1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome in out Number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm still in DC, but got up super early in 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the morning to return to Miami. That is where he 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: is right now. We are reacting to a dynamic first 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: twenty four hours of the Trump presidency as he continues 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: to implement so many of the different promises he has 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: made during the course of the campaign, among them freeing 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: essentially all of the January sixth prisoners from all of 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: their criminal related issues, treating them basically the same as 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: everybody who was involved in the BLM riots for much 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. You got a crazy story that they 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: are trying to I would say, manufacture out of completely 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: nothing in accusing Elon Musk of making a Hitler salute. 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: They really can't leave the Hitler angle. Even though Trump 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: won record number of Jewish voters, and if Israel were 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: able to vote, Trump would have won on the same 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: kind of manner as he won Wyoming or West Virginia. 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: That is, Trump is wildly popular all throughout Israel, and 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: Trump is instrumental in getting all of the hostages back, 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: including bringing some of the hostage families on stage with 21 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: him yesterday at the Capitol One Arena during his post 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: inauguration rally. All of that underway, But Buck, you hit 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: on something that I think is really significant, and that 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: is the culture, the business, the sports world suddenly getting 25 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: in line behind Trump. And I was thinking about this 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: last night, Buck, as I watched at the inaugural ball 27 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: the Village people come out to perform YMCA and Trump 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: dancing along with it at the ball. But you combine 29 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: that with all of the different musicians, all of the 30 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: different athletes, all of the different CEOs and business executives, 31 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: and we have witnessed a transformative cultural movement the likes 32 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: of which we've never seen before. In twenty seventeen, it 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: was we've got to isolate Trump, put on our vagina 34 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: hats and claim that he isn't a legitimate president. And 35 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: now there's virtually no resistance, and in fact, business, culture, 36 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: and sports are lining up behind Trump the likes of 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: which we've never seen before. 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: It's remarkable, Clay, and it's something that I think also 39 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: just goes to what a complete victory it is for 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Donald Trump right now. And really the MAGA movement. I mean, 41 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: it's Trump as the leader of it, but there's been 42 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: so much that Trump supporters have had to put up with. 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about the severity and the insanity 44 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: of the treatment that the j six prisoners received, But 45 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: I just mean every day Trump supporters who have had 46 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: companies trying to push trans stuff on their kids and 47 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: have been told, you know that they better mask up. 48 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: But if they're going to come inside the business and 49 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: have been told that their business is not even welcome 50 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: in some places, right, I mean, they've gone after firearms manufacturers, 51 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: They've been debanking people. I mean, all of this stuff, 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: all these underhanded, dirty tricks that Democrats have been pulling 53 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: four years. Oh, there's a shift now, there's a change 54 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: in not just the momentum, but in the power structure 55 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: in this country. And everybody feels it. And the bad 56 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: people out there, those who have used their power for censorship, 57 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: for deplatforming, for undermining, for attacking small businesses because they 58 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: didn't like their politics, they know that the old days 59 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: of getting away with the worst of that, they're at 60 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: least for right now on hold. So I think that's 61 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: very powerful. 62 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: No doubt. 63 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: And you and I let me take people into the 64 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: inaugural ball situation. I mean, it was there's thousands and 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: thousands of people, lots of a celebratory mood there. But 66 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: you and I ended up in an area called the 67 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Draft Kings and FanDuel Lounge, And I want to kind 68 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: of take people into the cultural shift that I have 69 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: witnessed in my own experience and why it was so 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: staggering to me last night. So they had the Ohio 71 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: State Notre Dame game on there, congratulations to Ohio State 72 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: winning the national championship. But we were standing there. There's seats, tables, 73 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: everything else. And I told you this, Buck, but I 74 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: think it's important for the audience to hear it too. 75 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: FanDuel we were the outmeaning OutKick the site that I ran. 76 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: We were one of their biggest affiliates, if not their 77 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: biggest affiliate. We made them This is one hundred percent true. 78 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: We made them millions of dollars on so many different days, 79 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars in twenty twenty with sports 80 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: gambling going legal all over the country. In fact, my 81 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: company personally, just to kind of give you an idea, 82 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: OutKick on Super Bowl twenty twenty one, we made two 83 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: million dollars. FanDuel stroked us a check just on that 84 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: day for two million dollars. We made them tens of 85 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Here's what happened. They were really upset 86 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: because they had a woke marketing department. 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: I sold out Kick to Fox. 88 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: FanDuel and DraftKings both said Klay Travis is too much 89 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: of a Trump supporter. In the wake of jan six, 90 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and the wake of me endorsing him 91 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: and the comments that I was making publicly, they said, 92 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: we can't work with him anymore. FanDuel and DraftKings sports 93 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: gambling companies. This is one reason, by the way, we're 94 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: partner with price Picks. To their credit, FanDuel and DraftKings said, also, 95 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: Clay's two outspoken when he says that men pretending to 96 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: be women shouldn't be playing in women's sports. We think 97 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: that's offensive. We're worried about our brand being connected with him. 98 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Just telling you all what happened behind the scenes. Suddenly 99 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Trump wins the twenty twenty four election popular vote. Buck, 100 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: they show up and have a sponsorship that is going 101 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: on inside of the Trump inauguration. They've got their own area. 102 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: FanDuel and DraftKings are trying to be like, Hey, we're 103 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: big Trump people now, and to me, this culture a 104 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: lot of it. I want you guys to remember who 105 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: actually had your back and don't allow these companies to 106 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: suddenly come running in. I'll give you another example, Buck, 107 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 1: This happened last night. I couldn't believe it happened. During 108 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: the Ohio State Notre Dame game. Suddenly ESPN, which has 109 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: been wildly anti Trump for years, decided they were going 110 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: to share a message. We've got some of the audio 111 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: for you of Trump addressing everybody watching that game last night. 112 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: I almost fell out of my chair, Buck, when I 113 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: saw that this happened. Play that cut. 114 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: Starting now, We're going to bring America back and make 115 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: it safer, richer, and prouder than ever before. We will 116 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: have a nation filled with compassion, strength, and exceptionalism. To 117 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: our power and might, we will stop wars and we 118 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: will lead the world to peace. We will be respected again, 119 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: and we will be admired again, admired like we haven't 120 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: been in many, many years. We'll put America first, and 121 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: by doing so, we're going to make America great again. 122 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: In less than three months ince the election, you have 123 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: already seen it happen and you can feel the excitement, 124 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: and you can see the confidence and spirit returning to 125 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: our nation. Together, we're going to lead our country to 126 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: glorious new heights. The Golden Age of America has just begun. 127 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: To all of the players and fans watching tonight, I 128 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: know it's been a long and difficult journey. It's been 129 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: a long season. But you have two tremendous teams, and 130 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: get to the game and go out and fight hard 131 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: and fight fear and let the better team win. 132 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Buck For anybody who's seeing the ESPN or FanDuel 133 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: or DraftKings, I'm talking about the culture of sports changing 134 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: overnight with Trump. It's extraordinary. I honestly can't believe some 135 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: of what I'm seeing, the degree to which they're just 136 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: all now like, hey we love Trump, Hey go Trump. 137 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's remarkable. 138 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: I think that there are a lot of people on 139 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: the corporate and cultural side of things who maybe they 140 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: didn't personally go along with this in terms of their beliefs, 141 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: they didn't really want to. Now, I can't give you 142 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: what the percentages are here, but I'm just saying I 143 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: think there are some who were worried about crossing the Democrats, yes, 144 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: and so it was more out of fear. By the way, 145 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: I know that this existed some some companies, and Clin 146 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: and I have talked about some of the companies where 147 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: we know people running them where this has been the case. 148 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: There have been there have been times where companies. 149 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: And uh and you know. 150 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: Media outlets whatever it may be, have made decisions because 151 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: they were afraid of crossing Democrats. And I think that 152 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: now what they see is they don't have to be 153 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: afraid anymore. They're they're not having to look over their 154 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: shoulder for Oh, I'm going to get some audit from 155 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: Biden's I R S because I have you know, somebody 156 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: in my company is pro Trump, where you know, this 157 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: is a shift that has effects that are downstream of 158 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: the election and will affect I think the next election, 159 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: because this is this goes beyond just one political cycle. 160 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: This is a change in the. 161 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: Cultural and and and commerce feeling of the country right now, 162 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: which is is a remarkable learn about when you think 163 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: about how we went from in twenty twenty the Amazon 164 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: shutting off, parlor Trump kicked off of social media company, 165 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: you know, all the social media companies saying basically you can't. 166 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: You can't question the election results. You can't say that 167 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: the vaccines don't stop the spread, which they didn't. By 168 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: the way, you can't say these things. And now we're 169 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: at a place where, hold on a second, free speech 170 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: may have come back, free enterprise may be respected as 171 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: something that does not have to be run by the 172 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: woke mob. First, I mean, this is all enormously important 173 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: and a massive change. And then, by the way, you 174 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: know what you're talking about, Clay, is not only can 175 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: people lose some of the fear of being targeted by democrats. 176 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: I think now there are democrats who are saying a 177 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: lot of them, a lot of them in the corporate world, 178 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: who were saying, I don't know Trump's maybe he's pretty 179 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: cool run guy, Maybe I don't want to be on 180 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: the wrong side of the Trumpster. 181 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: Well, I think what it also represents is we saw 182 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: buck here, face to face what the actual resistance looks like. 183 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of these CEOs now are 184 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: looking around and they're like, am I gonna let some. 185 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: Purple haired. 186 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: Crazy person who has no real job beating on a 187 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: drum walking around in a vagina hat dictate the direction 188 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: that my corporate policy goes to and remember all we've 189 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: ever argued is, hey. 190 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: Try to appeal to everybody. 191 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: Right, if you're a car company, I don't want only 192 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: to sell the Democrats. I don't only want to sell 193 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: to Republicans. If you're a restaurant or an airline, you 194 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: want to address the biggest possible market. And when I 195 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: saw a FanDuel of DraftKings last night we walked in, 196 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: I told you I I just couldn't believe it that 197 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: they could go from Clay Travis can't talk about the 198 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: fact that there's only two genders and that men shouldn't 199 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: be able to compet and women's sports because for branding purposes, 200 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: that makes him toxic, even though what is it, ninety 201 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: ten sports fans agree with me, and then they suddenly going, hey, 202 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: we're proud to be a presenting sponsor of the Donald 203 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: Trump inauguration. You know what Trump said when he came 204 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: out on the stage at the Ball Liberty Ball last night, Hey, 205 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: there's only two genders. 206 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: We got to get men out of women's sports. 207 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: So it's just like he's saying the same thing that 208 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: I said for years and that many of you rationally 209 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: have been saying, and these corporations now are going to 210 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: try to pretend they've always been in line with your 211 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: values all along. And look, I think it's better the 212 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: direction we're going, but it's head spinning for me to 213 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: see how people like you and me were treated for 214 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: what we said about COVID, or what we said about 215 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: men and women's sports, or what we said about voting 216 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. To now all of a sudden, Amazon 217 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: who tried to shut down the ability of Parlor to 218 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: even exist because they were upset about them being too 219 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: Trump supporting, to suddenly Jeff Bezos sitting at the inauguration, 220 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: to Mark Zuckerberg, who took away Trump's account, sitting front 221 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: row at the inauguration. 222 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: It's crazy Bezos's wife as zucker Bello. 223 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, boobs are back, Buck. That's why a 224 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: lot of people I saw at the at the at 225 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: the ball last night. First of all, a lot of 226 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: boobs at the ball, so I don't think Boob's ever left, 227 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: but a lot of dudes coming up saying, hey, Clay, 228 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: still love your I got a lot of fist pounds 229 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: at the at the event last night. So Lawn Sanchia 230 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: bet Jeff Bezos would give me a fifth pound. Now 231 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: he wanted to kick me off the internet. Now he's 232 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: got a little bit testosterone. 233 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: He likes boobs. Again. We come back, We will. We'll 234 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: have a little bit of fun with you. 235 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: We got Julie Kelly, who I think deserves a massive 236 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: amount of attention for all the work that she did, 237 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: joining us at the bottom of the hour to talk 238 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: about the January sixth pardons and what the impact is there. 239 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, Buck and I went out to 240 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: lunch with the guys who run rapid radios up here 241 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: in DC, and they said, you guys have been absolutely 242 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: responding in incredible numbers to try out these yourself. We 243 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: had rapid radios with us up here in DC so 244 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: that we could have a backup plan in the event 245 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: that cell phones go down. In fact, my cell phone 246 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: got overloaded last night at the inaugural ball as often happens, 247 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: as many of you probably have experienced, when too many 248 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: people try to get on the same cell phone network. 249 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: What happens when there's a catastrophe, as Buck found out 250 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: with his sister in law who was in the Asheville, 251 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: North Carolina area. Maybe you've been out in California and 252 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: you've been dealing with some of the struggles there. Heck, 253 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: the Gulf Coast America's the Gulf of America right now 254 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: getting slammed with snow. Maybe there are going to be 255 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: some cell phone issues associated with that. Do you have 256 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: a backup plan? That's what rapid Radios can do if 257 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: you're more interested in putting these work to work. Whether 258 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: it's let your kids not have a cell phone because 259 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: you're worried about what they might do on the Internet, 260 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: or you just want a backup plan in the event 261 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: that something happens that's catastrophic in nature. 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Help out these Michiganders. 273 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: Rapid Radios dot com is the website. 274 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: Saving America one thought at a time and Clay Travis 275 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 5: and Buck Sexton find them on the free iHeartRadio app 276 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcasts. 277 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: Welcome back into Clay and Bach. 278 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: Some meturing news on the personnel front of the Trump team, 279 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: the Trump world, the theik Ramaswami is stepping away from 280 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: Doze after having been involved in the early days of Doze. 281 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: There are a whole bunch of news reports out there 282 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: about why this may have occurred or what went on here. 283 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: But Vivek looks like he's going to be running for 284 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: governor of Ohio. But I will just note that it 285 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: did not his tenure at DOZE did not last into 286 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: the actual administration. It seems it was more in the 287 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: pre administration and in the creation phase. 288 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: I think one of the challenges they're going to have, 289 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: frankly with anybody who was involved in business, and I'll 290 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: say this about Elon Musk too, I think that they're 291 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: going to get super frustrated with how slow business moves, 292 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, how slow government moves compared to business that 293 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: they control, and look, Elon can address and see issues 294 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: that occur at Tesla or SpaceX or XAI or Twitter 295 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and he can fix them. And 296 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that if you're an executive, 297 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: really drives people crazy is they look at everything that's 298 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: going wrong in government and they say, Okay, we've got 299 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: to do X and Y, and then X and Y 300 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: have big special interest groups and they have unions and 301 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: they have protectorates, and it's just way harder to get 302 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: the government moving. The analogy people like to use buck 303 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: in sports sometimes, as they say, sometimes you're captaining a speedboat. 304 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: Like if you're a coach of a basketball team, it's 305 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: like a speedboat. You can change directions quickly. There aren't 306 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: that many people involved. When you got the football team. 307 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: You can't move that football team one hundred people, all 308 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: the apparatus, all the pads, everything else very easily. You 309 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: can't just hop in a van and take off. I 310 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: think they want to move fast and disrupt things, and 311 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: the Elon Musks of the world are going to be 312 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: frustrated by how hard it is to move fast and 313 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: disrupt things in government. So that's just a prediction going 314 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: forward that there's going to become some frustration and friction, 315 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: not because of the goals, but just because they aren't 316 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: as easy to obtain results as you might hope. Speaking 317 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: of results, hey, you just heard me say FanDuel DraftKings. 318 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: They didn't like the fact that I was saying there 319 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: were two genders. You know, doesn't have a problem with 320 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: that at all. Price picks one reason they're part of 321 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: this show and why we encourage you to support them. 322 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Forty different states. 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Julie, I hear you a little 342 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: under the weather. Thanks for powering through for us here. 343 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: We just felt like, given what's going on with these 344 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: pardons and commutations, the releases, you're the person we wanted 345 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 2: to talk to just first off, what have you been 346 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: hearing from the families and bring us into what it's 347 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: like as they're finding out in real time that Trump 348 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: has given them their lives back. 349 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 6: Well, Buck and I, regardless of how I feel in 350 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 6: number six so of course today would be the first 351 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 6: day in like you know, thirty years. But anyway, I 352 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 6: want to thank you, and I want to thank Clay 353 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 6: because you guys are instrumental in getting this message out. 354 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 6: The travesty of the J sixers, their plate, the abusive 355 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 6: prosecution of them and carsery. So this has been really 356 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 6: a team effort, and I wanted to think, I want 357 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 6: to thank both of you. Also, how did you guys 358 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 6: get such hot wives? I saw photos from the ball. 359 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: You know we do it weekend. I appreciate that. 360 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 6: So anyway, I wanted to thank both of you. And 361 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 6: it was just a historic day. I mean, this full 362 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 6: pardon that the President issued last night, getting my phone 363 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 6: blowing up with texts that people were already being released, 364 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 6: mothers who were crying that their sons are coming home. 365 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 6: So I just really have to commend and thank President 366 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 6: Trump because but this was not an easy decision to 367 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 6: make at all. This got a lot of pushback from 368 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 6: Republicans in Congress. You had US senators during Pambondi's confirmation 369 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 6: hearing Linday Graham and Tom Tillis coming flat out today 370 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 6: they opposed pardons for those who allegedly beat up cops, 371 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 6: and Tom Tillis even today saying denouncing these pardons and 372 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 6: saying he wants new federal laws for killing police officers. 373 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 6: No police officer was killed on January sixth, So this 374 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 6: is the sort of a political opposition that the President 375 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 6: had to deal with. But nonetheless, I know he was 376 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 6: personally committed to this, and he took a very bold, 377 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 6: courageous move yesterday. I think that there will be more 378 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: to come on this because he really wants all of 379 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 6: these people and their families made whole. After the Biden, 380 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 6: Marrick Garland, DOJ did everything they could to try to 381 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: destroy them. 382 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: And so last night were there people I mean I 383 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: was seeing some video on social media at the ball, 384 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: so there was a lot of things going on and 385 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: people were being released as of midnight. Is that how 386 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: how did it actually go down? 387 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: Correct? 388 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 6: So some of them started getting released last night. And 389 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 6: you know, keep in mind, as you probably know books Buck, 390 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 6: but your listeners, these people are in the hardest federal 391 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 6: prisons across the country Texas, Philadelphia, in New York City. 392 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 6: This is where we put really dangerous repeat criminals, not 393 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 6: someone who scuffle with the police officer during a political protest. 394 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 6: So yet some of u are being released, you know, 395 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 6: in the wee hours of the morning, and the families 396 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 6: were kind of scrambling to figure out how to go 397 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 6: get them, because of course there are hundreds, maybe thousands 398 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 6: of miles away. We do see today and I'm sure 399 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 6: you've seen this two book. The DC Gulag, of course, 400 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 6: waiting till the very last minute, delaying as long as 401 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 6: they possibly can defendants, including women, who are in that 402 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 6: hellhole waiting to get released. And I think some members 403 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 6: of Congress have already gone there to try to figure 404 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 6: out what's going on. But that is really the gulag, 405 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 6: the center of the torment of these J sixers. But nonetheless, 406 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 6: they will be free, they will be home, and I 407 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 6: think more to come to make them whole and hopefully 408 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 6: also hold accountable the monsters in the DJ and FBI 409 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 6: and federal courthouse who did this to these people. 410 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: Is there anyone who is supposed to be out among 411 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: J six prisoners who is not out? That was another 412 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: thing that I was seeing, but I wasn't sure. And 413 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: I know that you're following all this very closely. It 414 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: would seem to me the President says you're out, You're 415 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: out right. I mean, there's there shouldn't be any there 416 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: should be no question, there's no there's no This is 417 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: a streat, chain of command, presidential pardon issue, or commutation issue. 418 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: So is anyone still waiting to be released? Or is 419 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: everybody out who's supposed to be out. 420 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 6: My understanding is there are still some who are being 421 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 6: released who are waiting to be released, especially at the 422 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: DC Gulag. Now, the DC Gulag is sort of the 423 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: holding pen for defendants who are going on trial, so 424 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 6: they are transferred there from other federal prisons, they've been 425 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 6: detained under pre trial detention, or they're in prison they've 426 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 6: been convicted and taken into custody. That's kind of the 427 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 6: holding pen where they all stay before they have to 428 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 6: go to the courthouse a few blocks away for whatever proceeding. 429 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 6: So there's a mix of defendants in there that could 430 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 6: be the hold up because some are there who are convicted, 431 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 6: some are there who are on trial and have not 432 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 6: been convicted, some are there waiting to be sentenced. So 433 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 6: if they're blaming it on paperwork, doesn't matter. These people 434 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 6: should immediately have been released last night, deal with the 435 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 6: paperwork later. So if this continues throughout the day, and 436 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 6: I know there are actually people Jay Sixers who were 437 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 6: released from prison last night, say in Philadelphia, who went 438 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 6: right to the DC Gulags, and they're they're already helping 439 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 6: in any way that they can to get these JA 440 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 6: sixers out of gulags, So there might be some more 441 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 6: drama there this afternoon. We'll keep an eye on it. 442 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: And I also just think truly because it's easy for people, 443 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: you know, so much going on to forget about some 444 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: of what went on here. And yes, this is a 445 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: this is a happy moment, and it's an incredible move 446 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: by President Trump, and I you know, first and foremost, 447 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: this is just such a relief and such an incredible 448 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: decision by the new president to do this. But I 449 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: think it's important to also have that perspective of people 450 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: were held in What was the longest that you remember 451 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: somebody being held in solitary confinement as a JAY six 452 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: prisoner before trial? 453 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: What was it? Was it over a year? Was it 454 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: fourteen months? I mean? 455 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: And what was some of the treatment that some of 456 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: the non violent J six ers were receiving in that 457 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: DC gulag. 458 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 6: So the members of the Proud Boys who went to 459 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 6: trial in December of twenty twenty two, many of them 460 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 6: had been in custody since January or February of twenty 461 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 6: twenty one, so almost two years before they went to trial. 462 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 6: And these are non violent charges obstruction of an official 463 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 6: preceding the ridiculous seditious conspiracy statute, which is reserved for 464 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 6: real terrorists, not people organizing to go to a political protest. 465 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: So those were the most abused, I believe, But there 466 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 6: were others who were imprisoned for a year fifteen eighteen 467 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 6: months before going to trial and the real outrage there 468 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 6: buck two yes, and held in solitary confinement because of 469 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 6: alleged COVID rules, especially at the Gulag, where people were 470 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 6: transferred from all over the country to go to the 471 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 6: DC Gulag just to torment them. There weren't court proceedings 472 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 6: in person, corp proceedings going on in Washington in twenty 473 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 6: twenty one. They transferred them there, sometimes four or five 474 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 6: different stops along the way at other federal prisons, finally 475 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 6: making it to the DC Gulag, where they had a 476 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 6: special section of the DC prison system set aside for 477 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: Trump supporters. I mean, this is the sort of thing 478 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 6: you read about in Banana republics, not in the United States. 479 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 6: And yes, held in solitary designment, denied access to their family, 480 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 6: denied access to their attorneys. So we are going to 481 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 6: start hearing the horror stories now that these people have 482 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 6: been released about what has happened to them during the proceedings, 483 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 6: and of course while they were in custody in these violent, 484 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 6: dangerous Federal of prisons. 485 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: Were you hearing directly really from some of the families 486 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: as they were finding out that this was real? 487 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, And that's the first time I started hearing 488 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 6: we're from defendants and from family members. Oh my god, 489 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 6: you know so and so is coming home. I can't 490 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 6: believe this is and I kind of didn't believe it either. 491 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 6: I thought, Okay, the pardon, then there will be a 492 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 6: process for getting people out of jail. And it was 493 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 6: happening instantaneously. I believe that the President and I think 494 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 6: his acting DOJ officials, as soon as they took office, 495 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 6: started notifying the Bureau of Prisons in US Marshalls that 496 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 6: this is going to happen and to prepare to release 497 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 6: these defendants. So it was already sort of in motion 498 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: before the President signed that part an order. Last night, 499 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 6: it I think it was seven o'clock Eastern time. 500 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: Speaking of Julie Kelly, Declassified is her substack which you 501 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: can all subscribe to. She did so much great work 502 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: by looking into publicizing advocating for J six prisoners with 503 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: her substack and by coming on shows like this one 504 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: and now, Julie, what I want to know from you 505 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: is what do you want on this issue? And we 506 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: can expand this a bit more broadly into just also 507 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: cleaning up the DOJ and making sure that we don't 508 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: see more of what we saw here with J six 509 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: prisoners and a whole bunch of other things as well, 510 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: with the weaponization of the Justice Department. What do you 511 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: want to see going forward? What does justice look like 512 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: to you? And what does cleaning up DJ look like 513 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: to you? 514 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 6: Well, I will tell you, Buck, I did talk to 515 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 6: the President last week for a lengthy amount of time 516 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 6: about this issue. So obviously he was very adamant about 517 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 6: pardons and also, as we saw with the other executive 518 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 6: order yesterday, cleaning up the Department of Justice, not just 519 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 6: of course what they did to him, but what they 520 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 6: did to Peter Navarro and to Steve Bannon and trying 521 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 6: to destroy Jeff Clark and John Eastman, his attorneys, and 522 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 6: then of course the J sixer. So I think he's 523 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 6: also very committed to exposing everything that went down in 524 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 6: his prosecution. The other prosecutions the J six one as well, 525 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 6: how the FBI was involved, what they did these armed 526 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 6: pre dawn, armed raids for non violent offenders, terrorizing families 527 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 6: and their entire communities. So he you know, this is 528 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 6: just the start. Let's put it that way. This is 529 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 6: just the start of accountability and transparency and all of 530 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 6: the things that I think resulted in President Trump's when 531 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 6: repelling the law fair dangerous, law fair, and a dj 532 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 6: that has no that the American people has no trust in. 533 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: Julie. 534 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: One more for you before we let you get back to, uh, 535 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: you know, relaxing and resting and getting ready for the yeah, 536 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: the the last minute, given how how you've had to 537 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: fight through all of this, this uh insanity from the 538 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: Democrat DOJ under Biden pushing for the most extreme prosecutions 539 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: possible of of J six defendants and all the rest. 540 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: What was it like to see, just as he's. 541 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: Scurrying away from the spotlight, Biden pardon his immediate family members, 542 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: along with Fauci and J six committee people, et cetera, 543 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: but particularly the Biden crime family. 544 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: What was that like for you? 545 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 6: I mean, we were all waiting for that to happen, right, 546 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 6: We knew it was coming, but here it was, you know, 547 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 6: eleven forty five or so Eastern time. He was going 548 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 6: to wait till the very last minute, which he did 549 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 6: to pardon all of his family members, giveing credence to 550 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 6: what we all know is that that is the Biden 551 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 6: crime family, crime racket. And I think we will learn 552 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 6: more about that, all of the business deals that the 553 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 6: Biden family initiated and were engaged in with some of 554 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 6: our foreign adversaries, and then funneling that to Joe Biden 555 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 6: despite all of his protestations to the contrary. But I 556 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 6: will say too, buck back to J six, that also justifies, 557 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 6: I think really adds fuel to the fire that the 558 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 6: J six committee was also a criminal operation, and we 559 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 6: know that they were engaged in criminal conduct, destroying evidence, 560 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 6: supporting perjury, obstructing investigations, so we know that that's the case, 561 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 6: and then pardoning before I call J six celebrity cops 562 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 6: Aquallina Ganell, Mike Finone, Daniel Hodges, and Harry Dunn who 563 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 6: committed perjury not just during that July twenty one televised 564 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 6: performance where they were all crying and lying about their injuries, 565 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 6: but also lying under oath as witnesses and victims in 566 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 6: J six court proceedings begging judges to throw the book 567 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 6: at JAY sixers based on injuries and trauma that they 568 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 6: never sustained. So that I think is a real travesty too, Julie. 569 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 2: Kelly, everybody, Julie, I know, the families and the JA 570 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: six defendants themselves appreciate your work, as does this audience, 571 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: and it must feel good to see. 572 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: How it all came together. 573 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: Finally at the end, thank you so much, Thank you. 574 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 6: Buck, thanks for all your help and covering my work. 575 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: Of course, this country was founded on freedom, personal freedom, 576 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: your ability for you to decide what's best for you 577 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: and your family, and those freedom should apply to pretty 578 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: much every aspect of your life, including your choice of 579 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: cell phone service provider. 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Give some of 602 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 3: your calls. 603 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 2: I've been meaning to get to calls today eight hund 604 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 2: two to two eight eight two and also the next hour. 605 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 2: I think we should talk a bit about how Trump 606 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: is going to be cleaning up some things in the government, 607 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: and they've already started a expulsion of leave behinds and 608 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: political remnants. Trump does not want the petty commissars of 609 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: Bidenism to be able to stay behind enemy lines, so 610 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: to speak, and try to gum up the works like 611 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: they did in the first Trump administration. That was something 612 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: that I was very aware of. I had friends in 613 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: the various Intel agencies, for example, who told me that 614 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: people had even switched from being a point political appointees 615 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: being career civil servant at least that's their designation. I 616 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 2: think they call it burrowing in bureaucratase. And the whole 617 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: idea is that then they cannot be fired, not at 618 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 2: least the same way that a or fired in replace 619 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 2: the same way that a political appointee can be. So 620 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: they're already they're wise to this. You know, they learned 621 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: a lot of lessons from the first administration of Trump 622 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: in terms of how the machinery works, in terms of 623 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: how the other side plays and fights dirty, and so 624 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: it's going to be a whole different ballgame this time. 625 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: And I think it's really encouraging to see that. Encouraging 626 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: to see how they've come out of the gates with 627 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: this just absolute salvo of policy, executive orders and staying 628 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 2: on tasks, staying focused right away. And I will also 629 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: tell you Trump was an incredible dynamo yesterday. I was exhausted, 630 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: Clay stayed out till like almost three o'clock in the morning. 631 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: Carry and I, she's pregnant, and you know, we went 632 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: home by about ten. Trump went from ball to inaugural 633 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 2: ball to inaugural ball. He was signing executive orders for hours. 634 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: He was at the inauguration. Of course, I don't know 635 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: how he does it. It's truly amazing. He's about my 636 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: dad's age, and this guy just is It's like he 637 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: never needs a nap. I don't know. And it's such 638 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: a difference. I mean, I think I need a nap 639 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: right now. Not right now, but at some point today. 640 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: It's such a difference from Biden sleepy Joe. We've gone 641 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: from sleepy Joe to Trump the Dynamo, and it's gonna 642 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: be great for America.