WEBVTT - Ep. 5 (BONUS): Brown girl magic at the Emmy's

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, we are here with a very special bonus episode.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought you only get in one episode this week,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're actually getting two because we could not wait

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<v Speaker 1>exact to talk to you guys about this excellent week

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<v Speaker 1>of Brown Girl Magic those for most those from us.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the special bonus episode of Brown Ambition, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to start by talking about the incredible Emmys this

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<v Speaker 1>past Sunday. I don't think I've ever sat through an

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<v Speaker 1>award show. I was on. I was like interested the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time, from beginning to end.

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<v Speaker 2>Really honestly, I'm not gonna lie I didn't watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did watch the clips that everybody was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it was a huge night if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't watch if You're Living under a Rock, Viola Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>the incomparable Viola Davis How to Get Away with Mud

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<v Speaker 1>walked away with the first dramatic Emmy for a black

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<v Speaker 1>woman in Emmy's history.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>History was made on that stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And then Regina King, one of my faves on faves,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I used to love Regina Kin from two

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<v Speaker 2>to seven, okay, and then she walked away with a

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<v Speaker 2>well deserved Emmy.

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<v Speaker 1>For her role in American Crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I actually liked that show. She was so

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<v Speaker 2>good in it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so good in everything. It is so nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see these, you know, amazing actresses. You know, forget their

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<v Speaker 1>skin color for a second, but just to see an

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<v Speaker 1>actress who you've watched, who's been in every one of

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite movies. Just get that recognition. And not only that,

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<v Speaker 1>but just there was you know what I noticed during

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<v Speaker 1>the Emmys. So I don't know if you guys watch,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've done it, but this movie on HBO called

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<v Speaker 1>Olive Kidderidge did not watch it. Apparently it was real

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<v Speaker 1>good though, because it won like a bajillion awards and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the lead actress, Frances McDormand, who's this. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she's one oscar. She's this huge actress, very well respected.

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<v Speaker 1>When she won up when she walked up there to

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<v Speaker 1>get her award, she wasn't worrying any makeup. She just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of looked like she rolled out of bed and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, oh, I'm here, and you guys love me

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<v Speaker 1>and like whatever, like I've been doing this forever and

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<v Speaker 1>this is great. Oh, another Emmy. I guess I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>space for that in my you know, den or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and it was just such a different you

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<v Speaker 1>know it was it was so refreshing to see someone

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<v Speaker 1>who really wanted it and who really just like thirsted.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you saw Regina's acceptance speech and Viola's acceptance speech.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't even gotten to Uzo Aduba from Oranges.

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<v Speaker 2>To New Black, my fellow Nigerian lady.

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<v Speaker 1>They had me. They were literally in tears. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we mean when we talk about really feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>you have not been represented you're and just being like

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<v Speaker 1>that affirmation of knowing that your work is being respected

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<v Speaker 1>and being accepted knowledge, right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Taraji? I just love her reaction. She was like,

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<v Speaker 2>someone said, you were happier than Regina King. Regina was

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<v Speaker 2>surprised you were excitic.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like that Mama happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she said literally like on stage, Yes, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And she gave her those the most amazing bear hug.

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<v Speaker 1>You could feel the love and that hug and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just and you know what, Taraji, it wasn't like she

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<v Speaker 1>was putting up her front because I follow her on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't follow her, the real Taraji. She has

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<v Speaker 1>always been posting about Viola Davis. She posts this amazing

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<v Speaker 1>cover of them on on Ebony magazine from like a

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<v Speaker 1>million years ago, and wrote a cute little story about

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<v Speaker 1>how Viola asked her to be on the cover with her.

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<v Speaker 1>And there you can just tell from that to that

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<v Speaker 1>commercial that played you.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch I Do Carrie Washington, May J Blige and Taji

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<v Speaker 2>and Taraji.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's not like girl like Brown Girl Magic, just

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<v Speaker 1>getting along just to see like three first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>three women of color, just listening to music at home,

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<v Speaker 1>just dancing with each other, talking about boys, yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>like just having a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when you when you see that on teac, Like

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<v Speaker 2>just pure positivity, which I love, so a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more Brown Girl Magic. Manny and I both attend. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>it was our anniversary, Mandy what our friend our friend anniversary,

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<v Speaker 2>our friend of hers, Yes, because I didn't because last

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<v Speaker 2>year so Mandy had written like a story or two

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<v Speaker 2>about me, like in her when she worked at a

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<v Speaker 2>business Insider, but I had never met her personally, and

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<v Speaker 2>she went to fincann last year for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, is what is FINCN for the people who aren't

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<v Speaker 1>big vats.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. So fin con is a financial Blockers Conference,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's really expanded to financial education, blogging, media, brands, companies,

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<v Speaker 2>all things personal finance. And so it's just a conference

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<v Speaker 2>for those people who are involved in those avenues and

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<v Speaker 2>teaching personal finance. And so Mandy went for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time last year to FINCNN New Orleans and that was

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<v Speaker 2>my first time as well, and I think I tweeted

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<v Speaker 2>and we tweeted each other and she's like, oh, you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm here. You want to meet me for a

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<v Speaker 2>beignet or whatever? And I said sure, and we ended

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<v Speaker 2>up going for a walk and just like hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's when we see the friendship with planting.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some lovely string music should be having.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's our f anniversary. So I'm like, you said, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get you anything, but you know, your presence

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<v Speaker 2>is a present. And so we went to FINCN. We

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<v Speaker 2>just got back. It was in Charlotte this year and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just such a beautiful brown magic moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Moments, many moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what was your favorite brown magic moment?

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite thing about finn CONN this year was so there. FINCNN,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all was a record year. There was over

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<v Speaker 1>I think eight hundred different I saw nine hundred, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly one thousand financial bloggers all gathering, just taking over Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a very there's a very small group

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<v Speaker 1>of brown bloggers, and I know that it's grown since

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<v Speaker 1>the fincann's been around five years. I heard that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a handful of the first year and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>up to like, I don't know, maybe fifty. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very small and a small group and it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to find each other when you're in this huge conference

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<v Speaker 1>and there's always people around. And something Tiffany did that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to point out was she arranged this group

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<v Speaker 1>dinner for all of us to get together, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, had its answered by Prudential. Shout Outdential, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Prudential, what you thought they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to have like ten people and then it was like fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no. Originally the woman from Prudential, Alicia, who I love,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, oh, you know, let's have dinner me,

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<v Speaker 2>you and two other brown personal finance you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>experts that she knew. And I said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a bunch of other brown folks that I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you should meet, and she said sure. So the

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<v Speaker 2>list grew and grew and grew, and what was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be three you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just said it was free food. So I think you exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was supposed to be three people balloon that

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, oh, maybe like twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was over twenty yeah, like twenty five, twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>packed the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so it was just amazing because we got

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of express ourselves in a way that only

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<v Speaker 2>brown folks can and just share our experiences and our stories.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just such a beautiful time.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Lynette Calathani come.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, she walked in. We were all like

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<v Speaker 2>the godmother, the fairy Godmother of Brown personal find has

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<v Speaker 2>entered the room.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not going to give too much away. She

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<v Speaker 1>is our guest on next week's podcast. You guys have

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<v Speaker 1>to stay tuned because she literally gave us life, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of our ambition tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just so awesome because it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a great place for us, you know, to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just be ourselves and just express, you know, how we

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<v Speaker 2>felt being brown bloggers and brown financial educators and brown writers.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just was just so much love in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>We took so many pictures and ate such great food

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<v Speaker 2>there for three hours. Yeah, and we could have gone longer,

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<v Speaker 2>could have, but we were just like I think the

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant was closing. They were like, get out, brown people.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew it was up when they saw us walking.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, this is gonna be a long night.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've told you guys before just what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that I haven't I haven't had the privilege to work

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<v Speaker 1>with another woman who is African American in a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time, like someone I could just look to and

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<v Speaker 1>like oh I understand, or like yeah, girl, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>like that kind of recognition. And it's I I was

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting back like, man, I'm a lucky chick me

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<v Speaker 1>in the club. I'm so glad. It's so nice to

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and be like, yeah, all the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through as a woman, you know, in business journalism,

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<v Speaker 1>as a woman of color and business journalism, I can

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<v Speaker 1>actually look around the room and just like nod and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone just gets it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't even have to like bring up all these

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<v Speaker 1>data challenges, just like you just look at each other

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I know, and it's in the struggle

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<v Speaker 1>real and we're doing it together exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I liked about it. There was just

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<v Speaker 2>this air of positivity, like you're right. There wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of oh, isn't it so hard? Isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>so terrible? Being brown and personal finance. It was really

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<v Speaker 2>just this is how I got here. What I really

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<v Speaker 2>heard a lot was I'm here because of service, and

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to help, and you know, I've made

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<v Speaker 2>my own mistakes, so I'm trying to help other people.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like, honestly, love on love.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And when how often do you get to sit

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<v Speaker 1>around a room with like how often do we in

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<v Speaker 1>our daily daily lives sit around and just look at

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished people of color talking about their accomplishment exactly? It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was pretty extraordinary. So and it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>girls we have to say brown girl magic, but brown

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<v Speaker 1>guy magic too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a few. There were like five and

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<v Speaker 2>then So not to toot my own horn or anything. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let me do it, Okay, good god you goines.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany Alice, the Budget Neist to Herself is the Plutus

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<v Speaker 1>Award winner for the best Financial Education program of twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, what does that mean? So Polute a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So Polluta is what I really love about Plutus is like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no real awards for personal finance. A few, not

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<v Speaker 2>for blogging, yes, not for blogging. And so they started

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<v Speaker 2>the Pollutus Awards and maybe like five years ago, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little longer, and it's kind of like what I

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<v Speaker 2>like to say, it's like the Oscars Grammys, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's true, but it sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>The Oscars Grammy slash what's the other one? Emmy's for

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<v Speaker 2>personal finance bloggers. And so to win an award like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, nine hundred people and to win an award

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<v Speaker 2>for the Live Ritual Challenges, it just was so amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, I was not expecting it. I was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in my seat. I was already told that I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, I'm on periscope, I was ready the film on

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany Walks on the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew I was good. Like literally, someone told

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<v Speaker 2>me earlier, Oh, I saw the voting and you're losing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, oh, okay. So I was really prepared,

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<v Speaker 2>not to win. And so I'm sitting in my seat

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<v Speaker 2>next to my my fin Con roomy and they read

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<v Speaker 2>the nominees. Are you know they read my name. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's cute. And then they say live Richer Challenge. And

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<v Speaker 2>as I was getting up, I was so full of emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, don't cry, don't cry, which of course made

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna cry. So I get up there, I'm crying.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't know you weren't allowed to do speeches,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, why is he not handing me the mics?

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<v Speaker 2>So I totally did the brown Mama thing. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>give me the mic. I took the mic, and I

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<v Speaker 2>like squeaked out in my tearful voice, thank you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I walked off the same thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I walked off stage and dignified.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it was, and yeah, so you're not stiffening.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so awesome, especially since the Literature Challenge, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a year ago. When I met you at the

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<v Speaker 1>last pin Con, you were just like the Literature Challenge

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<v Speaker 1>was just getting off the ground. You were looking for

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<v Speaker 1>sponsors and you were hearing a lot of nose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of nos. And honestly, it hadn't even

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<v Speaker 2>started yet. I was just signing people up and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>literally everyone said no everyone, So it was kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Except for thirty thousand women around the world. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you signed up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah yeah, hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany's driving the ship. I'm on it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what I really love about the challenge

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not about me. A lot of the women

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<v Speaker 2>who sign up literally don't know me. They just know

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and so it's just this awesome community of women,

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<v Speaker 2>especially women of color. And just to see the reception

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<v Speaker 2>a year later, there was this one bank in particular

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<v Speaker 2>that I just really wanted to work with and last

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<v Speaker 2>year they weren't really that interested, and they literally leapt

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<v Speaker 2>at the chance to sit down with me this year.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just a lesson in that that just because

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<v Speaker 2>something is hard doesn't mean it's not working. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a reminder of that. And it was, just,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, a lot of brown awesomeness, brown girl magic.

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<v Speaker 1>So proud of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Literature Challenge is still going on right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm going to be launching. So what I

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<v Speaker 2>diday is that every year we'll do a new live

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<v Speaker 2>Richer Challenge every January, so in about November I'll start

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<v Speaker 2>sign up again.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the website?

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<v Speaker 2>People can go live Richer Challenge dot com. Excellent, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>and it's free. You know, I love me some free.

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<v Speaker 1>Three niney nine.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's it. This is a good bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>Any other bron Girl magic things you want to share?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Viola, Tiffany, Ali, Taraji, Regina, Carrie, Mary J. Blige.

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<v Speaker 1>Uzzo Adoba did I mention that Uzzo Adoba is gonna am?

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<v Speaker 1>I saying her name? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I. Uzzo Odoba's a Nigerian sister, so Uzo, she's Nigerian.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually met her and she's Ebo, which is my tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>You met her? What does she smell like?

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<v Speaker 2>She actually was really med at first. She was a

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<v Speaker 2>little weirded out because I wanted to She was her

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<v Speaker 2>backwards to me and I didn't know how to get

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<v Speaker 2>her attention, so I lightly tapped on her shoulders. She

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<v Speaker 2>looked like, why are you touching me? Yeah? Exactly. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a creeper and then I quickly said, Uzo, I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to thank you for being you and do

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<v Speaker 2>you and allowing because you have followed your dreams. You

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<v Speaker 2>have made it more acceptable for a Nigerian woman like

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<v Speaker 2>me to do the same. And she totally lit up

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<v Speaker 2>and like grabbed my hand and said, thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for that, because she knows how hard it is

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<v Speaker 2>to be a child of Nigeria and not choose doctor, lawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pharmacist, engineer.

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<v Speaker 1>For another podcast, we're gonna talk about that, disappointing your

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<v Speaker 1>Nigerian parents, your career choices, Uzo, and she's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>starring in The Whiz.

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<v Speaker 2>Just some a little amazing this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know we should have her on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you think she'd come Stretch goals.

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<v Speaker 1>Stretch goals maybe in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your bonus. Brown Ambition. Hope you guys enjoyed us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you can find us, do not forget. You

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<v Speaker 2>could always email us at the Brown Ambition Podcast at

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<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Find us on Twitter at the BA podcast, or on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>The group is called Brown Ambition Yes more time. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a lovely rest of your week, guys. Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay brown.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not Brown, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Fi