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Speaker 1: You guys, we are here with a very special bonus episode.

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Speaker 1: You thought you only get in one episode this week,

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Speaker 1: but you're actually getting two because we could not wait

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Speaker 1: exact to talk to you guys about this excellent week

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Speaker 1: of Brown Girl Magic those for most those from us.

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Speaker 1: So in the special bonus episode of Brown Ambition, we

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Speaker 1: want to start by talking about the incredible Emmys this

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Speaker 1: past Sunday. I don't think I've ever sat through an

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Speaker 1: award show. I was on. I was like interested the

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Speaker 1: entire time, from beginning to end.

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Speaker 2: Really honestly, I'm not gonna lie I didn't watch it,

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Speaker 2: but I did watch the clips that everybody was talking about.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was a huge night if you if

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Speaker 1: you didn't watch if You're Living under a Rock, Viola Davis,

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Speaker 1: the incomparable Viola Davis How to Get Away with Mud

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Speaker 1: walked away with the first dramatic Emmy for a black

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Speaker 1: woman in Emmy's history.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: History was made on that stage.

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Speaker 2: Yes. And then Regina King, one of my faves on faves,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I used to love Regina Kin from two

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Speaker 2: well deserved Emmy.

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Speaker 1: For her role in American Crime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually liked that show. She was so

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Speaker 2: good in it.

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Speaker 1: She's so good in everything. It is so nice to

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Speaker 1: see these, you know, amazing actresses. You know, forget their

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Speaker 1: the Emmys. So I don't know if you guys watch,

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Speaker 1: if you've done it, but this movie on HBO called

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Speaker 1: Olive Kidderidge did not watch it. Apparently it was real

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Speaker 1: good though, because it won like a bajillion awards and

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Speaker 1: one of the lead actress, Frances McDormand, who's this. I

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Speaker 1: this is great. Oh, another Emmy. I guess I'll have

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Speaker 1: Like you saw Regina's acceptance speech and Viola's acceptance speech.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten to Uzo Aduba from Oranges.

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Speaker 2: To New Black, my fellow Nigerian lady.

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Speaker 1: They had me. They were literally in tears. And that's

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Speaker 1: what we mean when we talk about really feeling like

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Speaker 2: What about Taraji? I just love her reaction. She was like,

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Speaker 2: Yes, she said literally like on stage, Yes, I thought

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Speaker 1: just and you know what, Taraji, it wasn't like she

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Speaker 1: If you don't follow her, the real Taraji. She has

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Speaker 1: always been posting about Viola Davis. She posts this amazing

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Speaker 1: And there you can just tell from that to that

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's not like girl like Brown Girl Magic, just

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Speaker 2: more Brown Girl Magic. Manny and I both attend. Actually

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Speaker 2: it was our anniversary, Mandy what our friend our friend anniversary,

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Speaker 2: And so it's our f anniversary. So I'm like, you said, Mandy,

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Speaker 1: Moments, many moments.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what was your favorite brown magic moment?

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Speaker 1: My favorite thing about finn CONN this year was so there. FINCNN,

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Speaker 2: And it was just such a beautiful time.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she walked in. We were all like

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Speaker 2: And it was just so awesome because it was just

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Speaker 2: It was just like, honestly, love on love.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Alice, the Budget Neist to Herself is the Plutus

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Speaker 1: Award winner for the best Financial Education program of twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: there's no real awards for personal finance. A few, not

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Speaker 2: for blogging, yes, not for blogging. And so they started

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Speaker 1: So proud of you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm going to be launching. So what I

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Speaker 1: What's the website?

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Speaker 2: People can go live Richer Challenge dot com. Excellent, Thanks

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Speaker 2: and it's free. You know, I love me some free.

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Speaker 1: Three niney nine.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's it. This is a good bonus.

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Speaker 2: Any other bron Girl magic things you want to share?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Viola, Tiffany, Ali, Taraji, Regina, Carrie, Mary J. Blige.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I. Uzzo Odoba's a Nigerian sister, so Uzo, she's Nigerian.

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Speaker 2: Actually met her and she's Ebo, which is my tribe.

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Speaker 1: For another podcast, we're gonna talk about that, disappointing your

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Speaker 2: Just some a little amazing this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know we should have her on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I know you think she'd come Stretch goals.

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Speaker 1: Stretch goals maybe in the future.

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Speaker 2: Well that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's your bonus. Brown Ambition. Hope you guys enjoyed us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you can find us, do not forget. You

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Speaker 2: could always email us at the Brown Ambition Podcast at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Find us on Twitter at the BA podcast, or on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: The group is called Brown Ambition Yes more time. Have

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Speaker 1: a lovely rest of your week, guys. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Stay brown.

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Speaker 1: If you're not Brown, it's okay.

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