1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: When you first got to the league. Who was the 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: first person to bust your ass? 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Oh man, that's you ain't gonna never forget. For me, 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: it was grand Hill. I was like, oh man, I 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: ain't gonna even lie to you. I saw I tell 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Detroit Piston Grand Hill Jerseys. Oh man, now listen, though, 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: I swear on everything I love. The last five minutes 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: of the game, he came down. He either scored I 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: found him, or he got an assist for somebody to score. 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: And it was just like, I felt like I lost 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: the game. I think he had like thirty eight fifteen assists, 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: twelve rebounds. 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: And I'm in the locker room, like you felt defeated. 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: I felt defeated. Crime anybody that was that was a 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: trick with that was the first person I felt. And 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: you know the crazy thing about this, Grand Hill was 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: the player who I idolized when I was in high school. 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm looking at dude, I'm like, oh, him, Steve Smith 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: from Michigan State. I'm trying to patter my game after 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: that him, and so I'm ready for this. I'm like, oh, 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: you know, when idols become rivals, I'm ready for I'm 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: ready to d up and I'm like, oh, this ship, 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: this is that right here? I need to get back 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: in the live straight up. 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 4: All right, we're back man, knuckleheads and full of fact. 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: Season three. We are here on location blackest one in 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: the building. We got a very special guest, very special 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: guest man. We got the truth, Hall Pierce. He's square 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: in the building. Hall of Fame, Jersey up and Beantown Rafters, 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: legendary tune in y'all were about to talk our ish. 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: My coach has this drill. He used to tell me 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: it's the Grand Hill drill. He was like, you gotta 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: be able to dribble the ball one time past half 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: court and dunk the ball. He said, I see, Grant, 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: He'll do it all the time. You get the ball 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: in half court, he take one driven, he take off 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: and dunk it. And so he used to make me 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: do this drill after every practice, like. 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Feeling like Greek freaky doing that right now, he take 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: one driven from like the three and then dunk. 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: And so when you came out, Junior, how you went 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: to Inglewood? 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 5: Hold up? Hold up, I didn't know you was from Oakland. 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: I was born in Oakland. A lot of people didn't know. 46 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: That me and were talking about he like he's from 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 5: a town he from the time. 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: But then, yeah, so I was born. I grew up 49 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: right around the corner from Gary Payton. Like, so I 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: moved to LA when I was like ten. 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 5: I never knew that. 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I moved to l A since most of 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: my mom family lived in l A. Yeah, you know 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: my uncles and aunties and so. But I was born 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: in Oakland for sure. 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: So you chose Inglewood when you got there, Like, uh, 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: before you chose Inglewood, did you you hear about the 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: basketball team or did you hear it was somebody? 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: You know what? 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: It was just all about what my mom took me. Yeah, 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It was just like, shoot, 62 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 2: we're gonna live over here now, son, So this is 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: where you're gonna go to school. This is where you're 64 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: gonna have to grow up. When I first moved out here, 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: I wasn't really in the basketball. I played football because 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: I was a big kid. You know, we grow up 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: we're big, bigger than our people in our grade. And 68 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: I played baseball. But then, like when I moved to LA, 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: all the kids that I met, they all hoops so 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I'm gonna go hoop on the weekends. 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: We don't take the walk to the school ground on 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: the weekend. So I fell in line with that, and 73 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: uh just tell of like around sixth grade eleven, I 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: started really like getting in the hoop. 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: The hoop. 76 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: So when you got to Inglewood, like who was the 77 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: best player in the school When you got to Inglewood? 78 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: Oh, man, let me see who was that boy? You 79 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: had to get to the It was. 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: This cat well when I first got there ninth and 81 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: damn I getting that ninety two. I was a freshman freshmen. 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: It was by the way Harold Minor went there. Haryl 83 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: Minor went to Inglewood High School, so I had a 84 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: chance to watch him. I used to go over to 85 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: watch him when I was in junior high. So he 86 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: was like the really the one. He wasn't there when 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: I got there, but he was like the one everybody 88 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: looked up to Andy, like, man, Harold Minor. You know, 89 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: then he made it. It was just like, shoot, I 90 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: want to be the next Harold. Everybody because you know, 91 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: they was calling Harold baby Jordan. He was like, we 92 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: want to be like Harold. 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: I used to love how Dumpy. 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: Contest. He was like everything for all the hoopers in Inglewood, 95 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: you know, and like a lot of people know, you know, 96 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: Reggie Theis went there, Ralph Jackson, you know, we got 97 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: some we got some catch that came out the city. 98 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: Lisa Leslie went to Morningside, which is in Inglewood. That's 99 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: the only two, the major two high schools. So Byron Scott, 100 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: Yelden Canady all. 101 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: At what point did you start hooping against and meet 102 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: b D? Because y'all met pretty early. 103 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I met b D when we was like I 104 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: was in the seventh or eighth grade and I played 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: at the Inglewood Y m c A. That's what he 106 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: had to be a kid. No, let me tell you something. 107 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: BD was a short, skinny kid. 108 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 5: For real. 109 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: He was like built like Irison back then. You don't 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: even believe I got pictures of this. He's a skinny, 111 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: snagger tooth kid. But he was dominating the kids, and 112 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: I'm like he was just small. So like when I 113 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: got to the eighth grade, I was playing AU then 114 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: I was playing at the y and I was just like, damn, 115 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: who is this? He running past everybody's layup, I mean, 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: taking the ball from Mayre. He was like, he played 117 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: like Irison. That's my picture of b D when he 118 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: was a little fast as hell. And then I was like, man, 119 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: you need to come play with us. And so he 120 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: started on my junior high AU team and like out 121 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: of the Inglewood, why we had Andre Miller went there? 122 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: Now Andre was was a fat kid growing up. Andre 123 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: Miller was dominant after WI He like a y a legend. 124 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 125 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 4: Came to the league with the big boy post up 126 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: game forever like that. 127 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: Want he wanted them. People that don't get mentioned a lot, 128 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: but he used to lead the league and assists the 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: worst team in the league. He lead the league and 130 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: assists people don't even. 131 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: Say his name. 132 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 5: He definitely And I got. 133 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: I know somebody from l A, like the first big 134 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: person I ever heard from l A like high school 135 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: wise with Shae cat oh Man. 136 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: I don't even like him growing up. 137 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, like rival. 138 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: So that was the same years, man, What that was. 139 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: All like like a year older than Shame. But I'm 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: gonna tell you what. When my A team, when I 141 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 2: started playing, I played on the best second place team 142 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: in the history. We lost to him at every in 143 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: the city were playing him in the finals every year, 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: every tournament, every tournament, I lost to him, every one, 145 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: every one of them. I'm talking about dude coming down. 146 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: They had the fresh You know, I played for the 147 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: team Case Swiss. We were Case Swiss. We was broke, 148 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: was the head team. But you know, kids confident. We 149 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: just brought our but we was we was grinding and 150 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: we was like winning. But then every time we played it, 151 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna lose it. Him in the championship. It's gonna 152 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: be Case Swizz versus. They was called pt I. They 153 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: had the fresh Nike suits, warm ups name on the 154 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: back of the jerseys. He was definitely lebron He was 155 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: dunking eighth grade. Yeah, he was, like I guess he 156 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: stayed that same size from like could you imagine, Like 157 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: it's different now because kids more athletic, but like I'm 158 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: talking about early ninety when you were eighth grade, everybody 159 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: was talking about tapping the backboard. So you look down 160 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: the layup line and this kid out here, Dunky, he 161 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: like he already built, like he's ready for the league. 162 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: And he in that like seventh grade. It was like 163 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: I was like, let you. 164 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: He had so much hype around him. I was like dude. 165 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: He was that dude like in a tournament. They flew 166 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: him in once. And this is when we got to 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: be seniors because we played against each other since seven 168 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: all the way up. They flew him in only for 169 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: the championship versus my squad. He didn't play none of 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: the other games. He just said, I'm gonna be out 171 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: there for the championship and no. But look, we wind 172 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: up winning. Because this is the year. A lot of 173 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: people didn't know KG flew out the play off me 174 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: this tournament. Oh okay, they brought in it. This was 175 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: our first mad ticket. He come in and give us 176 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: twenty five at the half a kg, Like, who is 177 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: this gid? I'm telling you it's a story we still 178 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: talk about today. 179 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: So he was. 180 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: He got off the plane and just k gave us 181 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: twenty five at the half. I don't know what he 182 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: ended up with, but when y'all won that, we wind 183 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: up winning. It was the only time I probably beat him. 184 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm like two and like fifty versus then like the 185 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: last tournament of my last year for a year, and 186 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: we won the last one. 187 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: See, people don't understand that that was how that era was. 188 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: Man. 189 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 4: People was really breaking their neck to like fly kids 190 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: in because I remember, like like the tournament. We was 191 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: talking about what KG came to Chicago. First time I 192 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: was seeing him, had a big tournament in USC in Chicago, 193 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: and Wolf coached Gott to coach him at Ferragut. He 194 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: was talking noise to hell. You know how it is Chicago. 195 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: They gonna talk to somebody to. 196 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: He's like, oh, that's all right, I'm ready, that's all right. 197 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: Wait to that. Wait that jumbo jet Land. 198 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: He kept talking about this way to the jumpbo Jetland, 199 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: jumbo jet Land. 200 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: He got ticket. 201 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: Robert Traylor and Albert White, we got he came with 202 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: three of them, so he what and they had Ronnie 203 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: already that's what. 204 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: The next Georgian. 205 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like so I'm sitting there as a 206 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: young boy. I'm seventh eighth grade. I played, you know, 207 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: my AU team playing in the other general. Well, it's 208 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: like one of those type. All the levels and everything 209 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: were over there looking like yo. When they came in. 210 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: It's like, dude, the like NBA players, right, you know, 211 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 4: like you know, KG was real like same like sixt eleven. 212 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 5: I'm long and tall. Then you got track to trail. 213 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: I'd never seen nobody high school big as him. 214 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 5: White was like six eight Duncan throwing that ship. 215 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: He was. 216 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: Like. 217 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 5: They was like. 218 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm looking at this like a whole 219 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 4: new level to this. 220 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: It's the whole playing in high school. 221 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: Did you win state? No, we never won state. I'm 222 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: telling you we got close. 223 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: You didn't want miss the basketball or nothing. 224 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: I was the best player, but we lost to go 225 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: to the state championship my junior year though, and then 226 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: my senior year we lost. We lost to Domingas. There 227 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: was a powerhouse, the Mingus, But we should have met 228 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: them to go state. But we wanted. They did the 229 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: tournament to where we have to see them eliminade each other. 230 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: That's what they did. You already know that already we 231 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: shouldn't even play. 232 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: I should have met them in the championship or something. Yeah, 233 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: to go to. 234 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: State because our state is the South Southern CALVERSU Northern Cal. 235 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: But I missed state by one game my jail year, 236 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: and then we didn't even You gotta win like ten 237 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: games to get the state out here. You know, it's different. 238 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 5: They changing in Chicago. 239 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: It used to be like how you said they used 240 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: to make teen games city team one team out of see, 241 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,239 Speaker 4: we have a city championship and only the city championship. 242 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: State. 243 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: Now like five teams can go downstate from the city. 244 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: It's based on like enrollment and different double A. 245 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 2: So we have like divisions and so you gotta win 246 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: your division, which is like you gotta win five games 247 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: the tournament with like thirty something teams, you gotta win 248 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: five games there. Win that, then you advanced to the 249 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: state tournament where you gotta win like four more games. 250 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: Then State it's like the tenth game. It's like, damn, 251 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: you gotta go through a lot. That's hard. 252 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: That's California. 253 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: It's big, man, that's California, the biggest. 254 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: Hell. You gotta play something. Teams gotta be one champion 255 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: one bad day. 256 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: You already chose Kansas to go school with Roy when 257 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: you came up with anybody else that almost got you 258 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: before you went to. 259 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: Man, you know what, I almost went to Oregon or 260 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: it was coach Green, you know, but I was getting 261 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: recruited by all the West. 262 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: Coast coach Green's that's that's the black good. 263 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: No, it was a white coach, but they had the 264 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: black assistant. He was assistant with Roy back in the day. 265 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: But did the Nike influences. 266 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: No, it had no Nike influence. Like mine was like comfortability. 267 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: Like when I sat down with a coach, I kind 268 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: of like felt that they was lying to me or something. 269 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: It was just something that was a high school kiss. 270 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 2: You know, you go off in the street. You got 271 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: intuition about the you know you well you trust We all. 272 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: Distinctively tell and know that time when it went from 273 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: you just being a kid to like everybody on you 274 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 4: and you so, you know, we we be taking it 275 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: back and be all right now we're. 276 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: Going everybody got up. Something might So it was just 277 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: like I didn't trust you said at the time at 278 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: see it was all right, but I didn't feel less. See, 279 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: if I didn't go to camp, I would have went 280 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: to ER. I didn't want to stay in the state 281 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: because like as a kid, I was getting in trouble. 282 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: I was mister basketball. I was the best player. I 283 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: was going to the club and singing, you know, snooping 284 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: all them in there. I'm in I'm wearing my Lakers sweater. 285 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: Everybody think I'm in the league. I'm to get in, 286 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: so it up. I was like, man, if I stay here. 287 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: I knew myself, I stay here, I ain't gonna make it, 288 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: and I want to go to the league. So I 289 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: got out as far as well as possible. It ain't 290 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: nothing to do. 291 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 5: That's why, straight up. 292 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: And then I love the environment. Trusted Roy. You know, 293 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: he never promised me nothing. You know, all the other 294 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: coaches promised you, like you're gonna be the man you're 295 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: gonna Starty was like, I can't promise you that. I 296 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: was like, all right, he being real with me. 297 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 4: I tell you one thing that I never forget about 298 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: Roy did. I still to this day admire and love 299 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 4: about him because he recruited me hard. Like I say, 300 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: I told you how close I was. If it wasn't, 301 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: he probably definitely been there. But I remember telling me, 302 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: like when we were sitting there, he was like listen, 303 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: you know he count to your house at all the 304 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: rings and all of that stuff, and he told me 305 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: he was like, I know how this is. You know, 306 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: he talking that little country. 307 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: Accent and he's like like he like, listen when I 308 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 5: walk through this door I had. 309 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: I'm a fan of queen Ridge, and he was like, 310 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: I know how this process goes and all that. He 311 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 4: was like whether you come to my school or not. 312 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna always be a fan of Queen Rich And 313 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: every time might have always saw him, likely it's only 314 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: been a few times, but he still was still soilid. 315 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: It wasn't like no bitterness or no nothing. And I 316 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: respected that about him, like that's a side. And then 317 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: you see that when you look at all of the players, 318 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: the former players, you know, as recent as the boy 319 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: Kobe White, how his relationship is with him, Like do 320 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: you always get to feel that it's always a solid, 321 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: genuine fine. 322 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: Time of his guys. 323 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: So I always love Roy. 324 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: He pushed me. 325 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm telling you he made me. He made me a. 326 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: Player, what made me stay another year. 327 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: So like I was projected to go between after my sophomore, 328 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: y'all's projected go between six and seventeen. And so I'm thinking, like, 329 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: damn big, you know, mentally I'm just wasn't. I wasn't 330 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: physically or mentally ready. And I was like, you know, 331 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back one more year, learned a little more, 332 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna try to be the number one pick. 333 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna be preseason All American. I got 334 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: a chance to win national Player of the Year, and 335 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: so I said, you know, I'm gonna come back and 336 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: be the number one pick because like me and Chauncey. 337 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: I remember me and Chauncey. You know, we went to college. 338 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: He went to Colorado. So we used to talk and 339 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: he's like, we're gonna come out together. Then Chauncey caught me, 340 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: like I'm out. I was like, damn. You know, Chauncey 341 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: was like top five. He was like the number one 342 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: or two point door in the country. He was a sophomore. 343 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: I was like, damn, So I'll stay then other year 344 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: be the number one pick. Though, you got it, I'll 345 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: see you next year. 346 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: Go straight up. 347 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: When you got drafted, did you think it was gonna 348 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: be somebody else than the Celtics. 349 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: Man, I didn't even work out for the Celtics. I 350 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: didn't even work out. 351 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: Didn't work out for the clip you know. 352 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: Look, I was projected to be the number two pick, 353 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: which was Vancouver, which is miss miss Grizzlies right now. 354 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: So the first pick was the Clippers Elgin Baylor, So 355 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: I work out for that. I wanted to be the 356 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: number one. I was like, I worked out for them. 357 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: I worked out for him. I'm like, all right. So 358 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm like I'm projected go number two. I'm thinking I'm 359 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: locked at the number two. And I called him like, man, 360 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: call my a man, give me another workout with them. 361 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: I want to go home and be the number one pick. 362 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: I was like, nah, I begged them for another workout, like. 363 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 364 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: And then so, man, I remember the top ten teams, 365 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: top five to ten players that went before me to 366 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: this day, and so when I didn't go in the 367 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: top five, I started sliding. I was like, damn, So 368 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: now I'm eaning back in the chair, like I don't 369 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: know where the hell I'm going now, seven come a 370 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: come nine come. I'm like, then ten come like Celtics. 371 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: You know, I hated the Celtics. I know, I'm a 372 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: Laker fan, dog like like the Celtics. Like so it 373 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: was like, you want to smile because you getting drafted. 374 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm in the back of my head like there's some 375 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: bullshit exactly straight up. You know, stuff happened for a reason. 376 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You just never know where 377 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna get point what direction you. 378 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 3: Get to Boston. 379 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: And one of the people, just my ogi we looked 380 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: up played against them battle against them Antoine Walkers, oh man, 381 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: Like I feel like he's one of them players too, 382 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: that the unsown heroes that really don't get the cred 383 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: of changing the powerful position in the game. And how 384 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: he used to play speak on Twine, like, what do 385 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: you mean? 386 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: He was my big brother? Like he just took me 387 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: under his wing. 388 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: Everybody's I went everywhere with him practice. We're gonna talk 389 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: ship to each other. I remember my first practice, he 390 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: talking mass shit. I'm like, whoa, what's going on here? 391 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: So I was like, hold on because I wouldn't know. 392 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 5: I wasn't. 393 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: I was like, you ain't about to be talking to 394 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: me like this. I'm about to stay in my ground homeie. Yeah, 395 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: like because we was on opposite teams and he just 396 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: pushed you though. He just like but I always came 397 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: from like that, the playground, you know. I grew up 398 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: and it wasn't no like kids. Now, I ain't had 399 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: no train to work me out. I'm working. I'm at 400 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: the playground every day on the weekend. I'm like, so 401 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: this is my plackground mentality. And he got the same thing. 402 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: We're gonna go. We're gonna go to the parklay against 403 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 2: older people, They're gonna talk shit to you. And if 404 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: you if you bow down, if you cr up, you 405 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: ain't gonna be able to play there no more. So 406 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: you better stand up or you're gonna get ran out. 407 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: So that's how that was. But I love him for that. 408 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: He on and off the court man and he he 409 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: don't get the respect. He really like how these kids 410 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: play today. He was doing that back then. 411 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 5: All of that like how people come on bro. 412 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 4: He got one of the most legendary quotes, like hey, hey, 413 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 4: that twine, why you shoot so many threes? 414 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: Because it ain't no four foreigners. 415 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: Talking about I'm talking about gonna do it And I 416 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: don't care what you're saying, Like looking at everybody, it 417 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: ain't like you. 418 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: Know, it's so crazy too, so like you know, he 419 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: had the wiggle. Everybody looked at it like like they 420 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: founded at like fast media. Now that's a normal thing today. 421 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: It's like, man, they looking at him like he's a 422 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: bad guy. And he had fun and nobody liked that, 423 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: be humble, do this, but he's just having fun. But 424 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: now like everybody do it and this, and. 425 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: Now it's like, look at his passion for the game, 426 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 5: and he's so. 427 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: Like bron nothing but passion and nothing but a twine 428 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: like they. 429 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: I just hate the way the narrative be because he 430 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: was legit. 431 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 4: A boy the entire time, like and the whole, like 432 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: anybody in his period, everybody gonna show their respect. Everybody 433 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: knows like it's outside people, you know, the people that 434 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 4: some of the people in the media and whatnot. 435 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: And trust me, I'm talking about after you. Man, he's 436 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: the party love. But he really took me under his wing. 437 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 3: Man. 438 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: I love man, y'all chemistry together, the way y'all played together, 439 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: y'all encouraged each I remember when we first got to 440 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: the league and man, just seeing y'all put I liked 441 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: how y'all squad was put together with Eric Williams and 442 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: all that stuff. 443 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: And y'all was. 444 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Going through them battles with New Jersey with Jason Kidd 445 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: and and all them, and I know y'all was fighting 446 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: for them titles them days. But I remember how how 447 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: like what type of team y'all was, A grinding team. 448 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: Y'all was kind of way different than the team that 449 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: we just went the championship with. Or yeah, like how 450 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: they play today. Yeah, like I'll be looking like, yeah, 451 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: go the state. They changed the way we played. 452 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: I was like, in two thousand and two, this is like, 453 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: if you go back and look at our taste we 454 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: had to stretch for. Yeah, we had put three around one. Yeah, 455 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: we shot forty fifty threes a night. And I'm like, 456 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: that's the way they play now. 457 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 4: But it's just funny, like how you say everything is 458 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 4: looked that different now because the five when we was 459 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: with Phoenix, when we was letting that thing fly, oh man, 460 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 4: seventeen attempt from three nineteen attempts to three like letting everybody, 461 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: Joe letting it go, Barbosa letting it go. 462 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 5: Tricks were shooting three. 463 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: Let me tell you about Phoenix. That had to be 464 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: the fastest team I ever played against. Dog Like it 465 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: was straight up like if you laid the ball up, 466 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: you ain't had time. I was so time the first 467 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: quarter every time we played Phoenix, because they gonna get 468 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: the ball out and throw it the head. I was like, damn, 469 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: it was like a track meet. 470 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: With y'all's pushing that Jones, every big Steve Hunter running 471 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: fast and seven for the Steeds the wind right. I know, 472 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: y'all get over the hump, but when Twine got traded, 473 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: and now it's just you by yourself that I remember 474 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: them like them. 475 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: First I think it was like two years or something 476 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 3: like that. 477 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 5: Man that hurt, but then Superman but still like this. 478 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: We went to the Eastern Conference finals, so I thought 479 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: we was building something. Yeah, you know, you're thinking like, okay, 480 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: we're not far from a championship. But then it's just 481 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: after that conference finals appearance, it was like we regressed. 482 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 2: We started losing players. Then he traded. Then we went 483 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: to a whole I'm starting prime. Now we re re rebuilding, 484 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like, hold on, what's going on? You know? 485 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: So that one hurt when we lost when we traded 486 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: Twin Yeah, I ain't gonna even lie. 487 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: Then you know, you go through them sorrow years of losing. 488 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: You ain't never really lost in your career. But then 489 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: you get a trade for Ray Allen, You get a 490 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: ticket that summer, and the hype around, you know, as 491 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: NBA player's competitor, we be like, oh ship, then the 492 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: motherfuckers with the crown. 493 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: Now we gotta look. 494 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: So look we put the trade together, and I ain't 495 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: gonna I remember a lot and then me and him, 496 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: this dude, right here. We had our battles. I don't 497 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: even know, like we we I don't even know where our 498 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: ship came from. Like, but we put our team together. 499 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: And I remember a quote from him they ain't one 500 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: ship yet or something. 501 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 5: I remember this. 502 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: I don't know what, like, because everybody was like we 503 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 2: was on all the cover of the magazines. And then 504 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: I heard something from Q they ain't one ship yet, 505 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: Like this is pre season. You know what this fucker 506 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: right here, it's always something for him. 507 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: They gay up, they gay out the crowd. But it 508 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: was well deserved. 509 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: Like what y'all put together was like perfect, and then 510 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: you get a wild caught in Rondo and then you 511 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: get all these young guys just willing to listen to 512 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: everything that y'all and Doc say. 513 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: So it was like, yeah, it changed. 514 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 5: You know how we changed? 515 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: You know how we said the NBA players and we 516 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: sit at home during the off season, and then it 517 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: be that one trade or that two trade changed. It 518 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: was like we were looking at the Lakers and all 519 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, no, we gotta pay attention to them, 520 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: and all the Celtics or the Miami Heat or whoever 521 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: it is, you know, and everybody antennas go up when 522 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: you see that. So with y'all, it definitely did. You know, 523 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: everybody was gonna give you all y'all best shut. 524 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: But that was the symbolic of what our error was too. 525 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's different. We weren't gonna 526 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: sit back and just listen, like all right, I was 527 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 4: playing for the next then. So it's like every single 528 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 4: interview they come in, they talking about y'all every after 529 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: a second, like what they did they like, man, listen, 530 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 4: like going on with that, like you know what I'm saying, 531 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: But like that was the difference of how we were. 532 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 4: We were gonna get agitated by that and say some 533 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: shit like that's just. 534 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: How we were. 535 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 4: We were competitive and we weren't going We weren't that generation. 536 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: That's not knocking this generation because I'm a fan of 537 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: everything as long as basketball, I'm a fan. But I 538 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: was saying this the other day, like I wish that 539 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 4: I would have went through my career like I never 540 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 4: would have took the pictures on the court like they do, 541 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 4: but I wish I'd have got a lot of dudes jerseys. 542 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 4: But I never I would have stood up there, and 543 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 4: you know, did all that, but like I definitely was 544 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 4: too competitive. We were way too competitively. But I see 545 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: you damn Jersey like that was that was our. 546 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: Disposition supposed to it is now it's. 547 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: More like I can't hate against it though now. But 548 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: because like what I do love about this generation they 549 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: all boys and they work out, which is cool, but 550 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: they do business together too. I wish that we was 551 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: more none of that, like you know what I'm saying. 552 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: That's what I like about this. 553 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 4: Our generation was was gonna if somebody found a secret, 554 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: they was gonna say hold on. 555 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: And they set the narrative, you know what I'm saying. 556 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: But they got allowed like this era got more of 557 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: a voice too. Though with the social media, they don't 558 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: give a damn. Like it's more people demanding trade. You know, 559 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: we demanded trade. It was gonna be like outcast city 560 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: whole articles like you know, it's gonna like now you 561 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: got you can control you can control them that voice. 562 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know back then it was play basketball. 563 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Shut up, we play you to play basketball. 564 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: Show. You can't do nothing outside. 565 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: We don't want you to do a movie or TV 566 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: show or put too many commercials out of you. That 567 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: means you you're doing commercials every day, you're not working 568 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: on your game. 569 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: You get Caz. 570 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: I heard the energy and training camp from from the 571 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: training camp all the way. 572 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: The whole season was just different. 573 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: And I know you going from them battles with twe 574 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: and then you had them couple of losing seasons and 575 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: then you get this trade on or something and then 576 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: this training camp that with a coach like Doc, that's 577 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: with the ship from Chicago. 578 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: The most intense thing I ever been a part of. 579 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't been around KG, but at this 580 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: point we go to Rome. I'm talking about it's the 581 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: loudest practice, it's the hardest practice, and he set the 582 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: bar every day because you know, when you're out there 583 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: by yourself, I'm the lone star. It's like around the twine. 584 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: Never been around other great players. And it's like, so 585 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm looking I'm looking at how he worked, I'm looking 586 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: at his intensity, and now it's picking me up and 587 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: now I'm doing more and now I'm like, now my 588 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: mentality go to another rule. You know. So I'm looking 589 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: at this every day. I'm seeing ray work, I'm seeing 590 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: ticket work, and I'm like, I'm trying to I'm trying 591 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: to match or do better, but we were constantly doing 592 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: it to each other, so now it's pushing us to 593 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: be even better. Like KG get there like eight am, 594 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna get there at seven thirty. Then 595 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: the next day he get there at seven and beat me. 596 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: Oh no, I need to get there at sixty. Like 597 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: That's how it was, but it made us better. 598 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: That's the one thing. 599 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: Like when it comes to KG, like throughout the whole 600 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 4: time since I got in the league and when I 601 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 4: first got to play against him, and see like always 602 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: used to be like you gotta be spun, like physically 603 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 4: spun after every time, cause he'd be so lock, so intense, 604 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 4: and it's like bro, and it's like you. 605 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 5: Know how you play against people? All right? He faking 606 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 5: right and saying no, bro. 607 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: This is this is every time, like you can watch it. 608 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: He did something for teen and some where he did 609 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: like a hype video and he would just talk. 610 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 5: I was like, bruh, this man ready to go run 611 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 5: through a big wall right now? 612 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 4: He talking and had That's what I used to be 613 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: sitting there looking at that like bruh, how that feel 614 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 4: to be around that every single day? 615 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: That see, this is how I measure greats. You know 616 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So like, you got the great players 617 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: throughout history and they probably won, But how do you 618 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: influence your teammates? 619 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 3: Right? 620 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: You know that's a big factor in me when I 621 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: look at great players, like how did you make them better? 622 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: You know, you could just be great on your own? 623 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: Like it's a lot of great players on their own, 624 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: but like, how do you motivate the other guys? Just 625 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: every day I knew I had to be ready mentally. 626 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't no bullshitting, but I wanted that. I was like, 627 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: now I'm in a position I got a chance to win, 628 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. All these other bullshit years, 629 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm done with they. I don't even 630 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: want to be around this no more. And then we 631 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: bring in KG. But that that was an honor to 632 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: just see that every day. You know a lot of 633 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: a lot of players, you know, you you had a 634 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: chance to be y'all had a chance to be around 635 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: some great and you see how different it was. Like 636 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: it's an honor. And I wish every player in the 637 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: NBA have a chance, because it's not everybody a great. 638 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 5: Everybody don't get a chance. 639 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: Great teammate, like you don't get a chance to play 640 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: with Lebron or Kobe or you know, like to really 641 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: see it first half and to watch it every day 642 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: influence everybody on and off the court and say, I 643 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: was like I shared it with him. 644 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: That was an honor, straight up. 645 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: That's how That's how I feel about Steve nash Bro 646 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: because it was like that I only played with him 647 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 4: for that one year, but for me, that was my 648 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 4: like you said, that was my first time playing. He 649 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 4: was the MVP that year, so that was like my 650 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: first time and just just his presence, know what I'm saying, 651 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 4: what he meant everywhere we win. It was like damn, 652 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: like these people love Steve. It was like it's my 653 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: first time being around, Like, oh, you for real a superstar? 654 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: Then you y'all won a championship. Y'all go you know, 655 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: y'all go through Lebron, y'all go through all that you 656 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: find to play against the Los Angeles Lakers, your childhood 657 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: team that you grew up loving and watching, and like 658 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: you got to play the Lakers, Like how did that 659 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: moment feel? 660 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: And you know, after you want. 661 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: It like what you felt about it, dude, that was 662 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: a dream come true, like straight up, like even though 663 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: like growing up I'm a Laker fan, I wanted to 664 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: be a Laker, but I'm not a Laker. Now I'm 665 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: on the Celtics. I'm playing the Lakers in the championships. 666 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: Like how ironic is this? You know what I'm saying? 667 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: A kid from La Inglewood playing Boston going to the 668 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: championship versus the Lakers. It was like storybook for me. 669 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: It was just like, man, I couldn't have asked for 670 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 2: a better script. Now I'm a part of history just 671 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: matching up with him in the final. This is what 672 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: got me into basketball, watching Lakers, watching this ribery, watching Magic. 673 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: Magic was my favorite player, and so now I'm a 674 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 2: part of this, this lure and to beat them, it 675 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: was just like, man, sounds like a dream come true. 676 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: And get the MVP versus Kobe, Like that was like, man, 677 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: you know what I did? 678 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: So we won. 679 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: We all go to Vegas kicking. So I got the 680 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: m v P trophy. I come back to La I 681 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: live out here, man, I go to Katana right there 682 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: on sunset, and I put the MVP trophy right on 683 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: the table outside boom like fifteen of my boys in 684 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: there having drinks everybody. I'm feeling myself right there, right, 685 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: I'm feeling myself right now. I'm at Katana outside. You 686 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: know how the fatty I put the trophy right there? 687 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: Oh they was hating Dad. Oh no, I'll never forget that. 688 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: Then let me tell you another story. So we lose 689 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: to the Lakers in twenty ten, and I'm sitting in 690 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: Johnny Rockets with my boy and this kid coming Johnny Rockets. 691 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: He must have heard I was there. Went back, kid 692 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: coming here with the biggest Laker flag I ever seen. Right, 693 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the flag. It was a pole. It 694 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: was a pole. He walked in. It was like, hey, Paul, 695 00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: can you sign my flag? Almost lost? Almost lost. I 696 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: was like, hey kid, if you don't get your ass 697 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: right now, trying to be cautious, you don't get your 698 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: ass out of here right now. So heated. I was like, 699 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: oh man, I tell people this story. Doll was like, 700 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: oh man, look, it always come back to you. 701 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: Rajon Rondo, Like when I went to that training camp 702 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: after y'all won a championship. Know, he was hooping before 703 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: training camp starting, and I'm looking at Rondo and just 704 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: how much of a court leader that he was, how 705 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: he played, it seemed like it clicked, especially like after 706 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: that championship. You're just like he really clicked. I'm calling 707 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: my homeboys back. No Rondo top five point boards. I'm 708 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: telling you, man, this ain't a flu. He doing this 709 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: every year. Now, you know what I'm saying, the mentality 710 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: and Rondo. What you think about Rondo? 711 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: I think he took on our personality too, because I 712 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: know KG really took Rondo under his wing. Then after 713 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: we won, he just be turned into a monster like 714 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: he's talking about twenty assists, nights, fifteen rebounds. I'm like, dude, 715 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: we had to give him the keys. It was like 716 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: we was old G's and you know when you old 717 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: Jesus show this our ship. But it was just like 718 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: we gotta get his youngsters. Here go, he go have 719 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: some of these kids run. He running, you doing too much. 720 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: We can't hate on you. You know what I'm saying. 721 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: You know we can't he here go do you? And 722 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: we just gave the keys. That gave the keys, and 723 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: he just turned into a monster like he was putting 724 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: up numbers that you only seen them video games. From 725 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: a point guard like eighteen points, eighteen rebounds, like twenty 726 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: assists like dann what just like for real, Like if 727 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: you don't see them numbers from a point guard, you 728 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: wasn't seeing them from point guards in two thousand and not, 729 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: especially with the rebounds and even the eighteen nineteen assists. 730 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: It was crazy. It was crazy. 731 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: I just I wish we could have got three championships 732 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: runs out of y'all. Y'all in the Lakers them three years, 733 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: and we could have seen that we got three hurt 734 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: that next year and then got hurt. 735 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: But you know, things having for a reason. We had 736 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: a good run. You know, when we came together, we 737 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: was like, we want to get two out of this. 738 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: That was our goal. You know, we even talked about 739 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: we can squeeze two out of this. That's what our 740 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: goal was. 741 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: But you know, and I liked you like the pieces 742 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: that complimented your team, the p J Browns to Tony Allens, 743 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: the so you. 744 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: Had a baby, Yeah, big baby had the biggest piece. 745 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what the biggest unsung My god, pose. 746 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get the name. 747 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't get it out of polls. 748 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: Right from that one, especially that was the year big shots, 749 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: big shot big shots. 750 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Pose was like one of the big glug guy you. 751 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: One of my favorite like that. 752 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: Ever, it's what guys that help you win championships career. 753 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: The way poles play created the way Tony Yallen became 754 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like how how Tony Y 755 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Allen became more like it's just like all right, I 756 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: just got to hit a shot and I gotta really 757 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: lock up, you know what I'm saying. 758 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 2: I Pose had more of a jumper, but Tony, Yeah, 759 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: he was more grimy. 760 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: He brought his. 761 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: One of the dopest nicknames in NBA history is The 762 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: truths love your nickname. I feel like if it fits 763 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: you perfect, Like man, what does it mean for the 764 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: world to call you the Truth? 765 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: And I mean I think the first part about it 766 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 2: is who gave it to me? You know, Shock gave 767 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 2: me the nickname. So it's like, damn, it's coming from Shock, 768 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: the prime Shack saying like the truth, you know what 769 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying, and they're just stuck and after after I 770 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: like game, I'm like a good photo piece or something, 771 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: just like you know, watch out. Paul Pierce's he my 772 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: fucking truth. He said it just like that, And so 773 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 2: it's a big article on Boston next day, the Truth 774 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: when they're just tund of stuck. So I was like, shoot, 775 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 2: that's that point. At that point, I felt like, all right, 776 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: all ride right, I got a nickname now. And now 777 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm hearing people calling me that. I'm like, okay, that's respect. 778 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: That's when you went and got the tattoo and everything. 779 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: You know, I got the tag. 780 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: Take this away, take this away. 781 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: But I'm like, oh, I didn't made it. You know, 782 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: you get a nickname, you. 783 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 3: There, you there, You get a nickname, straight up. 784 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: That's the thing about today, And I tell people today 785 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 2: they gonna they don't have no more nicknames. 786 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 4: It's gone, like the real genuine dope ain't know. 787 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: Like I mean, I'm looking at all the nice players 788 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: who who got the outside of You got King James, 789 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 2: but who what's Kevin dur France should have a nickname. 790 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: Everybody said Spider he got a cool and Spider Mitchell, 791 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: you know. 792 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: Don't got as much as they had him back there. 793 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like I ain't seeing the shoes, you know, 794 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: they still gonna be named the shoes after him. 795 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 5: I don't see no more like the answers. 796 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I get the answers. 797 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk about your game 798 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: because I played small full and I was messed up 799 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: with you a lot, and like. 800 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 3: Your step back. 801 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: Your step back was like I never paid attention to 802 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: nobody doing the step back until I played against you, 803 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: because that was like a patented move. Like, oh, if 804 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: I get this step back off, this ship is old 805 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: with like playing in Portland, I was playing you. When 806 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: I was playing you good, I had a good game, 807 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: and Ruben at the end of the game was like, no, 808 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: I want to get him. So he came and got 809 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: you right, And it's like I'm guarding the other guy 810 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: and I can basically just tell him everything that you're 811 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: finna do. And you step beck this ass and yeah, 812 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: like step back, Like where did you get that from? 813 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: What made you get so comfortable with the step back movie? 814 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: Man? You know, it was just something I worked on 815 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: and I can't really say where I really got it. 816 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: Maybe you know, since I wasn't the fastest guy and 817 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't like I was strong, so if I get 818 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: you on my side, but I was just like, shoot, 819 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: I really hadn't use my game like jazz stuff. And 820 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: I did it one day and I remember earlier. I 821 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: believe I did it in my first year and I 822 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: was working on it, and I was like, this was 823 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: a move right here because I saw how much space 824 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: it created, because you know, when you learning a game, 825 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 2: we always talking about space, how you're gonna create space. 826 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: And I was like, I ain't nothing creating more space 827 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: than this, Like I'm getting this much room to get 828 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: a jumper off. And so I just worked on it, 829 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: going left, going left, going right, going left, and I 830 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: did it every day, do it every day. I had 831 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: a little ball with coming garcass boom boom doing it 832 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: every day. People are practice and I was like, man, 833 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: this is Letho right here. 834 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 3: Your step back was so good. 835 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: I rather sent you to your your right let you go, 836 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: because I rather send you right. 837 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 3: And let you even though you can step back right. 838 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 2: Too, But I want to go left and step back, but. 839 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: You wanted to go left and step back. And then 840 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this. I'm a dunker. You 841 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: got bodies. People people. 842 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 4: Two things like when you step back because I seen 843 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 4: you on the jump or something, they was trying to 844 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 4: act like that you didn't like you wasn't one of 845 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 4: the like first like I was watching that, like, first 846 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 4: of all, that's real talk, Like I want to say, 847 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 4: but go look at the tape. They don't lie like 848 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 4: it's there, Like I was doing this and doing it well, 849 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 4: like and with the dunks, because they tried you with that. 850 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 2: Too far that this generation only saw late me when 851 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: I like when I was an athletic, but early y'all 852 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: from dunk. 853 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 5: A couple of. 854 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: Using the body like you all the dunks you dumped on, 855 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: all the people you dumped on? 856 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 3: Who was that one? And you was like, man, that's 857 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 3: my favorite one. 858 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 2: I'm gonna probably say Zo. I called Zoe pretty good 859 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: one time. I was like, I called him almost like 860 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: the ves. We could see people don't believe it back 861 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: body though, And remember I remember this. I was like, 862 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 2: oh I just called Zoe. 863 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody want to Everybody wanted dunk because I was 864 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: going to get every That's why. 865 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 4: That's why everybody wanted the dunk on Zo and a 866 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 4: lot of people did because you do it for everything. 867 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 5: You know. 868 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 869 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: I was in Miami playing with Portland, went to the 870 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: whole and I could have dunked it, but I didn't 871 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: feel like he was old too. I didn't feel like 872 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,439 Speaker 1: his old ass was gonna get that right. 873 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 3: So he whined up wipe getting a bit the reil 874 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 3: right here. He wind up blocking that. 875 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 5: Bitch right here, right like that. 876 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: Guess what he sent me a picture of him blocking 877 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: my shot. He said a d miles, Thanks for the 878 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: thousand block. 879 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, it was on you killed me. You're welcome. 880 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: I hate that ship to this day that I got 881 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: the thousand blocks. 882 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 2: I couldn't be nine ninety nine I got. 883 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 5: I got a photo up to a man my thousand blocks. 884 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's me right there. 885 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 4: That's a good one right there, speaking of what you said, 886 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 4: right because because the funniest ship, like when we talk 887 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 4: about me and Yo beef right like you look up 888 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 4: literally like I didn't been looking for some ship on 889 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 4: the internet, like I type my name and looking for 890 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 4: some shit. 891 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 5: I just seen stuff. 892 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 4: Pop on the internet, like Paul Pierce and Q Ridge 893 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 4: beef Like it started when they were at Kansas on 894 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 4: these visits. It was with a girl, it was with this, 895 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 4: it was man, well this is crazy, like it literally. 896 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: We was hooping. 897 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 4: This was like summer of maybe I don't know when 898 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 4: it was definitely dumb, dumb, dumb earl in l A. 899 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 4: And it continued like we played in the summer l A. 900 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 4: We played in Chicago and hoo me, you and and 901 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 4: I'm talking about me and him against you and Twine 902 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 4: were talking about trash and that's that's really what. 903 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 5: It's I think. 904 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: I think that's where it do come from. 905 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 4: Because it was like, all right, were competing, we're talking trash, 906 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 4: and then it's like you come from the same type place. Whereas, 907 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 4: like you said earlier with with Twine whole, I ain't 908 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 4: about to us about the curl up. Its about to 909 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 4: be this. So it was neither one of us back 910 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 4: and down and it was legit. We got thrown out 911 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 4: of game everything. Martin Luther king. 912 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 5: Day in New York in the garden, we both like, 913 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 5: he says something. 914 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 4: I'm like, whatever, I say something. He goes you get 915 00:42:54,400 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 4: the box double take, and it's like he says something. 916 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 4: We get taped out the game in the. 917 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 3: Hallway on a black holiday. 918 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 5: Miami. He did, oh. 919 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 2: Man, when we was in when he was in Miami, 920 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,959 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna forget this either I fail or something. 921 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the playoffs. Player in front of the 922 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 2: bench or something, and then he came and stood over me. 923 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: I was like what, I'm just like. 924 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 5: He came trying to carry me out after the game. 925 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 4: I can promise you I remember the interview going off. 926 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 4: I got my wife beat on the interview. I'm already knowing. 927 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 4: You know, at this point, I'm off the chain. They 928 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 4: over there, they trying to talk to me. I'm sitting 929 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 4: there like what, like, you know what I'm saying? 930 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 5: He like, he like, what was going on? Like, man, 931 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 5: I don't know what was going on? 932 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 4: Why you asking me? I'm like, I'm going after meeting. 933 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 4: He's saying somebody I said, I just don't like him, 934 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 4: and they know it. It was like you look at 935 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 4: the interview from Casey. He goes, He's like, man, I 936 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 4: ain't got nothing to do with that. My own it 937 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 4: was wrong. 938 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 2: We used to go at it like, yeah, probably extend 939 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: from the summer of me going Chicago. You in l 940 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 2: A U s l A Runs. I mean, I used 941 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 2: to always scrimmage with y'all, uh with y'all squad, just 942 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: with the Clippers, like the Southwest. 943 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 3: South We used to be up there south West College, 944 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 3: up there with y'all. 945 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: But it was just like I respected y'all and I 946 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 2: respected you. But it wasn't like I was just like man, 947 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 2: fuck him, Like, man, we're gonna compete. Get I mean, 948 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 2: we can get down, but I'm gonna bust your gast 949 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: or you're gonna try to bust mine. It was just 950 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 2: what it was like, that's really really first what's up? 951 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 5: What's up? 952 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: When we first got to the league, Like like I said, Man, 953 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: I love that you used to show. I remember the 954 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: first time I kind of like saying you kind of 955 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: saying something to it. 956 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 3: We was at uh Magic Johnson. 957 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: Then you know, we played a scene and then that 958 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: next year we played a scene and you was like, man, 959 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: I like y'all young boys many. 960 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 3: I like y'all youngy'all play hard. You know what I'm saying. 961 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't funk with these up in jerseys, but man 962 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: I get y'all ship. 963 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 2: You know I did. I was like, Man, I saw 964 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 2: you in high school at the Mickey D's in Boston. 965 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 3: I played in Boston, Boston at the game. 966 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, when I first saw you and I was 967 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 2: like he nice right there, you dunk and everything I 968 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: felt my first time the Boston at Boston at the 969 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: Mickey D's. I went to the game and saw you. 970 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that came down there and. 971 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: I didn't come after the game, but I remember I 972 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: was in the stands right there. 973 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 3: I remember seeing that was dope to that was a 974 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 3: dope experience of man. 975 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that on the park, like Baby told us 976 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: this story about the first by about the first day 977 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: in London and training camp, how he was late, he 978 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: missed the bus and y'all was having a team dinner 979 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: and came in with the little kid, like I rode 980 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: the bike from the little kid, like what you remember 981 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: from that story. 982 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: He got so many stories. I don't even know that day, 983 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: every day of the story been with that day he 984 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 2: said he got a ride or Baby got so many stories. 985 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 2: But what y'all go understand, you do a baby study 986 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: right in college drummer and theater, like we used to 987 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 2: hear every day for Baby, Like I don't know if 988 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get mad, Baby, I don't know if I'm 989 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 2: gonna get the love Baby. I don't know what Baby 990 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: gonna show up. Straight up, Baby, I gotta be prepared 991 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 2: for all of them, like straight up, man, He gave 992 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 2: us the wildest story, like yeah, had to jump in 993 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: the car, I hit hiked or I jumped on the 994 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 2: bike and I had so I can get to over here. 995 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 3: I was like, we was like what, like what what? Baby? 996 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 5: Let me ask you this. I don't know, maybe not. 997 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if you did it on your rookie 998 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 4: deal or when you first got bread, like tell me 999 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 4: something that you bought. It was just like now you're 1000 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 4: a grown up adult and you wouldn't. 1001 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 2: Never no, oh that I bought that, I would regret. 1002 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 5: I regret, but just you look back on I was 1003 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 5: a young boy. 1004 00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 3: Like damn, I paid this much for that. 1005 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: Man had to be a diamond necklace, Like I got 1006 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 2: a diamond necklace. Though it took him inte herey we 1007 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 2: came up in the air where you got you gotta 1008 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 2: get your jewelry right. 1009 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 5: Ay? 1010 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 2: I just made everybody changed. The whole culture of the 1011 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: league called the space say all the time, like you 1012 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 2: start catch wearing braids, tatty. Now you got to catch 1013 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 2: chained up everybody that's coming from AI that straight up. 1014 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 2: And so when he got the chair, I'm like, I 1015 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 2: gotta get my chain game, right. 1016 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 5: I show up and we were doing you pay. 1017 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 2: Like you look like a hundred. I think I pay 1018 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty, okay on a on a 1019 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: diamond change that I don't even wear no more. 1020 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 5: The nice love. 1021 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 2: My savement in my safe for years. 1022 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 4: First first change that we ever brought bro We broke 1023 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 4: that thing down like three times. 1024 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 5: It was the first one. Boy had Q rich design 1025 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 5: stoopid and. 1026 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 4: I'm talking about I was like, all right, like a 1027 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 4: couple of years, I said, I'm just getting cute. Had 1028 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 4: a big ass Q from that because it was still big, 1029 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 4: and I broke that down. 1030 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 2: Then I had like a bracelet coming with stupid stupid. 1031 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 4: Big boy jewelry boy hanging all the way down to 1032 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 4: your table. 1033 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 2: They starting to come back. Now I'm seeing a lot 1034 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 2: of these rappers do it. Yeah, but not the NBA 1035 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 2: players ain't doing it. 1036 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 4: But no, you said, the Quavos and the and the 1037 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 4: the baby baby man and. 1038 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 5: Boy had rings crows, her teeth fighting. 1039 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 4: They got all the boy they went to watch on 1040 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 4: each wrisk. Now, like I said, they can't tell time 1041 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 4: on them, one of them both from to Icy ain't 1042 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 4: none of I'm saying. They just big boy, What time 1043 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 4: you asked, what time they pull out their phone. 1044 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 2: I can't. 1045 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to forget this. 1046 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: You burn Andre Miller, Like y'all was like that generation 1047 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: of l A kids. 1048 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, they went to. 1049 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: Because it won't that many kids from l A that 1050 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: was in the league then. And then you look at 1051 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: the league now, it's like every team l A. 1052 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 5: I started l A. 1053 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was a whole It 1054 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 3: was a whole lot of Midwest and East. 1055 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 2: Coast right now, CALLI is killing, is. 1056 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: Killing to see from y'all era, from y'all three to 1057 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: now seeing like the west Brooks, the hard and Paul 1058 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: George the wise I. 1059 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 3: Can't even name, like real white Yeah. 1060 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: And they at the top of the list. Like how 1061 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 1: do you feel about just speak on like that transition 1062 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: from then and now, how do you feel about it 1063 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: right now? 1064 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean I feel like, you know, Cali ballers didn't 1065 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: really get respect. Yeah, when I came out, it was. 1066 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 5: Like it was coming. I was sold. 1067 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 2: Everybody, look straight up, he runs. That was that was 1068 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: the take on us. It was like, So that's why 1069 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure, especially when I was younger, 1070 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 2: when I'm in the league, they ain't a reputation, ain't 1071 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,439 Speaker 2: gonna be on me, like they gonna be like nah, 1072 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 2: you know. And then I wanted the guys coming up 1073 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 2: to see that. So now when you know, when you 1074 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 2: be in a certain way, they look at that James Harden, 1075 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 2: you know, I see I talked to James hard when 1076 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,959 Speaker 2: he was in college. You know, Westbrook also been around 1077 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 2: when he was a young kid. And I wanted to 1078 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 2: be kind of like that, that person that idol that 1079 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 2: come from the same place y'all come from. Like, look, 1080 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 2: we ain't soft out here. Y'all got to come out 1081 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 2: here and rep you know, we La casts, we Inglewood 1082 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 2: cast y'all got to come out here and rep. And 1083 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 2: I just try to set an example. And I know 1084 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 2: Baron did that too, and Andre Miller and so now 1085 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 2: you're seeing there, it's a different narrative on cash from LA. 1086 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: When you look at guys like Harden and Westbrook, you like, 1087 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 2: these cats is real. 1088 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 3: Deal, at least at least five of them. 1089 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 2: From George Kawhi, it's a different narrative on the LA ballers. 1090 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: Now, I feel like even us being Clippers, like we 1091 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 1: was a part of that era which catch from LA 1092 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: that came up and seen like ball even though We're 1093 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: from the Midwest, but like I feel like we're part 1094 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: of this West coast thing where you see these cats now, 1095 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: and you know, these cats admired the Baron Davis, you 1096 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: know y'all and all that stuff and came up and 1097 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: now you see so many of them. Trevor Reza, like 1098 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: I used to go to We used to go this 1099 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: high school game. He's a freshman at high school with 1100 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: a sign. Adams now like we used to go to 1101 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: the hospital game and just to see him have a 1102 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: successful career. 1103 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 3: For him and his family, all of them, the Yukon 1104 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 3: so like just to. 1105 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: See, just to see the new era of LA hoops 1106 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 1: was just like a dope scenery. 1107 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. They definitely changed the landscape. Yeah, without a doubt. 1108 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: So the Clippers got two homegrowns, you know, they got 1109 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: to Paul George and Kawhta Sea Cats from LA to 1110 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: go off and have their careers, to come back home 1111 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,240 Speaker 1: and try to make not the Lakers, but the unsung 1112 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: heroes a contender and bring them a tightle. 1113 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 2: What you think about I think that's the best food 1114 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 2: they could have done. And I'll tell you why, Because 1115 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 2: it's a Lakertown it's always gonna be Lakertown no matter what. 1116 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 2: But if you could be the first to do something 1117 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 2: like what Kawhi did in Toronto, you love forever. So 1118 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: then you become a pioneer. They can pioneer the Clippers organization. 1119 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 2: If they win a chip one, that's it. And then 1120 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 2: it's like you, they statue you the first one to 1121 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 2: do it. You a pioneer. And I thought that was 1122 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 2: like gutsye and like you know they I think they 1123 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 2: saw that. I mean, Kawhi already did it for a 1124 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 2: franchise where he's going to be immortalized in Toronto. He 1125 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 2: can do no wrong. One year I brought you all 1126 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 2: the chip. I'm out. I did what I had to 1127 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 2: do for y'all. But he can always go back there 1128 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: even free, do whatever you want. Whatever he he gonna 1129 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 2: get a statue out there. Play how many people you know? 1130 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 2: Playing one year for a franchise and go get a statue. 1131 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 5: He go get a statue. 1132 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 3: Can he do it two years in a row? 1133 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 2: I think they got a great shot. I think, like 1134 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 2: this is my thing. If Kawhi win this year, Like 1135 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 2: where do you rank him? 1136 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 3: You gotta be the best. You gotta be the best 1137 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 3: in the league. 1138 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 2: No, but I'm just saying like all time, We're talking 1139 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 2: all time. 1140 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 3: All time. 1141 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 2: Now, oh yeah, he got like him and Lebron right now, 1142 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 2: got a chance to be one of I don't I 1143 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 2: can't even think of one right now, but it could 1144 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 2: be one of very very few of players that won 1145 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: a championship with three different franchises. They only if they 1146 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 2: do it, if they do it. And so now it's like, damn, 1147 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 2: where where we're gonna put Kawhi in history now? If 1148 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 2: he here? And when that was like you know what 1149 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 2: that was like? Like when Dion went the Dallas in 1150 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:10,760 Speaker 2: one it was like and it's like, damn. 1151 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 4: Speaking in terms of the next five years, next five years, right, 1152 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 4: if you gotta start one of them bench one and 1153 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 4: cut one of them between Yannis Kawhi and Luca start 1154 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 4: bench cut for the next five years, who gonna who 1155 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 4: would you start bench cut over? Like this is everybody's 1156 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 4: in their prime and nobody shouldn't be aging out of 1157 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 4: their prime next five years? Who you starting benching and cutting? 1158 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 4: If you if you got what you're doing, Luka Donkic. 1159 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 4: This is gonna hurt me to say, honest and it's 1160 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 4: not has nothing to do with who I think is better. 1161 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 4: I think Kawhi is the best player out of them three. 1162 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 5: So you starting Kawhi, No, I don't, but I'm. 1163 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 2: Going off you said five next five years, I'm starting 1164 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 2: Luka Donkas Okay, Man's twenty years old and crushing the league. 1165 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 2: First of all, I'm benching Jannis okay, and I'm cutting 1166 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,399 Speaker 2: Kawhi only because he's the oldest right out of the three. 1167 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 2: But right now he's the best player. 1168 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:19,720 Speaker 3: Okay. 1169 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 2: So this ain't a shot at nobody. But you said 1170 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 2: the next five years, Luca Donkins is averaging thirty ten 1171 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 2: and he only twenty. You telling me get like, who 1172 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 2: do that? Lebron didn't even do that? Like straight up. 1173 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 3: You play one of my young boys. 1174 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 5: Man. 1175 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of his career right now. Bradley Beal. 1176 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Bradley Beal and John Wall 1177 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: Like im won the ones that root for them to 1178 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: succeed because I feel like they can do something like 1179 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 1: the experience you had down in Washington with them guys, 1180 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: and just talk about just them two guys in general. 1181 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 2: You know, at that point, I was like pretty much 1182 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 2: passed my and so I just was like a leadership bro, 1183 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,240 Speaker 2: so you know I want to give him. I watched 1184 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 2: them the year before they got put out, I think 1185 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 2: by Indiana, and I was like, they just need a 1186 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 2: little more leadership. 1187 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 3: You know. 1188 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 2: I can come in there and get his team something. 1189 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 2: You know, I ain't got. I ain't the star no more. 1190 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 2: But I can like give them a veteran presence, you know, 1191 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 2: I can make I can go steal a guy, you 1192 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 2: can go to to hit big shots. 1193 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 5: And when you yeah, I. 1194 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 2: Wasn't gonna give you, and it'd be certain nights, I'll 1195 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 2: get you twenty twenty five at most nights, and the 1196 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 2: ge between ten and fifteen at that point. But it 1197 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 2: was like that was the best, the most fun I 1198 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 2: had for one year. I was there because I had 1199 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 2: a chance to kind of mold them young boys. They 1200 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 2: really looked up to me. I saw them. I showed 1201 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 2: them how to work every day. I got there early 1202 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 2: every day, and then I look up when they I'm 1203 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 2: looking like, yo, I'm thirty six. Y'all need to be practicing. 1204 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 2: Y'all know y'all can't sit down today, you know. So 1205 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 2: I try to teach them habits and I feel like, 1206 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 2: you know, whatever they accomplish, you know, from this point, 1207 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 2: from that point on, my one year, I had a 1208 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 2: look was something to do with it. It's starting, you know, 1209 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 2: something in it. And I had an influence in in there. 1210 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 2: And like so when I see guys that I play 1211 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 2: with that I had a little bit of influence on it, 1212 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 2: make me proud like a big brother, you know. So 1213 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 2: like when I see Brad make the All Star team, 1214 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 2: I'll be like, I feel like, you know, man, hopefully 1215 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 2: I could have I gave him something to help him 1216 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 2: back to he reached that point, you know, So that 1217 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 2: made me feel good when I see them succeed like that. 1218 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: You had a long career, so for a phone and 1219 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: you get the opportunity to play in LA, not for 1220 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers, for the Clippers, but just but just to 1221 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: be in LA and just to get that experience of like, 1222 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: all right, I'm coming home every day, I'm at a 1223 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: Staples Center. I never thought I'd actually be playing in 1224 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. 1225 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 3: You know. 1226 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 2: That was like all right. When I was like, all right, 1227 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to the Clippers, it was like I had 1228 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 2: my mind like all right, it's time to start looking 1229 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 2: to a retirement. 1230 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I lived here. 1231 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 2: That's the reason I came to LA because I had 1232 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 2: some other places I could have win finished my career, 1233 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 2: but I'm like here, I get to be at home, 1234 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 2: finish it off way and started. You know, all my 1235 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: friends and family can coer be around them all year round. 1236 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 2: Because when you gone and you off in these other 1237 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 2: states for all these years other teams, time moved past, 1238 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: and you see, like you know, aunties and uncles and 1239 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,479 Speaker 2: friends getting old or passing away and you're not there. 1240 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 2: You miss so much. And so I was just happy 1241 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 2: to be close to moms because she was getting she's 1242 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 2: getting older, and like I could be around family and 1243 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 2: in my career and it was just like it wasn't 1244 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 2: no better way. And then Doc was the coach. What 1245 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 2: made it easy, you know, that's what made it easy. 1246 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 2: I got Doc, I got Sam Cassell, who I played with. 1247 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm really all I'm really doing is chilling now. 1248 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm just chilling evil, Like how much time get took 1249 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: out of our life, Like we missed a lot of 1250 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: holler miss a lot of stuff. We missed a lot 1251 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: of birthdays. We missed a lot of stuff. And you 1252 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: know you're playing a fifteen some career. You know, your 1253 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: career is like man, when you miss so many year, 1254 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: especially being on the whole other side of the country, 1255 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: real they. 1256 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 3: Seeing you two months out of the year. 1257 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 1: You want a vacation, You don't want to just what 1258 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 1: you want to get some some people go home a week. 1259 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so much. And people don't understand the sacrifice because 1260 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 2: then even when you're home, you start training. You know, 1261 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 2: you like, I ain't got time for ship regimen, got train, Like, yeah, 1262 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 2: that's the one. Like people say you have any regrets 1263 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 2: from your career, The only regret I have is missing 1264 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 2: out on like say like my kids first step or 1265 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: that learned teachers. Like when I'm gone, they get up 1266 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 2: and start walking, Like you know, that's like missing family stuff. 1267 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 3: Like your house live. You're just going thing and. 1268 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 2: You know it's not we can control. But you know, 1269 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 2: we're putting food on the table, We're helping like a 1270 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 2: lot of family members. 1271 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 4: What the alternative could be. We're very aware of that. 1272 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 4: So we're gonna keep this this grind going. I want 1273 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 4: you to talk about how I feel like you know 1274 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like all of us here, we poop 1275 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 4: different or whatever. 1276 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 5: Had Jersey retired, Like for you to have your jersey. 1277 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 4: Retired for the Boston Celtics, Yeah, like that, Like you 1278 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. First of all, it's rare for 1279 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 4: any NBA player to get their jersey retired by any 1280 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 4: organization period, But for you to get your jersey to 1281 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 4: go up in the legendary Boston Garden with the names 1282 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 4: in the in the in the in the legends that 1283 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 4: is going up, that would like talk about what how 1284 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 4: much that means? Especially coming from the whole start going 1285 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 4: forward circle you not even wanting to be there. 1286 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 5: The Lakers fan, the. 1287 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 2: Man that was like that gave me chills. Man when 1288 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 2: he called me that summer, when Win gross Bed called me, 1289 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 2: He's like, we want to retire your jersey in February, 1290 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 2: I was like what Already I was like, you know, 1291 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 2: this is something that drove me. You know, you go 1292 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 2: up here, you can't help but to look up exactly 1293 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 2: all these damn bad visitors, see all these damn numbers retired. 1294 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 2: You know, I know everybody number up there and the 1295 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,439 Speaker 2: player that go with it, And I'm like I had 1296 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 2: my eyes on that from day one though, Like I 1297 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 2: was like, shoot, I want my number up here because 1298 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 2: it ain't like no other place, you know what I'm saying, 1299 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 2: It's different, different Boston. And I remember my speech and 1300 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 2: I was like, shoot, if I said this exactly I 1301 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 2: said my speech when they retired. I said, if I 1302 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 2: never make the Hall of Fame, me getting my jersey 1303 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 2: retired in Boston is good enough. 1304 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 3: Straight up. 1305 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 5: That's that's prestige. Like straight up. 1306 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 2: I was like, that's good enough for me. 1307 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 4: So with your transition to like, you know, we all 1308 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 4: are basically in media now basically doing that, Like how 1309 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 4: was that going for you? And what made you want 1310 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 4: to do that? 1311 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 2: You know what? I didn't even know I was going 1312 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 2: to be doing it, but like, yeah, you know what 1313 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying. But like so like my last year with 1314 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 2: the Clippers, I worked the finals and so I was 1315 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 2: guessed on the whole finals and. 1316 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 5: I was just like pretty cool. 1317 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I like doing this, this is cool. 1318 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 2: And so after I retired, it was like I was asked, 1319 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 2: do I want to join the team, And I was like, 1320 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: because I'm looking at it, like shoo, I ain't doing 1321 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 2: nothing but everything I used to do in the locker. 1322 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 4: Room, what you're going and even if in the locker room. 1323 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 4: Like like for me, it was like I do this 1324 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 4: every single day at home. 1325 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 5: We sit here. 1326 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 4: It's just we sit here and we we we think, 1327 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 4: and we talked the game different than the average person. 1328 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 4: So we're sitting there even with him, even though he's 1329 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 4: not personally like on TV doing TV, he can do it. 1330 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 4: He sits there and we tell you, man that like 1331 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, We're breaking downs and all 1332 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 4: of that because. 1333 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 2: Just second I see what they coming, They're about to 1334 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: run this fade. I see it. Like we do this 1335 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 2: every day on the bus, the locker room. 1336 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 4: And we understand the language, the terms, the terminology from 1337 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 4: one team to the next, to play calling, all of that. 1338 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 2: It all comes second nature. And I was like, so, 1339 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 2: y'all gonna tire me to come out here and do 1340 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 2: something I really always do every day because. 1341 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 4: It's not you don't know what I was about to say. 1342 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 4: It's not many players I know that don't watch the game, 1343 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 4: but we'd be surprised this new generation. They'll get to 1344 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 4: the hotel and won't turn on the games. They plug 1345 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 4: in the video game. And I'm not saying I'm a gamer. 1346 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 4: I play two K and all that but always watched 1347 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 4: the games. 1348 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 3: You're not a gamer. 1349 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna go to dinner and watch the game or 1350 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 4: somewhere they don't watch the game. 1351 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 5: I'm not speaking for everybody, but there there's a good selection. 1352 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 5: I spent time. 1353 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 4: You know, I worked for the Pisons, and I've been 1354 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 4: around different groups and it's like I'm looking like, yo, 1355 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 4: y'all not watching the game tonight. 1356 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 3: You know what this generation to me? 1357 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 2: And I don't want to sound like a hater, but 1358 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 2: I feel like they do it more for They don't 1359 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 2: play for the passion or the competitive drive. It's more 1360 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 2: for their brand, for the cloud and the cloud and 1361 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 2: the bread. 1362 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 3: You know. 1363 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 2: It was like if I just go hard and I 1364 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 2: work harder, bread don't come. Whatever. 1365 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: We came in playing trying to get everybody respect, like man, 1366 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: we're good enough to play. 1367 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 4: With yobs, and like, for me, that's what I love 1368 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 4: about us having this, Like you know what I'm saying, 1369 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 4: I feel like the only reason we can have you come, 1370 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 4: We can have Kobe come, We have who will come. 1371 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 5: Because we weren't. 1372 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 4: All stars or superstars, but but you guys knew that 1373 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 4: every night, like you said, we had our we had 1374 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 4: what we had and you are. 1375 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 5: I'm nowhere near that, but we had to. 1376 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 4: Get our restaurants. That's that's what I'm saying. And it 1377 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 4: was like you like, that's why I can go to sleep, 1378 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 4: like you got internet shows and all this, Like you 1379 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. When I'm speaking, I'm just literally 1380 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 4: speaking on the pen. I ain't got no hate for nobody, 1381 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 4: even Lebron, like because people a lot of people think 1382 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 4: I hate on Lebron. 1383 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 5: I'm not hating on him. 1384 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 4: I just we venturing to the Kobe and Michael Jordan conversations. 1385 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 4: That's a different conversation for me, So I say certain 1386 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 4: things about that that may not be favorable for him, 1387 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 4: but that don't mean that he's not, bar none, one 1388 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 4: of the tops in the history of the game, and 1389 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 4: he doing stuff that nobody ain't seen and he's unbelievable. 1390 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 4: But it's just different. We talk about them too. But 1391 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 4: my thing is that we can me and d consider 1392 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 4: across from you, Kobe, even Lebron, because I played against 1393 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 4: him and he, to a man, he knowed it. I'm 1394 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 4: gonna show up and I'm not the caliber player y'all work, 1395 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 4: but goddamnit, you about to go to water Night and 1396 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 4: you're about to know that you went to water Night, 1397 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 4: and I'm cool with that. I'm like, you know what 1398 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying to me, that's my that's my trophy. When 1399 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 4: I see and I know that I got that respect 1400 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 4: from my peers, no matter what level they were, top level, 1401 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 4: this level, that level, I relate and I got that 1402 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 4: respect from him because it's it's you. And I know 1403 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 4: it's some Hall of famers and superstars that don't get 1404 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 4: that same level of respect because they weren't with it 1405 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 4: in a certain way. You know what I'm saying, Like 1406 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 4: they weren't built that way. I find I get my 1407 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 4: respect knowing that I was built that way. But even 1408 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 4: no matter what level somebody wanted to bring on, I 1409 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 4: was with it and they all knew it. 1410 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 2: Now, you ain't saying that a lot nowadays, though. 1411 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: That's what I say when you came up, like who's 1412 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 1: them players? Or who was that player that you was like? 1413 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 1: And I want to be like him? I want to 1414 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: be like that person. 1415 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 2: I mean it was magic. I mean I grew up 1416 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 2: a Laker fan. It was magic. But I was like, 1417 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 2: you know, the way I play, I can't, I can't 1418 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 2: gonna be magic as I got older. So it was 1419 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 2: Grant Hill and Steve Smith, Steve and these are three 1420 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 2: because I watched them all, and Jimmy Jackson because we 1421 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 2: all played Jimmy jack When the three then three, I like, 1422 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 2: I felt like I can be like them, like play 1423 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 2: like them. You know, even though I had I was 1424 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 2: a fan of Hero Miner, but I was like, these 1425 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 2: three Greg fit more of my gamest, Steve Smith the 1426 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 2: coolest O G Yeah, jim Jackson, So this was Jackson. 1427 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 2: I couldn't wait when they came on in college or 1428 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 2: the league I was watching. I was close eye on them. 1429 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 5: All three of them at Turner. 1430 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 2: Them is like, I don't know if I ever told 1431 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 2: them that, but you know if they hear this, they 1432 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 2: gonna know that they was guys that I like, really 1433 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 2: watched growing up. 1434 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 5: How was it for you the first time you played 1435 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 5: against m J. 1436 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 2: Man, I was like, that was my idol, And you 1437 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 2: know I had a chance to play against MJ. It 1438 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 2: started in Chicago. You know, he was playing thinking about 1439 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 2: coming back, and I was going out there with twe 1440 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 2: you know, he talking ship hitting fadeaway his owners. The 1441 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 2: next thing know, he went the Wizards I was like, man, 1442 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 2: because I like the year I came out of college 1443 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 2: got drafted, he retired, so I was disappointed. He just 1444 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 2: won the chip. So like, I'm playing against MJ. You know, 1445 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 2: this is my dream. And so then he retired. I 1446 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 2: was like, oh, no, that's that one thing you want 1447 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 2: to play against. You want to see this in person 1448 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 2: there and then he came back. But I don't it 1449 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 2: ain't It wasn't the same. 1450 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 4: It wasn't like I got pictures of the crib. You 1451 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 4: know every time I played, Like what you said, I 1452 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 4: wanted to play against me. That was what I wanted 1453 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 4: to I'm not gonna lie. 1454 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 2: But he still gave me. 1455 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 3: A good still. 1456 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: Forty years old average of twenty and the league and 1457 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 1: it still was school had was Yeah, for real. 1458 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 1459 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 2: That is but that was a dream just to just 1460 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 2: to be on the court with MJ. 1461 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:08,919 Speaker 3: It's a shot that you made. 1462 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: I think it was against Al Harrington and he was 1463 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: like kind of talking trash to him before you tell 1464 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like you told him what you're finna do, and 1465 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 1: you did it. 1466 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna just say this, I probably would have fought 1467 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 5: you after that. Liked ass I ain't that's what our 1468 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:26,720 Speaker 5: era was. 1469 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Like, you don't see that no more. 1470 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1471 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 2: I grew up watching g P and all these cats, 1472 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 2: like this is what it was. It just like we're 1473 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. We at it, we at it. 1474 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 5: Talking to sign it and I was like, you, like, 1475 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 5: I think about when. 1476 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:50,719 Speaker 2: You're watching that. That's like, oh okay exactly. I'm like, yeah, 1477 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 2: that's get that's getting me all hight. I'm like, man, 1478 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 2: that like that's what that to me is what playoffs is. 1479 01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 4: It is. 1480 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 2: Man, and we were great friends, but we was competing 1481 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 2: back and forth. That's what the game was. 1482 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 3: Then. 1483 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 2: That was like, come on, man, I'm like, I'm trying 1484 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 2: to find the edge out here. I don't like you 1485 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 2: this trying to get the dove out here. Yeah, I'm like, 1486 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 2: you know what I talked that a lot of people say, 1487 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 2: and this is what I tell people about me talking trash. 1488 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 2: I did it for me, yeah, because getting me going. 1489 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 2: It's getting me going now like I'm talking, I'm talking 1490 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 2: from trash and I'm like, i gotta back this up though. 1491 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 2: If talking to walk this walker, I'm gonna be talking. 1492 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 1: To KG was one of the ones that when he talked, 1493 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,639 Speaker 1: he didn't talk. He talked to himself. 1494 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 2: No, listen, this is the KG dude. He'll be talking 1495 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 2: to you. Would just be looking this way right here. 1496 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 2: He'll say something to you and then you be like what. 1497 01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 3: That was me? 1498 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,559 Speaker 5: Like what you're talking about? 1499 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 3: It seems like you talked to himself. 1500 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 2: He talked about like you're right here. At the free 1501 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 2: throw out, he'll say something like wood to woo, and. 1502 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,680 Speaker 4: You be like he's classy, like he used to be 1503 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 4: so classic, like like being like he'll throw you out 1504 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 4: like be all light. Then at the jump off and 1505 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 4: like you said, I like, no, my death, you up 1506 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 4: or something, But I don't look at you, not just 1507 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,080 Speaker 4: might respect you, but you like. 1508 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 2: Getting you know what I'm saying, like for real, like 1509 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 2: and then he get you know how he be when 1510 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 2: he gets all super sweat, he's gonna be super sweaty. 1511 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,519 Speaker 2: And then he get up close. This's another thing he 1512 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:44,040 Speaker 2: used to do. Man, he'd be so sweaty that when 1513 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 2: he blows growing and spit, it's not sweat growing and 1514 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 2: sweat and he in your face. He didne did that 1515 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 2: some cats and they like like ready to scrap with him, 1516 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 2: like dog and I tell K, I say, K, if 1517 01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 2: you ever do that to me, I'm like, if you 1518 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 2: ever do that out hands on, you just know that. 1519 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 2: Like some of the stuff he would do, like this 1520 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 2: is one I'll never forget. He dunked so hard over 1521 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:21,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Bogan, Andrew Bogan go for everything. He dunked it, 1522 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 2: and you know it's already enough to get dunked on. 1523 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 2: But then he dunked him, looked at him and then 1524 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:35,679 Speaker 2: shot him a bow to his chest. Dog, you already 1525 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 2: dunked me. And then was like. 1526 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 3: I was like, no, he did not just do that. 1527 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 2: I was like, dag. I said to him that, I said, 1528 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 2: if you ever did me like that? 1529 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 5: Dog. 1530 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 2: He had a lot of the moments like still he 1531 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 2: would do that. I couldn't believe more people wouldn't fighting 1532 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,400 Speaker 2: like straight up like he was like straight up like 1533 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,720 Speaker 2: not only embarrass you and just make you just I'm 1534 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 2: looking like, how does he getting away? Is everybody scared 1535 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 2: a tick like this? He look crazy and he looked 1536 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 2: so high that you just he might tear your head 1537 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 2: off his intensity. So if you don't match that, it's 1538 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 2: definitely another level. 1539 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,679 Speaker 4: Things I've ever seen is when you hit the game, 1540 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 4: when in New York, came out of nowhere and missed. 1541 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:34,400 Speaker 2: He dies light flash because he already got too much. 1542 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 2: Times he jumped, I didn't even see him, like I 1543 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 2: didn't even know this was going on when it first happened. 1544 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:44,600 Speaker 5: I know this was going on. 1545 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 2: So I looked at the tape. I was like, oh, 1546 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 2: he down there, broke his neck. So I'm over here, 1547 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 2: you know, I'm. 1548 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:51,759 Speaker 3: In my moment. 1549 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 2: Hit the game with I'm over here like I'm in 1550 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 2: my moment. And then I'm like, you know, I don't 1551 01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 2: want to be jumped on like this, Like I'm going 1552 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 2: to do. 1553 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 3: Everything like. 1554 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 2: You did a game winn her matter. It's a square 1555 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,760 Speaker 2: guard you. I'm in my I'm in my moment right now. 1556 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, hold on, let me get the stage real quick. 1557 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 2: Let me and so what I look back that it's 1558 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 2: funny to the day I look on how he feels 1559 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 2: he damn there broke his neck like he jumped once, 1560 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 2: but not only jumped runs but then jumped again. 1561 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 3: That was that was a classic. 1562 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 2: I have that picture. The picture. The picture is Ray 1563 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,560 Speaker 2: Ray looking at him KG over here doing bowing to 1564 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 2: the crowd. It's a crazy picture when you're looking at 1565 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 2: they I'm doing this and they falling Ray looking at 1566 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,679 Speaker 2: him crazy KG a half. 1567 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 5: Core bow that like. 1568 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,639 Speaker 2: This is like my favorite picture ever. Oh man, that's 1569 01:13:58,680 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 2: my favorite. 1570 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 5: So you know, we appreciate you coming on. We always 1571 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,640 Speaker 5: from shower. We got a little you know, a little exclusive. 1572 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,440 Speaker 3: Okay, the black box. 1573 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 4: As Probably the best thing you're gonna enjoy is the 1574 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 4: love boom good. 1575 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 5: He's just the very special bs O people. 1576 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,640 Speaker 2: Okay with the logo, Damn, you know that's what's up. 1577 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:20,400 Speaker 3: That's what something. 1578 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 2: Man has its privileges and I got that my dogs. 1579 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 3: Man. 1580 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah good chatting out with your man. It's all loved always, 1581 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,520 Speaker 2: you know how we always. 1582 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 5: That's the truth. 1583 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 2: Everybody bros all day long. 1584 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:33,759 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1585 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 5: You know, fraternity all day. The Players Tribute dot Com