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Speaker 2: Not only do we have an AFC Championship game, we

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Speaker 2: have got controversy. Welcome in Patriots on the Move and

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Speaker 2: Carrie Rhoades. A controversial fourth down and one for the

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Speaker 2: Patriots was ruled a first down on a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Sneak in a toush push situation.

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Speaker 2: Drake May I think got a very favorable spot initially

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Speaker 2: from the officials. Sean Payton has challenged to play. They

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Speaker 2: say the call in the field stands man.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a terrible call. I thought he

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Speaker 4: was short. And again with this touch push in them

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Speaker 4: allowing you to continue to move when it's when your

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Speaker 4: four momentum has been stopped. It's just it's egregious. And

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Speaker 4: you watch these games, you watch these NFL games, and

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Speaker 4: you watch these head coaches. Right now, Dan, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm going to say. These guys passing points early

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Speaker 4: in the games, just come back to bite them. I

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Speaker 4: know you want to be aggressed, but I know you

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Speaker 4: want to put up points, but actually have been a

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Speaker 4: feel for the game. You're up seven to nothing, you're

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Speaker 4: a backup quarterback, came in and got a big play

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Speaker 4: to get you guys in the end zone early. You

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Speaker 4: take those ten points the way your defense is planned.

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Speaker 4: Now you're in a position where it's a tie game,

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Speaker 4: and now New England has a chance to take the lead.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's egregious coaching.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna get to that in a second. So

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Speaker 2: I knew Carrie was gonna be out of the gates

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Speaker 2: with Sean Payton's decision, but we do have to deal

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Speaker 2: with what the Broncos and Patriots are dealing with at

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Speaker 2: this moment. And there was a questionable play and now

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Speaker 2: it's going to be third and goal at about the

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Speaker 2: two yard line. Patriots got about five yards on their

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Speaker 2: first down play and Romandre Stevenson just caught a direct

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Speaker 2: snap that could have been could have been dangerous yep

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Speaker 2: for the Patriots. He was able to catch it with

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Speaker 2: one hand, but didn't get any yards. So it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a third and goal from the three yard line.

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Speaker 2: Drake May's legs are the only thing that is kept

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Speaker 2: New England in this game and could be on the

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Speaker 2: verge of maybe giving them the lead here, but this

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Speaker 2: is a crucial third and goal situation for New England.

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Speaker 2: Carry are you throwing it in the air? We're running it?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing in this sort of play?

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Speaker 4: Well, they going to try to throw the ball here

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Speaker 4: or a quarterback draw, but they dropped back and pass

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Speaker 4: it here. And now it's fourth and goal and you've

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Speaker 4: been aggressive, right now, what do you do? So again,

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Speaker 4: it seems like those fourth and ones aren't important, but

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Speaker 4: again they're not a guarantee you're going to score any

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Speaker 4: points anyway. So now we get to a fourth down here,

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Speaker 4: what are they going to do now? But yeah, they

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Speaker 4: got stopped on third down. Denver's defense have been playing well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Denver's defense has done a great job except

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Speaker 2: for the big play for Drake May in the touchdown run.

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Speaker 2: And he also had a scramble to help set up

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Speaker 2: this drive, which, by the way, this drive has been

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Speaker 2: the opening drive of the second half and it's gone

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Speaker 2: on for more than more than nine minutes. There's five

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Speaker 2: point thirty left in the third quarter and New England

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Speaker 2: has taken the three points and now was taken a ten.

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Speaker 3: To seven lead. But that is a simple.

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Speaker 2: Math does you more than a half of the quarter

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Speaker 2: and New England now is up ten to seven. So

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Speaker 2: let's go back to the point that you made on

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Speaker 2: the Sean Payton call that I think so many people

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Speaker 2: are going to be talking about. Obviously, if the Broncos

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Speaker 2: don't win this football game. It was a fourth down

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Speaker 2: and one about the fourteen yard line of New England

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Speaker 2: and nine minutes left in the first half, and on

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Speaker 2: a fourth and one play, you're saying to yourself, after

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Speaker 2: Jared Stidham scrambled to get them in a fourth and

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Speaker 2: short situation, that it just would have been a better,

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Speaker 2: better thought process, better situation, better outcome if Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: and the Broncos ended up kicking the field goal in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called endgame situational awareness. Dan, like you, Yes,

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Speaker 4: you can go into a game saying we're going to

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Speaker 4: be aggressive, we're going to go for it on fourth down,

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Speaker 4: We're going to be that team. But in the flow,

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Speaker 4: in the field of a game, that's why head coaches

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Speaker 4: make the big money, and that's why those decision makers

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Speaker 4: make the big money. Obviously, if you get the first down,

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Speaker 4: it's it's celebrated it's he's gutsy, he's They're gonna go

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Speaker 4: out and be aggressive. This is our game plan. But

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Speaker 4: the field of this game, your defense came out dominated.

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Speaker 4: You got a backup quarterback that hasn't started a game,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know how long this is, this first

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Speaker 4: bit more game pressure on New England to be to

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Speaker 4: open their offense up more and get a little bit

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Speaker 4: more aggressive and maybe cause a couple of turnovers here

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Speaker 4: and there. Like in game situational awareness is so huge,

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Speaker 4: and now you don't get the fourth down. Now New

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Speaker 4: England has momentum, and the momentum have shifted back into

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Speaker 4: their favor. Obviously still didn't do anything until the Stidham

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Speaker 4: turnover later, but yeah, you'll be up to nothing and

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Speaker 4: in the worst case scenario right now the game is

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Speaker 4: tied at ten.

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Speaker 2: Ten, you're going to be surprised by this. I thought

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Speaker 2: that they made the right CALLU Why, Yeah, here's the thinking.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking at this because it's the AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: If it was fourth and three, like New England just

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Speaker 2: had a fourth and goal from the three, like you're

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Speaker 2: not going forward in that situation. It was if it

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Speaker 2: was fourth and three for Denver, I think they kicked

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Speaker 2: a field goal. I didn't love the play call, and

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Speaker 2: it seemed like New England kind of knew what was coming.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that if you're Denver and you're

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Speaker 2: in this situation and you're up seven to nothing at

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Speaker 2: this time, you also have to realize that at some point,

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Speaker 2: while New England did not have any of their legs

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Speaker 2: they're going to make plays. So there's going to be

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Speaker 2: a play that they're going to benefit from. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not so sure on how many times Denver is going

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Speaker 2: to be down in that situation. And so on a

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Speaker 2: fourth and one, I was willing to take the risk

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Speaker 2: because then you're at the fourteen yard line. It's not

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Speaker 2: like they're at the thirty six of the thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: To take the risk to try to go up two

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Speaker 2: later on in the game could win it for you.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen points could be enough to win this game. And

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Speaker 2: I think at that point in the game, you're sitting

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Speaker 2: how do we get to twenty? Because that could be

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Speaker 2: I thought at that point with a fourth and one,

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Speaker 2: New England the football back, they're at least inside their twenty.

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Speaker 2: But also, Carrie, and this may sound backwards, I hope

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Speaker 2: you understand. I hope the listener understands what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how many opportunities they're going to

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Speaker 2: have to score touchdowns, and I think that that was

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Speaker 2: one of their better opportunities to do so. So that's

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Speaker 2: why I didn't mind it in that situation, like New

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Speaker 2: England was going to score points. They may not score

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Speaker 2: able to match at least the seven and maybe the

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Speaker 2: ten at that point where a touchdown really would have

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Speaker 2: gone a long way. So I actually agreed with the point.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't shocked that they went for it and they just

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Speaker 2: the next on the ensuing possession to force a punt back.

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Speaker 2: It was then the turnover by Stidham that did the

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Speaker 2: probably going to make a mistake, yes, so we got

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Speaker 2: to put ourselves in the best case scenario where if

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Speaker 2: he does make a mistake, it doesn't absolutely crush us.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's you know, compounding it. But I thought

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Speaker 2: it was the right decision.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I understand. I'm sure some people will

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Speaker 4: feel that way, and it's a good it's a great

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Speaker 4: rebuttal I just you know, I again, I'm not trying

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Speaker 4: to I've played in this game and I know how

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Speaker 4: important the details in the AFC Championship game is. Both

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Speaker 4: teams are going to be capable of winning this game

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Speaker 4: and scoring points, and you know they're going to make plays.

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Speaker 4: They're both good. I'm just you know, in the flow

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Speaker 4: you know, right or wrong decision, Like I think either

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Speaker 4: side will have a case, but the flow of the game,

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Speaker 4: the way this game started, and you said it like

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Speaker 4: New England started out slow and didn't have their legs

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Speaker 4: if you put points on the board and you and

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Speaker 4: it even though ten is not greater than fourteen. Ten

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Speaker 4: the mental part of that is okay. Now on offense,

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Speaker 4: we haven't been moving the ball. We're going to have

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Speaker 4: to spread this thing out and make some plays. If

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Speaker 4: you you you land right into what they do best.

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Speaker 4: They passed rush, they play really good coverage, and so

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Speaker 4: the mistakes will probably come in that moment. So that's

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Speaker 4: just my think in that scenario.

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Speaker 3: It was going to be talked about. It will still

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Speaker 2: We'll see if New England adds to the lead, if

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Speaker 2: Denver ends up coming back and winning this game, but

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Speaker 2: if the deficit remains what it is right now and

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Speaker 2: that's a three point game, then that decision is going

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Speaker 2: to haunt going to haunt Denver. I also thought it

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Speaker 2: was just interesting and the end of the the end

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Speaker 2: of the way that the end of the first half finished,

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Speaker 2: and for those that don't know, it was a seven

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Speaker 2: to seventh ball game at the half. But Denver had

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Speaker 2: an opportunity and Will Lutts missed a fifty four yard

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Speaker 2: New England. New England I thought got a very generous

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Speaker 2: by Drake May to allow them to attempt a sixty

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Speaker 2: three yard field goal. But you've got that call, and

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Speaker 2: now you've got you got three calls in this game

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Speaker 2: that have benefited New England in my mind. Now they

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Speaker 2: may have been and I'm curious in your opinion. I

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Speaker 2: think that I think that the fourth and short that

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Speaker 2: the first down in that scenario. I think that call

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Speaker 2: went against went against Denver. The Jared Stindham passes is

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Speaker 2: a crazy one because everything that I've heard carry about

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Speaker 2: open hand and where the ball goes where they initially

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Speaker 2: called it an incomplete pass and then they said it

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Speaker 2: was the fumble and that was the big turnover to

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Speaker 2: set up New England's that was originally ruled as an

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Speaker 3: That doesn't go Denver's way, that goes New England's way.

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Speaker 2: And then just even the slide at the end of

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Speaker 2: a lead on the long field goal I don't think

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Speaker 2: For me, Dan, it always comes back to taking the

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Speaker 4: A great play after I just say, we're not going

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Speaker 2: now New England has seized control of this game and

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Speaker 2: but if you can't see what is happening. There is

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Speaker 4: A lot of facts.

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Speaker 5: What you got to say, you're to say, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: Now. New England's going to have to attempt the kick here,

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Speaker 3: Interesting call on that third down.

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Speaker 2: I think they were just trying to get something, but

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Speaker 2: Bora Gallas, the sixty three yarder didn't have much of

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Speaker 4: Dan, Hey you go, Dan, No good, Dan, It's no good.

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Speaker 2: No good, And he pushed it to our left, his

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Speaker 3: He is carry Rhoads.

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer on Fox. Briana Mero is gonna have an

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Speaker 2: update for us in just a little bit. But the

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Speaker 2: Broncos good field. Well, I shouldn't say good field position.

439
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Speaker 2: They got to stop on the field goal, ended up

440
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Speaker 2: getting up to about their own forty yard line, had

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Speaker 2: a punt it away, and now New England will start

442
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Speaker 2: first in ten on their own twenty on a field

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Speaker 2: carry that CBS now has been forced to put their

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Speaker 2: own outline of the yardage lines because there is so

445
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Speaker 2: much snow in Denver between the Patriots and Broncos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Denver has been fortunate for a long time to

447
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Speaker 4: have really good weather, and now we got the usual

448
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Speaker 4: male high type of weather. The snow is coming down.

449
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Speaker 4: It's like I said, we can't even see it watching

450
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Speaker 4: on TV where they are markers are so now they

451
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Speaker 4: pulled out the fancy, the fancy graphic force.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned that this was a possibility that the forecast

453
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Speaker 2: was saying, as much, do you remember in playing a

454
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Speaker 2: race to the weather sort of game, get everything in corral,

455
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Speaker 2: the you know, get all the crops in before the

456
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Speaker 2: rain comes sort of deal, get this many points? You've

457
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Speaker 2: ever played in any of those games?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was a regular season game, and

459
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Speaker 4: it mattered for us. It didn't matter for them. They

460
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Speaker 4: weren't that good that year. But it was in Green Bay,

461
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Speaker 4: You're old stumping grounds, where we played a game where

462
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Speaker 4: we were on a four game winning streak and we

463
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Speaker 4: needed to win that game and win the next game

464
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Speaker 4: to get into the playoffs. We jumped out on them.

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Speaker 4: It was obviously it was negative before, it was cold

466
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Speaker 4: and snow was coming down light, but we knew it

467
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Speaker 4: was coming on as later in that Yeah, in the

468
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Speaker 4: second quarter, we got up early on them and end up, yeah,

469
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Speaker 4: just kind of salting the game away. And that's what

470
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Speaker 4: Denver should have did. Dan, I'm gonna go back to

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Speaker 4: it again now.

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Speaker 2: This is this is also for New England. Like ball,

473
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Speaker 2: security is of the utmost importance, and when they're backed

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Speaker 2: up in their own territory, it could have been. By

475
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Speaker 2: the way, the punt was so good for Denver that

476
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Speaker 2: I wondered if it was a coffin corner, but we

477
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Speaker 2: couldn't quite see on the angle and the official is

478
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Speaker 2: right there. They end up making the call. They called

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Speaker 2: it a touchback, but it very well could have been

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Speaker 2: New England starting at their own one yard line. Then

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Speaker 2: you would have a limited playbook and have to punt

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Speaker 2: in this weather if you were unable to get out

483
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Speaker 2: of it. But instead they get it first and twenty.

484
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Speaker 2: There's another break that went the way of the Patriots.

485
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Speaker 2: That wasn't the officiating, that was just the way that

486
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Speaker 2: the ball bounced. And then Romandre Stevenson on a first

487
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Speaker 2: down Kerry gets ten yards to give them a little

488
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Speaker 2: bit more breathing room out to about the thirty yard line.

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Speaker 2: But now, if you're New England, you're just holding on

490
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Speaker 2: for dear life for that football because a turnover here

491
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Speaker 2: almost seems like it's maybe the only way Denver can

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Speaker 2: get into this football have a chance in this football game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was watching Evan Washburn talk about give his

494
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Speaker 4: report and he doesn't have a hat on. I don't

495
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Speaker 4: know if he's a silver fox or is he blonde.

496
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Speaker 4: I'm confused. So that's how much snow is coming down

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Speaker 4: right now. But then, yeah, this game for the Patriots

498
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Speaker 4: is pretty simple right now. I mean, you got a

499
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Speaker 4: quarterback and an offensive never that can't really seems like

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Speaker 4: they can't get a drive going so and they've only

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Speaker 4: had the ball two times. So if New England can

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Speaker 4: just take care of the ball and run the ball

503
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Speaker 4: successfully like they did on first down here, they'll make

504
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Speaker 4: it extremely tough for Denver.

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Speaker 2: Again, this is a lot of Romandre Stevenson, and I

506
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Speaker 2: think that this plan for New England will tell you

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Speaker 2: what they do on a third and four here. Then

508
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Speaker 2: we'll go to the news desk with Brianda Mariro. She'll

509
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Speaker 2: give us an update of not only this game, but

510
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Speaker 2: what else is going on in the world of sports.

511
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Speaker 2: But this is a Patriots team that Romandre Stevenson missed

512
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Speaker 2: games during the regular season, and during that time, Traveon Henderson,

513
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Speaker 2: the rookie from Ohio State, burst onto the scene and

514
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Speaker 2: gave them kind of the home run hitter that they

515
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Speaker 2: had been looking for. And I never thought it was

516
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Speaker 2: New England's plan to turn over the backfield to Romandre Stevenson,

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Speaker 2: but I would say that I felt it was always

518
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Speaker 2: part of the plan to have a two headed monster, yeh.

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Speaker 2: And it actually hasn't been. It's been just Stevenson. Stevenson's

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Speaker 2: been the guy that they have trusted in these situations

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Speaker 2: and you're seeing it today with this contest and how

522
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Speaker 2: they want to run their offense with Ramondre Stevenson getting

523
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Speaker 2: a bulk of the carries nineteen compared to just three

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Speaker 2: with Travion Anderson So New England did go to one guy.

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Speaker 2: They went to their their veteran who you know, in

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Speaker 2: a game against Pittsburgh earlier this year, had a fumble

527
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Speaker 2: in a game that thet up losing at home, and

528
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Speaker 2: didn't lose any confidence in him. So quite a job

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Speaker 2: by Mike Rabel to to continue to believe in Romandre Stevenson. Well,

530
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Speaker 2: many people thought he was going to lose his job

531
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Speaker 2: because of the injury. Not only did he lose his job,

532
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Speaker 2: he's thriving even more and New England is taking full advantage.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad Drake go ahead, Dan. I was just gonna say,

534
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Speaker 2: Drake May was sacked on that third down and four,

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Speaker 2: So now New England's punted it back to Denver.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the Fumbland issue with

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Speaker 4: Stevenson because that's the same thing I was gonna kind

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Speaker 4: of touch on. So the fact that they've been able

539
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Speaker 4: to trust him in the playoffs and trust him in

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Speaker 4: this big situation, especially when the conditions aren't ideal, is

541
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Speaker 4: definitely trusting your guy. But also you know, being around

542
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Speaker 4: that guy every day and knowing his makeup and checking

543
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Speaker 4: the tenor of the team and going with the guys

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Speaker 4: that you trust. So obviously Rabel Steell in that coaching

545
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Speaker 4: staff still has confidence in him.

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Speaker 2: Something to watch here. There's eleven twenty nine left to go.

547
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Speaker 2: Denver is going to take over the football after the

548
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Speaker 2: punt Biden New England. They'll have it around their thirty

549
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Speaker 2: yard line. Actually it's right at the thirty yard line

550
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Speaker 2: first and ten for them. Each teams have two timeouts,

551
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Speaker 2: so in a situation if it gets where you need

552
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Speaker 2: to stop the clock. Each team has used a timeout

553
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Speaker 2: in this situation. And now with eleven twenty nine to go,

554
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Speaker 2: carry even if Denver scores here, they're going to take

555
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Speaker 2: a or has an opportunity to score, they're going to

556
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Speaker 2: take a significant amount of time off the clock because

557
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't think it would be a big play. So

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Speaker 2: when we talk about limited number of possessions for the

559
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Speaker 2: rest of the way, it makes this one at eleven

560
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Speaker 2: twenty nine in the fourth quarter very very important because

561
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Speaker 2: Denver's just going to have few opportunities to try to

562
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Speaker 2: pull even in this game, and with the way that

563
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Speaker 2: the conditions are, I just don't think you're going to

564
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Speaker 2: see any big plays unless there's a somebody falls down

565
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Speaker 2: or slippage or something like that. So key, key possession

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Speaker 2: is an understatement here for Denver.

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Speaker 4: I mean right now, the way this second half has gone,

568
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Speaker 4: I mean Denver may get the ball twice and so

569
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Speaker 4: this is a huge drive and I don't know if

570
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Speaker 4: they could drive the length of the field right now,

571
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Speaker 4: So I actually lean on it having to be a

572
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Speaker 4: big play and that would, like you said, a result

573
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Speaker 4: and probably a mistake by New England, but we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's gonna it's gonna be tough for them

575
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Speaker 4: to move the ball down the field. Their receivers are

576
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: dropping the ball. They not really been able to get

577
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Speaker 4: open and get separation. So you said it earlier. I

578
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: think Stidham is gonna have to use his legs. But

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Speaker 4: I don't know if New England in this situation is

580
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Speaker 4: gonna be put themselves in a man the manned situation.

581
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Speaker 4: So they're gonna try to probably force them to drive

582
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Speaker 4: the ball down the field. So it's gonna be it's

583
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Speaker 4: gonna be tough sledting for Denver at this point.

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Speaker 2: Jared Stidham hasn't been perfect, but there have also been

585
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Speaker 2: times where he hasn't gotten out from his wide receivers

586
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Speaker 2: in this in this game, we'll see if they can

587
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Speaker 2: come up big for him. Here, let's jump over to

588
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Speaker 2: the news desk Brianda Merrel Scott the latest of what's

589
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Speaker 2: going on in Denver and Seattle and everywhere else.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, breeth Hi guys.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So yeah, the Patriots are on top of the

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Speaker 8: Broncos ten to seven, eleven and a half minutes left

593
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Speaker 8: to go in the fourth quarter. Drake me eighty six

594
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Speaker 8: passing yards, sixty four rushing yards so far in a

595
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Speaker 8: rushing touchdown. On the other side, you're sit them one

596
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Speaker 8: hundred and twenty eight passing yards fourteen twenty five and

597
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Speaker 8: one touchdown later and or a guest in about an

598
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Speaker 8: hour from now, Dan Seahawks, the Rams will are gonna

599
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Speaker 8: be with the wow. So sorry, I got so distract.

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Speaker 3: That's how.

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Speaker 2: I feel your nerves.

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Speaker 8: I feel your nerves, Dan, I really do. And also

603
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 8: I was watching the game and so there's during the

604
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 8: last time out they were actually using snowblowers. So that's

605
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Speaker 8: what the video I was just watching right now on Twitter.

606
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Speaker 8: They're using snowblowers to try to do each yard line,

607
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 8: just like to make the snow go away, and it's

608
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Speaker 8: not even like really working that much. I think the

609
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Speaker 8: snow is just kind of coming down a little bit harder.

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Speaker 7: Anyways.

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Speaker 8: Other NFL news, the Giants are expected to hire former

612
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Speaker 8: Titans DC Denard Wilson as their defensive coordinator. He reunites

613
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Speaker 8: with John Harbaugh as he was the Ravens defensive backs coach.

614
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Speaker 8: In twenty twenty three, the Bills announced they completed their

615
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 8: head coaching interview with Jaggs O C. Grant Udinsky, and

616
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Speaker 8: the Packers are hiring former Arizona Cardinals head coach Jonathan

617
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Speaker 8: as their new defensive coordinator. In the NBA, two games

618
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 8: have been postponed due to inclement weather, the Nuggets at

619
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Speaker 8: Grizzlies and the Mavericks at Bucks. The Golden State Warriors

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Speaker 8: announced for where Jonathan Kamingo will be sidelined with the

621
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Speaker 8: bone bruise and his left knee. And on the court,

622
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Speaker 8: the Pistons are on top of the Kings one thirty

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Speaker 8: six to one fourteen a minute and a half left

624
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Speaker 8: to go in the fourth quarter, and in golf, Scotty

625
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Speaker 8: Scheffler has a four shot lead as they head down

626
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Speaker 8: the stretch at the American Express back to you guys.

627
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much, Britece Scheffler at twenty seven

628
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: under part they always go low in the desert. What

629
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Speaker 2: a way for world number one to start the PGA

630
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: Tour season in twenty twenty six. Yeah, tee it up,

631
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Speaker 2: go and win in the second The end of the

632
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: year went out, very typical. Scotty Scheffler will play. Let's

633
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Speaker 2: get back to the where the conditions aren't as nice,

634
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: and that is in Denver. R. J. Harvey got stuffed

635
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: on a second and one, kind of tried to do

636
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: a little too much, could have been much worse, but

637
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: didn't lose anything, didn't gain anything. But the Bronz was

638
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: able to cash in on the third in one call

639
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: and get a fresh set of downs. But still they

640
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: haven't crossed midfield and it's their first first down of

641
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: the second half. Carry just this gave us only seventeen points.

642
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: But there is so much in it because there is

643
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: so much at stake for you know, a trip to

644
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, I mean, Sean Payton's coaching legacy. If

645
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: you can win this game with Jared Stidham as your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it last week. I know we felt

647
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Speaker 2: that he would he would really sort of you know,

648
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Speaker 2: love to be in this situation and and and time

649
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: is coming down. But that's that's why we love these playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean all these these situations matter, man, And

651
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: I mean every yard, every inch you have to fight for.

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Speaker 4: Both teams are poised to make a Super Bowl appearance

653
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Speaker 4: and are worthy of being here. And you know, it

654
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: comes down to the details, Dan, details and mistakes obviously,

655
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: because you're going to make players. You're going to execute

656
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: you know a lot, because you're really good teams. But

657
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: the team that turns it over and make the mistakes

658
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: or makes the the coaching blunder usually loses in these games.

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Speaker 4: And so right now, I mean, this is a big

660
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: This is not even a big drive. This is this

661
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: is this is the biggest drive of their season.

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Speaker 2: Right here.

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00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 4: You got a chance to go down and put points

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Speaker 4: on the board or score touchdown to win, to get

665
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Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl. Steadham backup quarterback, came in confident.

666
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: You know this. These are the things that you will

667
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: talk about for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: You can't see the Broncos logo at midfield like that

669
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Speaker 2: is that is the playing conditions that they are dealing

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Speaker 2: with right now, and the Broncos are near midfield, they're

671
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Speaker 2: at the forty three, their own forty three yard line,

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00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: and there is a there's supposed to be a Bronco

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Speaker 2: at the fifty yard line, and they are just showing

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Speaker 2: an aerial shot. And only if you are looking for it, Carrie,

675
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: only if you are looking for the Broncos logo, would

676
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: you be able to decipher what is actually underneath that snow.

677
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: There is there is no way to go to determine

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00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: what is where here any inbounds call. That's what you

679
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: know talking about blowing the snow off the field. As

680
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: we was talking about, they're doing it for the sideline,

681
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: so you have an opportunity to see the sidelines. But

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00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how much help that's gonna that's gonna

683
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: do in this situation. I mean, it's it's whatever call

684
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: in the field field position wise is likely going to

685
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: stand because I had no idea how you'd be able

686
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: to overturn it with these conditions. Yeah.

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00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: No, it looks like to feel the cost the street

688
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: from my house where we played in and when in

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00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: the snowy conditions, whenever it was snow in Alabama, which

690
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: was very occasionally very rare, which is happening right now.

691
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: We would go across the field and line it up

692
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: and make lines with with our with our with our

693
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 4: foot and kind of draw away in the sand. And

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00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: that's kind of what it looks like right now, backyard

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Speaker 4: football right now, Dan on.

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Speaker 2: A third and ten, Denver only got four yards on

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Speaker 2: a completion, so they're gonna punt it away to New England.

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00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: Eight twenty five left to go in this contest, and

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00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a first and ten for the Patriots

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00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: inside their own and nine yard at the nine yard

701
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: line is where they will have the football, so Denver

702
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: able to pin him back in this scenario, and the

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00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: chess game continues between the Broncos and Patriots in a

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00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: ten to seven AFC Championship game. He is carry Rhoads.

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00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: get Carry's thoughts on that coming up in about twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes or so. But coming up next, it was an

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Speaker 2: anniversary this week, twentieth anniversary of a huge, huge milestone

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Speaker 2: in the world of sports. We reflect on that and

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Speaker 2: so many milestones.

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Speaker 3: Next.

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Speaker 2: He's carry on, Dan its end Zone Radio on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's Championship Sunday at end Zone Radio. He's carry Roads.

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00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Beyer. This is where we're at six twenty

728
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Speaker 2: and counting. Patriots up on the Broncos in the fourth

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00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: quarter ten to seven. Denver, though has the football in

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00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: New England territory. It is.

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Speaker 3: Rough sledden pun intended for these teams.

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Speaker 2: Carry as the field is now covered blanketed by snow as.

733
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: This is taken over the entire second half of this game.

734
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: First half was fine played in I guess darn near

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00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: perfect conditions for late January in Denver, but now a

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Speaker 2: snowstorm has hit.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you'd want to call.

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00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: It a blizzard, but for as quickly as this field

739
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: is covered up, it is snowing hard in Denver, and

740
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 2: the Broncos now a third and twelve on the New

741
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: England thirty five yard line. Such an interesting play call

742
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 2: situation here, because you can't think that a fifty two

743
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: yard field goal is makeable in these conditions.

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00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: No, it is a blizzard, Dan, it's not DQ, it's

745
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: not Dairy Quainton. But Jared Stidham, obviously you talked about

746
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: it earlier where he's gonna have to use his legs.

747
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: They called a screen pass here. It was covered so

748
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: he was able to make a play here to get

749
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: them a little bit closer for a field goal attempt.

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Speaker 4: But as we saw in that punt, it's going to

751
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: be tough sledding.

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00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna the plant foot in that and Denver was

753
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: set up with great field position because New England's punt

754
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: ended up only going about and netting them about twenty

755
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: five yards thirty yards on the punt as it was

756
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: kind of shanked out of bounds. So now Will Lutz

757
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 2: is on the field to attempt a forty five yard

758
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: field goal, and I's this is just this is tough sledding.

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00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: I mean it is, and it was long enough, but

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00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: it is no good. It actually had a good a

761
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: bit of a chance nts. But Will Watson now has

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00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: missed his second field goal of the game. Carrie probably

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00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: wonders if it should have been one for three, right,

764
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: that would have tied it for Denver. So now only

765
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: does Denver miss out on the points, they give New

766
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: England at least respectable field position, where on the previous possession,

767
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: romanre Stevenson lost his footing about to get a handoff

768
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Speaker 2: and it was almost a disaster for New England. If

769
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: they would have turned the ball over and the Broncos recovered,

770
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Speaker 2: it would have been Denver football inside the five yard line.

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00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 4: Dan he didn't even miss that when Dan it got blocked, oh,

772
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: deflected off of a hand and that's what sent it.

773
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: So it was a clean kick. What's crazy about that

774
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: is New England didn't even pressure much. You didn't even

775
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: see a full on, full on block in that scenario.

776
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: They only sent a couple of guys, And while you

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00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: are right, Carrie deflected. So now it's first and ten

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00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: for New England at their own thirty five yard line,

779
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: so we're forty two left to go. The Broncos only

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00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: have two timeouts. Two first downs here, Carrie would, I

781
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: would say, would seal the deal for the Patriots, because

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00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 2: I don't think Denver, if they got the football back,

783
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: would be able to score in two minutes, even if

784
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: they got it at a two minute warning situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, two first downs here woul definitely put this game

786
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Speaker 4: on ice. But man, it is tough out there. Like

787
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: you said, I mean, it wasn't even an all out

788
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: pressure by New England. The kick had to be low

789
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: for him to drive it through these conditions and all

790
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: you got to do is get a hand up sometimes,

791
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 4: and that's what happened on that plant.

792
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: So in New England now facing a second and eight

793
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: from the thirty eight yard line, we will tell you

794
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: what transpires in that game as the Patriots and Broncos

795
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: are going down to the wire. We do have Brandon

796
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Speaker 2: muro at the news desk, and since Monty is not

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00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: in today, Monzy Bologos celebrating her birthday today, So a

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00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: very happy birthday to Moncey Belanos. We're bringing in Breeze's

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Speaker 2: own segment to call it Breeze three. Don't I sound better?

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Speaker 4: Not one, not two, but three.

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Speaker 2: Spurs.

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Speaker 9: It's entertainment, it's good word.

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00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: It's Breeze three.

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00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: All right? Bree is a Patriots face, a third down

805
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: and nine clock still ticking in Denver?

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00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: Three point thirty? What's Breeze three all about?

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00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 7: Alrighty?

808
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 8: Just like you mentioned before, we had hit the break.

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00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 8: It was a twenty year anniversary of Kobe Bryant's eighty

810
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 8: one point game against the Rafters, and it got me

811
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Speaker 8: thinking of like historical moments that we've all kind of

812
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 8: like witnessed in our favorite right. So I'm not a

813
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 8: Lakers fan, but Kobe's retirement in twenty sixteen against the Jazz,

814
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 8: that game was very memorable for me. So that's my

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00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 8: first one. I'm a Saints fan. So Drew Brees breaking

816
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 8: the all time NFL passing record against the Washington you

817
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 8: know together the other name I don't want to say,

818
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 8: in twenty eight so he threw that pass to trey

819
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 8: Quan Smith, very very memorable for me, very emotional. And

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 8: in two thousand and six. Also, I'm the Saints Fans's

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00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 8: Steve Gleason. The blocked punt against the Falcons on Monday

822
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Speaker 8: night and that whole thing with Hurricane Katrina. It was

823
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Speaker 8: a very moving, emotional moment. So those are my three

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Speaker 8: and Dan, I'll actually throw it over to.

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Speaker 2: You, all right, And I could tell you that New

826
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: England didn't do anything on the third ouns, so they're

827
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: gonna punt it back to Denver.

828
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: So the Broncos will have the football.

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Speaker 2: They call the time out, three thirty left to go,

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00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: Denver will have the football down three. I gave you

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Speaker 2: my first super Bowl memory. The first super Bowl that

832
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: I remember happening was Bengals forty nine ers in Detroit.

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00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: This was Super Bowl sixteen. I that's the first. I

834
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: don't remember super Bowl fifteen between the Eagles and Raiders,

835
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Speaker 2: but my first Super Bowl memory was Bengals forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned Kobe's eighty one because on that

837
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: day the Seahawks advanced to their first Super Bowl. That

838
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: was the big story of the day until Kobe had

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Speaker 2: eighty one later on that night against the Raptors. But

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00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: the Seahawks beat the Panthers to go to the Super

841
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: Bowl in the NFC Championship. My all time favorite memory

842
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: my one of one when Ohio State won their first

843
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: national championship as the underdog, beating the Miami Hurricanes to

844
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: claim the two two thousand and two College Football title.

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Speaker 4: Those are my three, Man, my three, I like those, Dan,

846
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: my three. I mean the number one for me was

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00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: that lasting imageand it was two thousand and six. First

848
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: he failed. He came back twenty eleven season and toppled

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Speaker 4: the King. It was Dirk running off the court a

850
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: little bit before the game ended in Game six of

851
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: the NBA Finals. I mean, he was super emotionally got

852
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: Everybody said he wouldn't get back to that point and

853
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 4: have a chance to win another championship. He took a

854
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 4: team of older guys, veteran guys that had success in

855
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: the league but it was kind of counted out and

856
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: beat Miami's Big three. That was my number one moment

857
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: for me so far. And then number two would be

858
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: a guy coming off hiatus for a year and a

859
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: half and in his fifth game in Madison Square Garden

860
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: putting up fifty five against the Knicks. And that would

861
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: be Michael Jordan returning for the Bulls wearing number forty

862
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 4: five to beat New York and score fifty five points.

863
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 4: And that was a huge one for me as well.

864
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 4: And the third one a little bit of a Homer

865
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 4: situation obviously, but it was it was a kid that

866
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: got drafted two thousand and five. He played safety, you know,

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Speaker 4: he came in the fourth round pick, didn't know if

868
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: he's going to start, end up starting his first game

869
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 4: as an NFL player in Kansas City against the Chiefs.

870
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 4: My first moment that was me Carrie Roads all right

871
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: in Kansas City.

872
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a that's a great way to end it.

873
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: I know we had Christian Shay, but I do have

874
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: to tell everybody that the Patriots punted it back to Denver.

875
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: Broncos have it now, second and nine at their own

876
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: thirty three, getting just a yard on the previous play Denver. Yeah,

877
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to get in the field goal range

878
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be difficult with just one time out

879
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: snow Field covered entirely with snow, with the football at

880
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: their own thirty three yard line with the Patriots up

881
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: ten to seven on Denver in the fourth quarter of

882
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: this AFC Championship game, and now Jared Stidham has just

883
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: thrown an interception to Christian Gonzales. The Patriots also close

884
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Speaker 2: to Super Bowl sixty. Will tell if they wrap it

885
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Speaker 2: up next. He's carry I'm Dan. It's end Zone Radio

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Speaker 2: You probably could hear the sarcasm in the voice of

892
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Speaker 2: Chris Pofed at the news desk as Drake May scrambled

893
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: for a third down or on a third down for

894
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Speaker 2: a first down. And the Patriots are now taking a

895
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: knee as they are watching the clock tick down on

896
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Speaker 2: their way to Super Bowl sixty, and it would be

897
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: their first Super Bowl appearance since Super Bowl fifty three.

898
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: When the Patriots beat the Rams in Atlanta. Will we

899
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: see a Super Bowl rematch or will we see a

900
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: Super Bowl rematch of Super Bowl forty nine with the

901
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: Patriots and Seahawks. That will be determined later on today.

902
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: Welcome in. He is Carrie Rhoades. I'm Dan Byer. Today's

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Speaker 2: best clean pants down. It was Jared Stidham's interception by

911
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales that allowed the Patriots to work on this

912
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: clock and ultimately milk it down where they will take

913
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: one more knee and then they will be AFC champions

914
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: heading to Super Bowl sixty in two weeks in Santa

915
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: Clara and Carrie, I don't blame Stidham on the past.

916
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos were going to need a chunk play

917
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: at some point. Doing it early rather than later at

918
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: least maybe gave them another life if it ended up

919
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: being a scenario where it was intercepted. But ultimately New

920
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: England ends up winning the game ten to seven, and

921
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: Denver's going to think of how many opportunities they had

922
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: in this contest. Bo Nix is going to be wondering

923
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: what if. But the Patriots advanced to their twelfth Super

924
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: Bowl by beating the Broncos ten to seven.

925
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 4: What a great season by New England. I mean, obviously,

926
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people picked him to

927
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 4: be second in the AFC as far as the rankins

928
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 4: were going going into the season. You know, I told

929
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: you that I thought that they would make the playoffs

930
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 4: and definitely take a leap, but to say they were

931
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: going to be in the championship in the Super Bowl,

932
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: nobody would have expected that. Drake May has been awesome

933
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: this year. And let's talk about Rabel. Vrabel did such

934
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 4: a remarkable job with this team and obviously had a

935
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: lot of values, great values as a head coach. We

936
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 4: saw him have success in Tennessee and then he brings

937
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: that it takes a year off, comes back to New

938
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: England where he played, and now has that team in

939
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: the championship. Then, and I mean, obviously you talked about

940
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: Denver here, so many opportunities and this game alone, obviously

941
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 4: bow Knicks would have been better in these conditions because

942
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: of what we talked about earlier, being able to extend

943
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: plays with his feet and make plays on the ground,

944
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 4: but they didn't have that. And you know, you got

945
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: to play with the play with the cards you're dealt,

946
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: and so you just got to give a lot of

947
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: credit New England here.

948
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: There is there's gonna be a lot of talk about

949
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: that that first that fourth down play in the first half,

950
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: and I actually carry not to bring it up again,

951
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: but I think I think that there is there is

952
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: reason to be critical of Sean Payton, but I don't

953
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: think that that's the spot to do it. And the

954
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: reason being is as the second half is transpired and

955
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: how the game ended up playing out and Denver having

956
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: two missed kicks one from fifty four yards out another

957
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: one from about forty five forty six yards out that

958
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: you know Carrie pointed out was deflected by a New

959
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: England player along the defensive line and outstretched hand just

960
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: was able to guide the ball and it ended up

961
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: putting it on a trajectory that was outside of the uprights,

962
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: and New England was able to hold on to their

963
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: three point lead. As we look back in hindsight, if

964
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: they make it, it's ten to ten. I don't know

965
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: if if Denver's going to have another opportunity, But now

966
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 2: it goes to the point why I thought they should

967
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: have gone is you're not suing how many opportunities you're

968
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: gonna have in that situation, And I guess we both

969
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: can make the same argument, but I think that's why

970
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: they went for it, because guess what if they score?

971
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: If they're up to scores and let's say this weather

972
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: does come in like it did in the second half,

973
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: like Denver?

974
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: Is it a Denver?

975
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Is it a prime spot with a backup quarterback to

976
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: be up to touchdowns? And I just I don't think

977
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: that the field goal in that situation was gonna make

978
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: or break. And we can say now that they lost

979
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: by three, but Denver would have had to score at

980
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: least again in this game at some point, and it

981
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: seemed that New England had more of an opportunity to

982
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: score than Denver once the conditions turned bad, So there

983
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: was no guarantee they were going to win the game

984
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: if they kicked the field goal and made it in

985
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: that scenario. I think that's why Sean Payton went And

986
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: I actually think the way that this game played out

987
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: should vindicate him for at least trying to go for

988
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: it on fourth and one.

989
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, S'm Peyton would never be vindicating in my mind, Dan,

990
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: you know that's this is who he is anyway. So

991
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: it's not like there's a deviation from his game plan

992
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: and who he is. It's not like he stepped into

993
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: this game and went foot on fourth down and that

994
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 4: was an unusual thing. So for him, he's gonna stand

995
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: by that. That's not And again it's you can criticize

996
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: its all you want, and then I'm not only criticizing

997
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: that play. It's because obviously a lot of people will.

998
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: But I mean that's who he is anyway, And I

999
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 4: told you throughout the season, just in random regular season

1000
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: games he does it and puts his team behind the

1001
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 4: eight ball. So I mean it's just kind of it's

1002
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 4: just kind of status quo with him for me in

1003
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 4: this situation. But in these games, like points are so

1004
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: hard to come by, you got two defenses that are

1005
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: coming in playing really well. You got a chance to

1006
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: come up and be up by two scores with the

1007
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 4: way your defense play and the way their defense plays,

1008
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: so that means you might not get a lot of

1009
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 4: a lot more opportunities either. You got to back up guy,

1010
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 4: So when the points present themselves, that's just why I mean,

1011
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: that's just that's my whole mindset, Like you gotta take

1012
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 4: those points.

1013
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: I would you agree with me, though, and I'm not

1014
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: even asking for an olive French. If you don't, that's fine. Yeah,

1015
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: that's not the most most important play of the game.

1016
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: The most important play of the game was Jared Stidham's

1017
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: incomplete pass that was ruled the fumble, and ultimately, when

1018
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: we look back at this game, because that's a scenario

1019
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: where Stidham, who's trying to make sure that he doesn't

1020
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: do the worst thing in the world, does the worst

1021
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: thing in the world. And even when you're thinking to yourself, Okay,

1022
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: I can get this pass off and it's incomplete, we

1023
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: don't lose this yardage because they've already backpedaled, They've already

1024
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: lost us, you know, fifteen yards in trying to allude,

1025
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: you know, to evade the sack. He's thinking, oh my gosh,

1026
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: I've put us in worst case scenario. No worst case

1027
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: scenario is turning it over, yes, and that's what he

1028
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: did in that scenario, and him just letting go of

1029
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: the football brought in the opportunity for the officials to

1030
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: either call it a fumble or not call it a fumble,

1031
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: or in this case, they're saying it was a fumble

1032
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: as it was a backwards pass and as it first

1033
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: appeared on the play in the first half, I didn't

1034
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: think it was a backwards pass. The officials ruled it

1035
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: intention grounding because they thought it was a forwards pass

1036
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: when they went back looked on the replay or at

1037
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: least had the discussion because that was the rule, or

1038
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: that was the message that the officials gave us. Alex

1039
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: Kemp was the officials saying that after conversation, the officials

1040
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: are ruling in a backwards pass and then a fumble,

1041
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: then ultimately upheld by replay because it was a turnover.

1042
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: But that's the play.

1043
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 2: You couldn't give New England the football inside the red

1044
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: zone in a game where Denver's defense was dominating early.

1045
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: At some point New England was going to do something.

1046
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: You didn't need to do them any favors, and Denver

1047
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: Insteadham did at that point. That's the most important play

1048
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: by far of the SFC Championship.

1049
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you on that for sure. I mean,

1050
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: even with all that being said in the field goal,

1051
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: not taking the points obviously, if you look at it

1052
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: right now, ten to seven, you take the points. But

1053
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: that was the play that gave New England they're only

1054
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: touchdown this game, and we talked about Denver's defense. They

1055
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: did all they could you give New England, and Drake

1056
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: made a ball in the red zone. They're the high

1057
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: probability they're going to get They're going to get one touchdown.

1058
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: So that was the difference for sure.

1059
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: I think I just think that that Peyton, rightly or wrongly,

1060
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: will be the easy target with that and maybe he

1061
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: didn't do it good enough job coaching it into Jared

1062
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: Stidham's head. They like that would be that would be

1063
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: the fault, and that would be the responsibility you'd have

1064
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 2: to take be as a head coach to just don't

1065
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: do anything stupid or silly with the football. The interception

1066
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: that he had at the end of the game, they're

1067
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: just trying to throw it up for a big play

1068
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 2: because there was no way they were going to drive

1069
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: down the field. Underthrew Marvin Mims on that play and

1070
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales had an easy interception that that is completely understandable.

1071
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: I just there's just no way to explain away because

1072
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: it's such a momentum shift and it gave like when

1073
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: New England stopped Denver on the fourth and one again,

1074
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: now New England's on their own fourteen to fifteen yard line.

1075
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: They punted it back to Denver. Denver got the stop

1076
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: that New England didn't go down and score. New England

1077
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: didn't have half of a field because of the call

1078
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: that Peyton made in that in that scenario they got

1079
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: to stop. It was then on that next possession that

1080
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: Stidham ends up turning it over that allows New England

1081
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: to get in the game. And credit to New England

1082
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: for having the nine minute drive out of the locker

1083
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: room and all of a sudden you kicked the kick

1084
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: the field goal. I mean, they had a first goal

1085
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: at the seven, had its second and goal from the

1086
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: three yard line. They maybe could have cashed it in,

1087
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: didn't settled for the three and that ultimately was the difference.

1088
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: But when you were talking about a game that has

1089
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: just got such high stakes, there are always certain plays,

1090
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, a handful of plays that will decide the game.

1091
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 2: Talk about the field goal all you want, talk about

1092
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: the you know I mentioned earlier in the game this

1093
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: spot on the drake may fumble or excuse me, the

1094
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: spot on the drake may fourth down run yep, that

1095
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: allowed them to kick that field goal. That's going to

1096
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: be another one that's talked about quite a bit, and

1097
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: why that was actually ruled the first down when he

1098
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: didn't appear to get it. I think Denver's going to

1099
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: be talking about that one for a while. But ultimately

1100
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: it's Jared Stidham not turning the football over because if

1101
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: you don't turn the football over there, I think your

1102
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: defense is a good chance to hold New England to

1103
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: maybe three instead of giving them seven points in that possession.

1104
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and all the things you just said, Dan is

1105
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: so true, because we talked about it. Everything matters in

1106
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 4: this point, right. You don't want to be the guy

1107
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 4: or the team or the culture or the player that

1108
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: you know makes makes the game breaking mistake in these games.

1109
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 4: And so Stidham, I thought he played admirable. I thought

1110
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: he was decent, But you cannot give that turnover up.

1111
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: Trying to not give a turnover up, you know what

1112
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 4: I mean, It's like, just just take the sack man.

1113
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: You guys are playing well. Punt the ball back defense

1114
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 4: has been you know stout, they're not getting up any

1115
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 4: yards and he plays and it's hard because you know

1116
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 4: he's just trying to trying to avoid the disastrous play,

1117
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: but ended up making the disastrous play. So sucks for

1118
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: him because he started out really well.

1119
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: Throwing the football away seems like it's the smart play, yep, right, yep.

1120
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: And and then that situation with the pressure that you're getting,

1121
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: it was a it was a risky play, yea. And

1122
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: it was It was a play, and it was risky

1123
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: carry when you think about the stakes of it, like

1124
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: sometimes we'll get a guy drop back to pass, he

1125
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: won't leave the pocket and he'll just sail one out

1126
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: of bounce and nobody will be there.

1127
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: That's a boneheaded play. This isn't boneheaded.

1128
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: This is a guy who's in that spot that hasn't

1129
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: been there a lot, thinking what he is doing is

1130
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: limiting the damage. He is thinking that his action of

1131
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: trying to just get rid of the football is going

1132
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: to save the Broncos the fifteen yards that in his

1133
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: mind at that point, they couldn't afford to lose because

1134
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: of his own mistake of running backwards instead of maybe

1135
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: just turtling and taking a sack and taking eight yards

1136
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: and punting it away, which is probably the best play.

1137
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: He's thinking he's making a play and he's going to

1138
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: be doing something good and then it ends up like

1139
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I thought it was a forward pass. I did,

1140
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: and I haven't seen I've seen a couple of views

1141
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: on it now. I'm not saying that the officials got

1142
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: it wrong, because they obviously had to review it, and

1143
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: they've gotten reviews wrong before four.

1144
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: But I was just surprised at the process that it took.

1145
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: That it was called an incomplete pass intentional grounding on

1146
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: the field, and then after a conversation it was ruled

1147
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: as a backwards pass and we never got a great

1148
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: look at it, just like we never got a great

1149
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: explanation on the fourth and one that would have kept

1150
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: New England off of the.

1151
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: Scoreboard with the three points.

1152
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: That's why that stop was so crucial because it was

1153
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: a seven to seven ball game and if they stopped

1154
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: Drake may on that push push sort of play, Denver's

1155
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: just back to getting the football now and an even

1156
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: Stephen game and everything is up for grabs instead of

1157
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: New England taking that ultimate lead.

1158
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a tough one, that one right there.

1159
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 4: I mean I looked at it live and thought it

1160
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 4: was short obviously as well, and I think the important

1161
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 4: thing to note here is they called it the first

1162
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 4: down on the field, so trying to overturn it you

1163
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't be able to do that. So I think

1164
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: that's the part that comes into play here as well,

1165
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: because if they called it short, we probably have a

1166
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 4: different different discussion right now, because I don't think you

1167
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 4: could overturn it either way.

1168
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: I just there's got to be a better way, right

1169
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: Like this is the I mean, you know, just in

1170
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: trying to like figure out forward progress because there was

1171
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: wasn't there a situation earlier this year in an Eagles

1172
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: game where Jalen hurts his forward progress was deemed not

1173
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: done and then he ends up getting more yardage after

1174
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: the fact that there's I just there's a massive humanity

1175
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: and there is no way that I think an official

1176
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: on the field has a better look than a camera

1177
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 2: that is completely overhead. And I know it's inconclusive, Carrie,

1178
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: So the spot on the field has to stay, it

1179
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: has to remain. But I'm sitting here watching this and

1180
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: I just brought it up on my computer, And if

1181
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: you're driving, please don't look it up on your phone.

1182
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: Just keep the two hands on the wheel. But when

1183
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: you watch this play, and you watch this overhead shot

1184
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: of this fourth down sneak Drake may I don't know

1185
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: how any official. By the way, there is no official

1186
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: in the picture. There is no referee, there is no

1187
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: line judge, there is no umpire in this overhead shot

1188
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: of finding where Drake may is. And if you were

1189
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: to watch the camera spot and find out exactly where

1190
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: Drake may I get stopped his momentum, he would not

1191
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: have gotten the first down. Yep. And somehow the official

1192
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: who's nowhere near the pile but can run in five

1193
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: seconds after the play has ended, and Drake may could

1194
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: move the football or anybody could move him forward. That's

1195
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: where it's spotted. Like this is I understanding conclusive evidence.

1196
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: But this is more conclusive than any official would have

1197
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: on the field. So if we're not going to use

1198
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: this as a portion of replay, that's another reason to

1199
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: maybe why should we have it at all. It just

1200
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: I think that I think Denver really got screwed on

1201
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: that fourth down call.

1202
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah no, it's I don't know, Danny, the rules and

1203
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: all these cameras and all the things. Just imagine in

1204
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 4: the olden days when you just had to just take

1205
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 4: a just guesstimate where it was, so no telling how

1206
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 4: many of those were wrong back in the day, but

1207
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 4: you know they're trying to figure it out. I don't

1208
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 4: know what the answer is to this as well, but

1209
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 4: I know they try to do the virtual thing as well.

1210
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: But I don't know. Dan, you your your guests would

1211
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 4: be better than mine because you're really good at these, uh,

1212
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: these kind of offshoot, off shooting things.

1213
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just I just don't know. It's to me,

1214
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: it just is. It's it's pretty crazy, and ultimately that

1215
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: was the play that ended up decidning it. What's interesting

1216
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: is Adam Vina Terry is about to hand Robert Kraft

1217
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: the championship, the Lamar Hunt Trophy for the for winning

1218
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: the AFC, And what is what just reminded me of

1219
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 2: this is it's why it can't feel bad for Will

1220
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: Lutts because Adam Vanniterry kicked the forty five yarder and

1221
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: I think a worse blizzard in the Tuck Rule game, yeah,

1222
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: you know, to force that overtime, which then he ultimately

1223
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 2: kicked the game winner on a much shorter field goal,

1224
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: But forty five yards in those conditions was a heck

1225
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 2: of a kick by an invinitary and the Broncos had

1226
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: an opportunity. They had forty five forty six yards from

1227
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: Lux and he ended up missing it in in addition

1228
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: to the fifty four yard or that he lost. But

1229
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: oh what could have? Would have should have for the

1230
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. And now the Patriots are back of the

1231
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

1232
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: Well, Dan, you know, like you know the Broncos where

1233
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: your your pick to get to the super Bowl and

1234
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: they failed. Now we got this next game coming up

1235
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 4: that I have a pick that's still in it and

1236
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 4: has a chance to make it. I hope, I hope,

1237
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: we hope we're not two for two. I know we're

1238
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: going to be enemies as this game, all right, I

1239
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: hope we are. I hope we are two for two.

1240
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 4: I hope you don't know you are right?

1241
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, Kerry, I'm sure today that is not going

1242
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: to happen. Oh man, Adam Kapp what our Fox Sports

1243
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: Radio NFL in Sadder will join us. We'll talk about

1244
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: this AFC Championship game and then once ahead in the

1245
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: NFC as well. We haven't been able to touch really

1246
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: on ram Seahawks because of all the drama that's going on.

1247
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: In Denver. Plus, Pittsburgh has hired Mike McCarthy's the new

1248
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: head coach. Bills are still doing interviews trying to find

1249
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: Sean mcdermot's replacement. So much to get here on Championship Sunday.

1250
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: Here on Fox Sports Radio, he is carry Rhads. I'm

1251
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: Dan Byer. Adam Kaplan joins us next here on Fox

1252
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1253
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1254
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,440
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1255
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,680
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1256
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:24,680
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1257
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: In Zone radio. On Fox Sports Radio, He's carry Roads. Y'allpro,

1258
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. Sean Payton is weighed in on his

1259
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: decision to go for it on fourth and one in

1260
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: the first half of the Broncos up seven to nothing.

1261
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: Ultimately do they lose the AFC Championship Game to the

1262
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: Patriots New England onto the Super Bowl for the twelfth

1263
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: time in franchise history. Ten to seven was the final

1264
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: as they played in a blizzard in the second half

1265
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: of the game in Denver. That topic and so much more,

1266
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan, our Fox Sports NFL insider, will be joining

1267
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: us actually right now. Adam is with us to to

1268
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: dissect what has happened, not only in Denver, what could

1269
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: happen in the NFC Championship game and some of these

1270
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: coaching moves. So, Adam Carrie carry, I don't want to

1271
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: put words in your mouth, but you wanted Peyton to

1272
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: kick the field goal on fourth and one?

1273
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: Is that fair enough?

1274
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: Okay? I looked at it even at the time, Adam,

1275
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: and they didn't get it. I thought that Peyton made

1276
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: the right decision in that scenario. How do you look

1277
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: at the decision that Peyton made to go for it in.

1278
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 10: The first I'm just going to tell you exactly what

1279
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 10: I thought coming into the game, and we're going to

1280
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 10: go right to that place. So I felt that Jared

1281
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 10: said him not having started a game since twenty three,

1282
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 10: he only had three practices, plus the walkthrough was not

1283
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 10: enough to put him back there a lot. I just

1284
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 10: you know, if you and I were coaching, I'm like, look,

1285
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 10: it's real simple. We're gonna play this thing close to

1286
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 10: the vest. We're not going to ask them to drop back.

1287
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 10: And you saw in the first half how.

1288
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:48,959
Speaker 7: Bad it looked.

1289
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 10: I mean that the just the inexcusable play that he

1290
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 10: had the intentional grounding plus the backwards pass that can't happen.

1291
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 7: I was terrible.

1292
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 10: And he also had another one like that, very slimmer,

1293
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 10: but at least he didn't turn it over. But getting

1294
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Speaker 10: to that play just plays into it. You can feel

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Speaker 10: comfortable with him dropping back like you just can't fourth

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Speaker 10: on one? Why not sneak it there? And he's a

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Speaker 10: pretty good athlete, by the way. My live call was, okay,

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Speaker 10: fourth on one, sneak it here?

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Speaker 7: Why would you throw it?

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Speaker 10: It would have to be guys and and and he

1301
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Speaker 10: did not handle the blitzwell at all. If you're going

1302
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Speaker 10: to throw it a very quick pass, they call it

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Speaker 10: like a guy. It's called a got to have a

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Speaker 10: play now. That's what offensive coaches call it. And that

1305
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Speaker 10: just I didn't agree with it. And this is not

1306
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Speaker 10: hindsight twenty twenty. This is what I felt as the

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Speaker 10: play progressed.

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Speaker 3: You didn't agree with the play call.

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Speaker 10: But didn't like it. I would. I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 10: It's fourth on one. I'll be okay with it. But

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Speaker 10: one thing I want to add. One thing went at

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Speaker 10: so during the playoffs with coaches or not in and

1313
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Speaker 10: I you know, I like texting or calling, and now

1314
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Speaker 10: one guy pointed out, he goes, here's the thing, we

1315
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Speaker 10: would have known what the hour by our forecast would

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Speaker 10: have been. That that maybe I didn't hear Caerry, but

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Speaker 10: knowing that the forecast was going to change and the wind,

1318
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Speaker 10: see the wind was really wild. It would be it

1319
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 10: would be flat, then it would be gusty, it would

1320
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Speaker 10: be crazy. And then you saw the snow come down.

1321
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,959
Speaker 10: The field conditions were terrible. The kickers struggled. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: I didn't now what did Champagne Dan send him back

1323
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Speaker 10: to you? What did he said in here?

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Speaker 2: It? So we are we are rolling on the audio,

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Speaker 2: but I just have a text. Wise he said, you

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Speaker 2: don't know what's going to be a three point game,

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Speaker 2: but as it goes along, you realize the field goal

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Speaker 2: is going to be valuable. So I think he was

1329
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Speaker 2: second guessing himself in that spot. But that's you know,

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Speaker 2: and I'll let Carrie take it away. But what I

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Speaker 2: just told Carrie was, you know, at some point New

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Speaker 2: England wasn't going to be shut down, and if you

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Speaker 2: could put fourteen points on the board, maybe at a

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Speaker 2: field goal later that made good enough to win. I

1335
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Speaker 2: don't know if ten points was going to be good

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Speaker 2: enough to win. That's why I didn't mind him going

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, again Dan, we talked about, like

1339
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 4: hindsight twenty twenty, ten points would have been enough if

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01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 4: he didn't turn the ball over, right, So they only

1341
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 4: put up three points, and Adam brought up a great

1342
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Speaker 4: point of the minute by minute the weather by our weather, Yeah,

1343
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 4: the weather forecast, like they said it on the broadcast

1344
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 4: that the winter it was gonna snow and the bad

1345
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 4: weather was coming. So taking the points and I was

1346
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 4: selling Dan Adam like just the psychology of it, right,

1347
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 4: Drake May wasn't playing well in the game early on

1348
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: and the defense was winning. So seven nothing, you know,

1349
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 4: one lucky score, you're back in the game and you know,

1350
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: I eat the turnover. But if you go up by ten,

1351
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 4: the mentality changes too. So for me that was the

1352
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Speaker 4: biggest thing. But I want to move off from them

1353
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 4: a little bit. Adamant and you know I talked about

1354
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 4: coming to the season, I said New Englan would make

1355
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Nobody thought they'd be in the super Bowl.

1356
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 4: But just talking about that year, yeah, talk about the

1357
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Speaker 4: turnaround by by Mike rablein his first year with this team.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really incredible.

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Speaker 10: So talk unto people there a bunch over before the

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Speaker 10: season started. Then after they lost at home to the

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Speaker 10: Raiders in the first game of the season, yep, I

1362
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 10: was like all right, I was for right, they'll they'll

1363
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Speaker 10: get Area nine wins because Rablee will get them to

1364
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Speaker 10: nine when they probably shouldn't be with their roster. And

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Speaker 10: I'll say it again, never under estimate the value coaching

1366
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Speaker 10: this is. Christian Nozalez is a phenomenal place. He's an

1367
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 10: all pro. I believe he's great. Splain who got hurt today?

1368
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 10: He hurt his ankle again. He's really an underrated player,

1369
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 10: Like coaches love working with him. And May obviously had

1370
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 10: a breakout season. Hadn't played so great in the playoffs,

1371
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 10: but breakout season. Stevenson's a good back. But God's when

1372
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Speaker 10: you really look at it, this is not a great roster.

1373
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 10: It's just they don't the things. They really don't turn

1374
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Speaker 10: the ball over, they don't beat themselves. It's a Mike

1375
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Speaker 10: Rabel coach team.

1376
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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 10: I also and and and the other thing is like sure,

1378
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 10: Mike would love to run the football, but he's also

1379
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 10: been more willing to put in Drake May's hands this season.

1380
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Speaker 10: That's been sort of what's been underrated with with May season.

1381
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 10: He as someone who coached with him back then when

1382
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 10: the Titans told me that had Mike staid he wanted

1383
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 10: to be more Ford, thinking, is he like?

1384
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Speaker 7: I don't think he really.

1385
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Speaker 10: I think I do believe that Derek Kenny would have

1386
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 10: been traded for Abel still the head coach of the Patriots,

1387
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 10: of the Titans, you know, I think he was he

1388
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 10: wanted to be more Ford thinking, so you saw them

1389
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 10: let Drake May the ball, probably more than you would

1390
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 10: think he would. He had a very good season. But again,

1391
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 10: to move us along, it's just not a great roster.

1392
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 10: But coaching Matterson, when you don't beat yourself, you have

1393
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 10: a chance to go far. And now things curry. Look

1394
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 10: at the state of the league. It's very mediocre. It's

1395
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 10: a lot of good teams. No, no one's even close

1396
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 10: to being league Nope.

1397
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Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan joining us here on End Zone Radio on

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01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. He's Carrie Rhodes, I'm Dan Byer. I

1399
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: want to shift just our attention away from the games,

1400
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: because they do want to get your thoughts on the

1401
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: crazy week in the coaching carousel. Mike McCarthy's now the

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01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I know they had

1403
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: second interviews with I believe Anthony Weaver and Brian Flores

1404
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: was a second interview as well, But why did they

1405
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: end up settling on McCarthy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Actually, Dan, as I understand, they had, they were

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Speaker 10: going to have more second interviews from some of the

1408
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 10: they interviewed, you know, nearly twenty people, but they were

1409
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 10: actually going to do some this week. But they felt

1410
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 10: that with McCarthy's experience, and they're gonna over the next

1411
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 10: few year, they're going to obviously dressed the quarterback position

1412
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 10: instead of patchworking it. And sure Rogers could potentially come

1413
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 10: back this season, but they want to bill with a

1414
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 10: guy that is younger. At some point, McCarthy's work as

1415
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers' career obviously progressed.

1416
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Speaker 7: They went to Super Bowl together.

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Speaker 10: He also, but most people don't know this, he worked

1418
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 10: with Joe Montana in Kansas City near thean of Joe's career,

1419
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 10: and in fact, that's that's as I understand it, where

1420
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 10: a lot of people on the go where he got

1421
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 10: noticed and he was Alex smith first offensive coordinator in

1422
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 10: twenty fifteen, and then he got the head coaching job

1423
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 10: with the Packers in twenty sixteen. So I think when

1424
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Speaker 10: you look at this situation with Mike McCarthy actually was

1425
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 10: in five and six he got the head coach to

1426
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 10: excuse me with the Packers. But when you look at it,

1427
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 10: guys with Mike McCarthy, it's just experience. And when you

1428
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,959
Speaker 10: look at their list, the guy that I was told

1429
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 10: they would have a great chance. In fact, I think

1430
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 10: he might have gotten the job if they were willing

1431
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 10: to wait was Chris Shul who's coaching tonight. Chris Schul

1432
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 10: was the guy that everyone in their building like, okay,

1433
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 10: you like the pedigree. Obviously the grandfather, his father, David

1434
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 10: was the Bengals head coach. Didn't go well but football

1435
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 10: family and he's a brilliant guy. Him and McVeigh played

1436
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 10: together at Mayava, Ohio. But they decided, you know, you

1437
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 10: asked you a question. They felt like McCarthy's interview was

1438
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 10: very clear. He was so organized, he knew what he

1439
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 10: wanted and the guy's a winner.

1440
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 7: Now, it didn't end well.

1441
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 10: Four out of his five losing seasons over his career,

1442
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 10: the last two with Green Bay and then he had

1443
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 10: two losing seasons with Dallas.

1444
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: Adam, let's stay, let's stick with this coaching carousel thing,

1445
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 4: and let's let's talk about the Buffalo what's going on there?

1446
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 4: I mean, you have the owner come out, you have

1447
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: the owner come out bashing players and doing all that nonsense,

1448
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 4: and an exit and exit interview like, what's going on

1449
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 4: in Buffalo with this head?

1450
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 10: Well, I'm gonna tell you that Philip Rivers has a

1451
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 10: real chance to get the show?

1452
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: Are you?

1453
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?

1454
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 10: I heard from someone about an hour ago who was

1455
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 10: already plugged in there he goes. I'm not making any

1456
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 10: predictions who's going to get it because Philip did well,

1457
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 10: we'll see what happens. I mean, it's not good for

1458
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 10: the coaching fresh profession if he gets the jet. Now,

1459
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 10: I'm a fan of his, I'm sure a lot of

1460
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 10: us are. But the guys never coached at the NFL level.

1461
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 10: He's been a high school coach. Now saying that Josh McCown,

1462
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 10: who never been a pro coach or a college coach,

1463
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 10: was a runner up many years ago for the Texas

1464
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 10: head coaching job. That was a couple of cycles ago.

1465
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 10: They decided not to hire them, and you know, that's fine,

1466
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 10: so it wouldn't be unprecedented. But well, in this case,

1467
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 10: it would be Jeff Saturday. Jeff Saturday did it without

1468
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 10: ever coaching in the NFL. He coached in high school.

1469
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 10: He came, you know, he was an interim head coach.

1470
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 10: But it's not it's guys, it's not it's it's just

1471
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 10: not good.

1472
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Speaker 4: Now.

1473
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 10: I like, to Brandon Bean's credit, he disputed the reports

1474
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 10: out there that they had if they didn't have a favorite.

1475
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 10: As I understood it, they were going into this thing like, okay,

1476
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 10: we haven't done this in ten years.

1477
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 7: Let's cast a wide net.

1478
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 10: And they were really casting a wide net here.

1479
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: The widest of widet.

1480
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 7: It's crazy, I know, I mean it's crazy.

1481
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, it truly is. Adam Kaplan our Fox

1482
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio NFL inside are joining us here kickoff between

1483
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: the Rams and Seahawks just in a few minutes in

1484
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: a game that you can see on Fox. So outside

1485
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: of Buffalo, there are three other vacancies. Maybe the Raiders

1486
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: and Cardinals had their eyes on guys who are still

1487
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: coaching right now. But what is going on with the Browns?

1488
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you know Minter ends up you know, pulling

1489
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: out because he goes gets the Ravens job. McDaniel withdraws

1490
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: his name from consideration. I think he did so as

1491
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: well in Buffalo set an interview with them. But why

1492
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: why is Cleveland at such a tough time in narrowing

1493
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: down their candidates to so Dan?

1494
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 10: I don't know if you saw the rapport from NFL network,

1495
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 10: which is this one I didn't know about.

1496
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Speaker 7: This is really phenomenal.

1497
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Speaker 2: Is that? Like?

1498
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 7: What okay? So so Dan?

1499
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Speaker 10: Basically what they want him to do is they have

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01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 10: a specific style of coach they want.

1501
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Speaker 7: Which is really younger. I know for fact that when

1502
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 7: a young want a younger head coach.

1503
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 10: But uh, Jim Schwartz has been on their staff for

1504
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 10: a few years as defense coordinator, has done a great job,

1505
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 10: and he's interviewed for it.

1506
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Speaker 7: They head coach a job.

1507
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 10: But what I just find hilarious, and I mean there's

1508
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 10: nothing I haven't seen what the questions are, but there's

1509
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 10: like a like they they kind of go over a

1510
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 10: bunch of things and they quiz them and then what

1511
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 10: happens is they have they have a written essay that

1512
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 10: they have to take home with we don't know what

1513
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 10: the questions are. Could you imagine asking like Jim Schwartz

1514
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 10: or see he's close to six years old. All right, Jim, Okay,

1515
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 10: so you passed this part of the test. Now we

1516
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 10: want you to go home, and we want you to

1517
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 10: ask the answer these questions. As a coaching source said

1518
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 10: to me on Friday, when when he saw the clip,

1519
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 10: he goes, what do they ask him? Okay, if you

1520
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 10: were a tree, what tree would you be? I was like,

1521
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 10: I don't know, I have no idea what the questions are,

1522
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 10: but I know they want to be analytical. That's that's

1523
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 10: their their process, which obviously hasn't won them anything. But

1524
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 10: they also butchered the quarterback position. I just don't know

1525
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 10: how you get away with this and and and that's

1526
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 10: that's the reason why people are in the league believe

1527
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 10: that it's going to be a very young guy, you

1528
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 10: early mid thirties, who doesn't know any better, who just

1529
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 10: wants to get seven millionaire the bottom, by the way,

1530
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 10: the bottom salary down the National FOOTB League.

1531
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 7: It is seven million a year for a head coach.

1532
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to be essay. My essay, by the way,

1533
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: would be two words. And the second word would be you.

1534
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you want to guess what

1535
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 2: the first Oh, I forget? You forget? Yeah, yeah, that

1536
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: could be sure. Good sounds good for me. But it's

1537
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: almost to me like they're asking people to do that

1538
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: to be like, all right, who's gonna put up with

1539
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: our stupid requests?

1540
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 3: Maybe that's our guys, somebody who will say.

1541
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 7: Yes, person doesn't know any better?

1542
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Hey.

1543
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 10: But here's the thing, though, Dan, this is what I've

1544
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 10: changed my tumb of this stuff. You know, how could

1545
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 10: they take this job if you're in the deal. By

1546
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 10: the way, every coach of contracts four or five years,

1547
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 10: except for Pete Carroll who was shorter. That was because

1548
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 10: of his age. If I'm the coaching agent, I insist

1549
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 10: on five years. If it's Grant Yudinski, who's the OC

1550
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 10: for the Jaguars, who, by the way, grew up fifteen

1551
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 10: minuts before I was where I was born, he was

1552
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 10: born in Doylestown, PA. He's thirty years old. I'm taking

1553
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 10: four years of twenty eight million. You could fire me

1554
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 10: after a year. You owe me the money. Coaching contracts

1555
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 10: are guaranteed, so you take it and you deal with

1556
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 10: Jimmy Haslam and the madness of that building. And there's

1557
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 10: that's the Jimmy Hasselm is an owner, could be thirty

1558
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 10: for thirty is a very different guy, so to speak.

1559
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pete Carroll's contracts had TBD on it. Yeah, it

1560
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 4: was not going to be long.

1561
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1562
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: Oh, Dan, you guys, I thought.

1563
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 2: You had something d No, oh no, no, it was

1564
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: all you yours. Carrie owise, we can let Adam go,

1565
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: yeah to watch this game.

1566
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know we're trying to get today, So I

1567
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 4: guess Adam. The last question for me is this NFC

1568
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 4: West game is about the kick off. That's what it is,

1569
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 4: not enough your championship game. Both of these teams are

1570
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 4: really good teams, very well coached. I think, you know,

1571
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 4: obviously it's going to come down to who makes mistakes.

1572
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 4: Do you think sam Donold in this position has a

1573
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 4: chance to rewrite his narrative and get a big win today?

1574
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 10: I am worried about Darnold in this spot, like he

1575
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 10: struggled in a game last year when he was with

1576
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 10: Minnesota against the Rams. He had the four interception game

1577
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 10: this year, which they would have won that game at LA.

1578
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 10: There's no question they outplayed that the Rams, so that

1579
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 10: that would worry me and Stafford, who I voted for

1580
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 10: Profable Road Association as Offensive Player of the Year at MVP.

1581
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 10: He's just incredible. He's going to be a Hall of

1582
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 10: Famer someday, by the way, and he's just a better

1583
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 10: He's just in a big spot.

1584
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 7: I take the better quarterback. It's going to be tight.

1585
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 10: But the funny thing is, which I financially most people

1586
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 10: don't know, this is Seahawks best road team in the

1587
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 10: National Footballague last two seasons.

1588
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 7: But yet at home.

1589
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 10: I mean, they're still good at home, but they're not

1590
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 10: as dominant as they are on the road.

1591
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: We shall see Yawks and Rams about to come up.

1592
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm actually at home today, Adam. That's why we have

1593
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of a disconnected usually in studio because

1594
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: of the Seahawks game and because of travel. I made

1595
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: the executive decision. I'm making it a home game for myself.

1596
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 4: He let me, he left me, He left me at

1597
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 4: and us to deal by myself.

1598
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 2: Yep. Home So for Dan, huh, yeah, not too shabby.

1599
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: We appreciate it, Adham, and we'll catch up next week.

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01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 7: Thanks so much, all right, Adam.

1601
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: He's carry road time, Dan Buyer. Chris Profets at the

1602
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 3: news desk.

1603
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 2: Giving us the latest of what's going on on this Sunday.

1604
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: One ticket punched, another on its way. What's going on, Chris?

1605
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 4: That's right, Dan.

1606
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 9: We are minutes away from kickoff for the Rams and Seahawks,

1607
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 9: and the Rams will take the football to start out

1608
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 9: the NFC Championship.

1609
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 4: We'll get those updates as that game kicks off.

1610
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 9: But we should go back to the game that happened

1611
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 9: before where it's been a long time since twenty nineteen,

1612
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 9: but the New England Patriots are going back and Drake

1613
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 9: May sealed the game and sound a little like this.

1614
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 11: From New England's thirty nine yard long out of the

1615
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 11: eye fake by May. He's gonna run it to the left,

1616
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 11: he's being chased, tries to get outside.

1617
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 7: He dug me, he's.

1618
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 11: Got the first on running to the first side.

1619
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: How lady, you're chasing.

1620
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 11: Defender and Drake May of the Patriots take the head

1621
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 11: off the Stevenson the cooked back but making it poot

1622
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 11: leg out to the left as a first down that

1623
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 11: should allow the Patriots to clutch it.

1624
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 9: One thing you didn't hear on that call from ninety

1625
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 9: eight point five. The Sports Hub and Patriots RADO network

1626
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 9: was Scott Zolac exploding out of sheer joy. After that

1627
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 9: play was done, the Patriots would go on to kneel

1628
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 9: the clock out there, headed back to the Super Bowl.

1629
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 9: Mike Vrabel first year with the Patriots for the Patriots,

1630
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 9: back to going to the Super Bowl.

1631
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 4: We could only be so lucky. We could only be

1632
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 4: so lucky.

1633
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 9: Elsewhere around the world of sports right now, one NBA

1634
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 9: game going on is to make good from yesterday, the

1635
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 9: Timberwolves hosting the Warriors. That game's the half forty seven

1636
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 9: forty six Warriors on top by a lone point. Earlier,

1637
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 9: the Detroit Pistons took down the Sacramento Kings, Cad Cunningham

1638
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 9: with twenty nine points and eleven assists in that game.

1639
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 9: And the Mavericks and Bucks game has been postponed due

1640
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 9: to winter storm Fern. And today was the first day

1641
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 9: I learned this winter storm had a name. And now

1642
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 9: we take it back to Carrie Roads and Dan Byer

1643
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 9: just in time for kickoff.

1644
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Chris. Yeah, Seahawks, as he said,

1645
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: about to kick it off the to the Rams, the

1646
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 2: Mavericks couldn't even get their flight off the ground to

1647
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: go and face the Bucks tonight.

1648
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 4: Ye, they was stuck on a tarmac all morning. So yeah,

1649
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 4: that sucks.

1650
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Weather happening everywhere except maybe for it was funny

1651
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: of the National Championship Game on Monday or people being

1652
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 2: like it was cold in Miami. It was, you know,

1653
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: it was like fifty fifty, you know whatever, in the

1654
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: fifties cold for Miami, and then out here in southern

1655
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: California we've got in about the sixties, but nothing close

1656
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: to what much of the country is dealing with. Just yeah,

1657
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: it happened. So when you watch like Scotti Scheffler when

1658
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: the American Express just closed it out on the PGA tour,

1659
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: a lot of people sitting in their homes if they're

1660
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: not watching football, watching the sunshine, at least in those places,

1661
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: wasn't shining today in Denver unless you're a Patriots. Broncos

1662
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: are in the I should say the Patriots are in

1663
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Broncos go home. Patriots back and headed

1664
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: to Super Bowl sixty. Matthew Stafford and the Rams taking

1665
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: over the football after the opening kick. Carrie Rhoads will

1666
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 2: tell you whether he is on or off some of

1667
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: the hottest topics in all of sports. It's all coming

1668
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: up next right here on end Zone Radio on Fox

1669
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1670
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1671
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1672
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1673
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: listen live.

1674
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: It's end Zone Radio on Fox Sports Radio. He's the

1675
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: all pro carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Beyer, Shame Ogan Guard

1676
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: our executive producer. Chris Purfett at the news desk. Chris

1677
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: is our technical producer. Kuri's Covern took over. Here's coming

1678
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: in on late duty. We always appreciate that. Give you

1679
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: an update of what's happening in the NFC Championship game.

1680
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 2: Rams win three and out in their first possession. The

1681
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: Seahawks are now facing a third in goal from the

1682
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: Rams two two yard line. All set up thanks to

1683
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 2: a fifty one yard pass play from Sam Darnold to

1684
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: Rashid Shahed to get them in Rams territory. Jackson Smith

1685
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 2: and Jig but another big catch and now the Seahawks

1686
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: and Kenneth Walker the third into the end zone on

1687
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: a touchdown run, diving in hitting the corner of the

1688
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: end zone. So the Seahawks right now up six nothing.

1689
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: May have to take a look to see if a

1690
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 2: knee was down before he got to the goal line.

1691
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: But Seattle cashing in on the first drive, if it

1692
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 2: stands carry roads, the big play to Rashid Shahed really

1693
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:34,839
Speaker 2: set it all up for the Seahawks.

1694
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 4: Man, I'm so happy that Seattle decided to take a

1695
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 4: shot with him. I mean, he's been a weapon in

1696
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 4: New Orleans for a long time and hasn't really acclimated

1697
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 4: himself into this passing system as much as I thought

1698
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 4: he would be. But to come out open and drive,

1699
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 4: take advantage of his speed, and I mean similar to

1700
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 4: last week. He made a big play to start the

1701
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 4: game last week and continues to do it in this

1702
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 4: game and Seahawks jump out to early seven nothing lead.

1703
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 2: You know, we have looked at the regular season in

1704
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 2: so much different ways, and when it expanded to seventeen games,

1705
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of teams now approached the

1706
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: regular season differently than maybe they did with sixteen games.

1707
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: But just to get a guy like you acquire if

1708
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: you're John Schneider, you're acquiring Shaheed. Yeah, for the regular season,

1709
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 2: but if it works out like he could be so

1710
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: dynamic in the postseason, and we saw it with the

1711
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: opening kickoff last week against the forty nine ers, and

1712
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: now we see it on the big play to help

1713
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: set up Seattle's first score of the game. But that's

1714
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 2: kind of why you also make these big moves is

1715
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: to have these guys in the postseason, and so far

1716
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: it's paid off huge dividends for the Seahawk one hundred percent.

1717
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 4: Has given them that other threat on the opposite side

1718
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 4: of the field. Obviously, and jig By has been all

1719
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 4: world this year and the Cooper cups kind of lost

1720
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 4: a step, but he's still dependable. But you needed something else,

1721
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 4: and I think that for them to go out and

1722
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 4: take that risk, if it was a risk because they're

1723
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 4: going to have to pay him, I'm guessing, but yeah,

1724
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 4: I mean to bring him into the fold and give

1725
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 4: your quarterback Sam Darnold another option, an option that can

1726
01:18:59,080 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 4: be a game change.

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01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: It was time for them, all right. So the timeout

1728
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: on the field, Seahawks up seven to nothing, they'll kick

1729
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: it off back to the Rams and the NFC Championship

1730
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 2: Game winner of this one gets New England two weeks

1731
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 2: from today in Santa Clara. We do this every Sunday

1732
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer,

1733
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: It's time to carry on. Carry Rhoads gets five topics

1734
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 2: thrown at him. He can tell us if he's on board,

1735
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: er off, carry on or off carry. You're ready for

1736
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: topic number one, Let's do it. The Rooney rule needs

1737
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: to go in the NFL. You want her off that.

1738
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 4: I am very off the Rooney rule. The Rooney rule

1739
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: is obviously having proven to do anything for a minority

1740
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 4: trying to get a job in the NFL. And obviously

1741
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 4: when you look at the coaching caro sale this year

1742
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 4: and you look at some of the names of minorities

1743
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 4: that have gotten opportunities, I mean, it's just pretty much

1744
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 4: a recycling door of guys that they know won't get

1745
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 4: the head coaching job, but they're bringing them in. So

1746
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 4: it's not really serving any purpose. So just remove it

1747
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 4: and just say you want to hire who you want

1748
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 4: to hire.

1749
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 2: All right, Dolphins should have stuck with Mike McDaniel.

1750
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 4: You on board with that or off it? I'm I'm off.

1751
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 4: I'm off that one as well. Dan, I know, I

1752
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 4: know you like Mike mcdoniel. I do in that situation,

1753
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: and I don't think you're gonna get anybody too much

1754
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 4: better in this hiring cycle. But again, I think it

1755
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 4: was time for uh a new a new voice there,

1756
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 4: and a new quarterback to follow suit. So for me,

1757
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 4: I'm off that one, and.

1758
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 2: A new regime is Jeff Halfley takes over with John

1759
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 2: Eric Sullivan, both coming from Green Bay, so she's running

1760
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 2: the front office, all right. Fernando Mendoza will be a

1761
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl caliber player in the NFL.

1762
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 4: You want her off that, I'm I'm on that one.

1763
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 4: I'm on that one. I'm on that one because it

1764
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 4: doesn't take much to be a Pro bowler.

1765
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: One year.

1766
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Speaker 4: We've seen we've seen that with the expanded opportunities for guys,

1767
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 4: I mean forgot, for God's sake, and we had Tyler

1768
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 4: Huntley in the Pro Bowl with more interceptions than touchdown.

1769
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 4: So will he I think he will be. Will he

1770
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 4: be an All Pro caliber player? I'm not sure on

1771
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 4: that one yet.

1772
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: I think your point about how easy it can be

1773
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: to make Pro Bowls this maybe the and it's no

1774
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: knock em and doze over the Raiders, But that makes

1775
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, all right, That's gonna do it

1776
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: for Carry On and Off on this Sunday. He is

1777
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: carry Roads the Allpro. I'm Dan Byer. The Seahawks have

1778
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 2: just kicked it back to the Rams, so LA will

1779
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: take over on their own twenty seven yard line. Seahawks

1780
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 2: up seven to nothing, five minutes gone by in the

1781
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 2: first quarter. Winner gets the Pats of the Super Bowl.

1782
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: We're back next on Fox.

1783
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1784
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1785
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen.

1786
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 3: Live as you heard.

1787
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: The Rams answered the Seahawks touchdown with the forty four

1788
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: yard field goals, so LA kicking it back to Seattle

1789
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: in the Pacific Northwest at seven three Seahawks midway through

1790
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: the first quarter. He is Carrie Rhoads. I'm Dan Byer.

1791
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Speaker 2: pants down. So the Rams answer back a lot of

1798
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: targets for pookin Nakua on that drive. We know what

1799
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,440
Speaker 2: Pooka did over two hundred yards, receiving a couple of touchdowns,

1800
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: and they're lost to the Seattle at the in the

1801
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: regular season on that crazy Thursday night game. Carry, but

1802
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 2: Rams not necessarily rattled after the Seahawks jumped out early

1803
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 2: with that seven to nothing lead. I'm sure they would

1804
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 2: have read rather have answered with a touchdown, but they

1805
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 2: get three points on the board with Pooka and Akula

1806
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: really involved.

1807
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, they came back in answered. This game is going

1808
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 4: to go back and forth. Dan, these two teams. Noise

1809
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 4: are the well, and we know these games come down

1810
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 4: to the wire. So great response. Obviously, Yes, I want

1811
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 4: to get a touchdown. Stafford under through that deep ball

1812
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 4: or he may have got a touchdown strike, But for

1813
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 4: Pooka to make the play and come down with it

1814
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 4: and get three points, they're right back in the game.

1815
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 4: And I'm excited for this game. It's gonna be fun.

1816
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: Man. So explain to us, as an offensive back how

1817
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: Pukinnakua could be open for a forty four yard catch

1818
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,799
Speaker 2: after what he did to the Seahawks a month ago. Okay,

1819
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 2: this is yet twelve catches, two hundred and twenty five

1820
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns in that game, and here on

1821
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 2: the second possession he gets away for a forty four

1822
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 2: yard catch. How if you're the Seahawks do you allow

1823
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 2: something like that to happen? How do the Rams? I

1824
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: guess scheme them open?

1825
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 4: That's that part you just said it. It was a scheme, Dan,

1826
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 4: So he ran like a little wheel route. So he

1827
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 4: runs a lot of a lot of those tough in

1828
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 4: between routes, those tough competitive catches that he's able to break,

1829
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 4: break a couple of tackles and get the first downs.

1830
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 4: But they yet, they definitely schemed them up. Ran a

1831
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 4: little wheel route there and got open. But I said

1832
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 4: the same thing, Dan Live, I was like, how is

1833
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 4: he getting open deep?

1834
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1835
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 4: But yeah, that one was skiing. But for him, if

1836
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 4: that balls up there and he has a chance to

1837
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 4: come down with it, I'm more time than not he's

1838
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 4: going to come down with it.

1839
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 2: Rams have had the ball twice and Pooka Aakua has

1840
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: already got five targets on the game, so you know

1841
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 2: they're going to be looking his way, And I guess

1842
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: that's the other part of it, because if you're sitting

1843
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: there and you're saying, well, why don't the Seahawks just

1844
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 2: take away Nikua? That would be great on the surface,

1845
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: because I think that there is a question on if

1846
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: there is anybody else that would be able to step.

1847
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 3: Up for the Rams, just because of how good Nakua is.

1848
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 2: You know, last week it was the running game, Karen

1849
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 2: Williams getting into the end zone a couple of times

1850
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: for the Rams in that contest. But as you said,

1851
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: we expect these teams to kind of go back and forth,

1852
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 2: especially because they know each other so better that maybe

1853
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: you can't necessarily lean on the run. But it's an

1854
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 2: entertaining game so far. And the ten points they have

1855
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: are seven fewer than what we had all day in

1856
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: Denver today, So we got that and it doesn't think

1857
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 2: that doesn't look like weather's going to be a factor

1858
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 2: in Seattle. Sometimes it can be, but definitely not like

1859
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: it was in Denver. Before I jumped to the AFC

1860
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Championship game, we had Kenneth Walker with the touchdown run.

1861
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: He just got another first down run to bring them

1862
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,879
Speaker 2: into the Rams territory. You don't have Zach Charboney anymore

1863
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 2: done because of the torn acl they don't have a

1864
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: lot of depth at that position. I mean there are

1865
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: guys that will now back him up because there is

1866
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 2: no Charbonay, but no one's gonna take on the workload

1867
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: that sharbon A ended up. Uh, you know, dealing with

1868
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: how do the Seahawks kind of you know, mitigate that

1869
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 2: sort of situation where you're not going to give someone

1870
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: twelve carries, but you don't want to run Kenneth Walker

1871
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: into the ground. How do you how do you navigate

1872
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: that if you're the Seahawks.

1873
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 4: Well, it looks like they're not taking your advice, Dann.

1874
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 4: They're going to run him into the ground. They're just

1875
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 4: doing them. Just threw just threw them a screen here.

1876
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 4: So he's getting a lot of action. But he looked

1877
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 4: so good early to start his game. Man, he's I

1878
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 4: haven't watched him, uh very intently. I've obviously obviously seen

1879
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 4: games of his, but man, he's shifty and he's running

1880
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 4: like he's like he's fresh. I think going throughout the

1881
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 4: season and splitting those carries with Sharbona is definitely he

1882
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 4: helped him in the spot. But yeah, they got to

1883
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 4: they got to take care of him a little bit

1884
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 4: here because he's he's He's gotten the ball every time

1885
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 4: except for the deep one.

1886
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 2: He is, no doubt the very electric, not in the

1887
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: electric way that because he is physical, but his body

1888
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: does sometimes take a little wear and tear. He's battled

1889
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 2: with injuries throughout his career. But I also think that

1890
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: Charbonnay just gave them a physical presence. And I know

1891
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: a lot of us who play fantasy football in the

1892
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 2: regular season are like cheez, you know, I wasted a

1893
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 2: pick on Kenneth Walker the third, but he has showed

1894
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 2: at times of his value even when he was there

1895
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 2: under under Pete Carroll and the offense that that the

1896
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,440
Speaker 2: Seahawks ran there like there there. He is a dynamic

1897
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: runner and can make plays and has speed and can

1898
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 2: do a lot of different things. But I do think

1899
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 2: that the workload portion of this is a is a

1900
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: bigger deal because you wouldn't be able to do that

1901
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 2: throughout the season because I'm not sure he would be

1902
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: able to hold up. Now you have a two game

1903
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 2: season and maybe you're willing to risk that a little

1904
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,480
Speaker 2: just because of what's at stake.

1905
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and for him he would want the ball, So

1906
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 4: I mean he won't be disappointed in all these touches

1907
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 4: as well, and getting a chance to show, like you said,

1908
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 4: his electric nature because I've seen him obviously, but they

1909
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 4: split so much that you only get themall doses of it.

1910
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 4: But to see him in his position where he is

1911
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 4: the guy, he looks really good.

1912
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 2: Big third down and two call for the Seahawks at

1913
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: the Rams sixteen yard line. If the Seahawks don't get

1914
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 2: it here, it will be interesting to see what Mike

1915
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: McDonald does because he's not as riskier as other coaches

1916
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. Seahawks in the regular season

1917
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: one of the fewest, if not the fewest team to

1918
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: go for it on fourth downs just really wasn't their

1919
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: sort of deal. So we'll have to see what the

1920
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 2: Seahawks do in a game where we think points are

1921
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: going to be a plenty and you just gave us

1922
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 2: a whistle on it. You're a couple of seconds ahead

1923
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: of because I'm at our home studio, carries out our

1924
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios one handed grab by Jackson Smith

1925
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: and jig. But to give him the first.

1926
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 4: Down, yes, Sam donaldoud a little bit of Matt Stafford there,

1927
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 4: a little no look, a little no look there over

1928
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 4: the top, great ball placement, one hand catch by and Jake. Butman,

1929
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 4: it's gonna be It looks like it's gonna be a

1930
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 4: long day for the The Donald. The Donald haaitos right now,

1931
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 4: he's playing really well.

1932
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: Don't speak too soon because you know there's always a

1933
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: turnover brewing with Sam Donald. I'm sorry, Dan, and I'll

1934
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: tell you what just on the Kenneth Walker conversation. What's

1935
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: crazy is that George Holani, who was just activated from

1936
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 2: injured reserve, just got his first carry and lost two yards.

1937
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: So now second and goal at the nine yard line

1938
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,520
Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. So yeah, you just can't put anybody

1939
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: in there and expect to do damage. What we'll do

1940
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: is we'll tell you we'll keep it here on this drive,

1941
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: and then we'll tell you about what happened between New

1942
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 2: England and Denver. Maybe even here from some Sean Payton

1943
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 2: on what he had to say after the game about

1944
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: some of the decisions that were made. But the ball

1945
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: is giving the Kenneth Walker and his carry takes it

1946
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: down to about the five yard line. There is a

1947
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: flag on the play. So we'll have to see if

1948
01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: the Seahawks would be backed up or maybe even a

1949
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: rest set of downs for Seattle if it's against LA,

1950
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 2: but a play there to make it a much more

1951
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: manageable situation if the penalty isn't against them and it

1952
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: is against them. So Seahawks backing it up on a

1953
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 2: holding call on right guard Anthony.

1954
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 4: Bradford, Yeah, you can't. You can't do that in the

1955
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 4: red zone. Dan, we talked about it. Everything matters, every

1956
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 4: penalty matters, every yard matters here and look at it.

1957
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 4: I mean it's definitely holding on the play. But yeah,

1958
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 4: I mean when you're in the second in goal to

1959
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 4: go type of situation and you get a penalty here, man,

1960
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 4: These these are the penalties that really devastates saying devastates

1961
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 4: teams because we know points are going to be at

1962
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 4: a premium, and you don't want to settle for threes,

1963
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 4: even though sometimes you have to. You want to get touchdowns,

1964
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 4: and the way they've been moving the ball, you don't

1965
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 4: want to put yourself in this position.

1966
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 2: It's not the same Seahawks team of old, as they've

1967
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: addressed their issues with the offensive line that you know,

1968
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: we're such a topic a conversation during the Russell Wilson

1969
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: you know Pete Carroll Arrol, Pete Carroll eras but Anthony

1970
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: Bradford probably the weakest peace along that front, where the

1971
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: have a solid left tackle in Charles Cross who's going

1972
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 2: to be there for years, they hope. And they've used

1973
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: the first round pick on Gray Zabel as their left guard,

1974
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 2: so they've tried to address that. But if there was

1975
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 2: a weakness in the Seahawks line, it definitely would be

1976
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 2: at right guard, and they use Kenneth Walker on a

1977
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: little screen pass to make it much more manageable. Now,

1978
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: third and goal at the nine yard line. Clock keeps

1979
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: on moving as well, So we've got about a minute

1980
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 2: left in the first quarter of a seven to three

1981
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 2: ball game, in a game where we thought maybe there

1982
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 2: could be a lot of possessions right now two and

1983
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 2: two at least in the first quarter. As the clock

1984
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 2: keeps moving, it's because the football also isn't hitting the

1985
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 2: turf mutch when the Seahawks have had the football except

1986
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: in that situation on a third down pass, and so

1987
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 2: the Seahawks likely going to have to settle for three.

1988
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: Facing a fourth and goal from the now nine yard

1989
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 2: line of the Rams. All right, the Patriots going to

1990
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 2: win today against the Broncos ten to seven. Did the

1991
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Patriots win this or did the Broncos lose this game? Carry?

1992
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean the Patriots. The Patriots won it. I

1993
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 4: mean I hate to be the guy that says team,

1994
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 4: you know, lost the game. Obviously, the Broncos had their chances,

1995
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, New England scored

1996
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 4: more points and they made the big plays when it mattered.

1997
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 4: I think Drake Drake may didn't have a big day

1998
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 4: passing the ball, but we talked about it earlier, like

1999
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 4: his his feet and being able to extend plays and

2000
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 4: to extend drives and get first downs, and we talked

2001
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 4: about that third That first possession of the third quarter

2002
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 4: was huge. I mean, obviously it only it only netted

2003
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 4: three points, but it really shrunk the game down. And

2004
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 4: when you shrink the game down, in those situations where

2005
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 4: you got a young quarterback and you start to have

2006
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 4: to press to make plays, it's tough to do. And

2007
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 4: so I would say that New England, you know, they

2008
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 4: made the plays they needed to, and I think in

2009
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 4: situational moments in that game, they came up big in them.

2010
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: I think Denver's is going to be kicking themselves. And

2011
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: I think I think as I look at as time

2012
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 2: goes on and again and still talking about this decision

2013
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 2: that Sean Payton made to go for it on fourth

2014
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: down in the first half on a fourth and one

2015
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 2: from the fifteen yard line. Yeah, if they kicked the

2016
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 2: field goal in that scenario and make it, because the

2017
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: conditions weren't as bad as they were later on in

2018
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 2: the game. It's a ten to ten ball game, Like

2019
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 2: Denver still needed to score, you know, they still needed

2020
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 2: to score in that situation. And that's why I ultimately

2021
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 2: like you to think that that's the decision by Sean

2022
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 2: Payton was correct. But I think the thing that's going

2023
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: to haunt Denver the most is that quarterback sneak And

2024
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: when you look back on it, listen at the Michigan

2025
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 2: Ohio State game in twenty sixteen, when we still don't

2026
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 2: know if JT. Barrett actually got to the first down

2027
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 2: line or not. The ref said he did. The State

2028
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: of Michigan. That's not Michigan State fans say he didn't.

2029
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 2: There wasn't a great camera angle on it. It's talked

2030
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 2: about ten years later, and I think when you look

2031
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 2: at this game, Kredita was tied seven to seven at

2032
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: that point, but when you look at what ended up

2033
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 2: transpiring in that game, I think that that sneak which

2034
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 2: ultimately allowed the Patriots to get a first down if

2035
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 2: they if the call was marked short of the first

2036
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 2: down on line, it would have been a turnover on

2037
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 2: downs and maybe Denver ends up punning it back in

2038
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 2: New England ends up scoring again, we don't know, but

2039
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 2: to get a fourth down stop would have taken those

2040
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 2: three points off the board. And I think ultimately, I

2041
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 2: think Laura will make it a Sean Payton sort of deal.

2042
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: But I think that that that sneak call that they

2043
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: gave New England a first down was was, you know,

2044
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: a call that the Broncos fans outside of the Stidham fumble,

2045
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 2: which I think you and I both agree is the

2046
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 2: worst play of the entire game. I think if you

2047
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 2: want to think conspiracy theory, that's what that's where Denver's

2048
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 2: going to be calling or hearkening back to.

2049
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 4: Oh, they'll be talking about that forever, Dan that. I mean,

2050
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 4: it looked live to both of us that it was short,

2051
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 4: and I even in the in the replay, it looks

2052
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 4: short to me as well. And so for them to

2053
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 4: get the first down there, Like you said, we don't

2054
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 4: know what would have happened after that point, but it's

2055
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 4: just same like nobody else was going to score after that. Yeah,

2056
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 4: And so I mean it's a tough play and obviously

2057
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 4: we talked about it earlier, just not even failing or

2058
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 4: succeeding in that moment, but the energy, the momentum that

2059
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 4: comes from the person that wins that or gets that

2060
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 4: or gets that first down or doesn't get it. Man,

2061
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 4: it's huge.

2062
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,560
Speaker 2: The crazy thing that I think about New England. And

2063
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: we're going to be talking a lot about New England

2064
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 2: over the next couple of weeks, but I think getting

2065
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: over this spot is a big deal. I could be wrong. Cincinnati,

2066
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: you know, had an opportunity to go to the Super

2067
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 2: Bowl again. They lost in an AFC Championship game to

2068
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 2: the Chiefs after going to Super Bowl fifty six, losing

2069
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 2: to the Rams team that we're watching and talking about now.

2070
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: But I mean, if New England makes it with this crew,

2071
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 2: and it's right, I mean, there's and Drake may is

2072
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 2: in year two of his quarterback career, so next year

2073
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 2: you have an opportunity. So again he's going to be

2074
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 2: playing under a rookie salary, so you don't have to

2075
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 2: worry about that at some point you're going to have

2076
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: to pay him. But it's also getting there, of knowing

2077
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 2: how to get there, and that's it's a reason why

2078
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott's no longer the head coach of the Bills

2079
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 2: is because they.

2080
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 3: Don't know how to get there.

2081
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 2: And for New England to be able to do that

2082
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 2: with Vrabel and kind of getting over this hump, it'll

2083
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 2: be his first Super Bowl as a head coach. But

2084
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,680
Speaker 2: I wonder now as we look at the changing of

2085
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 2: a guard in Baltimore, and we don't know what's going

2086
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 2: to happen with Kansas City and Andy Reid's future, and

2087
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 2: we've seen, you know, they don't make the playoffs this year?

2088
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 2: Are they able going to be able to turn it

2089
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 2: on next year? You now wonder, Okay, is New England

2090
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 2: now the team that kind of knows how to get there,

2091
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: knows the recipe, and I think getting there is just

2092
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 2: so difficult as it is Carrie that I wonder not

2093
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 2: opening the floodgates, but if they will. I think they're

2094
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 2: going to be the team over the next five or

2095
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 2: ten years that we will never be able to count out.

2096
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,959
Speaker 2: Because they were able to get to the Super Bowl.

2097
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 4: This year, Dan, this might be the worst. This might

2098
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 4: be the worst they will ever be, you know what

2099
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 4: I mean? Like sure, think about where they are. This

2100
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 4: team is coming off two, four and thirteen seasons, right,

2101
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 4: You get a new head coach, you got your quarterback

2102
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 4: in the second year, you bring in you bring in Diggs,

2103
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 4: who's still a good player. He's not great anymore, but

2104
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 4: you know, Hunter Henry. You have guys that have had

2105
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 4: success in this league, but they're not that talented. And

2106
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 4: so the fact that they're there, it just lends all

2107
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 4: the all the energy, and all the good will and

2108
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 4: all the the I guess the real talks about this team.

2109
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 4: It just boils down the coaching and guys that have

2110
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 4: been there. I mean, you have the head coaching Vaibel,

2111
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 4: but you also got McDaniel as well on that staff

2112
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 4: who's been there and knows and knows what it takes

2113
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 4: to get there. And so just not beating yourself and

2114
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 4: giving you yourself, giving yourself a fair chance to win

2115
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 4: these games. Most teams can't do that, and I think

2116
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 4: that's probably it's I mean, twenty seven, twenty seven teams

2117
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 4: put themselves in the position to not be here, and

2118
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 4: then you have, you know, four teams left that at

2119
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 4: least give themselves a chance to be here. Out of

2120
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 4: all those teams that have been here, New England's a

2121
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 4: team that you look at and say, they're not going

2122
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 4: to beat themselves and give themselves a chance to win,

2123
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 4: and that's why they're in the Super Bowl.

2124
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 2: Now, did you say twenty seven teams plus four because

2125
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 2: he just wanted to leave out the Raiders because they're

2126
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 2: never ever Sorry goods, Sorry, it is too easy.

2127
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 7: It's too easy.

2128
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 2: He is carry roads. I'm Dan Byer. It is end

2129
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 2: Zone Radio. Seahawks ended up settling for a field goal.

2130
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 2: The kick was good bye Jason Myers, Rams have the

2131
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 2: football that just cross midfield and a run by Kereron Williams.

2132
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 2: So it's ten three Seahawks at the end of the

2133
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 2: first quarter of the NFC Championship game.

2134
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 4: Carrier, I should have say twenty six because we could

2135
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 4: put Cleveland there as well.

2136
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, fair enough, ye, Hey, he knows the truths

2137
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 2: to the truth, right, carry up. I Carry twenty five Roads.

2138
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 2: You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox Now.

2139
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 2: Shay may not be a nice lifeline for you coming

2140
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 2: up next in a game of easy As one, two,

2141
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 2: three four. By the way, it is easy today. Like

2142
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 2: I think that you could get a perfect score. I

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Speaker 2: really do. I think that is in the cards. It

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Speaker 2: is an NFL Championship Sunday themed easy As one two,

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Speaker 2: three four. Yeah, you'll have lifelines to use. Plus we'll

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Speaker 2: let you know what the Rams do is again. They

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Speaker 2: have the football just crossing the fifty yard lines and territory.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the first quarter, it's ten to

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Speaker 2: three Seahawks over the Rams. Patriots are on the way

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. We're back with all of it

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Speaker 2: So it's ten to six Seahawks on top of the

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Speaker 2: Rams Rams settling for a fifty yard field goal. Maybe

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Speaker 2: the Rams should have got a fresh set of downs

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Speaker 2: because on a third doll Matthew Stafford got sacked, but

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Speaker 2: it appeared that his face mask was grabbed on the

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Speaker 2: sack carry roads. They instead settle for three. But maybe

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01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: a missed call that really would have benefited the Rams,

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01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 2: giving them a fresh set of downs in Seahawks territory.

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Speaker 4: Dan, I love your impartiality when it comes to that

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Speaker 4: because it would have benefitted the other team. But I

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01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 4: mean when we talked about it in the Denver in

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01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 4: the New England game, right where you can do everything

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Speaker 4: right and you can have mistakes as players and do

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Speaker 4: all that stuff as well, but the officials come into

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Speaker 4: play and if the human era of missing calls a

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Speaker 4: lot of times is big factors in these games. So

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01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 4: for them to miss one there, not giving the rams

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Speaker 4: that first down there you have to settle for three

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Speaker 4: and right now, that's the difference in the game.

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Speaker 2: And it's actually a play carry that I've said for

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Speaker 2: years that I think that face masks should be reviewable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we're reviewing hits to the head to

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Speaker 2: see if you know, guys were you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: hitting the head or however the tackle was made, that's

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Speaker 2: a safety rule.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's what face masks are, right Like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about some of the more vicious

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Speaker 2: situations that we've had. We've seen guys you know, head

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Speaker 2: being turned around and other situations, and I also think

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Speaker 2: that those are pretty easy to spot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, so in that situation, I Darnald was getting

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Speaker 2: sacked and in the process of the sack, his face

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Speaker 2: mask was being grabbed. And I think most Seahawks fans

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Speaker 2: would say, well, he was going to be sacked anyway.

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Speaker 2: But that's not the point where I think the If

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Speaker 2: we're going to review stuff for player safety, then I

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01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 2: think that should be a part of it as well.

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Speaker 4: A thousand percent. I remember when you brought that up,

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Speaker 4: and I thought it was a great a great idea

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Speaker 4: because obviously I think you should probably caution on the

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Speaker 4: side of it was probably a face mask, and even

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Speaker 4: if you have to pick it up after a review

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Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be, I think that would

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Speaker 4: be more beneficial than not calling it at all.

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Speaker 2: So the Seahawks got a first down pass to Jackson

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Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba that put him across midfield. They were

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Speaker 2: in Rams territory. However, Sam Donald mishandled the snap on

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Speaker 2: the next play, lost nine yards and the Rams just

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Speaker 2: sacked him on second to nineteen. So it's going to

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Speaker 2: be third and forever for the Seahawks As they lead

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Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game ten to six with ten

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Speaker 2: minutes to go until halftime. This was an important possession

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Speaker 2: just for a couple of reasons. The Seahawks get the

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Speaker 2: ball at the start of the second half. If there

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Speaker 2: was a way they went down and score and r

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Speaker 2: up seventeen to six, have you got to stop against

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Speaker 2: the Rams? Then could come out in the second half

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the next thing you know,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty four to six or you have a double

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Speaker 2: digit lead, could really change things. A turn of events

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Speaker 2: there that are going to benefit the Rams and the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks play it safe, and now the Rams are gonna

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Speaker 2: get the football back as the Seahawks will punt it

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Speaker 2: back to them. So while the Seahawks are punting it

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Speaker 2: back to the Rams, we will play a game. It's

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Speaker 2: time for easy as one, two, three, four. This is

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Speaker 2: the game where Carrie doesn't have to get all the

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Speaker 2: answers correct to have a perfect score of ten, just

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Speaker 2: some of them.

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Speaker 3: I give him four topics.

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Speaker 2: He's got lifelines and our executive producer Shay Moganguard and

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Speaker 2: our anchor Chris Purfett. You can use both guys at

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Speaker 2: any time. You don't have to use them up today, Carrie.

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Speaker 2: But I have a feeling you're gonna do very well.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the over under is nine and a half.

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01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 4: Holds Mackett or bus last week too.

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Speaker 2: Perfect game or busts All right, it is Championship Sunday

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Speaker 2: themed Rams.

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01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 3: By the way, muffed the punt, but they recovered it.

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Speaker 2: They'll take it over at their own thirteen yard line.

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Speaker 2: Each question has to do with a team in today's

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Speaker 2: final four. Okay, Question number one, name one of two

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Speaker 2: Rams players who have been named Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 4: One of two Ram players current.

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Speaker 2: All right, so you got in history of the Rams

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Speaker 2: super Bowls?

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Speaker 7: Got you?

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01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 4: Okay, will go Cooper Cup?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Is that your final answer?

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Speaker 7: That answer?

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Speaker 2: All right, show me Cooper Cups. Yes, Cooper Cup fifty six.

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01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl fifty six was the MVP.

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Speaker 2: The other answer we could have used Kurt Warner Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl MVP Kurt of Super Bowl thirty four.

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Speaker 3: See, these questions are easy. The Rams question is out

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Speaker 3: of the way.

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Speaker 2: If there is one to trip you up, I thought

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Speaker 2: maybe this could be the one. Oh, but still I

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Speaker 2: have confidence in you carry roads. Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 2: This is the Seahawks portion of easy as one, two, three, four.

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01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 2: All right, name two of the three cities or areas

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Speaker 2: that hosted the Super Bowl when the Seahawks played in

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Speaker 2: the game. So the Seahawks have been to three Super

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Speaker 2: Bowls in franchise history. Name two of the sites that

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01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 2: they played the Super Bowl in two of.

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Speaker 4: The sites, m I think one's Arizona and Chris. What's

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Speaker 4: the other one going to say?

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Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure the beatdown they put on the Broncos

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01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,560
Speaker 9: was in New Jersey at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 4: I'll take those two. I'll take those two.

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Speaker 2: Dan all right, show me New York, New Jersey, that

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01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 2: is correct, super Bowl forty eight, and show me Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Oh guess there it is super Bowl forty nine against

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Speaker 2: the Patriots. The other super Bowl forty in Detroit, Detroit, Troyce.

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Speaker 2: You didn't get Detroit.

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01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 4: It's too far back from me.

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01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 2: Twenty years ago the Seahawks robbed of a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: win by the officiating in the NFL. Don't worry.

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Speaker 9: I also have strong memories that beat down, just because

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01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 9: I was looking for an Italian restaurant to go watch

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01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 9: it at, and my journey across the Vanna to find

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01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 9: a TV showing the.

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl was it was? It was? It was like

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01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 4: the Odyssey.

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01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 2: Gotcha three for three carry roads. I told you so.

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01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: This is all good. So now we jump to the

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Speaker 2: AFC portion of easy as one, two, three, four. All right,

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01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 2: name three of the four teams that have beaten the

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots in a Super Bowl? Three of the four, yes,

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01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 2: three of the four teams that have beaten the Patriots

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Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: All right, I know two of them. I'll go Giants,

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Speaker 4: the New York Giants. Does that count is two to one?

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Speaker 2: Dan? That counts as wh I know, right, all.

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01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 4: Right, all right, okay, all right, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 4: Let me see Chris.

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01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 9: I need to Chris, well, I know the Eagles are

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01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,679
Speaker 9: one of the nest one. Yes, I'm trying to wrap

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01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 9: my head and I'm trying to remember the other one.

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01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 4: Who else do they lose?

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01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Minute?

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01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 4: So Eagles, We're gonna go Seahawks? No, they lost? I

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Speaker 4: mean they beat the Sea beat the Seahawks. The Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: Who did the Seahawks beat in their in their Super Bowl?

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01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 4: It was the It was the Broncos.

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01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 5: Oh oh, so you would have tricked me on that one, Dan,

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01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 5: I know the Patrons haven't won, like lost in a

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Speaker 5: super Bowl other than those two while I've been alive.

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01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 5: Those two are the only ones that I could remember.

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01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 2: WHI what year were you born?

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01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 4: Two thousand?

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01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:43,560
Speaker 2: Okay?

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01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 4: Oh, I think those are the only No, No, No,

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01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 4: I got it, I got it. I got the other one.

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Speaker 4: It's Green Bay.

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01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 2: Okay? Is that those are your final answer?

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01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 4: That's my final answer?

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01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right? Show me the Giants. Yes, there they

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01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 2: are twice, super Bowl forty two and Super Bowl forty six.

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01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 2: That's why Carrie wanted to know if he could the

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01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 2: Giants twice or not.

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01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 3: Show me the.

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01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 2: Eagles super Bowl fifty two in the Twin Cities, Philly Specials.

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01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:10,759
Speaker 3: And crew Yep, Philly special.

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01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 2: Show me the Green Bay Packers super Bowl thirty one,

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01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 2: right fov Reggie White get the victory, Mike Holmgrin carried

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01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 2: off the field beating Bill Parcells, Drew Bledsoe and those

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01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 2: Patriots and the other team. We knew the other team

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01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 2: that beat them. We just don't talk about who they

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01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 2: beat that much. The Chicago Bears super Bowl twenty the

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01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 2: eighty five Bears routing New England forty six to ten.

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01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 2: Forty year anniversary of that. But Carrie, I'm telling you

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01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 2: six for six so far, six for six so far.

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Speaker 2: Your final question this has to do with the Denver Broncos,

2341
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 2: who were eliminated today. But name four of the five

2342
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 2: teams that have beaten the Broncos in a Super Bowl.

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01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 2: We had the Patriots side of it. Let's do the

2344
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 2: Broncos side of things.

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01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 4: I know San Francisco beat them. Let me see Denver.

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01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 4: They've been so much in loss in those games. There

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01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 4: was one you have to go back through history for

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01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 4: as well.

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01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect scores on the line.

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01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 4: Wait, with the cow Did the Cowboys beat the Broncos

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01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 4: as well? Yep, I think the Cowboys beat them. So

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01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 4: Cowboys niners? Oh Man, Cowboys niners. Who's you got, Chris?

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01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 7: Did you get?

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01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 12: Well?

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01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:30,640
Speaker 4: I just mentioned one earlier. It was the Seahawks.

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01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 9: Seahawks down to the Seahawks, and then I think pretty

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01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 9: sure they lost the Giants somewhere along the way.

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01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 4: You think, so you think the Giants?

2359
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 2: That one?

2360
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 9: I forget there. It was the eighties. It was the eighties.

2361
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 9: It was one of those. Shoot, it was one of

2362
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,680
Speaker 9: those the John Elway teams that like almost got to

2363
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 9: the top. I'm sure it was the Giants.

2364
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 4: All right, let's go giants because I don't know that

2365
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 4: one in particular. So I got three of them. But

2366
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 4: let's go giants here, all right?

2367
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 2: So forty nine ers, Cowboys, Seahawks, and Giants. Those are

2368
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 2: your four answers.

2369
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need this perfect score. Let's go go.

2370
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 2: Okay, just to let you know, pookin Nakula with a

2371
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 2: big reception taking the Rams in the Seahawks territory six

2372
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 2: minutes to go until halftime, Rams have the football at

2373
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 2: the Seahawks forty four yard line, down ten to six

2374
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 2: to Seattle.

2375
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 3: Show me the San Francisco forty nine ers.

2376
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 2: Yes, routed the Broncos fifty five to ten in Super

2377
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 2: Bowl twenty four in New Orleans. Show me the Dallas

2378
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 2: Cowboys super Bowl twelve. Good job that it was a

2379
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 2: week before I was born, as she was talking about

2380
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 2: the Patriots losses previously. Show me the Seattle Seahawks. Yes,

2381
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 2: that was in Super Bowl forty eight. We talked about

2382
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 2: it earlier. Here we go and show me the New

2383
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 2: York Giants. That's perfect score of ten.

2384
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 4: Hit it thanks to my crew, thanks to Chris, thanks

2385
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 4: to Shae Curius. You're getting no credit. You said nothing.

2386
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 2: The other team that you could have used for the

2387
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 2: Broncos Washington.

2388
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 4: So oh that's right. Yeah.

2389
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl twenty two. Doug Williams and crew five touchdowns

2390
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 2: in the second quarter, Denver was up ten to nothing.

2391
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 2: At halftime, they're up or they were down thirty five

2392
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 2: to ten.

2393
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 4: So ugly quick, got it?

2394
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 2: Get ugly quick. The Rams driving Blake Korum with a

2395
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 2: run into Seahawks territory. Carrie Rhoads is ten for ten.

2396
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 2: Let's get a check of the news of the day

2397
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 2: and score update from Chris Phurvett as the Rams are

2398
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 2: on the move in this NFC Championship game. What's going on? Chris?

2399
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 9: That's right, Dan, As you say the Rams are on

2400
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 9: the move, Blake Korum getting them into close to the

2401
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 9: red zone. Right now they are on the twenty eight

2402
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 9: yard line of Seattle. Second down coming up here, Seattle

2403
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 9: still with the Loan touchdown in this game, score being

2404
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 9: ten to six, four minutes to go before the half

2405
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 9: earlier from the AFC side, the Patriot dispatch the Denver

2406
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 9: Broncos ten to seven, the final score completely wide it

2407
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 9: out as the stadium was whited out itself by the

2408
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 9: snow from winter Storm Fern. Finally making its touch known,

2409
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 9: a late interception by Jared quarterback Jared Stidham led to

2410
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:19,839
Speaker 9: Patriots quarterback Drake May icing the game with a keeper

2411
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 9: a sneaker round and gets the first down with a

2412
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 9: minute fifty to go, no timeouts left for the Broncos

2413
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 9: to that point, ballgame kneeled out, So the Patriots are

2414
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 9: awaiting the winner of this to see if they will

2415
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 9: have a rematch of the twenty nineteen Super Bowl or

2416
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,559
Speaker 9: if it will be Seahawks. He and Patriots in a

2417
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 9: rematch of I'm blanking already, Dan, You you remember.

2418
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,719
Speaker 2: That the Seahawks Super Bowl forty nine, Super Bowl fifty

2419
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 2: three Rams.

2420
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 9: Paced, Yes, or, as Matt Patricia calls it, the greatest

2421
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 9: defensive play ever drawn up in Super Bowl history. Just

2422
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:55,799
Speaker 9: remind you all how I feel about Matt Patricia. Anyway,

2423
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 9: NBA scoreboard, right now, let's get away from the football

2424
01:50:59,479 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 9: a little bit.

2425
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 4: As it is third and one.

2426
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 9: Rams keep it on the ground and they pick up

2427
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 9: the first down about three minutes to go now as

2428
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 9: they are firmly in red zone territory. But yes, back

2429
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 9: to the NBA earlier, the Pistons dispatched the Kings one

2430
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 9: thirty nine one sixteen, Cad Cunningham with twenty nine points

2431
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 9: eleven assists for the Big Man. The makeup game between

2432
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 9: the Warriors and Timberwolves. Five minutes to go in the game,

2433
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 9: Warriors with a ninety nine to seventy nine lead on

2434
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 9: the Timberwolves, Steph Curry with twenty six points. In this affair,

2435
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 9: the Mavericks and Bucks were postponed due to winter storm Fern. Meanwhile,

2436
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 9: the Pelicans and Spurs end of the first Spurs twenty

2437
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 9: eight twenty five on the Pelicans final minute of the

2438
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 9: first quarter. It in the thunder or have a five

2439
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 9: point lead on the Raptors twenty eight to twenty three.

2440
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,759
Speaker 9: Carrie and carry and Dan back to you guys, Sorry.

2441
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:57,639
Speaker 2: Call me Dan Thorn. Yeah, that's fine, that's Christopher.

2442
01:51:58,160 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 7: Yeah kay.

2443
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what this guy who's been putting in

2444
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 2: the work today. So we appreciate absolutely every second that

2445
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 2: you do. Chris, thanks so much. Hit him up at

2446
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 2: Chris Perfet the Rams just call the time out. Carry.

2447
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 2: This is the portion of the game that a lot

2448
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 2: of people go to, last four minutes of the first half,

2449
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 2: first four minutes of the second half, and how games

2450
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 2: can change in the Rams here down four working the clock,

2451
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 2: there's two forty left. They have an opportunity to get

2452
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 2: a first down here. If they take a lead and

2453
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 2: Seattle doesn't score, then they're back on serve. So a

2454
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 2: very very key set of downs here. And it was

2455
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 2: why the previous possession where Seattle wasn't able to do anything,

2456
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 2: you had the sack, had the fumble, was really a

2457
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 2: key possession because of this instant here where you have

2458
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: the Rams possibly working the clock down here and again

2459
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 2: they can get a first down. It's first and ten

2460
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 2: at the eleven, so they can get a first down

2461
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 2: at the one. But they could run this clock all

2462
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,560
Speaker 2: the way down and then the Seahawks wouldn't really be

2463
01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 2: able to answer. And the Seahawks get the football at

2464
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 2: the end of the at the beginning of the second half.

2465
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 2: So key set of circumstances here in Seattle.

2466
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan, in this situation, it's it's instrument's it's gonna

2467
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 4: be instrumental for the for the rest of this game

2468
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 4: and how and how the game goes. I mean, these

2469
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 4: last two minutes are going to be so key and

2470
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 4: so big. I was in a situation in the AFC

2471
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 4: Championship game when we played the Colts. We were up

2472
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 4: ten to three, pretty much dominate the first half. Peyton

2473
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 4: Manning hit one big pass down the sideline. They got

2474
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 4: into a little bit of a rhythm right before the half,

2475
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 4: scored a touchdown to tie the game right up at

2476
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 4: the half and shifted the momentum to a uh to

2477
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 4: completely to their side, and they took over that game

2478
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 4: in the second half. But in this situation where Seattle,

2479
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 4: if I'm Seattle, after this two minute possession, if the

2480
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 4: Rams run the ball and try to continue to waiste

2481
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 4: clock here to tilt the momentum in their favor. I'm

2482
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 4: calling time out to try to preserve as much time

2483
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 4: as I can to get the ball and try to

2484
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 4: go score themselves in this situation.

2485
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm actually surprised they didn't. They just ran a first

2486
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 2: round run for about two yards man a second and eight,

2487
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 2: but the ran off about, you know, thirty eight seconds

2488
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,719
Speaker 2: of the clock. It was just south of two forty

2489
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 2: I think when they ended up running the play. But

2490
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Seahawks plan on using it on the

2491
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 2: other side. But in that situation, the Rams may not

2492
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 2: be running the ball on every play here, so we

2493
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 2: will We will have to see on how this works out.

2494
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 2: Two minute warning. Now, Rams knocking on the door, but

2495
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 2: down four to the Seahawks. He's carry roads. I'm dan Byer.

2496
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a time out. When we come back,

2497
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 2: we'll tell you what the Rams do in the red zone.

2498
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:31,600
Speaker 2: You'll also hear from Sean Payton explaining why the Broncos

2499
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 2: ended up bypassing a field goal attempt in the first

2500
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 2: half and went forward on four fourth and one down

2501
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 2: that they ultimately did not convert on and ultimately lose

2502
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 2: by three in the AFC Championship game. You'll hear the

2503
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 2: Broncos head coach explain that he's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer.

2504
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:49,480
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2505
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,720
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2506
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:56,120
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2507
01:54:56,280 --> 01:55:00,400
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2508
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:01,440
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2509
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,360
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2510
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 3: He's the all pro carry.

2511
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 2: Roads im Dan Beyer and the Rams if taken a

2512
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 2: thirteen to ten lead on the Seahawks on that second

2513
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 2: down play, Matthew Stafford finding a wide open Kyron Williams

2514
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 2: in the left flat, walked into the end zone.

2515
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 3: Extra point was good. Seahawks now taking.

2516
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Over just on the other side of the two minute

2517
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 2: warning at their own thirty five yard line carry.

2518
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 3: But the Rams now take the lead thirteen to ten.

2519
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, big score. There are a great, great play design.

2520
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford had enough time to get it out to

2521
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 4: Kyraen Williams in the flats and you know he was

2522
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 4: wide open, walked in for an in zone, into the

2523
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 4: end zone for a touchdown and Rams up thirteen ten.

2524
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 4: But this you still got time for the Seahawks. Here

2525
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 4: would a minute and fifty ball on a thirty six

2526
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 4: yard line, go get some points tied up or take

2527
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 4: the lead back.

2528
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Seahawks would get the ball at

2529
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 2: the start of the second half. But all possessions in

2530
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 2: these championship games are crucial, but some a little bit

2531
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 2: more than others when they could change the the flow

2532
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 2: of the game. And now the Seahawks facing a third

2533
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: and nine as it passed to Cooper Cup falls incomplete.

2534
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 2: Maybe no bigger play in Denver than a fourth and

2535
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 2: one that Denver decided to go for today against the

2536
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 2: New England Patriots. Now Carrie and I are both on

2537
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 2: the same page that we feel the Jared Stidham ultimate

2538
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 2: fumble that was recovered by New England, setting up their

2539
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 2: first score and their only touchdown in the game, was

2540
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 2: the biggest play of the game. But maybe the most

2541
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 2: talked about play will be the decision made by Sean

2542
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 2: Payton to not kick a field goal up seven to

2543
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: nothing and at the New England fourteen yard line on

2544
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 2: the fourth and one, they end up going for it.

2545
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 2: Pressure on Stidham Jared Stidham forced them to throw an

2546
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 2: incomplete pass and the Broncos got no points in that situation.

2547
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 2: This was Sean Payton, the Broncos head coach, addressing the

2548
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 2: decision to go for it in that AFC Championship game.

2549
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 4: What was the decision making on the fourth and one

2550
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 4: early in the second quarter to go for it?

2551
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, I just felt like, man, we had momentum to

2552
01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 12: get up fourteen, and felt like we had a good

2553
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 12: call and where we at yard line wise there?

2554
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think.

2555
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 12: The feeling was, man, let's let's be aggressive to get

2556
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 12: up fourteen. I was just watching the way our defense

2557
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 12: was playing.

2558
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 4: He didn't even know what the yard line he was on. Dan,

2559
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to hear any other thing

2560
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 4: about anything that he said, you know how I feel.

2561
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 4: I just you got to take those points, and obviously

2562
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 4: you know, the outcome is the outcome. But yeah, momentum

2563
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 4: and all that stuff, I understand it, but ten points

2564
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 4: is momentum as well. Another field goal in being up

2565
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 4: by two scores. I just don't really agree with how

2566
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 4: he said that or what he was trying to say there.

2567
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like the call. I know it didn't

2568
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 2: work out. I know some people didn't like to play

2569
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 2: call Adam Kaplan the same thing. But I mean in

2570
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 2: this game where we saw ten points was good enough. Yeah, yeah,

2571
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 2: I mean fourteen would have been good enough for Denver,

2572
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 2: we think, unless I mean considering how things played out

2573
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 2: with the weather in the second half. So in that scenario,

2574
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 2: I think that's what the Broncos were going for. And

2575
01:57:59,040 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 2: if it was.

2576
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 3: Fourth and three, they wouldn't have gone for it.

2577
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 2: They would have kicked a field goal and maybe it

2578
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 2: would have been different, But it was fourth and one

2579
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 2: and they decided to go for it, even with the

2580
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. Yeah, if you ran a sneak, if you

2581
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 2: handed it off. I know there was something that we

2582
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 2: talk about New England's front so much, but Broncos have

2583
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 2: a really good offensive line, maybe more known for their

2584
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 2: pass protect than maybe grinding it out. But you know,

2585
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 2: in that situation, I don't know if I would have

2586
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 2: put it in Jarrett Stidham's hands, at least for him

2587
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 2: throwing the football. But I kind of I agree with

2588
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 2: Sean Payton in the thinking. I don't know if they

2589
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 2: were being aggressive instead of just not being passive in

2590
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 2: that scenario, I think it put New England back and

2591
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 2: again New England didn't do anything with the football on

2592
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 2: that ensuing possession. It was when New England punted it

2593
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 2: back to Denver that the Broncos then ended up turning

2594
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 2: it over, allowing New England to get the game tying

2595
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 2: touchdown at that point. But it'll be talked a lot

2596
01:58:57,080 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 2: about this week, and Sean Payton can add another one

2597
01:58:59,480 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 2: to his resume.

2598
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then all fourth and ones aren't created equal either.

2599
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 4: I don't know how short it was or how long

2600
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 4: it was, but that's the other thing that we don't

2601
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 4: take into consideration, right, Like that yard in a yard

2602
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 4: and a half or inches is totally different, but it

2603
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 4: just says fourth and one. So those things also play

2604
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 4: a factor as well.

2605
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 2: So what went on, by the way in Seattle, the

2606
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 2: Seahawks faced a third and nine and a pass from

2607
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 2: George from Sam Darnold to George Hallani went off of

2608
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 2: Hallani's shoulder almost like he wasn't recognizing or expecting the football.

2609
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 2: This is the guy that was just activated off injured

2610
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 2: reserve this week playing in the NFC Championship game. At

2611
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 2: Seahawks ended up having the punted away. They punted it

2612
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 2: back to la Also, there was a holding call on

2613
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 2: the punt for Seattle. So the Rams up thirteen to ten,

2614
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 2: now have the football. It'll be at their own twenty

2615
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 2: eight yard line, but they've got both timeouts, minute thirty

2616
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 2: three left to go. You put some points on the board.

2617
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 2: With the Seahawks getting the ball at the second half,

2618
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 2: It'd be a huge swing of events here if the

2619
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:00,840
Speaker 2: Rams are able to do anything here in the final

2620
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 2: ninety three seconds.

2621
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Seahawks, that was the worst possible scenario for

2622
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 4: them to go through and out and give the Rams

2623
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 4: back the ball after they just scored a touchdown.

2624
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 7: It's good.

2625
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 4: This is now, this is a huge the biggest drive

2626
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:13,839
Speaker 4: of the game. Yeah, that can't give a point.

2627
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:17,839
Speaker 2: Too, getting bigger and bigger as as these these plays

2628
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 2: go on. With thirteen to ten Rams on top of

2629
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. I want to leave with this because throughout

2630
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,760
Speaker 2: the Browns and Bronco excuse me, Broncos and Patriots game

2631
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 2: shame Ognguard, our executive producer, had no faith in Jared's

2632
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 2: Stidham zero and in three minutes prior to Stidham throwing

2633
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 2: that bomb that set them up for the for their

2634
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:42,880
Speaker 2: first touchdown of the game, Shay was like, it's over,

2635
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 2: No way this is going to happen. Carrie then said,

2636
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 2: uh ah, hold on a sex, Shay, Broncos have a chance,

2637
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 2: and you guys ended up making a little friendly wager

2638
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 2: through the death. Did Shaye just back you in a corner? Carrie?

2639
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:55,840
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2640
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 4: I say, you back me in the corner, But I'm

2641
02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 4: a man of my word on the on the my bets.

2642
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 5: Go ahead and say what your so I mean? Yeah,

2643
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 5: of course I knew after the first throw. I knew

2644
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 5: the Broncos are gonna lose that game? Are you kidding me?

2645
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 5: But no, yeah, I didn't. I didn't want to know

2646
02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 5: because I felt like I was back in your corner.

2647
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 5: So I was like, Dan, how about you choose?

2648
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:12,959
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2649
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:15,240
Speaker 5: What we what we end up betting? Because you didn't

2650
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 5: want to choose? And I felt weird choosing because I

2651
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 5: feel like I did put you in a corner there, honestly, So.

2652
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:21,320
Speaker 4: Dan, what did you end up saying?

2653
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:24,320
Speaker 2: So? I said, if if Shaye wins, Carrie's got to

2654
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:27,600
Speaker 2: write a line about Shaye saying something positive in a song.

2655
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 2: And if the Broncos would have won, you would have

2656
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 2: had to diss Shay in one of your future songs

2657
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 2: that you write, so I'm excited. Yeah, how about that?

2658
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 2: So you got to say something nice about Shae or

2659
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 2: at least reference him in a nice way in an

2660
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:41,840
Speaker 2: upcoming single that we released.

2661
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 4: Well can we can? By default? I just say something

2662
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 4: bad about son Peyton.

2663
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 7: You'll have a whole disc track album coming out on that.

2664
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, the Rams are gonna have to punt

2665
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 2: it back to the Seahawks for carry Rhoads.

2666
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 3: I'm Dan Bayer. Enjoy it.

2667
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 2: We got you covered here on Fox Sports Radio. Talk

2668
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 2: to you next week.