1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Ever been a lot of waiting by the phone. It's 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: the Fredshell. Hey, Jesse, good morning, welcome to the program. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: How are you hey, I'm doing good things. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Are you all right doing? Okay? What's going on with 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: this woman? Summer on waiting by the phone? 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Here? 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: You guys, tell us how you met, and then about 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: any dates that you've been on, and then why do 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: you think you're being ghosted? And how we can help. 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we met on Tinder and she was beautiful, 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: and so I, you know, I wanted to make a 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: good impression and it seemed to work. I got her 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: number and we had some drinks. It was a Friday 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: that that was the night that we hung out and 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: got a little tipsy after after hanging and we ended 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: up back at her place okay, and yeah, yeah we did. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: We hooked up and I thought that was a good sign. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, green flag, green flag, green flag, 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: all across the board. And then she goes to me 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: like like nothing, like I even like waited a little bit, 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, didn't want to, Like I didn't want to 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: you know, seem desperate or anything. But like now it's 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: just like I don't know, we had good chemistry. I 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: thought like not just physical, but also like I don't know, 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: I thought there was something more. Yeah, So it's just 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: surprising to me that, like it's just complete ghosting after 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: like such a good time. 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: These are always the puzzling ones for me, where the 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: date went so well that you're back to someone's place 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: and stuff's going on and whatever. That that's usually all good. 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: So you know, it's kind of weird that then after 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: that you don't hear anything. And I'm sure I was 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: bugging you because you were probably excited about the potential 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: with Summer. So I'm gonna play a song. I'm gonna 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: come back in a couple of minutes, gonna call Summer. 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: You'll be on the phone. We'll ask these questions, see 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: if we can figure out what's going on. And you know, 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: as always, our hope is that we can straighten things 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: out and then set you guys up on another date. 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: And Pa, let's see what's up in parks to you 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: waiting by the phone right after Submarina Carpenter back in 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: two minutes. It's the Fred Show, the Carpenter, It's the 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Fred Show. It's tew hundred bucks with the show is 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: Shelley in ten minutes. You win. After the entertainer report 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: that's coming up to Hey Jesse, Hey, okay, let's call Summer. 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: You guys, you met on one of the apps. You 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: went out, had a great date, it went back to 49 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: her place. You guys messed around, you said, but you 50 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: have not heard from her since, and you're confused because 51 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: you thought everything went really well. You want to know 52 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: what's going on. Yeah, well, let's call her now. Good luck, Jesse, 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: thank you? 54 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: Hello. 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Hi? Is this Summer. 56 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 4: Hi? 57 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Yes, it is Hey Summer. Hi, good morning. My name 58 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show, the Morning 59 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: radio show, and I do have to tell you that 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: we are on the radio right now, and I do 61 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: need your permission to continue with the call. Can we 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: chat for just a second your mind? 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: Okay? Sure? 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much. We're calling on behalf of 65 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: a dude named Jesse who reached out to us. I 66 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: guess you met him on a dating app and recently 67 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: went on a date. Do you remember Do you recall 68 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: going out with this guy? Do you remember him? Yeah? Okay, 69 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: So he told us he called us. He told us 70 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: that he really enjoyed meeting you and thought the chemistry 71 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: was there. He said that you guys did mess around 72 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: at your place after the date that was you know, 73 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: he didn't get too specific, but he also says that 74 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: he has not been able to get ahold of you 75 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: since the date. You're not responding to him, and he 76 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: feels like he's being left on red. So what what's 77 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: going on? Why are you ghosting him? Why? 78 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: Well, I can't. 79 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 4: I can't believe I really have to share all these 80 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: details online or you know, on the phone. This is 81 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: a little weird. 82 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: It is a little weird, but we'd love to know 83 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: all the details. You don't have to, but we need. 84 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah you don't, you don't have to, but like you do, 85 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you could hang up, 86 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: but that'd be really upsetting to us. So what are 87 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: the details that you're reluctant to tell us? 88 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean you don't know and judge me here, 89 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: but yeah, we met and went out for drinks and 90 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 4: ended up pooking up at my place and I mean 91 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: it was it was fine. But yeah, I haven't really 92 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: caught him back for a reason, which is gosh, I 93 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: can't live I have to say this. Okay, Well, when 94 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: we were in bed. After we hooked up, he went 95 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: to get dressed, and I noticed his boxers had a 96 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: bunch of holes and then like in the back and 97 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: kind of kind of everywhere, and it was they looked 98 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: like they were. 99 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: Hanging on by a threat. 100 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 4: It was really literally kind of disturbing. Yeah, it was 101 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: kind of gross. 102 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: So you're you were disturbed by his ripped Holy Boxer 103 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: brief or Roxes shorts. I guess in this case, like 104 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: they just looked old and worn out. 105 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked very unsanitary. I'm just like thinking, you 106 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 4: know about I don't know all the gross things that 107 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: happened down there, and I don't. 108 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: Know how do you think those holes were created? Exactly like, Okay, 109 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: but y'all already hooked up. 110 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: I said, no judgment, I'm sorry, okay. 111 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I was just making sure I get it. I would 112 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: be like, you can't put on your goodonies for me. 113 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: But he already hid it. 114 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you need to have one pair of underwear 115 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't have holes of it. Okay, But here's my question. 116 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: You didn't apparently didn't see the underwear before the acts. 117 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: You're saying me, no, okay, But then in the process 118 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: of hooking up, with him, did you notice anything unsanitary, 119 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: like any strange smell, holes or I mean, did he 120 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: appear to be put together and sort of clean, you know, 121 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: other than the the old underwear. Okay, so yeah, there's 122 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: a chance there's a hole in my sock that I'm 123 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: wearing right now. There is a chance of it on 124 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: the bottom. I'm not I can't confirm or deny, but 125 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying like it just because there are holes in 126 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: underwear does not mean that the person is unclean, right, 127 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: that might have been his lucky underwear, like he knew, 128 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, look, let me ask him because he's here. 129 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: Jesse's been very quiet, But Jesse, what's up with the 130 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: holes in the underwear? Like why don't we get just get, 131 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, a new underwear that's a little more presentable. 132 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm I'm honestly like shocked that that's what that that's 133 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: what she said. I'm a little bit floored. I'll be 134 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: real like like I I I They're just like old boxes. 135 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: It was laundry day. I threw him on. I didn't 136 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: expect that we were gonna hook up, and you know, 137 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: things went well. I don't know, I don't know what 138 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: to tell you. I'm I'm surprised that that's that's the 139 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: hang up here. I thought everything was going good this summer. 140 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there could be reservations, Like I 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: don't know what else in your life have you not 142 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: replaced that? What does your house look like? 143 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: You know? 144 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: I guess I guess you could go there, But I 145 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: don't know that. I think he's unclean. They could be far. 146 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: That's too far. That's straight up too far. I like, 147 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: like from going from like having like Holy boxers to 148 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: not being clean. That's a stretch. I don't know. That 149 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: seems like a stretch for me, Jeffy. 150 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: It just tells me you don't like take care of 151 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: yourselfing I cried in what you wear, how you present yourself? 152 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: That was our first date. 153 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: I was cute. 154 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: I had nice underwar on. 155 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: Like yeah, I guess I do think about that, like 156 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: you did have to underwear on and like what's it? 157 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: What's it? Like? What's it mean? If I don't like 158 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: for the first time, like we mean like that you 159 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: mean it's the first it's the first encounter. 160 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean are you cheap? Like are you do 161 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: you not? I don't know, but I mean the clothes 162 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: he was wearing were presentable obviously, right, I mean summer. 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, everything led to a point where there 164 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 1: were no clothes, So everything leading up to you seeing 165 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: that gave you every indication that this is a guy 166 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: that you would like, and so he has holes in 167 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: his underwear, and so we can never talk to him again. 168 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Apparently like it. 169 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: I cannot see it. 170 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't blame you. Really, you would just qualify a 171 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: man with holes in his underwear. 172 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely at least have the decency to like kick it 173 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: under the bat or something to hide it, like get 174 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: rid of the evidence. 175 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: But he eventually has to put him back on to leave. 176 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially not to see that. 177 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll admit it. 178 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: I have had holes in my underwear before, like that's 179 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: normal for women. 180 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: However, I would never let a man see that, not 181 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: even my husband. 182 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 183 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: I mean, are we asking too much for just one 184 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: pair of underwear for a date without holes? 185 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: God? 186 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Okay, but we must remember it all led to the 187 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: point where there was no clothing, including the clothing with holes, 188 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: so everything was going to the communication was good, obviously, 189 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: he was presentable from the exterior, He was put together, 190 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: he was clean, he showered. I mean there were no issues. Wow, Well, 191 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm just. 192 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: Saying like it with a guy who doesn't shower for 193 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: three days, right, choice, that's true. 194 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: We don't know that all the underwear is this way. 195 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Like maybe he maybe that was just the last pair. 196 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: We've all been there, we've all been down to the 197 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: last pair. We're like, oh boy, he. 198 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: Commando, right like I laundry day. Okay, well. 199 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: We got another issue. Yeah, Hey, he's frustrated. He liked 200 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: the girl and he's upset. He's upset because he's being 201 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: out disqualified because of his holy underwear. All right, look, Summer, 202 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: let's say that we use part of the budget for 203 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: this date and we get the man some new shonies, Yeah, 204 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: some new fruit of the loom. We send the guy 205 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: over to Tommy John or whatever, get him some nice fancy, 206 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: some nice fancy boxer briefs. Then, Summer, would you give 207 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: him another chance? Or is it just too late? 208 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too late. It's just I'm not his mom, 209 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 4: and I already feel like we're momming him with the boxes, 210 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: saying like you should be like grown a doll, and no, 211 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: you shouldn't be wearing Holly underwear on a first date. 212 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point. I'm not asking for a lot. 213 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I hear you. I'm just I'm trying to 214 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm really trying to see the good of this. But 215 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: I understand you. This is your expectation. I think it's fair. 216 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm sorry, Jesse. We can't fix this one 217 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: for you. 218 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: No. I I found through this, through this chat that 219 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: I don't think it's skipped for me either. 220 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: But underw away, Let's just get some new underwear. Let's 221 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: make sure we don't have holes in our underwear. We 222 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: are grown ups. I mean, it's it's an easy thing 223 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: to do, right, Yeah, I mean. 224 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: Yes, that's I'll get new underwear. 225 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, good of us. We did our good deed today. 226 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: That's wonderful summer. Thank you for your time, Jesse, you 227 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: as well. Best have luck to both of you. 228 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 2: A