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Speaker 1: into some football. Appreciate everyone that listens, that has told

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, and speaking of relationships, Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: and you just take it day by day and you're like, way,

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Speaker 1: eventually we'll be out of this face. But one thing

427
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Speaker 1: is we bought a bunch of these books, these black

428
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Speaker 1: and white books that just are like animal books or

429
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Speaker 1: you know what's in the sea, just basic like this

430
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Speaker 1: is a fish, this is a shark, this is a dolphin.

431
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Speaker 1: So I took one of these little books. They're like

432
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Speaker 1: little squares, probably like three by three inches or something,

433
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Speaker 1: and they're black and white. And I'm just sitting there.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of on my arm lap and I'm just

435
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Speaker 1: reading him the book this is a dolphin, this is

436
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Speaker 1: a shark, and I'm I'm looking at the book and

437
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Speaker 1: he's just kind of staring off into space, and she's like,

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Speaker 1: do you know that you have to put that book

439
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: in front of him like, what do you mean. She's like,

440
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Speaker 1: it's color coded in black and white white. For a reason,

441
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: babies are color blind. All they can see is black

442
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Speaker 1: and white. And when you look, when you put the

443
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Speaker 1: book close to his eyes, you'll see he will, you know,

444
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: lock in and he will look at the different colors

445
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Speaker 1: and kind of go around you. Just reading this is

446
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Speaker 1: a cow moo moo moo. Isn't really doing anything if

447
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Speaker 1: you're not showing him the picture. I'm like, I gotta

448
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Speaker 1: be honest, I did not know that. So I was

449
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Speaker 1: just reading this little book about pigs and owls, just

450
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Speaker 1: out loud, like he can understand what's going on when

451
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Speaker 1: the whole point of the exercise is to put the

452
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Speaker 1: color coding of the black and white in front of

453
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Speaker 1: his eyes so he can. I don't even know what

454
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Speaker 1: it's considered, but you know, latch on intellectually, I guess,

455
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Speaker 1: and try to grow his brain because if you see,

456
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Speaker 1: like those things that you lay them on, with the

457
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Speaker 1: things hanging above them, they're all in black and white

458
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: as well, because that at ten twenty days old, that's

459
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Speaker 1: what he sees. Instead of me just reading this book

460
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Speaker 1: out loud to essentially myself, well, he sits there like,

461
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Speaker 1: what are you even talking about? So you learn something

462
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: new every day, and that was a pretty embarrassing moment

463
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: because I thought, God, these books, what's the point of them?

464
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Speaker 1: But makes a lot more sense when you realize the

465
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Speaker 1: color coding is really is what it's there for. And

466
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Speaker 1: then eventually you start putting the word cow with the

467
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Speaker 1: shape cow or pig with the shape pig. Kind of

468
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Speaker 1: makes some sense. So anyone that didn't know that, if

469
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Speaker 1: you're getting about to have a baby and you get

470
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Speaker 1: those little black and white books, make sure you show

471
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Speaker 1: the baby the pages as you read them to him

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Speaker 1: or her. Okay, let's go to the little mailbag at

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Speaker 1: John middlecoff At John middle Coffe is the Instagram firre

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Speaker 1: and those dms get your questions answer here on the show,

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Speaker 1: we will start with Josh quick background. I'm born and

476
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Speaker 1: raised in South Florida. Got my BA from the Gators

477
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Speaker 1: University of Florida and my MS from A and M.

478
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Speaker 1: Lived in College Station for a couple of years. Well

479
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Speaker 1: educated man. I grew up a Steeler fan because family,

480
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Speaker 1: but I've got zero actual ties to Pittsburgh and have

481
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: never been there. The McCarthy hired today was honestly the

482
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: last straw. This team refuses to change or adapt. I

483
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: can't do it anymore. I'm officially done being a Steelers

484
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: fan and trying to decide between the Texans or the Bucks.

485
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Speaker 1: Curious what your honest thoughts are. Well, we had someone

486
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: pre Netflix, so this probably would have been a year ago.

487
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: It was either at the end of Belichick was drowd

488
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: Mayo when they asked if it was okay to leave

489
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: the franchise, if you could drop the Patriots. I think

490
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: the guy was like thirty years old. It's like, bro,

491
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: you just from twelve years old or essentially, I guess

492
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: it would have been eighteen plus years after you were

493
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Speaker 1: like eleven or twelve. You saw the greatest run in

494
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: the history of sports in the prime of your sports

495
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: loving kind of life. It doesn't get any more pure

496
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: when you're in your teams of just pure love of

497
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: football and your team was just rattling off Super Bowls.

498
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: You don't get to leave the Patriots, especially this guy

499
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: was from Boston. In your situation, I'm more open to

500
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: the conversation of if you just get like part of

501
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: the sport team, the teams that I grew up loving

502
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: were teams that I grew up around. If you get

503
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: your teams from family, I don't know if I'm as

504
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: strict on that rule. And if you don't want to

505
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: like the Steelers anymore just because your dad and grandpa

506
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Speaker 1: like them and you have no ties to I don't

507
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: think it's that crazy. And clearly, if it's strong enough

508
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: the bond between that team, it'll never truly leave you.

509
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: It won't. But if it's not, then just I don't know.

510
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Speaker 1: I think the Texans with Demiko and Nick Cassario are

511
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: well run and not going away anytime soon. I think

512
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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steeler thing, I will say this, I think

513
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: the McCarthy hire is better than you're giving it credit for.

514
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Speaker 1: But nothing is gonna change. You guys are just gonna

515
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: do the same thing over and over again and get

516
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: no closer to beating any of the top teams. I

517
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: would agree there, and it becomes a pretty frustrating exercise.

518
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Speaker 1: So I'm not against dropping a team. Like if you

519
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Speaker 1: tell me, hey, I'm thirty five years old, I'm a

520
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Jets fan. I can't do this anymore. What am I

521
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna say? Like stick with it? Like you're fucking out

522
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: of your mind. I wouldn't waste my energy watching that operation.

523
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: The Steelers like you've had it pretty good. I take

524
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: it your in your twenties most of your life, they've

525
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: been really competitive. You haven't seen him lose. But it

526
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: is frustrating to think, like, are we starting to trend

527
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: the wrong way? And is this not going to be fun?

528
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: But I actually think the McCarthy hire. The problem is

529
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: you're probably more likely to win nine or ten games

530
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: next year than you are three games, which would be

531
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Speaker 1: the best thing for the health of the franchise big picture.

532
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: So I believe if you're born there and you grew

533
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: up rooting for him and you're just mad at them,

534
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: like they're kind of with you for life. But in

535
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: your situation, I would just start loosely dating, be like, hey,

536
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm still married, but we're living separately and we're okay

537
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: to date. I'm allowed to go on a date, Like

538
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: start either pick Tampa or pick Houston, and just see

539
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: how it goes, and maybe you'll feel it's not quite

540
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: as strong of a connection as you thought, and you'll

541
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: gravitate back toward Pittsburgh. But I think you're in a

542
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: position where you should be allowed to date other people

543
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: if you are just there by family connection. As many

544
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: teams are secure and looking for head coaches do some

545
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: teams have quote a bridge head coach mentality like they

546
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: can with quarterbacks. I'm sure it has happened. The Raiders

547
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: just did that with Pete Carroll. But a lot like

548
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback, there is no guarantee with the bridge. It

549
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: can completely blow up in your face. So I would

550
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: say that most teams are trying to find the best

551
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: head coach they possibly can that they can win with

552
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 1: relatively quickly. And if you look at most of the hires,

553
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: like the Steel's hired Mike McCarthy because they're trying to win.

554
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: The Giants hired John Harbuck because they thought he was

555
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: the best coach. Atlanta thought that Kevin Stefanski is like

556
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: a star in Cleveland Fuckton, right, they think they got

557
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: a gem in Jeff Hafley, the Browns and the Cardinals

558
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: who knows, but you know, Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel, most

559
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: of the Liam Cohen. Most of these teams are hiring

560
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: guys thinking they can be really good, So I would

561
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: say it's pretty rare. The bridge quarterback is way more

562
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: of a thing than the bridge coach. The Texans did

563
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: it for a couple of years because no one would

564
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: take their job. The Browns might have to do it

565
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: because no one will take their job. Like the Browns

566
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: could probably hire Pee Carroll fresh new dad like yourself.

567
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: My big boy is Dominic already getting nicknamed Big dom

568
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: by Eagles fans. Hang in there, I feel you. On

569
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks, by a month, it gets easier,

570
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: sort of, Saints fan. Just curious if you think Shuck

571
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: and More can get us to the playoffs in the

572
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: next couple of years. It's funny, like I on the

573
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: kid thing, you just can't. It's gonna get easier. Think

574
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Speaker 1: of the millions upon millions upon millions of people who

575
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: have had children and raised children. Now we could argue

576
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: how good they were raising the children, but still people

577
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: have done it. So it's like everyone's gone through this,

578
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: or most people in society at one point time in

579
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: the history of this world have done it. Every time

580
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I want to get mad or complaints like, can't be

581
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: that hard? A lot of fucking people that can barely

582
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: walk across the street have raise a child. Again, can

583
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: we could argue how well they did, but they've still

584
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: done it. They've kept them alive, which is clearly your

585
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: number one goal, keep them alive and feed them. It's

586
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: pretty basic. At first, I would say on the Saints,

587
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: you would think the Bucks will be better, right that

588
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: they would they lose seven in their last eight Atlanta.

589
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: They do have a lot of talent on their team.

590
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Who's their quarterback? Carolina is clearly pretty feisty. If they

591
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: get better at defense, because offensively they're not bad. It's

592
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: not easy like that. That division actually, in a weird

593
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: way for a team that just won it at eight

594
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: to nine should be way more competitive in twenty twenty six.

595
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: Usually when you have a team that goes under five

596
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: hundred like that division is a joke technically not that bad.

597
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: A lot of good players, a lot of competent coaches,

598
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: a lot of explosive, high end playmakers. So you probably,

599
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: my guest is sitting here on January twenty sixth, you

600
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: gotta win ten games to win the division, so more

601
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: than likely to make the playoffs, you have to win

602
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: the division and go ten and seven. What's up, baby daddy? Male?

603
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Bad question? Would the Eagles be better off hiring an

604
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: adult CEO? Like Sala to run their team. The players

605
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: hate each other, and the offense just failed to score

606
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: twenty on the Niners practice squad. Obviously, they've had past success,

607
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: but if Sirianni is a CEO and their culture is broken,

608
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: why keep them? I don't know if their culture is broken.

609
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: I think a mistake they made is the Aj brown saga.

610
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: They wanted to have their cake and eat the entire

611
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: thing too, and it was clearly off with him in Jalen,

612
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: and they could have traded him at the trade deadline,

613
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: and they chose not to because, in fairness to them,

614
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: they wanted to win another Super Bowl and they were

615
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: better off winning the Super Bowl or giving themselves a

616
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: chance in their minds with Aj on the team than

617
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: trading him and having a second rounder for AJ. Right.

618
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: I wonder if we look back, they would have been

619
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: better off just separating that situation. I mean, you couldn't

620
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: watch a game without his commercial coming on, which essentially

621
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: felt like he was talking right to Jalen. It's okay,

622
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: people don't like each other. I never understood when Brandon

623
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: Graham came out why they tried to backtrack it. We

624
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: don't like everyone we know, we don't like everyone we

625
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: work with, especially in situations where you're with each other

626
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: all the time, called human beings, people grow apart, people

627
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: don't see eye to eye, especially if I think that

628
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: you're not good enough and we're in a position where

629
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm dependent on you. It comes with the territory. And

630
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: I think if how he had a do over, they

631
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: would have traded AJ Brown during the season, and you

632
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: know how he could have just got some other random

633
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver to come in and somewhat fill that void.

634
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: And I think that Siriani obviously didn't get fired, but

635
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be given, Like, let's remove Aj Brown and

636
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: whatever tension was created by that situation and add whoever's

637
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: gonna take our offensive coordinator job and see if we

638
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: can get some some cohesion back. Because the cohesion was

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Speaker 1: off and it was clearly between the quarterback and the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Well, we all know who they're gonna choose

641
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Speaker 1: this offseason. It ain't gonna be the wide receiver. So

642
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one hundred percent Jalen Show. There's gonna

643
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: be a lot of pressure on him. And part of

644
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: with your quarterback, like he's gotta set the tone. He's

645
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: the culture center that we talk about culture and cariacter

646
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: and all that stuff typically starts with the quarterback. They

647
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: kind of get to set the tone of the locker room.

648
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: And now the pressure is gonna fall on Jalen, which

649
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: is gonna be fascinating to see. Which why there's a

650
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: ton of pressure on the new offensive coordinator. What do

651
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: you think about a change of scene trade DJ Moore

652
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: for Kavon Thibodeau More is clearly not the top dog

653
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and Kavon has not worked out well well

654
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: as relative to his draft position would hope for. As

655
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: a Giants fan, I do think he has been underutilized

656
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: and at the same time, he is more solid than

657
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: he will ever be good. He will ever be good

658
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: or great. Trade would help Chicago defense and the Giants offense.

659
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: That's type trade I'm talking about. Those are the type moves.

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00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I can't speak for the Giants in how John will think,

661
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: but to me, if you're the Bears, you're gonna use

662
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: one of those guys to get defensive help. And whether

663
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: it's a draft pick to draft a defender or just

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Speaker 1: essentially swap salaries. I think Kavon's fifth year option is

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember off the top of my head,

666
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen, seventeen million somewhere in there. And I think

667
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: DJ makes high teens, maybe low twenties, So you know,

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00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: can Kavon just give them another solid defensive lineman. He's

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Speaker 1: pretty good against the run. I've always thought he's a

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00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: little stiff as like an edge rusher, But like you said,

671
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: he gets to kind of change the scenery, take a

672
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: deep breath, contract year. That's the type move. If you're Chicago,

673
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Speaker 1: you are highly entertaining, right And I think if you're

674
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: the Giants, you got Malik coming back, wan Dell, like

675
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: they already got some offensive pieces, maybe you want to

676
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: add another guy. You know, John's had versatile players like DJ.

677
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't even do we know who their offensive coordinator

678
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: is yet? In New York, I don't think we do.

679
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's gonna be Todd, but yeah, Fugazi Friday idea.

680
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: I believe social media was a way to keep in touch,

681
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: show off the family, and post about what's on the grill. Lately,

682
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: it just feels like a platform for old coworkers, old people,

683
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: and my mother in law to grandstand their political opinions.

684
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: Is it a reach to just tell people, or if

685
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: they keep posting their politics on social the way, they

686
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: get deleted, or is it just okay to just do

687
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: it and not tell them. I unfollow people all the time.

688
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm not trying. Human beings weren't wired to get the

689
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: amount of information if you spend a lot of time scrolling,

690
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: there is no way our brains were wired to take

691
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: in that much information that quickly. And I'm as guilty

692
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: as anyone over the year scrolling. But I have found

693
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: myself unfollowing more and more people. If there's some sort

694
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Speaker 1: of professional connection, maybe I'll mute, but specially people that

695
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: aren't my life just because we went to high school

696
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: of college together and you're just going off twenty four

697
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: to seven. It's like, Bro, you're a manager at Whole Foods,

698
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: Like I focus on your family, So I delete and

699
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: unfollow people constantly. If you're just, if you're relentless, like listen,

700
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: you go your own opinions. I don't care. We don't

701
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: have to agree. But if that's your thing, like bro,

702
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: get a life, put down the phone, go into society,

703
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: hang out with some people, Go spend some time with

704
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: your children, with your significant other. If you're single, go

705
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: on some fucking dates, get a life. I think too

706
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: often people are just firing away posts like none of

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00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: this means anything. None of these posts mean anything. Now

708
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: you could argue, what does any of it mean? Yeah,

709
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: your point. That's why I've made a huge the second

710
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: half of this decade. Put your phone down, go live life.

711
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't beat a dead horse at this point. But

712
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: how dumb are the vikings for letting Darnald walk? It

713
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: already felt like a big miss, but now it's even worse.

714
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: It's got to hurt. It's gotta really hurt because unlike

715
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Speaker 1: San Francisco sign him for a backup, you signed him,

716
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: he started, and he threw thirty five touchdowns and you

717
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: were sixteen minutes away from being the number one seed

718
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Speaker 1: with him as the quarterback. The chances of that JJ

719
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: could ever do that are slim the nun And after

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00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: one year it's there's not even a question the chance

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Speaker 1: of the JJ. I mean, he's got so far to

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Speaker 1: go because mechanically you're like breaking his whole throwing motion down.

723
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Speaker 1: So it's gotta hurt. It's gotta hurt. The only way

724
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Speaker 1: for it not to haunt the franchise forever. Is JJ

725
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: has to become a serviceable player, just Ryan Tannehill, Alex Smith,

726
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: a guy that's like, hey, he's never gonna be Josh Allen,

727
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: but he could throw me twenty eight touchdowns. If we

728
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Speaker 1: do a good job building the team, we can make

729
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: the playoffs. If JJ's not that good, it's a it's

730
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: an all time disaster because they were having the conversation

731
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: and they decided to let him go. I know this

732
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: is completely utopian and will never happen, but what are

733
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on NFL playoff games getting to be played

734
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: in a dome stadium? Is it's just disappointing to see

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00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: bad weather determine the results of a playoff game. And no,

736
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Speaker 1: not a Broncos fan. There are plenty of dome stadiums

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Speaker 1: they could use Mini New Orleans, Detroit, Houston, etc. It

738
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: would level the playing field and make all the playoff

739
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: games based on scheme and talent, not rain or snow.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, and clearly the second half of that

741
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: game is this as gregious of a winter game as

742
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: you're ever gonna see. When you factor in I mean

743
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: blizzard conditions, you can't see the wind is pumping snows

744
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: everywhere in your eyes. But my pushback is like, this

745
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: is an outdoor sport and weather plays a huge factor

746
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: in the history of the playoff games, and playing in

747
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: cold weather is a point of difference for a lot

748
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: of these teams. Ask the Chiefs over the last half decade,

749
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: how many home games worked to their advantage being freezing cold?

750
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: It's worked in Denver's advantage in years past, and in

751
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: the weather it's just so unpredictable, like a week ago

752
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: it was fifty degrees in Denver, so I would chock

753
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: it more up to that feels like an extreme situation,

754
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: and I have a hard time changing everything based on

755
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: one extreme. Was that game decided on the field, Not

756
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: really because the second half was a joke, But am

757
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: I gonna let one half a football impact? Like the

758
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: previous week? Playing that game in Chicago when it was

759
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: freezing cold like that was a test to Wills And

760
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: historically these playoff games in Kansas City and Philly and

761
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: Baltimore and New England, weather is a point of difference

762
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: for that home team. Right, So I hear what you're saying,

763
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: but I like weather, and it feels like one day

764
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: we'll be playing all football games in a dome, and

765
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: I think they'll that will suck. That that really will

766
00:42:52,480 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: I I obviously didn't agree with or I mean, I'm

767
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: not like disputing what you're saying about that specific game,

768
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: which is as extreme as you're gonna see. But on

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00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: the aggregate, I like weather games as someone that doesn't

770
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: like the cold. As a consumer, I like consuming, and

771
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: we're the life blow of the league. Without us watching

772
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: these games. We provide the money, your time and attention

773
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch watching the game. We provide all

774
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: the money. All the owners would be the first to

775
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: tell you the TV money is our bread and butter.

776
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: That's where we build our wealth. And I just think

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00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: the weather games are better than the dome games. I'm

778
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: not a huge dome fan in general. Like I would

779
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: much rather watch a game outside than I would cold

780
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: or just normal weather than a dome game. It's not

781
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: normal football, just perfect elements. Part of football is the

782
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: elements play a factor, whether that's September in Miami when

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00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: it's one hundred degree human Remember when Notre Dame played

784
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: Miami the first game of the season and it was

785
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: like one hundred and ten degrees humidity on the field

786
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: like that has to that has to mean something, and

787
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: it does to me as a football crazy rain games.

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00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean even when San Francisco used to play at

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00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: Levi Stick or at Candlestick, they had historic rain games.

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00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: One against Eli Manning in twenty eleven with Harbaugh's first year.

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00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: They had one against the Cowboys in the nineties Torrential

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00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: drowned pair poor. Like, to me, that's just part of

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00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: the sport. It's like golf. Some days you just get

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00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: eighty eight degrees no wind. Some days it's freezing cold

795
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: and windy. Some days it's raining. Like it's just it's

796
00:44:44,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: an outdoor sport. Watching Goffers Championship weekend pod reaction with Colin,

797
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: you guys heard you talk about how Seattle was five

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00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: and one to just win the division. So I was thinking,

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00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: based off of off season predictions and odds, is this

800
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl one of the most unlikely matchups in NFL history?

801
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: Not uncommon for one team to come out of nowhere

802
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: and make a run, but both teams basically being Cinderella

803
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: has got to be history in itself. You know, Seattle

804
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: won ten games last year. Now they changed their quarterback,

805
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: but they were not a two or three win team.

806
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: They went ten and seven and the team that won

807
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: their division went ten to seven too, So it's based

808
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: on the odds they were an outlier or an extreme

809
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: extremely unlikely to win their own division, right five to

810
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: one chance to win the NFC West, which I mean

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Speaker 1: it came down to the last game of the season,

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00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like super easy. And New England they

813
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: had just been so bad the last couple of years,

814
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: but they got a real coach, they got a real

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00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and it was like, hey, could the young

816
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: quarterback take a step? He was an MVP candidate. And

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00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: defensively they're clearly pretty good, and their schedule was pretty easy.

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00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: But if you factor in both teams, like think of

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00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the matchups recently, Chiefs Eagles, Chiefs Niners,

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00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs Eagles Cincinnati was definitely kind of came out of

821
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: nowhere in burrows second year, but they played the Rams

822
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: who had just traded for Stafford, which wasn't that as normal.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Patriots Rams, a lot of Patriots, a

824
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: lot of Peyton Manning. So yeah, I mean it's in

825
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: recent memory, it's probably one of did not see that coming.

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Speaker 1: Most people at the beginning of the year would not

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Speaker 1: have believed that the Patriots in Seattle would be the

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00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: Super Bowl matchup. So I think it's fair to say

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Speaker 1: in the Internet age, it's got to be one of

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00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: the more unlikely teams. I would imagine if people were

831
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: bullish on Seattle in the New England, most people would

832
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: have said, both teams can make the playoffs, probably like

833
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: a one and done operation. One was the one seed,

834
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: one was the two seed. It's not as unlikely once

835
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: the season started playing out because they were both good.

836
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: But in August, if this would have been your pick,

837
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: most people would have thought you were a little crazy

838
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: for sure. But this was also a weird year. Lamar

839
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: Jackson Patrick Mahomes did not make the playoffs. The Lions,

840
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: who had been one of the best teams in the

841
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: league for two years running, did not make the playoffs.

842
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: The Packers were the seventh seed, the Bears were the

843
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: two seed. You know, so it's the Jags not only

844
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: won the division, were one of the best teams in

845
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: the league. You could argue this year was one of

846
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: the great curveball years in recent memory. For the mailback

847
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: about time, McVeigh starts caring about special teams. It cost

848
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: them the Super Bowl, Draft defense fucking backs and get

849
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: a special teams coordinator. Disclaimer. I know everyone thinks Bill

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00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: is the village idiot, but one of his team captains

851
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: was Matt bleeping' Slater, so Bill definitely valued all three forms.

852
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: So Matt I had money on the Rams. Defensive guys

853
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: like special teams. They value special teams. You won't find

854
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: defensive coaches like John Harbaugh, Mike Vrabel, Bill Belichick that

855
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: don't value the defensive side of them or the special

856
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: team side of the ball. It's a big deal to

857
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: them because it's kind of defense punt punt kickoff, like

858
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: you're covering, you're tackling, you're setting gaps like they like

859
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: that stuff. There's a physicality element to it. The worst

860
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: three special teams. Someone sent this to me in the NFL,

861
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: So it's pretty remarkable how much worse the Packers and

862
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: Rams have been at special teams compared to everyone else

863
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenties. So this is is I don't

864
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: know the metric, but the forty nine Ers, Green Bay Packers,

865
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: and Rams are the three worst teams in the league.

866
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: What do they have in common three offensive coaches the

867
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: call plays. They can't even pretend to give a shit.

868
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: They really can't. And I've seen Kyle forever. I don't

869
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: know what he's done the last couple years. Didn't even

870
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: come out during special teams portions. They just did not care.

871
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: They don't take it seriously. And it shows you get

872
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: what you emphasize. They would never be that bad at offense.

873
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Lafleur, McVeigh or Kyle having like a

874
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: year of the most embarrassing offense. Of course not because

875
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: it would never be tolerated and if it was that

876
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: they would there would be huge like ramifications. It happened

877
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: to one year to McVeigh when Stafford got injured and

878
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: they fired everybody. He got like a brand new staff

879
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: He was so he almost quit. He almost went to Amazon.

880
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: He literally almost quit. Saw you know, Kyle's like, oh,

881
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: we need a kicker. You just draft a kicker in

882
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: the third round. Like, Bro, that's not how you fix it.

883
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: Come on, emphasize it. You set the standard. Because all

884
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: these coaches, what do they talk a lot about offensive

885
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: defense even though they are all offensive coordinators. They hold

886
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: their defensive players to a high standard. They do not

887
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: hold their special teams players to a high standard, just

888
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: a fact, or else they wouldn't all three be the

889
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: worst units. Think about that, the Niners, the Packers, and

890
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: the Rams for the last five years of the worst

891
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: special teams units in the league. I mean, if that

892
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: doesn't say at all, I don't know what else does.

893
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: They were all three a little crew, and I'm sure

894
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: they love talking offense. They really value defense, but they

895
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: just do not care about special teams that they can't

896
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: even pretend to care. And it shows. One time in

897
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: a Niner press conference, Tim Kawakami asked Kyle that and

898
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: he got so offended. It's like, well, we drafted a

899
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: kicker in the third. It's not about just drafting a kicker,

900
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: like you said. Belichick made Matthew Slater his team captain

901
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: for a decade. A decade. You know why, because when

902
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: we walk through this door, from Vrabel to Brady to

903
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: Gronk to mccordy, Slater is every bit as important. Those

904
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: coaches would never do that. Ever. They need to start

905
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: or else it's gonna always cost him. The Sam Donald

906
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: performance was Mahomes and Allen like if he wins a

907
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: ring and plays well in the Super Bowl. Where would

908
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: you rank him as a quarterback. It's a great question

909
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: based off this one year. I mean, he would have

910
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: a lot of momentum going into next season of like

911
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: would you rather have Sam Donald or Dak Prescott? Would

912
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: you rather have Sam Donald or Jared Goff? Like he's

913
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: immediately in that crew, you know, Jalen Purdy. There's always

914
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: this crew of the top guys, right Mahomes, Alan Lamar, Burrow,

915
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: Herbert regular season playoffs, that's a different story. But the

916
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: guys that are widely considered, and then there's like the

917
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: next crew of like eight guys that we kind of

918
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: waffle up and down on you win the Super Bowl. Like, now,

919
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: is he gonna have like a seven year career of

920
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: just every year being like a pro Bowl level guy.

921
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't bet against it. Now that

922
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: he's got momentum. Confidence it's a powerful thing any young

923
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: person once they kind of get going in the right direction,

924
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: you kind of build off that and it it exponentially

925
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: can build on itself and grow. And when you lose

926
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: your confidence, you feel like you're never gonna get it back.

927
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: And when you get it, it's it starts kind of

928
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: just building on h year after year. I mean, part

929
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: of being a great player in the NFL is doing

930
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: it every single year. So it's like, can he have

931
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: a three year career with Seattle this year, the next

932
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: couple of years where he's just a really good player.

933
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: I would bet on him being a really good player.

934
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna he's gonna have bad turnovers. I mean,

935
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be turnover prone. But if he's throwing a

936
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: bunch of touchdowns and comes through in playoff games, what

937
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: else do you want? Dak Prescott has never done that

938
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: in a big game like that. Dak Prescott had one

939
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: good playoff game in the last you know, in the

940
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: prime of his career. He had a good one when

941
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: he was a rookie. But think of that stretch with McCarthy.

942
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: He had the one playoff game against the Bucks, who

943
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: were terrible. He threw five touchdowns, played the Niners twice.

944
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: Was atrocious. That Packer game in the first half was bad.

945
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: Can you believe Sam Darnold is the only quarterback from

946
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: the eighteen draft class to make the Super Bowl? Pretty nuts?

947
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: Pretty nuts? I think? Yeah. I mean, Lamar and Josh

948
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: had their shots Lamar two years ago. It doesn't get

949
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: any better than that. You're at home, number one seed,

950
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: best defense in the league, you're the MVP. Josh has

951
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: had multiple shots, including this year, just didn't get it done.

952
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else to say. No

953
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: one would have had that on their Bengo card. Hell,

954
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: even Baker, you would have bet on. You know, he

955
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: had a bunch of momentum this year. When the Bucks

956
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: started fast, they look good. They were what were they?

957
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: Eight and two? Question for the mailbag, what's the deal

958
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: with the Rams fans? They're the most non impassioned fan

959
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: base of a good team I've ever seen. I feel

960
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: like Championship weekend doesn't have a lot of juice. The

961
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: country is not really invested in the Seahawks and they're

962
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: coaching quarterback. Rams fans seem to be pretty lackluster. The

963
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Broncos lost their starting quarterback, and nationwide standpoint, I don't

964
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are moving the needle. Am I wrong

965
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: about this take? I do think that Sam Donold's a

966
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: big time story, and I think McVeigh nationally is bigger

967
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: than he is in Los Angeles. Part of it is

968
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: the Rams left La for a long time they left forever, right,

969
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: they were there when I was really young, and then

970
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: they went to Saint Louis and for a long time

971
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: they were just the Saint Louis Rams. When you're a

972
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: nomadic franchise, it creates friction and people leave you, right

973
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: the reason the Steelers, the Bears, the Eagles, the Niners,

974
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, these teams that have been one place forever,

975
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: the Packers. When moving is part of your thing, like

976
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and if you've moved in the last like

977
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: ten years, it just creates I don't even know the

978
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: right way to describe it, but it's no one wants

979
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: to follow a professional franchise that's moving, especially in the

980
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: Internet age. So I think that's part of it. Like

981
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: their team wasn't there for a lot of people that

982
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: are my age when you were growing up, they were

983
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Rams. Kurt Warner is not yours, Marshall

984
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: Falk was not yours. So the teams that won the

985
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty plus years ago and that were good,

986
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: like you don't even get to claim those. The Raiders

987
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: won a couple of Super Bowls in Los Angeles, So

988
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: it's like the Raiders, the Rams, the Chargers, these teams moving,

989
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: it's I think that plays a massive, massive part in

990
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: their fan bases. I got two questions on McCarthy and

991
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: we'll end on this love the pod. So the Steelers

992
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: hire McCarthy, and the fan base and the media alike

993
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: experience at complete meltdown. Am I crazy in thinking that

994
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: this is an okay, higher and might be shorter term

995
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: or bridge play by Steelers ownership obtain a young, highly

996
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: rated OC like a Selhouse. I think I'm saying that

997
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: name wrong. It's the mcveigh's guy. Not saying him specifically,

998
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: but someone like that to mentor groom under McCarthy. I

999
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: get the Steelers always go long tenure at head coach historically,

1000
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm just coping, but it's got to be

1001
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: in the cards giving them McCarthy a sixty two. Another question,

1002
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: cowboy fan here, I don't understand all the hate for McCarthy.

1003
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: People forget, but Jason Carrott was the king of eight

1004
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: to eight. McCarthy takes over and he has way more

1005
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: success than Jason. Not saying that's a high bar, but

1006
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 1: he made the team better for sure, and the people

1007
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: often judge coaches on how they do after they leave.

1008
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: My opinion, Yottenneimer is neutral. I'm not convinced we upgraded

1009
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: a head coach, but Jerry can sell hope, which matters

1010
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: the most. Why do people hate on McCarthy and he

1011
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: he tweeted? Or send me the tweet of McCarthy versus

1012
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: Harball sixty two verse sixty three, eighteen seasons as head coach,

1013
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: basically the same amount of wins one hundred and seventy

1014
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: four to one hundred and eighty, playoff record eleven and eleven,

1015
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: thirteen and eleven, ten win seasons eleven and eleven, and

1016
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: won Super Bowl. Said that it's branding. McCarthy's branding is bad.

1017
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's he's overweight, Maybe it's people. I don't think

1018
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: he's not that smart for an offensive guy who calls

1019
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: plays and works with a quarterback. Find me a guy

1020
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: in his position that we don't consider intelligent. Kevin O'Connell,

1021
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Lafleur, you know Bruce arians like

1022
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: when it comes to football, like this guy knows offensive scheme. Yeah,

1023
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: with McCarthy, no one talks about him like that. They

1024
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: talk about him like he's just like your next door

1025
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: beer drinking neighbor. Yeah, like you said, McCarthy has all

1026
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: these seasons eighteen, he has eleven ten wins seasons. He's

1027
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: coached the MVP at quarterback. He's coached the best years

1028
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott's career. He has one big time, consistently

1029
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: been a playoff coach, had some one and duns in

1030
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs. No one's disputing that. But he does not

1031
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: get talked about like John Harbugh and Mike Tomlin, and

1032
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: he's The branding around him is not good. The PR

1033
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: campaign for him is not good. It's actually atrocious. Look

1034
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: at Robert Slow. Now you can blame the Jets, but

1035
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: it did not go well. He had run ins with

1036
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: Rogers in terms of like the press conferences. He would

1037
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: say things and Rogers back. He never told me that

1038
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: it was not smooth. It did not go well. Some

1039
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: of that was self inflicted by Robert Salt. But he's

1040
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: got a great PR campaign. I'm guilty of this because

1041
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, Robertsaul's a badass. You look at Robert Sawl,

1042
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: he looks like a player. Mike McCarthy, you know, looks

1043
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: like he could drop about fifty get on one of

1044
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: those stupid Eli Lilly commercials so they stop blaming me.

1045
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to eat a salad. I just don't want

1046
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: to work out AKA Lily, just telling you bend Over

1047
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: take that job. If he got on GLP ones and

1048
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: lost fifty pounds. I do wonder if we talk about

1049
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: him differently fair or not, because he gets branded unlike

1050
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: Tomlin and Hardball. Yet they're all three like essentially the

1051
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: same guy. So branding perception in businesses like this really matter.

1052
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: And the Steelers clearly don't care that much about that

1053
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone else was hiring him. McCarthy

1054
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: wasn't going to take the Cardinal or Brown job. But yeah,

1055
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. Whether it's just

1056
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: his pr campaign, his look, the branding around him. I

1057
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of different variables, but they're all negative.

1058
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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh gets fired, it's like fucking genius John freaking Horball. Well,

1059
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Speaker 1: what do we think about the Harbor. There's just a

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Speaker 1: bunch of badasses. What do we think about Mike Tomlin?

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Speaker 1: Best leader of men since like General Patton? Right, Mike McCarthy, Uh, Well,

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Speaker 1: if he wasn't coaching football, what would be doing like

1063
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Speaker 1: running an HVAC company. That's the way people talk about him,

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Speaker 1: and then like you just list his accomplishments. He's basically

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Speaker 1: parallels perfectly John Harbaugh's career. Get the way they're discussed

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Speaker 1: couldn't be any more On the opposite ends of the spectrum.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty wild. It's I don't remember a guy this

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Speaker 1: accomplished and also good with quarterbacks and calling offense that

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01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: no one really respects. The casual fan people are emailing me,

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Speaker 1: can I quit the Steelers, And even I was like, Eh,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can, but I'm telling you it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be as bad as you think. The volume