies.

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Speaker 6: See you guys later, Smell you Leada Boys, Smelling Jim.

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