1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Paul Thomas is a complete dog. I mean, this guy 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: is someone who plays with fury and passion and I 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: think he still got him oh J is incredible. And 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: the fact that he's still a part of the Ravens 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: community and there's still a part of everything that Baltimore 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: stands for. I just love that man, and I mean, 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: obviously it puts everything in perspective. I gotta tell you, 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: the passion is real. I love is real, and I 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: just appreciate that fan base so much. Welcome into the lounge. 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: There is no Make in the lounge this week. It's 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: vacation season. You know what's the weather starts to turn. 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: I always feel like that's where we lose make. You know, 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: that's where once the sun starts coming out and we 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: go through daylight saving this time, that's where make becomes 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, pop in, pop out in here occasionally. So 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: that's is the time of year where we are. So 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Clifton Brown is stepping in from Make this week. Appreciate it. 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Big shoes of film. Make guesses. I don't know, 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: undisclosed the location somewhere in the world, But until he 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: gets back, we're gonna try and hold it down. We're 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: gonna hold down the lounge all right until he gets back. 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: So we have an interview with Peter Schrager we're gonna 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: get into but before we do that, Cliff, I just 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: want to get kind of your big picture take on 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: what the last ten days have looked like for the Ravens. Yeah, 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: it's been a whirlwind. I mean, players coming, players going. 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: We all noticed significant names that have left, you know, Flacco, Sugs, Mosley, Wettle, 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Sarius. It has not been what we call 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: normal off season my opinion, but you know, obviously getting 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: her old time has got to be exacted about that, 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: mark Ingram Justin Bethel, great special teams player, So it's 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: a new transition. And you know with Eric Decaza first 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: off season, General Madden, you're really interesting. So a lot 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: going on. There is a lot going on. So we're 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: going to dive into that a little bit more. But 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: before we do that, I had a chance to catch 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: up with Peter Schregar from Good Morning Football. You can 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: catch him every Monday through Friday at seven am on 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: NFL Network. It's one of the best football shows out there. 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and jump in with my interview. 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: With Peter Schreeger. Well, Peter, thanks so much for joining us. 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. Let's start with kind of the 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: offseason moves. Uh, there's good, there's bad. Let's start with 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: the good news. I'm I'm a glass half all kind 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: of guy here, So let's start with with the good news. 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: And that's the addition of Earl Thomas and mark Ingram. 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah? I like it. I mean, 48 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: do you think about you counter the first couple of 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: days of great to see to that day where they 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: signed both of them? Just taking all right, the Ravens 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: are asleep at the wheel? What's happening to a roster? 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: And then you pick up two of the best guys 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: respectively at the position the last five years. Paul Thomas 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: is a complete dog. I mean, this guy is someone 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: who plays with fury and passion and I think he 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: still got it before he hurt the leg and all 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: that happened last year. He was playing really good football, 58 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: like all pro level football on a defense that isn't 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: with the guys he was used to playing with for 60 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the most part in that back end. And then mark Ingram, 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's the gamer in every sense of the word. 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: That's the guy that Sean Payton swore by. That's a 63 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: guy that helped Alvin Kamara become what he is. And 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: I think he's perfect for this Ravens offense, but also 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: perfect for the Ravens kind of identity and mantra of 66 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: just being tough, smart and almost playing angry. That's what 67 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: you get with these two players. You get a fury 68 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: with both of them, and I think they've both got 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: things to prove to the rest of the league. So 70 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: I love those two editions. The losses, they're gonna be 71 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: tough to withstand as well. Though. You know, you did 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: a segment on Good Morning Football about how not only 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: did you think like Thomas would be great fit for 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens, but that you thought that sort of this 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: would be a great fit for him, Like the city, 76 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the atmosphere, the team, the history. Why do you feel 77 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: that way. I think he's gonna eat it up. I mean, 78 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: he was beloved by those Seattle Seahawks fans until the 79 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: final year of the season where he essentially flipped off 80 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: his sideline and said, you know what, I tried playing 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: with my final year of my contract. There's how it 82 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: ends up. It all work out. He gets paid really 83 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: well by the Ravens. And I'm telling you, Earl Thomas 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: fits everything Baltimore is about. Blue collar, tough guy. Uh. 85 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Fits in the mold of Ed Read or even Ray Lewis, 86 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: where there's leadership values and help talk to talk as 87 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: well as walk the walk. Uh. And I always listening 88 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: everything about it. I mean, if you're a if you're 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: a stud for the Ravens, if you are one of 90 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: those guys, you are a one name guy in that town. 91 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is you don't need 92 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: to say Ray who When you say Ray in Baltimore, 93 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: people know who it is. And it's not Ray Night, 94 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: it is Ray Lewis. You know it's Ed, It's Ed Reid. 95 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: And then I said, Joe is the third one. I 96 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: think Flacco's legacy will be forever felt and he'll be 97 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: beloved in that city as well. And if Earl Thomas 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: can bring this team back to a super Bowl or 99 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: can help that defense get to where they want to go, 100 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: I think he'll be a one name guy as well. 101 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So Ingram, Uh, he was kinda kind of 102 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: flew into the radar a little bit with this signing 103 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: because Earl Thomas I think attracted most of the attention, 104 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: but Ingram has been highly productive the past several years. 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: Do you think he could be a cal for the Ravens. Yeah, 106 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: I do. I think. Look, I don't know if anyone 107 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: these days can get thirty carries a game anymore. That's 108 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: such a rare thing. I don't think se Pon Barkley 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: is gonna see thirty carries a game. But if you 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: can get fifteen to twenty carries from mark Ingram, you're 111 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna get a hundred yards and a touchdown. That's what 112 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: he does. That's what he's proven. And I think leadership 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: in the room. I feel like you put him in 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: the running backs room. He's selfless. Uh, he wants to block. 115 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: He's great in the past protection game. If you watch 116 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: that Rams playoff game, he lays out Dante Fowler twice 117 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: in a way that you would hope you know if 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: you have to do that. The Ravens are so fascinating 119 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: to me this year because I don't know what the 120 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: hell they're gonna look like on offense. And if you 121 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: look at the first three quotas of that playoff game, 122 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: all it took was the Chargers watching the film and 123 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: finding a way to, you know, to to defend Lamar Jackson. 124 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: The cost fits. Then the fourth quote, Lamar Jackson starts 125 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: throwing the ball over the yard and then making a game. 126 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: So that was a weird taste left in my mouth 127 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: with the Ravens offense. But they're all in obviously, and 128 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: I think what you're gonna see is they're gonna draft 129 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: in a way that a lot of teams wouldn't draft. 130 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna draft dope towards whatever this LaMarche accent offense 131 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: is going to be. And that means running the ball 132 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: a lot and also protecting and making sure that he 133 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: has all the time in the world to make decisions. 134 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: What do you think of Lamar? I'm telling on Lamar. 135 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: I loved him coming out of Louisville. I thought it 136 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: might take him a few years before he becomes an 137 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, and then I thought he just what. He 138 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: stole the city and I think he stole the locker room. 139 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: I think I did a game. I did Chargers Ravens 140 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: sidelines the Saturday night game when the Ravens won, and 141 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: I was amazed to hear Harves talk about Lamar as 142 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: a leader. I was amazed to talk to the other 143 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: players on the team and hear how they gravitate towards him, 144 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: if there was a special quality. I don't know if 145 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: he's good at quarterback, and I'm pretty pro Ravens for 146 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: the most part. I'm not sure he can do it 147 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: for sixteen games the way they play. But that's why 148 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: I think this draft is going to be so fascinating 149 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: and to see what Greg Roman can do because they 150 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: might build the team around his skill set so he 151 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have to go and drop back thirty times a 152 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: game and make plays that they expected of Patrick Mahomes 153 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: and maybe a Joe Flacco. They might only have to 154 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: be six to eight passes a game that he has 155 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: to hit, and if the offense is built around him, 156 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: he could be the most dynamic quarterback in the league, 157 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, it is this This officerson is definitely 158 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting you one to see how the 159 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: pieces all come together around him. Because it is I 160 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: agree with you, it's fascinating. So it's the backup quarterback 161 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: right now, Garrett, I don't know what the backup quarterback 162 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: on the roster. There isn't one there literally isn't one. 163 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: So to me, like I was shocked I didn't go 164 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: after a Tyrod Taylor. I was surprised they didn't bringing 165 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: another running quarterback because the truth the matter is, and 166 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: I think I would be criticized for saying this, Lamar 167 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: Jackson is very susceptible to an injury, even though he 168 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: wasn't injured last year. But the way they're gonna play, 169 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback is going to be important. And if 170 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: that backup quarterback can also run the same offense, or 171 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: if that backup quarterback can also add that athleticism, that 172 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: makes it really tough for an opponent to say, all right, 173 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: well here we go. If we just get rid of 174 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, if we find a way to knock him 175 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: out of the game, then we can just deal with 176 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: a typical Mark Sanchez or you know, case Keenom type 177 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: that we know what we're gonna get. But if they 178 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: can add another crand I wouldn't be shocked in the 179 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: draft to one in the third round or the fourth 180 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: round and said, here's the best dual threat quarterback in 181 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: this draft, will Adam to our team, and now you've 182 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: got to deal with both of them because I think 183 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: that's a very, very undervalued position, and he saw last 184 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: year once Lamar came in and totally changed the face 185 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: of the team. Yeah, well r G three still sitting 186 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: out there too, So I I feel like you would 187 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: bring Yeah, I can see that for sure, Yeah I could. 188 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: I could totally see that. Now that the starting quarterback 189 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: markets kind of settled, the backup quarterback market is settling. 190 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: I can see that. Everything I heard he was a 191 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: great teammate and the guys liked him, and that was 192 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: the rip on him when he was in Washington is 193 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: that he didn't get along with the other players and 194 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: he was buddies with the owner. I think he's totally 195 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: Uh was a beloved teammate in that Baltimore locker room 196 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: this year from what I gathered. Yeah, I would. I 197 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: would second that for sure. So what do you make 198 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: of this a f C North Like it's so weird 199 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: because you have guys that have been fixtures for so 200 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: long Antonio Brown gone, lev On Bell gone, Odell Beckham In, 201 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco gone, Terrell Hugs gone on, And what do 202 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: you make of this division as a whole? I would 203 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: just use caution in crowning the Browns, that's all. And 204 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: I've been getting clobbered on that because I have a 205 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: good morning football. I've been this like, like, I guess, 206 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: wet wet damp towel on all the Browns fans because 207 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: they're all claiming their Super Bowl contender, that the seven, 208 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: eight and one last year, and none of those guys 209 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: have any experience playing for winning teams. And to go 210 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the distance, to go from training camp to February and 211 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: be a team that can go the distance, you need 212 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: to have leadership, you need to have experience, and you 213 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: need to avoid any of those blow ups. And I'll 214 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: be honest with the Browns, I can't I can't anticipate 215 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: this happening in the first week, but I would say 216 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: around week five or six, there's gonna be a situation 217 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: where Baker Mayfield is gonna be two for eight in 218 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: the first quarter and its two passes are gonna go 219 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: to Duke Johnson or Nick Chubb, and Odell Beckon and 220 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: Jervis Lander are gonna start talking, and those two guys 221 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: are vocal. Those two guys want the ball, and those 222 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: two guys have a history of being combustible on the sideline. 223 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: I just you know what I'm paying and in fantasy 224 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: football it's real nice and it'll sell a lot of jerseys. 225 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: But I can't crown the Browns just based on acquisitions. 226 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: I need to see it on the field first, and 227 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: I need to see what Freddie Kitchens can do. You know, 228 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and John Hardball have been through it all 229 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: the highs, the lows, everything. I know that they're gonna 230 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: bring it every week. And you know Cincinnati, I think 231 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: they're they're working progress and I don't know the head 232 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: coach as far as what he's gonna do. Um, but 233 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: I can't give this division to anyone other than the 234 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: Ravens or the Steelers until I see it on the field. 235 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: And as far as bad uh an ugly offseason at 236 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: once for the Steelers, I think think I read some 237 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: toxic pieces to that team and they might be just 238 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: fine without him. Then Roelbinsburg is really good, Cam Heywood's 239 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: really good, David DeCastro is really good. There's still a 240 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: lot of talent on that roster, so to me, and 241 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: I'll wear this one if it looks stupid. And seven 242 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: eight months, I'm not giving anything to the Browns just yet. 243 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: I used to cover the Browns, so I've seen kind 244 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: of all all angles of that, uh that storyline. So um, 245 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: some people might not know this, Peter, but you actually 246 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: I go back a few year here. You wrote a 247 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: book with o J. Brigance called Strength of the Champion, 248 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: which is a fantastic book and walks through o J's life. 249 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: People know o J story here very well. It's an 250 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: inspiring book. Like, what what did you take away from 251 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: working with o J on that book? I mean, I 252 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: can't underestimate the forget Forget the book. I had an 253 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: experience of spending like four or five months working with 254 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: OJ and why Chandra, and they were just the most 255 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: amazing people in that book came out probably right for 256 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, so that was probably five years ago. 257 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: And o J, just to be completely clear with the 258 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: a l S diagnosis, was had already. You know, it's 259 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: longer than people thought you would and here we are 260 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: five years later. He's still know it, like o J 261 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: is incredible. And the fact that he's still a part 262 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: of the Ravens community and there's still a part of 263 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: everything that Baltimore stands for. I just love that man, 264 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: and I mean, obviously it puts everything in perspective. When 265 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: you talked to o J for ten minutes out of 266 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: your day, or you send an email to o J 267 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: and response within five minutes, We've kept in touch. He's 268 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful man, and I mean I almost selfishly 269 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: email him more than I probably should, just so I 270 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: can get a piece of him, because he just offers 271 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: so much light and inspiration. And if you don't know 272 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: o J story and you listen to this, I'm not 273 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: encouraging you to buy the book. I would just say 274 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: google o jaber Gains and read up on him, because 275 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: he's just an amazing guy. You mentioned the email thing. 276 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: It's so cool because when you get that email, you 277 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: know that he typed it with his eyes. Like that's 278 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: the craziest thing. Whenever I get an email from him, 279 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know that he did this with his eyes, 280 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: and it's, uh, you kind of cherished that for sure. 281 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a quick story with OJ, so you know, 282 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl happens, and I saw a really good 283 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: piece that they did on ESPN with Obergaintz, and I 284 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: approached him and his wife and said, I would love 285 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: to write your story. I think it's unbelievable. And I 286 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: had a successful book before that with Victor Cruz from 287 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: the Giants is right to their Super Bowl win, And 288 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: the publisher said, if you've got a compelling story, come 289 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: to us with its kind of like my one, my 290 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: one pitch I could make and you know, pick anyone 291 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: you want. I was like, this, O Jaber gets incredible. 292 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: So I went to the publisher and said, okay, well 293 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: we need we need like a I guess two thousand 294 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: word kind of summary of what the book is about. 295 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: So O j and I were talking over email, and 296 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: I spoke with Chandre Bunch and we said, let's, uh, 297 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: let's put together this thing. Oh Jay, here's how we're 298 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm gonna send you about ten questions 299 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: over email, simple ones. You know, who are your inspirations 300 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: growing up, what are your memories of playing for the 301 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Ravens Super Bowl team? All this stuff, and uh, you know, 302 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: they said, of course we'll get back to you with that, 303 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: and I said, great. Based on what we get from that, 304 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: I can kind of write a little summary what this 305 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: book is going to be, and I can kind of 306 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: get a feeling for how this communication is gonna work 307 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: because o J can't speak, He can only use his 308 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: eyes to type. So one day goes by no response, 309 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: two day goes by no response, three days go by 310 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: no response, five days go by no response from o J. 311 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, this is this is probably 312 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: a dead end here. This is gonna be really difficult. 313 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: How do you type a book with your eyes? And 314 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: how do I even? All right? So I tell a 315 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: publisher I'm not sure how this is gonna go. He 316 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: goes all right. As I say that, an email comes 317 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: through and it was about ten thousand words of responses 318 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: to the questions, each one a thousand words, each one 319 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: just riddled with inspiration, each one with great stories, laugh 320 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: out loud stories about ray Lewis like, and I was like, 321 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: all right away we go. That's kind of that's kind 322 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: of my my entire experience with OJ. It's, you know, 323 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: it's just everything you're wanting more. And that guy, God 324 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: bless him, he's an unbelievable man. Yeah, I totally agree. 325 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: I'll let you out of here on this one, Peter. Someone. 326 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: One of the things I always love is are your 327 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: monologues about Baltimore. You've done a couple you know, I 328 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: think about you did want right around the playoff game 329 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: las year at the end of the season, and uh, 330 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I love him on Good Morning Football. So I'm just curious, like, 331 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: what is it about the city and the fans and 332 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: the stadium and like the game day experience that stands 333 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: out to you and that you love so much. Yeah, 334 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, I had no connection with the Baltimore Ravens 335 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: at all. And then in two thousand and seven, I 336 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: met a woman in New York uh in a bar, 337 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: and uh we hit it off and she ended up 338 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: being my wife and my life is from Pikesville, Maryland, 339 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: and her family our season ticket holders to the Baltimore 340 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: Ravens since their first inaugural season to sit in Section 341 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: one fifty one. They've got more tickets. They have never 342 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: missed a home game, And I brought in like I 343 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: kind of just was like, all right, I've covered the 344 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: NFL for ten years, what are these guys gonna have that? 345 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, the passion is real, the 346 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: love is real, and I just appreciate that fan base 347 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: so much and the way they run their organization. In 348 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: that building, You're in the castle every day, you know, 349 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: it's second to none, and I just appreciate it. And 350 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: I you know, I was. I've been on the highs 351 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: and lows with a lot of it as as uh 352 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: married to a fan, and then also covering it as 353 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: a journalist. But I have to keep my my biases 354 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: in my objectivity. But I'll tell you I saw it 355 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: first hand through the eyes of people who live and 356 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: die with the Baltimore Ravens, and there's a real passion there. 357 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, I can't wait to look forward to 358 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: your next monologue. You know, whenever they come the first time. 359 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: First time, everyone's throwing stones because there's no one in 360 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: middle linebacker in a team ran for twittered yards and 361 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: they should have paid t J. I'll come up with 362 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: the model. That's awesome. If you're always gonna catch up. 363 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the time, and I look forward 364 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: talking to you against him, all right, Thanks funny, all right, 365 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: So thanks to Peter. UH really appreciated time with him. 366 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: He is Uh, as you just said, UH, somebody that 367 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: loves kind of the Baltimore vibe. And I love his 368 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: diet drives about the Ravens, and I love his perspective, 369 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: and I also love Good morning football. So it's a 370 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: great show. Um. So Cliff, Um, I want to talk 371 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: with you a little bit before we before we wrap 372 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: up today, just about looking ahead. First of all, next 373 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: week NFL owners meetings. Uh, those are gonna be in Arizona. 374 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: We're making fun of make for escaping to the sun 375 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: your next man. All right, we'll see how much so 376 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: many stories. You're right you have less sign has been 377 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: on the course. Let see a swinger too out in Arizona. 378 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Sunny Arizona shouldn't be too bad at Um. What's kind 379 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: of the big storylines you're me following next week? Well, 380 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean from a league life perspective, I think rule changes, 381 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: if they're any, are going to be big. Um. You 382 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: know the controversy with the ram Saints. People still talking 383 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: about that. One of the league's gonna make any changes 384 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: about the way some of these controversial calls are reviewed 385 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: or not reviewed. So that will be one thing on 386 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: that front. I always wonder like they have that coaching breakfast, 387 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: so all the coaches are out there. They have about 388 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: an hour available of availability. And John Harball has made 389 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: a point over some recent owners meetings where he's kind 390 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: of attracted a crowd of some national writers and he's 391 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: picked a topic. Sometimes the spin is to replay, but 392 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: he is very cluar into the rules, and I'm curious 393 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: if this will be an option, an opportunity for him 394 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: to make his feelings known. Yeah, if he wants to 395 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: do that, I'm sure he will. And he won't be 396 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: the only coach though. I mean, that game brought a 397 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: lot of attention, not just from the Saints and Rams, 398 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: but it's just it's just a league wide problem in 399 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: the game and Wharton deciding who's going to the Super 400 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: Bowl fro NFC a call may have really in this 401 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: case deside the game. So I'm interested to see what 402 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: John says about it, what other coaches say. And then 403 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: there's been so much happening around the league, Like you know, 404 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, the first chance you hear from him really 405 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: since he lost Lady, I'm Bell and you know Brown 406 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: and all that's going on in the locker room. Uh, 407 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: you know other coaches Cleveland now stick with the NHC, North, 408 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens, you know, coaching Odell Beckham, the town, the 409 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: expectations with the Brown. So I think in this atmosphere 410 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: always liked it because coaches are more relaxed. Everybody's undefeated, 411 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: there's not a game plan they're worried about, so you 412 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: get some more candid comments. I think that you do 413 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: sometimes during the season, so it should be fun. Yeah, 414 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: the free kitting thing is interesting in the Browns thing 415 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: in general. I mean it's Peter was just talking about 416 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: in his interview. He's not ready to crown him just yet, 417 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see how they kind of 418 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: handled the expectation piece of this whole equation. I don't 419 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: think that's overblown. When you expected to win, it adds 420 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: a different pressure, um, a different mindset the teams have 421 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: when they play. You think about it the Browns. I mean, 422 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: let's face the people who look at them. They're on 423 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: the schedule. Okay, that's a win. Now you go to Cleveland, 424 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: you're expecting a tough game. You're thinking they can beat you. 425 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: You're up for them. That's something Cleveland has experienced in 426 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: a long time. And they have a lot of young players. 427 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this will be Baker Mayfield second year. We 428 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: know he has a lot of talent, but we also 429 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: know many players, even great players. The adjustment from first 430 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: year the second year when people have seen you and 431 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: make adjustments to you, it can be difficult times sometimes 432 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: to counteract that. So it's really gonna be interesting season. 433 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: And then when you're throwing kitchens as the first year 434 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: head coach, that's another dynamic. It's only gonna be interesting. Well, 435 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: the reverse of it's true too. There's the component of 436 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: like how opposing teams will now feel going into the Browns. 437 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Then there's also the feeling of how the Browns will 438 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: approach each game knowing that now the expectation is that 439 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna win like they I've I've covered on and 440 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: I've been there. I'm a fan of the Browns. I 441 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: like I know that a lot of times the feeling 442 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: going into games is that they're not going to win. 443 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: And so now the expectation is going to be from 444 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: the start that right now they're the favorites to win 445 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: the n f C North, So the pressure is gonna 446 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: be on them to win the f C North and 447 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: they start owing to all sudden healthy, how do things go, 448 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: how does that locker room respond, how do the veterans 449 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: approach things that? That is like the questions that I 450 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: have about that team. Now we have plenty of time 451 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: to talk about the division. Um, something that's closer is 452 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: the draft, and we still have plenty of time to 453 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: talk about that. But based on what the Ravens have 454 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: done in free agency, I think it'll be really interesting 455 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: to see what their approach is on draft weekend because 456 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: to me, at the start of the off season, the 457 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: main needs were wide receiver. Uh that was probably the 458 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: top of list. Running back, which they've addressed. I felt 459 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: like offensive line could be improved. The interior that offensive 460 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: and upgraded haven't touched it there, so maybe that's an 461 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: option early receiver, certainly, but now you have these holes 462 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: on defense, like pass rusher is suddenly maybe the biggest 463 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: thing on the team when you lose the Darius interrel sucks, right, 464 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean the pass rush certainly is in the wide receiver, 465 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: and you mentioned off of the line. One thing is 466 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: interesting to me is, Okay, I think everyone agrees that 467 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: they it wouldn't be a shock to see them and 468 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: draft the wide receiver at some point, if not the 469 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: first round. But there's so many different wide receivers and 470 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: so many that did well to combine. If they do 471 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: take a live receiver, which one is gonna be. I mean, 472 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm just going through Mark Dress. I've seen five different 473 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers mocked to the Ravens at the number. That's 474 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, Paris Campbell, Yes, Markis Brown, No, A J. Brown? 475 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: A J. Brown? Okay, a J. Brown. There's also Marquis 476 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Brown who have seen chatter around him in Oklahoma, right, 477 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: and who were missing. There's another big guy, I think 478 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: possession of receiver. Um, there were five different ones. Five 479 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: so I'm like, okay, which one like? And how much 480 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: discussion is going on amongst the Ravens staff asked to 481 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: which one fits us the best? And if one of 482 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: them or three of those guys are there, do they 483 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: pick one or do they go for a pass rusher? 484 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: Or you still haven't even though they grab Mark Ingram. 485 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: What if Josh Jacobs is there? I mean, what if 486 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: you could have Jacobs and Ingram and Gus Right, you're 487 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: talking about all in on the running game, that's all in. 488 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: So it's very interesting to me what they might do. 489 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: And even though they've made some moves you think, okay, 490 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: now they're gonna do this, you still don't know right 491 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: to me, Like, the question is what's the biggest need 492 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: at this point because I look at it and I 493 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: feel like, now the biggest overall need on the team 494 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: is pass rusher. Like that, with the loss of Songs 495 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: and Zadarius, that's fifteen and a half sacks that I've 496 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: walked out the door. You've got Matt Jude on. But say, yeah, 497 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: he's getting double team. Do you feel confident that Tias 498 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: Bowser and Tim Williams can step in and be the 499 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: number two pass rusher? Now, maybe they Ravens still go 500 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: out there and get a veteran Justin Houston has been 501 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: all this talk about him externally. Is he somebody that 502 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens have their eye on? Would he? What kind 503 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: of deal is he looking for? I think that will 504 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: be an interesting one. Um, but I still think pass 505 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: rusher is probably the biggest need. But you do want 506 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: to get some offensive playmakers to put around the more 507 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: and Ingram is that, But you still are looking for 508 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: a receiver like It's that's the That's to me is 509 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: the biggest question. I think overall wide receiver that's not 510 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: necessarily as big of a need as it would be 511 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: compared to other teams because of the style that the 512 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: Ravens are going to play, where they're so dependent on 513 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: the run game. But even with that said, you want 514 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: to have premier player wide receiver. I think it would 515 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: be doing a disservice to Lamar if you just said, well, 516 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball so much, we don't need 517 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: to put good receivers on the team. I agree, So 518 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna try and address both between the 519 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: pass rusher and ye receiver. Now, the draft is deep 520 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: at both of those positions, so there's a good year 521 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: to get a pass rusher, there's a good year to 522 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: get a wide receiver. I do think also that played 523 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: into the passer part why the secondary is so important, 524 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: because that secondary looks great and worst case scenario, if 525 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: they can't get as much pressure on quarterbacks as they like, 526 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: they should at least be able to cover well, and 527 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: they that that will help the pass rush. But I 528 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: agree with you. I mean, it's a big year for 529 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: both Williams and Bowser. They need at least one of 530 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: those guys to start becoming the impact pass rusher that 531 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: they thought they were getting when they drafted them. Because, 532 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Juno Judo has come on well but 533 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: now missing as the Darius and Sugs. Yeah, if you 534 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: decide that you wanna double teams Judo and as risk 535 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: that if someone else will heard you. I mean, that's 536 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: that's kind of like the Miller treatment, only only elite 537 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: pass rudders get that treatment, and a lot of guys, 538 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, can't really handle that. So I think that, Yeah, 539 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens do need and will I think get a 540 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: pass rusher, whether it's a veteran or in a draft. 541 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: They will add at least one our receiver. What is 542 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: a veteran a draft? But yeah, they need an impact 543 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: person I think who's not on the roster yet at 544 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: both of those spots. All right, well, this is something 545 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: we'll spend a lot of time discussing. I hope you 546 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: enjoy Arizona, enjoy the course. Yeah, I'll make it. I'll 547 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: make it to the meetings and something you'll solve meetings. 548 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: We look forward to that. You can follow all of 549 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: Cliss covers throughout next week and make will be back 550 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: some point between now and the draft, So look forward 551 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: to him getting back whenever. That is. Thanks for listening 552 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: to guys. As always, you can email the show at 553 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: the Lounge at Ravens on NFL dot net and that's 554 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: it for us and we will be back with you 555 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: next week. Principates ps psipens the bass pass Bassis pas 556 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: pens abuts the bass Bass Basta