Speaker 1: And That's what you Really Missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Podcast Welcome to and That's what You Really Missed podcast
Speaker 1: Guilty Pleasures Guilty Pleasures.
Speaker 2: This originally aired on March twenty first, twenty thirteen. This
Speaker 2: is episode seventeen of season four.
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 2: Deep like in the home stretch here of season four, right.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe it.
Speaker 2: Very strange and when we were going into this season,
Speaker 2: we were a little concerned about if it was good
Speaker 2: or not, and people were saying it wasn't great. How
Speaker 2: do you feel thus far?
Speaker 1: I feel great, aside from like a few episodes, Feud
Speaker 1: being one of them, Like no, and Feud wasn't even that.
Speaker 1: They're just they're more filler. There's stuff that happens, of course,
Speaker 1: but they're more filler transitions. I feel really solid about
Speaker 1: this season. It's not it's definitely not season three, but
Speaker 1: it is solid in my opinion. Really good music, great memories,
Speaker 1: fun storylines. New York is like popping off. I'm just
Speaker 1: here for it, I really am it.
Speaker 2: Does do you feel it does feel like a bit
Speaker 2: of a different show, Like it feels a little different, Yes,
Speaker 2: but I like what it is yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't mind some of the more filler episodes, Like
Speaker 2: I'm just sort of enjoying the absurd teen show of
Speaker 2: it all agreed, like, it's very consistent. It doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like it doesn't feel like we're completely off base. It
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it completely lost the plot, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, hasn't jumped a shark. It does feel different,
Speaker 2: but you know, it's season four of a show, so
Speaker 2: I think that happens. I feel like the growing pains
Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it feels very consistent
Speaker 2: with what happens on other shows. I think in my head,
Speaker 2: I remember it being a lot different, and I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it again.
Speaker 1: Saying yeah. I also, I feel like we got a
Speaker 1: lot of like it because they graduated and everybody's off
Speaker 1: to different places and the band isn't all together like
Speaker 1: it used to be. I do feel like we get
Speaker 1: really good nuggets of everybody being together still too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I do. I do miss everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I definitely want some more Mercedes and Mike and just
Speaker 2: everybody back. But the new kids I'm loving. And I
Speaker 2: obviously we're biased. I can't tell I cannot separate from
Speaker 2: how I feel about them personally, So there's no way
Speaker 2: for me to objectively tell you how I feel. But
Speaker 2: how it feels watching is that I'm fully in. But
Speaker 2: I do think we talked about earlier in the season
Speaker 2: they were trying to you know, we could feel them
Speaker 2: trying to get the new kids to stick.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely.
Speaker 2: I just think everyone's so good. I think like Becca
Speaker 2: and Melissa and Alex and Blake and Jacob and everyone's
Speaker 2: just been the.
Speaker 1: More opportunity to give them, the more they shine. That's
Speaker 1: a thing like getting those episodes where it's just McKinley
Speaker 1: based really helps said that, you know, set the tone
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. Absolutely, So this is
Speaker 1: structured by our dear friend Eric Stolts wonderful.
Speaker 2: Which makes sense because like last episode, there are also
Speaker 2: some editing choices and this episode and the musical numbers
Speaker 2: specifically where we said Baker could get away with it
Speaker 2: because he was like the head of editing. Stilts is
Speaker 2: also probably the person outside of Ryan or Brad who's
Speaker 2: directed the most yes and has that relationship and had
Speaker 2: some really cool editing choices and the musical numbers in
Speaker 2: this episode.
Speaker 1: I think totally he was. This was a good one
Speaker 1: for him. I think this episode. This was written by
Speaker 1: Russell Friend and Garrett Learner, and there's an array of songs.
Speaker 2: So much music. It feels like there's so much music,
Speaker 2: so many songs. This episode also felt really long, very long.
Speaker 2: I feel like in these this episode, in the two prior,
Speaker 2: there's so much music. There's not a lot of story,
Speaker 2: but like a lot of great performances. Yes, and we're
Speaker 2: just the music is driving here, Yes, exactly. The music
Speaker 2: is definitely driving. Wake Me Up Before you Go Go
Speaker 2: performed by New Directions, Goba Cabana performed by Sam.
Speaker 1: Against All Odds, Take a Look at Me Now performed by.
Speaker 2: Blaine, Want to Be by the New directions, Girls So.
Speaker 1: Good, My Prerogative perform by Jake.
Speaker 2: Creep performed by Rachel and Brody.
Speaker 1: And Mama Mia by Abba performed by Kurt Rachel Santana.
Speaker 2: In the New Directions About your Favorite, I Have Stuff
Speaker 2: to Say So, Sam was originally going to sing I
Speaker 2: Knew You Were Trouble, but the song later changed at
Speaker 2: Copacabana because in the promo for the episode, Sam told
Speaker 2: Blaine that he loves Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were supposed to do Taylor and for some
Speaker 1: reason that didn't work out.
Speaker 2: There must have been some clearance issue at the time.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is the second episode in a row where
Speaker 1: Blaine has had a part in setting the weekly assignment.
Speaker 2: And Blaine is really all over the place, like he
Speaker 2: is singing more than everybody. He is stepping up. They're
Speaker 2: really leaning on Darren here.
Speaker 1: This yes, these few episodes.
Speaker 2: Against all odds, is the second song that Darren sing
Speaker 2: live on set. You'll remember Teenage Dream and the breakup
Speaker 2: So good.
Speaker 1: This is the first episode to not feature any of
Speaker 1: the major adult cast, so noel Ma, Sue be Spikings,
Speaker 1: Carolyn Burt.
Speaker 2: The kids. It's Kid's House, Kids Kiss. This episode marks
Speaker 2: the last appearance of Brody in the series.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was fast.
Speaker 2: He's been in a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he has to do it wild though just
Speaker 1: one season. The handwriting of guilty pleasures on the whiteboard
Speaker 1: in the choir room changes multiple times.
Speaker 2: Don't get Cord to do it right. Back in the
Speaker 2: substitute Will tells Holly that she will be the substitute
Speaker 2: teacher if he is sick. He was out sick, but
Speaker 2: the glee club was canceled for the week. She was
Speaker 2: probably filming Iron Man yeah or Avengers movie.
Speaker 1: No. Seriously, Jake states that they do Rihanna songs all
Speaker 1: the time in class. However, the last Rihanna song was
Speaker 1: We Found Love in Yes or No, from the previous
Speaker 1: season when Jake was not a member of the club.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you really think they're like passing around? Here
Speaker 2: are songs we've done as a New Clean Club member.
Speaker 2: You should know our entire history. No, definitely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: So the members of New Directions perform songs that they're
Speaker 2: ordinarily too embarrassed to admit they love. That's the episode kids.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that was shocking. Okay, Yeah, well they didn't
Speaker 1: even find it.
Speaker 2: I mean there's there's two things happening. There's really I mean,
Speaker 2: there's mister she was outsick, so Sama Kid's house. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I decide to give us assignment, and we all do
Speaker 2: our guilty pleasures. That's basically it. And through that we
Speaker 2: also have some guilty admissions and personal lives. And then
Speaker 2: you have the New York of it all, where the
Speaker 2: thing going on is Santana's trying not to tell Rachel
Speaker 2: the real reason why Brody mysteriously broke up with her,
Speaker 2: and Kurt is in on it and he's trying to
Speaker 2: keep Santana from doing it. Let's start there, because this
Speaker 2: bathroom scene is so satisfying to me, where Rachel's in
Speaker 2: the shower, Kurt is getting ready in the mirror, and
Speaker 2: Santana is like, I need more room in here, and
Speaker 2: then is blackmailing Kurt be like, I will tell Rachel
Speaker 2: what really happened if you don't clear out some room
Speaker 2: for me for these products continuing. Three of them are
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: She is paying to stay there now. She does deserve
Speaker 1: some space.
Speaker 2: She got a job, she got a Chung coyote ugly.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I cannot with that. The quote about
Speaker 2: I hope my career is better than the girls that
Speaker 2: are in that movie.
Speaker 1: Brutal, brutal, love that movie though.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Kurt is in class at YadA and the teacher's
Speaker 1: assignment is similar to the glee clubs somehow magically in
Speaker 1: kind of revealing your most vulnerable childhood memories or things.
Speaker 1: And so the one is the girl before him is
Speaker 1: going is doing potty training, right. But Kurt, then we
Speaker 1: find is sleeping with his boyfriend pillow, which like, at
Speaker 1: the time, this was a real thing. Oh yeah, Like
Speaker 1: the boyfriend pillow was coming up in the world. A
Speaker 1: lot of people have them, like infomercial Central. Yes, it
Speaker 1: is kind of funny, but.
Speaker 2: I loved it. It felt like a very friend's storyline.
Speaker 2: This whole boyfriend pillow thing.
Speaker 1: Totally the boyfriend arm pillow thing. Also Bruce is Carl
Speaker 1: Kurt named it or whatever, Bruce or whoever gave him
Speaker 1: the name. He also said that he Ambien purchased this online,
Speaker 1: And I feel like that was real to Chris because
Speaker 1: there was a lot of people on our set who
Speaker 1: were ambient users that would have like crazy in nighttime
Speaker 1: ambient stories, So I feel like that was also pulled
Speaker 1: from life.
Speaker 2: I mean, Chris was infamous for his ambient purchases, the
Speaker 2: amount of things that would show up at his house
Speaker 2: and he had no recollection ordering. Oh yeah, so good, wild,
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: And Rachel.
Speaker 2: Is not totally convinced that she's not going to get
Speaker 2: back together with Brody, right, and Santana finally has had
Speaker 2: it and it's like, no, listen, it actually is over
Speaker 2: and here's why. And Rachel looks like Kurt and she's like,
Speaker 2: did you know too? And yes, he knew, and so
Speaker 2: she promptly goes to Niada handsome some money and I
Speaker 2: like to have dinner with you? Is is how much it costs? Great? Yeah,
Speaker 2: she finds out the whole thing that Finn showed up
Speaker 2: and they have this honest heart to heart about like
Speaker 2: you're not over Finn, Like there's this whole other thing
Speaker 2: that you weren't telling me about. She's there, Yeah, an
Speaker 2: adult conversation And what was surprise to me? Through all this?
Speaker 2: I just kept feeling like, I feel like the normal
Speaker 2: drama TV show thing to do would have Rachel be
Speaker 2: mad at Santana for having gone behind her back, having
Speaker 2: involved Finn, you know, like actually being pissed, like you
Speaker 2: messed in my business? Right, what are you doing? And
Speaker 2: she doesn't do that. She defied my expectations. The writers did,
Speaker 2: being like, I really appreciate you doing that, and I
Speaker 2: loved to see it to be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I agree with you. I think it
Speaker 1: could have gone that way because when Finn came out
Speaker 1: of the bathroom in the last episode, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: how does Rachel want to feel about this? I want
Speaker 1: her to feel like, oh my night in shining armor
Speaker 1: came to rescue me. But it's not always how it
Speaker 1: goes on our show. So you're right. It surprised me
Speaker 1: as well. And I like that they're getting along. They
Speaker 1: can't always be fighting these guys in that house.
Speaker 2: And she ended up being right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, she was right. So Rachel is not stirring
Speaker 1: the pod any anymore. So, And we've said it once,
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Naya usually was always right. Was
Speaker 1: she the most.
Speaker 2: Tactful, No about the ways in which she would bring
Speaker 2: these things up. No, but she usually was right and
Speaker 2: could like just sniff it out. It was wild.
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she could really do it on all levels, personally, professionally,
Speaker 2: like she should just turn off that witchiness. Yeah, she
Speaker 2: knew the little boyfriend pillow thing at the end too.
Speaker 1: And Kurt. That's funny though, when Kurt gets.
Speaker 2: Gets Santana a girl a girl boyfriend pillow with.
Speaker 1: The hand, it's so funny, it's so good. Oh but okay,
Speaker 1: So Rachel goes and gives money to Brody and they
Speaker 1: have this very dull conversation but then they break up
Speaker 1: and the like scene ever and they break into creep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love creep. I love this song. You do, I
Speaker 1: do do not like this song.
Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings about this song. I love Radiohead.
Speaker 2: This is probably my least favorite Radiohead single. Like, there's
Speaker 2: something about when people sing this song, like I think too.
Speaker 2: I think it's a hard song to cover because of
Speaker 2: what it's talking about. I feel like I started to
Speaker 2: laugh a little bit, like they're singing creep and like
Speaker 2: they're trying to make Brody seem creepy or something. It
Speaker 2: felt like an odd choice, interesting, and I liked it.
Speaker 2: I felt like it was a little too pretty.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't think. I mean it was pretty, but
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: They both sounded amazing, that's the thing. Like, I'm conflicted.
Speaker 1: I liked the montage of them running past each other
Speaker 1: and the whole, like the split montage like, but when
Speaker 1: they came together, just staying on the stage and black,
Speaker 1: it felt a little too new directions to me again,
Speaker 1: like we were going backwards in time.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, it looked like they used the auditorium stage
Speaker 2: and just put different fronts on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little too obvious. Yeah, yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: I did like moment. I like elements of the actual performance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like the cover and I liked the song. I liked
Speaker 2: the cover.
Speaker 1: I liked it. I can't believe this is Brody's last
Speaker 1: song already, this is his goodbye song. You better go
Speaker 1: out like that. Yeah, you know, from them, he's really been,
Speaker 1: you know, stepping it up. They've given him a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff to do and it's been great. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: for sure, but it feels like it's time. It's time.
Speaker 1: It's time.
Speaker 2: We almos got a full season.
Speaker 1: He did, and Finn's come to the rescue. He's calling
Speaker 1: him a future wife, like we're gonna need fit and
Speaker 1: something in Rachel. It just feels like everyone's going to
Speaker 1: get back together with their people, right, Yes, totally totally.
Speaker 2: Kurt sort of dismissed Adam. Where's Adam?
Speaker 1: Setna and Brittany though I'm not sure, Like, yes, we
Speaker 1: know what's happening, but like right now, it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like that. It feels like they're both on their own paths.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I appreciate. Yeah, same, Yeah, it feels like
Speaker 2: they're doing like more of their journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Kurt and Blaine are sure.
Speaker 2: Very connected, and Rachel and Finn are like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, always we need that, we need that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so we're in We're in McKinley and mister was
Speaker 1: out sick, so there's no Holly Holiday, and Sam and
Speaker 1: Blaine decide more blam, they're gonna do the Glee Club.
Speaker 1: They're gonna hold Glee Club, even though Tina says it's
Speaker 1: canceled with guilty pleasures for the week. Tina coming into
Speaker 1: that scene and Sam making fun of her and her
Speaker 1: saying that was a phase was actually it made me laugh.
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 1: And she's just getting more annoyed and more annoyed, which
Speaker 1: is funny to me, Like she's so annoyed at this point.
Speaker 1: But this I liked playing a lot. This part of
Speaker 1: Tina was like really fun for me. So we find
Speaker 1: out that Sam has a guilty pleasure that he's going
Speaker 1: to tell Blaine about. And which is the macaroni art.
Speaker 1: Oh well, the first one is macaroni ar. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love this. I love this, I love this. I
Speaker 1: think it's so funny. I remember when they shot this
Speaker 1: and being so amazed at the macaroni.
Speaker 2: Art, and the macaroni art was like hanging around set
Speaker 2: afterwards and before and we'd see it and it was
Speaker 2: so weird but brilliant, so funny. And my favorite thing
Speaker 2: is like when Darren sees or Blaine sees Kurt, like
Speaker 2: the macar really captures they're so good together.
Speaker 1: They are, and it's just ridiculous. I feel like that
Speaker 1: storyline came from like Ian Brennan seeing Macaroni art somewhere
Speaker 1: being like, we have to put this in.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so absurd that I really did together. It
Speaker 2: seems really sweet too, because it gives them money. Like, look,
Speaker 2: I saw you stealing the pasta. I know your dad's
Speaker 2: going through a rough time. And he's like, no, dog,
Speaker 2: I'm just a salant.
Speaker 1: Sam. This is the line he says to Tina. Hey,
Speaker 1: just curious. You can go to hers, go over to
Speaker 1: his house and straddle and while he's passed out and
Speaker 1: rubs some ointment on his chest.
Speaker 2: And the enjoyment on his face as he was saying
Speaker 2: that was so good. I'm glad they're addressing it too.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and in a joking manner, because we have to.
Speaker 1: We have to. And so Blaine. Sam's asking Blaine to
Speaker 1: reveal his guilty pleasure, he avoids it because his guilty
Speaker 1: pleasure is him yeah, and so he he dodges the
Speaker 1: question for now, Well for now. Yeah, the Coba Kabana
Speaker 1: is crazy.
Speaker 2: I love it so much. Eric was the perfect director
Speaker 2: for this because he captured there's all these little things
Speaker 2: that happened with everybody, and it's I just enjoyed it
Speaker 2: so much because it felt so real in terms of
Speaker 2: like Kid's House, we're doing what we want. We choreograph
Speaker 2: this ourselves against Yes, definitely, and Chord Chord doing.
Speaker 1: This number is something else, sensational writing truly, truly, he's
Speaker 1: a fanelo and then everybody admits, I don't Berry, it's
Speaker 1: so silly, it's so dumb. It is, it's really dumb,
Speaker 1: but it's so cute. Nobody can pull that off like
Speaker 1: Cord No, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And I know Taylor Swipt would have been incredible, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: but but this it just works. This is comedy gold.
Speaker 1: It just works.
Speaker 2: And I love how when he like comes out to
Speaker 2: Blaine as a Barry Manilow fan, Blaine's like, you have
Speaker 2: to share this with everyone, and it's also like set
Speaker 2: up that it's like he's coming out as gay. Yes,
Speaker 2: it feels like that, and Blaine's getting excited that it's like,
Speaker 2: what's going to happen? And it's happening in the boys
Speaker 2: locker room and he's like, I have something to tell you.
Speaker 2: I thought that was very funny.
Speaker 1: So Blaine does this number, this insane live performance. Of course,
Speaker 1: he's amazing. He does this. And I listened to this
Speaker 1: the other day. Actually, I was listening to Season four
Speaker 1: music and I kind of skipped ahead. I cheated. I forgot.
Speaker 1: He sings this, and he sounds so good on it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he what.
Speaker 2: I love how sort of like when he's sang live
Speaker 2: last time. By the end of the song, it makes
Speaker 2: everyone so uncomfortable, Yes, because it gets so oddly intense, Yes,
Speaker 2: which is the desired effect. And it's works and it's
Speaker 2: really funny. And then everybody knows what's going on and
Speaker 2: he totally lies about who that song was about, and
Speaker 2: like all the kids would look at each other like, wow,
Speaker 2: well you see what's happening here. I think we shot
Speaker 2: that really late at night. I everyone looks very tired,
Speaker 2: everyone napping. I thought I had the exact same feeling
Speaker 2: watching this, like everyone looks a little sleepy, a little sleepy.
Speaker 2: And this is when we were downing red bulls.
Speaker 1: Red bulls this night, this night, so Baca, Jacob, Kevin
Speaker 1: and I were downing red bulls and I like, I
Speaker 1: think we each had three or four by the end
Speaker 1: of the night.
Speaker 2: Oh lost my mind.
Speaker 1: Not okay, it's not okay when a cat.
Speaker 2: Gets the zoomies. We weren't even.
Speaker 1: A sip anymore. It's so bad. But we were losing
Speaker 1: our minds. And this is why I think I have
Speaker 1: very little memory of like the actual performance versus us
Speaker 1: acting crazy on the other side of the campus. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: but Blaine and Sam of this really nice ste at
Speaker 1: the end where SAMs like, you do you want to
Speaker 1: tell me? Because I know it's me, which is really sweet.
Speaker 2: I have to say, yes, you know. We talked about
Speaker 2: the show being like a bridge show, where you know
Speaker 2: it is the last time things were addressed in certain ways,
Speaker 2: it's the first time things were addressed in certain ways.
Speaker 2: And having this really charming jock straight character talked to
Speaker 2: his gay male best friend like this, which I'm mature,
Speaker 2: was really profound in a number of ways, and I
Speaker 2: think Chord did a wonderful job with this, and also
Speaker 2: is how Cord is in real life and straightforward and
Speaker 2: loves everybody and yeah, like, let's just appreciate it. That
Speaker 2: scene me too, and it just gets it out of
Speaker 2: the way, right, It's like, let's let's address the elephant
Speaker 2: in the room.
Speaker 1: Let's just do it. I really appreciated that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing happening is Bondu for two, where
Speaker 2: Pretty is like, you're a bitch, nobody likes you. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make fun of your face real quick. I'm on
Speaker 2: Fondu for too, and set the record straight. Their chemistry
Speaker 2: and Fondu for two. This is maybe my favorite Fondu
Speaker 2: for two yet because they're both sort of awful to
Speaker 2: each other, but it works in this really endearing, charming way. Again,
Speaker 2: they're telling truths but neither of them are sensitive and
Speaker 2: they're like, well, yeah, you're right, I am about right,
Speaker 2: so okay, what of it? And then I love that
Speaker 2: Tina's w on YouTube live streaming Vondue for two and
Speaker 2: then as furious when Kitty does not admit what her
Speaker 2: guilty pleasure is and I don't think this is controversial,
Speaker 2: Spice girls. Who would judge you for listening to Spice Girls?
Speaker 1: My reaction was, that's not so bad. Why was she
Speaker 1: so scared.
Speaker 2: I thought she was lying. When when Britney says it's
Speaker 2: Spice Girls, when she's confronted by everybody, I thought Brittany
Speaker 2: was like covering for her for a second.
Speaker 1: Was Spice Girls going through like a hated moment at
Speaker 1: that point, though, Like, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know what I think. In the nineties it was like
Speaker 2: the boy bands were guilty pleasures, Britney Spears' guils with pleasure.
Speaker 2: I think all the time they all were guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2: But by twenty thirteen people just accepted that they were
Speaker 2: icons and we all loved Spice Girls. But I also think,
Speaker 2: you know, Baby Spices on the set a couple weeks earlier.
Speaker 2: It was a way to get the Spice Girls onto
Speaker 2: the show. So like, whatever it.
Speaker 1: Takes, I mean, we were thrilled. We've been asking for
Speaker 1: this for a long time.
Speaker 2: I mean, two weeks in a row we got boy
Speaker 2: bands and now we have the Spice Girls, So whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean do it. Also the fact that Brittany said
Speaker 1: her guilty pleasure. When I look at a white dogger cut,
Speaker 1: I assume they're racist. And Lord Tubington's guilty pleasure is
Speaker 1: scientology and he's sitting there with a book of scientology open.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite scenes, and it tends to be
Speaker 2: like when all you girls get together, but all the
Speaker 2: girls together deciding who's going to be Witch Spice girl,
Speaker 2: and especially you and Alex together, so good your chemistry,
Speaker 2: everybody's timing, the way it's edited. It was good right, perfectly,
Speaker 2: it's so good. Well, here's a fun fact. So initially
Speaker 2: I was so thrilled I was going to be Jenner Spice.
Speaker 2: Oh and then I got pages pink pages, which when
Speaker 2: you get a script and things change, there's different an
Speaker 2: order of color. So I think pink is the first
Speaker 2: and that's a revision page. And we got pink pages,
Speaker 2: and Kitty got reassigned to Ginger Spice. I think because
Speaker 2: of the writing in that scene particularly and like Tina
Speaker 2: dressing that unique was not going to be the.
Speaker 1: Scary Spice. And I was devastated because Tina was dressed
Speaker 1: that's like crazy, So I felt like, oh, she gets
Speaker 1: to be like in that awesome British flag, yeah union dress, yes,
Speaker 1: like so cool. Ginger was my favorite. I mean she
Speaker 1: was a lot of people see it, but like I
Speaker 1: was stoked, and then of course I'm scary spize, which
Speaker 1: ended up working out because I loved it was perfect,
Speaker 1: but that was initially not the plan.
Speaker 2: I loved how it was shot. Everybody sort of did
Speaker 2: their Spice girl look at the camera, and then he
Speaker 2: has had their own entrance. I love also at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the scene you see Brittany hiding behind the
Speaker 2: seconds you just straight up to see her hiding, which
Speaker 2: is great. And I also feel like that was a
Speaker 2: very Eric Stultz thing where I feel like anybody else
Speaker 2: would have had her out of the shot initially.
Speaker 1: Right right, but we have Eric's like okay, fine.
Speaker 2: Get it, yeah, yeah, oh god love it. You guys like,
Speaker 2: how was rehearsing for this? How was recording this? What
Speaker 2: was this like?
Speaker 1: So the rehearsal for this was actually very last minute.
Speaker 1: So I remember rehearsing for this like on the day.
Speaker 2: Well, you're all professionals, and also there's a lot of
Speaker 2: footage to watch the Spice girls, so I imagine you can.
Speaker 1: True true, but it was very last minute. It was
Speaker 1: really fun though. I remember shooting this. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Everybody looked insane, everybody was in character. We had such
Speaker 1: a fun time. It was like freeform rockout ish though,
Speaker 1: even though there was like choreography, I think we shot
Speaker 1: this in zero time. It was so fast. I remember
Speaker 1: shooting this so fast. But like even the cameras of
Speaker 1: our entrances and our like little poses and things were
Speaker 1: like off the cuff, get it and go. That's why
Speaker 1: I remember about it. That's one.
Speaker 2: You were all so in it. Like Heather sporty spice
Speaker 2: impression was phenomenal. You was scary phenomenal. I like the
Speaker 2: way Becca came into that room as gender Spice and
Speaker 2: Melissa too, are you kidding? Melissa's posh was crazy.
Speaker 1: Your favorite ye act.
Speaker 2: None of you broke, none of you broke Alex with
Speaker 2: the lollipop the entire time, and like these insane ad libs.
Speaker 2: I it's sort of you know, we love the girl.
Speaker 1: Stream here, but yeah, yeah, yeah, what a dream. In fact,
Speaker 1: it was a dream to do.
Speaker 2: That also talented. I loved watching it.
Speaker 1: Thanks, that was really fun. So the other thing that's
Speaker 1: happening is that Jake wants to do a Chris Brown song.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe we did this. It's it's shocking that
Speaker 1: we did this. It's really surprising that we did this.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that they had Jake really wanting to do
Speaker 1: this but like not really, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was it was shocking, what an interesting conversation to have,
Speaker 2: and I also felt like both sides right tad mature
Speaker 2: reasoning for their positions, Like this doesn't necessarily feel like
Speaker 2: a high school conversation, but it feels like the conversation
Speaker 2: that I want to hear people have yes about. And
Speaker 2: it was Yeah, it was complicated that the girls were
Speaker 2: all together, like united this whole episode. We had to
Speaker 2: be yeah, yeah, and they like stood in a line
Speaker 2: and fired off. I love how it was blocked him
Speaker 2: sitting and had one one at a time going off
Speaker 2: on him, and he gave his reasoning like not good enough, right,
Speaker 2: and so he switched his position. But it was I
Speaker 2: just can't believe like we dealt with that like something
Speaker 2: as current that way.
Speaker 1: It was very current. It was very fresh. Two fair
Speaker 1: We do like Shooting Star next episode, so.
Speaker 2: Right, but the same though as me because it's felt
Speaker 2: really of all the crazy shit we do. It felt
Speaker 2: really surprising and then it also felt crazy. Jacob is
Speaker 2: his incredible performance of Bobby Brown. He switches the Brown
Speaker 2: unbelievable and does like he's just a phenomenal dancer. He's
Speaker 2: it's a great performance, Like more Jacob all the time.
Speaker 2: But then it cuts to Artie saying like, allegedly Bobby
Speaker 2: got me hooked on crack.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what is happening.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe, Like it really felt like Kid's House,
Speaker 2: but it's not true.
Speaker 1: Like the point was he was doing it to correct
Speaker 1: himself from Chris, and yet he still kind of made
Speaker 1: a mistake. It's funny, you know, You're like, but I
Speaker 1: see what you did there. But yeah, I just didn't
Speaker 1: know how to take it.
Speaker 2: I was like, can I laugh at these things? Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know totally. They were pretty funny. Though.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we did it. I'm glad there was talk
Speaker 1: of it. It just it's very Ryan. It's very nip
Speaker 1: tuck ish, like where everything in pop culture pops up
Speaker 1: in the show. For us, it's usually the music, but like,
Speaker 1: we're kind of these are our people, and so I
Speaker 1: think it's like you have to talk and we kind
Speaker 1: of These kids are up on their social media and
Speaker 1: they know what's up.
Speaker 2: And they also do it. That happened in the same
Speaker 2: way in Feuds, where they talked about the Elton and
Speaker 2: Madonna feud, and they prefaced it with they resolved it.
Speaker 2: Here's what it was about, where they give you sort
Speaker 2: of a well balanced, contextual conversation about it, where they
Speaker 2: very much felt like that It wasn't necessarily anybody taking
Speaker 2: one side, right, but it was about, well, here's why
Speaker 2: we feel like this, and here's why you feel like this.
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit down the middle of.
Speaker 1: It for sure.
Speaker 2: And then we get to Jenna's favorite band of all time, Abbo.
Speaker 1: I was grimacing doing this number because I do I
Speaker 1: do not like Abba. I did not like Abba. There's
Speaker 1: something that happened about six months to a year ago
Speaker 1: where I an Abba song would come on somewhere and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, well, that's actually pretty good. Why is
Speaker 1: that good?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I feel like you have artists like that that
Speaker 1: have hit you like that too, and in ways Abba
Speaker 1: has hit me like that. And I hated it. I
Speaker 1: really hated it. I kind of loved to hate it,
Speaker 1: you know. Doing this number was we made so much
Speaker 1: fun of like the whole thing, like we were just
Speaker 1: having fun with it. I did my like Vegas shogar arms.
Speaker 1: This number was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And I remember, do you remember us watching the video
Speaker 2: like we were trying to sort of imitate the real
Speaker 2: video of this.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean we looked it, but but I don't
Speaker 1: hate it, and I kind of like it, and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of a fan.
Speaker 2: I loved how so the two numbers on stage we
Speaker 2: sort of glossed over waiting it before you go go,
Speaker 2: But to bring these two numbers together that happened on
Speaker 2: the stage, and we're the big performances and like wake
Speaker 2: me up before you go go switched into the full
Speaker 2: eighties music video editing squares and the close ups of
Speaker 2: like John on the drums, and you had us in
Speaker 2: these crazy costumes and then for Abba having it paired
Speaker 2: with you know, the three of them in New York
Speaker 2: doing it with their boyfriend and girlfriend pillows. So then
Speaker 2: you had all of us being insane and Eric allowing
Speaker 2: all of us to do the most insane options. Because
Speaker 2: there's always like as an actor, you have like how
Speaker 2: big do you want me to go? How insane do
Speaker 2: you want me to go? And for this number, it
Speaker 2: was pick the craziest choice go. I mean you had
Speaker 2: a bell, I had a bell, I stuck my face
Speaker 2: into Becca's boobs.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention that during Spice Girls, Artie's fascination
Speaker 2: and obsession with Kitty is also happening. Weird scene where
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what to say. I thought was was, really,
Speaker 2: it's funny, it's so awkward. Everyone was very fun episodes.
Speaker 2: So it starts, Yes, it's it is very funny. Didn't
Speaker 2: it feel like the past couple episodes everyone has hit
Speaker 2: their stride in a way. Yes, I like the writing
Speaker 2: has all the new kids have and the old kids have,
Speaker 2: where everyone has settled and feels comfortable.
Speaker 1: Kids has hit his stride. Yes, it feels really good.
Speaker 2: And Mom and me have felt like a really good
Speaker 2: like summation and culmination of all of that. And I
Speaker 2: went from being just like you where I hated filming
Speaker 2: this number. I liked being insane. And I remember my
Speaker 2: mom watched this with me and she's like I was there.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I remember we had people in
Speaker 2: the audience watching, oh funny, and it felt insane, and
Speaker 2: I remember us being extra insane performing for people in
Speaker 2: the audience.
Speaker 1: We looked insane. The costumes were crazy. It was shot
Speaker 1: very similar to the video Araba.
Speaker 2: It took a summer in Europe hearing Abba out and
Speaker 2: I'm fully reformed it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen I've found the light. I've seen the light.
Speaker 1: I've come around.
Speaker 2: We were both late to the party, but it's better
Speaker 2: late than ever. I get it and I love this number.
Speaker 2: I wish it was twice as long. I agree, I
Speaker 2: loved I loved watching this. I might watch it again
Speaker 2: after we after we get off a few well to us,
Speaker 2: cudis to Eric, Yeah, no, I'm kidding, it's not. It
Speaker 2: was nothing to do with us, but it was a
Speaker 2: really fun number. Also, we forgot to talk about Tina's
Speaker 2: Guilty Pleasure Vicky the Roebuck girl. Okay, who didn't know
Speaker 2: what that was? I didn't think you did, but you
Speaker 2: committed and I loved it. And I also loved Kitty
Speaker 2: being like, I can't you hit my limit? Yeah? Like
Speaker 2: you don't know the Bobby Brown stuff, but you know
Speaker 2: this reference?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Jake's like, hey, Vicky, Yeah, so that is
Speaker 1: the Guilty Pleasure episode. Again, it's very one off, it's
Speaker 1: very in slur we it's it's funny, it had its moments.
Speaker 2: And Guilty Pleasure. What song would be your guilty pleasure
Speaker 2: or movie like you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really, I don't actually have to
Speaker 1: think about it. Titanic, I don't know if that's a
Speaker 1: guilty pleasure or not at this point. But a walk
Speaker 1: to Remember, Oh yeah, Adam Shankman, Yeah, those are the
Speaker 1: kind of movies like bring it On, like these cult
Speaker 1: classics from like the nineties.
Speaker 2: What a good part of Fondou for two. Speaking of which,
Speaker 2: the battling over the bringing sequels.
Speaker 1: That was Heather that came out of that character to
Speaker 1: that that in that scene that.
Speaker 2: Also felt like very jess Meyer battling over the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. She's like, no, you can't even like you
Speaker 1: can't like that one.
Speaker 2: Oh god, really funny writing this episode.
Speaker 1: Yes, clever, let's create some performances, okay, waiting meet before
Speaker 1: you go go. Honestly, the performance that was edited, I
Speaker 1: thought it was great. I think it was like an
Speaker 1: A copa comana A A against all odds, B plus
Speaker 1: B plus I want to be A plus A plus
Speaker 1: my prerogative A A creep here Oh wow, okay, great.
Speaker 2: Sold you sold me? Just they don't like the song.
Speaker 2: I think the performance of it was really great. Okay, Mom,
Speaker 2: and miya, it's my guilty pleasure now honestly, I know, Yes,
Speaker 2: it has become like you can nerd out about it.
Speaker 2: The albums were mixed, so they basically invented modern pop music.
Speaker 2: They did, and it's it's a outstanding but we wouldn't
Speaker 2: have Max Martin. And without Max Martin, we have nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have no idea. You have an idea,
Speaker 1: but you have no idea, you know. Okay, Chartie takes
Speaker 1: cringe moments. There's a few cringe moments. Yeah, the Chris
Speaker 1: Brown was like half cringe e And I'm yet still
Speaker 1: surprised by it. I think is the word that I use.
Speaker 2: Yes, Brittany calling unique Mercedes. I'm conflicted because it is funny,
Speaker 2: funny but also feels.
Speaker 1: It's a little racist, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: And like also referring to the Black one about the
Speaker 2: Spice Girls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few jokes in here, maybe a few
Speaker 1: too many.
Speaker 2: Dance move I mean, oh god, actually this is hard.
Speaker 2: My prerogative is definitely up there, like real dance movie, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but like spicel Mia, Spice Girls is they're all really good? Yeah,
Speaker 2: have some really good things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Best song wanna be for me?
Speaker 1: Sure, Mamma Mia for me. The best performance by a prop,
Speaker 1: I mean the macaroni.
Speaker 2: The macaroni.
Speaker 1: Like the Ama Stone. It's really something. It just tickles me.
Speaker 1: It really really just gets me. The Tubbington's Scientology book
Speaker 1: as well gets me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Best line. Sam Money makes a joke to Tina about
Speaker 1: rubbing Wintman on the chest and Tina saying that was
Speaker 1: a phase is a funny one.
Speaker 2: I think that that might be it. But there's some
Speaker 2: there's so many great moments in this episode. Santana says,
Speaker 2: I don't think you need all these beauty products, Rachel,
Speaker 2: because they're not having the desired effect, and this your
Speaker 2: goal is to look like a reject from the Shaws
Speaker 2: of sense.
Speaker 1: They also make a duck dinisty a joke in this one,
Speaker 1: which definitely ages us, But I, yeah, I thought that
Speaker 1: was funny because we love Dug.
Speaker 2: I loved Dug Dynasty when it was on. That's like
Speaker 2: Sam being like, you get your guilty pleasure is me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've known all year and you know, frankly,
Speaker 2: I'm an attractive guy and you're into dudes. And if
Speaker 2: you weren't into me, I'd probably be pretty offended. Oh actually,
Speaker 2: right after that, he says they're hugging, and it's this
Speaker 2: beautiful moment where Sam gets this look on his face
Speaker 2: and goes, dude, please tell me that is only a
Speaker 2: pack of life Savers in your podcast, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: so good comedy. I love stupid comedy performance.
Speaker 1: M VP.
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's hard.
Speaker 1: This is a hard one. This is hard because it
Speaker 1: was a very much on our McKinley end. It was
Speaker 1: very much a group effort, it really was. I think
Speaker 1: I think Cord had some breakout moments. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: Leah Yes was very good in New York, as was
Speaker 1: all of them in New York were great. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: of them in New York were great.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I.
Speaker 1: Know you've honorable mentioned to Cord and Leah. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: just split it between them, Okay, fair enough. Jennifer shuit
Speaker 1: we on a TikTok. Jess wells.
Speaker 2: Sitting at a bar and says, drastically changing the vibe
Speaker 2: of any bar I enter by immediately queuing up Glee
Speaker 2: on the Touch Tunes Amber's version of Buster Windows, and
Speaker 2: she's looking guilty but also very satisfied and I love that.
Speaker 2: That's a real one, right there, a real fan. I
Speaker 2: appreciate it. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: I love that so much. Responsibility. There's one of those
Speaker 2: at a bar. I have one of flaming saddles in
Speaker 2: New York and it's a great time.
Speaker 1: Well, that is Guilty Pleasures, and next episode is that episode.
Speaker 2: I'm a little.
Speaker 1: Scared you should be. Well, hopefully you'll join us for
Speaker 1: a very yeah, tough conversation. But thanks for joining us
Speaker 1: for Guilty Pleasures. Write in tell us what your guilty
Speaker 1: pleasure is if it has done anything to do with Clee.
Speaker 2: It feels like we've had too much fun and now
Speaker 2: it's going to get really serious. Yeah you know so
Speaker 2: up okay, buckle up, here we go. Thanks for joining us,
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