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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecop Three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast Thursday night. The Minnesota Viking game is basically over

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Speaker 1: case Kingdom got knocked out, Haskins came down and the

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Speaker 1: Redskins do what the Redskins doo? They look like crap.

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Speaker 1: They actually weren't terrible in the first half, but in

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Speaker 1: the second half with Haskins, what what a train wreck.

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into a little bit of this game the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: If Kirk Cousins plays well that they're not going away. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on the trades from earlier this

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Speaker 1: week with Emmanuel Sanders almost said de Marius Thomas his

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Speaker 1: former teammate and he's long gone. Emmanuel Sanders de Marius

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Speaker 1: to get traded earlier this year, Niners trading the third

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Speaker 1: and fourth and then the Patriots, you know, two teams

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Speaker 1: obviously on different cycles. One team's championship or bus the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners just dying to make the playoffs. But I

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Speaker 1: like both deals from both squads. And I saw some

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Speaker 1: things on social media regarding the trades. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: disagree with and then I'll dive into every game. Uh,

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Speaker 1: coming up this Sunday, not not a great slate. I'm

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Speaker 1: the two Bay Area games probably are there. There's actually

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Speaker 1: a couple of morning games didn't matter. I mean the

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Speaker 1: then we got, you know, the Niners play the Panthers

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Speaker 1: of I wouldn't say a bad loss, the culture good

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Speaker 1: and both of the whoever wins that game is gonna

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Speaker 1: be in the six spot for the wild card. I

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Speaker 1: get it's late October, but still, I mean those the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: if they could win that game would have tiebreakers over

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Speaker 1: Indie and Houston. And then the Middlecoff mailbag is always

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Speaker 1: might be a little shorter of a pod. Uh at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Instagram and slide up in those d ms

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Speaker 1: answer your questions here. We had a little Fox gathering.

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Speaker 1: I heart media Premier Networks. I'm not exactly sure how

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Speaker 1: this all works. I just know that I do a

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Speaker 1: podcast for Colin. But there are a lot of different entities,

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Speaker 1: and there was like this party golf tournament down in

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Speaker 1: uh in southern California. I talk a lot of craft

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Speaker 1: about l a being a Northern California guy. Uh, And

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Speaker 1: I hate the Lakers, and you know, I kind of

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Speaker 1: hate the Dodgers too, but I really hate the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Yet every time I go down there, you know you're

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Speaker 1: So I got to see Colin. Uh. Didn't sleep much

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days. I I have been a

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Speaker 1: shell of my myself. This morning getting back really really

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Speaker 1: got to UH got to talk a little football with

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. He was he was at this event. It

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Speaker 1: was pretty cool. I just just love talking ball. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Carson is a massive human being. I mean a

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Speaker 1: massive human being. Uh. It's it's pretty easy when you're

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Speaker 1: standing next to him listen to him talk like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you look exactly like a number one overall pick would look.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I got his email. Hopefully we'll get

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Speaker 1: him on the podcast UH the next couple of months

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Speaker 1: to talk a little quarterback play in football. But let's

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the vikings and listen. I've been as

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Speaker 1: hard over the last twelve months on Kirk Cousins, probably

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Speaker 1: I was terrified the forty Niners in my backyard. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna sign him. Uh he's too robotic for me. But

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Speaker 1: His game against the Bears couldn't have gone much worse.

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Speaker 1: He did have a terrible fourth and one quarterback sneak tonight,

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Speaker 1: deserved to lose last week when Rabel didn't go for

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Speaker 1: to the fifty yard line and then Melvin Gordon scored

426
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 1: but he couldn't hold on to the touchdown, so or

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00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, he fumbled, but that play wasn't a touchdown,

428
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: but he had got stuffed a couple other times. Eckler,

429
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: it looked like was close. That game was crazy. I

430
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: I really I can't even pretend to care about this game.

431
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: I get the one thing I am interested on. Can

432
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: Jamis throw five picks a game? Can just from here

433
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 1: on out? Can you just throw five interceptions a game?

434
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: That would probably be an NFL record? Chargers at the

435
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: Bears absolutely much to win game for the Bears because

436
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: next week they got they gotta go to Philly. Uh

437
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: So you win, you beat the Chargers at home, and

438
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: then you go to Philly and get some Uh you

439
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: beat the Eagles. You're five and three and you're kind

440
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: of live. You lose this week and you're three and

441
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: four playing a desperate Philly team, Like, I don't take

442
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: you that seriously. I'm not a big Mr. Whisky guy.

443
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: I wish my guy Naggy could tell hell f Rich, hey,

444
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: can we pump the brakes a little bit on this

445
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: Oregon scheme and start hammering people? Uh, the Chargers finally,

446
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: they just kind of been touched by the karma gods

447
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: where just the injuries hit him again and you know,

448
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the football gods are tired of Dean Spanos

449
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: being so cheap? Is this Philip Rivers last year? I

450
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that can be discounted. Is it

451
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: time for the Chargers just to move on if they

452
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs and go like six and ten? But

453
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: the Bears are a team when you trade two first

454
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: rounds for Khalil mac Whether. I guess you don't have

455
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, but you do that to

456
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: be a playoff team a couple of years back to back.

457
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: And if they lose this game there, I mean, you

458
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: could argue right now they're not a playoff team and

459
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: they're definitely the way they're playing not but to keep

460
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: their playoff hopes alive because they've already beat the Vikings

461
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: once and they play the Packers pretty close. You gotta

462
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: win this game. This is absolutely must win games. Time

463
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: for a Mitch. Can you just make a couple of

464
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: plays for the love of god, Jets of the Jaguars. Uh,

465
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: it was tough watching Sam Donald last week. You know,

466
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: he goes one week where he plays the Cowboys he

467
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: looks like Joe Namath, the next week where he looks

468
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: like Christian Hackenburg. It was it was embarrassing. It was

469
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: the whole Jets operation was embarrassing. I get there playing

470
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but at home Monday night, you would think

471
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: he'd be able to score ten points, at least have

472
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: a couple of trick plays or do something. Uh. The

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars right now three and four, Uh, they're definitely

474
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Speaker 1: not dead. They win this game. They're four and four

475
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Speaker 1: and they've done it basically the entire time with their

476
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback a six round pick. I think that's pretty impressive.

477
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Speaker 1: There are six point favorite in this game, six and

478
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: a half point favorite. I I just struggle trying to

479
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: figure out the Jets, Like, are they got awful Colletiosemily

480
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: thinks they're trying to screw him with some medical thing.

481
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: He talked today, said Adam Gates. They haven't talked in

482
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Just just a weird operation. Some

483
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: of the buzz I was hearing when I was down

484
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: in l A at the little Fox deal with the NFL,

485
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: people were like, you know, listen, get Gayson and uh

486
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: and Greg Williams don't don't even talk, they don't even communicate.

487
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: They can't stand each other. So just the coaching staff,

488
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Gainst such a weird dude, Greg Williams and

489
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: eagle maniac Donald. Is this young quarterback that needs help.

490
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: They don't have very much talent. The Jets are train

491
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: wreck right now. I mean their owner his brother technically

492
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: run the team right but he's over and who knows

493
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: where some other country has been there, just a just

494
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: a joke for a franchise that should be competitive. I

495
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: I like the Jacksonville Jaguars more. I think about this

496
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: big It's a big game for our guy Doug Peterson

497
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz here. The Bills right now are playing

498
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: a little bit with house money. Uh, they've been fantastic

499
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: this year. Defensively, obviously, the offense has been very hit

500
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Speaker 1: or miss. But when you have a defense as good

501
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: as the Bills, there's a reason I think I wanted

502
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: to say they were six and one, but they might

503
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Speaker 1: be five and one. They are the other five and

504
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: one and in an a f C where it looks

505
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 1: like if they get a ten wins, they'd be a

506
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Speaker 1: lock playoff team. The Eagles, they gotta have this, man,

507
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: You can't you go three and five one you the

508
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: only way they're making the playoffs winning the division. But

509
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Speaker 1: you go three and five like the Cowboys have already

510
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: beat you. How are you gonna make up two games

511
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys? And in really two and a half.

512
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: This is as absolute like this isn't must win for

513
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: the for the Eagles, it's or I mean for the Bills.

514
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: That's why I kind of like the Birds plus two

515
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: in this game. But they have some fundamental flaws. Their

516
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: pass rush has been terrible, their corner stink. Uh. Their

517
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: offense you know, hasn't been terrible, but it hasn't been

518
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Speaker 1: on now. Carson wasn't very good in the last Cowboy game,

519
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: but I thought he had been playing well. The week's

520
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: leading up. They gotta have this because you go three

521
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: and five. I'll tell you this, I love working in

522
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia market because I worked in sports the passion

523
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: and everyone gave a ship and it was intense. But

524
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: when you lose and you have high expectations, that's when

525
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: a market like that gets the most intense. I'd say Philly,

526
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: a New York in Boston when they think you should

527
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: be a playoff team and you underperform, whether it's definitely

528
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Speaker 1: with the baseball and football teams and in New York

529
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: with the with the I wouldn't say the Knicks, but yeah,

530
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: mainly just baseball and football. They come for blood like

531
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Speaker 1: it's it's a war zone, and right now it's kind

532
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: of a war zone for Doug. Now, luckily he's been

533
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: around the market a long time and I think you

534
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: can handle it. But they got a lot of weird

535
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: stuff going on. They got leaks and then Howard Eskin

536
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: says as Alexeon Jeffrey and then he claims that the

537
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: team didn't give it to him. Just a lot of

538
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, external stuff that they they would they would

539
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: love to put to bed. But the only way you

540
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: put that ship to bed, you gotta win. And when

541
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: you're three and four and it feels like the wheels

542
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: are falling off, it's hard to quiet that stuff. It's

543
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: hard to put out the fire when you don't have

544
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: any water in your cup. You know, when you got

545
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: a hose in your hand, you got a chance. It

546
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: feels like right now Doug Peters is looking around for

547
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: the hose. But the one thing I you can't discount

548
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles is Doug's proven he's a really good offensive coordinator,

549
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: and Carson has proven when he's on he can be

550
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: as good as any player in the league. So when

551
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: you have a when you have a very talented quarterback

552
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: and a good play caller, you're never dead. Bengals at

553
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: the Rams thirteen and a half point line, you know,

554
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: are the Bengals? Are the Bengals the worst team in

555
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: the league, at least the Dolphins, having just watched them

556
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: a couple of times this year. They give, They try,

557
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: you know, they just their talent is terrible, but they try.

558
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: The Bengals actually have some good players, they just don't

559
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: they're terrible. I mean, I thought it was a lock

560
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: and it probably still is. For the Dolphins to go

561
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: undefeated in the wrong way. I think the Bengals got

562
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: a shot too that they're what they're owen six right now? Uh,

563
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: they have to have their point differential for the Cincinnati

564
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Bengals is minus seventy two. Well, the Dolphins and the

565
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: Jets haven't beat there's some bad teams and the one

566
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Speaker 1: an other one NFC team hasn't beat two, the Redskins

567
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: haven't beat and the Falcons have There's some bad teams.

568
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: There's a bad scene. Maybe maybe I smoke a little

569
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: too fast, but yeah, I think the Rams this is

570
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: just another This is where the Rams, even when they

571
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: went three and three and got their asking by the Niners,

572
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: their next three games where the Falcons, the Bengals and

573
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Speaker 1: the Broncos. So you're gonna look up and they add

574
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and they're gonna be six and three. They're

575
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: they're right in the mix. And that speaks to what

576
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: I said earlier today in the show. The NFC is loaded,

577
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: because if the Rams are like your six or seventh

578
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: best team ship, you're in pretty good shape. I mean,

579
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Speaker 1: what would the Rams be in the a f C

580
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: three seed Raiders Texans? I gotta tip my gro his

581
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: team really since when was the worst game probably Week

582
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: two when they played the Chiefs and they gave up

583
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: four touchdownds in a quarter. You just went, well, this

584
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: team is not gonna be very good, and kind of

585
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: since then they've righted the ship. The Packer game is

586
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: a weird loss because it was basically a one point

587
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: game at halftime until Derek Carr fumbles the ball. They

588
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: score like the score doesn't reflect the actual game. The

589
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: Raiders have been good this year, and many people around

590
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: the parts where I live considering myself a Raider hater,

591
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm not. I actually like it when they're good at football,

592
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: so I gotta give him a punch of chance in

593
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: this game. There's seven point underdog on the road in

594
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Houston watching the Houston game against Indie. They're kind of

595
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: a two man squad. I mean, DeShawn just got to

596
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: do everything that They're running backs are Carlos Hide, Duke Johnson,

597
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: DeAndre is a star, Kenny Steeles can make some plays.

598
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean J. J. Watts still okay, but their defense

599
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: isn't great. I mean the Raiders have a formula. They

600
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: want to run the ball down your throat with Josh

601
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Jacobs control the clock and occasionally dump it off to

602
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: the tight ends they want to try to win the game,

603
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: like twenty to seventeen. So if the Raiders can dictate

604
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: their terms, they have a chance. They did it for

605
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: a split second against the Packers, and then the second

606
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: half it got into a scoring frenzy and they got

607
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: no chance. If it's a high scoring game, the Raiders

608
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: will lose. If they can keep it in the teams

609
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: going on the fourth quarter, the Raiders will be in

610
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Speaker 1: the game because their formula. Josh Jacobs is a is

611
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: a legitimate Rookie of the Year candidate, and if he

612
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: keeps playing like if they were to win this game

613
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: and he goes for a hundred, he might be the

614
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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. The probably the forty Niners against

615
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: the Panthers, their six point favorite right now. I think

616
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's the best player the forty Niners have seen

617
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: this year as a defense, which the forty Niners defense

618
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: right now through three games, and I'm I'm including the

619
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Harbor era and then the entire nineties and nine when

620
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: they won Super Bowls, have never had a stretch of

621
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Speaker 1: six games this good on defense in terms of points.

622
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: Now is it a little You know, inflated is the

623
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: wrong word to be, like deflated because they haven't allowed

624
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: many points because they played bad quarterbacks for sure. Now

625
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: they're getting Kyle Allen this week, but Christian McCaffrey has

626
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: been an m VP level player. If this defense can

627
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: hold Christian McCaffrey to like under fifty total yards, maybe

628
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: the defense at the end of the year, it's just

629
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna be us. Is the Patriots, the Eagles, I mean

630
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: not the Eagles, Patriots, Niners, Saints. You know that three

631
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: or four just elite defenses. Maybe the Niners and one

632
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: of them. I think the Niners are definitely built for

633
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: the long haul and should be considered one of the

634
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: top two or three defense at the end of the year.

635
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: But they got a lot of tough games coming up.

636
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Speaker 1: You know, they got this game, they got a Packer game,

637
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: they got a Seattle game. Hell, they haven't even played

638
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, who were kind of a weird team with

639
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: that offense. They're gonna play the Rams again, they play

640
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: the Saints, they play the Ravens. It's if they end

641
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: up with the top three or four scoring defense at

642
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: the end of the season, they will have earned it

643
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: and McCaffrey, to me, is their first real real test.

644
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: A little. They had one with Baker Mayfield a couple

645
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: of weeks ago on Monday Night Football. But it's a little,

646
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, skewed because their team wasn't such shambles so

647
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: and the difference between a running back and a receiver

648
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: is Baker was so bad in that game. The the

649
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: the blocking for the their offensive line was so terrible.

650
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: They couldn't get in the ball. So with a running back,

651
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: you just hand it to him. I'm fascinated to watch

652
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: this matchup. I I would probably take the Panthers plus six.

653
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: But these these two Bay Area games, Raiders Houston and

654
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers San Francisco, that's a pretty good little afternoon slate.

655
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: The Broncos going on the road to the Colts getting

656
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: six and a half points. If the Colts play their game,

657
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: that should kick their ass. Culture just better at basically

658
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: every position. And you know, props Dale away he realized

659
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: the team is not that good. He traded one of

660
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: his best players, Emmanuel Sanders of the Niners. I like

661
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: the Colts in this game. And this is back to

662
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: that Houston Raider game. This is where it becomes kind

663
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: of interesting. The Raiders have already beat the Colts, so

664
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: Houston needs to beat the Raiders just to maintain with

665
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: the Colts. But if the Colts lose of the Broncos

666
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: and the Raiders beat the Texans, they would have tiebreakers

667
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: over both. Or excuse me, the Broncos beat the Colts.

668
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that. I got a little ahead of myself.

669
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: If the Raiders were to beat the Texans and the

670
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Broncos beat the Colts, the Raiders will have beat both

671
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and the Indianapolis Colts. Now one of

672
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: those two teams has to win the division, but they

673
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: would have the tiebreaker over those two teams for like

674
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: another wild card. So again, as crazy as it sounds,

675
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: Raiders and playoffs, the math and then the matchups are

676
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: just telling you if they were to win this game,

677
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: the Colts need need to take care of business against

678
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Either way, whether the Raiders win or the

679
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: Texans lose, like this is a big game. That's that's

680
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: what makes the NFL fun. It's all these games really

681
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: start to matter, you know, because most teams are not

682
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna go fourteen and two. Most teams are between you know,

683
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking the good teams are between nine and seven

684
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: and eleven and five, And winning divisional games is one thing,

685
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: but then it's that next week. It's like, you take

686
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: care of business against your divisional rival, but then the

687
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: next week you play some shitty team and you screw up.

688
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: It almost negates everything you just earned the previous week.

689
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: So I look for the Colts to take care of business.

690
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: But sometimes these games can be a little weird. The

691
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: Browns getting thirteen and a half points of the Patriots.

692
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: Now Jarvis Landry I think guaranteed to win. You know,

693
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: some people were saying he actually didn't say the Patriots,

694
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: but whatever, you know, there is And o'callen was talking

695
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield, who was popping off of the mouth

696
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: and saying, guys on his own team need to take responsibility.

697
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree anymore with Colin, Like Baker, just shut up,

698
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: just stop talking. You know what what did Lebron hate?

699
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Shut up? In Dorouble, Just shut up and complete some passes. Please,

700
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: just shut up and complete some passes. And no one

701
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: thinks you're going to Vegas. Doesn't think you're Vegas, thinks

702
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna get worked. So if you go two and

703
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: five and you lose by twenty points, let's say we

704
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: we wake up, we flip on, you know, we go

705
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: to bed Sunday night and the New England Patriots have

706
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: just beaten the Cleveland Browns forty to ten. Is Freddie

707
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Kitchens a lock to keep this job? They'd be two

708
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: and five and basically done, Like, how are they going

709
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: to make? The playoffs? Would be bye bye see a

710
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: shut up Browns, the Cleveland I'm so tired of the

711
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. They acted like they mattered. They haven't mattered

712
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: my entire adult life, just because you trade for a

713
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver and draft you know, a quarterback number one

714
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: and keep telling me he's really good, and I like, again,

715
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: I liked Baker, but he just hasn't played very well

716
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: this season. He is not handling whether it's the pressure,

717
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: whether it's the improvement you need to make from year

718
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: one to year two. And I've never even gone down

719
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: the road of, you know, him doing all the commercials,

720
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: limited his workout time whatever. I mean, I was like,

721
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know he he always just looks like kind

722
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: of a short, average athlete, that's who he is. But

723
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: he hangs his hat on completing balls. So I don't

724
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: think Drew Brees like living and dying, you know, doing

725
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: squats in the off season. But he clearly throws all

726
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: the time because whenever he plays, he's accurate, and that's

727
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: what Baker Mayfield needs to be as accurate. Well, what

728
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: do the Patriots do better than any team in the

729
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: league right now? They cover I mean their defensive backfield

730
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: every time. When I was recording some of the podcast,

731
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: when the game was getting away in the second half

732
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: on Monday, I look up and they were picking off

733
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Sam Donald again. Their defensive backfield is like borderline ben historic.

734
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: How are they going to complete balls? I don't I

735
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: don't understand how these guys are gonna get open. I

736
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: understand how they're gonna get open, you know, because O'Dell

737
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: can get open on anybody. But do you have faith

738
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: that Baker can get them the ball and you have

739
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: faith that the Browns can block for Baker? I think

740
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: the Browns are in major, major trouble, and I don't

741
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: see how the Patriots probably don't cover that number. Okay,

742
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: let's get a couple of middlecoff mail bag questions before

743
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: I get everyone out of here on this Thursday night.

744
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I can't I can't express how how bad I felt.

745
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, I drank maybe a little too much,

746
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: and you know, had to wake up calling about four

747
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: or forty five and didn't sleep very much. And you

748
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: know this this young guy that used to be able

749
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: to you know, what do they say? You gotta hoot

750
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: with the owls and crow with the chickens or something

751
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: like that. I majorly just screwed up that uh saying.

752
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: But that was struggling to say the world. I mean,

753
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: I've been I've been a shelf of myself today. But

754
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, like like any anyone who takes their craft

755
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: and profession seriously, I dug deep, You're getting all I

756
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: got right now, you're getting all I have. It seems

757
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: like whenever I watch college football and teams that are

758
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: down three points with less than two minutes to go

759
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: that they're guaranteed to score TV or getting field goal range.

760
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: When will d cs figure out the defense to come back?

761
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: This two minutes is an eternity in college football, and

762
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: they sit back and allow underneath throws. I agree that's

763
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: a good point because college football, every time you get

764
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: a first down, the clock stops. So I think a

765
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: lot of college coordinators are terrified to play, you know,

766
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: leave their corners on an island, because unlike in the NFL,

767
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: where even where you'd say, well half the NFL corners

768
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: aren't great. In college, you're like the guy that you have.

769
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: It's a good player at corner. Usually your second corner

770
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: is you know, really bad. So I I think they're

771
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: just terrified to get beat. But I'm with you. I

772
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: I despise prevent defense. Whether it's in college or we're

773
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Stay aggressive. Do what if you have

774
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: the lead and your defense has been playing well, just

775
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: continue to do what you were doing. I don't think

776
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: anyone will crush you, but you will get destroyed and

777
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: ripped as you should for playing prevent defense. Don't be

778
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: a pansy when when when you know it's time to

779
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: win the game. I don't get it. I've never been

780
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: a coach, but it's something that I know drives front

781
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: office is crazy. Just play your normal freaking defense. Saints

782
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: or Chicago. This is a week old. So I'm gonna

783
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: go with the Saints. I'm gonna go with the Saints big,

784
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna oh the Saints. Big. I should do that.

785
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: I should wait for all these questions to come in

786
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: like a week later, and then just and then just

787
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: answer them. Uh. I came in the season ready to

788
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: blow the Jets because of the pod. What the f

789
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: is wrong with your boy? Donald? Is it? Mono? I'm

790
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: telling you he looks so good against the Cowboys. Maybe

791
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: it's just Belichick, who's now the defensive coordinator for the

792
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: uh doing the Patriots. You know, it turns out Belichick's

793
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: pretty good defensive coordinator. I don't know if you guys,

794
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: maybe we're all late to the party on this, but

795
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: I think he knows what he's doing. So when Donald

796
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: said he was seeing ghosts, of course he was seeing ghosts.

797
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: Belichick is probably doing coverages. He's like eventing coverages. Is

798
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: there a chance that he invented new coverages over the

799
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: off season. I wouldn't be shocked, Like stuff that has

800
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: never been running before. He's just doing it. And Sam Donald,

801
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: who's you know, hasn't played that much in the NFL.

802
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: That's it's not a fair fight. It's just it's just

803
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: not you know, Bill Belichick would be one thing to

804
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: get Like Matt Patricia was the D c but to

805
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: get Belichick being the defensive coordinator and he hates the Jets.

806
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Yeah, in fairness to Donald and

807
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: even Adam Gaze, I think it is you almost got

808
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: to throw the Patriot game away because Belichick's hatred for

809
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: the for the Jets. If you think about all the

810
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: hatreds in America of just and I'm not talking like

811
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: it's probably a slippery slope, but let's just say the

812
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: whatever you dislike the most, you probably don't dislike the Jets,

813
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: like the equivalent of what Belichick thinks about the Jets.

814
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: And most of our lives, we don't have anything that

815
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: we hold that much hatred for because it's it runs deep.

816
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: And I thinking back, like, hey, Bill, you signed the

817
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: contract with the Jets back in the day to be

818
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: the head coach and then you wanted to leave. So yeah,

819
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: they made you, you know, they made the Patriots give

820
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: up picks to get you or whatever. But that that

821
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: was somewhat on you. Now did it get amplified, I'd

822
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: by the fact that they turned him in for spy Gate.

823
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: I think that's where probably the hatred went to. Uh,

824
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: it was probably you know, like zero to sixty. It

825
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: was probably already at like thirty, just because he wanted

826
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: to get out there. He thought Parcels was screwing him.

827
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: But then when they turned him in for spy Gate

828
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: and it was Mangini, then he went from zero to sixty,

829
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: zero to one fifty and he's never ever coming back.

830
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean his hatred you got. You gotta appreciate pettiness.

831
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: I know Collins, you know in Colin's book, he had

832
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: a great quote, Uh, holding a grudge is like chain

833
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: smoking hat and I had pushed back a little bit.

834
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: I'd say, holding a grudge if you let it consume

835
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: your life and think about it. But I don't think

836
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: having some grudges if you can use it to drive you.

837
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: I would be the first to say I got a couple.

838
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, I got a couple, and I don't let

839
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: him go. I don't and when they pop into my

840
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: mind at the wrong time, I push it away. Now,

841
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: if it consumes your mind, it doesn't consume Belichick's mind. Belichick's'

842
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: just thinks about the next game. But when he plays

843
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: the Jets, he wants to bury them. You mentioned the

844
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: Bears trading for someone like Mariotta Keenham or someone or

845
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: at least competent. How hard is it for a quarterback

846
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: to come in mid year and to learn a new

847
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: system hasn't gotten easier with the offense is becoming more

848
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: spread out. That's a good question. I think in a

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Speaker 1: perfect world, if you're gonna make a mid season trade,

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Speaker 1: you would like to get a player, even if you

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Speaker 1: haven't coached him, that has run your offense. Now you'd

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Speaker 1: say the Mariota thing, Well, who's Matt Maggie's offensive coordinator's

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Speaker 1: Mark Helfrich. If you just watch the Bears game, they

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Speaker 1: look like Chip Kelly's Oregon team the way they line up,

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Speaker 1: just gun runs and four and five wide. So I

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Speaker 1: do think the transition wouldn't be as crazy. But I

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Speaker 1: talked to someone in the league and they had a

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Speaker 1: good point, like is Mariotta that much better than Trabisky?

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Speaker 1: And I thought about it for a second, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's not that much better, because if you just

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Speaker 1: watch Mariotta this year, he wasn't just like not very

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Speaker 1: good like he was, he was terrible. He can't pull

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Speaker 1: the trigger. He looked like he's law stall confidence. He

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Speaker 1: looks lost. He really does, So you could convince me

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Speaker 1: that is is is Mariotta or even Keenam to me

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Speaker 1: that it would be like a Teddy Bridgewater or like

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Speaker 1: you go, you go take a huge swing, get like

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton. But you know it's hard. You don't. You

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Speaker 1: don't really see it with quarterbacks at all. You have

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Speaker 1: the best podcast on the Herd network. Appreciate it. I

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Speaker 1: think they're all really good. I was talking to Rob

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Speaker 1: Parker and and and Got Leave last night. I ran

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Speaker 1: into Got Leave and like Chris Bouchard, Bouchard, Bruce Hard

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Speaker 1: at the at this party and all I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to blast Lebron. It's always funcy and NBA people just

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Speaker 1: so you can you know, that's where my grudges come out,

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Speaker 1: so I can just talk about the Lakers. Are you

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Speaker 1: still in the market for a CPA to help you grow? No,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm I got a guy. He charges me

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Speaker 1: a lot, but he does a good job, saves your money.

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Speaker 1: So just listen to podcast. Vic was a left handed quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a question last week about left handed quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't think of one, and Michael Vick clearly is

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Speaker 1: a left handed quarterback. It really is crazy, though, beside

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick and and Mark Brunell of like the late nineties,

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Speaker 1: early two thousand's, there haven't been that many. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, the people bring up these percentages

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Speaker 1: about left handed people in America. Why we have so

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Speaker 1: few left handed quarterbacks? I mean, one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: players ever with Steve Young. They're just there have been

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Speaker 1: few and far between yet think about it. Like with baseball,

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Speaker 1: that is what's crazy. Think about baseball, there are countless.

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Speaker 1: I mean every team has multiple left handed pitchers. Half

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Speaker 1: you know the lineup, half the your active guys that

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Speaker 1: are position players you might not even be starters, are

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Speaker 1: left handed batters. Think about basketball, I'm watching the Warrior

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Speaker 1: game on the background right now. Worst traded for Danceel

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Speaker 1: Russell left hand. I can name ten guys in the

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Speaker 1: NBA that shot left handed. Getting the NFL quarterbacks, they

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Speaker 1: just don't exist. It really is wild. We're gonna need

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Speaker 1: some like really smart guy to do a deep, deep,

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Speaker 1: deep dive at a study or something. Historically speaking, was

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Speaker 1: there ever a quarterback room with more talent than Tom,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy and Jacoby You would just probably go all in

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Speaker 1: on Montana and you would go all in on Montana

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Speaker 1: and Young or Rogers and far So would you go

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Speaker 1: would you rather have the greatest quarterback ever? And there's

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Speaker 1: just a lot of unknown with Jimmy and Jacoby, Like

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Speaker 1: if both those guys eventually, like win a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: one day, yeah it won't even be a conversation. But

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Speaker 1: if neither of those guys do and they're just consistent

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Speaker 1: like top ten quarterbacks, I think you'd go, Well, Montana

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Speaker 1: and Steve Young or Farvan Rogers, I mean both, you

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Speaker 1: would have Montana's the second best quarterback ever. Roger's gonna

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Speaker 1: go down as like the fifth or sixth best quarterback ever.

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Speaker 1: Young's like eight or nine, and you know, far five

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Speaker 1: or six, seven, like all those guys. I would go

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Speaker 1: with the two, like the two of elite eyes over

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Speaker 1: the three, unless Jimmy and Jacoby proved that one of

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Speaker 1: them is a you know, a superstar, which to me

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Speaker 1: is not another realm of possibility. Now there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of unknown with Jimmy. Are we ever gonna see Jimmy

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Speaker 1: have a three yard game? Now? They haven't had to

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Speaker 1: do it because they're playing defense and running the ball.

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Speaker 1: Jacoby just had a game where he threw four touchdowns

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Speaker 1: or actually, I think they had four red zone touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he threw four touchdounds. Maybe he did.

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Speaker 1: I think he did, actually, But he was really good

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Speaker 1: in that game against Houston. But he's had some games

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Speaker 1: where he's just okay. But he's a good player. Like

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Speaker 1: he's he's clearly already like a top fifteen quarterback. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: has more talent. But Jimmy there's just throws some devastating interceptions.

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Speaker 1: You know, he throws picks a lot of picks. Now

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Speaker 1: he's he just started, I think a sixteenth game of

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Speaker 1: his career last week. So yeah, the crazy thing about

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's he's twenty six or seven years old and he

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Speaker 1: really hasn't played that much. Standing podcast, any news on

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Speaker 1: Jalen Herd, wide receiver for forty Niners. Does he have

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Speaker 1: a chance of coming act the season having an impact

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Speaker 1: on our team? I would say no. I I am

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Speaker 1: taking it as he's out for the year. I know

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Speaker 1: he's on ante reserve, but the Nighters have a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys on any reserve they could technically bring him back,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's fair to say with a back fracture,

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Speaker 1: it's just what he had in training camp that he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a no go. So I have chocked

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Speaker 1: him up in my mind as a no go. And then,

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Speaker 1: as I talked about earlier, why do you trade that

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Speaker 1: extra fourth round pick to get a man of Sanders

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Speaker 1: to make sure because you just you need wide receivers. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you had this kid coming back, you might feel

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Speaker 1: a little more confident. But I think that tells you

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Speaker 1: everything you know about just Jalen heard and really what

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Speaker 1: the forty thing about the wide receivers? I got a

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Speaker 1: bunch more questions. I'm gonna I'll probably directly uh interact

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Speaker 1: with some of you guys on on Insta at John Middlecoff,

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Speaker 1: slide up in those d m s and just enjoy

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Enjoy college football. I got a wedding to

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Speaker 1: go to, uh Saturday. Now I'm gonna I'm gonna try

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Speaker 1: to fire back really early, be like I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: drink that much and get back early and uh watch

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Speaker 1: the games so he enjoy uh enjoy football. It's a

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Speaker 1: l s U. Auburn. That's a big time college football game.

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Speaker 1: Pretty Wisconsin, Ohio State, pretty excited. Subscribe to all your

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Speaker 1: friends about the podcast and have a great weekend. See

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Speaker 1: you two.