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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Well after our seven year hiatus, Dmitri Moritis back with us.

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Speaker 2: Co founder and spiritual director of the Spiritual Arts Institute,

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Speaker 2: Dmitri has been instrumental in bringing Spiritual Arts Institute to

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Speaker 2: the place that it is today as a premier metaphysical school.

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Speaker 2: With Barbara Martin, he is the co author of a

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Speaker 2: number of international best sellers, Change Your Aura, Change Your Life,

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Speaker 2: Communing with the divine Karma and reincarnation, the healing power

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Speaker 2: of your Aura in the newest book called Heaven and

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Speaker 2: Your Spiritual Evolution. He is a very eloquent speaker, as

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Speaker 2: you'll find out, on a wide variety of spiritual topics.

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Speaker 2: Has lectured around the country, appeared on numerous programs and

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Speaker 2: media shows, and leads the workshops and training classes offered

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Speaker 2: at the Institute. With Barbara Dmitri Welcome back, way too long.

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Speaker 2: How have you been.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I've been good. It's really nice to be on

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Speaker 3: your show again. Good to hear your voice.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this. Is there a heaven? I

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Speaker 2: bet there is?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank God.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 3: There has to be something to aspire to. And I

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Speaker 3: know some people think it's wishful thinking, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it's how we deal with the ambiguities of our life.

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Speaker 3: But every mystical tradition is actually talked about a greater

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Speaker 3: beyond and another side. And you know, even traditions that

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Speaker 3: you may think don't talk so much about it, like Buddhism,

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Speaker 3: they do. Actually, it's just not as emphasized as other

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Speaker 3: aspects of their teaching. So it's been part of every tradition.

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Speaker 3: Of course, people have had experiences with it, and as

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Speaker 3: you know with Barbara, a lot of in the books

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Speaker 3: are from her own experiences, and so we try to

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Speaker 3: share that this is something real and it's something for everyone.

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Speaker 3: It's we're all aspiring to it. And the book is

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Speaker 3: called Heaven and Your Spiritual Evolutions. So what we actually

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Speaker 3: say is you don't go to heaven, you grow to heaven.

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Speaker 3: It's an evolutionary process and we're all part of that process.

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Speaker 2: How quickly when one dies do they get to those

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Speaker 2: pearly gates?

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Speaker 3: I wish it was fast, but you know, here's in

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Speaker 3: you know, the first time we were on your show,

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Speaker 3: we talked about carmen reincarnation. I still remember that experience vividly,

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Speaker 3: and the idea is that it takes more than one

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Speaker 3: lifetime to get there, because if you think of Earth

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Speaker 3: like a school, and our laps on earth, our incarnations

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Speaker 3: are sort of like grades in school. We you know,

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Speaker 3: hopefully our next life is better than one before, and

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Speaker 3: we're eventually kind of climbing up that spiritual ladder and

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Speaker 3: then we earn the ranks of heaven. But the idea

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Speaker 3: is there's just too much to learn in life to

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Speaker 3: get it all in one lifetime, So you come back

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Speaker 3: multiple times as part of this grand evolutionary process, and

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Speaker 3: everything you do matters. It's part of the journey. It's

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Speaker 3: part of the learning experience, and eventually it gets you

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Speaker 3: to that those higher realms. And of course there are

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Speaker 3: many stages there. You don't go from here just to heaven.

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Speaker 3: The Bible talks about, you know, in my father's house

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Speaker 3: are many mansions, So there are many stages of development,

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Speaker 3: There are levels of consciousness, but they're actual, real places

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Speaker 3: that you can be part of.

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Speaker 2: And you don't have to be particularly religious to get

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's not a it's not you know, the

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Speaker 3: religions honor it. But it's not a religious it's where

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Speaker 3: you are in your heart. You know, there are people,

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Speaker 3: as Barbara say, they go to church on Sunday and

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Speaker 3: they're cheating their partners on Monday. You know, you have

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Speaker 3: to live the laws, right, you have to live the

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Speaker 3: spiritual life. And there are right people that are living

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Speaker 3: And they're developing themselves. They're doing very well. So it's

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Speaker 3: where your heart is. It's are you really trying to

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Speaker 3: You know, they say leave the world better than the

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Speaker 3: way you found it, right, and hopefully you're all doing that.

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Speaker 3: But you also want to leave the world in a

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not the same person as when I

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Speaker 2: When you got to this journey, was there a specific

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Speaker 3: Oh, definitely. I came to California and the Los Angeles

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Speaker 3: know experiences. I called them my inspiration moments. They came

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Speaker 3: without any control. They were definitely heightened states of awareness

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Speaker 3: they got so strong. I had what I called my

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Speaker 3: like falling in love and realizing this is the love

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Speaker 3: a year later, I met Barbara at a at a

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Speaker 3: dinner party, and you know, that night, after talking with her,

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Speaker 3: I realized, Wow, I found my spiritual teacher.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And then we started, you know, she taught

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Speaker 3: me right away. But they were also both loved to write,

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Speaker 3: starting to groom me to eventually you know, re a

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Speaker 2: About a year ago, Rayleioda died on us, the great

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to ask you he died in his sleep.

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Speaker 2: kind of take us through that. So he's in bed,

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Speaker 3: Right? It's a nice way to go, right, gentle.

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Speaker 2: That's the best way to go. Really really, I.

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Speaker 3: Love whatdy Allen's line. You know, I'm not afraid of dying.

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to be there when it happened.

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Speaker 3: But generally, what a lot of it has to do

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Speaker 3: For example, if you really believe if it's womb to tomb,

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Speaker 3: They're people that are so focused, either through a tragedy

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Speaker 3: I had the experience with an earth bound spirit when

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Speaker 3: really Liota or again, I don't know what his personal

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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, did you think he literally walked out

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Speaker 3: And then you given that opportunity to come back and

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Speaker 3: It doesn't just happen. We've earned it. We should never commiserate, Oh,

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Speaker 3: of course that music is still uplifting as sweat for

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Speaker 2: Well with Dimitri Moriitis. His latest book with Barbara Martin

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Speaker 2: is Heaven and Your Spiritual Evolution. You mentioned something about reincarnation. Yes,

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Speaker 2: how soon does the soul reincarnate after they die?

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Speaker 3: Right, if it was a tragic, premature death, you reincarnate

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Speaker 3: very quickly. There were stories of children that were born

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Speaker 3: the divine gives them the opportunity very quickly to reincarnate.

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Speaker 3: And yes, sometimes they're sort of bringing back some of

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Speaker 3: other side, to assimilate the things. You know, all these

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Speaker 2: Is there a regret when you die.

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Speaker 3: If things were left undone, if things done definitely regret.

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Speaker 3: For example, there's a story that was told by a

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Speaker 3: He realized, oh, maybe I was a little too tough.

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Speaker 3: you know, so his soul is going to learn that life.

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Speaker 3: And the good news is, you know, there's no sin

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Speaker 3: past redemption. Yes there are darker regions on the other side,

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Speaker 3: but there's no eternal hell. Were always have this opportunity

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Speaker 3: it's part of the learning process. What the divine shares

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Speaker 3: with us is, Look, you're gonna make mistakes, you're in school,

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Speaker 3: but we do sometimes see you make the same mistake

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