1 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode five the Habitary of 2 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Tory podcast. I am your host, spread Roland, coming to 3 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: you on a Friday evening here in mid May, and 4 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: I'm joined tonight by Steven Tolbert Stephen. How are you 5 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: deep into the night here as we're going to the weekend. 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: What's up, Brad? Yeah, we weren't sure if we were 7 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: gonna have a game. This evening started out with about 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 2: an hour long rain delay, and you and I were 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: texting about exactly how long we were gonna hold off 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 2: on this thing. But it actually ended up working out 11 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: pretty well. The weather held off, and it's obviously a 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: lot better to wait all that time and finish up 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: with a win. So that makes it a little little 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: easier to stay up late and do one of these. 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: But I'm doing well, man. 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: It certainly does make it a little bit easier. You 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: were looking at the radar as was I. I was 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: surprised how easy it was in a good way. But 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: the game actually happened tonight. Just so everybody knows. Programming wise, 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: this would often be Sean and Steven. Shawn's taking care 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: of some families out tonight, No big deal. That's why 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: there's four of us. We're going to mix some match 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: and we should say at the top of the show, 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: we want to encourage you to make us a place 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: that you come back to regularly. Go ahead and subscribe 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: to this podcast Hamper Territory anywhere you might find podcasts 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: that includes Apple and Spotify. We're also a part of 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: the foul Territory network of programs. Always happy to be 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: a part of that program. As we're getting started again 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: in a new place, So go ahead and follow us 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: and rate and review and tell your friends about the show. 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: But for the most part, we'll dive into what was 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: a nice win for the Braves. They're now one three 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: games in a row. We have the mini sweep which 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: I chronicled in depth with Scott on Wednesday evening into Thursday, 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: where they beat Boston twice in a row, and they 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: get a four to two victory tonight over the Mets. 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Beyond the rain delay, all of the fireworks and I 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: actually all of the fireworks for the Braves offensively happened 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: in a four batter span in the third inning. Now, 41 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun, but it was three 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: home runs in four batters with a walk in between. 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: And not a whole lot else. So number one steven, 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: I guess, like that was fun, But what do you 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: make of the rest of it, Like, is there any 46 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: concern about you know, the offense still hasn't quite gotten 47 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: it all together, but lots talk about that, including on 48 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: with you guys and with us and et cetera, et cetera. 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: Like even tonight they got to win, but it was 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: like they scored ten runs. 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: You definitely want to see more runs. You want to 52 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: see more hits. I was looking at up before the 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: game started. The last time the Braves had ten hits 54 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: in a game, not runs, ten hits in a game 55 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: was April twenty fourth, So that was like sixteen days ago. 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: Seventeen days ago, over two weeks ago, the last time 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: the Braves had ten hits in a game, which is wild. 58 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: I mean, that's you know, this is this was the 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: best offensive baseball last year, one of the best offenses 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: we've ever seen, and they're having a hard time just 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: stacking hits together. So yes, it's good to see that 62 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: they you know, at least they were getting home runs tonight, right, 63 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: it wasn't just singles, it was balls out of the ballpark. 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: Ronnie hit one a mile see Olsen get it. You know, 65 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: the monkey off his back, Ozzie Snuck went over. 66 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: That's great to see. 67 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: It's great to see the power, but the offense is 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: still not quite right. And I will say there was 69 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: a lot of loud contact tonight like Ronnie had. Ronnie 70 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: should have probably had four hits tonight with the way 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: he hit the ball. 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: He had one. So you know, if you squint, you 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: can see it. 74 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 2: Like you can start to see like the twenty twenty 75 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: three offense coming around much better at bats. I think 76 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: the top of the order is coming. I think the 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: bottom of the order is is probably. 78 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: Going a little bit. 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: Ironically, I'm more worried about the bottom of the order 80 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: that I am the top for the first time this 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: year probably, so that's I guess that's a bit of 82 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: a flip. But you can see it coming, like the 83 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: offense is coming. It's not there yet. We're still not 84 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: to the point where you know, the full time ballent 85 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: level of the team is showing itself, but better at bats. 86 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: The top of the lineup looks like it's starting to 87 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: see the ball better and hopefully as we get into 88 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: the warmer months, you know, we start seeing a little 89 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: bit of what last year was. 90 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, that's right, and I totally agree with you 91 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: about the worry meter. You know, it helps that the 92 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: top that order was responsible for those four runs and 93 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: four batters. Today you mentioned Ronald Ronald's looking like the 94 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: guy he used to be, which is obviously what you 95 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: want to see. I was never worried that wouldn't happen. 96 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: But he had an absolute take of a home run 97 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: four sixty one I believe was where it was measured 98 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: at like one hundred and fifteen miles explocity, like an 99 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: absolute blast in a throw back way. I believe I 100 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: saw a stat that he is now three or four 101 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: home runs clear of the field in all of baseball 102 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: in the last like five years on home runs of 103 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: this distance or further like he is in this along 104 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: with like it's like him and Aaron Judge basically that 105 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: can hit the ball this far, which is a lot 106 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of fun. Of course, you know, Ossie 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: follows that up and then look, matt Olsen. I have 108 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: been saying repeatedly that I'm not worried about Matt Olsen. 109 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: Stacktot's profile looks good. He's sitting the ball hard. But 110 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: he hasn't hit a home run in like a month, 111 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not exaggerating, it's actually been a month. But 112 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: he homered today and that was good to see after 113 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: of course, he had fifty four a year ago. I 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna get to that number this year 115 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: based on this start. But at the same time, Matt 116 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: Olsen is a proven, at the very least thirty five 117 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: forty home run hitter and him kind of gigged back 118 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: on the on the horse, so to speak, with a 119 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: long ball is encouraging you if you were ride Aline, 120 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't. 121 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 122 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: I think the broadcast said that it was the longest 123 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: homerless streak of Olson's career. I think they said because 124 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: it's been Yeah, it's been over a month. Like you said, 125 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: it was April seventh, was the last time, you know, 126 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: home run. So yeah, that's wild. I mean, obviously that's 127 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: wild for a guy who hit fifty four home runs 128 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: last year. But like you said, he I mean, the 129 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: Braves led the world in barrel outs for the first 130 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: month and Olsen was part of that. Riley really is 131 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: the one that paid for most of that, honestly, But 132 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm just seeing Ronald. Ronald hit three or four balls 133 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: in the air tonight, hit him home. That's good to 134 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: see obviously. So yeah, I mean, you you know, you 135 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: don't worry. It's it is still April. We saw last 136 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: year Marcelo Zuna had the worst April I think I've 137 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: ever seen any hit or have. And then from that 138 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: point on he was, you know, he was like prime 139 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: a rod. So it happens like guys have bad aprils. Now, 140 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: obviously the Braves had a bunch of guys have a 141 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: bad April, and really, to be fair, it was really 142 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: the last two weeks of April. They really started out 143 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: pretty well. But the offense is coming. And you know, 144 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: if those four guys, if Akunya, Ozzie Riley Olsen, if 145 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: those guys just hit at their level, not even like 146 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: superstar level, just like their average level, the Braids are 147 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: gonna be fantastic. I mean, their Braids are gonna win 148 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: probably ninety plus games just off that alone. Now, if 149 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: any of them even goes above and beyond that, it 150 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: could be even better. But that's how much talent this 151 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: team has. They don't need anybody to go crazy. Just 152 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: if everybody hits their level, you know this team is 153 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: gonna be fine. So yeah, it's good to see. It's 154 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: not like it's not like we were ever fully worried 155 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 2: about it, but it is still nice to see. 156 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: My favorite go to stat for Mett Olsen has been 157 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: that even coming into tonight, So before the home run, 158 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: he was ninety seven percentile in ex velocity this year 159 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: and nine six percentile in hard hit rate, So like 160 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: he was never going to be what he's been so far. 161 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: The data does not support him struggling to the level 162 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: he's been struggling so far, and he saw a little 163 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: bit of a glimpse of that this evening. You mentioned 164 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of the worry at the bottom of 165 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: the order. I wanted to tee up a little bit. 166 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: Michael Harris is in the midst of quite an ugly stretch, 167 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: and I know you've been observed to things there, So 168 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: what are you making of this because he's near the 169 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: bottom of the order. Has been talking about him hitting 170 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: behind our CEO that stuff too, But he is as 171 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: cool as Olsen was for a while, as cool as 172 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Ryy was for a while. Harris is having the worst 173 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: stretch that I think anybody in the laps had so 174 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: far this year. 175 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, Harris's struggles are more concerning to me than Riley 176 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: Olsen or Acunya's ever were, because Harris's struggles are more 177 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: process based. And what I mean by that is if 178 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: you look at the profile he's running. And I talked 179 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: about this a lot about a month ago, but at 180 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: the time when I was talking about it, Harris was 181 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: still having a pretty good start. He got off to 182 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: a really decent start to the year, and so people 183 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: got very mad at me for pointing this out, and 184 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: a lot of I believe a lot of a lot. 185 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: Of angry tweets that I can't repeat on air. 186 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: But but he's he's consistently running this profile where he 187 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: is chasing everything. He is swinging at everything. Colin m Q, 188 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: who did a fantastic job on the broadcast tonight, by 189 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: the way, pointed this out tonight. But he's running the 190 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: highest swing rate of his career. He's running one of 191 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: the highest chase rates of He's just swinging at like, 192 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: he's just swinging at everything. 193 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: And I have a stat for you, by the way, 194 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: he is currently first percentile in baseball in chase rate. Yeah, 195 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: first percentile and that's the bad way. You don't want 196 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: you don't that's not that you want to be one 197 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent, not first. First percentile is very bad. 198 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: Right, He's at the bottom. Basically, he's the he and listen. 199 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: And this is why I was talking about this earlier 200 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 2: in the year, is because there is a whole like 201 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: Hobby Baia's career path that you want absolutely nothing to 202 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: do with. Like, you can have all the talent in 203 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: the world, but if you don't fix this problem, if 204 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: you don't stop chasing pitches that are not strikes, then 205 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: pictures just stop throwing you strikes. And when pitchers stop 206 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: throwing you strikes, you're done. Like, if you're not taking 207 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: walks off those pitches, then why would they ever throw 208 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: you a pitch in the strike zone. And you know, 209 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: people have always looked at Michael's k rate and said, well, 210 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's not a bad k rate, like 211 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: he's fine there. But the problem is Michael's really good 212 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: at making contact at those awful pitches below the z own, 213 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: which is why he runs like a sixty percent ground 214 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: ball rate for his career. So no, he's not swinging 215 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: and missing like Bias does. He's making contact on him, 216 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: but it's it's awful contact. It's contact that's never going 217 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: to lead to any sort of production. And so this 218 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: is the worry with him, and it is a worry. 219 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: It's you know again, this is this is the raw data, 220 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: this is in his profile. This is not just results 221 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: based or you know, a product of small sample theater. 222 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: You know, this is a real issue for him, and. 223 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: He's got to figure it out. 224 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: He's got to figure out a way to not swing 225 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: it at terrible pitches, because when you do that, it's 226 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: almost impossible to be good. I mean, go go online, 227 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: go to savant or fangrass wherever, and sort go to 228 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: like the Chase stat or I think Fangrass calls it, like, 229 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: oh swing and sort by the guys who do it 230 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: the most, and by the guys who do it the least, 231 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: and the guys who do it the least. You'll see 232 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: Juan Soto, Mookie Bets, Aaron Judge, Mike Like, You'll see 233 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: the best hitters in baseball on that list of guys 234 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: who just do not swing at bad pictures. Acuna is 235 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: on that list too. He does not swing at bad pitches. 236 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: And if you go and sort it by the guys 237 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: who do it the most. That is not a list 238 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: you want to be on. And that is where Michael is, 239 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: and it has been for a lot of his career. 240 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: And this is just something he's got to fix because 241 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: pitchers will make you pay for this over and over 242 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: and over again if it's not something you fix. And 243 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: it's it's a big part of his profile right now. 244 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: I am with you hundred percent on that. You know, 245 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: this year has been even more pronounced. I gave that 246 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: first percentile stat he's again this is coming into the 247 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: night on Baseball Savant Slash stat cast, he had a 248 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: forty five percent chase rate, which is just absurdly high 249 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: for some context. He's always been high to your point, 250 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: and you're at you one hundred percent right about this, 251 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: but even you know, coming into the year is the 252 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: last two years that was like in the high thirties, 253 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, thirty eight, thirty nine percent, which was still bad, 254 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: but it was like you know, seventh percentile, eighth percentile, 255 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: like still not where you want to be, but not 256 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: quite as comical as it's been so far. So it's 257 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: going the wrong way, which is not what you want 258 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: to say for young player. Of course, he's been able 259 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: to hit at a high level in his first two 260 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: full seasons. Not star level production at the plate, but 261 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: star level overall production when you combine what his value 262 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: has been on the base pass and especially in the 263 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: outfield at a preom position in center field. So like, 264 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: as we've all said numerous times, he doesn't have to 265 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: be an elite bat to be a very very good player. 266 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: But it is going to be hard. It would be 267 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: hard for anyone to keep up any level of average 268 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: production swings as often as he has this year and 269 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: a still small sample size this year, but given all 270 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: all the history, it's gonna be hard for him to 271 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: kind of get to work. We all hope that he 272 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: can be, because you know, I know I was calling 273 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: him as a potential breakout guy this year, even in 274 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: comparison to where he's already been, which is already really 275 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: good player. But you mean, if all I told you 276 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: Stephen was that he was going to have this chase 277 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: rate that basically on its own eliminates most of his 278 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: high end outcomes offensively, it's it's not big. It's not 279 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: big of a problem because you just cannot be what 280 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: you would need to be as an overall hitter when 281 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: you were swinging at this many bad pitches. 282 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Well, when people will point to you know, he's had 283 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: decent years and has had a chase rate that's not 284 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: been great both years, and that is true, but like 285 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: you said, it's worse. 286 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: It's worse, first of all. 287 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: And second of all, like Hobby Baya's had a couple 288 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: of really good years with Chicago early in his career, Like, 289 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: you can fake it for a while, like because because 290 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: pitchers are are still gonna throw you strike, Like it 291 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: takes a little while for pictures to fully understand that 292 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna swing at everything, and so there's literally no 293 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: point in throwing you strikes, like like Mike's still seeing 294 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: a decent amount of strikes, but that number will just 295 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: go down and down and down and down and down. 296 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: And if you are not walking, if you are allowing 297 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: pictures to get you out by throwing pitches out of 298 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: the zone consistently, that's all you'll ever see, because there's 299 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: no reason to throw a ball over the plate if 300 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna swing at everything. And that's what's gonna slowly 301 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 2: happen to Michael, Like it slowly happened to Bias, where 302 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,359 Speaker 2: just pictures just kept going. 303 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: Further and further away, further and further down. 304 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: Now, I will say it's a little easier for Mike 305 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: because he's left handed and there's not as many left 306 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: handed pitchers that can you throw a sweeping slider off 307 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: the plate. I mean, Hobby Bias' career has basically been 308 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: ruined by the fact that he can't lay off sliders 309 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: off the plate, which is obviously what every right hander 310 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: throws him. And there's not as many left handers in 311 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: the game to do that to Michael, so it's not 312 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: as easy to do that to a left handed hitter. 313 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: But every single picture he faces has a pitch that 314 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: can go somewhere below the zone and that's his achilles 315 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: heel right now, anything below the zone he's swinging at 316 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: and if he you know, if he hits it at all, 317 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: it's just a ground ball. And maybe it's a hit, 318 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: and people, you know, get excited when it's a hit, 319 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: but it's it's not good process and it's not gonna 320 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: lead to great results unless he fixes. You just got 321 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: to take that pitch, and that's the next step for him. 322 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: He's got to take that pitch. 323 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: It's a good way to think about it. It's something 324 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: for people to watch who are maybe not always like 325 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: in the absolute super into the numbers and all the 326 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: all the approach stuff. But that's a very it's a 327 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: pretty obvious thing to kind of just take a step 328 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: back and be like, all right, pay attention to whether 329 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: Michael Harris is swinging at bad pitches. It's that simple 330 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: in some ways. So keep an eye on that for sure, 331 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: because you know he's in the midst of this downturn. 332 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Even with his peripherals, he's not gonna have one hit. 333 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: He has one hit sets aver twenty seventh like he's 334 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: in I think it's like one of his last thirty two, Like, 335 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be this bad even with that number. But 336 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: it's just something to keep an eye on for the future. 337 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: Other than that tonight, I mean on Friday, guess again, 338 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: as we're recording this. The other big story was Charlie Morton, 339 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: who was just very very good once again, ether seven 340 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: innings with three hits, set his breakouts, one walk, missed 341 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: a lot of bats. Charlie's now sitting with a three 342 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: point one four ERA for the year ninety nine. Pitches 343 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: like him eating innings was it was important to it 344 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: in a busy week for the Braves coming up. I thought, 345 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: you looked really good again. I know I'm kind of 346 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: known as the Morton guy, but objectively he's just done 347 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: his job very well this year. 348 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: Every time he has a good game, I think of 349 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: Brad Rland. Honestly, it's it's to that point where like 350 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: you know you've been the It's like Coyle Wright with 351 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: with Scott, like you know you've been the guy because 352 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: you know there was there was There's been times last year, 353 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: there were times a year before, there were times where 354 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: he hasn't looked the best. 355 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: Four years old, and people have gotten people. 356 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Have gotten loud about the fact that you know, maybe 357 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: it's time for him to hang it up. And then 358 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: inevitably you look up at the end of the year 359 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: and he's got an e RA in the three, a 360 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: fip in the threes, and you know they they re 361 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: up it for another year and same thing this year. 362 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: You know, after tonight he's got an e ra in 363 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: the three, he's got a fip in the threes. He 364 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: just keeps on chugging. He passed two thousand career innings tonight, 365 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: which is a heck of an accomplishment for any pitcher. 366 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean he looked great. I mean fastball, 367 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: he's always been able to hold the velocity, still throw 368 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: in ninety five ninety six, struck out the side in 369 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: the first. You know, the Braves gave him that four 370 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: to er lead, and I think he sat down. I 371 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: think he gave up one hit but immediately got a 372 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: double play. I think he I think like twelve. I 373 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: think he went twelve for twelve in the next. Yeah, 374 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: the twelve hitters to get outs once the Braves game 375 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: a four a lead, which is huge obviously to that 376 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: many shutdown innings in a row. Didn't give up any 377 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: damage till the seventh, where he gave up the leadoff 378 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: homer to Lindoor and then the bullpen came in and 379 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: shut it down. But yeah, he looked fantastic. The starting 380 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: pitching has just been a you know, this is a 381 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: whole probably a whole podcast we could do. We're not 382 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: gonna do tonight, but starting pitching has been absurd. You know, 383 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: during this offensive downturn, you know, the team is still 384 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: twenty three and twelve a lot in large part because 385 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: the starting rotation has been just reach and one or 386 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: two runs a night, it seems like every night, and 387 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: just giving everybody the best chance to win the game. 388 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: So kudos to morton another great game. And you know 389 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: he makes you look good every time he does it, 390 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: because you've been the guy that's been ringing that bell 391 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: for the last two years. 392 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm often wrong, and maybe Trial will cool off, but 393 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: it has been fun to watch. And yeah, we all 394 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: understand he's four years old. It's not you can't rely 395 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: even and I like, I will raise my hand and 396 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: say that you can't rely on this. I would have 397 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: projected him to be a little bit worse than this 398 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: so far, and maybe he can do this again at 399 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: age forty, but so far, you know that eer and 400 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: the low threes fit and next fip in the mid threes, 401 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Like that's that's an excellent especially when he is your 402 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: fourth starter or whatever it's supposed to be. Right now, 403 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: with the way Lopez is pitching, with the way Sail 404 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: is pitching, obviously, with the ways free Freed has pitched 405 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: at times this year, like you're in a luxurious place 406 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: and you're right, we won't do it now, but there 407 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: is there's a lot of words to be said about 408 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: the way that they have pitched in the rotation since 409 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: kind of a slow start of course, then slow start 410 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: plus the loss of Strider, it was like, okay, a 411 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a little bit of fear happening here, 412 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: and then ever since then, basically it's been absolutely lights 413 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: out from everybody other than the fifth spot, which is rotated. 414 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: But that's kind of what fifth spots do. I don't 415 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: we won't do that a competition either, because Scott and 416 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time on that the other day. 417 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: But fifth spots are just kind of what they are. Man, 418 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of how I feel about that. But if 419 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: you're top four are good, that's kind of all that 420 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: matters to me. 421 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's been you know, it's almost immediately after 422 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: it happened, like is immediately when Strider went down, and 423 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: you know, when the offense kind of started being a 424 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: little shaky, like everybody just locked in. And I can't 425 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: remember the last time, you know, one of the big 426 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: four guys, Max Sale, Ronaldo or Morton had a bad game. Honestly, 427 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: I don't even I can't even tell you all the 428 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: time I watched. 429 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: It Okay, it really hasn't happened. I mean there was 430 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: there been like end of starts were like maybe a 431 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: little bit, it gets a little bit loose, like Lopez 432 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: the other day when he lost his command at the 433 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: very end and the sixth inning or whatever. But I 434 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: think the last time that Braves had a bad start 435 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: other than the fifth spot, which was you know, Elder 436 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: had one. Of course in La Ryan's had one. But like, yeah, 437 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's been it might be a full month. 438 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: Now it's been a month. I think it's been a 439 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: bad start. 440 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean from a guy who was one of 441 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: those top four. So yeah, it's not sustainable, like they're 442 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: not going to be this incredibly consistent all year long. 443 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: But I think that if you put this top four again, 444 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: knock on wood healthy. It's crazy to say without Strider, 445 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: but this is still a I don't want to call 446 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: it elite maybe, but it might. It might be elite 447 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: that top four at the moment with the weather pitching. 448 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: I talked about this with Sean hand up Man. I 449 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: did not see Ronaldo Lopez being this good. I saw, 450 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: you know, I liked a Chris Sale deal. I was 451 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: a little scared because of the injury history, he's been unbelievable. 452 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: You know, Max got off to that. 453 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: Slow start, nobody really worries about him, and then Charlie 454 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: just keeps on keeping on. 455 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: The One thing I'll say about. 456 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: Charlie, and it's relevant obviously because he pitched tonight, but 457 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: he is forty years old, but his arm is not 458 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: forty years old, if that makes sense. Like he was 459 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: a late each starter in his career, like he really wasn't, 460 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: you know, he kind of reinvented himself when he got 461 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: to Houston, and you know, he pitched for. 462 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 3: The Pirates, he pitched for the Braves. 463 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: Really in his career really wasn't very good. He didn't 464 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: pitch a lot. You know, he doesn't have that typical like, 465 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: you know, ton and tons and tons and tons and 466 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: tons of innings on his arm like a typical forty 467 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: year old would. He was kind of a late starter, 468 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: so he might be able to go a little deeper 469 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 2: than your average forty year old. 470 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: He was awesome tonight and that was very helpful after 471 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: the offense kind of cooled off following that big inning, 472 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: but it was smooth sailing from there and a third 473 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: rate victory to kind of silence, or at least quiet. 474 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: Some of the what I would what I would say, 475 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: we're pretty funny murmurs from earlier this week into last 476 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: week about how this team was he needed a shake 477 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: up or whatever. It was going to be another winning 478 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: games again, and it's pretty quiet around here. The other 479 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: big story, though, Stephen, from the last two days. In fact, 480 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: we were called several times on social media for an 481 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: emergency podcast, mostly in jest, I think, but there was 482 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: this combination of trades that happened to kind of swap 483 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: back up middle infielders. First, Luis Girome getting traded to 484 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: the Angels for either cash or a player to be 485 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: named later. Of course, to Girome was not around for 486 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: very long. It was a one year, cheap deal. He 487 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: only played in a game once since April twenty fourth, 488 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: so basically he was playing when Ozzie was out and 489 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: then he's kind of gone into obscurity, which wasn't super shocking, 490 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: but that's kind of what happened there. It looked briefly 491 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: like it was gonna be David Fletcher time for the Braves, 492 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: but then literally within hours, they acquired Zach Short from 493 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: Boston for cash. He had been defad by the Red Sox, 494 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: but he's kind of had a weird route this year. 495 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: He was with the Mets. He was traded to Boston 496 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: like ten days ago. He's another kind of anonymous utility guy, 497 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: backup rough hitting infielder, very similar to Yurame. So, like, 498 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: I know you may joke about this, like about there's 499 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: not really much to say, but is there anything to 500 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: say here? Like I've seen some pretty funny opinions and 501 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: theories on this, but it feels like it's kind of 502 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: a shrug to me. 503 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could put a gun to my head. 504 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I could come up with an interesting 505 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: take on swagging out. 506 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: I had to ask you, man, it's two in season 507 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: trades and then in one day. Basically it's like, all right, 508 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: this is this is contest for us. 509 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say, and we talked about this 510 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: a lot in spring training, and this is something I thought, 511 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: and I'm going to be one hundred percent honest, this 512 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: is why I thought that Giormey signing was weird to 513 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: begin with. Is you know one thing we talked about 514 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 2: a lot in spring is when you're talking about your 515 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: backup infield or the most important function is can they 516 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: play shortstop? Right, because you have to have you have 517 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: to have somebody that can play shortop if your guy 518 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: gets hurt. 519 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: Yep. 520 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: And so you know, when they signed Giormey, who is 521 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: typically not a shortstop, he's more of a second base, 522 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: third base guy, everybody was kind of like this is weird, 523 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: like this doesn't really fit. And then over spring training 524 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: they you know, they had him out at shortstop quite 525 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: a bit. He looked decent, so I guess they were 526 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: fine with it. You know what they said when what's 527 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: what's Nicker said the other day when he was asked 528 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: about the deal, was you know, the thing with ironically 529 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: his name is Zach Short. The thing with Zach Short 530 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: is he can play short He can play shortstop, and 531 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: that's the whole reason they got him. And that makes 532 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: sense to me. You know, I guess I don't really 533 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: understand why they just didn't do that in the off 534 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: season when they needed a backup infielder, but you know whatever, 535 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, he's never gonna play, just like 536 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 2: every other bench player on this team. And you know, 537 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: if you ever see him, that means somebody either got 538 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: hurt or somebody needs to be pinch run. 539 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: For but yeah, he can play shortstop. 540 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: I think is the the reason other than that, yeah, 541 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't have much. 542 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a temptation to give all kinds 543 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: of series that that is a pretty good one. I think, 544 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, the only counter would be like, why wouldn't 545 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: they This is the question that I was asked, like, 546 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: why wouldn't they just give David Fletcher that job? And 547 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, that's a reasonable thing to say. I think 548 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: that it wouldn't bother me if they did. I think 549 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: that maybe they want a little bit of depth there, 550 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: and Fletcher is in the minors and they can kind of, 551 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, plug that forty man spot while keeping him around. 552 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: But I think that if you asked me to give 553 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: his strong opinion whether it was Zach Short or David 554 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: Fletcher is going to be better in that role, I 555 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: don't have one for you. So maybe it's as simple 556 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: as just like having two guys that have one in 557 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: case something happens weird, because if Arcia gets hurt, I mean, 558 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: they don't Ozzie can't play there anymore. That was, of 559 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: course a pet theory from years ago about him playing 560 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: short stop that those days are long gone. He can't 561 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: play there. So like maybe it's just as they want 562 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: to have two guys if Arcia goes down and that 563 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: way they have a backup. But other than that, it's 564 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: like Zach Short versus David Fletcher. I don't really it's nothing. 565 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't care. It's that I don't think it's hugely 566 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: impactful in the moment. 567 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a whole fascinating conversation. We're not going 568 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: to do it tonight, but there's like a whole fascinating conversation. 569 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Like if us Urcio went down for like a long time, 570 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: for years, they had von Grissom down there at least 571 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: as a you know, as a stop gap, but they 572 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: don't really even have that. 573 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: And they got they got, they got not Chow Man. 574 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 3: They got much they got, and honest to god, it 575 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: might be not chowing. 576 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I mean, I think, I think. I 577 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: think that if if something happened to Arcia for three 578 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: months right now, they would either promote Nacho pretty quickly 579 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: or they would trade for somebody. 580 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, is not This shows how much I follow the miners. 581 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: Is not you in Double A or is currently in 582 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: double a and he's very young, and I'm planning to 583 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: have someone more prospect focused than any of us are 584 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: on the show pretty soon. But you know, that kind 585 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: of came up in the middle of this. I saw 586 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: some of the smarter prospect guys like, hey, uh, you know, 587 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: Nacho's not far away. It's like, well, yeah, and maybe 588 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: they don't. That's another reason why they may not care 589 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: too much about that spot beyond our cee because look, 590 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: RC has done incredible job. He's doing just fine, and 591 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: they're not worried about shortstop in the short term. It's 592 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: just a depth thing. But yeah, it was. I think 593 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: everybody can probably tell by our tone, like this is 594 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: not the most impactful series of moves. It's just that 595 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: it happened on an off day, which always puts a 596 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: little bit more shine on things. And it was literally 597 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: two trades of major leaguers in one day, and that's 598 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: just something that doesn't often happen in me. 599 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: And I think both deals were for a cash consideration, 600 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: like the. 601 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: Yea the Braves trade. 602 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: Gior May is a player to be named later or cash, 603 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: so we don't know yet, but it's probably gonna be cash. 604 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: And the and the short deal is cash, so yeah. 605 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Angels are I mean, God bless Ron Washington. 606 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. 607 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: The Bridgs are gonna show up to the clubhouse one 608 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: day and Robin Washington's just gonna be standing there with 609 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: his bags because of the of the mess you. 610 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah there, I'm sure. I think I think it was you. 611 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: Somebody made note or made fun of the lineup. The 612 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: Angels ran out there the other day where they announced 613 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: their lineup, like I literally meant it was like ten 614 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: minutes before first pitch. Yeah, it was the worst thing 615 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Like the their beat guys were like, 616 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: there's no lineup, and like people, you know, the crowd 617 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: is there, like they're doing like all the like the 618 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: initial pregame stuff that you do in the stadium that's 619 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: like on schedule that that lasts like thirty minutes before 620 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: a game. If you've never been to a game on 621 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: a regular basis, it's like it's the same schedule like 622 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: for you know, national anthem and the same like ads, 623 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: all that stuff is kind of all happening, and they 624 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: didn't have a lineup. 625 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: No lineup. 626 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: Yea, it was just the worst I've ever seen. But uh, 627 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: gior may look isn't a bad player, Like he's not 628 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: a great hitter. But to answer the big question of why, 629 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: I think the hopefully the most natural explanation is exactly 630 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: what you said. It's just they probably trust short to 631 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: play more short, to play more short. Yeah, and that's 632 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: kind of it. So yeah, all right, Well, other than that, Steven, 633 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: I guess we could just mention that Pierce Johnson seems 634 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: to be a little bit closer than expected. Yeah, that's 635 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: that's probably good at least. Note Snicker said that today 636 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: he's already throwing off the mountain or he's close to it. 637 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: That's a huge boon if that's real. Like, I mean, 638 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, anytime you get an elbow inflammation, it's like 639 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: a little bit scary. You never want to speculate. But 640 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: it's like he could be out for any length of 641 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: time that you want to guess. But it seems like 642 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: it might be a pretty short stint for him, and 643 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: that's huge if that's real. 644 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was it was either you or 645 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: Scott on the last show. I think talking about like 646 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 2: the the shortage of right handers in the bullpen. If 647 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: the Scott, Yeah, yeah, if if Pierce Johnson's not there, 648 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: like it's it's a Glaciers, it's Joejanmenez and then it's 649 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: like the next is like Jesse Chavez like it. 650 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: And the people were clamoring for Ken Giles, but clamoring 651 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: for Ken Giles. 652 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not a good If you're clamoring for 653 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: Ken Giles, you are not in. 654 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: A good spot. 655 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: So so yeah, if if Pierce Johnson is is gonna 656 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: avoid a serious injury, I'm not gonna you know, anything 657 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: can happen. 658 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: Of course with an elbow. 659 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it's still an if until he's until he's pitching again, 660 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: it's still an if. It's just that there's a little 661 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: bit of good news, that's all we're saying. 662 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and even after he's pitching again, it's still an. 663 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: F also true, any any pitcher can break until right. 664 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: So but yeah, if if they get him back in 665 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: relative short order, I mean, he's been I need to 666 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: write something on him because I don't think he gets 667 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: enough attention. He's been unbelievable since the Braves acquired him, 668 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: and he's a he's a fantastic high leverage reliever. So yeah, 669 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 2: that would be huge if if that's a minor injury. 670 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, that's all we know right now is 671 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: that he was getting closer at least was about to 672 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: pitch off of a mound. But even that in itself 673 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: means that he they didn't have to shut him down 674 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: for a long time and kind of dress. Tyler Matzick 675 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: is is shut down right now, which is not out 676 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: of the norm like we speculated it might be. It 677 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: might not be great. I don't We just don't know 678 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: how hurt he is. I know you said the same 679 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: thing with with Sean, but with Matsik, he actually is 680 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: just not pitching right now. They've shut him down, and 681 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: that's normal, but it's also a little bit it's a 682 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: little bit scary. We'll see. But that that contrast, while 683 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: not great for Matzick, is encouraging to some degree on 684 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: Johns because you know, anytime you go on the IL, 685 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, what's going on here? And him 686 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: pitching was throwing a little bit. This suit is good. 687 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the bullpen has been phantam ian Jesse Chavez. 688 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: I don't know how he does it. 689 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: Ship a five array of one five. 690 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't we need to study this man. 691 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: We need to study this man. I don't know how 692 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: he does it, but he he keeps doing it. He 693 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: came in in a tie game the other day in 694 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: the seventh inning and he got a one two three 695 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: inning and the Brays went on to win the game. 696 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: So God bless him. 697 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: In thirteen and thirteen innings this year, he h he 698 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: has like a one point five strike out to walk right, 699 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: It's like not what you want at all. The ripples 700 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: are really ugly history and rate's super high. Like he's 701 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: been lucky so far, like objectively, so you can't really 702 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: argue with that. But again, every time he's in Atlanta, 703 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: he just has the E R and the two's. 704 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. 705 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: It's currently has he has negative war on fangrafts were 706 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: a one point three five era, which is the funniest 707 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. 708 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: It's like impossible, it's like impossible to do. But yeah, 709 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: the bullpen, I mean, the bullpen has been so good. Honestly, 710 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: the whole pitching staff has been fantastic, even with the injuries. 711 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, if they get Pierce Johnson back, you know, 712 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: Alex Alex is always going to add something at the deadline. 713 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: And the bullpen he always does. But yeah, if they 714 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: get Pierced back. You know, Aaron Bummer has been a 715 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: lot better than I think a lot of people think 716 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 2: he's been. Ray Herr looked really good his first outing, 717 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: so bullpen's been fantastic. If they get Johnson back, that's 718 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: still a really a really really strong group. 719 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: It definitely is. That's kind of all we got on 720 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: this Friday evening into Saturday. The Braves had two more 721 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: with the Mets on Saturday and on Sunday. Today's Max 722 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: Free against Chrisian Scott and Christian Scott's second career start. 723 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: I believe after you pitched pretty well earlier. I guess 724 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: it was last week now at this point, and then 725 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: it's Elder versus Severino listed on Sunday in prime time. 726 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: We will not do the older competition now, but they 727 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: are not skipping him. He's in line to pitch on Sunday, 728 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: so we'll keeping on on that one. Steve, anything else 729 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: you want to plug or get off your chest before 730 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: we get out of here, because the weekend is here 731 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: and play more baseball to come. 732 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: No, yeah, beat the Mets. It's always fun to beat 733 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: the Mets. The Braiders did not have a good series 734 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: against the Mets the first round, so that switch. I 735 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: think your may gave up a few runs in that game, 736 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: which is tell you game. 737 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: It became sixteen to four, and that was perhaps the 738 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: most The thing that I will remember the most about 739 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: the era was him pitching in that game. 740 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, which tells you everything you need to know. But yeah, 741 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: good to see the good to see Ronnie hit a 742 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: ball mile, Good to see us and hit a homer. 743 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: Hopefully. 744 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: You know it's it's starting to turn a little bit 745 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: for the top of the lineup, because if it does, 746 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: then you know this team is. This team's already going 747 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 2: to be very good. Listen to the team's get to 748 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: make the playoffs no matter what. But if those guys 749 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: hit the way they should hit, then you know this 750 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: team at least goes to being a lot more fun 751 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: to watch. 752 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: It absolutely does. And as always Slash as often at 753 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: least we'll have a full breakdown of this series at 754 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: the end of the weekend. I will be planning to 755 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: be joined by Scott Coleman and our Sunday, our traditional 756 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: Sunday evening slot, we'll have more from Steven and Sean 757 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: Coleman coming out very soon. Steven Workfocks. 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We to set him with 785 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: him on this Friday evening. We'll see you guys next time. 786 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: The Pacts the Factor as 787 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: New Treasure fa