WEBVTT - “WE MOVED IN FAST” 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, it is me. It is Lyle. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Therapy Gecko podcast. I don't normally record intros for these

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<v Speaker 1>because the calls just kind of speak for themselves, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I felt like doing it today. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like addressing the people who listen to this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just wanted to say thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for listening to this show. It's this summer,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be five years of being the Therapy Gecko, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a really wild ride. It's had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ups and downs for me, you know, personally, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so cool that this is, that this has

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<v Speaker 1>lasted this long, and that I've gotten to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I just I maybe wanted a public record

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<v Speaker 1>of myself so that I can know when I'm fifty

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<v Speaker 1>whatever years old, that in the moment that I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, I recognized how cool it was. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just wanted to do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>today I am ready to talk to people on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I am currently recording this in my mom's basement, where

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing started five years ago. I am home

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jewish holiday of Passover, so I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>eating Matza and saying saying stuff. I'm into my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>basement and I'm ready to take phone calls like it's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty again, except with all the bad twenty twenty stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do it. Therapy GEcho Podcast Today. Hello, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up man? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Cody, Cody.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening Cody? What's life looking like for you? Today?

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<v Speaker 2>Life's been going great, man. I graduated school, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to become an EMT next week. Getting engaged. I got engaged.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting married September. I what else is now? Got

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<v Speaker 2>a house, watching love on the spectrum. Everything's going great, man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a wonderful goddamn. Yeah, you sound like life is

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<v Speaker 1>going good. I talk a lot about real jobs on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. EMT is such a super real job. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like such a necessary thing. Although are you Are you worried?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I don't know why. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to the negative here, but are you worried about seeing

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up shit as an EMT?

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<v Speaker 2>So so somewhat. I mean, I guess I'll cross that

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<v Speaker 2>bridge when I get to it. But I had bride alongs.

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<v Speaker 2>I had four ride alongs, and both honestly weren't that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw her shooting. I well, I didn't see him

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<v Speaker 2>get sat but he got shot in the leg. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>got like cut up in his stomach. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I reacted signed to that. I do have

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<v Speaker 2>a funny story though. So I was nervous on my

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<v Speaker 2>first ride along and they were like, oh, give her

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<v Speaker 2>some aspirin and I was like, okay, cool. So I

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<v Speaker 2>had like four like little little pills of aspirin and

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<v Speaker 2>she had a free hand and I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why I did this, but I won by one

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of popped the pills in her mouth. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like one and two and three, and uh just

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<v Speaker 2>I was like that was weird. I did it in

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<v Speaker 2>front of like four paramedics and they just all just

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<v Speaker 2>I popped up and they all looked at me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, that was something weird I did.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't, they didn't call me on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just counting the pills while you were popping them in

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<v Speaker 1>her mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. And then I looked at her and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I guess swallow no, please.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's not that weird, right, I mean, someone's

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<v Speaker 1>got to keep track of how many pills we're going

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<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean I could have handed it to

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<v Speaker 2>her in her.

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<v Speaker 1>Hand, oh, instead of pop popping it in her mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a little odd.

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<v Speaker 1>How old.

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<v Speaker 2>She was, like sixty sixty? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right? You know, madam, maybe maybe maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she maybe was helpful. I don't know, maybe it made

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<v Speaker 1>her feel so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was it something you wanted to talk specifically about?

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<v Speaker 2>I sent a few texts over Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, man. Let's see, well you sent me a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things. I think you sent me something about how

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<v Speaker 1>you moved in with this lady after two months of

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<v Speaker 1>knowing her, and now you guys are engaged. That's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear your story. You sound like you

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<v Speaker 1>have like a pretty cool, stable, good life. You seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a good member of society, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your tale.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd try to be so. Yeah. We met off tender

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<v Speaker 2>of all places. So whoever says you can't find love's

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<v Speaker 2>off timber. You just got to look hard. But we

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<v Speaker 2>my lease was coming up, and we were just riding

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<v Speaker 2>around in the car. About a month into knowing each other.

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<v Speaker 2>We barely even said hey, we're boyfriend and girlfriend. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think we said that we were boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and girlfriend and we uh. She was just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>your least is coming up. I kind of want to

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<v Speaker 2>move out of my parents. How how about we move

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<v Speaker 2>into a two bedroom apartment house type deal. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds that sounds pretty sick, man. And ever since that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just been been pretty good. We uh, it's been amazing. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>we got we got three cats, two ferrets. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>within like four months after that, I I bought an

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<v Speaker 2>engagement ring and re enacted like our first date. Our

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<v Speaker 2>first date was an escape room and we did not

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<v Speaker 2>pass it. So I I hid the ring in like

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the escape room, and I made sure

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<v Speaker 2>that we would actually pass it this time. I ran

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<v Speaker 2>through the whole escape room with the escape room people

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<v Speaker 2>and popped the question there. And ever since then, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just been it's been going great. We we got invitations, ready,

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<v Speaker 2>we got we got a whole we got a whole

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<v Speaker 2>little life here. And ever so, I don't think we

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<v Speaker 2>ever had like one fight. We haven't even had a

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<v Speaker 2>fight yet. We're going on two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's awesome. How soon? How long? Ago was this

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<v Speaker 1>like like moving into getting engaged. How long was that?

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<v Speaker 2>About four months? Five months or so? Actually my anniversary

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<v Speaker 2>present for her was to go see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there's no ship really yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was in it was in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh which was it? Twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>The one that just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool before I think cool? Helly did? Did did

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<v Speaker 1>she have fun?

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<v Speaker 2>You had a great time? Yeah? Yeah. I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>get her to send a message, but see uh yeah

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<v Speaker 2>see the little stage fright. I wanted to definitely go

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<v Speaker 2>on stage. But it was an interesting show. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a good time there.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck yeah, fuck yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially the second guy that popped up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, who was who was the second guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this the guy who talked about like how slavery

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<v Speaker 1>is good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he got into a fight with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>across the stadium and was just like, uh something about

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not on drugs, and he was clearly like

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<v Speaker 2>his friends were holding him back. Yeah I don't, ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, no yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah no. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>look that's at the therapy Gecko. Live shows characters do

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<v Speaker 1>make make appearances, you know, that's I guess that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the it's part of the shindig. But no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking that's fucking sweet man, that's fucking sweet. Well, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. I always feel like I learn a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about love through this uh podcast, because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different stories and a lot of different timelines that

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<v Speaker 1>people have with each other. How old are you, guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? She just had a birthday yesterday. She's twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, fuck, you guys are young.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we moved in and we were like twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fuck, everything's going good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everything's going good. Honestly, Without her, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if my relationship with my mom would be as good

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<v Speaker 2>as it is. I I have a lot of so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how deep I should get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>But she, uh, my mom came down because I lived

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<v Speaker 2>states away and my mom came down to come see me,

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<v Speaker 2>and she I wanted to bring my fiance with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I really, I would really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>it if you come see me. She took if you

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<v Speaker 2>came with me to come see her. She took off

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days of work, so that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be alone because I have I haven't seen my mom

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<v Speaker 2>in like eight years, and I only talked to her

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<v Speaker 2>like a year before that, So it was, I will

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<v Speaker 2>I owe a lot to her. She's she's an amazing person.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I got a a younger brother and

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<v Speaker 2>a younger sister, so I I definitely owe a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to uh my fiance.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. How was it reconnecting with your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>So honestly, it was, I was. I was oddly calm

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<v Speaker 2>up into because we planned to come see each other. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>like a month before. She was like, oh, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to Is that okay if I come see you? And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, of course, of course. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>oddly calmed the whole way. And then like immediately when

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<v Speaker 2>I was there, it was like I felt my hands shaking.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was definitely weird. Definitely had some uh

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<v Speaker 2>some emotions turning. That was it was. It was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a little hard because we didn't end on on very

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<v Speaker 2>good terms and we're working on it. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like getting to know your parents. It's getting it's like

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<v Speaker 2>getting to know a stranger, which is weird, right because

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen her since I was like sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she just drops that I have a whole sibling

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole she has a whole life, and she

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<v Speaker 2>she's like talking about stuff that I knew back when

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<v Speaker 2>I was like sixteen, Like she's like, oh, do you

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<v Speaker 2>still like The Walking Dead? And I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really no, because I haven't. I haven't seen that selling years.

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<v Speaker 2>So right, it's it's it's a little hard, but it's, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're we're we're getting there. We're getting to uh as

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<v Speaker 2>long as she supports me. She actually just sent my

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<v Speaker 2>financial cupcakes for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Birthday, so that's nice. So did you just have the

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<v Speaker 1>one kind of meeting with her or have you been

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<v Speaker 1>recurringly seeing her.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be seeing her on my wedding, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>nervous about that because she doesn't really get along with

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. So it's, uh, it's it's definitely hard because

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't know how to bring it up to

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<v Speaker 2>my dad, and I think a part of me is

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<v Speaker 2>nervous that my dad would be almost upset that I

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<v Speaker 2>know her again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still I'm close.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still close with my dad. But I I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>me getting very sometimes I want to impress him too much,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just don't know how to bring it up

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<v Speaker 2>to my dad that hey, the your ex wife is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be there that you thought I didn't talk to.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just I need to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 2>bring that up as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you are you looking forward to having your

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<v Speaker 1>mom at your wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, she's going to be She's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>super proud. I'm looking forward to both of them being there.

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<v Speaker 2>I just and I don't think anything will happen. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm not entirely sure why I'm nervous, except like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think any drama is going to pop off.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think any uh. I don't think anybody is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get into a fight or to talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I want I want everybody to be as comfortable as

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<v Speaker 2>they can. And I don't know, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It's just it's it's weird too explain, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's hard. But I'm definitely looking forward to all

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<v Speaker 2>all people being there.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Do you uh you know, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get as deep or not deep into this

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<v Speaker 1>as you uh want to you know, we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about any number of things, but you know, is there

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<v Speaker 1>is there is there a reason why you stopped talking

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<v Speaker 1>to her like eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>She she said that she didn't want to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>me basically, see that there was a really messy, uh

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<v Speaker 2>divorce with my dad and really the whole family. But uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just it was just really it was just

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<v Speaker 2>really messy. She just I just you just said she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really want to talk to me, so I just.

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<v Speaker 4>I let it be.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she said she wanted to but I was

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<v Speaker 2>I was too hurt to obviously say, hey, yeah that

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<v Speaker 2>that that stuff never happened, what happened, what what you

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<v Speaker 2>said before never happened? You know, mm hmmm mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I'm I'm working past it. She's she's

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely working, she's genuinely trying, and she's one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent like she was already a good mom, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that just she had she had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff on her plate. And I'm not taking anything

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<v Speaker 2>personally from what she said. It did well what anybody

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<v Speaker 2>said or did, But.

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<v Speaker 1>What is uh, what's the deal with your You said

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of siblings. What is their deal

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<v Speaker 1>are they? Are they cool with your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, so my my younger brother, he uh, he

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<v Speaker 2>saw her for the first time with me too. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, in I went and I went to

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<v Speaker 2>go see her, but I am and if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go see her, because he was down here

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of days, I was like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go see her. If you don't want to,

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<v Speaker 2>it's totally okay, but I'll be right there with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And he I only have like the one biological sibling.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he's he's working his way there. He's he's

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<v Speaker 2>not as far as me because I don't I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he can. I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what the right word is. But he's not as

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he's just not as as far as me

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<v Speaker 2>as like and like forgiving or understanding. But he might

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<v Speaker 2>be who knows. He's he's a he's a hard book

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<v Speaker 2>to read sometimes, but yeah, he uh, he's he's becoming

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<v Speaker 2>cool with her too. Really likes my uh, my younger sibling.

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<v Speaker 2>We went had a good time there.

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<v Speaker 1>But and so this is this is a half sibling,

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<v Speaker 1>like your mom went and had someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well she adopted.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, is your mom is around with someone new?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, do you like him? And do you

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<v Speaker 1>like uh their adopted kid? Like have you have you

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<v Speaker 1>chilled with them?

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<v Speaker 2>Adopted to kid?

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<v Speaker 5>Was?

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty cool? He was He was a handful,

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<v Speaker 2>He was very active. He was like I think like four.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was crazy, but yeah, he he was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a fun time and her boyfriend or husband. He's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was just nervous to meet me the

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<v Speaker 2>first time because he was a he was a chatter.

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<v Speaker 2>He would you really like to talk? But I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point I was just like, okay, man, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to speak to to.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother, but yeah, he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's like you already don't really like

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<v Speaker 1>if you if your mom already feels like a stranger,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom's new boyfriend is going to feel like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why do I give a fuck about talking to this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? No? No, he was. He was cool.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a cool guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But at some point I was just like, Okay, okay, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Not You're not the main events at this table.

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<v Speaker 2>Right No. I think he just wanted to like impress

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<v Speaker 2>us or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure it was yeah, which I guess is it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>that they it's nice that they they as a couple

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<v Speaker 1>want you guys, you know, in in their life, they

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<v Speaker 1>want you to like them. I guess it's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'd rather he do that than just sit in

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<v Speaker 2>the corner on his phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Or sure yeah, yeah, I can fuck some else. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's uh. Yeah, I gotta say, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>You're twenty three, twenty twenty two. You're so god. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how this feels for you to hear, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're just you're dealing with so much like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, twenty two isn't fucking fourteen or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're dealing with so much adults shit, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like you're there, you're the real adults

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<v Speaker 1>in the room, like doingny MT shit, getting no fucking house,

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<v Speaker 1>getting married, doing the whole like you're a real you're

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<v Speaker 1>very grown up twenty two year old. You know, do

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<v Speaker 1>you how does that like? How do yeah? How does

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<v Speaker 1>that feel for you? Because I'm twenty seven, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm I'm sixteen years old?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, yeah, I don't always feel like an adult.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of sometimes feel sometimes feel like I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>behind it a little bit. But I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>everybody because I got some point like I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I joined emt too late, because some people get into

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<v Speaker 2>it when they're like eighteen nineteen. I saved up so

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<v Speaker 2>I co go to school because I was living on

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<v Speaker 2>my own. I'm like, oh, I'm a little bit behind

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<v Speaker 2>on that, or like, oh, I'm buying fucking Pokemon cards

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm twenty two years old. It's sometimes I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm behind, but then sometimes I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit ahead of the curves. But I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>I trust me, there are many men in their thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>forties and beyond who are who are also buying Pokemon cards.

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<v Speaker 2>I know those scalpies are crazy nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I got I got a lot of uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of respect for you, brother, You're me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's the thing is all this stuff

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.199
<v Speaker 1>is hard now. But I just have a feeling for

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<v Speaker 1>you that, like, I don't know, you're gonna life's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>continue to be good for you just because you're fucking

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Not insane what I try to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Well, let's see, man, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>texted me a bunch of other stuff. Maybe I could

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:35.159
<v Speaker 1>get into that. You said, Well, you just texted me

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm playing WE Sports right now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you have anything to say about that. You texted

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<v Speaker 1>me that over a year ago. I'm just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>all now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I was. I remember that day. We

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<v Speaker 2>already eating brownies and we were playing these sports. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, hey, man, Gek is Gek is

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<v Speaker 2>streaming right now. I need to try to get on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know, I know what else to say. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, we sports man, what's your favorite sport?

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Probably uh bowling, because it is I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is the easiest. It's probably the most stationary of all

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<v Speaker 1>the WE sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Bowling's good? Oh good? I like Uh. I like golf.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of stuff to do in golf. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have the little uh plastic attachments that

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<v Speaker 1>you put on the Wii for the WE Sports and

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I used it once and then they went.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're in a in a landfill somewhere. What's your

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>name again?

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:45.679
<v Speaker 2>My name is?

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Cody, Cody, Cody, is is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>else you want to say to the people of the

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<v Speaker 1>computer before we go, or anything else you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>Not not too not too much? Man. H Yeah, you're invited.

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<v Speaker 2>You're invited to the wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Where?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina? Oh Man? When is Yeah? Free pizza September September.

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<v Speaker 1>If I I I truly hate making promises that I

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>can't keep so about, I'll make you this. I'll make

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<v Speaker 1>you this promise if for some reason I happen to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Charlotte, for some other reason that the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>that you're having your wedding, I'll have one hundred go.

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<v Speaker 1>If I have some other reason that I am there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go the wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd love to have you there. Free pizza and beer

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 2>and wine for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, all right? Where's it from? Where you get

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>it from?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like this, like homemade pizza place, low Ki, It's

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<v Speaker 2>like five minutes down the street somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Are getting married, mazeletove to you, Cody. You got a

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<v Speaker 1>good life, dot don't yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Be uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're at peace. I hope you're at peace.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve some fun. You deserve some motherfucking piece. You

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>got a peaceful life, my friend. I'll I'll talk to

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you again around the universe, dude.

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll see you man do some more stand up. I

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:31.719
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well wait you were oh wait just oh at

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Yeah, I'm planning to do. I've been going

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to fucking open mics and stuff. That's been fun. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Take care man, you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>What a sweet fucking guy. This happens on the show

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Dude. I'll meet like a twenty one,

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>twenty two year old, twenty year old calls in and

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>they're just like their fucking whole all their shit is

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<v Speaker 1>so is so uh to get there. You know, it's fascinating.

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating because I'm always I don't know, I always

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>bring it back to myself, but I'm like always on

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the I think I do it in my regular life,

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>but I also do it on this show. Is like,

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're I think on like a journey

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>for peace or a journey for like the life. Life

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really come with a handbook or anything, so he

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 1>just look at what other people do with their lives

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, did that Is that a way to

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>get peace? You know? And I don't know. I liked

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I liked Cody a lot. He's you know, he had

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>a job that means something. He seems to be in

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>a nice relationship. You see. He seemed calm when I

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>talked to him, And that's a difficult it's achieving piece,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I think is difficult. So I'm happy for him. And

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>if if I have some other I'm not. I'm not

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna go to Charlotte just for his wedding. I'm I'm

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go just for his wedding. But

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>if I if, if I if there's two weddings going

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>on in Charlotte, maybe I'll go. I need I need

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>a If anyone has a second thing, it's really compelling

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>for me to go to Charlotte in September, maybe I'll

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>do it. I want to go back there for a

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>live show. I love the comedy club there, the Charlotte

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Comedies on that place is awesome. I've had great, great

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>fun shows there. But yeah, shout out Cody Mazeltov. Hello,

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>how are you?

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? How are you? Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I can hear you. What's up man? What's your name?

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>My name's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy. That's a good name. What's up, crazy? Why are

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you crazy?

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh? That that's a that's my artist name. Uh, it's

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 6>my rap name. And uh it's just uh it's because

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 6>I think that crazy it gets a bad rep.

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<v Speaker 4>Like.

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 6>Uh, so I'm trying to represent and uplift the name crazy.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Hmm. Do you do you feel as though you are crazy?

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 6>Oh? I mean people have called me crazy before, but

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 6>I think that crazy is such a like it's such

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 6>like a broad term. So yeah, I would categoryize myself

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 6>as crazy, but I think that any like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I've never really met somebody who I don't think is

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<v Speaker 6>crazy unless they're like super boring.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, you and I are are built of the same Uh,

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:41.239
<v Speaker 1>we're cut from the same cloth. I was in a

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>car with my best friend the other day and he

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>was telling me about like, uh, he was like, you

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>think everyone is crazy. You've gone on so many rants

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>about how all things are crazy, all people are crazy.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>You talk about how you don't shut the fuck up,

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>about how life is crazy, and it's it's true. I

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>am so with you. I feel like I've found a

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>kindred spirit in you crazy because I'm I'm with you.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, uh, life is I try not to think.

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not think about it less because I don't

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>think it's fun to think about you know, as your

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>default way of thinking. But yeah, life is crazy. Everybody

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>is crazy, Consciousness is crazy, all people every Yeah, I'm

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>with you, I'm with you crazy, everything's crazy. Thank you, finally,

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>finally a god. I am so happy and excited to

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>talk to you crazy because for a while, for a

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>for a while crazy. I'm telling you, Yeah, I thought

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I was crazy for thinking that everything was crazy. And

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>here you are crazy and you're like, yeah, no, everything

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>is crazy. You're I feel very validated by you crazy.

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's talk about things being crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, let's let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, I've been. I've been. I've been a fan

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 6>of your your stumper like a little bit. Now. I

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 6>just I just started watching it randomly. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 6>See people calling, Yeah, I mean I'm down. I'm definitely

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 6>down to talk with you.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, basically, I'm just I'm just calling because I've moved

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 6>to La like about a year ago to pursue music.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 6>And I'm just kind of at like a like a

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 6>turning point in my life because I've just messed up

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 6>my leg, and uh so I can't work right now.

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<v Speaker 6>And well, I mean I'm trying to get jobs where

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 6>I can work with a mess up leg. But yeah, basically,

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 6>like I'm like debating whether or not I should just

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 6>like take out a bunch of student loans and live

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 6>off those or or just like give up. I don't know,

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 6>but I don't know. Yeah, that's or just try and

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 6>make it happen some other way. I guess those are

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 6>like my three options.

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, sorry, I I I want let me let me

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>backtrack here. Your three options recount them again? Is to

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>take out student loans to go to a school, or

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<v Speaker 1>to just take out long.

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah yeah, to to go to school, go to

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 6>school to do what? Audio production?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>What are the other ones?

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<v Speaker 6>The other one is I give up and fly back home?

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, live in Okay? Is living intent option three? Or

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>if you went back home, you'd live in a Yeah,

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I live in Okay. Are Are you serious about living

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>in a tent or do you have like family you

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>could go back home with?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm serious about living a tent because like, if

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 6>I went back home, I'd be living in a tent

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 6>on my my dad's er.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:42.959
<v Speaker 1>Your dad would let you live. Your dad would let

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you live in the in like the house part of

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the property.

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't, he doesn't have a house. He just has lands.

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Where does he live?

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 6>Uh, he lives with a roommate right now, But he's

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 6>trying to he's trying to make it happen in like

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 6>a van and build back a shack up there.

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, cool? All right, so you would live in

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a tent, and then what's option three?

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<v Speaker 6>Option three is just try and just try and hope

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 6>for the best with what I'm already doing, just trying

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 6>to like make money do jobs. And then like I

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 6>started a studio at my house is called a fuck

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 6>around and find out studio. And I'm only charging people

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 6>twenty five an hour to record songs. And I've been

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 6>doing this for like ten years recording, so I'm like

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 6>confident in my skills as like a recording engineer, but

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 6>I still need to work on mixing and mastering. That's

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 6>why I want to go to school for audio profession.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh kah, So you've been doing this for ten years

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<v Speaker 1>in this, and where where is home for you? Like

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>what state?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Hawaii?

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Hawaii? Oh cool? Okay, And so you have like the

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>past ten years, have you been in LA or have

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you been in Hawaii? Because you still me just moved

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah?

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>So so I just got here to LA on April

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 6>fool Day last year, well technically April second, but my

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 6>I moved into my new spot. Yeah, it was like, yeah,

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:17.280
<v Speaker 6>it's basically been April second because I missed the greyhound

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 6>I caught like a greyhound from Seattle because me and

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 6>my friends moved from Seattle. I only lived in Seattle

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 6>for like four months ago.

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>So when you say you've been doing this for ten years,

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>like you've been doing it on your laptop for ten

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>years doing like Mexican Master and shit.

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah yeah at least eight eight seriously, but around ten?

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 1>And why did you go to.

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 6>LA to make music? There's like a lot of opportunities

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 6>to make music here. There's a lot of creative people here.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 6>It just feels like a place that I fit in

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 6>more than in Hawaii.

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you I mean you like being there?

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So option one is to take a bunch of

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>student loans and go to music school in la Option

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>two is to go live in a tent in Hawaii.

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Option three is to keep doing what you're doing right now,

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>which tell me again what that looks like.

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 6>What that looks like is hoping that my knee recovers quickly,

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 6>signing up for more jobs, and trying to freelance a

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:36.399
<v Speaker 6>studio business.

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Out of my house.

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Can't you just okay? I have a few questions about

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>your options, right is like, okay, Well, number one with

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the school thing is like, you know more about this

0:35:54.920 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>industry than than I do. But is there anything, uh

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in the universe of music production that you can't just

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>fucking oh, there's a fire truck on Is there anything

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>in the world of music production that you can't just learn?

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're in a We're in a song

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 1>right now that has the police sirens in the background.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying?

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 6>Okay, sorry, No, you're good, you got that's just my house.

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was okay, sorry, I was gonna say, why

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>can't okay, why can't you just learn this on the internet?

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Why do you have to spend a billion dollars to.

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 6>School, because well, I can learn it on the internet.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 2>To a degree.

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 6>It's just that I'm I'm limited by the type of

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 6>equipment that I can use. So you know, I have

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 6>like an okay setup, but if I went to school,

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 6>then I could learn how to use like a million

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 6>dollars uh like equipment.

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's your ultimate like goal? Is it to like,

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do like your own artist project

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>or you want to be a producer for other people?

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 6>Well, I want to make music and I want to

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 6>be a recording engineer for other people.

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you think that how much would it cost

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>for you to go to school? Oh?

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 6>Man, it's like eighty eight thousand, but I could probably

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 6>get some like student aids.

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, I'm not a bit I've gone on

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>this rant on this show a billion times, but like

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a huge fan of like going eighty eight

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars into debt for you know, like something that's

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>not like a hot guarantee. You know, I'm not if

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you were to tell me, like, yeah, I'm investing money

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>into equipment, you know, that would that would make sense?

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Or you're investing money into like online courses. But I

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>just don't think that the absolute best way to invest

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in this is like through school. I mean, I guess,

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess if I were you, you're already out in

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>LA I assume you have your cost of living as

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>low as it can go with you know, roommates and whatever.

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.280
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, I kind of screwed myself, how Yeah.

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I had to screw yourself.

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 6>Well, I signed a year lease and then the like

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 6>literally the day before uh my like whole year started

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 6>for the least, or like two days before, I really

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 6>messed up my leg. Uh it's like my knee, it

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 6>was all messed up.

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Why did that screw Why did that screw you in

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 1>your living situation?

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 6>Well, because now I don't have the three jobs that

0:38:59.239 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 6>I had anymore.

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean I technically still have two of them, but

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 6>they're just I just have to figure out how I

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 6>can go back to them, and yeah, all that stuff.

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Mm hm.

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Hm hmmmmmmm. I don't know. Maybe I'm a boomer about

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 1>all of this, but I don't know how the music

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>industry works. It just it just seems like something that

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>has like a low barrier to entry in terms of

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:47.959
<v Speaker 1>the making of the stuff, right, Like, and I'm sure

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that Uh, DJs and music producers will get

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>furious with me for saying that, you know, just as

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>just as I I say, I say that, you know,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>you can make a great movie on your iPhone, right.

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think when it comes to wanting to be

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a producer for the people, it's like, well, well, you know,

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>make a list of the twenty fucking people that you

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>really want to do it for, or a hundred people

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you really want to do it for, and find out

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.720
<v Speaker 1>how to reach out to them and find a sample,

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>make a sample that you're really proud of. And there's

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of kind of you know whatever, hustly entrepreneury

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>ways you can go about it other than just like

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 1>going to school.

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely agree.

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 6>You know, I think you convinced me, manuck. I never

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 6>wanted to go to college genery, so yeah, you convinced me.

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm just trying to make it happen probably here. I mean,

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 6>I don't I really don't want.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 2>To go back to life.

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 6>I just don't. Yeah, oh yeah, try and make it here.

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, man, I mean I just yeah, I realized,

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 6>like when my leg got messed up like that, I

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 6>was just, uh, you know, all my jobs, like we're

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 6>almost like zero skill involved in them, unfortunately.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was I'm like a.

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 6>Delivery writer and uh I work at a grocery store

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 6>and a restaurant, and I was just like, dang, like

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 6>I just realized that like if I didn't have my leg,

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 6>like my job just doesn't give a fuck about me,

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 6>like or they just don't really have a room for me,

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 6>and like I don't know, yeah, just kind of like

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 6>well it did make me. It made me depressed, like

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 6>the first day, to be honest, I was like I

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:54.919
<v Speaker 6>was a little bit depressed. I mean the doctor asked

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 6>me if I was depressed off like no, because I

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 6>don't know. I from it like kind of quickly.

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 6>Like I just tried to catch myself. I was like

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 6>I just noticed that I was I was starting to

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 6>do like bad habits that I've like since like moved

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 6>on from in my life. And I felt like that

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 6>was like a sign to me. I was like, Okay,

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 6>like I'm feeling a little bit depressed because yeah, I

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 6>was just bummed out because like I wasn't really even

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 6>appreciating my life. And I didn't even tell you the

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 6>worst part, man, I don't even tell you like how

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 6>I messed up my leg. Man, that's like the most

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 6>embarrassing part. Well, I messed up my leg because I

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 6>went to this concert. It was like a NASCAR a concert,

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 6>so it was like chat metal music and metal music,

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 6>and I was like dancing in the mastrap for like

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 6>the whole night. But then once nascar Al comes in

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 6>because he was the headliner, he was the last artist.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 6>He started playing his song move to Moved to America,

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 6>and and when he was playing that song, they they

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 6>messed up my leg pretty bad.

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 6>The mosh pit, yeah, yeah, I got distracted because I

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 6>was just busney dancing, like I don't even like mash

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 6>in the moshpit. I just was like dancing and dodging people.

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 6>But I got distracted because nascar Ala was going going

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 6>off and then oh my leg just got messed up.

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean yeah, the mosh pit is a bit

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of a fuck around and find out kind of place.

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's why I named my studio that.

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh you named your studio the mash pit.

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 6>I named my studio fuck around and find out studio.

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>That's fun. I yeah, dude, some people I was I

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know why, but I was at a like as

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 1>was four months ago. I was at a punk show

0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore with my friends and and I hadn't been

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>to like something like that in a long time. And

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 1>the mosh pit is crazy. People are doing full three

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>sixty degree wheels with both arms, just like beating, just

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>just a tornado of fists, and they're running all around.

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>It is. It is.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>An orgy of kinetic energy and violence. It is a

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. It's fun to go near, but you don't.

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:32.839
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to toe the line because you will

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>get punched in the fucking face. Unapologetically.

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, luckily I didn't get punched in the face.

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was thankful for.

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 6>But I did get either kicked or just upper cut

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 6>it in the nme and the doctor said I might

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 6>have torn my miniscu.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know what's your name again?

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 4>I try to too crazy?

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Crazy all right? Of course, how could I forget crazy? Okay?

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 1>A couple of things. One is, you know, if if

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you decide you don't want to go to college and

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to save the money, you know, I think

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. If you have to go back to well, yeah,

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have any if you don't have any money.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to have negative money, you know, with debt.

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I guess that's true.

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think, yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's the

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>If you're going to go into debt, I think it

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:40.479
<v Speaker 1>should be for a real, real, fucking good reason. But also,

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>but like, look, man, here's a if you have to

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 1>go back and live in the tent in Hawaii, don't uh,

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>don't consider the dream dead.

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Look, look here, here's something. Here's what I'm saying. I

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think you're gonna have to go back to the tent.

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're gonna have to go back to

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the tent. I think you can make it in Los Angeles.

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I think you can. I'm holding out for you to

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>hold out. But if you're looking around and you're just

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 1>financially leg lee whatever, you got to go back and

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.879
<v Speaker 1>live in the tent for a second. It's not over.

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>If you have to go live in the tent, you

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>can make music and be around other creative people making

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>things in really any major city in the world and

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 1>just on or just fucking you know, in the world

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>we live in on the fucking computer, so you know what,

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 1>you can twitch, stream you can twitch stream sets from

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the fucking tent. You know, there's ways to do all this,

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>So just I encourage you to just, I guess, try

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.399
<v Speaker 1>to be creative and trying not to count yourself out,

0:46:55.680 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know, keep keep doing your shit. Crazy. You're

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you're you're fucking crazy. I'm crazy. Everything's everything's fucking crazy.

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm crazy, all right, And and uh yeah,

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean yeah, I mean that that was mostly, uh

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 6>mostly the reason called I'm gonna have it like a

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 6>house warming party to night. But yeah, it's just like

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 6>it's just it's just nerve wracking and stuff. But I

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 6>mean I think that I think I'll make it too.

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 6>My friend he moved out here too. He's like he

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 6>just like doubled his rent and stuff. But I don't know,

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm not gonna put his information out too much.

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.839
<v Speaker 1>You're having you're having a house party tonight.

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 6>Housewarming party. Yeah, but it's just two of my friends.

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:45.280
<v Speaker 6>It's not really a party.

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>That's fucking fun. Man, got to have fun, don't. Well

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 1>look whatever, here's the thing. Uh, worry and stressed and

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.399
<v Speaker 1>be out, I mean worry and stress out during the day,

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>but once it hits around seven PM, just clock out

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and hang out with your friends, because you know that's

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the only fucking real thing.

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right man. Well yeah, man, yeah,

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 6>uh that's definitely been helpful and and and yeah, like

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.839
<v Speaker 6>uhh yeah, man, appreciate your help.

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:19.879
<v Speaker 1>You want to plug, you can plug if you want.

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear your ship.

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean it's just uh, it's crazy spelt like k

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 6>r a y e.

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Z y o k r a.

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Y e y z Oh, cray cray easy.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, some people say cray easy.

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Cray easy. Why yeah, yeah, Like what do

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you want? R A y is your name? Okay? You're okay,

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:53.800
<v Speaker 1>you're Kyle? Is that you?

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, well you're on Instagram or somewhere?

0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Oh is that?

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Should we not? Is that bad to have?

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 6>Oh no, no, it's fine. I mean I don't really

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:05.879
<v Speaker 6>care that people.

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't really Oh no, I'm just looking for it.

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I was just like, what are you okay?

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm on your okay? SoundCloud? Is that where you have

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>most of your ship? I mean you have one you

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 1>have one song. You have one song. Listen to it.

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not gonna be able to play on

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'll just live reaction listen to it.

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:28.800
<v Speaker 6>Oh, thanks man, Yeah.

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, this is Cray all right. If the people

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>at home want to listen to this, this is Cray easy.

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>The song is antiseptic, so you can probably find it

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>on his if you can find it if you go

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>on the internet. All right, I'm gonna blind listen to this.

0:49:49.000 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well crazy, Yeah, I like it, thanks.

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, for sure, I like. I think people check

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it out. I just realized that I wasn't. I just

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>realized that if I can't put it on the podcast,

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be staring standing there in silence.

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 6>For oh yeah, yeah, that would be awkward twenty seconds.

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't want to talk over it. But uh,

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like, I'm not I'm not Anthony

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Fantana or anything, but I I uh uh I like.

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I like.

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely crazy. I sound like I sound like I'm

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to come up with something nice to say, but

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely do. I genuinely do like it.

0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 6>No, no, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying you tell me

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:58.240
<v Speaker 6>of treasure.

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll tell you if it's if it's trash.

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 6>If it was trash, then i'd be I'd be on

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 6>the plane back to the wife.

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Probably.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 6>No, I'm just kidding.

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:09.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 6>I don't take one person's opinion that seriously. But like,

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 6>if enough people convince me that it's trash, then like,

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I guess I'm like, I'm still gonna make music,

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 6>but I'm probably not gonna try and like make it

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:25.399
<v Speaker 6>in a major city because it's a little bit tough.

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, you know what, I screw other people.

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't.

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 6>I don't care what other people think of should but

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:36.440
<v Speaker 6>it does make it easier if people are like, Okay, yeah,

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 6>you're going in the right direction. Like, I respect everybody's opinion,

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 6>but I don't think that I should let it affect

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:42.800
<v Speaker 6>my actions.

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, uh, getting validation on your life?

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 1>You know what the scariest fucking thing about uh being

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>like an adult with free will is is that no

0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>one can really give you some sort of final validation

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 1>on any of your life choices.

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 6>No, yeah, that's true, that's true.

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 3>It's what it is.

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:16.840
<v Speaker 1>It is one of the uh most terrifying parts of

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>being being an adult. But but you know what it's

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that's it's a tax on having the freedom to make

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>those decisions. But anyway, crazy, is there anything else you

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:28.919
<v Speaker 1>want to say to the people of the computer before

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>we go?

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.280
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah, okay, So to the people of the computer,

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:37.360
<v Speaker 6>I just want to say that, you know, always love yourself,

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 6>always stay positive no matter Oh and well, I mean

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 6>I would just say to all the atheists out there,

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:49.759
<v Speaker 6>I would just say, reconsider.

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:53.399
<v Speaker 1>That you're a man. You're a man of God.

0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 6>I believe in a higher power.

0:52:57.320 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believe.

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I believe in like, uh, Christianity

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 1>so much, but uh, I think a higher power. I'm

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>starting to I'm starting to kind of think there's gotta

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.360
<v Speaker 1>be uh some I don't know if I don't know

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>about Jesus, but there's almost certainly some form of higher

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>consciousness or something like that.

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 4>I respect that.

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 6>I respect that.

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:27.800
<v Speaker 6>That's why I like, I'm not hating on the atheist

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:30.360
<v Speaker 6>out there. I'm just I'm just asking them to to

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 6>maybe reconsider, because you know, why why commit to to

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:42.280
<v Speaker 6>not believing and on afterlife or and you know, anything

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:43.800
<v Speaker 6>greater than this world.

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I don't know.

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes like, uh, if you get super depressing, if you

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 6>think like, oh, yeah, this is it, this is the

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 6>this is the meaning of it all. We're just you know,

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 6>here doing this because like, uh, I mean at the

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 6>same time though, I mean, while you're here on earth,

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 6>I think that uh, spreading positivity is the best thing

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 6>that we can do because we can, we can list

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 6>everybody around us up and we can give other people

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 6>the motivation to chase their dreams. Uh if we just

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.440
<v Speaker 6>uh yeah, if we just don't give up on ourselves

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 6>then if we if we don't do things that because

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.840
<v Speaker 6>I feel like everybody has the conscious and like sometimes

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.839
<v Speaker 6>you ignore your conscious and and that's when, uh, that's

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 6>when you start taking negatively at those times.

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Uh crazy, Thanks for calling, and good luck on your journey. Brother.

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 6>Thanks, well, it's super good talking with you. And yes,

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:40.840
<v Speaker 6>stay stay crazy, bro.

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully hopefully I'll be less crazy next time you talk

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>to me. But you you you stay crazy to you

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>stay crazy too.

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm gonna be crazy and then I'm gonna be

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 6>a little crazy eventually, because yeah, I feel like, yeah,

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:00.560
<v Speaker 6>but you'll yeah.

0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 1>You'll be you'll be a little crazy. You'll be a

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>little crazy because you're a little less crazy, all right. See,

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you're crazy fuck. I hung up on him, but I

0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't ware to hang up on him. A conversation was over.

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I liked that guy a lot, I really did. I

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>liked that guy a lot.

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 1>He was talking about, well, okay, what is an atheist?

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna actually google this. A theist definition A person

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>who lacks belief in the existence of God. But what, like,

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>what is God? God is like a supreme being, creator,

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 1>principal object of faith? Yeah, I think like the concept

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of like God is like, uh, A is sort of

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 1>like there's a supreme being who is like and like

0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and like existence is is a monarchy ruled by God.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't think I believe in that,

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:15.400
<v Speaker 1>but uh, there's gotta be some kind of higher power.

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking a lot about like. I'm sure I've

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>talked about this on the fucking podcast before, but I

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 1>have to think it a lot about just like WHOA,

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 1>what we are all experiencing is quite psychedelic and bizarre

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and miraculous and beyond comprehension even if you, I guess,

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 1>even if you study stuff. Someone in the someone in

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the in the in the stream chat said you could

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 1>even say that life is crazy and that's I believe that.

0:56:58.120 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if I believe in like there

0:56:59.880 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>is a God and he is watching and all that,

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:07.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jesus and stuff. But uh, you know, when

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.280
<v Speaker 1>we die or was just when we die, it's probably

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>exactly how it was before we were born. That makes

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. But then what the fuck is

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:24.200
<v Speaker 1>our consciousness? Where does that go? Does that go anywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know what. Look I also

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<v Speaker 1>will also also you know what I was, I'm gonna

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm gonna keep going on this rant because

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm enjoying it, like.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever.

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh Like, sometimes you'll be walking and you'll see someone

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they're like, I don't Like I'll be in

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 1>New York and I'll see somebody like sleeping on the street,

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'll just be like, there's no like, tell me

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 1>if this makes sense to folks. There's no real reason

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:12.479
<v Speaker 1>at all whatsoever why I am me and that guy

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 1>is him. There's no real reason, you know. I mean

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 1>people make arguments about like, you know, making different choices

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and people make and you know, but but yeah, yeah,

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 1>this is the thing. You grow up in different circumstances

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that are completely utterly fucking random. You know, your brain chemistry,

0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>even if you and someone else do make different decisions,

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>your brain chemistry is completely fucking random.

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:53.320
<v Speaker 5>And so.

0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:59.920
<v Speaker 1>The reason, so the reason why you make the decision

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that you make is completely random. Like it's just so rare.

0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>There's no fucking reason why I am me and anyone

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 1>else is anyone else? There's no I can't like you.

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And again, you sure, at a certain point you can

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 1>argue it's like I had I intrinsically made different decisions,

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 1>but there's but what is it in my head that

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:29.600
<v Speaker 1>causes me to make decisions that negatively impact my life

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 1>or positively impact my life? And I'm not talking about

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:36.720
<v Speaker 1>specifically me? And it's like, yeah, it's a fucking singularity.

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:44.040
<v Speaker 1>We're all one. So I think that is God. That's

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of God to me in a sense. Is answering

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that question, why is anyone who they are? Why am

0:59:56.200 --> 1:00:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I me random? I'm so I'm I'm myself so randomly

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<v Speaker 1>it's insane. There's no fucking reason why I am I

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<v Speaker 1>am me and anyone else is who they are? Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I not a fucking dog?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>I think about this too much?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, anyway I got. Yeah, that's my god. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's it. I'm gonna stop rantic about this

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna stop parrantic about this because I missed that.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed the times in my life where I just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking played Super Mario and I didn't think about any

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<v Speaker 1>of this shit. I'm glad I do think about this

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<v Speaker 1>shit sometimes. I think if I went through this, this

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<v Speaker 1>ride of life and I never thought about any of

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<v Speaker 1>this shit once, I'd probably have an awesome time. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably have so much more fun. But whatever, I am,

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<v Speaker 1>who I am, this is these thoughts come into my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>I accept it. It could be worse, all right, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep going. Hello, Hi, what is your name?

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<v Speaker 4>No way, dude, lyle my name? Oh my gosh, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>my name is Lufa. Let's go with Lufa.

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<v Speaker 1>Lufah, good to talk to you, Lufa. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing this evening.

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<v Speaker 4>It's good to talk to you, man. I'm I'm doing

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<v Speaker 4>all right. Uh. Just got home from work, had some

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<v Speaker 4>Chinese food. I was about to go ride my bike

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<v Speaker 4>to get my car fixed, and I saw that you're streaming,

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<v Speaker 4>so I thought i'd hit you up.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's super cool to be on. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 4>sen for a for a hot minute and uh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's cool to catch you. How are you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Uh, I'm not just saying this, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing better now that I'm here recording. Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>idle hands are are? They belong to the devil? The

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<v Speaker 1>devil uses idle hands two to jerk him off and

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<v Speaker 1>come devil fire on your face. That wasn't that funny?

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<v Speaker 1>But I tried. You sound like you're having a chill night.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a chill night. You're getting Chinese food and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna ride a bike.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the plan.

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<v Speaker 4>I am gonna ride a bike. Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know the chill guy meme like with the like

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<v Speaker 1>dog with yeah, with the dog with hands. That's who

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine you as. Are you what do you identify

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<v Speaker 1>with that?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Really no, Like, for.

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<v Speaker 4>One, typically phone calls are like horrible, Like for me personally,

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<v Speaker 4>I actually have a stutter, but right now I'm pretty fluent,

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<v Speaker 4>which is kind of funny. But yeah, like phone calls

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<v Speaker 4>for work and just even talking to like my parents

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff. Sometimes like I just like, oh no, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not very chill, but yah, yeah, yeah, but I feel

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<v Speaker 4>all right today it's Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>What about in uh real life? Are you better in

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<v Speaker 1>real life or is it? Is it just the phones.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure? Better in real life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I feel like phones like the only medium of

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<v Speaker 4>conversation is you know, voice and like audio and so

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<v Speaker 4>like every queue, like every non verbal queue that you

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<v Speaker 4>have with talking in person, it's just not there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, m hmm, Well what are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh, I know what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there anything in particular that you wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today? It's okay if notlge continue talking about nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I kind of do have something to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of like big picture in my life. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I'm just kind of out of crossroads with

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<v Speaker 4>where I want to take my life, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know or exactly to begin. I recently moved

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<v Speaker 4>to Montana, which I'm loving. It's such a cool state,

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<v Speaker 4>and I moved here to be in a smaller town

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<v Speaker 4>but also be near the mountains. But also because there's

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<v Speaker 4>a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 4>Who is Canadian. She is in Canada, and we're both

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<v Speaker 4>like in this really strong like situationship where we both

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<v Speaker 4>like really love each other, like we both like go

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<v Speaker 4>and visit each other and go on hikes and go

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<v Speaker 4>rock climbing and do all these awesome adventures together.

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<v Speaker 2>And but she's.

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<v Speaker 4>Living in a current like work living situation where she

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't want to leave and I kind of don't really

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<v Speaker 4>want to leave either to like try and get my

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<v Speaker 4>Canadian citizenship, and like at the same time, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>like this weird disconnect of poor conversation or like poor

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<v Speaker 4>communication her and I have, and I just don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if I should try and move to Canada to be

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<v Speaker 4>closer to her and like jump through all these hoops

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<v Speaker 4>to try and be with her, and you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>maybe her and I don't work out in the long run,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I'm in Canada and I don't really want

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<v Speaker 4>to be in Canada anymore, but I've like worked so

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<v Speaker 4>hard to get there. Or do I just stay here

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<v Speaker 4>and keep living separate from her and you know, keep

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<v Speaker 4>seeing each other like maybe once a month and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, yeah, yeah, So it's just kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>general broad terms of I don't know where to go

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<v Speaker 4>from here, and like, uh, like if I should be Canadian.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I should become Canadian. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you moved to Montana to be closer to this girl

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<v Speaker 1>because Montana is near Canada? Is she near Montana?

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<v Speaker 2>Ish?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yeah, We're five hours drive away from each other.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like like an hour south of the border.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like four hours north of the border.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, how can't you hang out in Canada for

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<v Speaker 1>a fair amount of time? Like don't isn't there a

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<v Speaker 1>tourist visa you can get? Same with you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>the US?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, like there is like a visa. Well there's

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<v Speaker 4>like a really expensive travel visa. I think that like

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<v Speaker 4>you can only like that's only good for like two years,

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<v Speaker 4>and after that, I think you just have to leave.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think I could like get my permanent residency

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<v Speaker 4>through my work maybe, But yeah, I guess, like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, like like one of the big like cruxes

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<v Speaker 4>of it all. And it's like I just don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if if like if I moved and you know, did

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<v Speaker 4>all this work, if she would be like like committed

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<v Speaker 4>to like stay with me, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just something that I need to talk with her about.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, how old are you guys?

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<v Speaker 4>We're both twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>And had you meet her?

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<v Speaker 4>We met hiking on the Arizona Trail in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Cool? How long have you guys known each other?

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<v Speaker 4>Like two years now? Uh so we met, yeah, in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three in the middle of the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not like a girlfriend kat with a

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<v Speaker 1>capital G.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, which is another confusing thing. Like, we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>made anything like official, but we really enjoy seeing each other,

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<v Speaker 4>Like we plan to meet each other very often, and

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<v Speaker 4>we do see each other very often, but it's nothing

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<v Speaker 4>like official, like she says, if I were to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to live with her, then we would, like she

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<v Speaker 4>would be comfortable with like being official.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you really do you really like this girl?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see a future with her?

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<v Speaker 4>I really do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we have like similar I guess. Well, for sure

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<v Speaker 4>things that we love to do. We love to be

1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:10.080
<v Speaker 4>outside and adventure together and bird watching like, but more

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<v Speaker 4>than that, like we just have similar you know, humors,

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<v Speaker 4>and just have similar values and you know, want kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the same thing out of life. So I do

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<v Speaker 4>like really love her, and she, you know, says that

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<v Speaker 4>she loves me.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it that you guys both want out of life?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess really just too have like a base camp

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere that's like in like nature, you know, not have kids,

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<v Speaker 4>but to just have some kind of base camp where we.

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<v Speaker 3>Can and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, make just enough money to have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of free time to go explore and do cool things,

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<v Speaker 4>and then to come back, you know, to our headquarters

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<v Speaker 4>and just yeah, like live life there and like do

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<v Speaker 4>it all over again, you know, go and leave for

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<v Speaker 4>six months and go like hike and explore and yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and just do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, you know, So you want to live yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>a little like six months traveling, six months hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>at your base camp.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, kind of a random segue, But I remember when

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<v Speaker 4>you and the oh my gosh, what's his name, uh

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<v Speaker 4>something Merlin, the guy that you went to Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>With, uh Jason Jason Sense Martian.

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<v Speaker 4>Martian. Yeah, I was watching y'all stream on the last

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<v Speaker 4>day of y'all walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I was the one that mentioned Heally's If you by

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<v Speaker 4>chance to.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that, I do. I vaguely remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That had nothing that had nothing to do with uh

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of our conversation, did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's totally fine. I was just making sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just making sure. I don't know if you had

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<v Speaker 1>anything else, you know, so this base can't would it

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<v Speaker 1>be in Canada?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like she's kind of turned off on the idea

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<v Speaker 4>of being American, like especially right now. But and also

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<v Speaker 4>like it'd be cool to not pay for expensive health care,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you yeah, you becoming Canadian is the better the better.

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<v Speaker 4>Deal, right yeah, Like, and mainly just not having to

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<v Speaker 4>be tied down to a job for health care, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>uh yeah, like a pretty lucrative thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so sick that they just do that. They just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to pay for health care.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, Like that sounds amazing, Like I guess there

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<v Speaker 4>are like some way that you do pay for it

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<v Speaker 4>that everybody pays for it, like your taxes, right, but

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<v Speaker 4>it it must be much cheaper than you know, getting

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<v Speaker 4>injured and breaking your leg without insurance being slapped at

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<v Speaker 4>the bill for a bajillion dollars here m.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm, I feel I feel for you on this situation, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Love is is difficult, and and making things like this

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<v Speaker 1>work is difficult, and it's and and everything you described

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like being so aligned on the future that

1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to have and everything is it sounded

1:15:37.320 --> 1:15:43.920
<v Speaker 1>really uh, really compelling and really really touching, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you're worried about going through the whole process and then

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<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't work out. Uh what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't work out?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I just feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>She, I don't know, Like, for one, we just have

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<v Speaker 4>kind of not the best like communication. Like we'll talk

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<v Speaker 4>like like I will typically bring up the fact that like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's kind of weird telling everyone that I know

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<v Speaker 4>that you're just my friend when like it's kind of obvious,

1:16:24.439 --> 1:16:29.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, like we're more than friends. Like it's uh,

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<v Speaker 4>and like you know, whenever we whenever I bring up

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<v Speaker 4>kind of that and just have try to start harder

1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:45.360
<v Speaker 4>conversations like she just kind of has no input, just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like bottles up and doesn't really want to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's hard too because I honestly don't I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>talked to anyone about this, and like it like it

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<v Speaker 4>does you know, just seem like kind of like there

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<v Speaker 4>are some general red flags and like I don't know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just had this like gut feeling of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe she might go meet someone else who you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like has a situation like her, like like where they

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<v Speaker 4>can take off months at a time, and like, you know,

1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:44.920
<v Speaker 4>she just leaves me for for them, and you know,

1:17:45.080 --> 1:17:51.240
<v Speaker 4>like her not being committed to me, like like would

1:17:51.520 --> 1:17:54.840
<v Speaker 4>seem like a validation for her to just go and

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<v Speaker 4>do that, you know, to just leave me for someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if I want to. Uh, I've

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<v Speaker 4>gone like back and forth with like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't, I don't. Yeah, there's just some other things

1:18:30.720 --> 1:18:36.719
<v Speaker 4>to it that is like we're both not proud of. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know whatever. You don't have to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, do you feel like you've expressed all

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<v Speaker 1>your honest feelings to this person?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I have not told her what I

1:19:04.880 --> 1:19:09.720
<v Speaker 4>just told you. I've not told her, but I just

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<v Speaker 4>told you.

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<v Speaker 1>What specifically, what specifically that you feel like she's the communication.

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<v Speaker 2>Is bad.

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<v Speaker 4>That and that she would just leave me for someone

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<v Speaker 4>else if she were to meet someone that she likes more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's more of like I get I'm playing complete

1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:41.720
<v Speaker 1>armchair psychologist and I'm truly, actually horrible with relationships and

1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:48.120
<v Speaker 1>relationship matters and whatnot. But just from my gut, it's like,

1:19:48.360 --> 1:19:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I do know something about that is like that's more

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<v Speaker 1>of like a insecurity I think than it is like

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<v Speaker 1>a actual like oh this this is like a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to communicate on and get an answer about,

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<v Speaker 1>right hm hm, you know, because just just saying like, oh,

1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm worried you're gonna leave me for someone else, it's like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know how she's supposed to respond.

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<v Speaker 5>To that like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But like like the thing, the thing that you said

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, hey, listen, are we you know how

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<v Speaker 1>the thing the thing where you're basically like, look, how

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<v Speaker 1>committed are you to actually fucking doing this shit? You

1:20:27.520 --> 1:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>know that that prompts a response, So I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>worth talking about whether. But yeah, the other the other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess again I'm no what what what's the fucking

1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:47.599
<v Speaker 1>lady's name who says stuff? But I'm not her? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the other one seems seems just kind of like an insecurity,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know if it needs to explicitly be

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<v Speaker 1>brought up unless if you like actively have like ever

1:20:56.200 --> 1:21:01.519
<v Speaker 1>believe that she is like cheating on you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't want to be like accusatory. You don't

1:21:04.240 --> 1:21:06.479
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be like accusatory, but you do

1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:08.519
<v Speaker 1>want to be like hey, right, you don't have you

1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:10.880
<v Speaker 1>don't to be accusatory, but you do kind of want

1:21:10.920 --> 1:21:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to be like hey, look, if we're gonna do this,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of need this. What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, that maybe the specific

1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:27.080
<v Speaker 4>thing of her being with someone else is just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a like more of like an insecurity maybe on

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<v Speaker 4>my part where it doesn't prompt like a response.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean okay, And then here's another kind of twist

1:21:47.320 --> 1:21:54.240
<v Speaker 4>to it. She definitely has been with someone else, like

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<v Speaker 4>last year, like she just like hooked up with someone

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<v Speaker 4>and she told me, and like I you know, like asked,

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<v Speaker 4>and it hurt, like and it's like a complicated thing

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<v Speaker 4>because she's like not even talking to him anymore, and.

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<v Speaker 3>And like.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like we're like I know, like we're not

1:22:31.560 --> 1:22:36.479
<v Speaker 4>like you know, officially dating, but we also you know,

1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:41.920
<v Speaker 4>like both like don't want to stop seeing each other.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. It's just like I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all very complex but but simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, now I get you on the complex

1:22:57.760 --> 1:23:01.560
<v Speaker 1>but simple, My brother, we have all been in situations

1:23:01.680 --> 1:23:06.760
<v Speaker 1>like this where we're like, yeah, this is not a

1:23:06.920 --> 1:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>movie romance. This is a fucking a formoist thing, unlabeled

1:23:14.640 --> 1:23:20.439
<v Speaker 1>and undefined, and you know, yeah, being in purgatory with

1:23:20.600 --> 1:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>someone sucks. It sucks ass, It's not fun, it's not

1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:31.920
<v Speaker 1>really fulfilling, and it's it is filled with tons of

1:23:32.479 --> 1:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>emotional drain and pain. So you know, I feel you

1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>on that, I would say again in this situation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so she hooked up with another guy, But so she

1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:47.839
<v Speaker 1>looked up with another guy because there was no formal

1:23:49.880 --> 1:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>or even informal understanding of exclusivity between the two, which

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<v Speaker 1>you do you agree upon that or is that not true?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Ther question is she hooked up with him because her

1:24:11.240 --> 1:24:15.800
<v Speaker 4>and I are not exclusive, right, like because of that?

1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Well not because of not not because but she felt

1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that it was not a problem because of that.

1:24:24.400 --> 1:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe, And like.

1:24:30.640 --> 1:24:34.360
<v Speaker 4>That's what I don't know, you know, like if she

1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:42.960
<v Speaker 4>she thought it wasn't a problem because of that, Look.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, let me ask you, because we could go in

1:24:47.160 --> 1:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>circles about this ship right is like do you what

1:24:51.520 --> 1:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>information do you need from from this lady? Or is

1:24:56.280 --> 1:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>it a matter of like what information do you need

1:24:58.479 --> 1:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>from this lady right now that you don't have?

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<v Speaker 4>I I don't know. I guess just like some kind

1:25:11.120 --> 1:25:19.360
<v Speaker 4>of like commitment that like if I were to work

1:25:19.479 --> 1:25:23.800
<v Speaker 4>towards moving to Canada and being to Canada, that she

1:25:23.880 --> 1:25:30.679
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't just like leave me for someone else.

1:25:31.080 --> 1:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, if I'm going on the fucking uh

1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:37.479
<v Speaker 1>website and I'm converting American dollars to your you know,

1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking Canada money, and I'm like submitting applications and doing

1:25:42.280 --> 1:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>papers and going to the embassy, and if I'm doing

1:25:44.800 --> 1:25:47.479
<v Speaker 1>all this shit, you are my girlfriend. I'm not doing

1:25:47.520 --> 1:25:50.880
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff for a uh you know, friends with

1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:55.519
<v Speaker 1>benefits situation. This is just seems yeah, sort of what

1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure.

1:25:58.800 --> 1:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I mean, ship brother, let me tell you.

1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I I I know that uh making these kinds of

1:26:06.800 --> 1:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>decisions and and uh identifying deal breakers is fucking really

1:26:13.080 --> 1:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>scary and hard because you're like, well, what if she

1:26:15.520 --> 1:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to do that? It's like, well, then am

1:26:18.680 --> 1:26:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I gonna have the strength to walk away. It's fucking

1:26:23.200 --> 1:26:27.120
<v Speaker 1>insanely difficult. You form a strong attachments to people and

1:26:27.560 --> 1:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and you you look back at uh you don't, you

1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:36.519
<v Speaker 1>don't really it's time you don't be alone all this stuff, Like,

1:26:38.240 --> 1:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I get it, I've been there, but a bunch of

1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:41.439
<v Speaker 1>everyone's fucking listening that's probably been there.

1:26:44.400 --> 1:26:45.360
<v Speaker 3>But uh.

1:26:47.080 --> 1:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it sounds like you know kind of

1:26:48.760 --> 1:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>what you want from this lady, and then it's just

1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>a matter of telling her, seeing how she responds, and

1:26:56.360 --> 1:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>deciding whether or not you're satisfied with her response.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, just you know, it'd be

1:27:08.479 --> 1:27:12.280
<v Speaker 4>a huge life change, and you know there's some big

1:27:12.320 --> 1:27:13.600
<v Speaker 4>conversations that go with that.

1:27:14.400 --> 1:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, well, yeah, dude, I mean being being like, hey,

1:27:17.960 --> 1:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll do this for you if you actually are like

1:27:21.320 --> 1:27:24.360
<v Speaker 1>committed to making this life that we've been talking about

1:27:24.360 --> 1:27:26.559
<v Speaker 1>wanting to live together. But if you're just like, oh,

1:27:26.640 --> 1:27:29.120
<v Speaker 1>it would be cool if you came. I'm not gonna

1:27:29.200 --> 1:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>fucking I'm not going to change my nationality for that,

1:27:35.720 --> 1:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>right right, Like.

1:27:38.240 --> 1:27:42.360
<v Speaker 4>And like I've even told her too, like nothing would

1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:47.720
<v Speaker 4>change if we were like, you know, dating, you know,

1:27:48.240 --> 1:27:51.800
<v Speaker 4>like it would still be cool to be like in

1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:56.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, an open relationship where we like communicated and

1:27:57.200 --> 1:28:03.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, told each other what was going on. Yeah, like,

1:28:05.120 --> 1:28:09.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, spye some some things up times.

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<v Speaker 2>Dum like, but.

1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Well well well look look look look look hm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone in the chat said, do not, under any circumstances

1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>move to Canada chasing a woman. Then someone said Gordon

1:28:31.280 --> 1:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Lightfoot had whole albums about this. I don't know what

1:28:40.680 --> 1:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that means.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

1:28:43.200 --> 1:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Man, Listen, here's here's I think we've been going a

1:28:48.280 --> 1:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit in circles on this, but I'll say that, Yeah,

1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it sounds like you have some It sounds

1:28:52.000 --> 1:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>like you have some some conversations that you gotta have

1:28:55.680 --> 1:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>with this lady. And then after those conversations, you gotta

1:28:58.280 --> 1:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a.

1:29:01.800 --> 1:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Deep breathe, uh, get high, look yourself in the mirror,

1:29:08.360 --> 1:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and go what do I actually want? What do I

1:29:10.880 --> 1:29:12.439
<v Speaker 1>actually want my fucking stupid life to be?

1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Those are hard questions to answer, is a really hard

1:29:18.479 --> 1:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>question to answer. But from from everything, if my life

1:29:23.040 --> 1:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>was your life, that's what I would be doing is

1:29:27.720 --> 1:29:32.599
<v Speaker 1>asking myself those questions. And and with my life being

1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:35.439
<v Speaker 1>my life, I'm asking myself these kinds of questions, so

1:29:37.439 --> 1:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not alone in your imperfect navigation of the scary universe.

1:29:44.640 --> 1:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I hope that makes you feel any bit better about

1:29:48.600 --> 1:29:52.519
<v Speaker 1>the decision making process. Is there anything else you want

1:29:52.560 --> 1:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to say to the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Man, gosh, uh, it's so strange to hear you

1:30:03.520 --> 1:30:08.400
<v Speaker 4>say that, and now I'm responding to it. Man, I

1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:15.200
<v Speaker 4>just want to say that your podcast has been just

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<v Speaker 4>to really just well for one, like really entertaining platform,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like it's really just gotten me through some

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<v Speaker 4>hard times and it's just been.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun to.

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<v Speaker 4>Hear you continue, you know, everything that you've been doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you travel and yeah, yeah, it's been awesome to

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<v Speaker 4>follow along. And I guess what I'd like to finish

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<v Speaker 4>with is that just remember that everything is temporary, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like everything like the good and the bad times throughout life.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if there's some shitty thing that is happening, like

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<v Speaker 4>just know that it's going to end. And if there's

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<v Speaker 4>some awesome times that you're going through, just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like remember that times won't always be awesome and just

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<v Speaker 4>just enjoy the good times while they're here and know

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<v Speaker 4>that the bad times will eventually end as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>My trail name is Lufa.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my name, Lufa. Good luck with your life, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you later.

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<v Speaker 4>He thanks, Lyle. Have a good night.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Lufa. Thank you for sharing cool.

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<v Speaker 4>See you have it going man, goodnight.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck man. I feel for that guy I called him,

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<v Speaker 1>but because that felt Canadian. Uh, you know, I I

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<v Speaker 1>feel for that guy. I feel for that guy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so hard to I don't know, it's hard to make decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I wonder about that though. Sometimes I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>if a decision is hard to make, maybe that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of informs your answer a bit, right, Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a stupid thing to say? Because some decisions

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<v Speaker 1>are easy to make. There's an easy decision to Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the less easy decision I made? Oh, they were

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<v Speaker 1>giving out samples of Costco today ice cream with a

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<v Speaker 1>cookie in it. That was an easy decision to make

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<v Speaker 1>to eat that because it was just a little scoop

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<v Speaker 1>of ice cream. It wasn't anything crazy. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible example, but you know what I mean, Some

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<v Speaker 1>decisions are easy to make, So maybe if a decision's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to make, that's that's your answer. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a gecko. Thank you for listening to my Therapy

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<v Speaker 1>Gecko podcast. Thank you for your continued support of my

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<v Speaker 1>Lizard endeavors. I feel really good today. I feel really

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<v Speaker 1>good about continuing to do this podcast, and I'm extremely

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<v Speaker 1>grateful to you guys for listening to the show. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep doing the show, and I'm gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do other things. That's my goal right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like trying so fucking hard to figure out other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to keep doing with my life. I'm always chasing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always wanting to do more shit. I'm always wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to chase more. I'm editing a video right now about

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty mile walk I took. It was referenced in

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<v Speaker 1>the episode with Jason aka sense Martian. Uh So that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be out when I finish it. I'm working on continuing

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<v Speaker 1>to not go insane. We had some pretty good progress

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<v Speaker 1>on that recently over the past three days. I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>to smoking weed, which actually is good. It means that

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<v Speaker 1>my brain is in a place where I can handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I still have dreams and hopes for the future

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to do. I have business ideas that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do and events that would be cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was hanging out with my dad last night.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad's sixty seven years old, and he showed me

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<v Speaker 1>this big list of projects that he wants to get done,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh fuck, I'm gonna be, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's in my dna to wanna do stuff. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty years from now still trying to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and making YouTube videos and whatever. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh fuck, is because I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I associate with I associate that with like never being satisfied.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe you know what, which is a blessing and

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<v Speaker 1>a curse, because it kind of curses you with like

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<v Speaker 1>forever is never ending sense that you didn't do your

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<v Speaker 1>homework and it's due tomorrow night, and you know kind

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<v Speaker 1>of that feeling every day. But you know, look, that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling causes you to kind of lights a fire under

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<v Speaker 1>your ass to be a present and conscious contributor to

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<v Speaker 1>your own life and to hopefully the world. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to embrace it instead of letting it drive

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<v Speaker 1>me completely fucking insane. All Right, thank you for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. Ghek bless you. Uh catch you in

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<v Speaker 1>a few days by Hello, folks, it's Lyle here. That's

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I want to talk about my oldest daughter. Mainly,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just my wife and I. For the past couple

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<v Speaker 7>of years, we just feel like like maybe we babied

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<v Speaker 7>her too much. He just seems like at this age

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<v Speaker 7>she still isn't able to get a hold of her emotions.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we have a five year old as well.

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<v Speaker 7>My oldest is eight, my youngest is five.

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<v Speaker 5>And like you know, you're not supposed to pick favorites,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's hard not to think of the other one

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<v Speaker 5>as the good one and and not that we love

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<v Speaker 5>the other one more, but it's very hard for us

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<v Speaker 5>to like not have this space here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if you love one of your children more than

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<v Speaker 1>Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right, I have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else to say. Taking your phone calls every night, everythin

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<v Speaker 1>goes doing his eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>He's teaching you to.

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<v Speaker 1>A house over your life, but he's not ready an expert.

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<v Speaker 4>After do