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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, SAT. And now your hosts Isaiah

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Speaker 1: stand back, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: It's a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presenting Bastos,

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Speaker 1: the official chap and the official tip of the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys here from the Star in Frisco. As the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: or six and one, we're taking your fame calls? What's

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Speaker 1: the pulse of Cowboys Nation? Here in the midweek edition.

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Speaker 1: But first, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back,

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam back in the back, Chris, welcome back. I

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Speaker 1: know yesterday was a it was an adventure, to say

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Speaker 1: the least, getting back from Minnesota. But I'm glad you're backing. Well,

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Speaker 1: how was that, Chris? It was amazing, not nice to

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Speaker 1: get the trip back to take about Let's see, I

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Speaker 1: got back so an entire day. It took out the

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Speaker 1: entire day. But I mean you were there, you were

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Speaker 1: on the sideline, you were shooting one of the I

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Speaker 1: guess more memorable Cowboys wins of the season and of

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Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy era. But we're gonna continue breaking that down.

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Speaker 1: First off, though, everybody doing okay. Before we get in

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Speaker 1: the news and notes, everybody goods well. Isaiah's looking fresh

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Speaker 1: over here with the nice crisp shirt and just just

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Speaker 1: trying to put on a colored shirt. Let's trying to

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Speaker 1: look business. Cat looks fantastic. I like yours as well.

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Speaker 1: Cool as a cough drop. M let's get it. That's new.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Actually one of my wearing pajamas over here. No,

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Speaker 1: I think you look great. I like your sweater. Thanks, Kyle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you noticed for the first beginning of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta have two phones. You gotta have

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Speaker 1: one phone in one hand, and you know, I'll just say, listen,

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Speaker 1: you are on your way. Dog. I was tweeting off

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Speaker 1: of Jerry's stuff because he you know, he covered a

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Speaker 1: lot of ground here on the fanom minute ago. Well,

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Speaker 1: how about let's go through it. What are the news?

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? Wherever you want to start?

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Speaker 1: Sounds like they're more confident Dak Prescott will play this

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Speaker 1: Sunday that being said, let's take the week and see

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Speaker 1: how it goes. Um. I think they they were. They

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Speaker 1: sounded awfully confident as we talked about early in the

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Speaker 1: week and as the week went on, and he just

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Speaker 1: kind of did individual and listening to the team athletic

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Speaker 1: trainers and the medical staff and how Dak's responding, I

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Speaker 1: think they obviously they decided it was best for him

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Speaker 1: to sit out Sunday night. It sounds like, according to

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, they're gonna have probably a lighter practice Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: coming off of the night game the road trip Thursday.

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Speaker 1: If he does full go practice like Mike kind of

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Speaker 1: expects him to do, that's a great sign for Sunday

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Speaker 1: compared to last week when he was off to the

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Speaker 1: side and doing individual for the most part. That's a

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Speaker 1: good place to start overall, Would you guys expect the

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Speaker 1: same thing? Would you guys expect Dak Prescott to be

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Speaker 1: back this week based off of what you've heard and

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Speaker 1: what kind of the Jones family and Mike McCarthy have

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Speaker 1: led out there. You know, I feel more confident about

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Speaker 1: our backup quarterback than I did probably you know, three

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Speaker 1: months ago, sent two. You know, I've always said the

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Speaker 1: mystery meat thing. You know, he gave me the bubbles.

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Speaker 1: But now, you know, going out and winning against the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: if we're going to do the same thing versus the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: I think it should all give us confidence that this

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Speaker 1: defense can handle the Broncos. And obviously calf strains around here.

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Speaker 1: Guys have been taken out for two months behind that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. Nick Keatman got one in flag football

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Speaker 1: and he still has a calf strain. That was like

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Speaker 1: Oh it was more than a year and a half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not Dak Prescott. But yeah, but I like how

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Speaker 1: and that calf I'm sure that has never been the

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Speaker 1: correlation has never been put together before. But you did that.

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Speaker 1: That's why you used so good. Um. But you know,

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Speaker 1: So I just wonder the severity of it, and we'll

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Speaker 1: it's different from Gallup's thing. It's not. It is not

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Speaker 1: as severe. Um, and it was. It was a close decision.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if they really were taking

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Speaker 1: So obviously, with standing with ever news is going to

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Speaker 1: come from your Twitter account, Athough, hopefully good news. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at least with that one, it was good news. But

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Speaker 1: there was some bad news for the Cowboys yesterday broke

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Speaker 1: could really hear it. Did you guys listen to McCarthy

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Speaker 1: hear just the discomfort from McCarthy because he loved the

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Speaker 1: This weekend was not a good weekend in the NFL

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Speaker 1: for injuries. No, all over the place. Really, John Fossil too,

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Speaker 1: we put a player out there. I mean, he didn't

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's that's really tough. And their linebacker

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Speaker 1: he didn't do much of anything in training Canada. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think so he's he's been on the sideline for

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Speaker 1: quite some time, and I guess Luke Gifford would probably

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing him back in twenty twenty two. But Rob,

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Speaker 1: you know, play doctor here. But my experience, I've never

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you would have to miss some weeks for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brian from Iowa back on the show. Brian, First off,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling again. You're on Talking Cowboys. Hey, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys and um and thank you for everything you

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Speaker 1: guys do. Thanks um My one question Champ two, but

458
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Speaker 1: one of the uh, I can't remember who during training camp?

459
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Speaker 1: Should just defense needs to um work it self out

460
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: through the first half of this season. And my thing

461
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Speaker 1: is the way that Cowboy played Sunday night. Do you

462
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: think they've find their peak of where they want to

463
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: be on that defense because they're doing exactly what their

464
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: main goal is just to stop the main I mean

465
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Speaker 1: the main focus of the offense of not able to

466
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Speaker 1: do what what what it wants to do. And then, um,

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Speaker 1: which player from training camp that you guys said that

468
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Speaker 1: that you would love to see improvement or or or

469
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Speaker 1: expected more of it. Which one as you've seen that

470
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Speaker 1: had improved of your expectations or disappoint your your expectations.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, goodbye? All right, great questions, Brian, Thanks for

472
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Speaker 1: calling as always, and we'll start with you, Hackman, because

473
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Speaker 1: I believe you were one of the ones talking about

474
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Speaker 1: that defense and in that sort of way of where

475
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Speaker 1: you needed them to be. Are they to that point? Yet?

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Speaker 1: You know when it when it came down to where

477
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Speaker 1: they were in training camp, I was still thinking about

478
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty defense and how historically bad they were,

479
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Speaker 1: so I mean, my expectations were very low. I was thinking,

480
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Speaker 1: especially with the way that the season started, that we

481
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: needed to get some victories under our belt. We knew

482
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Speaker 1: we had the quarterbacks on the line that we were

483
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Speaker 1: going to play. And I think he used the right

484
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Speaker 1: word peaking. I think I find myself in a situation

485
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: after seven games that they as a defense, they're peaking offensively.

486
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: They started the year peaking. And I've heard this term

487
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: over and in those football circles about the Cowboys possibly

488
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: peaking too soon. And I don't know if there's a

489
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Speaker 1: sex thing. And that's why I wanted to ask you that,

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Speaker 1: as far as that is concerned, is there's such a

491
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Speaker 1: thing as a team peeking too soon defensively are offensively?

492
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Speaker 1: I mean there is there is a thing in this regard.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it applies simply because of the fact

494
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Speaker 1: that we haven't had our entire defense together yet. These

495
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: guys have not been together yet. We're still missing some

496
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Speaker 1: very key pieces to our defense, so we haven't cerarily peaked.

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Speaker 1: We can't peak because we don't have all of our

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Speaker 1: all of our tools. But yes, there are teams that

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Speaker 1: have have shown too much too early, and because this

500
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Speaker 1: league is so cerebral in terms of the coordinators in

501
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: this in this league, they see if they if you

502
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Speaker 1: show your hand, then they can call They can call

503
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Speaker 1: your bluff because now they know how to combat what

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Speaker 1: you're doing. And that's why it's a challenge for a

505
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Speaker 1: defense in front of all these coordinators in the league

506
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Speaker 1: to only show bits and pieces every week right and

507
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Speaker 1: make these tweaks that are that are just good enough

508
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Speaker 1: tweaks that it throws other teams to chest. It's a

509
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Speaker 1: chess match because you can't just say, Okay, this is

510
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Speaker 1: our offense and we're gonna run it every week, and

511
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Speaker 1: Cats is gonna be like, all right, we got you

512
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Speaker 1: right when they come out in this personnel, when you

513
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Speaker 1: see this this guy come in like, we know what

514
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Speaker 1: you're doing. So there's always gonna be tweaked in peaks

515
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Speaker 1: and valleys also throughout there throughout the games. But you know,

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Speaker 1: to that point we have we haven't peaked. We're not

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Speaker 1: We're not anywhere close to it. And that's why I

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Speaker 1: think Cowboys Nations should be excited offensively and defensively. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree on both ends. Yeah, as Ayah said it,

520
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Speaker 1: I mean personnel wise, Tank Lawrences back yet, Nevill Galimore's

521
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: not back yet. They got guys coming. Kelvin Joseph is back,

522
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Speaker 1: but he played two snaps and he's playing special teams

523
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Speaker 1: and maybe he can work his way into the defensive

524
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: rotation at some point. They're not They're not perfect by

525
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Speaker 1: any means, and that's not a knock on them. I

526
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: think dan Quinn would say that, you know, they're still

527
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Speaker 1: giving up some plays deep in the passing game. They

528
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Speaker 1: did a much better job after the first really the

529
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Speaker 1: first drive or two of eliminating that. So that's really

530
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Speaker 1: encouraging going forward. So they're not a finished product by

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Speaker 1: any means. I think the most exciting part about the

532
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Speaker 1: win over Minnesota to me is that they did it

533
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Speaker 1: in a different way the defense going into the year,

534
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Speaker 1: much like how Heckma was saying that twenty twenty expectation

535
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Speaker 1: or the expectation rolling over from twenty twenty was not

536
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Speaker 1: very high for the defense. What were we saying all

537
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Speaker 1: off season long, If you can get that defense to

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Speaker 1: the middle of the road, your offense is gonna be okay,

539
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: your offense is going to be a top five offense

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Speaker 1: if you really want it to be. Well, they're not

541
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Speaker 1: just the top fifteen defense. I mean they're forcing takeaways,

542
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: they're doing things here and there, they're putting pressure on quarterbacks,

543
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you don't get takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to have that same success? Well, the

545
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: answer on Sunday was yes, And that's what's exciting because

546
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: it wasn't the calling card of what this defense was.

547
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Speaker 1: Through the first six games of the year, you didn't

548
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Speaker 1: get a takeaway, yet you still stifled a really solid offense,

549
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Speaker 1: and Minnesota's gonna win a lot of games with their offense.

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Speaker 1: It just didn't happen this week, and I think that's

551
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Speaker 1: what was the most exciting part about that whole deal. So,

552
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they're exceeding expectations. But to his second question

553
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: about players coming out of training camp and and also

554
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, exceeding those expectations, are are living underneath them.

555
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: Layton vander Esch coming in knowing that this was going

556
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Speaker 1: to be a contract year, I was I'm definitely waiting

557
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: for the wolf hunter. And he's had those moments where

558
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: it's just like, yes, laden his back, you know, I

559
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: think he had a goal line stand, tackle things like

560
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: that that he's doing. Then there are other times where

561
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: you just ask yourself, like, man, what's going on with Layton?

562
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: Out of position? You know, getting held up Bob Blocks,

563
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Speaker 1: getting you know, caught up in the wash, things like that.

564
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Speaker 1: So right now, I think he's been inconsistent to start

565
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: the season, but he's still a guy that I'm waiting

566
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Speaker 1: to m to be better and take the reins as

567
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: the leader that we know he can be. I was

568
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: hoping to see more of Nashan, right he had an

569
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Speaker 1: amazing camp. Obviously, OTA's um started out with OTAs and

570
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: went to camp, and I understanding that he's he's a

571
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Speaker 1: young guy. I know that you're not actually gonna throw

572
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Speaker 1: a young guy to the Wolves, but I was expecting

573
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Speaker 1: to see more of him. Um. I know he's getting

574
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Speaker 1: his special team's reps, but at that cornerback position, there's

575
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: no there's no replacement for just being out there on

576
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Speaker 1: the experiences. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to seeing more

577
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Speaker 1: of him. So I can't say that he's underperformed. He

578
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: just hasn't had the opportunities. Yeah, when's the last time

579
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: we've said that name on this show? Been a minute,

580
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: Been a while. Same thing with guys like Israel b Kwamu.

581
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I think it could be thrown into that mix as well.

582
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: And then Kelvin Joseph just hasn't been healthy, but he's

583
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Speaker 1: hopefully going to get in the rotation a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna mention Kelvin just because when camp started

585
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: he thought maybe by midseason he could be pushing for time,

586
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: like not maybe to start, you know, And that's that's

587
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: just that timeline's dropped back. Obviously, I'll just slip around.

588
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: And I know we've talked about Jayron Curse, but my goodness,

589
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: like he played every snap again on Sunday. Wow. You know,

590
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: you go into training camp and sometimes they'll they signed

591
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: safeties for depth, and you know it's probably more of

592
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: a special teams type move. Well, he's I think he's

593
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: still leading the team and special teams, but he's also

594
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: right up there and tackles, and I that just I

595
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: think they're surprised that he's been as good as he

596
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: has been. They thought he could contribute on defense, but

597
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: maybe not quite this. He is fit that dan Quinn

598
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: mold like a glove. I mean, he has been fantastic done.

599
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: My guy would be Anthony Brown. I think Anthony Brown

600
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: has exceeded expectations, even as after an early part of

601
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: the season where he didn't necessarily look like he was great.

602
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean that Tampa Bay game and he was not

603
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: great at all, and then I think from there on

604
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: he's had better games as it's gone along, and I

605
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: think this was his best game of the season by far.

606
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Speaker 1: So I think he's one of those guys that I

607
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: think has certainly, I guess, gone above and beyond. All Right,

608
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Speaker 1: let's hear from Mike from New York, a regular caller

609
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: here on the show. Mike, how's it going, You're back

610
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Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. How's it going, guys? Yeah, obviously you

611
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: guys knowing all the time. I have two questions if

612
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: we if we get our defensive line, I'm hoping we

613
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: get Lawrence and Gilmore back. You think they'll be back

614
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Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving game or actor? What do you guys think

615
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: rob Thanksgiving game or after um Man. That's a nice

616
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: little over under right there, because Jerry was asked about

617
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Speaker 1: he said, I don't know if it's going to be

618
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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, but we'll see. I think

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Speaker 1: he's getting closer. I think sometime this month, I could

620
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: see them starting the practice window for him. But I

621
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Speaker 1: don't have a great feel and win exactly he's going

622
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: to be back. I think I think that later in

623
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Speaker 1: November is a nice little spot there. Yeah, yeah, thanks Mike.

624
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: And that's one thing Mike McCarthy was asked about yesterday,

625
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Speaker 1: and I think it got everybody pretty excited because he

626
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: said that if it's not this week, next week, and

627
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh my gosh, like here here's DeMarcus Lawrence,

628
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Speaker 1: He's back, and it's like wait wait wait, wait wait

629
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: wait wait. That was a broken foot ye had. He

630
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: had surgery on a broken foot. Let's let's not rush

631
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: the guy back one and two. I mean, if you

632
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: were to be activated in two weeks, that would be

633
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: what eight and a half weeks removed from the injury. Yeah,

634
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think six to eight was kind of

635
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: a reasonable timetable, but I thought it was more of

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Speaker 1: optimistic side, six to eight, you know, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's getting closer as we move into November. I think, Thanksgivings,

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Speaker 1: not a bad little timeline more or less. You know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see and and for me, you know, Mike Neville

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Speaker 1: Gallimore is the person I know that Tank is coming back,

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Speaker 1: and for the future, I want Tank to be healed

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Speaker 1: up and not rush him back. But Neville Gallimore or

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Speaker 1: as a player that I'm looking to see how he

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Speaker 1: impacts this defensive line as well. With everything that we have,

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Speaker 1: We've been bringing Hamilton and other guys up from the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. But you know, once you have Neville Gallimore

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Speaker 1: up there, that that kind of solves that whole problem

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Speaker 1: and getting him back in the rotation with this defensive line,

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Speaker 1: that's man. These guys are hunting. They are putting pressure

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Speaker 1: where it needs to be, and I think he'd be

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Speaker 1: the key piece of that, especially when we're talking about

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Speaker 1: trade dead lines and things like you got guys that

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Speaker 1: are coming from ir pup. That could be like a

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Speaker 1: trade making a big trade. I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: see Tristan Hill back in a Cowboys uniform. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we do. That's the that's like one of

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Speaker 1: the probably the the highest and highly anticipated player that

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to see him back. I want to

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Speaker 1: see hellback. I mean, obviously I want to d Law back,

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Speaker 1: but I want I want hellback even more than Gallimore.

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Speaker 1: Because you're intrigued. I like, no, I'm not just intrigued.

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Speaker 1: I like his motor and I think what he does

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Speaker 1: If fits perfect. You need a guy to get up field.

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Speaker 1: He freaking, he says him. He motors. Now it's up

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Speaker 1: the field. You know. I'll go with that. He gets

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Speaker 1: up the field, and I like that energy. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: just just imagine you have Gregory with his energy, you

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Speaker 1: have Tristian Hill, and then you can throw and throw

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Speaker 1: I just want to see it, man, I just want

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Speaker 1: to see And if it doesn't work out then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, do what you gotta do. But I want

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Speaker 1: off probably to get back to this position. Yeah. That

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Speaker 1: that rotation would be fantastic to watch, man. I mean already,

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Speaker 1: I sent out a tweet the other day Saga Zola

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Speaker 1: And we were saying the same thing earlier in the

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Speaker 1: that was before Nevil Gallimore even took off. That's a

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Speaker 1: great point, Kyle, because when you talk about player with

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Speaker 1: because he is continuously coming as well in that rotation.

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Speaker 1: It's a full room. It's a full room, man. I mean.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, Kyle, I mean, if he I

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Speaker 1: he had played up to this trade deadline, if he

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Speaker 1: had played prior to this trade deadline, I think he

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Speaker 1: might have been one of the guys that think that

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that he hasn't played yet, there's

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Speaker 1: I've been invested into this team for almost thirty years now.

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Speaker 1: And my question is, Okay, so I watched all the shows,

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Speaker 1: my question is, and I'm not sure if you've got

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Speaker 1: to discuss this, but why does it seem as just

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Speaker 1: all the teams that we may potentially see in the

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Speaker 1: a little to nothing, I mean six round picks through

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Speaker 1: third round picks. I mean, it just seems as if

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Speaker 1: the type of players that are getting traded around us

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Speaker 1: are going to come back to bite us into behind

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Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, the big dance. So

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to know, you know, all we just

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Speaker 1: not doing enough or or as Steven says, are we

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Speaker 1: comfortable with the guys that we got. It just seems

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Speaker 1: a lot like Jason Garrett's Regene to move. Well, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for the call, Kareem. And that's a

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Speaker 1: fantastic question because I think I think my thought process

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Speaker 1: on that has switched the last two days, because originally

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Speaker 1: we addressed this on the show, and I think three

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Speaker 1: fourths of us said that we wanted to stay put

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Speaker 1: rather than make a trade because of the guys that

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Speaker 1: are coming back. But I also said, if the right

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Speaker 1: deal presents itself, then go for it. If the right

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Speaker 1: deal is there, go for it. And right now a

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Speaker 1: von Miller, but at the same time, it's von Miller.

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Speaker 1: And then you just saw Melvin Ingraham go the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: for a sixth round pick. That's nothing. Where are those

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Speaker 1: deals at? Where can we get some of those? They

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Speaker 1: don't fall in your lap. If you want something, you

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Speaker 1: gotta go get it right. And I don't think that

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Speaker 1: a need and they wouldn't addressed it. That was the

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Speaker 1: first time I said, dog on it, Dallas, a great job.

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Speaker 1: You went and you said, you threw it on the table.

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Speaker 1: You said, we need this position. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: the guy that we want and made it happen. We

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Speaker 1: need that again. To his point, we need that again.

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Speaker 1: We need a shut down corner to put across from

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Speaker 1: from from Diggs. We need it. I can't say names

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Speaker 1: on the show, but we need it. We need and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that will happen. I don't think

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately I want to say that guys have to leave,

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Speaker 1: that he's talking about are that they're recognizing that it's

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anything if you don't walk away with

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Speaker 1: NFC championship ring. Nobody cares about that. Right. You want

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys who are a lot better than

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Speaker 1: And maybe it's because of their teams weren't good, or

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Speaker 1: to not go out there and put a trigger on

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Speaker 1: We have playmakers on the offensive line, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola say, those bridge players, those filler players, And

847
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Speaker 1: that's how you build your roster. That's the way I've

848
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: seen NFL teams. When you talk about the Patriots, they

849
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: build it through the draft and also bringing in those

850
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Speaker 1: players and not overreaching for free agents. There are a

851
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: lot of I want everybody, you know, I want if

852
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: they can make my team better, I want them all.

853
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: But just dealing in the reality of it, I think

854
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: that especially with your cap being as it is right now,

855
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: with standing next year, and I know we're like joking

856
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: about where the cap is. Maybe it's not, but I'm

857
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: just saying tough decisions to make some tough go ahead.

858
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: I hear you, and I get it. Be the Rams

859
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: in this in this in this instance, okay, the Rams

860
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Speaker 1: don't give a dog on about next year or the

861
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: year down the role they need it now? Why because

862
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: you're only guaranteed today, right, You're guaranteed this year. This

863
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: is what you're guaranteed. What happens in the future. You

864
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: don't have any control over that. Right, you can prepare, right,

865
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: you can have great planning and all that kind of

866
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: jazz estate planning, whatever you want to call it. You

867
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: were in control of what you got going on right now.

868
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: They recognized they went out and did two major trads

869
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: this year. Major trads, not just okay, these are guys

870
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Speaker 1: that are failure spot fillers. They went out and they said,

871
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: who are we going to be? What do we need

872
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: to do? We need to dog our quarterback to get

873
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: we have the weapons. Let's go get a quarterback. Let's

874
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: get a quarterback who can throw the ball down the field,

875
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: because we got guys that could do it. Guess what

876
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: he's up there in the MVP candidate position right now, right,

877
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: touchdowns for a team or for a quarterback in his

878
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: first year with the team in history. They said, Okay,

879
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: we had one of the best d linemen to ever

880
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: play the game, somebody who has ninety plus sacks in

881
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Who else could we add as we get

882
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: ready to face get ready for this playoff run that

883
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: will make a difference on the edge, freaking von Miller.

884
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: Let's go get them right? They did that. As we

885
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: look at our roster, you guys absolutely correct. Quarterback booming,

886
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: got it, Offensive lineman boom, got it right, tight ends

887
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: being got it, running back boom, receivers, all that stuff. Offense. Okay, good,

888
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: all right, Now let's go to defense. Defensive line Boom money,

889
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: a linebacker, we felt really good. Cox is gone. That sucks, okay,

890
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: but we still feel pretty good about the linebacker position.

891
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: Safety's bawling. Cornerback we got one that's a dog. We

892
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: got a couple other guys I can fill in. What

893
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: are we going to face as we get into the playoffs? Weapons?

894
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: Tons of them, tons of them. So if there's one

895
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: spot that you know that you need to secure, why

896
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: would you leave that up for question? Why would you

897
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: leave that up for a Hey, a brown, We appreciate you,

898
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: j LOUI appreciate you. All the other guys we appreciate you,

899
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: but you're not a shutdown guy. If we had to,

900
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: if I'm playing against the Dallas Cowboys, I'll say that's

901
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: their weak spot. If you can shure it up and

902
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: not have a glaring weak spot, why wouldn't you. I mean,

903
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: and we don't know that they're not looking at them.

904
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: We don't. I mean, we don't know that. Um, Jerry

905
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: did say you're in a better position of power basically

906
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: if you're kind of letting the phone ring towards you

907
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: and not that being said, you gotta Yeah, if you

908
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: really want something, you gotta, you know, look at it.

909
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what they're doing. I will say,

910
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: generally speaking, when you pay Dak Prescott as much as

911
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: you pay him, you've got to have I think you

912
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: have to have that draft capital. Those first second round

913
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: third picks hit on those four or five years. It's

914
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: not killing your cap. Yeah, you've got to be able

915
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: to do that. And the rams with Gold. I mean, look,

916
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Speaker 1: I'm with you guys. If you can find opportunities to

917
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: and it's the right deal, do it. I mean, I'm

918
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: not saying you should just sit pat necessarily. But you know,

919
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: with with with Stafford, they missed, they missed on their

920
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: first round pick in their mind, first overall pick with golf,

921
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: and they had to fix that and they gave up

922
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: a lot of what three first round picks to do that.

923
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: You start doing that, you're not having Michael Parsons on

924
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: your team or Trayvon Diggs or Ceedee Lamb or these

925
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: guys that are now going to be the face of

926
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: your team for the next five years. It's a delicate

927
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: line to walk. And I'm not they have a great

928
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: team and they're gonna probably be in the mix here

929
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: in January. But it's a different way of doing business,

930
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I would not take the draft. Most

931
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: teams trade away draft picks. I wouldn't. I think that

932
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: we because we're really successful right now. We have a

933
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: plethora guys at certain positions. They're all playing well. If

934
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Speaker 1: you ever had player equity, not draft equity, but player equity,

935
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: we have that right now. Yeah, you do in terms

936
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Speaker 1: of depth on the roster, yes, in terms of being

937
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: able to trade multiple guys away pot that you're maybe

938
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: a guy in a draft pick right that you feel

939
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: to get lower draft pick, that you're not killing yourself

940
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: for your future, right I think this is the best

941
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: position that you can possibly be in right now. And

942
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: I hear you. And when when you see what the

943
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Speaker 1: Chiefs did, what you just said was being reported today

944
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Speaker 1: with with Ingram, that's you know, that's a that's a

945
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: get better quickly move. You know, that's especially with linebacker

946
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: and Thrill Cox. I would have made that move. But

947
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't I mean, obviously we don't know.

948
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Speaker 1: I don't think Pittsburgh called him, was like, hey, give

949
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Speaker 1: us a six round er. We'll give you him. I'm

950
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: pretty sure they were like, hey, uh yeah, so him.

951
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: We know y'all got my house, some stuff going on.

952
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: How about him? What what you need? Like they went

953
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: they I'm pretty sure they went out and said that's

954
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Speaker 1: who we want. If I think if Dallas is going

955
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: to get better, I hear him, I hear mister Jones saying, Okay,

956
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: we're in a good position, guys call us. Usually the

957
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: guy that you want to go get isn't just gonna

958
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: fall in your lap. But when it comes down to Ingram,

959
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 1: he's a guy that isn't playing for the stealers. Because

960
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: the guy that they drafted is out playing him. And

961
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Speaker 1: so that's what you want to have happen. If you

962
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: call a guy and say, hey, man, does he still

963
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: have any anything in the tank, and they go, oh, yeah,

964
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Speaker 1: he still does. Of course they're gonna say that so

965
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Speaker 1: they can get the draft. But I just feel like,

966
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: right now, the Rams are looking around. I don't want

967
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: to be arrogant enough. They're looking at how good we are,

968
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: and they know they need to get a guy. But

969
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this. They're looking around and they

970
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: recognize that they need to get better on defense. The

971
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: defensive already has a guy that is a destroyer. But

972
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: but but they're but they're preparing for what's to come.

973
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: They're preparing for Dallas, they're preparing for Tampa, they're preparing

974
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Speaker 1: for Arizona, right and all the all these teams that

975
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: they know that the Green Bay, they know what they're

976
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to face. These guys are gonna line up

977
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: two to at least two great receivers, if not three,

978
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: great receivers every time we step on the field. So

979
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: we need guys to hurry and we get to this quarterback.

980
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: We have two really good Corners, right, we got Now

981
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: we have a pass rap we line up right now

982
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: versus Rounds? Who you got all? Are you gonna do that?

983
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: Do it in January? Yes? I think we will too. Yeah.

984
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: I've got a feeling too, I really do. And I

985
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: mean to your credit. If you want to talk about weapons,

986
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: just the teams that we named, If you want to

987
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: look at the list of the top wide receivers in

988
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, Davante Adams, Dejandre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Marrow, Cooper,

989
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: and then the Rams themselves have Cooper Cup and Robert Woods.

990
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: So it's everyone has weapons, no doubt about it. You

991
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: got to find a way to do it. So I

992
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe that is the move, but Rob's putting

993
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: up great points here as well. You don't want to

994
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: sacrifice your future. That's the line you have to walk over, Liver,

995
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: that's the line. Right move is available, I say, just

996
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: crossed the lines. All right, guys. Tomorrow we're previewing Bronco's

997
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: offense and Cowboys defense. What does Denver have in store

998
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Speaker 1: for Chris Beam in the back? Heck My Harris and

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Speaker 1: isaiahs dam back, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman, thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. We'll see you tomorrow on Talking Cowboys. This

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