Speaker 1: He is Drink Chants, motherfucking podcast man. He's a legends
Speaker 1: every Queens rapper. He ain't sagreed as your boy in
Speaker 1: O r E.
Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop and mioneer p up as
Speaker 2: d j e f N. Together they drink it up
Speaker 2: with some of the biggest players, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one
Speaker 3: source for drunk.
Speaker 1: Drink Chans mother post for every days.
Speaker 2: Do you see that's it's time for Drink Champs. Drink up,
Speaker 2: motherfucking mother?
Speaker 1: Would it good? Be hoping he should be? This is
Speaker 1: your boy in O r E.
Speaker 4: What up?
Speaker 2: It is dj e f N.
Speaker 1: And this Drink Champs happy hour makes some know.
Speaker 5: When we talk about icon of icon, when we talk
Speaker 5: about legends of legends, this man has had at least
Speaker 5: two three four careers careers. So many people come and
Speaker 5: go in this rap game for you to sustain your success,
Speaker 5: like how this man has sustained and been a g
Speaker 5: about it the whole time.
Speaker 1: A lot of people would.
Speaker 5: Have lost their mind, went crazy, been rolling out here
Speaker 5: with fifteen thousand people. He came to dinner last night
Speaker 5: with his family Like that's gangster to me.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 5: Album after album, hit after hit, continuously to be relevant.
Speaker 5: You know, some say is the father of gangst the rap,
Speaker 5: and then to have a great career like that and
Speaker 5: then go on to dominate movies and dominate a TV
Speaker 5: show that TV show. But now fucking twenty five fucking years.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker.
Speaker 5: If you don't know what the fuck we're talking about
Speaker 5: at this point you're talking about, motherfucker, I.
Speaker 1: Want. I want to get straight to the speech. Straight
Speaker 1: to the speech.
Speaker 5: I never see a speech as I mean you, you
Speaker 5: and Snoopers focus cold because Snoop thinks yourself right, Yes,
Speaker 5: you think the haters.
Speaker 1: I think the hater But did you make.
Speaker 5: This speech up as you as you was talking or
Speaker 5: you had this written down?
Speaker 3: I walk I walked with that all every day. Like
Speaker 3: haters have always been my motivation. I actually have a
Speaker 3: clothing line called Power by Hate Wo which I've always
Speaker 3: been able to use, you know, the energy from them
Speaker 3: as my motivation. You know, Like all I gotta do
Speaker 3: is going in and thatt and I find somebody talking
Speaker 3: shit about me, then I'm go in the gym. I
Speaker 3: get you take that energy.
Speaker 1: This nigga fell off.
Speaker 3: That's why I need that because praise doesn't.
Speaker 1: Do much for me. I'm not that guy like it.
Speaker 1: Just I got it.
Speaker 3: So a bad show is what's gonna make me do
Speaker 3: a good show. So so I always like use it.
Speaker 3: So now I'm getting the start, right. You don't know
Speaker 3: how many times I've been arrested in Hollywood. I many
Speaker 3: times I've been faced down on them starts looking at it, Chris,
Speaker 3: you know, getting comfort. So now I've been I've been
Speaker 3: to Hollywood police stations so many times. So now that
Speaker 3: what a difference to day makes. Now they honoring me,
Speaker 3: and so I'm there. I'm in this moment right. I
Speaker 3: got Dick Wolfs and all the mon or the people there,
Speaker 3: Russell Simmons, ice Cube showed up, you know, all my
Speaker 3: GE's were there, and I'm saying all the right stuff,
Speaker 3: and then I just just hit me. Man, that shit
Speaker 3: just came out of nowhere. I said, Man, I think
Speaker 3: the fucking haters, Man, I got to get there. Y'all
Speaker 3: really pushed me and motivated me to get to this point.
Speaker 3: The fact you said I could not do it, So
Speaker 3: I tell you that it just happened then, and I
Speaker 3: think people dug it.
Speaker 1: It was organic authent caught the Holy Ghost.
Speaker 3: See what these motherfucking haters man, they got, But I
Speaker 3: love them because I need them.
Speaker 5: See that part envirorable. But you, but I suggest people
Speaker 5: go watch.
Speaker 1: The Holy Sage.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean, motivational host because a.
Speaker 5: Lot of people don't know you was cursing throughout the
Speaker 5: whole mother my curse.
Speaker 3: I use all kings English. I explained to people that
Speaker 3: even the term cursed, like you know, if you look
Speaker 3: up profanity and the dictionary, there's something which its blasphemous.
Speaker 3: Blasphemy would be saying the Lord's name in vain. So
Speaker 3: the only word that could be considered blasphemings would be
Speaker 3: God be damned. You know when I'm not gonna do
Speaker 3: no no eance and nothing shit here. But basically fuck, shit, bitch, ho,
Speaker 3: dirty hole, slut dish. These are just taboo words that
Speaker 3: bother people. So your parents would tell you if you
Speaker 3: say them words, you're gonna go to hell. But in
Speaker 3: that by them using those words, using that theory, saying fuck,
Speaker 3: it's gonna send you to hell, they and themselves are
Speaker 3: are creating something blasphemous. So if anybody's going to hell,
Speaker 3: it's your fucking parents for lying to you all these years,
Speaker 3: because I think profanity is just an explanation point you
Speaker 3: put into a sentence.
Speaker 1: You don't give.
Speaker 3: You example, your mother says, don't take the car. Your
Speaker 3: dad just don't touch my mother fucking car. What he
Speaker 3: did is he took a word, brought it into the
Speaker 3: sentence that brought your attention, because the car can't fuck
Speaker 3: more or less fuck his bitch, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So when we say these words, it's like they're just
Speaker 3: explanation points so to add to the statement. But they
Speaker 3: don't have they don't hold any marriage, They don't you know, bullshit?
Speaker 1: What is who have really ever seen bullshit? Like? You
Speaker 1: know what is a bull? How about dog shit?
Speaker 3: So I just use them so you know, and if
Speaker 3: you ask me not to, I won't. I can all
Speaker 3: so do that right, I can behave if it bothers you,
Speaker 3: offend you. But if I'm speaking freely, which I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm on drink champ.
Speaker 1: So occasionally the.
Speaker 3: Occasionally they'll pop out, and like you early said some
Speaker 3: about gangster rap, when I started rapping, I would curse
Speaker 3: or use profanity. That was new, that was new people
Speaker 3: to actually get on the record and just say talk
Speaker 3: the way people talk.
Speaker 1: That was new.
Speaker 2: It's like pain on the cameras.
Speaker 3: How old was you when I started rapping? I was
Speaker 3: about twenty six. Wow, Okay, I didn't start early. I
Speaker 3: actually had been in the streets, so I had some experience.
Speaker 3: You know, my wife would listening to rappers. He's like nineteen.
Speaker 3: I like, He's like, so, how could they have done
Speaker 3: all that? I said, they haven't. They haven't. I twenty seven.
Speaker 3: I've been in the military. I lived, I've been out there.
Speaker 3: I tried my luck in the streets. So by the
Speaker 3: time I was wrapping, my ship was loaded with information.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, twenty seven.
Speaker 2: What year was that?
Speaker 1: When you don't know, I don't know. I'm older those
Speaker 1: you know. I graduate from high school seventy six. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was born in seventy seven, Just seventy five.
Speaker 3: Don't make me sountu that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the last night you're hanging out, I got you
Speaker 5: to drink a glass of champagne.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you I don't drink, but I socially sip.
Speaker 3: Socially sip socially anywhere. But when you're socially sip, is
Speaker 3: it always champagne? I sometimes, like I'm out with my wife,
Speaker 3: She'll drink cranberry and vodka. And you know, depending on
Speaker 3: how you mix it can it's just you know, you
Speaker 3: can mix it strong. Sometimes I sip kolua and milk,
Speaker 3: which is kind of like Starbucks. Okay, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 3: know I've drank Jaeger mind like when people when I
Speaker 3: tell people I don't drink, what I mean is I don't.
Speaker 1: See a lot of shit. I don't sit at home.
Speaker 1: I don't sit at home and drink.
Speaker 3: You know, the homie just sitting home in it two
Speaker 3: in afternoon with the bourbon, like looking at television and
Speaker 3: it's on and that nigga and that's not me. And
Speaker 3: I never really drank when I was hanging out because
Speaker 3: I felt to compromised my position. I never thought being
Speaker 3: drunk was attractive. But hold home home for men or
Speaker 3: women because because yesterday you said you didn't, you didn't
Speaker 3: never taste it.
Speaker 5: I never tasted as so you introduced me to it.
Speaker 5: And it's decent what I did. What I didn't realize
Speaker 5: is you on holes. Not discrepancy, but misunderstanding about ninety
Speaker 5: nine problems.
Speaker 3: Well, think about the ninety let's go you want to
Speaker 3: go into jay Z.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants to get right. You know, he owes
Speaker 1: this that vein the number love for Jigger. That's right.
Speaker 3: I knew Jagger. I met jay Z way back in
Speaker 3: the day. Day came brought him to my house back
Speaker 3: when he was with Jazzo.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Jay Z was just a kid, so he wasn't really
Speaker 3: too much, but he was just there with Cain Kane
Speaker 3: was the boss.
Speaker 1: Everybody they take.
Speaker 3: See what happens in this podcast world is they'll take
Speaker 3: something I'm saying right now and they'll edit it with
Speaker 3: another something from someplace else, and it'll turned into a conversation.
Speaker 1: That not is not real.
Speaker 3: There's no beef between me and jay Z and ninety
Speaker 3: nine problems. But a lot of people didn't know that
Speaker 3: that was originally my song. So when they asked me
Speaker 3: about it, I said, that's originally my song. Then the
Speaker 3: podcast will go see Jay stole it.
Speaker 1: Jay did not steal it.
Speaker 3: You just explained to something playing in it. So you
Speaker 3: want to know the story the ninety nine problems. Since
Speaker 3: we're gonna drink here, let's go. I was with Brother
Speaker 3: Marquise from two Live Crew and Joe Brother Marquis was
Speaker 3: talking about whoop there it is? Now do you know
Speaker 3: the story behind woop there?
Speaker 1: It is? Whoop there it is?
Speaker 3: Is what they used to say a Magic City when
Speaker 3: the girls would bend over and you could see they
Speaker 3: pussy wow.
Speaker 1: I learned what.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: Tag team with the DJs and Magic City, I now
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 1: So when the girls but.
Speaker 5: It is because I just want to be clear. Magic
Speaker 5: City is a strip at yeah left, I'll tell you
Speaker 5: my Miami.
Speaker 2: Because he said, brother, Marquis.
Speaker 3: Atlanta tag team where the DJ's in the club. They
Speaker 3: were the strip club DJs, and that was what they
Speaker 3: say when the girl a whooped there it is? So
Speaker 3: now that became a big hit record. Marquis's at my house.
Speaker 3: He's like nigga.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there on them nights.
Speaker 2: That was the phrase. It pays, you know.
Speaker 3: And then out of nowhere, he said, man, I got
Speaker 3: nine or nine probably, but bitch ain't won. I said,
Speaker 3: what the fuck did you just say? He said, I
Speaker 3: got note. I said that's a record. Mark, that's a record.
Speaker 3: So he says, okay, fuck with it. So I write
Speaker 3: the record. I got a hold from the east, I
Speaker 3: got a hole from the West. I got a hold
Speaker 3: of likes and jacket off and rub it in the chest.
Speaker 3: I got a bitchman North, a bitchman South, A bitches
Speaker 3: like the sucking long and hold it in the mouth.
Speaker 1: I got a.
Speaker 3: Bitch with air, a bitch with none, a bitch with
Speaker 3: a knife, a bitch with a gun, a bitch with
Speaker 3: a as big as a TV set. And it's a
Speaker 3: bitch over there, hey, the one I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1: But yo, what maybe not? She may not like me though,
Speaker 1: no sweat to a vet.
Speaker 3: A fuck a sister though word, I rocked the whole
Speaker 3: damn herd, fuck them all and put them on the curb.
Speaker 3: I got a bitch with a mink who rocks, a
Speaker 3: fat gold link who likes to fuck me with an
Speaker 3: ass upon the kitchen sink. I got a bitch with tits,
Speaker 3: a bitch with ass, a bitch with none, But hey,
Speaker 3: I give her a pass. And I love them all.
Speaker 3: I love them crazily and they love me back. That's
Speaker 3: why they stay with me. So if you're having girl
Speaker 3: problems out for baby your son, I got ninety nine problem.
Speaker 3: So that was that was. That was on the home invasion.
Speaker 3: Now so it's more, you know, it goes on and on,
Speaker 3: and Marquise says, ryme, So, so what happens the way
Speaker 3: the story goes, Rick Rubin was producing jay Z in
Speaker 3: the studio and Chris Rock was there. This is the
Speaker 3: story I got Chris is an iced Tea fan because
Speaker 3: we bonded from New jack City.
Speaker 1: Hooky Pooky, that's my look, I saved this life. Well
Speaker 1: he got killed Poogy got it later.
Speaker 3: So he calling me. So Apparently they said Chris gave
Speaker 3: Rick the idea to do nine nine proms and so
Speaker 3: that's where they decided to do the song. The cold
Speaker 3: thing is jay Z when he did the song, he
Speaker 3: even took the hit that.
Speaker 1: The got me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, he got that. But so she does
Speaker 3: the record The Rector is a hit.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I had a publishing deal with Warner Brothers. When you
Speaker 3: anybody knows what a publishing deal is. You can sell
Speaker 3: your publishing to people for a year and and they
Speaker 3: will give you the money.
Speaker 1: I want to I don't know, Okay, okay, it was
Speaker 1: Warner so it could have been it could have been Universe.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I had a publishing deal so for that year they
Speaker 3: pay you at front, like say For instance, over a year,
Speaker 3: you might make two three hundred thousand on your publishing.
Speaker 3: With a publishing deal, you say, give me that up front,
Speaker 3: and then after that number will split it fifty to
Speaker 3: fifty and then at the end of the year I
Speaker 3: get it back and I could do it. So that's
Speaker 3: a publishing deal. During the time I did the nine
Speaker 3: nine Problems, I was in a publishing deal, so that
Speaker 3: money just I didn't get paid. It went off to
Speaker 3: the deal and that's how it happened. Jay Z didn't
Speaker 3: steal it. So the end of the story is it
Speaker 3: hits the internet and everybody teased pistol.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not even pisted. It's tripped for somebody
Speaker 1: to say you mad and you're not mad. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad. Why are they're making me mad? Right?
Speaker 1: So I'm at the Grammys. So I see jay Z
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Now, jay Z is another has turned into a whole
Speaker 3: nother thing, right, you know, But I respect that. Once
Speaker 3: he got married, he like, he's now I respect marriage. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: I can't we don't, you know. So anyway, I see
Speaker 3: him and he smiles at me. He goes, is you
Speaker 3: mad at me?
Speaker 1: He said no. He says, you know I love you, right,
Speaker 1: I said I love you. I said yeah, and he
Speaker 1: said I said, jay Z, that's not by my work, right.
Speaker 1: And so then at the end I said, but Jay.
Speaker 3: During it, at the end of the record, you could
Speaker 3: have said I.
Speaker 1: I could have used it. I'm not a billionaire, Jay,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: But no, no, all love and you know, once again,
Speaker 3: this is what the press can do and steer shipping beef.
Speaker 1: That's not every beef.
Speaker 2: To be clear, though, did your publishing collect off of that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they did.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did. But no,
Speaker 3: there was no check written. I didn't get nothing like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, just recently. Ice Cube is a neat teenage
Speaker 3: ninja mutant t N Turtles, right, and so I'm watching
Speaker 3: TV and I hear the fucking Turtles say, uh, six
Speaker 3: in the morning, police at my door. No way, right,
Speaker 3: you heard it? That's your ship, right. So I got paid.
Speaker 3: That goes to publishing and stuff like that. And I
Speaker 3: got a little check because I got my publishing back.
Speaker 3: Now I own my publisher. So I got a check.
Speaker 3: I want to tell tell you, but I got paid.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, So yeah, it's publishing Jamie.
Speaker 1: I know he's not drinking, but can we go over
Speaker 1: him a glass of champagne?
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me, give me something, give me, give me
Speaker 3: something from the top shelf.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, yeah, I don't have no beef nobody. Man,
Speaker 3: I've made managed to navigate this, this hip hop ship
Speaker 3: without any drama with any What leads to my next
Speaker 3: question here, Well.
Speaker 1: I'm a hustler.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm your pusher, right that L Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you got the crackhead taking everybody else's music. But when
Speaker 5: you over him music the cracker and said no, man.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to LLL's.
Speaker 2: It's called drink Champs or beat champ.
Speaker 5: As a fan, I want to know how that started.
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 3: Okay, this story has been told, but this is how
Speaker 3: it happened. L was LL was the nigga at the time.
Speaker 3: LLLL was out, you know, insurmountable beat subject of discussion.
Speaker 3: You're motivated by that. I need so I'm into ll Right,
Speaker 3: But ll had came out and said I'm the greatest
Speaker 3: all time.
Speaker 1: Early in his career, he started to go thing, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm coming from L a.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a hot rapper, so I had
Speaker 3: to go at him.
Speaker 1: That's just the culture. So I took off on l A.
Speaker 3: Fuck this nigga, like that's what's happening, right, not like
Speaker 3: I want to shoot him, just fuck you. You ain't
Speaker 3: the best rapper at the time, I thought, But I
Speaker 3: was a pretty good rapper, okay.
Speaker 1: And that's what it was.
Speaker 3: I started it pretty much.
Speaker 1: That's it. I started it right.
Speaker 3: So lll comes back with the break of Dawn. He
Speaker 3: he just me call me a little rap raccoon and
Speaker 3: some shit. Because I had the ponytail and we was
Speaker 3: about to come back. I had another song called open Contract, right,
Speaker 3: and at that point Lle wanted to be part of
Speaker 3: Zulu Nation. And at that time I was higher up
Speaker 3: in Zulu because Africa Islam. It put me in the game,
Speaker 3: so was the president design. So they come to me
Speaker 3: asking me, can l be in Zulu. I'm like, nah, no,
Speaker 3: I can't so because I had a little power.
Speaker 1: So it went back and forth and stuff.
Speaker 3: But Bam Bob at the time just said, yo, we
Speaker 3: need peace, peace, peace peace. So me and Elle agreed
Speaker 3: not to talk shit about each other. We didn't do
Speaker 3: no handshakes of hugs and kisses or make record. We
Speaker 3: just said, you know, you squashed it. We agree not
Speaker 3: to be at each other. So I never said anything
Speaker 3: else negative about l He never said anything else negative
Speaker 3: about me. Fast forward twenty years, We're in Monte Carlo
Speaker 3: at a television convention.
Speaker 1: Right to skip over Monte Carlo maybe the flyest spot
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 3: French motherfucking riviera, y'achs everywhere.
Speaker 1: And it's immediately now. We weren't on a vacation.
Speaker 3: It was a TV convention where people from television in
Speaker 3: the United States would go over there, and they had
Speaker 3: like the award ceremony and all that old bullshit. So
Speaker 3: I'm over there and I look across the thing. I
Speaker 3: see El cool Jay something to walk over the l
Speaker 3: up cool Jay. Right, twenty years, we have never really talked.
Speaker 1: Have yall saw each other and not talk or never?
Speaker 2: We never crossed paths.
Speaker 3: Okay, continue, we never crossed paths, but it was never
Speaker 3: no real beef.
Speaker 1: It was just rap shit. You can't have beefing money
Speaker 1: callo anyway.
Speaker 2: So what if it's disrespectful squash that ship there?
Speaker 3: I mean, it all depends on who you some ship.
Speaker 2: Is on site.
Speaker 3: So so so anyway, I walked over to L I said, Yo, man,
Speaker 3: little lilong years with this, that and the third man.
Speaker 1: You know, just want to let you know, you know,
Speaker 1: even even.
Speaker 3: Back then, what I you know, I just I didn't
Speaker 3: necessarily apologize. I just clarified my position that I wasn't
Speaker 3: mad or we wasn't tight. He said, ice, it was
Speaker 3: the culture, man, and that's like that. And then he
Speaker 3: turned he said, man, I need you, He says, I
Speaker 3: got up. I'm doing this rock the Bells radio and
Speaker 3: I need to get at you so me and you
Speaker 3: could show our you know, this this right for the culture.
Speaker 3: And since then, me and ll I've been on his
Speaker 3: podcast I'm not a podcast but live stream and we
Speaker 3: chopped it up and we would just recently at the
Speaker 3: Grammys together.
Speaker 1: I mean, see real beefs real beef.
Speaker 3: Real beef never dies, real beef, real beef is murdered.
Speaker 1: Right death, that's that never dies. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: You know, if somebody killed somebody that you love, that's
Speaker 3: not going no much. We ain't hugging lady nigga. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But everything else is not necessarily
Speaker 3: real beef. Somebody ripped you off some money, this, that,
Speaker 3: and the other. You might be able to get over that,
Speaker 3: you know. So rap shit is not nowhere near real beef.
Speaker 3: That's not real, you know, not in my book.
Speaker 1: That's real ship. So again, sorry, there we go. Be
Speaker 1: anybody else who is looking to that too?
Speaker 2: No, No, it's just say something.
Speaker 1: Last time year. We want to talk about that.
Speaker 5: Last night, were out and you play. We play on
Speaker 5: the speaker all night. They're playing the War Report. You're
Speaker 5: playing one of.
Speaker 2: Noggs Sanvers graduate. Hold on, let me.
Speaker 1: Builds up to it.
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there and I usually be like, come on,
Speaker 5: because I don't want to hear my own ship. That
Speaker 5: one day right then too, it's like, you know it
Speaker 5: was a different center, but I didn't say nothing to you,
Speaker 5: and I just you walk.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 5: Today is the twenty sixth anniversary of the Ward Court.
Speaker 1: How the fuck did I didn't even know?
Speaker 5: I keep playing this shit all late and I'm looking
Speaker 5: and I was just like, I usually, please, man, I
Speaker 5: don't want to hear my own ship, but for some reason,
Speaker 5: I was just like, I can't tell ice nothing. Sit
Speaker 5: I wake up this morning and all I see, I
Speaker 5: was like, I said, this motherfucker told me. It was
Speaker 5: basically like you was telling me that last night.
Speaker 3: Look, Norie, this is what you don't understand to me, right,
Speaker 3: That's who you are to me, right, you know, like La,
Speaker 3: we had our rappers, our gangster rappers, whether it was
Speaker 3: Spice one or myself or bick a Few one, all
Speaker 3: all all us ghetto boys. But we knew who was
Speaker 3: doing this similar shit in west on the East coast
Speaker 3: Queens to us was the most replicated gangster rap, the best,
Speaker 3: whether it's mob deep with its nas. I mean, also
Speaker 3: we gotta go with Mop, you gotta go with Kopona,
Speaker 3: Nori Yega. We know who is doing that shit. That
Speaker 3: a political gangster shit, gangster shit. Gangster rap is a
Speaker 3: political It means like fuck the laws. I am the law,
Speaker 3: and this is how I see shit. You cost me
Speaker 3: you die. That's gangster rap, right, That's what Nori and
Speaker 3: there was Iraq and all that bloody money like yo
Speaker 3: were like who these.
Speaker 2: Niggas, Who these niggas?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah who yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm feeling that right now I see him like
Speaker 3: now people see me as the police.
Speaker 1: But when I.
Speaker 3: Right right, Because if you're twenty, I've been on TV
Speaker 3: twenty five years playing the car. So if you see
Speaker 3: me on TV you twenty one, twenty two, you have
Speaker 3: no reference point to me as anything other than that.
Speaker 3: My reference point to Nori is not drink champs, but
Speaker 3: it's the what what what like that you know, like
Speaker 3: you get shot ship right.
Speaker 1: And I don't even think a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Who really set up with him on here realize how
Speaker 3: dangerous his music was or is. They don't they they
Speaker 3: get it even if they caught the end of it
Speaker 3: when they you know, they like, you know a lot
Speaker 3: of candles swim laps around, ain't you? That's not that
Speaker 3: gangster ship that niggas was doing earlier.
Speaker 1: The early ship was violent.
Speaker 3: Which I like, right, So I come in bumping that
Speaker 3: ship through my little speaker. I still listen to that,
Speaker 3: said me right now. If you're in my car, we
Speaker 3: listen to Mob Deep. We listening to that kind of
Speaker 3: heavy ship. I just it puts me in a zone,
Speaker 3: It keeps me on like this. I love it.
Speaker 2: Look, this is my reference point.
Speaker 1: That this is one of my favorite albums. Thank you
Speaker 1: Original Gangster.
Speaker 5: So I was gonna wear my rich Yard. But I said,
Speaker 5: let me remote warrior because of the camouflage.
Speaker 1: It's only gangs, it's only what do you have on?
Speaker 1: It's another Richard. Why you say Richard because I'm.
Speaker 5: Trying to sound I'm trying to sound rich That's how
Speaker 5: they pronounced it.
Speaker 1: Right, Richard, Richard Richard mill. I thought he was going
Speaker 1: with the other Richard that he had on yesterday.
Speaker 5: He just busted another one. Come on, that makes no
Speaker 5: noise for that motherfucker. Another thing we were talking about
Speaker 5: was don't get me robbed.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you're good. You're good.
Speaker 3: I mean telling niggas. He's swatches. They look like swatches.
Speaker 3: They looked like Swatch swatches, like.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, come on, man, one time where jewelry.
Speaker 1: One thing. One thing that was funny is.
Speaker 5: We were talking yesterday and you said that how at
Speaker 5: that time you was frowned upon to join a TV show,
Speaker 5: you was looked at like a Will Smith or like
Speaker 5: like like you know, like like he was looking like
Speaker 5: you was selling out at that time.
Speaker 1: Look do everything I done.
Speaker 3: It seemed weird to nick Is in the street, like
Speaker 3: when I start rapping niggas like you're a rapper, like
Speaker 3: you rapping like nigga, we getting money, nigga. We were
Speaker 3: out here doing our ship, you know, you rapping like
Speaker 3: it was whack till they all went to prison and
Speaker 3: came home and now they work for me, you know.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: But at the time, like, nigga, you better come get
Speaker 3: this money. Stop playing with rapt niggas like they were.
Speaker 3: We was wat like nigga, you dance, nigga. We don't
Speaker 3: dance nigga like.
Speaker 2: You know you was a B boy he was out there.
Speaker 1: But I liked it.
Speaker 3: See I got I got hit by the hip hop
Speaker 3: bug I wanted to be a DJ, a B boy
Speaker 3: all that. But my street cats that was not happy
Speaker 3: because there was no money in it. It ain't no
Speaker 3: money in it. They like, why are you doing it?
Speaker 3: Waste time? So I would hustle on the week and
Speaker 3: on the weekends I would go to the club and
Speaker 3: beat and play rapper. But as far as being an actor,
Speaker 3: of course, when I started acting, no one had acted yet.
Speaker 3: Nobody will Smith, nobody, nobody. I was the first rapper
Speaker 3: to take on a dramatic role.
Speaker 1: And what role was that? Uh? My firsd very first
Speaker 1: role has to be New Jack City.
Speaker 3: Wow, that was the first time because you had tougher
Speaker 3: than leather. Correct me if I'm wrong. You had tougher
Speaker 3: than leather. You had, you had a beach streets, you
Speaker 3: had crush groove but nobody. But at that time, the
Speaker 3: rappers were playing rat right right right, So I had
Speaker 3: to play a cop and that was That was a
Speaker 3: trip too, because that was the year I dropped the
Speaker 3: original Gangster album. I was terrified. I thought I was
Speaker 3: committing career suicide. Yeah, but uh, you know, I took
Speaker 3: the chance I got. I told you that story. I
Speaker 3: got pressed like I used to get my hair done right.
Speaker 3: You know, remember I had the prom I was my
Speaker 3: shit was more wavy than the ships in the Navy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because as a player, as a player, you have to
Speaker 3: outmatch a bitch. You gotta you gotta look better than
Speaker 3: a bitch. That's the came That's part of being a player.
Speaker 3: You gotta have your nails done better, you gotta dress better,
Speaker 3: your hair gotta grow longer. You have to outmatch them.
Speaker 3: Like you know, you in that weave. You know that
Speaker 3: ain't your nails. So you're gonna bow down to this company.
Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying. So that's where I was.
Speaker 3: It's totally lost because they have to understand it. They
Speaker 3: understand it. You know that that I'm flying you. Let's
Speaker 3: get that straight off the top. So I was in
Speaker 3: my place getting my hair done. I just get my
Speaker 3: hair done twice a week, and I said, I got
Speaker 3: a chance to be in a movie. And the girl
Speaker 3: Pearl who did my hair, was like, and you ain't
Speaker 3: gonna take it because I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: Play the police. I was questioning.
Speaker 3: She said, nigga, all you niggas is running around here
Speaker 3: doing all this crime shit and you talking about no opportunities,
Speaker 3: and this is the opportunity. If you do not take it,
Speaker 3: you a real life sucker. And this is a woman
Speaker 3: called me a sucker. Keep real live sucker. You you
Speaker 3: this is your chance.
Speaker 1: Do it.
Speaker 3: You're gonna keep it one hundred forever because I know
Speaker 3: how you cut. But don't let this fuck you up,
Speaker 3: you know. But then and then then that was first one.
Speaker 3: Then I talked to one of my real g's nelsy
Speaker 3: rest in peace. He's like, why are you worry about
Speaker 3: playing police?
Speaker 2: Niggas?
Speaker 3: Know you ain't no motherfucking police. While you worried about
Speaker 3: that shit. Nigga, you gotta get that paper. And then
Speaker 3: I would call my I talked to my other homies.
Speaker 3: I say, yo, man, they want me to be in
Speaker 3: a movie.
Speaker 1: Play police.
Speaker 3: They'd be like, word, should I be in a movie?
Speaker 3: Call people in jail? Yo, they want me to. I
Speaker 3: know you in the bowels of the devil.
Speaker 1: I know you stuck.
Speaker 3: You want me to. I want to pay the police.
Speaker 3: If I was home, could I be in a movie?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So everybody said, go do it, do it, do it.
Speaker 3: I didn't do Jack City, you know, And that was
Speaker 3: my first movie, and then the show Benness. If the
Speaker 3: movie you're in makes money, you'll be in another movie.
Speaker 1: And then you did New York Undercover.
Speaker 3: Right see New York Gonna covers another story where I
Speaker 3: was at my house in Hollywood Hills. At this time
Speaker 3: I was living. I was I was elevated out the hood.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in the hills. You ever see MTV
Speaker 3: cribs while.
Speaker 1: You open this up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the motherfucking house with your brains blown out? Who
Speaker 3: had a convertible house? DJ Callan ain't even still got
Speaker 3: a convertible house.
Speaker 1: Champagne, take us with champagne. Goddamn, they got a convertible house.
Speaker 1: They can stop. Let's get to the convertible house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is some good ship. I've tasted champagnes before.
Speaker 3: I know dom is nice. A good champagne. When it
Speaker 3: gets in your mouth, it evaporates, exactly if you're taking
Speaker 3: wax champagne. When you it tastes like you're drinking seven up.
Speaker 3: All right, anyway, convertible house. I'm at the convertible house,
Speaker 3: fab five. Freddy's at the crib. One of my o
Speaker 3: g shout out to Fried from Wild.
Speaker 2: He was there.
Speaker 3: He's a Day one hip hop. Certain people are Day one.
Speaker 3: So he's talking to me in my house. He's telling
Speaker 3: me we should I should turn my living room into
Speaker 3: a planetarium like shit, and so I could have stars
Speaker 3: up there, so we could show the hose of constellations.
Speaker 1: I can't make this ship up. Freddie gonna laugh, so
Speaker 1: Andre Herrel hits him up.
Speaker 3: Rest in peace. Andre Herrel is like you at I
Speaker 3: used to crib tell. I used to come Beyond be
Speaker 3: on New York Undercover. So I told Andre fucked that.
Speaker 3: I said, that's a rip off of New Jack City.
Speaker 3: Fuck you in case you having checked, I'm doing movies
Speaker 3: right now. Nigga, I don't do TV, so I'm on
Speaker 3: my bullshit right because I was doing a movie. I'm
Speaker 3: doing a movie with Keanu Reeves and Ship. I was like, nigga,
Speaker 3: I'm in the hills. I was a little bit was
Speaker 3: a little bit full of myself at that point, really
Speaker 3: coming to Andre because I knew Andre from Chuckling hwe day.
Speaker 3: Oh come on, Oh you too big now that's what
Speaker 3: black people did. Yeah, you too big? Now, you can't
Speaker 3: fuck with us. I said, all right, give me a
Speaker 3: bad guy roll and I'll do it. And I did
Speaker 3: Danny Up. Then I did one episode and Dick Wolf
Speaker 3: basically said, I don't want to kill Ice. Will he
Speaker 3: do two more episodes? It was a guy in the
Speaker 3: first episode, and that's when I came back. I shot
Speaker 3: Malik Yoba's girl cut fingers off. Then let me wile
Speaker 3: out two episodes and that was my first working with
Speaker 3: Dick Wolf. And after that I did Swift Justice, one
Speaker 3: of his shows. Then I did Law and Order Exiled,
Speaker 3: then I did I had my own show Players, which
Speaker 3: is on for a season, and then I got called
Speaker 3: to do SVU, which was only supposed to be a
Speaker 3: four episode arc, and I went on there for four episodes.
Speaker 1: I've been on there twenty.
Speaker 2: So I started from New York Undercover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dick Wolf is the producer of all those shows.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 3: Dick Wolf has nine shows in primetime right now. Nine shows.
Speaker 3: He has Law and Order SVU, Organized Crime. He has FBI,
Speaker 3: FBI Most Wanted, FBI International, Chicago, PD Chicago, MED Chicago.
Speaker 3: Nine shows in primetime. Yeah, he's not to be fuckless.
Speaker 3: And it's checks, and it's check's clear. Never never been
Speaker 3: laid on a payment nothing. That man is the man
Speaker 3: is the real deal.
Speaker 5: Everybody else is in Hollywood has complaining about the strike.
Speaker 2: How come the writers strike?
Speaker 1: The writer strike? How come Law and Order is in
Speaker 1: I'm complaining. I'm not. I'm not complaining about it. But
Speaker 1: it's fucking with my paper because you're not filming as
Speaker 1: long as the strike is happening.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm down here. I'm on hiatus. We broke.
Speaker 3: We broke in May. We're supposed to go back right
Speaker 3: after July, and we probably won't, so we'll we'll actually
Speaker 3: maybe go in say August. But with Law and Order,
Speaker 3: we shoot, you shoot three episodes a month, so right,
Speaker 3: it takes eight days to shoot an episode, eight days
Speaker 3: at a weekend, ten days, so thirty days. So you're
Speaker 3: doing three episodes a month as a series regularly.
Speaker 5: Days you're feeling out the month days eight for each
Speaker 5: episode each Oh my god.
Speaker 3: But you're only in the scenes you're in. So say
Speaker 3: out of the eight days, there's forty five scenes. I
Speaker 3: could be in ten scenes. I could be in twenty scenes.
Speaker 3: I could be in one scene. But you get paid
Speaker 3: at an episodic rate. So if I say huh, I
Speaker 3: get the same check as if I act. Though it's
Speaker 3: like being in the NBA. If I sit on the bench,
Speaker 3: I get paid.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So when they tell you, Nori, we want you in
Speaker 3: for twenty two episodes, and your episodic rate is whatever,
Speaker 3: I don't know what. If it abys one hundred thousand,
Speaker 3: then you times that time twenty three and that's what
Speaker 3: you make that year. If you're making five hundred thousand
Speaker 3: an episode, you multiply it, so you know, it becomes lucrative.
Speaker 1: It becomes lucrative.
Speaker 3: But when they have acted strike, they start taking away episodes.
Speaker 1: That's money, right, But I.
Speaker 3: Gotta stand with the I stand with the writers because you.
Speaker 1: Know what it's all about complaining about it's streaming.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, in the whole AI stuff too.
Speaker 1: The hip should be doing that. Then, well hip hop.
Speaker 3: I don't understand hip hop's streaming. But you know right now,
Speaker 3: like you see me on NBC, so you get residuals.
Speaker 3: But then they got you on Peacock and they don't
Speaker 3: really they ain't even talking about how that money is
Speaker 3: what's happening. So the writers just like hold up everything
Speaker 3: because they'll just keep going. They'll just keep going and
Speaker 3: taking the money until you So they had to stop
Speaker 3: the boat for a minute, like we need to dress
Speaker 3: this hip hop's streaming. I don't understand it. I really
Speaker 3: don't music. I used to sell records. You went in
Speaker 3: the store, you bought the motherfucking record. They had a
Speaker 3: sound scan. Now Snoop is like, now you do a
Speaker 3: billion streams, they give you a check for forty five dollars.
Speaker 2: Right, who came up with that?
Speaker 3: What that math? What's the algorithm? And how do you even.
Speaker 1: Know if it's a real algorithm?
Speaker 3: You just trusting I don't And then you get golden
Speaker 3: platinum records, But no one bought the records.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see it all the time. Why have you
Speaker 2: never even heard of holding up they golden platinum.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of my records. I'm proud.
Speaker 3: I actually you know, people bought the record. You think
Speaker 3: think of Think lord, you saw a million records. Think
Speaker 3: of it like this, a stadium fill to the top.
Speaker 3: It's like one hundred thousand people fill that stadium ten times.
Speaker 3: That's how many people walk into a store and bought
Speaker 3: your record, not push the button, walked in and purchased it.
Speaker 3: That's big them days. Is big this push Now you
Speaker 3: can buy one song out.
Speaker 1: Of an album. Well, I had singles before.
Speaker 3: Now, but I would put out singles that weren't out.
Speaker 3: You would buy the singles. I would send them to
Speaker 3: the DJs, and I would to make you buy the album.
Speaker 3: The game has changed. All games have changed tremendously. That's
Speaker 3: why I changed games m.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: One thing we was talking about was a lot of
Speaker 5: people don't realize you wasn't even in colors.
Speaker 1: No, no, who didn't realize that.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people who would swear, I mean
Speaker 5: I loved you in colors.
Speaker 1: I'm like Nigga, I was not in.
Speaker 2: I mean he was technically with the music, and the
Speaker 2: song was so big.
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear his color Story Colored Story
Speaker 3: is like this. I was already signed to Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3: I was early signed to Warner Brothers. It was a
Speaker 3: Warner Brothers movie, so they wanted to use a song.
Speaker 3: I wrote, Oh, this is dope, the Thunder. I had
Speaker 3: the Thunder brought in for my for my enerview to
Speaker 3: keep it gone. So oh so Warner Brothers had the movie.
Speaker 3: So what they wanted to use Squeeze the Trigger for
Speaker 3: the movie because it was like a hardcore record at
Speaker 3: the time to be in the Gang bangor movie. So
Speaker 3: I knew that if someone wants to use your record
Speaker 3: in a movie. I told Nori this yesterday, you can
Speaker 3: ask to see the movie. If you're an artist out
Speaker 3: there and they say they want to put your movie
Speaker 3: in your song in any movie, you can, as a
Speaker 3: publisher say I need to see the movie. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I want my record involved in this particular
Speaker 3: movie or where they're gonna place it in the movie.
Speaker 3: You know, they might want to place it in some bullshit.
Speaker 3: You're like, Nah, that ain't cool.
Speaker 1: Fuck that.
Speaker 3: I wanted the money. I wasn't gonna turn it down,
Speaker 3: but I played the card I need to see the movie, right,
Speaker 3: So we went to see Colors private screening, private screening.
Speaker 3: It was fake to me because the Mexicans don't fight
Speaker 3: the blacks in La. If that ever happened, it would
Speaker 3: be the apocalypse. Second thing, that that scene where they
Speaker 3: played Colors, where the Crips and the Bloods meeting up
Speaker 3: in the county. It can't happen. But by the time
Speaker 3: you get to that point, you in the jumpsuits and
Speaker 3: the Bloods and Crips never come connected because the cryps
Speaker 3: is like in thirty eight hundred, they're different modules they
Speaker 3: put them in.
Speaker 1: So that was fake. You know.
Speaker 3: They had on the Colors. They spang it under that
Speaker 3: that was my movie shit. So I got past that.
Speaker 3: I said, well who did this? Who did the title song?
Speaker 3: And they say Rick James.
Speaker 1: Because they still own the soundtrack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hunt down the Colors soundtrack. Go to the last
Speaker 3: song on the B side, and it's a song by
Speaker 3: Rick James called Everywhere I Go Colors.
Speaker 1: Look at all these colors, you.
Speaker 3: Know, Rick James, Come on, man, I was like, Rick James,
Speaker 3: you the nigga, But this is not your area, so
Speaker 3: that expertise. So now I'm riding home with Africa Islam.
Speaker 3: We saw it and I said, man, we're gonna make
Speaker 3: a title song. We literally went right from the screen
Speaker 3: into the studio. Now, at the time I was listening,
Speaker 3: I was vibing off of King's Son. King's Son has
Speaker 3: a song called Mythological and Mythological Goal. It opens says
Speaker 3: when I get ill, it's a reason because it's Duk
Speaker 3: season Hunter of the Front. Here I come, I am
Speaker 3: a nightmare walk talking. King was just again I'm rocking
Speaker 3: that Cadence a King Son ship. And then we just
Speaker 3: put the record together and so I turn it in
Speaker 3: and they flipped, oh, this is incredible. It's incredible, and
Speaker 3: uh I got an MTV Award for it.
Speaker 1: Dotty.
Speaker 3: That record is not on any iced tea albums and
Speaker 3: it went platinum, triple platinum and bullshit.
Speaker 1: But it's one of the.
Speaker 3: Most of my big hits were soundtracks. When I did
Speaker 3: New Jack City, Yeah, that's an incredible record. When I
Speaker 3: did New Jack City, I wanted to do the song
Speaker 3: for that, but I'm like, I.
Speaker 1: Call it, So I was like.
Speaker 3: I can't really do Scottie's song. Because he's police. So
Speaker 3: I do Nino's sing. So George Jackson rest in Peace
Speaker 3: was a producer. I come on, I see you know,
Speaker 3: you know we'll get somebody out.
Speaker 1: He wants you to r respective of the cop. He
Speaker 1: just didn't know what I could do.
Speaker 3: Okay, He thought he had to go out and get
Speaker 3: somebody else to do some gags and shit like I
Speaker 3: more Nino, And so I did put that ship in
Speaker 3: the hustler word. I pulled the trigger along, griped my teeth,
Speaker 3: sprayed every niggas gone, got the block soon, arm of
Speaker 3: dope spots, last thing I sweat to sucker punk cop.
Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, this ship is hard. So we
Speaker 3: put the hustler bow. That was number one on that album.
Speaker 3: That album went super platinum. So yeah, I got a
Speaker 3: lot of I got a lot of record sales away
Speaker 3: from my actual albums.
Speaker 1: Sip to that.
Speaker 5: Come on, yeah, well let's let's let's stay off through
Speaker 5: jack City for a second.
Speaker 1: Do you know how I think that movie was and
Speaker 1: when you're making it?
Speaker 5: Was making it? Did two ball question? Did you know
Speaker 5: he was making a class now?
Speaker 3: It was a low budget film and Mario van Peoples, right,
Speaker 3: Mario van peoples directing it, and everybody in it was
Speaker 3: new Jacks. Wesley had only done Major League. Wesley had
Speaker 3: only done Major League, and I think a spike lea joint.
Speaker 3: Chris Rock was the hottest streak comedian. I mean he
Speaker 3: wasn't big Chris Rock. Yeah, I was time I ever
Speaker 3: seen Chris Rock. I was just a rapper, you know,
Speaker 3: and I believed he.
Speaker 1: Was a crackhead. I mean I was good acting. I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know like I thought that's what
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 3: Right, So they figured, well, I see it, so minions
Speaker 3: of records, maybe that'll translate. Plus they wanted somebody a
Speaker 3: little gangster and somebody a little political, right. But they
Speaker 3: were more concerned with me being able to go undercovering
Speaker 3: full Nino Brown than actually playing the police.
Speaker 1: See, you could take teach.
Speaker 3: A player how to play a square, but you can't
Speaker 3: teach a square to play a player. They can't pull
Speaker 3: it off. So it was more important when I got
Speaker 3: around Nino that Nino could believe I was actually live
Speaker 3: with him. That part where I'm in the pool, I go,
Speaker 3: I got your back. You didin't what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: I was dirty like that. I got him. But everybody
Speaker 3: during that movie, NOI we were huddling, like we were
Speaker 3: doing the scene and everybody would huddle and like what
Speaker 3: do you think you know? Because everything and the movie
Speaker 3: was five million dollars at the end, they got a
Speaker 3: completion bond for two more million. It cost seven million
Speaker 3: dollars to make New Jack City seven million. They shoot
Speaker 3: videos like, yeah it was Law and Order episode costs
Speaker 3: eight million dollars, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was a It was a very uh interesting procedure.
Speaker 3: Working with Wes. Wesley was dope. Here's a funny story.
Speaker 3: So we go into the reading. We're going to read, right,
Speaker 3: So me and Chris Rock are new So we walk
Speaker 3: in and Wesley Snip's come in and the motherfucker got
Speaker 3: a leather his his his script is in a leather
Speaker 3: bound folder, opens it up, notes on every page. Me
Speaker 3: and Chris Ross, Chris folded up in our back pocket.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh shit, is a real actor, Like oh shit,
Speaker 3: we were nervous as a motherfucker. But Wes west woods
Speaker 3: with us, and you don't know you're making a classic
Speaker 3: movie at the time, you know, you don't know that.
Speaker 1: But Mario did his thing right. Could there be in
Speaker 1: New Jack City too.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, because it was an era
Speaker 3: movie about an era. Yeah, but what have Nino? Oh no, no,
Speaker 3: they been back then. There was supposed to be a
Speaker 3: Nina too.
Speaker 5: Like Nino brown Son or maybe or maybe before he
Speaker 5: became Nino brown Some ship you should.
Speaker 2: Have updated, Yeah, just just something.
Speaker 3: Try to do Superfly? How are you gonna do some
Speaker 3: fly without a nigga with a perm? You know you
Speaker 3: can't run on Steve, you know that's it, yo, man,
Speaker 3: I got to kill I got to get out the
Speaker 3: game for you know, I got to ice a motherfucker
Speaker 3: and one of these motherfuckers ice me. I live off
Speaker 3: of that line, right, But New Jack City what we weren't.
Speaker 3: We had the potential to do part two, But I
Speaker 3: got in trouble with Top Killer and Wesley, and Wesley
Speaker 3: went and did uh demolition Man and they paid him
Speaker 3: like seven million.
Speaker 1: That's when he got the Burger Blonde here. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: then he got he got the bag.
Speaker 3: So once he got the bag, he can't come back
Speaker 3: and play with us in the street no more.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: He he elevated and then I got in trouble and
Speaker 3: uh yeah, but the New Jack City part to Wesley
Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to die based on a lot of people.
Speaker 3: The guy out of Frisco who had a dope or
Speaker 3: a dope uh well internal situation. He had a building
Speaker 3: where you would buy the drugs and do the drugs
Speaker 3: in the same place. I wish I could remember the
Speaker 3: guy's name, but it was famous hustling. So that's kind
Speaker 3: of based on that. But no, no San Francisco.
Speaker 5: Nose out of the years, no bars neither.
Speaker 3: It's a Frisco hustler. But you know, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3: It's probably I mean, I can't it probably had a
Speaker 3: little bit of everything that they were implementing other you know,
Speaker 3: Nino was a mixture of all drug dealers put together.
Speaker 3: So I cannot say that, but I know that the
Speaker 3: actual Carter was based on something that was happening up
Speaker 3: in Frisco.
Speaker 1: People showing from But people used.
Speaker 2: To say, like, you're pushing this, you're pushing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the thing of this.
Speaker 3: People have all kinds of ideas about what happened. But
Speaker 3: being on the ground in the movie, if you probably
Speaker 3: do research right now and find out go and check
Speaker 3: the internet, has it all Felix Mitchell.
Speaker 1: See just google instatly Felix Mitchell. And if you rech
Speaker 1: if you check.
Speaker 3: His his his hustle, you'll see he had he had
Speaker 3: that type of thing going and they build off of that.
Speaker 3: They build off of that, take a little drug dealership
Speaker 3: from this guy.
Speaker 2: From that, it's all influence. They did the same with Scarface.
Speaker 2: There was a bunch of people that they created to
Speaker 2: make Scarface.
Speaker 3: Can they use it as influence? So based on them, So.
Speaker 5: New Jack City at the time, you're against the rapper,
Speaker 5: making against the music.
Speaker 1: How do you study for that role?
Speaker 5: How do you do It's because it's the exact opposite
Speaker 5: of what you represent and who you are, So how
Speaker 5: do you you do that?
Speaker 3: I was scared, Norrie, I was scared. I thought, like
Speaker 3: I said, I thought it was career suicide. But then
Speaker 3: I got all my people saying, man, this is a chance.
Speaker 1: Right, there's no studying. You just act. Acting is make
Speaker 1: believe it's acts.
Speaker 3: Anybody in here, we all have had enough experience with
Speaker 3: the cops. You can act like a cop. When I'm
Speaker 3: on New York, when I'm on Law and Order, right
Speaker 3: before I do the scene, I just go asshole asshole, asshole,
Speaker 3: and then I talk down to you. But dig this,
Speaker 3: playing a cop and playing a gangster is the exact
Speaker 3: same acting, exact same acting. Playing a cop and playing
Speaker 3: a gangster is the exact same actor. We both got
Speaker 3: a gun, we both got an attitude, we both want answers,
Speaker 3: so there will be a consequence, and we talked to
Speaker 3: you in that manner.
Speaker 1: See, so the police.
Speaker 3: Talk to you, they talk down to you like, motherfucker,
Speaker 3: you're finna answer my motherfucking question. I am the law.
Speaker 3: The gangsters like fuck you. But it's the same exact energy.
Speaker 1: It's the same.
Speaker 3: So like when you see me on Law and Order
Speaker 3: and I'm interrogating somebody, I don't necessarily have to think
Speaker 3: about being a cop. I'm just like this motherfucker has
Speaker 3: an answer I need to get, and I'm leaning across.
Speaker 1: To him, just like Ice.
Speaker 3: She wouldn't you know, I'm this nigga was happening him
Speaker 3: and then But now I'm even worse than a gangster
Speaker 3: because I got the law, you know, so I could
Speaker 3: do whatever the fuck I want to you.
Speaker 1: So it's the same acting.
Speaker 3: I remember when I was live, when cats, when cats
Speaker 3: had too much ego, We knew they were the cops,
Speaker 3: like if we was with somebody, and like Homie don't care.
Speaker 3: He seems a little bit too much, like he ain't worried.
Speaker 3: He's not. He got his hammer on him, He's always
Speaker 3: talking shit. He's the police because you know, he had
Speaker 3: no fear and they usually were. And you brought that
Speaker 3: into the room, that it's me, you know, it's me,
Speaker 3: it's it's I think. I think the key of the
Speaker 3: key of acting is casting, you know, so you want
Speaker 3: to cast a tough guy. You pretty much want to
Speaker 3: find somebody at some point is tough and can put
Speaker 3: that in there on that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what I bring to the role.
Speaker 3: But whatever it is, people dig it, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I don't know, Man, I don't know
Speaker 3: what the fuck it is. When you're acting, you're just
Speaker 3: doing it. And see the thing of this, you can't
Speaker 3: you can't say you're a great actor. The audience has
Speaker 3: to say. They got to believe it. So whatever I'm
Speaker 3: doing is working.
Speaker 1: Let's say that. Let's say that, Let's say that you.
Speaker 5: Got great, great actors. You got to work with Denzel Washington.
Speaker 5: How the funck was that?
Speaker 1: Denzel was so dope.
Speaker 3: First thing Denzel did was he came to my trailer
Speaker 3: and he zeroed out like he he came really cool,
Speaker 3: like he was talking to me as a friend and
Speaker 3: stuff and he's telling me stories. Because I guess later
Speaker 3: on I figured it out, like you can't just hit
Speaker 3: the stage and work with Denzel Washington if he's like this,
Speaker 3: If me and you got to play best friends, we
Speaker 3: gotta or I'm always gonna be like.
Speaker 1: I'm on the stage. I'm gonna acting with Denzel, you
Speaker 1: know you start.
Speaker 3: So he kind of chilled with me and talked to me,
Speaker 3: told me about his life to being on television, some
Speaker 3: personal things because I had to play his friend. And
Speaker 3: I never forget the first time I sat with him, Norri,
Speaker 3: I sat and we did a scene and he's telling
Speaker 3: jokes and shit.
Speaker 1: They said action.
Speaker 3: Denzel jumped in character all right and he said his
Speaker 3: shit and I flubbed my lines. He was like, come on, Ice, like,
Speaker 3: let's go. I'm like, oh, I see what you doing.
Speaker 3: You dribbling between your legs. You're showing me that you
Speaker 3: can go from this to that quick. And at that point,
Speaker 3: I said, I want to learn how to act.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 3: See, the thing of it is with acting anything, nobody
Speaker 3: is anything. You're not born anything. You become a basketball player.
Speaker 3: You start off as a fan. We aren't rappers. We
Speaker 3: taught ourselves how to rap. You're not anything, so any
Speaker 3: You could do anything if you're willing to take the time.
Speaker 1: To learn how to do it, but you gotta want
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: If I want you to act and you never really
Speaker 3: wanted to act, you're not gonna get it. But if
Speaker 3: you wanted to and you're willing to apply yourself, you
Speaker 3: could do it. You know, nobody's a concert pianist. You've practiced,
Speaker 3: so once you get that understanding, you can pretty much
Speaker 3: be what you want to be because nobody is anything
Speaker 3: at birth.
Speaker 1: We all started off fans.
Speaker 3: I started off listening to Melly melling them, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: I do of how they rhyme those words together.
Speaker 1: And I try to practice. You start off you whack.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start somewhere and then you get.
Speaker 1: Better, you get better. I want to play play you.
Speaker 1: You got the clip? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh ship, yeah, but you got some fat baby, mamabaut I,
Speaker 3: what kind of side track is play the clip?
Speaker 1: Clip?
Speaker 2: I thought we was homies.
Speaker 1: From what you said, squeeze, yeah respectfully. Yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was respectively.
Speaker 2: It was a Halloween far true.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy story. I lovely walked into my god.
Speaker 1: I walked up to him and I said, it's like
Speaker 1: she had on like Kim right.
Speaker 6: So I walked into him. I was like, bro, all
Speaker 6: the expect I wanted last really long, you know what,
Speaker 6: call over and.
Speaker 1: He brushed his up in her ear and she looked
Speaker 1: at him.
Speaker 6: Smile and it looked at me his smile and turned
Speaker 6: around and been the thing over when I grabbed as
Speaker 6: much about.
Speaker 1: Free sure you.
Speaker 3: Want it went the backstory? Yeah it was Halloween. Did
Speaker 3: he say that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said that. I think Halloween party. Said it
Speaker 1: was a Halloween party. And I've been knowing Neo.
Speaker 3: I like Neo, you know, I've seen him when he
Speaker 3: first started, and I've always been a fan. And also
Speaker 3: I was inspired by a young kid making this move.
Speaker 3: So Neo me had a cool relationship. So we had
Speaker 3: the party and stuff, and it's uh Halloween, So all
Speaker 3: the girls.
Speaker 1: Are extra hoish, right, extra hoish.
Speaker 3: So Coco had on some some some like booty shorts
Speaker 3: with the fish thats and ship and so he's in
Speaker 3: the booth with us.
Speaker 1: He didn't just walk up.
Speaker 3: He was hanging and stuff and Toko and then Rihanna
Speaker 3: was there too.
Speaker 1: Coco them was dancing.
Speaker 3: Coco Them's dancing, and I know that Nigga was just
Speaker 3: like gazing like yo.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of ass in the air,
Speaker 1: like it was. It was happening.
Speaker 2: So then he was like.
Speaker 1: He did to play a ship.
Speaker 3: He said, ice man, I always wanted to touch Coco's
Speaker 3: see you change the word he said.
Speaker 1: He didn't say grab her ass. That's someone touched Coco's booty.
Speaker 1: Could I do that?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: I was like, that was kind of.
Speaker 3: Player that he asked, you know, that kind of player
Speaker 3: that he had. He didn't ask the fingerbanger. He didn't
Speaker 3: have the fucker. He didn't have to sucker titty. He
Speaker 3: had to touch her butt, right. So I'm like, you
Speaker 3: know what, player, I could.
Speaker 2: Make that happen.
Speaker 3: I could make that happen. So I said, Coco, Nea
Speaker 3: want to touch a booty, let me touch your booty.
Speaker 3: She's like, okay, you know she's following instructures, you know,
Speaker 3: I say wow, So she bends over. Great, he touches
Speaker 3: the butt like that I'm like, it's like make a
Speaker 3: wish kid, you know now, Now, the fact the fact
Speaker 3: that Neo felt it was appropriate to bring this up
Speaker 3: in a Drink Chance interview, that was something maybe he
Speaker 3: should have kept to himself, you know. But I'm not
Speaker 3: mad at him because that means me. No, that was
Speaker 3: a moment in his life. You know, that was the moment,
Speaker 3: the moment in his life. It was a great moment,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Now, Then everybody watching, don't
Speaker 3: see me out with coke and ask for butt. Get
Speaker 3: to Neo's level first, you know, celebrity button.
Speaker 2: No, it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was some players and we was in a player
Speaker 3: mold that night.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody. It was flying sometimes it's fly like that.
Speaker 1: So what did you dress up? Ass? I don't know
Speaker 1: what I was. I think we was on some S
Speaker 1: and M ship that okay.
Speaker 3: I had on some leather ill vests, probably a ball
Speaker 3: gag on some old tech it and ship.
Speaker 1: We love We love Halloween.
Speaker 3: Women love Halloween because it's a night they can be
Speaker 3: freely hoish, you know everything, or you want to be
Speaker 3: a school teacher, sexy school teacher.
Speaker 2: You know whatever it is.
Speaker 3: Doctor, Yeah, that's a chance, and nobody can say nothing
Speaker 3: about it. That's say night. They just get it. They
Speaker 3: let it out. It's okay, and players dig it. Guys
Speaker 3: are like, that's cool. You know, I never had a
Speaker 3: problem with my girl being sexy. I'm like, you don't
Speaker 3: drive a Ferrari with the cover on it.
Speaker 1: You didn't, but some people do.
Speaker 3: That's cool, you know what I'm saying, Hey, wrap them up,
Speaker 3: that's your thing.
Speaker 5: But but you know, like like is there does your
Speaker 5: wife have stalkers or has he ever had a stalker?
Speaker 1: Now, my daughter had a stalker?
Speaker 2: Your daughter?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my daughter, not my little daughter, my older daughter.
Speaker 1: How did that go?
Speaker 3: Well, let's go back to Coca. We had a couples
Speaker 3: one situation we had.
Speaker 1: We had a.
Speaker 3: We were we had an apartment and we move and so
Speaker 3: we go to the apartment and it's a car following us,
Speaker 3: and so we stop at Target and stuff. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: still shop at Target. We keep we at Target. T
Speaker 3: motherfuckers think that some point humans leave the planet, Like
Speaker 3: we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't eat a taco bell or we don't.
Speaker 2: Like, motherfucker, he goes to Target, Like, what your fuck?
Speaker 3: If you need Target ship, where do you go and
Speaker 3: you need Target type ship.
Speaker 1: They don't what time. Somebody said, Yo, you eat it, Denny's,
Speaker 1: you eat it. I hop them like, is there a
Speaker 1: Gucci egg? I said, some eggs someplace. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the fuck I'm going to do for breakfast.
Speaker 2: Egg is a fucking egg.
Speaker 3: So anyway, we are, we at Target and she says
Speaker 3: she sees the motherfuckers in the store, right, and so
Speaker 3: I'm like where when we come out? She says, and
Speaker 3: I escalade. So I'm like, all, ain't cool. So we
Speaker 3: go and she had to go to this nail spot, right.
Speaker 3: So we pull up and they pull out right. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, we're finsa do this now. At this time,
Speaker 3: I'm not armed, but they don't know that, right, So
Speaker 3: I walk over to him. I'm like, what's happening. They're like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: we just pop araxis. I'm like, yeah, nigga, fall back.
Speaker 3: I said, stop following me, following me, man, stop playing?
Speaker 2: No, no, we could.
Speaker 1: They thought I had the hammer. I was like this,
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: You got you run, you know?
Speaker 3: So they fell back. But that was this one situation.
Speaker 3: My daughter, she lives in Atlanta, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: my daughter's grown. So she calls me and she said, Daddy,
Speaker 3: this dude is following me and ship like that. So
Speaker 3: I said, okay, this is what you do. I know,
Speaker 3: you know niggas down there. Talk to some of your
Speaker 3: goons and tell them, say your father would like them
Speaker 3: to help you, right, because they all got.
Speaker 2: In love for me.
Speaker 1: They know who she is.
Speaker 3: So I said, get a couple of them, tell them
Speaker 3: to come to the house and just lay in the cut, right,
Speaker 3: So they want to do a favor for ic because
Speaker 3: that could pay back off.
Speaker 1: So did she get a couple of dudes.
Speaker 3: And sure enough, the dude pull up in the parking
Speaker 3: lot and she told them and they walked over to him.
Speaker 3: Just let him understand this is not a good career decision.
Speaker 3: Fall back. She got cousins, brothers and people that love
Speaker 3: her and we don't love you, so pull out. And
Speaker 3: that was the last she saw the dude. But she
Speaker 3: didn't really know how to activate homies. I said, activate them,
Speaker 3: so I told her, I said, when I go there
Speaker 3: atlant I want to meet those guys.
Speaker 1: So that's it.
Speaker 3: But no, no stalkers, you know, I mean, anybody could
Speaker 3: have a stalker, you know, we don't have any problems,
Speaker 3: like I get I think just knowing who I am
Speaker 3: and people like that, they kind of keep date this
Speaker 3: and and shit, she.
Speaker 1: Don't got only fans or nothing like that to do.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, she start only fans, but see Coco does
Speaker 3: Playboy level. See only fans. Hustle is DP. You could
Speaker 3: do anything on you. You can show your fee, you
Speaker 3: can cook dinner on the motherfuckers. So she had girlfriend
Speaker 3: that had one, So Coco's like, yo, what do you
Speaker 3: do on it?
Speaker 1: Coco?
Speaker 3: Coco's always done playboy level shit, swimsuit shit, that's her.
Speaker 3: You know, if you want to be on only fans,
Speaker 3: stick a refrigerator in your pussy, you could do that too.
Speaker 1: Jesus, you know what, you can do anything.
Speaker 3: But what you do, you can you put a page up,
Speaker 3: say this is not a poor in site.
Speaker 1: Blow blow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And she made quite a bit of money. She
Speaker 3: makes quite a bit of money on that motherfucker. I
Speaker 3: understand why chicks don't want to work once they go on.
Speaker 3: They just like, why would I work when I could
Speaker 3: make sixty thousand whatever at least a lot.
Speaker 1: Because the subscriptions.
Speaker 3: But the thing of it is, it's like the chick
Speaker 3: has to set their limits. Like Zelia's on there, but
Speaker 3: she just just swim suit ship but she made like
Speaker 3: six her so you know you could be on that.
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's honestly, it makes more sense than Instagram.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, getting paid, You get paid,
Speaker 3: you got you have subscribers, and then you have paid
Speaker 3: and then you also put up stuff and you make
Speaker 3: them pay. But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Maybe this will help her get some more money. People say, well,
Speaker 3: you don't need the money. I say, when do will
Speaker 3: you not need? When do you not need the money?
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's it's a hustle man. Me and
Speaker 3: my wife are hustlers, right these flowers?
Speaker 5: Man, You listen to Ice our shows about giving people
Speaker 5: they flowers while they hear you know, so many people.
Speaker 1: Say that after ten years you washed up. We do
Speaker 1: not say that. We say that season we want to get.
Speaker 2: You drink alumna.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean, I mean, at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, I think one thing about Ice Tea, and
Speaker 3: I think what people will figure out about me is
Speaker 3: that Ice is gonna.
Speaker 1: Do what the fuck he wants to do.
Speaker 3: You know, And I understood me put it up here
Speaker 3: where they can a camera can see.
Speaker 1: I want the camera to see. This is a real
Speaker 1: player ass shit.
Speaker 5: Yes, Stup said it's better than the GRAMM because it
Speaker 5: comes for his people.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, real talk. Goddamn it makes
Speaker 1: it look weed.
Speaker 2: This is good. But no man, you know brown weed too.
Speaker 2: By the way, we can't One thing we can't forget
Speaker 2: is that Yeat that you help pioneer the space that
Speaker 2: we're in now as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had a podcast, my first podcast, to call the
Speaker 3: Final Level Podcasts, and me and Mickey did it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Mickey Benzon. I did fifty five episodes. They're available on someplace,
Speaker 3: some platform. But it wasn't my time. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: So I started doing it at my house. Right, so
Speaker 3: I do one person, but then if you're at my house,
Speaker 3: you stay all day, so it would take off of
Speaker 3: the day and I would do it on Saturday. So
Speaker 3: that burnt me out. Then I tried to do two
Speaker 3: a month, same thing, bust. It came over. Ray Kwan
Speaker 3: came over all that. Then I was like, I can't
Speaker 3: do it in my house no more because it was
Speaker 3: just the homies come over. The crib and they just
Speaker 3: lounge out, they like after the podcast on TV turned
Speaker 3: on the game.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, this is crazy.
Speaker 3: So then I tried to do them on Monday nights
Speaker 3: after Law and Order, but we were in the same
Speaker 3: studio tax and Taxon when it was we're up there speaker. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was cool, but I'm a no disrespect, but
Speaker 3: I kind of interviewed everybody I wanted to talk to.
Speaker 3: After about fifty people, I'm like, I really don't really
Speaker 3: want to talk to people now. Now they want content,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well they're getting these people. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm not even interested in them, Like, I don't get
Speaker 3: a fuck. So I did all my homies. I didn't
Speaker 3: do no worry, but I did all the homies. And
Speaker 3: then at that time, you know, podcasts you make money
Speaker 3: based on how many views and you have ads.
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't really lucrative enough.
Speaker 3: I was giving all the money to Mick and I
Speaker 3: just said, man, I got to pull the plug on this.
Speaker 3: My I can't. It wasn't it needs to be a
Speaker 3: full time gig. So you know, but I understand I
Speaker 3: know what this is. It's cool and it's fun, but
Speaker 3: I mean, fortunately, you guys have created a space where
Speaker 3: someone can come and talk comfortably and it's not with
Speaker 3: the bullshit.
Speaker 1: What made you even start a podcast? Like because you know.
Speaker 2: You were doing on internet you were doing on internet radio.
Speaker 1: First, let me just tell you how we said.
Speaker 5: They said we say that wan app was the first
Speaker 5: hip hop podcast, but I see was the first artist
Speaker 5: based podcast.
Speaker 1: So you like the cool work of this shit because
Speaker 1: in case you don't know, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people don't know, but they say those who
Speaker 3: say don't knowing, those who know don't say, so I
Speaker 3: I I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Tell you this, Noori, and this is the.
Speaker 3: I really didn't even like asking people questions, you get
Speaker 3: I found out at the end of it. I much
Speaker 3: preferred for you to ask me questions. Then to me,
Speaker 3: I just felt like I just didn't like it. After
Speaker 3: a while, you know, it's not my thing. You gotta
Speaker 3: find your thing. You gotta find your thing, and just
Speaker 3: prying in the motherfucker's lives was not my thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm cool. Plus, you're making too
Speaker 1: much law and order money that was.
Speaker 3: Making well that that too. That That's when I'm saying
Speaker 3: it wasn't lucrative enough, like you're saying, I'm making a
Speaker 3: lot of money over the week. Then I come up
Speaker 3: here and I do this and it was time and
Speaker 3: then I have a baby daughter. This wasn't paying off.
Speaker 3: So I just like, now, I mean, now, if I
Speaker 3: was doing it, you guys are take it to another level.
Speaker 3: But at the time, it wasn't making that much money.
Speaker 2: So we thank you anyways, because you did.
Speaker 1: Rosenberg m Crawg so you could walk, so me and
Speaker 1: I Vin could fly. I was happy.
Speaker 3: I was happy when I when I saw you doing it,
Speaker 3: because I'm like, this is a good thing. Always felt
Speaker 3: that our culture should be reported on by our own culture.
Speaker 3: You know, I think one of the key parts of
Speaker 3: the death of hip hop was the source magazine going left.
Speaker 3: And you know, at one moment, all of a sudden
Speaker 3: public enemy wasn't hip Hey, our rest wasn't you and Benzino.
Speaker 5: The first time we interviewed you, you and Bizino had
Speaker 5: just seen each other, right, Beef TV, let me tell
Speaker 5: you take a yeah, tell us about that because I
Speaker 5: mean our fans from back.
Speaker 1: Then though, but he's a new fan.
Speaker 3: Be have beef TV. Okay, this is what happened I'll
Speaker 3: tell the true story. What happened was when I got
Speaker 3: in trouble at Warner Brothers and cop Killer hit the
Speaker 3: fan and they got rid of shit. Benzino Rso got
Speaker 3: caught in that shit. They got caught in that tail
Speaker 3: spin of they dropping gangster rap. Now body counts metal,
Speaker 3: but it also affected death Row or whatever aftermath when
Speaker 3: they remember they were getting ready to do a deal
Speaker 3: and then it fell back through because they pulled out,
Speaker 3: Warner pulled out.
Speaker 1: Something happened. Just not see the Lower's Tucker time, right, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was after see the Lord's Tucker.
Speaker 3: But my shit created a like a wave that fucked
Speaker 3: with a lot of people. So Benzino being Benzino in
Speaker 3: them when in some fuck ice t shit like like
Speaker 3: I folded it. I folded to Warner Brothers. I don't
Speaker 3: even really know you, Benzino, I'm not even I don't
Speaker 3: I have nothing to do with you. I didn't tell
Speaker 3: them if I get rid of them, I'm I did
Speaker 3: my shit.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my shit. He went on. One.
Speaker 3: Of course, everybody hears anybody you got niggas.
Speaker 1: Yo, When who are these niggas? They talking crazy?
Speaker 3: So I'm like I don't know where they're from Boston,
Speaker 3: so I don't know who they are. But whatever, right,
Speaker 3: we la right, So Benzino comes to La, So I'm
Speaker 3: d right, I'm at one of they situations.
Speaker 1: I can leave the house is a source situation you're saying, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know it was.
Speaker 3: An event, norie. I can leave the house by myself.
Speaker 3: By the time I get to event, it's thirty niggas.
Speaker 1: Yo, we would all yo, we would.
Speaker 3: Right, because everybody wants to not only get in the event,
Speaker 3: they know if they with me, they coming in. So
Speaker 3: we deep, Yo, that's them niggas over there. Ice who
Speaker 3: ben Zeno what? Go holler at him? And he I
Speaker 3: walked over to him and he saw them people that
Speaker 3: nigga was like, yo, man, man, it's my bad. And
Speaker 3: we shook hands and that was it. But I think,
Speaker 3: what did he tell you?
Speaker 2: Same?
Speaker 1: Sorry? Oh, remember y'all was together the last time we
Speaker 1: recalled in New York.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was that was before the situation. There's
Speaker 3: a there was a situation where me and Benzino I
Speaker 3: had I kind of yeah, he's I've heard him say
Speaker 3: it on in an interview.
Speaker 1: He said I was seeing him kind of walked up
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 2: I think he did say it one time on here before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we would see. But it wasn't an altercation. It
Speaker 3: was just like I want me myself. I like to
Speaker 3: clarify shit. If you say something about it, I don't
Speaker 3: take it. I'm gonna walk up to you, f and
Speaker 3: well what am I hearing?
Speaker 1: Is this true? No? Okay?
Speaker 3: Cool that you know even if you said it, if
Speaker 3: you're not mad enough to repeat, I take that, I'll say,
Speaker 3: all right, cool. But if it is, let's figure it out.
Speaker 3: And I'm I'm always a bigger man. What did I
Speaker 3: do to you?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: What's the matter? What happened?
Speaker 3: You know, nobody wants conflict. My name's Ice. My name's
Speaker 3: not bullet.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: My name is Ice. I'm about smoothing things out. And
Speaker 3: I think my whole life has always been squashing beef.
Speaker 3: You know that's it. Anybody can start it. You know
Speaker 3: you got to have certain energy to stop it.
Speaker 2: Let's take it back though, Yes you want to.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to go back a little bit. Okay, Uncle
Speaker 2: Jam's army. Okay, talk about that is? What is that collective?
Speaker 2: How could I com compare it to New York.
Speaker 3: Uncle Jam's Army was the first promotional company in La
Speaker 3: that did parties for kids sixteen to twenty. So there
Speaker 3: was a big market of people that couldn't get into clubs,
Speaker 3: so they would throw events at different halls with DJs.
Speaker 3: They at some point were able to do the La
Speaker 3: Sports Arena by themselves.
Speaker 1: Egyptian Lover was the DJ.
Speaker 3: Bobcat who worked with l cool J, Battle Cat who's
Speaker 3: still out with Snoop. Arabian Prince was part of Egypt's crew.
Speaker 1: Pool.
Speaker 3: All them work with Uncle Jam's Army and.
Speaker 1: That's what they was known for.
Speaker 3: They were the biggest promoters and they would do the
Speaker 3: La Sports Arena, no ass, just music.
Speaker 1: First raves like black raves.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget one night we were there and they
Speaker 3: had an eight away drum machine and no one had
Speaker 3: ever seen a drum machine, and they put the drum
Speaker 3: machine on and they were like Uncle Jim's Army is
Speaker 3: about to go live live. And they put the beat
Speaker 3: on and they held the records in the air and
Speaker 3: the audience was like, what where's that music coming from?
Speaker 3: And they held the drum machine up and that eight
Speaker 3: to eight has a light that shoots by it the
Speaker 3: crowd went crazy, just screaming over a drum machine.
Speaker 1: It's like yo.
Speaker 3: And they used to let me wrap. I was the
Speaker 3: only person they would let rap. And you know I
Speaker 3: was still up and come and learning how to wrap.
Speaker 2: And this is early LA scene. This is what is
Speaker 2: a world class Wrecond crew happening around this time.
Speaker 3: And that's before Recond, before that Wow for a recon crew.
Speaker 1: Dre and Them was wrecking crew. I've seen Dre and
Speaker 1: them and dudos.
Speaker 3: See Dre and Them is from Compton, right, LA cats
Speaker 3: don't go to Compton.
Speaker 1: Compton.
Speaker 3: Compton would be like in New York, like it would
Speaker 3: be East New York. Compton is far. It's like twenty
Speaker 3: miles out of LA south central where we're from. So
Speaker 3: you know, you can own a horse in Compton, you
Speaker 3: can ride, you can have donkeys and pigs and shit.
Speaker 3: Compton is like the country. But the threat of Compton
Speaker 3: niggas is they come to LA and get down and
Speaker 3: then go back and you never see them again in
Speaker 3: your life. So that's Compton. People in comp and don't
Speaker 3: usually come past Manchester. That's a whole nother thing. And
Speaker 3: then when NWA came out here, like oh, you're from Compton,
Speaker 3: I said, I'm from South Central, south Central where the
Speaker 3: Riots popped up. That's where I'm from. So Dre and
Speaker 3: them was playing in Dudos and we went Watch is
Speaker 3: another area, Watches, the area that's mostly projects. So if
Speaker 3: you talk Watch, you talking about PJ. Watts and Peerial Courts,
Speaker 3: Nickoson Gardens and Grape Street, Jordan Downs, those four big
Speaker 3: projects over there. So that's that was the first Riot,
Speaker 3: the home of the Watch Riots back in the day.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I've seen Dre and them playing at Dudos
Speaker 3: and stuff back in the day, so I'm I'm always
Speaker 3: been cool with Dre. I've always been cube with cool
Speaker 3: with q nw un I. When I was out see
Speaker 3: I had, I had two albums out before n w
Speaker 3: A drop. He dropped on my third album, so we
Speaker 3: would go out and tour together.
Speaker 1: Me Easy, dc uh Wall friends, wren Wall friends. What
Speaker 1: type of person Easy he was, because obviously.
Speaker 3: Easy was crazy, but he was Easy was a cool
Speaker 3: ass dude.
Speaker 1: The trip was easy. Was he convinced people he was fifteen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of his records, he said something abouty being young,
Speaker 3: so people used to think he was young, but he
Speaker 3: wasn't young. And my favorite Easy East story was ice
Speaker 3: Cube would write the rhymes, write the rhymes that so
Speaker 3: CB was talking to mEq was like yo, I wrote that.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd say it.
Speaker 2: He's actually outing himself. Well he's saying it.
Speaker 3: But Easy didn't care because Easy wasn't really the rapper.
Speaker 1: He was the money behind.
Speaker 3: He was a genius that saw hip hop was going
Speaker 3: to come someplace. He had his little, you know, drug money.
Speaker 3: Easy wasn't moving kilos. He was just on street hustling,
Speaker 3: but he had enough to get him in the record
Speaker 3: store and he was the brains.
Speaker 2: He had foresight for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Easy was cool. We never had shared
Speaker 3: an angry word. Me Dre, all of us all solid,
Speaker 3: ice Cube solid, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh and wasn't Arabian principal, so he was in Uncle
Speaker 2: James and then he was down with At the beginnings
Speaker 2: of w n.
Speaker 3: W A was candy Man uh Arabia. Candy Man was
Speaker 3: a part of man was if you look the first album,
Speaker 3: they all standing there, n w A and the posse
Speaker 3: that one. Yeah, candy Man but not part of n
Speaker 3: w A. And just like but it was all part
Speaker 3: kJ fad all that stuff, and then they just started
Speaker 3: to morph and morph and morph into you know, the
Speaker 3: world's most dangerous grew. I knew when I heard straight
Speaker 3: out of Compton it was a rap at that that day.
Speaker 5: What's the line that Ice Cube said that that you
Speaker 5: think made it against.
Speaker 1: The rap straight out of Compton?
Speaker 3: Crazy motherfucker named ice Cub from the gang called Niggas
Speaker 3: with Attitude. So up to that point, they was calling
Speaker 3: what I was doing reality. I'm like, it's not reality
Speaker 3: because it's not everybody's reality.
Speaker 1: It's my reality. We didn't have a name for it.
Speaker 3: And then when he said gangsters, the press called a
Speaker 3: gangster wrap.
Speaker 2: The press called it because we said this on here
Speaker 2: and people are like, no, no, the artist, another press
Speaker 2: did it.
Speaker 3: Press called it gangster rap. Cuba said from the gang
Speaker 3: called Niggas with attitude. They said it's gangster rap. So
Speaker 3: me I fell back and said, oh, okay, if this
Speaker 3: is gangster rap, I'm the original gangs.
Speaker 1: That's where OG came from. So OG didn't come from
Speaker 1: the hood.
Speaker 2: No, it did, but it just fell in place.
Speaker 3: OG is a term for first generation set, the first
Speaker 3: generation of whatever set.
Speaker 1: So if we drank.
Speaker 3: Champs wedank track. If we drink Champs crips, y'all niggas
Speaker 3: the Ogs you the originals of the set. The new
Speaker 3: kids would be the baby gangsters, but the Ogs are
Speaker 3: the founders of the set.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Also, la term og means anything original, the original five
Speaker 3: oh one, Levi's the original, Chuck Taylor's the original Shelter.
Speaker 1: That's them og. The first is og. Can you fight
Speaker 1: your way up to be in the OG?
Speaker 3: Well you be, You be an OG once you put
Speaker 3: in enough time.
Speaker 2: But now it is.
Speaker 1: Now it's just referred to being the old school.
Speaker 3: Cat has done some things like I refer to everybody
Speaker 3: in here as a OGY. They not new gangsters, you know.
Speaker 3: But the term comes from La Gangs. So I took
Speaker 3: it and it flipped it, you know. But then if
Speaker 3: you look at that album cover, I also I got
Speaker 3: myself in shackles. But then I got myself in a
Speaker 3: tuss which is saying I'm the same nigga, Like even
Speaker 3: if you see me, you know, suited, don't get it
Speaker 3: fucked up, right, So that's what it was. So that's
Speaker 3: where the OG album came from, and that was Vincent
Speaker 3: was supposed to be a double album.
Speaker 1: Wow, the first double album.
Speaker 3: Yes, but it was a double album motivated by nw
Speaker 3: A MM because you dig, I'm out here, I do,
Speaker 3: I do, Uh Ryan pays, I do power. They dropped Boom.
Speaker 3: I'm like, nigga, I gotta get to work.
Speaker 1: It dropped you after night, No.
Speaker 3: No, no, I do the first one, I do the
Speaker 3: second one, and then here comes Godzilla straight out of
Speaker 3: Comps and show. I'm like, yo, n w A is
Speaker 3: really like live Yo, nigga, we got to go in
Speaker 3: the studio right, the homies is really getting it in.
Speaker 3: So I made a double album at that point, motivated
Speaker 3: by the power of them. They you know, like I
Speaker 3: said early hate, it wasn't hate, but it was like
Speaker 3: somebody else is in the room. Now, nigga, you got
Speaker 3: to go and earn your stripes. So I had to
Speaker 3: drop heavy.
Speaker 2: You dig you were gonna say that. You remember the
Speaker 2: first time you heard straight outa Compson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it felt like Godzilla was in the room.
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, because remember we was out on tour.
Speaker 1: They had dope man.
Speaker 2: Because Easy came out first, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Easy didn't shake me up? Easy does it?
Speaker 3: I was like okay and Easy, like you know, Easy
Speaker 3: the way easy wrap.
Speaker 1: He ain't cute right right?
Speaker 2: And or Rent is incredible ruthless villain.
Speaker 1: You know. Anytime I pulling a.
Speaker 3: K off the sholf, you know, I was like these niggas,
Speaker 3: like beast, I was like, yo, they turned it up.
Speaker 3: They turned it up, and I had to. But then
Speaker 3: my thing was as iced Tea, It's like, Okay, nw
Speaker 3: A is taking it that way, I gotta take it
Speaker 3: this way, like I gotta not. I can't go out
Speaker 3: and bang bang with him, So I just keep it
Speaker 3: player and.
Speaker 1: Hustle as much as I could, you know.
Speaker 2: So that was a conscious decision you made to say,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try to be in that same lane.
Speaker 3: I'm always trying to find my own lane. You're fool
Speaker 3: to go down the same lane somebody else is doing.
Speaker 3: You gotta find your originality, you gotta find what is?
Speaker 1: What are you? What you are? Right? You know? And me,
Speaker 1: I was a different breed. I was never in a gang.
Speaker 3: I'm not a gang banger, but I grew up amongst gangs.
Speaker 3: I'm not a I'm not a bully, but I'll defend myself.
Speaker 1: I'm an orphan. So you know, like I was telling.
Speaker 3: You, you know, we were the cats with the feeling felid
Speaker 3: shorts on, the socks, the sweaters, you know, tennis racket.
Speaker 3: But we had a UZI. You know, that's who we
Speaker 3: were with the pems, that's who we were, you know.
Speaker 2: So it was no sense.
Speaker 3: And you know, they pulled up on some real gang
Speaker 3: banger shit.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I didn't so cool, but it's
Speaker 1: all love. It was love. I was happy for NWA
Speaker 1: because I was happy to.
Speaker 3: Have help on the West. I by myself a long.
Speaker 5: Time, and at the time I remember, like, you know,
Speaker 5: people making fun of the s curl like that.
Speaker 2: But that's an S curl.
Speaker 1: I had a perm Don't get it.
Speaker 3: Fuck, that's a Jerry curl.
Speaker 1: That's a Jerry. That's what Cube had.
Speaker 3: Want to drift, Yes, fuck up myself, fuck up my ship,
Speaker 3: my material? Wait, Jery girl curl Erry same thing you
Speaker 3: call it the s curl, the little ones that.
Speaker 1: Of Puerto Ricans. If you poor Rican, you call it
Speaker 1: the a S curl? Got it all right? No, My
Speaker 1: ship was My ship was PERM.
Speaker 3: I was magnetic rollers a lot of body, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Pull it out.
Speaker 3: Them ships be crackling and the girl pushed the ways
Speaker 3: and you know that ship had to be right, you know,
Speaker 3: but it's this different ship.
Speaker 1: You know Big Worm had.
Speaker 3: A perm yeah, and Friday yeah yeah, but it was walled.
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, it's curlers.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Yeah, I'm bucking.
Speaker 3: I'm bugging with the head and ned I used to
Speaker 3: go to I used to go to junior high, I
Speaker 3: mean not high school. Home room with my curl is
Speaker 3: still in la shit is different wearing house and then
Speaker 3: in nutrition. Let the girls take my curls out.
Speaker 1: Let's rule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're gonna give you two choices. You pick one.
Speaker 2: We're good. Nobody's drinking. I mean I don't know how
Speaker 2: if he's taking shots or not. Now I'm fucking with you.
Speaker 3: Good, it's nice, all right, But this is this is
Speaker 3: very sophisticated.
Speaker 2: If you say both or neither, so the politically correct.
Speaker 2: If you don't pick an answer, then we're drinking.
Speaker 1: I don't care. You want me to go first. Let's
Speaker 1: play the rule, Let's play the game.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: I've submitted to your game. Let's go l L or
Speaker 1: big Dotty Kine.
Speaker 2: And you can say why if.
Speaker 1: You want to both.
Speaker 3: That both they both super rappers.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is gonna be interesting. Snoop Dogg or jay Z. Wow,
Speaker 1: let me get ready, They're so different.
Speaker 2: It's whatever criteria in your mind. If you pick, I.
Speaker 1: Just gotta go with Snoop Dogg. Okay, West Coast and
Speaker 1: you had to go down No, I'm going with Snoop.
Speaker 3: I think Snoop is the biggest rapper in the history
Speaker 3: of the world. I think that even though jay Z's
Speaker 3: bagged up rich. I think more people, parents, kids, will
Speaker 3: would recognize Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1: You don't think Snoop is the most famous rapper's I think?
Speaker 1: I think, I think I know he said it is
Speaker 1: his way, no, no no in the world.
Speaker 2: I think he's loved the most.
Speaker 3: He's transcended more different elements, and everybody loves Snoop. You know,
Speaker 3: jay Z is is a super power, But some people
Speaker 3: might not know who jay Z is. If they would,
Speaker 3: if you know it's Snoop. Snoop is a motherfucker. We
Speaker 3: love Snoop.
Speaker 5: Can you go anywhere and people not recognize.
Speaker 3: I could go fameous kind of like think of it
Speaker 3: like being a tennis player. You could be the number
Speaker 3: one in the world. But if you're not in the tennis,
Speaker 3: just walk right by, they were saying. So television has
Speaker 3: made me far more visible, and Coco is another one.
Speaker 3: So it's like the one two punch, Like me and
Speaker 3: Coco have this thing called I should have known. What
Speaker 3: should have known is like say, if we're at an
Speaker 3: airport and somebody's checking out Coco, they be checking her
Speaker 3: out and then they'll see me.
Speaker 1: They should have known.
Speaker 3: You see a hot chick, check around here, there might
Speaker 3: there should be something else floating near.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Ice, Cuber Scarface.
Speaker 3: Wow, they're so similar. Both, they're both you can take both.
Speaker 1: The shots.
Speaker 3: I used to go on the road when we first
Speaker 3: were touring when the Dope Jam tour, Ghetto boys, would
Speaker 3: you know what, pay the players? They would they would
Speaker 3: like they would pay Jay Prince would get him on
Speaker 3: the front of our show, like you know, like because
Speaker 3: they would and they would rip ship and I remember
Speaker 3: uh calling mister Scarface and and and Scarface would walk
Speaker 3: around and like throw crack in the audience like he
Speaker 3: had had little package either the show. That's different them
Speaker 3: niggas was he had the cane. That might be wrong,
Speaker 3: but I remember even saw the package, so it wasn't
Speaker 3: real crack. But it was like he was acting like like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 1: It was part of the show. Part of the show.
Speaker 3: But I was like, Yo, who are these Texas ass niggas?
Speaker 1: These niggas is ill? Ghetto boys was ill? What's swift?
Speaker 2: They was?
Speaker 1: They were ill? They were they were They were a.
Speaker 3: Solid gangster rapper, hardcore raps. Ever Willie d all of
Speaker 3: them when they would go come on, man, stop it
Speaker 3: and Scarface to me deeply rooted that album he just did.
Speaker 3: That made me want to make a new album, one
Speaker 3: of those lyrical out there. Yeah, but him and Cube
Speaker 3: have a similar type get down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love them both.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you said both, all right, Jada kiss or Nas?
Speaker 1: I don't like this question. You keep repeating this, Jada
Speaker 1: kiss or Nas both? Oh Jesus drink. Both both of
Speaker 1: are lyrical beasts. Uh.
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys, Like I look at people
Speaker 3: that I think can outrap me. I think everybody in
Speaker 3: hip hop. I look at hip hop like a basketball game.
Speaker 3: I know who got the jumpers, I know who got handles,
Speaker 3: but everybody has a place on the court, you know.
Speaker 3: So I might not be able to out rap noads,
Speaker 3: but I could say some shit fly in NOAs so
Speaker 3: saying so I'm gonna hit you with some fly shit
Speaker 3: world renowned as the king of the fly rhyme. You know,
Speaker 3: if I was dope, you could step on me five times.
Speaker 3: So those two rappers are lyrical beasts and you just
Speaker 3: listened to him for the punch rhymes.
Speaker 1: I love nads.
Speaker 3: I met nads with you know this humble super guys.
Speaker 1: Frank White or Nino Brown.
Speaker 3: Well, I have to go with Frank White, even though
Speaker 3: he turned into a snitch. But Nino was a Frank
Speaker 3: White was a real person. You know, Brown ain't shot
Speaker 3: nobody or soul, no dope. You know, Brown is based snipes.
Speaker 3: He's a character. So how would I pick the character
Speaker 3: over the real nigga?
Speaker 1: Frank White ain't King of New York. That's what that
Speaker 1: was based on a real I'm.
Speaker 3: Thinking of who you're thinking of American gangs today, Frank Lucas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: my mistake that is comparing Frank Lewis White is the
Speaker 3: motherfucker to Well, then of course it's neo Brown.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's what Brown. I can't funk with Wesley
Speaker 1: never like.
Speaker 2: Cancel that bitch.
Speaker 1: I'll get another one.
Speaker 5: He said, I never liked that pretty motherfucking myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah cold, yeah, yeah, okay, cool, Okay. I was thinking
Speaker 3: about Frank Lucas, Okay, cares one of rock n It's
Speaker 3: so totally different. I picked rock Kim only because rock
Speaker 3: Kim really changed the way we all started rapping. Like
Speaker 3: I didn't understand the term flow when I heard rock
Speaker 3: Kim and rock Him. Chris had had criminal minded out,
Speaker 3: but when I was making my first album, I had
Speaker 3: never really witnessed a hit record outside of Run DMC.
Speaker 3: And I was in Harlem and every car I came
Speaker 3: in the door, I came in the door. I said
Speaker 3: it before, I never let the work. It was in
Speaker 3: every single car, every car, Rock Kim. And then the
Speaker 3: next record came out, I take seven mcs put him
Speaker 3: in the line. I'm like, who is this motherfucker? And
Speaker 3: earlier I thought his name was Eric b Right because
Speaker 3: he just threw what my name is, rock Kim. But
Speaker 3: just the whole theory of how rob rap made me
Speaker 3: gotta I gotta wrap better and he didn't curse. Well,
Speaker 3: it didn't matter. Curson didn't matter at me. It was
Speaker 3: the flow of his rhyme and the confidence and the
Speaker 3: comfortableness he set in the in the in the beat,
Speaker 3: because at one time everyone was yelling on records.
Speaker 1: It was different.
Speaker 3: Now, No hats off to care Rests one. No, because
Speaker 3: you do not want to go against car Rests live.
Speaker 1: Nah. He's one of the best.
Speaker 3: You'll get destroyed, one of the best, and then he'll
Speaker 3: teach you a lesson to be at the same time,
Speaker 3: because Chris is big, Percy's big.
Speaker 1: He's a big nigga, like King's son. He's a big nigga.
Speaker 3: You'd be like word and then then he's loud, so
Speaker 3: he just is every commands the stage. Tupac or d
Speaker 3: MX mmm West Coast gonna hate me, but I say
Speaker 3: d MX. I'm much more of a DMX fan. I
Speaker 3: love pac I was friends with pac uh. But I
Speaker 3: did just like the more aggressive ship. You know, when
Speaker 3: I heard where my dog's hat, I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: who the fuck is this? I was in a club.
Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, the ship, you know, the rough
Speaker 3: rider's hands, and.
Speaker 1: You know, I did this more of my ship.
Speaker 3: You know, that's just I liked that pack is a
Speaker 3: human being, a man, it's something else.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was magical, you know, it's like you were sitting
Speaker 3: with young Malcolm X.
Speaker 1: You know. But music wise, d m X was more
Speaker 1: ic ta type ship.
Speaker 2: Let me DJ Quick or m C eight.
Speaker 1: They was battling for Well, I'll go with even though
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 3: Got off the phone with Quick, I gotta funk with
Speaker 3: m C eight. Well, let's just say both. It's going
Speaker 3: both on that one. Let's go with both. They both
Speaker 3: love you both on that and we need both of
Speaker 3: them on drink Champs. Yeah, we need both on drink Champs.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I know you sing about you say something
Speaker 3: pop people want to crucify you. I just well, I'm
Speaker 3: here to be honest, right, Yeah, please rough Friday's anth.
Speaker 1: That's just stup.
Speaker 3: I was like I was like DMX. I performed with
Speaker 3: DMX so many times. It's like, yo, he was rap
Speaker 3: art to rap and different ship just.
Speaker 2: Such as.
Speaker 3: He was like a monster. He was like a boxer,
Speaker 3: like you know, he made it. I'm going to do
Speaker 3: the show. He's going to fight.
Speaker 1: I got this ice. Come on here you go? All right,
Speaker 1: my who's the question?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Next question? You could go to the next question, B
Speaker 5: Street or break I skip one?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, he said both. He said he said quicker
Speaker 3: and m c A Yeah. M C went more on
Speaker 3: Tupac my m c A my favorite lyric. He said
Speaker 3: he told a homeboy, I'm the neighborhood rapper. He said,
Speaker 3: I'm the neighborhood jacker. One time, gaffle them up. C
Speaker 3: mwres I did, I said, Quick and mc I changed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's why Quick.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what they beef became about, you know,
Speaker 3: but yeah, interesting, but they both help and Quick is
Speaker 3: an incredible producer.
Speaker 1: What he's legendary.
Speaker 2: The next one too, B Street or Breaking two B Street,
Speaker 2: y'all pick Breaking too. Breaking.
Speaker 3: Breaking was really homogenized with more of a kid's movie,
Speaker 3: you know, Rest in Peace, Shabba do you know Boogoloo, Shrimp,
Speaker 3: you know, turbo Ozone, all that shit.
Speaker 1: It gave me a break. It was my.
Speaker 3: First job, really, uh but it wasn't as dope as
Speaker 3: Beach Street with New York City Breakers, that that scene
Speaker 3: where they broke in the subway and all that shit
Speaker 3: and Melloy melt.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was. It was our version. See
Speaker 1: what happened with Breaking was we thought that was bluzz
Speaker 1: and crips.
Speaker 3: We were in a club called the Radio. That was
Speaker 3: a New York club in LA. Club that had rock
Speaker 3: Steady Crew come there, Soul, Sonic Force, Cold Crush Brothers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's where I met Africa is crazy. So the
Speaker 3: producers walked in and seen the scene and said, we're
Speaker 3: gonna make a movie. You'll be on the stage, these
Speaker 3: kids will dance, and they just wrote some bullshit story,
Speaker 3: corny shit, and uh, you know, it was them trying
Speaker 3: to capitalize on a hip hop movement, but we wasn't
Speaker 3: enough hip hop in LA to really do it.
Speaker 1: New York City was official, so Wild Style.
Speaker 2: Because after whilst all of this while was wist, I.
Speaker 3: Was first, but Wild Style and B Street was way
Speaker 3: more official than Breaking Breaking was for kids.
Speaker 1: It was rainbow colors and bullshit.
Speaker 2: Wiston felt like a reality show, like a real like
Speaker 2: documentary type because I.
Speaker 3: Was just trying to, you know, get some paper and
Speaker 3: just be in the movie, you know. And I was
Speaker 3: trying to dress like break Back then I was dressing
Speaker 3: like Mellie Mail, you know, trying to be a rapper.
Speaker 2: Had the spikes, yeah, he had. I had all that.
Speaker 1: And you know who changed my image was Russell Simmons.
Speaker 1: What did Russell say?
Speaker 3: We were at a club in la and it was
Speaker 3: a rap show and Russell was there, and Russell and
Speaker 3: me was chilling and I had on like a feelss
Speaker 3: sweatsuits and k Swiss had a perm had a little
Speaker 3: cano bullshit, you know, and whoever the crap the act was.
Speaker 3: They called me on the stage. I used to in
Speaker 3: the Building's I going to State and I rap? And
Speaker 3: Russell's like, that's your look, fuck New York. Like you
Speaker 3: trying to look like New York. You gotta look like
Speaker 3: la Ice. That is your look. The way you look now,
Speaker 3: the way you dress on a regular He said, that's
Speaker 3: why run DMC looks like Jamster J. That's how jam
Speaker 3: mess J used to dress. He says, you're authentic l
Speaker 3: A Street Ship. That's you rock that And that was
Speaker 3: the end of me with the New York ship.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was a birth.
Speaker 3: And then when you see me on the Ryan Page cover,
Speaker 3: I had on the cagofs in the Porsche with the
Speaker 3: girl Darlene and my boy in the palm tree. That
Speaker 3: was all Russe. Russell said that you you gotta represent
Speaker 3: l A. I mean, you love New York, but you
Speaker 3: gotta hit l A.
Speaker 1: That's that's dope.
Speaker 2: We gotta make some noise.
Speaker 1: Russell came to my star too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Russell always gave me some good game.
Speaker 1: You want to do the next one?
Speaker 5: Nipsey are easy piece of both both both both that
Speaker 5: both both legends.
Speaker 3: Nip had so much left to do. Nip was just
Speaker 3: getting started. But he's a good person, good soul, you know.
Speaker 3: It's just it just reinforces us that, you know, the
Speaker 3: safest place you think you are, you at the most risk.
Speaker 3: You know, like because that's Player always told me, you
Speaker 3: get hitting your strong spot. Player, the place you think
Speaker 3: you the most secure, that's where you're gonna hit.
Speaker 1: You think you're cool with the bitches, you think.
Speaker 3: You got that in check, That's where you're gonna get
Speaker 3: hit because you're not guarding that, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So those those moments when we feel the most comfortable,
Speaker 3: you're in the most danger. Even though all of us
Speaker 3: is here having a good time. If the cats coming in,
Speaker 3: they they got an advantage on us because we're.
Speaker 1: Comfortable, you're not. One point.
Speaker 3: So that Nip was very comfortable in his neighborhood and
Speaker 3: it went wrong, and uh he d rest in peace.
Speaker 3: Nipsey hustle. He was just getting warmed up.
Speaker 1: You do the next n w A or Wu Tang
Speaker 1: Now you skip one.
Speaker 3: No, I know, but we said n w A or
Speaker 3: Wu Tang both okay, both similar energy. I think n
Speaker 3: w A is two rappers. I always was in all
Speaker 3: Wu Tang nine mcs.
Speaker 1: Fuck you do that.
Speaker 3: Because you just said n w A two rappers with
Speaker 3: two rappers. I mean Easy would rapper with him. But
Speaker 3: n w A is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: N and Q yeah, yeah, Ren and Q Yeah, they
Speaker 1: pretty much wrote.
Speaker 3: And then dre and Yellower Jane Reiler in the background,
Speaker 3: and Easy would jump on occasionally. But those were the
Speaker 3: two main rappers in n w A. Wu Tang is nine.
Speaker 3: You heard the story about me getting surrounded by Wu Tang.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us again us, tell us y'all heard that story.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 2: I'm at an event.
Speaker 3: I'm at an event in New York City MC Light event, right,
Speaker 3: So this is before Wu Tang it came out. I
Speaker 3: get surrounded. I look at the nigga here. There's a
Speaker 3: nigga here. It's a nigga here. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: my way out is this way. I look at a
Speaker 3: nigga there.
Speaker 1: Nigga there. I'm like, I'm surrounded, Yo, what up? I yo? Yo?
Speaker 3: We y'all in this Wu Tang. I think it's a gang.
Speaker 3: I'm la like a gang?
Speaker 1: Is it over? Is the moment I fear should my
Speaker 1: chain is crawl inside of my like, you know, like
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like they be like yo yo woo woo.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so what's up. Yeah, we from y'allin Yo.
Speaker 3: We fucks with you West Coast Hardcourt Ship.
Speaker 1: We fucked. I'm like, oh you like me.
Speaker 2: They're like yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, what's happening. What's happened.
Speaker 3: But for a moment, the whole room stop right. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: they're about to what the fuck? So they told me this,
Speaker 3: they showed me how to do this shit. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: yo woo woo woo. Like I said, it was the
Speaker 3: moment I feared, I thought it was going down, and
Speaker 3: they went off and blah blah blah, and later on. Now,
Speaker 3: the thing of it is, I can't tell if any
Speaker 3: of the actual Wu Tang members were those guys because
Speaker 3: there was so.
Speaker 1: Many of them, and I was so scared.
Speaker 3: Hey, I wanted to do so I'm like this, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm six feet two twenty two guys, ten guys.
Speaker 3: I'm about to get stumped the fuck out. And I
Speaker 3: was like, Yo, this is gonna go bad. I'm by myself,
Speaker 3: so uh yeah, but they didn't. They was fans so
Speaker 3: bow and then I saw the Wu Tang clan come out.
Speaker 3: I was just always amazing at nine mcs. You could
Speaker 3: put nine mcs on the record, and then each one
Speaker 3: of them, it was like each one of them had
Speaker 3: a different skill like a kung Fu movie, you know,
Speaker 3: I like genius. Yeah, It's just like I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: just his rhyme and ship was always you know, super shit.
Speaker 1: Heem a sword sharp, you know he was. I like that.
Speaker 1: I love O d B. I like all. I like
Speaker 1: all of them. I think they all even all of
Speaker 1: them have superpowers.
Speaker 5: You know what, Before we move on, we want to
Speaker 5: wish everybody happy Father's Day from Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: Everyone is just except.
Speaker 5: For mister Lee you know what I called sunny d
Speaker 5: you know, but everybody out there, we gotta give you
Speaker 5: a fall day and give him you got off Drink
Speaker 5: Champ slippers back chap flock.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying, not damn the first one
Speaker 1: that got. We don't even got to pay. We don't
Speaker 1: even got I.
Speaker 3: Call this happy motherfucker. Yeah, I mean, I mean, y'all,
Speaker 3: I'm hooked up. I'm gonna be able to open up
Speaker 3: a little store, Jake Champ's store around this bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, take this ship right down on Ocean Drive and
Speaker 1: this most wanted or above the law?
Speaker 3: They both both you know, uh yeah, both you got
Speaker 3: you got. Uh well, that's MC eight again. Yeah right,
Speaker 3: sip don't remember. Oh yeah, that's MC eight again. And
Speaker 3: by the law, that's Big Hutch cold rest in peace,
Speaker 3: lay law. See the cool thing about West Coast rap
Speaker 3: None of us ever had any beef. The only beef
Speaker 3: ever happened was nw A, and that was a family
Speaker 3: feud between them. So Cuba and A right, right, So
Speaker 3: I created Rhyme Syndicate, which was based on on Lucky
Speaker 3: Luciano and the Commission. I read all gangs and novels
Speaker 3: about Mayer Landski and all that ship to learn how
Speaker 3: to say out of jail.
Speaker 1: Right, So I learned.
Speaker 3: I read about my Lucky Louciano creating commission with the
Speaker 3: five families, so that they wouldn't beef befo they talk.
Speaker 1: We sit down, We have a sit down.
Speaker 3: So I said, with rhyme syndicate, all of us will
Speaker 3: agree to have a sit down. So you got Cypress Hill,
Speaker 3: you got a low profile with dub C and all them,
Speaker 3: all these different groups. I'm the founder, I'm not Yeah, Mugs,
Speaker 3: Mugs was syndicate Muggs ever everlast Mugs had a group
Speaker 3: called seven eight three.
Speaker 2: That's right, okay, so he was.
Speaker 3: He used to live with Alatin, So all these cats
Speaker 3: were together. So I just said, look, too many crips
Speaker 3: and bloods. We're gonna be the rhyme sindicate are So
Speaker 3: there is no gang banging within the syndicate and we
Speaker 3: managed to have peace. Every once in a while the
Speaker 3: would be a beef, we put the bosses in the room,
Speaker 3: squash it and it real quick because the boss has
Speaker 3: always got cool heads, like what's the problem fing oh man, no,
Speaker 3: my man? Okay, well apologize, nigga okay, cool cool vous.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody got shot bam.
Speaker 3: So we never had no beef on the West Coast.
Speaker 3: Everybody stayed friends. And when NWA went at each other
Speaker 3: like we politely stepped back I'm gonna get mad when
Speaker 3: Cuban eat their friends.
Speaker 1: We all hung out.
Speaker 3: Together, and it's about business too. Whatever it's about. Like
Speaker 3: I say, nobody got shot self destruction or all in
Speaker 3: the same game. Both definitely take a shot to that.
Speaker 1: Both because.
Speaker 3: Hip hop has the ability to change the way we
Speaker 3: see things. One of my favorite records is Brand Nubi
Speaker 3: and Slowed Down. You know hey, baby, you know you
Speaker 3: know shit is whack. Crack is whack, like where everybody
Speaker 3: when cocaine hit, we all looked at it like it
Speaker 3: was fly because it was a high end drug. Then
Speaker 3: we realized it was killing us. So rap may crack whack.
Speaker 3: Bay says, we have that power. They have the power
Speaker 3: to make syrup whack if they want to. They can
Speaker 3: make all this shit whack. Like wow, you still doing that, cuz,
Speaker 3: like what's happening? So with the violence, New York came
Speaker 3: out and did self destruction. Michael Conception was out there,
Speaker 3: he had grand jury records. He called up he said,
Speaker 3: I want to do something from the West Coast.
Speaker 1: That was Michael Conception.
Speaker 2: Dad and I heard Karris One recently talked about this
Speaker 2: story as though.
Speaker 1: So I get the call for Mike he says, you know,
Speaker 1: need to do this. Do you remember all the people
Speaker 1: that was in on all the same.
Speaker 3: Games, Lord Faness if you watch it, Lord Fanessa's with me.
Speaker 3: Got Deaf Jeff, but Lord Fanessa's from New York. But
Speaker 3: he was actually signed to me at the time, so
Speaker 3: he was in LA when we shot it, and he's
Speaker 3: there on the west side of the video.
Speaker 5: Okay, but you know the actual record, you remember the
Speaker 5: artists on them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, number we did our Senio, but it wasn't it
Speaker 3: was you know, you just go do your bar, say
Speaker 3: your ship and uh, don't be left out. It's one
Speaker 3: of those kinds of things where it was a bigger
Speaker 3: disc not to be on the record, right, but it was.
Speaker 3: It had good intentions and somebody like Mike, who definitely
Speaker 3: was a street nigga, to say I want to do this.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, you're doing something right, let's go.
Speaker 3: Let's do it, you know, because I knew Mike conception
Speaker 3: for years before, you know, so well he was in
Speaker 3: a wheelchair. Yeah, but you know it was a good
Speaker 3: it was it was meant to be. Those are two
Speaker 3: good things hip hop did. Hip hop needs to do
Speaker 3: another one right now. Yeah, the youngsters do. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: That resonates the same way because that's the thing it
Speaker 2: worked back then.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you, I'll tell you who should do it.
Speaker 5: Where should come from the South? Yeah, because yeah, they're
Speaker 5: already together. If they was to do like a put
Speaker 5: your guns down, stop the violence type of movement, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like I'm talking about, you know,
Speaker 5: the powerful people from the South.
Speaker 1: Like I think, I think it would make a huge impact.
Speaker 3: It has to be maybe maybe somebody like killing Mike.
Speaker 3: But the thing of it is is that you got
Speaker 3: to understand it has to be that certain age.
Speaker 5: It's got to be even it's got to go younger. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Like I always I was thinking like more like a future.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, Future's hot.
Speaker 1: I mean like it's not.
Speaker 5: It's not like I mean, he knows how to make
Speaker 5: the music that's still relevant. He knows how to how
Speaker 5: to orchestrate it. And I think that if if Future
Speaker 5: was to come out right now, what everyone put your
Speaker 5: guns down type of type of record, like.
Speaker 2: But even bringing people under him that are younger, even
Speaker 2: then make.
Speaker 3: It a club record, Like making a club record.
Speaker 1: That would be so fucking dope. I'm not in the
Speaker 1: record business no more.
Speaker 3: You know, but if anybody out there is listening, if
Speaker 3: right now, what could hit be a young public enemy
Speaker 3: and the young laurn Hill them too, a young Lauryn Hill,
Speaker 3: a singer, rapper, beautiful woman, speaking pro black, not doing
Speaker 3: the huci shit, just keeping it straight, solid like Lauren did.
Speaker 3: Well we got Rhapsody, okay, Well then she's out there. Okay,
Speaker 3: well then she needs to we gotta blow her up.
Speaker 3: But Rhapsody And then a young twenty twenty year old
Speaker 3: militant little niggas that ain't about no jewelry or nothing.
Speaker 1: Was about what's right. That's what we need.
Speaker 3: Contra close contrast to me. They like leaders in the
Speaker 3: news school though they but but I'm talking about some
Speaker 3: little militant niggas that will that know they knowledge. They
Speaker 3: got their knowledge together because remember you know Professor Griff
Speaker 3: was hitting the stage.
Speaker 1: They're like twenty.
Speaker 3: Five mgainn it's benefact getting late pasts. I'm like, who
Speaker 3: is this little nigga Like Shu I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I'm gonna pussy. I gotta get my
Speaker 3: shit together, like Yo, this is going. That's when W's
Speaker 3: had me like fucked up and honestly, public Enemy.
Speaker 1: The public Enemy made.
Speaker 3: Us West Coast rappers get more militant in our records,
Speaker 3: not just talk about bullshit and talk about issues.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, you hear, nwa do.
Speaker 2: Respect, just say they made you accountable amongst.
Speaker 3: The shit we talk about the stream. And then I
Speaker 3: toured with Pe that was my number one touring partner.
Speaker 3: So I went around the world three times in Public Enemy,
Speaker 3: so I knew what they was about.
Speaker 1: You know, you're telling them to pimph the hole and
Speaker 1: they telling them, girl go home. That's what I call
Speaker 1: a ballance.
Speaker 3: Well you know what way we did it. I said,
Speaker 3: Chuck's politics are global. Minds are basically around the hood.
Speaker 3: So he'll tell you about the president. I'm telling you
Speaker 3: about the guy that runs your block. That's the president
Speaker 3: in my world. So I had the pistol and he
Speaker 3: had the African tendate, so he was more geopolitical world.
Speaker 1: I iced to gonna tell you what's going on on
Speaker 1: the block, point blank. So we both and.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I remember one time
Speaker 3: I was with we went to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's
Speaker 3: house and sat with Minister fair Come.
Speaker 1: This is when I was in the cop Killer shit.
Speaker 1: It was me Q.
Speaker 3: Sister, Soldier Chuck, and we sat with Don Colin was
Speaker 3: sitting across from me, Remember Colin Holin Muhammad and I
Speaker 3: got really close with Mustafa the brother, the son of
Speaker 3: It was interesting and that was during the time I
Speaker 3: was going through cop Killer and Soldier was going you
Speaker 3: got honor. Elijah Muhammad just told me straight up, if
Speaker 3: you stand in the street, expect to get hit by
Speaker 3: a car. You basically said cop Killer, like, get ready,
Speaker 3: And that's when I learned that freedom of speech.
Speaker 1: Just watch what you say.
Speaker 3: You have the right to say anything, but you must
Speaker 3: be prepared here for the ramifications of what you say.
Speaker 3: You can't come out and dis gay people and don't
Speaker 3: get mad when they attack. You can't dis cops. You
Speaker 3: can't like Kanye, you can't this the Jewish. You say,
Speaker 3: get ready, brace for impact, because they will come back
Speaker 3: if you sit down. If you're Colin Kaepernick, you put
Speaker 3: your knee down. Get ready. Protests will come with resistance.
Speaker 3: That's why it's protests. Don't get mad when you get attacked.
Speaker 1: Brace. If you want to put your fIF.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put my fist if I'm gonna say something
Speaker 3: right here, right now that might make me lose my job.
Speaker 1: Don't get mad because I lose my job. See what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You have You have a freedom of speech.
Speaker 1: You can go home.
Speaker 3: You can't go home to your wife and say, baby,
Speaker 3: I'll as fuck your sister.
Speaker 1: Free speech.
Speaker 3: Right. You have the right to say it, but you
Speaker 3: gotta think what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So there it is. I learned that.
Speaker 3: I learned that during the cop killer thing. And uh
Speaker 3: now I I I intention lea. I'm not ever trying
Speaker 3: to start no beef.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: If I wanted, I wanted, let's put it like that,
Speaker 3: if I wanted, I want, I want no unintentional ship.
Speaker 3: You know, fux up everything like the mob. You say,
Speaker 3: it's fucking with the money, man, it's fucking with the money,
Speaker 3: Like why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Dumb shit? Fucks with the bunny.
Speaker 3: Like my boy says, keep the cash flow of the
Speaker 3: maximum and the drama at a minimum.
Speaker 1: Okay, next one Primo or Pete Robins who both geez.
Speaker 3: Both I missed cel smooth yeah man, Pete rock and
Speaker 3: move together.
Speaker 2: YopE.
Speaker 3: See us movie used to say, ell shit, Mama's in
Speaker 3: the kitchen cooking fire, Like, what the fuck are you
Speaker 3: talking about? Like that Nigga would say some smooth ship
Speaker 3: you know, butter sauce on the web, like what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Like it was so fly. I was like, Seeo smooth.
Speaker 3: It's the smoothest rapper probably in the history of the world.
Speaker 3: But you know, fe Rox Beats is just official. Now
Speaker 3: when you talk about Primo gangster gangs starts slepting my house.
Speaker 3: Gang Guru was Yeah, he was the best man, such
Speaker 3: a real person and so so dope. I used to
Speaker 3: love to see Guru and Cool Keith hanging out together
Speaker 3: that ship. That must have been crazy for Guru and
Speaker 3: then Primo ship is just the most to me. Primo
Speaker 3: has the is the god of the boom back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's yeah, hands down.
Speaker 3: And the god of the of the of the scratch
Speaker 3: hook yep, Like he'll put a hook on you with
Speaker 3: four different rappers and it's just so dope. If you
Speaker 3: want to, if you want to test your rap skills,
Speaker 3: get a Primo beat and go in. I mean, m
Speaker 3: O p like Freddie Fox, who can fucking Fox? Jay
Speaker 3: routed damage Jesus Christ group Home gave you the damage
Speaker 3: to come clean.
Speaker 2: Roster five nine with pre.
Speaker 1: How does She Go? You want to find get your luck?
Speaker 1: If you're feeling lucky duck, then.
Speaker 2: Press your luck.
Speaker 3: My nines break, my mind's break mylignant lyrics? Who raps
Speaker 3: like that? Like you know, dom your remains put in
Speaker 3: a car trunk? You can't come to that of the
Speaker 3: truck and that young you want to survive it live.
Speaker 3: I don't gang bang a shootout bang bang. I'm alignant lyrics.
Speaker 3: The only dope I saying I'm a true gangster. You
Speaker 3: could tell that.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker like I was like and had the undercut.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know that.
Speaker 5: Water dripping right, Yeah, the water like I have it
Speaker 5: with the with the stove, with the stove.
Speaker 3: And the thing of it is in a rapper's career
Speaker 3: and a rapper's career, you might make a classic record,
Speaker 3: but you might make three.
Speaker 1: But some records it's just like come clean. It's just
Speaker 1: that's like special ed.
Speaker 3: I got to make immy idel your highest title. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: this is a classic hip hop records. So Premiere Premire's
Speaker 3: from Texas?
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 3: How did the most New York nigga in the world Texas.
Speaker 3: But you know what else was? I'm talking about beats.
Speaker 3: You know else was one of my favorite beating nuts.
Speaker 1: Love beating nuts. We love to beat.
Speaker 2: Love of beating uts and they deserve. Part two of
Speaker 2: Drinking and Rain of.
Speaker 3: The Tech is one of the most gangster records ever written.
Speaker 1: John Wayne couldn't even stand the rain at the video.
Speaker 2: Who is these things niggas coming out of producers? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: psycho le tongue.
Speaker 1: So yeah juju.
Speaker 3: So you know, like I'm saying, since we're doing the
Speaker 3: hardcore ship, we got the hardcore radar up. So when
Speaker 3: that came out, I'm like, oh, that was they produced
Speaker 3: one of my records.
Speaker 1: It's a hold on. Let me just on podcast or radio.
Speaker 3: I think podcasts because podcasts right now you're talking to
Speaker 3: me for hour or two, which is much more comfortable
Speaker 3: than radio. Radio you're always trying to promote something. I
Speaker 3: haven't promoted anything radio. You rappers have this switch where
Speaker 3: they can hit and they going to promo mode. I
Speaker 3: got three seconds.
Speaker 1: They get my new record. Man, take my shoes. I
Speaker 1: got my shoes.
Speaker 3: It's bopping off and it's a man it's on.
Speaker 1: Fuck y'all, this is my ass now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fuck y'all.
Speaker 1: I love you kissed my ass bitches.
Speaker 3: You know that's that's rap, that's wrap motive. This is
Speaker 3: this is where we get to just shill all right
Speaker 3: like that. And also about podcasts, is you get to
Speaker 3: pick who you fuck with? Like if you don't like
Speaker 3: me and you made it to this part of the podcast,
Speaker 3: she's a stupid mother.
Speaker 1: You was a dumb motherfucker.
Speaker 3: You have plenty of time to turn this ship off.
Speaker 3: I'm not your I'm not your ship. Yeah, I love
Speaker 3: this question. Kill out will or America's most Wanted? Well,
Speaker 3: those are two ice Cube records, right, I kind of
Speaker 3: say both.
Speaker 1: I couldn't.
Speaker 2: It should have been the certificate of America's Most Wanted.
Speaker 3: I mean all ice Q's albums me rate pretty much
Speaker 3: the same. The only one who rates higher would be
Speaker 3: Straight out of Compton, which is nw A. But ice
Speaker 3: Q had A has a basic, solid body of work.
Speaker 1: Be sid yeah said, I love you know one thing
Speaker 1: about me.
Speaker 3: The rappers I like are digestible, like I love Nori
Speaker 3: because I understand what they're saying. I'm a mob deep fan.
Speaker 3: Prodigy is my favorite rapper because I understand what he's
Speaker 3: saying it's legible. I understand it. So that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Like I like rappers where I don't have to decode it.
Speaker 3: You know that can sit up and fit shit to me.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Yo, that was dope. I got that.
Speaker 3: And you know ice Cube is one of those rappers.
Speaker 3: You know, I try to be that kind of rapper.
Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, I say in one of my rhymes,
Speaker 3: I say, I check your style. Although you rhyme quicker,
Speaker 3: no matter what you do, I'll always lace mind thicker, jealousy.
Speaker 3: You'll make a fool dot quicker than liquor watch your
Speaker 3: back with your nigga, because that's right, will Is stick you.
Speaker 3: So I said, I got to rhyme heavy. I wanted
Speaker 3: you listen to ice rhys wool. That was that shit,
Speaker 3: not even a bar, not not even wordplay game. So yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I just did a cool Keith record where
Speaker 3: I say it's not how long you're living. I said, well, no,
Speaker 3: it's not how well you're living, it's how long you're
Speaker 3: living well.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you new Jack City or Ricochet
Speaker 1: new Jack City? New Jack City.
Speaker 3: I mean Ricochet was my first co starring, but New
Speaker 3: Jack City is my legendary flim you know, like yeah,
Speaker 3: still when I do my shows, I end with new Jack,
Speaker 3: Hustler and Colors. Those are my Those would be my
Speaker 3: biggest records.
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre or Puff, Daddy.
Speaker 3: Dray, Okay, Drey, no doubt. I love Puffy. Puffy to
Speaker 3: me is the ring master. He's the master of everything
Speaker 3: that moves in hip hop. He does his thing. He's
Speaker 3: a magnificent promoter and stuff like that. But I'm not
Speaker 3: really I don't know Puffy's true producing power. As far
Speaker 3: as what Dre does. Dre is a studio rat, stays
Speaker 3: in the studio. The only thing about Dre and Dre
Speaker 3: is one of my very fearest friends. The reason I
Speaker 3: never record with Dre is it it's never come out.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's let's work.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, now we did it, let's put it.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3: He's very so meticulous. But see the thing of this,
Speaker 3: when you sell ten million records, you don't want to
Speaker 3: put out anything that's not going to sell ten million records.
Speaker 1: But he just finished the new album with Snoop. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's the them.
Speaker 3: Because Snoop is Dre's first artist, Right, that's the that's
Speaker 3: the magic. I can't wait to hear that. I've heard
Speaker 3: a lot of it. But uh oh you've heard it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I get, I got a whole I got. My phone
Speaker 3: is full of out doctor Dre records. So what do
Speaker 3: you think in compares to his body of work? That
Speaker 3: what you've heard so far, it's just magnificent. See Dre
Speaker 3: Dre Dre, I guess has certain people he trusts, and
Speaker 3: so I listened to the music and I give him
Speaker 3: back my on my opinion, honest feedback. Like he'll send
Speaker 3: me five records, I'll say this is my favorite. That's
Speaker 3: all you need. I like this one out of all
Speaker 3: of them. And stuff, But Dres special cool. Next question,
Speaker 3: don't think Puffy ain't special. Though Puffy invited me to
Speaker 3: a lot of fly ass parties, I don't want to
Speaker 3: my advitations.
Speaker 1: Fuck.
Speaker 3: I love love love, mister love, I love you. Don't
Speaker 3: get it wrong. Don't get it wrong. I fucked with Puff.
Speaker 3: Puff is cool with me. Let the record show.
Speaker 2: So would you rather be loved or fear?
Speaker 1: Love?
Speaker 3: Absolutely love fear. Fear is not is not it's the bullshit.
Speaker 3: Love keeps you safe. The reason nobody'll letting nothing happen
Speaker 3: to me in here, because you motherfuckers got love for
Speaker 3: me now, because nobody's scared of me. Scared man, it
Speaker 3: only takes six ounces of pressure from a kid torpedo.
Speaker 1: Send a kid at you pole, they put you down.
Speaker 2: Can I break this down?
Speaker 1: This is a good one.
Speaker 3: If you got love, you have a group of people
Speaker 3: around you that love you. That's your inner circle, right,
Speaker 3: you take and carry them. They talk to other people
Speaker 3: and they say, yo, yo, fan's my man, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: That's another circle. Maybe you helping them, They helping them.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's another circle of people outside of them. They hear, oh,
Speaker 3: Fan's a good dude, that's my man. Right, So it's
Speaker 3: a big circle.
Speaker 1: That ice is a good or you're a good dude.
Speaker 3: You know how you're in danger is when your inner
Speaker 3: circle turns on you. When you're inner circle, it got
Speaker 3: a problem. And they the ones that can let motherfuckers in.
Speaker 3: But if you got that circle right before somebody over
Speaker 3: to the left moves on you, they're gonna run into
Speaker 3: one of your people. It's like, nah, that's not gonna
Speaker 3: happen Cuz because of love of layers of love, not fear.
Speaker 3: Fear is a challenge. Fear is a challenge. Oh he's
Speaker 3: supposed to be hard, nigga. Fuck that nigga. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But love will protect you to an extent,
Speaker 3: to an extent, because, like I told Nori last night,
Speaker 3: the bullet will hit you before the rep hits them.
Speaker 3: So I'm in I'm in South Beach cruising fly they
Speaker 3: move on a.
Speaker 1: Car blow, I got hit. That was ice. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So the niggas out at night doing dirt, they can
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Why Why do I know that element is out because
Speaker 3: I used to be in that element looking for fucking
Speaker 3: hunting niggas. So I know you're in danger out there.
Speaker 3: You look like a big piggy bank. You in a
Speaker 3: may box, you look like a big piggy bank. But
Speaker 3: in a real situation, the only reason that anybody in
Speaker 3: here would hold me down is because they got love
Speaker 3: for me, not because they're afraid of me. Fuck out
Speaker 3: of here, yo yo, or Lady of Rage, I'm not
Speaker 3: fucking with that one. Both we just dope. Rage has
Speaker 3: what we just talked about a classic record. You say
Speaker 3: Afro Puffs is rage I mean that ship was so
Speaker 3: hard and then Yo Yo is cubes girl.
Speaker 1: Yoyo is so dope in real life.
Speaker 3: She's such a real champ, a real person, a sweetheart.
Speaker 3: I'm the kind of person like I put the West
Speaker 3: Coast on my back, like all all West Coast rappers.
Speaker 1: We all family, you know.
Speaker 3: So I would never talk down on neither of them chicks,
Speaker 3: and both of them always treated me sweet.
Speaker 1: That's what's up. So Mob Deep or Mop.
Speaker 2: Shit?
Speaker 3: I say both, even though like I say, Mob Deep
Speaker 3: is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, gotta take a big one
Speaker 3: in now, that's a good one. Mob Deep and Mop.
Speaker 3: I did song recently with Fame and Little Fame, uh
Speaker 3: Havoc and ras Cans. Wow, they got a little group
Speaker 3: they put together. So I did a video with Depth, but.
Speaker 1: Little Fame, Havoc and Rass I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something coming, there's something coming. We shot a
Speaker 3: video and stuff, but I'm not I'm just in the video.
Speaker 3: But like I say, like to me, Mob Deep, Mob
Speaker 3: Deep is the calm before the storm, and Mop.
Speaker 1: Is a storm. Well MP came out first, but MP
Speaker 1: black vibes, you know, like Yo coming out some wall corner.
Speaker 3: I did a record billy dance and it's like, Yo,
Speaker 3: that's hit. The way they do it, they have a
Speaker 3: technique on how they do it to get that ship
Speaker 3: like that, the ad libs are sick.
Speaker 1: But then then like mob deep, it's just like it's scary. See.
Speaker 3: My thing with gangster rap is the music has to
Speaker 3: match the content. Like I've never been into like saying
Speaker 3: gangster shit over happy music like that didn't work for me.
Speaker 3: So like when I heard when you hear fall Killers
Speaker 3: in the hundred dollar ability, real niggas who ain't got
Speaker 3: no filter on before they even start rapping, you like
Speaker 3: niggas start stabbing niggas. You know, it just gets you
Speaker 3: in that zone. I got your tuck off the realness.
Speaker 3: We be the infamous.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, this shit is so gangster. So
Speaker 1: that's my thing.
Speaker 3: Gangster music should always have that that sound. Now, now, Annie, y'all,
Speaker 3: there's two records. I stand up in the club, two
Speaker 3: records that I don't care what the fuck happens.
Speaker 1: I stand up. When jay Z says allow.
Speaker 3: Me to reintroduce myself, I'm like, oh, I'm like hate it.
Speaker 3: Oh me, I'm in the club. I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 3: my sh I stand up in an yuh when Annie yup,
Speaker 3: I stand up. I can't help I gotta get it.
Speaker 3: You know my other record that makes me stand up too.
Speaker 3: You don't want them boys to come over and start
Speaker 3: asking you what you want to do, what.
Speaker 2: You're trying to do?
Speaker 1: Record, He's a good nigga.
Speaker 3: I love the party. I love I just love the
Speaker 3: word nigga. What you want to do, nigga, what you're
Speaker 3: trying to do? Yeah, that record gets me a turn.
Speaker 3: Certain records now this one is that's a good one.
Speaker 3: Illmatic or all os on me?
Speaker 1: Illmatic?
Speaker 3: Illmatic because like I say, I'm much more of a
Speaker 3: lyrical cat. And I loved Illmatic when it first came
Speaker 3: out and stuff like that. I love pop, but it's
Speaker 3: I only like certain Park records. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I only like certain Park records. It's my it's my taste.
Speaker 3: Now crucify me on the West coast. But I'm a
Speaker 3: much I was studying OS and I think the nods
Speaker 3: being what was he sixteen?
Speaker 1: He was young.
Speaker 3: That eliminates the excuse of young rappers claiming while I'm young,
Speaker 3: that kid was, you know, and I sat there, listened
Speaker 3: to that album, like, I gotta get better, right, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's what I like.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're the baddest nigg in the room,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna grow. You know, when I go out,
Speaker 3: I want to be the brokest nigg in the room.
Speaker 3: That's the only way I can come up, you know.
Speaker 3: So I like to be around So I like, I
Speaker 3: love being around busting rhymes and super rappers and shit
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: You think is just as good as you are better.
Speaker 3: When I first started rapping, I was in the studio
Speaker 3: with Cat, with Melly Mel and Kaz and at first,
Speaker 3: people I ever.
Speaker 1: Seen right in the studio, right, they raps in the studio.
Speaker 3: But they was like, yo, if you write it to
Speaker 3: the beat, it's gonna flow better than if you write
Speaker 3: it and try to push it over to beat.
Speaker 1: I had to learn that. Now I don't write. I
Speaker 1: don't write until I got the beat. I learned that.
Speaker 3: But Nas is a nazz, half man, half amazing. This
Speaker 3: nigg is something else and and like and Park was too,
Speaker 3: but Pock had to kind of grow. I don't know
Speaker 3: the thing of it is with pop. I knew punk
Speaker 3: when he was in Digital Underground. So it took me
Speaker 3: a minute to accept Park as a rapper because we're
Speaker 3: gonna come back to that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: refight to that SCHOOLI D or cool or who's you at?
Speaker 3: Two different type rappers? Uh, well, I can't compare them.
Speaker 3: I'll say both.
Speaker 1: Right, take a sip. Well you're all just taking a system.
Speaker 2: What kind of part of the game is this.
Speaker 1: I've been going back and forth. If school D is
Speaker 1: the is the inventor of gangster rap?
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's the in your opinion inventor, because they say
Speaker 5: you're the inventor against the rap.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I put the fentonyl hold on, hold on
Speaker 1: breaking news.
Speaker 3: Finally ever, finally, yes, do you say, who's the originated
Speaker 3: against school D?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Also, there's another group in New York called Mob Style
Speaker 3: Mob Style, Right, David a gangster yourself?
Speaker 5: I was after actually a Z from the Alphole Crew.
Speaker 5: He was actually in that group.
Speaker 1: I believe he was writing no, no, no, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty tony ye pretty ye.
Speaker 3: Alright, So anyway, Mob Style and school I don't know what.
Speaker 3: I don't know when Mob Style came out. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't I can't know so that, but I was aware
Speaker 3: of that group. Okay, all right, you know, if people
Speaker 3: trying to put you in history, you want to be
Speaker 3: placed correctly. I don't want to know fucking fake ship. Yes,
Speaker 3: So the schooly D story goes like this. I was
Speaker 3: already writing gangster raps, but I never put it on wax.
Speaker 3: I was writing rhymes for gang bangers. One here, gang
Speaker 3: bang around. Yeah, strolling through the city in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night. Niggas on my left, niggas on my
Speaker 3: right yelling cut cut cut rip. That'd be nigga. I'll
Speaker 3: see if you bad enough, come fuck with me. I
Speaker 3: seen another nigga. I say crip again. He sayd fuck
Speaker 3: a crip nigga.
Speaker 2: This is brim.
Speaker 3: So we pulled out the rosco. Roscoe said, crack. I
Speaker 3: look again. Nigga was shooting back, so we fell to
Speaker 3: the ground. Ain't for his head one more time. The
Speaker 3: bitch nigga was dead, walked over to him, took his gun,
Speaker 3: spitting his face, and began to run. So if you
Speaker 3: see another nigga laying dead in the street and a
Speaker 3: puddle of blood from his head to his feet, open time.
Speaker 3: All your niggas get hip. It's fuck of brim niggas,
Speaker 3: west side cryp. I said that on the others, on
Speaker 3: the other drink champs because I then I ended with
Speaker 3: rolling sixty crip. But that was something I would say.
Speaker 3: One here, one more, I got an I don't know
Speaker 3: how to fuck you on TV. This This was even
Speaker 3: This was even more fun. This one's even more fun.
Speaker 3: I said this and crench your eyes.
Speaker 2: So like this.
Speaker 3: Fall into a party on a Saturday night and I
Speaker 3: left the pad down and out for a fight. Had
Speaker 3: on a waistline leather Levi's cuff under the coat. I
Speaker 3: knew I was buffed because I was driving the iron
Speaker 3: getting ready for that set, and I was packing a
Speaker 3: punching nigga. Never forget the ring in my ear was
Speaker 3: hanging halfway to the floor, and I was so tight
Speaker 3: I walked sideways out the door. Now the hoop hee
Speaker 3: was lifted front side and rear, and the glass was
Speaker 3: all tinted. Wasn't none of it clear? It was Craiger down.
Speaker 3: Those are the rims. Was Craiger down with a cold
Speaker 3: ass pearl deepest diamond tuck in the goddamn world. I
Speaker 3: had quadraphonic headphones with the tone you could fix under
Speaker 3: the seat. I had a thirty yard six. Now on
Speaker 3: the way to the party, I was scraping and hopping
Speaker 3: because I knew by the end of the night there
Speaker 3: was gonna be some popping.
Speaker 1: When I got to the set, I let it lay.
Speaker 2: On the ground.
Speaker 3: The budas came to check it out from Chinatown. Now,
Speaker 3: when I fell in the party, it was niggas for days.
Speaker 3: I was looking crazy, some hellified ways. I just walked
Speaker 3: in the corner and listened as they talk. First James
Speaker 3: Brown record, I jumped up from crip walk. Now I
Speaker 3: was walking so hard. Niggas couldn't compete.
Speaker 1: I to turn out the.
Speaker 3: Party with my goddamn feet, but norridy. Then some niggas
Speaker 3: went and got out of line. His nose, my fists
Speaker 3: had no trouble to find. After driving the iron so
Speaker 3: hard all that day. I drove his grilling in one
Speaker 3: hell of a way, but his partners fell out. Sodid
Speaker 3: mine squabron went on for quite a long time, but
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden I heard some popping. I
Speaker 3: knew not too soon this fire would be stopping. I
Speaker 3: seen twenty two thirty eighths and a forty five. I
Speaker 3: knew not too much would be left alive. The niggas
Speaker 3: broke out, and a god damn raig because I didn't
Speaker 3: think I seen the sawed off gauge, because I was
Speaker 3: sent from.
Speaker 1: Hell not heaven.
Speaker 3: I broke out with the chrome played at three fifty seven,
Speaker 3: and the name of the game is simply survival. At
Speaker 3: the end of the night, ten was dead on arrival,
Speaker 3: and me and my partners, we was gone like the winds.
Speaker 3: Police blamed it on the crips of the brims, but
Speaker 3: some niggas knew in the corner and the dark, them
Speaker 3: crazy niggas reside and try and go park. They go
Speaker 3: by the name of Burnett, zelln Trey, and they belonged
Speaker 3: to the association called the EPA that was called the
Speaker 3: Eliminator's Pimping Association.
Speaker 1: That was one of my little cruise back in the deaths.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: For the record, this is free hip hop, damn. This
Speaker 3: is nineteen seventy say five.
Speaker 1: In high school.
Speaker 3: Saying these rhymes to the gang bangers to entertain them,
Speaker 3: so I totain them. I can insert your gang name,
Speaker 3: I can insert your shit into the set.
Speaker 1: This is how I kept them savage niggas.
Speaker 2: Off my pumper.
Speaker 1: Your nigga said, say my name, cook put my name
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 3: So this is it. So when hip hop came, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I could do that, but I just had to learn
Speaker 3: how to syncopate it on the be. Some people still
Speaker 3: don't them. I think I can syncopate it on the bee,
Speaker 3: but that's another story. But that was my attempt to
Speaker 3: learn how to do it. So that was gangster rap, right.
Speaker 3: That's so if you count that, then maybe I am
Speaker 3: the first. It wasn't recorded, so I'm in the I'm
Speaker 3: in the club called two one three No three.
Speaker 1: It was in Santa Monica.
Speaker 2: And I hear this.
Speaker 1: PSK making that green. People always say, what the hell
Speaker 1: does that mean? Peace for the people who can't.
Speaker 3: Understand, And the music sounded I don't never get high,
Speaker 3: but it sounded like angel dust.
Speaker 2: I can hear that.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I can hear the PSK.
Speaker 2: All that reverb was like.
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, it's pimp niggas BSk, you know,
Speaker 3: And then that then he said, I went to the DJ.
Speaker 1: I put my.
Speaker 3: Pistol up against his head, said suck ass nigga, I
Speaker 3: should shoot you dead, And I was like, who is this?
Speaker 1: So I do the research. They say it's school.
Speaker 2: He d we have to go to the library.
Speaker 1: I had Google. I had to check with my DJ
Speaker 1: good but that record fucked me up.
Speaker 3: That night.
Speaker 1: I was in the up chilling doing my thing, but
Speaker 1: that record, I was like, who is that? So we
Speaker 1: found out schoolly D.
Speaker 3: We did the research, said Philly like cool and they
Speaker 3: like PSK stands for park side killers. I'm like, he's
Speaker 3: rapping a sets ask PSK stands for park side killers,
Speaker 3: A gang never been done before. No hip hop was
Speaker 3: throw your hands in the air with peace love and
Speaker 3: you know this nigga's rapping about a gang.
Speaker 1: So I was like that was a green light, like oh,
Speaker 1: all these other rhymes.
Speaker 3: I got over here because I was like, you can't
Speaker 3: do it like you gotta remember hip hop was like disco.
Speaker 3: It was a marginalized early spikes. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 3: being like rock star. So I'm like, but then I
Speaker 3: but then I heard this and it was such a
Speaker 3: dope record. Then then he had smoked some killed and
Speaker 3: he was cursing in it, like let's go, So we
Speaker 3: take the eight away.
Speaker 1: We make the beat.
Speaker 3: Uh, six in the morning was made six in the morning,
Speaker 3: but Pepe game, Pepe game, six in the morning was
Speaker 3: made kind of like to resemble a Beastie Boys beat.
Speaker 3: BC Boys had a record came holding out hit it well,
Speaker 3: I chill, will well, I got then it would stop
Speaker 3: holding out boom, and then it would start boom. So
Speaker 3: six in the morning stopped and started, and then then
Speaker 3: and then boom boom. That was the Beastie Boys stopped.
Speaker 3: I wanted to make the record stop and start right
Speaker 3: so that I take I take that.
Speaker 2: You got you.
Speaker 1: DJ's understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Right, because right because that was if you listen to
Speaker 3: holding out hit it, the record stopped holding that Wait
Speaker 3: a minute, right, we'll have to bo it starts again.
Speaker 2: The break.
Speaker 3: It's just separate. So do our break with dn damn damn.
Speaker 3: So now schooly d PSK was making that green. People
Speaker 3: always say, what the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1: Six in the morning? Police at my.
Speaker 3: Door, fresh shaded this squeaker. Let me take you another woeman,
Speaker 3: take you one more step. The boys in the hood
Speaker 3: are always started talking that trash same ship, all three
Speaker 3: the same k and same was followings. Dra will tell
Speaker 3: you that Boys in the Hood is six in the
Speaker 3: morning Part two.
Speaker 2: Wow, I was today years old.
Speaker 3: But see when I tell you when I when I
Speaker 3: when I say it, it makes sense, makes total sense.
Speaker 3: So Schooly d inspired six in the morning. But what
Speaker 3: I did was six in the morning. I put the
Speaker 3: guns and the drugs and all the other ship because
Speaker 3: schooly was vain right, you know. Yeah, people always say
Speaker 3: what peace for, the People can't understand how one by one,
Speaker 3: home one homeboy became a man. As for the way
Speaker 3: you scream and shall one by one, I'm knocking you out.
Speaker 3: That was basically it. I was six in the morning.
Speaker 3: Police at my door. You know, they found an oozy
Speaker 3: and a hand canade and we beat the bitch down
Speaker 3: at the guy.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like I took the fentanyl on it.
Speaker 1: I added it.
Speaker 3: I took ANDID but yeah, it was on steroids. But
Speaker 3: then what happened is Schoolly, here's it, and gave me
Speaker 3: the He's like, yo, nigga, that's once, he said. Once
Speaker 3: I heard the he said, that's it's hard. So me
Speaker 3: and school he always were friends. It never turned into nothing.
Speaker 3: And then when Q came out with boys in the hood.
Speaker 1: I got it. It was just homaged one to the next.
Speaker 3: School D now Schoolly D's in Philly. Schooly D started.
Speaker 3: He started making no, no, no, that's that steady be
Speaker 3: Oh my bad. I'm here to get you right, I'm
Speaker 3: my hip hop cars. Yeah, yeah WOOI has been doing soundtracks.
Speaker 3: He actually brought up King of New York. He did
Speaker 3: the soundtrack for King of New York.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so school he's my dude, but yeah, school he
Speaker 3: has old school style of rhyme and you know the
Speaker 3: way it is that that SCHOOLI but he was always
Speaker 3: dirty way.
Speaker 1: So did you pick school e D or Coolie Rap?
Speaker 3: We forgot I think I said both because come on,
Speaker 3: it's a demo, like, yo, what the fuck? DJ polo like,
Speaker 3: I think really like when we say rock, him was
Speaker 3: the flower, but.
Speaker 1: Cougie was the was. It was introduction a complex rhyme style.
Speaker 3: Complex Tela Rock really was to me the first introduction
Speaker 3: of the complex rhyme style. But then Coogie Raps sped
Speaker 3: it up. Yeah, he took it into the future. I
Speaker 3: didn't record with cool g Rap two for DJ k
Speaker 3: slagh rest in Peace, one of his.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been very fortunate to meet all my
Speaker 3: idols and have them have a mutual respect. The first
Speaker 3: thing is you meet your idol and they look at you,
Speaker 3: they don't like you.
Speaker 1: You a sucker. Oh you don't like them when you
Speaker 1: meet it.
Speaker 3: I've had that happen weird ship, you know, I'm into it.
Speaker 3: I had somebody that I dis and I met and
Speaker 3: they was the nicest person in the world.
Speaker 1: I learned my lesson. I stopped that. You don't want
Speaker 1: to say that first thing. I think it was. I
Speaker 1: think it was mc shy d, remember Shidy, Yeah, well yo.
Speaker 2: Shakey Atlanta, Miami.
Speaker 1: I think yes.
Speaker 3: And I don't know why. I don't even know why.
Speaker 3: I wasn't a fan or what I meant. And he's like,
Speaker 3: your wife's see you. My idol was like, yo, I'm
Speaker 3: an asshole. I'm an ass out here in Miami. He was,
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking asshole. This is the nicest dude in
Speaker 3: the motherfucking world. I don't even know why. And you know,
Speaker 3: at that point, I like I told you last night, man.
Speaker 3: Music is religion is like ice cream. That's what it's
Speaker 3: thirty one flavors. Whatever you like.
Speaker 1: That's what you like. I've learned that over time it's
Speaker 1: not for me to pick out your.
Speaker 3: Preference in what you like. You like it for a
Speaker 3: certain reason, you know what I'm saying. Eminem to me
Speaker 3: is one of the most incredible rappers. Eminem right, Okay,
Speaker 3: Eminem says his first record he ever heard was Reckless.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Eminem raps at a certain frequency. If you can't dial
Speaker 3: into that frequency, you can't listen to Eminem forever. Because
Speaker 3: Eminem raps at a certain frequency, I tune into a
Speaker 3: lower voice. Does that mean I dislike Eminem? No, I
Speaker 3: cannot wrap at his level. But for me listening, I'd
Speaker 3: rather hear big Daddy King. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's just where my energy level is as a player
Speaker 3: now and an older player too.
Speaker 1: I ride around more chill mc Wren or Spice one,
Speaker 1: both both because they both legends.
Speaker 2: Wren is.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, shots.
Speaker 3: Ren was always to meet the more serious, believable, dangerous
Speaker 3: person in NWA because Ren was I remember Ren was
Speaker 3: Easy's boy. So Ren was really Reren's birthday was yesterday, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so Ren was really about it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Spice One was just a fucking His style was incredible
Speaker 3: and you know Stipe Spice one is still a beast.
Speaker 3: I was once again. I love all West Coast because
Speaker 3: all the bay, everybody.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: See, when I started, I couldn't come out crippled blood.
Speaker 3: I got to come out West Coast, you know, West Coast.
Speaker 3: So everybody from two short, all the people up and
Speaker 3: down the bay, it was all help to me.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 2: Let me, let me added a different one, King t
Speaker 2: or mc Breed.
Speaker 1: Both both Uh ain't no ain't no future in the
Speaker 1: fun funding.
Speaker 3: I went to Flint, Michigan when Breed was alive, nicest
Speaker 3: guy in the world.
Speaker 1: Was there water good back then?
Speaker 3: Yep, I lost my love. I lost my leather coat.
Speaker 3: That's my only bad thing. You know how you do
Speaker 3: it a show and you throw your leather coat. Niggas
Speaker 3: sol the ship. I went back to the show. Where
Speaker 3: is it that you didn't get it?
Speaker 1: You didn't get it them niggas.
Speaker 3: But uh, if you listen to a lot of any
Speaker 3: Like everybody knows Breed's number one records, But if you
Speaker 3: listen to any of his records, he's dope. Is dope,
Speaker 3: Breed is dope. He up, He's wrapping his ass and
Speaker 3: Now King T is a whole another.
Speaker 1: You know. To me, King T was West Coast Biggie. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The King T flow is so similar to Biggie's flow.
Speaker 3: And I have a picture of him and Biggie together.
Speaker 3: Wow wow Yeah. So you know, well, it's Tila man,
Speaker 3: that's my guy. Man, that's my guy. King T has
Speaker 3: what's called the drunk technique. You gotta get King T
Speaker 3: on the no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, alcohol is if anything, So for him.
Speaker 3: To browse, he has to hit the right level of drunkness.
Speaker 3: If he gets too high, can't do it. If he
Speaker 3: gets not high enough to flow, don't happen when he
Speaker 3: hits that. The drunk technique was one.
Speaker 1: Of his records.
Speaker 3: It's yodd. I mean, so the Kong Fu technique, the
Speaker 3: drunken Monkey pretty much pretty much.
Speaker 1: But Tila is. No one raps like King T. Nobody,
Speaker 1: And to me, honestly, that's my thing. In hip hop.
Speaker 3: It's like originality is number one. But there's no component
Speaker 3: or jega, there's no nads, there's no so you name
Speaker 3: it off people that just no, they're not replicas. But
Speaker 3: you know, I've had people show my house fucking like
Speaker 3: DHL men Ryan and they sound just like DMX. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you sound like DMX. Like how many rappers are come
Speaker 3: to me with demos that sound like Park.
Speaker 2: I'm like, and tell you they sound like it too,
Speaker 2: which is even.
Speaker 1: Didn't count, motherfucker they say such and such. Ever last,
Speaker 1: when I first met him, he sounded like rock him.
Speaker 3: And he was really yeah, yeah he was in. He
Speaker 3: sounded like when long when we have the long hair?
Speaker 3: And I said, you dope, but you need to rap
Speaker 3: in your own voice. A lot of rappers don't like
Speaker 3: the sound of their own voice, so to emulate other
Speaker 3: other rappers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the next.
Speaker 3: Drink chance is dope. Are we getting into stuff? She
Speaker 3: is opening, I'm opening up some good ship.
Speaker 1: Hip hop.
Speaker 2: We're going We're going to strip club Booby Trapper, Magic City.
Speaker 3: I've never been to the only strip club in Miami
Speaker 3: I think I ever been. Was Do y'all ever have
Speaker 3: one called Diamonds and Rolex and Rolex Rolex back with Luke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a quick story for you. He was
Speaker 2: I don't know, did Luke dude? Was there a players
Speaker 2: ball in Miami? But he had a party so so
Speaker 2: so Luke's remember the club Luke's Club, Yes, I was,
Speaker 2: I was d Jane right, and Trick Daddy was there.
Speaker 2: I remember that part. But I remember you coming up
Speaker 2: to me. I'm DJing. I got a picture of this,
Speaker 2: and you said, I want a rhyme. Play Shook One's
Speaker 2: part two okay, And I played it and I'm deep
Speaker 2: and yeah, and I got the picture of it.
Speaker 1: Picture looks queerd, but we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna put the picture in the episode. But it was,
Speaker 2: it was, It was memorable.
Speaker 1: I think that was the night I first ran into Pound.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you it was. I never seen right, am
Speaker 2: I right, guarantee it was.
Speaker 3: I ran the Pound and I'd never seen so much jewelry.
Speaker 3: I was like, who the fuck you? Yoo?
Speaker 2: Pound?
Speaker 3: What we fucks with That's all I care is. The
Speaker 3: second word is we fuck with you?
Speaker 2: And I'm good and Pound some real dudes, good dudes. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I met them that night. They was They
Speaker 3: was like, we fuck with you. I'm like, so then
Speaker 3: I'm good. Good shout out to Pound, Pound.
Speaker 2: All right. Law and Order organized crime or law and Order.
Speaker 1: S v U them all s VU.
Speaker 3: It's a different different okay, the law and Order, the
Speaker 3: original law and Order. I give a little love the
Speaker 3: original Law and Order, because without them we would have
Speaker 3: never been on Lawn Order. Organized Crime is Chris Maloney's
Speaker 3: show spin off.
Speaker 1: But I got to fuck with my team. I had
Speaker 1: to keep my motherfucking boat floating. You feel me s
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: Mariska hargeta most incredible woman to work with. I've been
Speaker 3: very fortunate to have a sweet you know. Marishka was
Speaker 3: Jane Mansfield's daughter. She comes from you know, royalty, right,
Speaker 3: and I love working with her. And it's been a very,
Speaker 3: very fun job. People say, well, how do you do
Speaker 3: the job so long? Because I go to work every
Speaker 3: day and everybody respects everybody and we all know we
Speaker 3: all players on the team. So yeah, it's for you
Speaker 3: season twenty five till season thirty to see till I
Speaker 3: check out at this bitch, you.
Speaker 6: Just do.
Speaker 1: You look? End it out? Got one?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: Look look at Look at y'all? Why is this glass
Speaker 3: not going down? Because that girl right there?
Speaker 2: Shut out Jamie r Bartender.
Speaker 1: Amy keep sliding in and I'm not Jamie.
Speaker 3: Don't fill this up no more because I have no
Speaker 3: reference point to how much I'm shrinking Chee the non
Speaker 3: alcoholic Nigga drink Champs got.
Speaker 2: Me Open right OG or Home Invasion og.
Speaker 3: OG because OG, like I said, it was a result
Speaker 3: of NWA coming out and ME coming hard as I
Speaker 3: could at the time with the attempt to do a
Speaker 3: double album, but Warner Brothers didn't want to put out
Speaker 3: a double album because wax It went out and they
Speaker 3: couldn't put more than seventy something minutes on a CD.
Speaker 3: So that and then Home Invasion was me in turmoil.
Speaker 3: Home Invasion was after cop Killer. That's when I went
Speaker 3: over the priority and I was kind of like flustered.
Speaker 3: So it was an angry album. I don't like making angry.
Speaker 3: I don't like making impulsive music.
Speaker 1: I like to make reactive right. Yeah you might, but
Speaker 1: it was good.
Speaker 3: The first record on Home Invasion is the best rum
Speaker 3: it's on when I'm mad at the Source. Source Magazine,
Speaker 3: you're the first one, you know, Fuck Source Magazine.
Speaker 1: How do you know you pick? You picked Chuck Cuban me,
Speaker 1: how the fuck you pick us? Three?
Speaker 3: They dissed us three? Yeah, I said, you punk motherfucker
Speaker 3: think ship. You're just a bunch of whores making money. No,
Speaker 3: I said, Source, you punk motherfucker think ship, You're just
Speaker 3: a bunch of hoes making money off the pros, and
Speaker 3: when I see it'll get you in your site.
Speaker 1: In my sights, I'll give you ask a story to write.
Speaker 2: Magazine in that one. Being an actor, being a musician,
Speaker 2: whoever you want to take, just being an MC.
Speaker 1: Both both, I'll explain, okay, please.
Speaker 3: Being a musician is beautiful because I control everything I
Speaker 3: go in the studio. I get to pick the beat
Speaker 3: or make the beat. I write the lyrics, I create
Speaker 3: the entire picture. Acting you're just doing what you say.
Speaker 3: I have to act until you're happy. I have to
Speaker 3: fill your image. If you're the director effort and he's
Speaker 3: say no, now you are more mad than that, I
Speaker 3: get mad.
Speaker 1: You know, no, split the difference, so I'm working off
Speaker 1: of you. So it's different.
Speaker 3: The only way acting would be like music, but I
Speaker 3: wrote it, directed it, and produced it. But usually as
Speaker 3: an actor, you're falling into somebody else's vision. But that
Speaker 3: being said, both of them are dream jobs. Both of
Speaker 3: them jobs you don't ever retire from ever. I cannot.
Speaker 3: I can stop making records forever. If I go to
Speaker 3: a Norri show and he calls me up on the state,
Speaker 3: I got bars. And also like rock Kim said, I
Speaker 3: came in the door, said it before. I never let
Speaker 3: the mic magnetize me no more. Well, even when I'm
Speaker 3: at other people's show, I'm like thinking in my head
Speaker 3: some bars just in case I get called off because
Speaker 3: you're black out, You'll be on somebody. You know, fujis
Speaker 3: pull you up. You're like, oh shit, so you know
Speaker 3: you you know, sometimes even if I'm going to people's show,
Speaker 3: I might say I might practice some shit just on
Speaker 3: the way there, just because.
Speaker 1: I don't wrap off the head.
Speaker 3: I'm a writer, so I got to figure out which
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull up at that moment. You know. But uh,
Speaker 3: and acting, who retires from acting? Those are dream jobs.
Speaker 3: Those are those people dream to do that ship.
Speaker 1: So for the rest of your life and making music
Speaker 1: could be bad, your needs be bad.
Speaker 3: In the movie, in the show, I mean, Morgan Freeman
Speaker 3: is still getting the bad.
Speaker 2: You get ahead of the bag, you know.
Speaker 3: So it's entertainment is something that's beautiful and if you
Speaker 3: are fortunate enough to be able to make a career
Speaker 3: doing it, first off, you're living a miracle.
Speaker 2: The mirror of percentages are very loaded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have counleises right, what like, like, hey man,
Speaker 1: I got fucked up hands from the jewelry stealing jewelry
Speaker 1: back in the day. I got ready for that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but I uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both dream jobs. And I think as long
Speaker 3: as you know it and you're aware of it, you'll
Speaker 3: continue to be blessed. I'm very, very fucking fortunate, you know,
Speaker 3: to be still in the game. Like I said, when
Speaker 3: Law and Orders, I'm just gonna go read for all
Speaker 3: Samuel Jackson's part. You know, I can say motherfuckers just
Speaker 3: like him. You know what I'm saying. So I'll read
Speaker 3: for all Samuel's parts. Maybe I'll get a couple.
Speaker 2: And trying to get in Marshall's You've been doing crazy.
Speaker 2: Marshall's is good.
Speaker 3: I fucking uh was watching Shaq one day. Shaq said
Speaker 3: he never spent any money out of the NBA.
Speaker 6: It was like.
Speaker 1: And I saw that.
Speaker 3: I was like we So I called my manager. I said,
Speaker 3: I need some I need some like advertising gigs. They
Speaker 3: won't fuck with you, top killer, you bad this, I said,
Speaker 3: give me. I need to advertising agent. So we got somebody.
Speaker 3: The first one I got was the Lemonade read the sign,
Speaker 3: so I do that and they waiting on the blowback.
Speaker 3: They waiting on something and no one said anything, And
Speaker 3: next thing you know, I just start getting the fun
Speaker 3: I got one coming out. Of course, I got car shield.
Speaker 3: Car shield is a car shill is a gig. So
Speaker 3: what happens is you go out, you do the ship.
Speaker 3: They like it, and they sign you on for years.
Speaker 2: It's like getting the show. So you do a year deal,
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 3: Deal that lets you run the commercials all year. At
Speaker 3: the end of that year they got to read up
Speaker 3: and me, I just didn't want you see them what
Speaker 3: I did with Iverson and Rick Flair yep, yep. And
Speaker 3: the bag is the bag is substantial. The people that
Speaker 3: have that.
Speaker 5: Do promotion like Cheerios. Yeah, those ad agencies have they
Speaker 5: flush with cash.
Speaker 1: Cheerios Nigga, How the fuck I get on a Cheerios box?
Speaker 1: Just said, I don't know neither.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you how. I'll tell you how. Even though
Speaker 3: we off topic. The Guardian, the gates have changed. The
Speaker 3: gate the gatekeepers, yep. The people that used to be
Speaker 3: in charge are gone.
Speaker 1: They grew up. The new people that are in charge
Speaker 1: are are fans.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: How the fuck did Snoop and them get at the
Speaker 3: super Bowl because the person that's making the call is
Speaker 3: forty eight years old. They grew up with us. The
Speaker 3: old motherfuckers are gone. The people that I love Ice
Speaker 3: fuck that he put them on Cheerios boss. He's thirty
Speaker 3: seven years old, ceo, billionaire. So now right now, that's.
Speaker 1: Why Snoop is doing so. Snoop just in Taco Bell Corona.
Speaker 5: But the people during Corona, though, Let's just be clear,
Speaker 5: during Corona that made me say, look, he this Corona.
Speaker 1: I don't even know, but Corona, everybody was moving away.
Speaker 2: From that beer.
Speaker 1: He's like, wait a minute, it's the cat that's like.
Speaker 3: Fiftieth anniversary of hip hop. Hip hop has gray hair. Yes,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm clearly.
Speaker 1: So. The people that are in charge are grown.
Speaker 3: So the theory that you're gonna walk into anything, I
Speaker 3: don't care whatever it is, and you're gonna run into
Speaker 3: somebody doesn't like you.
Speaker 1: Fuck that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk in meet the CEO and he's gonna
Speaker 3: be Ice. I went to college with you, I grew
Speaker 3: up with you. Man, Let's get some money, you know,
Speaker 3: I remember I remember Ozzy Osbourne bit the head off
Speaker 3: the bat. Right now, we could put out a bat cereal.
Speaker 3: Why was he on the cover and it would self,
Speaker 3: parents would get it, the kids would have no idea
Speaker 3: and it would sell. Because the guards have changed. You
Speaker 3: wouldn't be on the radio if the guard I mean
Speaker 3: on podcast, if it wasn't the guards have changed. He's
Speaker 3: in our guard right, how about that?
Speaker 2: But what you said is important is still being in
Speaker 2: this space is a percentage thing. And everybody's lucky that
Speaker 2: can actually survive in the space.
Speaker 3: Yes, if you can survive in the space. But the
Speaker 3: new people are our people. They grew up on us.
Speaker 3: So the fear of ice tea is no longer there.
Speaker 3: The fear of cop killers. Know, I was there when
Speaker 3: that happened.
Speaker 1: We love you.
Speaker 3: Fuck that, you know, let's get some money. When I
Speaker 3: saw Snoop with Leiah Coca back in the day, I'm
Speaker 3: like yo. Then with Barbara Waltz, mart mother Stewart, that
Speaker 3: was it selling lighters like Martha Stewart should be an
Speaker 3: honorary honorary member of g unit.
Speaker 1: Because she did her time. She held her water.
Speaker 2: We should have she's able to drink cham. She held
Speaker 2: the water. She got caught.
Speaker 1: She said all right, He.
Speaker 5: Said she should be honorary member of g UNIT. I
Speaker 5: respect that she didn't. Yes, I mean I respect her
Speaker 5: gangst It.
Speaker 1: She did a ship.
Speaker 3: She's back doing her things. She fucks with Snoop. She's
Speaker 3: obviously a real woman.
Speaker 2: That's real ship.
Speaker 1: You wonder that we're.
Speaker 2: Almost done with quick times, not so quick time with slime.
Speaker 1: We having fun with it. We elaborate fact.
Speaker 3: We're gonna show you how quick time should be done.
Speaker 3: Just answered the mother question, elaborate.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna make this a three way quicker.
Speaker 3: I would elaborate on that for us. Second, I just
Speaker 3: heard that pimp and you just put down. But could
Speaker 3: you elaborate on that?
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a three way question. New York,
Speaker 2: Miami or l A.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean all all, all of above.
Speaker 2: I was still drinking.
Speaker 1: I love I took a shot for that. I love Miami.
Speaker 1: I start with Miami. Okay.
Speaker 3: First place I became in the United States, they had
Speaker 3: blue water, you know New York.
Speaker 1: That shit's crazy. Yeah, come on, It's like, it's like,
Speaker 1: let's speak on this. It's like it's like seaweed and ship.
Speaker 2: I came down here.
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm in the Caribbean.
Speaker 3: You know. I used to live in Sonnyiles. I had
Speaker 3: a patent Sonny ailes and go out as beach. It's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Miami's going through transitions.
Speaker 1: You know. I've been coming out here for years, so
Speaker 1: it's different.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I came out here one time on Memorial Day.
Speaker 3: I never seen so many white T shirts and tims
Speaker 3: and my motherfucker around.
Speaker 2: How can I be down?
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, let me take my bad mass
Speaker 1: back up. The North plays like. I was like, it
Speaker 1: was yo, what nigga was yo? Yo? I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: they got wilder on the times, so I was like cool.
Speaker 3: But I love Miami. It's beautiful, it's fun. The people
Speaker 3: are here. You just got to know where to hang
Speaker 3: and what to do. I mean, we're playing on going
Speaker 3: down to Miami Beach tonight. We're staying up here. We're
Speaker 3: going down to Miami Beach tonight with the wives, have
Speaker 3: some dinner, enjoy it. It's a beautiful place. New York
Speaker 3: I learned to love New York. I came to New York.
Speaker 3: I'm like, first, when I got to New York, I
Speaker 3: was shook because I came in the winter and everybody
Speaker 3: had coats niggas looked big. I thought niggas was looking
Speaker 3: at me. I'm like, niggas is looking at me, Like, no,
Speaker 3: they ain't looking at you. Niggas in New York got
Speaker 3: shipped to.
Speaker 1: Do, they got shit to do. They ain't not thinking
Speaker 1: of about you.
Speaker 3: So I like, I like, you know, New York is
Speaker 3: different because y'all don't really have the gang, so to speak.
Speaker 3: But Bronx niggas don't fuck with Brooklyn. Niggas don't fuck
Speaker 3: you know. It's different. But I'm from I'm in Manhattan,
Speaker 3: so you know. I hooked up with Smooth, a hustler
Speaker 3: trigger to gambler uh Brooklyn, and then of course I'm
Speaker 3: hooked in with the Zulu cats. I used to roll
Speaker 3: with Vo and all the Sugar Ray and all them
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 1: I love New York City. I don't think there's another
Speaker 1: city in the world like New York City. No, damn
Speaker 1: New York is. A New York is like a Rubik's cube.
Speaker 3: No matter how long you lived in New York, you
Speaker 3: can't tell a nigga what's on twenty sixth Streets. And
Speaker 3: if you do, and if you lived on twenty sixth Street,
Speaker 3: you can't tell them what's on twenty seventh And if
Speaker 3: you know what's on twenty seventh, you don't know what's
Speaker 3: on the thirty fourth floor and in the back. So
Speaker 3: you go the building in New York. Downstairs it's a
Speaker 3: regular store. Next door is somebody Sweet, next door is
Speaker 3: the next floor is a sweatshop.
Speaker 1: Next floor is some S and M shit. Next floor is.
Speaker 3: Somebody got this badass, you know, loft hook. Next floor
Speaker 3: is abandoned. It's like New York. And then then it
Speaker 3: does this once you think you know what, it shifts
Speaker 3: like that hell razor ball. New York's a deep motherfucker.
Speaker 3: You can never penetrate the depth of New York City,
Speaker 3: right And then La. I love La, but LA is
Speaker 3: violent and LA is a very very fucked up place
Speaker 3: outside of the nice areas. You know, when you go
Speaker 3: to Beverly Hills, a lot of people come to LA
Speaker 3: and they go, oh, yeah, I was in La.
Speaker 1: I'm like nigga, you was on Sunset.
Speaker 3: La is forty to fifty square miles of niggas and
Speaker 3: Mexicans surrounding it, and we that we have gangs, and
Speaker 3: the gangs are extremely dangerous and growing up there, just
Speaker 3: going from block to block is dangerous. I don't really
Speaker 3: fuck around in LA, like I survived LA, but I
Speaker 3: don't go.
Speaker 1: Back and hang out like you go back to the block.
Speaker 3: Now you go back to prison. You went to prison,
Speaker 3: you go back visit nigga yah nah Non, I don't
Speaker 3: because I made it. And you're safe when you got
Speaker 3: your boots on the ground. I don't care what neighborhood
Speaker 3: you're from. You're safe when you got your boots on
Speaker 3: the ground and you know everything that's happening, everything's moving.
Speaker 3: But once you leave and you come back, you're not
Speaker 3: tied in like that. You're not tied in like that.
Speaker 3: And I had a story going back to LA. I
Speaker 3: went to Crenshaw, but I hung in the forties before
Speaker 3: the forties had a gag and they want to go
Speaker 3: shoot an album cover of magazine cover.
Speaker 1: So I back to forty second. I'm there.
Speaker 3: I'm in the corner right by a liquor store, and
Speaker 3: they got the white people shooting the video and little
Speaker 3: niggas from the forties. Now, Crip said, it's being very
Speaker 3: disrespectful folk. Are these white people coming up in the hood.
Speaker 3: D I'm ice tea. Niggas would not back down. Man,
Speaker 3: fuck that ice.
Speaker 2: You ain't woo.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, so I called down the street. I
Speaker 3: call my boy Shiny Mack who lived on the street.
Speaker 1: Yo, mac man. These little niggas over here is being disrespectful. Nigga.
Speaker 3: I'm in Colorado, nigga, my age, I'm out. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: call little called Big Timmy. Who's Big Timmy? Big Timmy?
Speaker 3: My boy Leonnon Jackson's Timmy Fly. That's Lennon Jackson's son.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm little, uh brother, you mean Timmy?
Speaker 1: I used to carry it like this.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's Big Timmy. Now that's Timmy Fly. I
Speaker 3: call him, Yo, Timmy. I'm around the corner from your
Speaker 3: mother's house.
Speaker 1: Oh what up?
Speaker 3: Unto your little forty niggas be in disrespectful Hold up,
Speaker 3: He hits the corner, jumps out, smacking niggas.
Speaker 1: Nigga. That's my uncle Couz nigga trying to die. But
Speaker 1: I'll clears it out. We shoot. What did I learned?
Speaker 3: It's not my rep it's the nigga that's putting a
Speaker 3: foot in the ass on a daily basis that they
Speaker 3: scared of. They don't know the shit about me, So therefore,
Speaker 3: in the hood. My card is invalid to these little niggas.
Speaker 3: They don't give a fuck. I'm an old nigga, so
Speaker 3: fuck I'm like, I'm not hanging out. I can't hang
Speaker 3: out no more. I'm not supposed to be there. And
Speaker 3: always say Also, if I he gets shot or if
Speaker 3: I die, I supposed to die someplace I should be.
Speaker 3: I should slip and falling Gucci's or some shit nigga
Speaker 3: can't nigga was in the hood. I don't want the
Speaker 3: niggas to be in my funeral. Like dumb motherfucker. What
Speaker 3: was that nigga doing over there? Why was Nori back
Speaker 3: or what you know, Nori flipped the speedy boat, you know,
Speaker 3: like you know that's how it shit happens. I can't
Speaker 3: get caught, but yeah, some pimpsit, you know fly you
Speaker 3: know in this pop private jet trip.
Speaker 1: Look at not But it can't be niggas in the funeral,
Speaker 1: Like dumb ass. Why was nice even hanging out with
Speaker 1: these niggas?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: Like so I always think about that, like I can't
Speaker 3: be in the caught in the wrong place. So l
Speaker 3: a man, my heart bleeds for La. But LA is
Speaker 3: is a dangerous place with whether you're from there or
Speaker 3: you're not. People like, oh you think you got I
Speaker 3: don't have no pass. I got to pass maybe in
Speaker 3: my little neighborhood. I go over there, I'm out of bounds.
Speaker 3: You know what's the kid PMB manchesting like nigga. I
Speaker 3: don't even go there. I'm from La them is Swan's
Speaker 3: over there. Every area got a gang. I don't know
Speaker 3: them niggas, God bless them. But man, stay in bounds.
Speaker 3: If you go to l A, stay above Wiltshire, go
Speaker 3: go into you know, West Hollywood and all the night,
Speaker 3: don't whow It's like, why would I come to New
Speaker 3: York and like take me to the grimiest area?
Speaker 1: Kind of sens does that make? You said you used
Speaker 1: to like to do that. I used to do that.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, you know, it's crazy. When I first got out,
Speaker 5: That's what I thought. Was it, like, you know, we
Speaker 5: will go to a certain place and we will say, Yo,
Speaker 5: where's the hood. So we didn't want the weed man
Speaker 5: to come to us like how we do now. We
Speaker 5: wanted to go to the weed man.
Speaker 1: So we would go. We would do that and we
Speaker 1: would enjoy it.
Speaker 5: And it was the matter that I'm a fucking forty
Speaker 5: five year old girl man with kids. I realized that
Speaker 5: was the dumbest shit I probably ever did. Like, like
Speaker 5: I was already I'm there to do a show, I'm
Speaker 5: there for business, and I'm requested to go to the
Speaker 5: worst area that's in that city to buy bud.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what, that's kind of how I
Speaker 3: met you. So it's kind of it's kind of like
Speaker 3: good and bad, you know what I'm saying. Like, but
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is like that sound of play is crazy, now,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it's dangerous.
Speaker 1: Well, let me go to the next question before we
Speaker 1: go to the last, quick time, let me say something
Speaker 1: about that real quick.
Speaker 3: When we used to travel from sea from city to city,
Speaker 3: I was I had a mentality of taking me to
Speaker 3: your leader. So like when we go to a city,
Speaker 3: I would be like, you know, when I would meet people,
Speaker 3: I'm like, who the niggas around here?
Speaker 1: And I would bring them to my show.
Speaker 3: I would show them love, I'd give them passes and
Speaker 3: ship and that was how I would always stay secure.
Speaker 1: Instead of acting like we can go to the actual
Speaker 1: not not going in your hood. Fuck that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'll invite them to the hotel, but get
Speaker 3: them some you know, laminates, things of that nature.
Speaker 1: And then I was good.
Speaker 3: I always said, you know, we're here in your town
Speaker 3: because all gangsters want is respect.
Speaker 1: That's all they want. You show them that. Hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm paying amens, your wife, you fucking fans. Okay, yo, we.
Speaker 3: Hear we in your town. Let us show us how
Speaker 3: you move. But like you say, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: the club after with you guys. That ain't gonna happen. No,
Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm chilling the hotel. You don't need to
Speaker 3: push your stripes. You don't need to push how the
Speaker 3: streets you are. You know, I always say, if you
Speaker 3: challenge your street, the streets will catch your fade. They'll
Speaker 3: take your fathe ice think you can't get god, somebody
Speaker 3: will catch that fade. So I don't want no beef.
Speaker 3: I don't want no beef neither.
Speaker 5: But on that note, hold on, I got to ask
Speaker 5: you this because this is on the list. This is
Speaker 5: my producers will make this questions iced tea soldier boy.
Speaker 1: Hey yo, this drinks are really starting to sink here.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna validate that. That's a joke. Question.
Speaker 1: Let's build on that. How did that start? What the
Speaker 1: hell happened? I don't get it. I was in the studio.
Speaker 1: I want Soldier Boy to hear this. Okay, Yes, I
Speaker 1: was in the.
Speaker 3: Studio making a mixtape for some of my homies. I'm
Speaker 3: in the booth. The niggas start fucking with me in
Speaker 3: the booth like they trying to, you know, like a fighter,
Speaker 3: trying to get you to spit. Niggas don't want to
Speaker 3: hear you, nigga. They want that Soldier Boy. They want
Speaker 3: some Hurricane Chris nigga. I'm like, fuck them niggas, and
Speaker 3: that's how it started. I just said I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know who Soldier Boy was. I was like,
Speaker 3: fuck them niggas, and then I just went on my
Speaker 3: old school iced tea nigga heat and bitchy. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, you put a nigga in front of me,
Speaker 3: I'm a devour them. I don't even know who it is,
Speaker 3: so I was talking my shit. I don't know who
Speaker 3: Soldier Boy is. I have nothing against the guy. These
Speaker 3: idiots took that and put it at the front of
Speaker 3: the mixtape. These guys aren't my friends.
Speaker 1: Anymore.
Speaker 2: You feel me?
Speaker 3: You feel me right now? You could we could go
Speaker 3: in the studio. Were chilling right now. I know I'm
Speaker 3: being filmed, so I'm be held accountable for every single
Speaker 3: word I say. But if me and you is chilling
Speaker 3: and I'm talking shit and I look over and Homie
Speaker 3: got the camera, Oh yeah, what's that old nigga's hood TV?
Speaker 3: Niga hood TV nigga? I might segue into a murder
Speaker 3: nigga like Kanti turn that shit off? Right?
Speaker 1: So they took something. It was.
Speaker 3: It was just me talking shit, right, that goes out?
Speaker 3: Soldier boy pops up?
Speaker 1: Fuck? Iiced ta old ass nigga? Is that? And the third?
Speaker 3: But oh la la la. I could have let that die.
Speaker 3: But my son, who was eighteen years old, Dad, you
Speaker 3: gotta replag.
Speaker 2: Y'all feel me?
Speaker 3: My son tells me I got to reply because he's on.
Speaker 2: The same age way. So I'm in Arizona.
Speaker 3: I say some dumb shit and I regret it because
Speaker 3: people looked at it like I just jumped out of
Speaker 3: my bed and went in on the kid. That's not
Speaker 3: how it happened. It was just and even the insults.
Speaker 3: I was not even aiming it at him. I didn't
Speaker 3: really even know. They just Hurricane Chris who is he?
Speaker 3: He's a rapper, right, I was talking about depth. I
Speaker 3: don't know them. Hurricane sold you. I'm not your enemy.
Speaker 3: I don't know you like I don't care like. It
Speaker 3: wasn't that thing, but it got bent out of shape
Speaker 3: and people.
Speaker 1: Like ICEH, well you did say some real shit. I
Speaker 1: regret it because that's not my character. My character ain't
Speaker 1: to go in on niggas like that.
Speaker 2: But you know, I learned.
Speaker 3: I learned my lesson. I ain't talking shit about no
Speaker 3: fucking body, then fuck that because it's counterproductive. It don't
Speaker 3: make you no money. You know, it don't make you
Speaker 3: no money, will make you bigger, They'll make you smarter.
Speaker 3: Dissing people if they're not your flavored.
Speaker 1: It's not my flavor, you know.
Speaker 3: But people will turn something that's not a diss into
Speaker 3: a disc because I say, I like DMX over P
Speaker 3: A dis not.
Speaker 1: A disk preferent.
Speaker 2: They create narratives to monetize.
Speaker 1: Now we're looking at your shirt. You got a shirt
Speaker 1: with every sponsor in the world. This is an F
Speaker 1: one shirt.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to meet Lewis Hamilton back I
Speaker 3: w C. Yeah, well Louis Dries from Mercedes. He used
Speaker 3: to drive from McLaren.
Speaker 1: But I'm a w C. Right, I'm a car guy.
Speaker 1: So you just had the.
Speaker 3: Formula one down here. So I'm friends and he's a
Speaker 3: black kid, and he's you know, world champion three times.
Speaker 5: So yeah, the last last one one. This is the
Speaker 5: last quick time of slanm question. We still got more,
Speaker 5: but QuickTime of slant loyalty or respect?
Speaker 1: Loyalty? Loyalty? Why?
Speaker 3: Because loyalty can save your life. Loyalty is the most
Speaker 3: difficult thing, you know. I say, respects about the hardest
Speaker 3: damn thing on the streets to earn. But respect is
Speaker 3: ego based. It's like, do I care if people respect
Speaker 3: me or this, that and the other. I don't care
Speaker 3: if you respect me, but if you're loyal to me,
Speaker 3: I much more prefer that.
Speaker 1: I prefer loyalty. You know, a nigga can respect you
Speaker 1: and still throw you in under the jail. Wow, you
Speaker 1: know I love you? But yeah, but a loyal motherfucker
Speaker 1: won't turn on you. See.
Speaker 3: The difference is I won't cross you, not because I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get caught, not because.
Speaker 2: I'm a rat.
Speaker 1: It's because I can't. That's loyalty. I just can't do it.
Speaker 1: It's my motherfucking man. I cannot do it.
Speaker 3: So that's why whenever somebody out is pocket, out of pocket,
Speaker 3: talking out of line, saying ship, you gotta understand it.
Speaker 3: That's not loyalty, because if I'm loyal to you, I
Speaker 3: will never utter a word out of my mouth against it.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't. I take a shot
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, FN let me he helped me down.
Speaker 3: He helped me down. I was fucked up. I slep
Speaker 3: on his count.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna correct you. His name's e F.
Speaker 1: That's after.
Speaker 2: DJ e f N about hold on, I want to
Speaker 2: go to the root of body count. Let go where
Speaker 2: does that? Where do you get that? Where did you?
Speaker 2: Where did that come into play?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What what's THEO of that?
Speaker 3: Real quickly, my mother died, my father died. I was
Speaker 3: moved to Los Angeles to live with my aunt.
Speaker 2: She had a son.
Speaker 1: Her name His name was Earl. He thought he was
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: He kept the radio station on the rock stations. I
Speaker 3: had to live in a room with him, so I
Speaker 3: was put into the rock world by listening to everything
Speaker 3: from Jef throw Tall, Black Sabbath, Shit traffic Ello, Blue
Speaker 3: Oyster called all the rock beds. So I understood rock.
Speaker 3: I also understood punk because punk came through Black Flag
Speaker 3: things of that nation.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's part one. I grew up listening to.
Speaker 3: Parliament Funkadelic things like that, so rock and guitars were
Speaker 3: all always part of my thing. I go on tour
Speaker 3: with Public Enemy, I go to Europe and the kids
Speaker 3: are moshing off of hip hop. Now, if you played
Speaker 3: in front of a mosh pit before mop it's wow.
Speaker 3: So once you see a moshpit, fuck a crowd, marsh pits,
Speaker 3: that's the shit. So I'm like, yo, this shit is dope, right,
Speaker 3: So now I want to make music for Mashpip. They
Speaker 3: would mash off of terrooy Dome and fast stuff. So
Speaker 3: now I got Ernie. C Ernie c was my childhood friend,
Speaker 3: went to Crenshall High School with me. He was a
Speaker 3: guitar virtuo. So I said, let's make a metal band.
Speaker 3: Let's make a rock band like O Jimmy Hendrix, but
Speaker 3: more like thrash, more fast, more fast. But I sing
Speaker 3: about the same things I sing about, and that's where
Speaker 3: body Count was introduced, and the first album had cop Killer, KKK, bitch,
Speaker 3: different things on it. It was also a chance for
Speaker 3: Iced Tea to pick another lane. Hip hop is now
Speaker 3: getting crowded, I said, so I did it on the
Speaker 3: original Gangster album. Body Count just recently won the Grammy
Speaker 3: for Best Metal Profile.
Speaker 2: Congratulations.
Speaker 1: So it's also like black people don't even know I
Speaker 1: got a bad black count.
Speaker 3: So we played for one hundred thousand people over at
Speaker 3: the download Fest in Europe. I just finished a new
Speaker 3: album which is called Merciless, and it's just a side
Speaker 3: gig to turn into a major gig. Now body Count
Speaker 3: sells more records than IC see wow, So that's BodyCount BC.
Speaker 1: And also body Count.
Speaker 3: The name body Count was how many people we got
Speaker 3: to show that we dope to become fans.
Speaker 1: And then also it's BC blood crip wow.
Speaker 3: Wow Yeah, so BC, BodyCount fans, respect to your A
Speaker 3: new albums coming.
Speaker 1: It's called Merciless. My first promotion on Drink Champs. That's goddamn.
Speaker 3: And I just showed I just showed Nori in a
Speaker 3: body Count video for Rain and Blood.
Speaker 2: I'm wearing a relaxed T.
Speaker 1: Shirt and a relaxed star Rock T shirt.
Speaker 3: Starck there you go, there you go, There she goes.
Speaker 3: She would lose that bullshit. The bottomless drink. It's got
Speaker 3: icy on drinks. Everybody out there is watching this to say,
Speaker 3: I see you say you don't drink, and it's that,
Speaker 3: and it's a that's it's the truth. I really naturally
Speaker 3: don't drink. But I'm not afraid of drink. I'm not
Speaker 3: afraid of marijuana. I've never smoked weed, but I've been
Speaker 3: on the levels of contact high.
Speaker 2: I ain't smoke either, but we're smoking right now with Nori.
Speaker 1: I hung around smoking right right now. I've been on
Speaker 1: levels of contact high.
Speaker 3: My son was working in a dispensary I never forget,
Speaker 3: and they were smoking all kinds of shit. You know
Speaker 3: the dispensary they got. You know, we smoking abortion, we
Speaker 3: smoking had body.
Speaker 1: You know the names like said body, this is killed
Speaker 1: twenty niggas try it.
Speaker 2: You know the names they got.
Speaker 3: So I'm so high, right, I'm saying, let me show you.
Speaker 3: So I tell the nigga like this, yo, Man, I
Speaker 3: got to go. Man, I'm about to get out of here. Man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so, what's happening now?
Speaker 3: Fuck, I'm like this figga this stut up, turn around
Speaker 3: and sat the funk back down. So, yeah, I've been very,
Speaker 3: very high. Back in the day, we used to sell weed.
Speaker 3: Remember when we was five fingers. Anybody that, Oh you
Speaker 3: get a bag of weed. It was a big bag
Speaker 3: of stress with stems and shit in it. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: early weed game, back in the day.
Speaker 2: You call it what you will.
Speaker 3: So under my staircase, under my staircase in my apartment,
Speaker 3: I had a little closet and we called that the
Speaker 3: gas chamber, and they had pillows in there. Niggas, you
Speaker 3: go in there and smoke weed in there and just
Speaker 3: just like inhale it and just be fucked up. I
Speaker 3: didn't do it, though, but yeah, I've been high. And
Speaker 3: this champagne is not not not bad at all.
Speaker 1: But that's the spade. And I've been thinking that Japanese
Speaker 1: I've been dinging that DeLeon is all deion, that's the killer.
Speaker 1: This is the killer? Is this black owned? Did he
Speaker 1: give me some of that? Stop playing? You're gonna play it.
Speaker 2: There, You're gonna have some mamajuana?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said when I tell people I
Speaker 3: don't drinks. FN when I tell people I don't drink
Speaker 3: or I don't get high, I always never thought it
Speaker 3: was I never thought it was attractive being drunk in public.
Speaker 3: That's not being drunk, you gotta be I understand that,
Speaker 3: that's what we do. But being drunk as a woman.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is wag. This is dangerous. Guys,
Speaker 1: let me explain something to you. Ice.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but a neighbor of minds said
Speaker 5: to me one day, he said, don't walk over there
Speaker 5: by Nori, you're gonna get high.
Speaker 3: To another neighbor, so another neighbors, don't walk over there,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get high, just might be near you by
Speaker 3: being nam me. I didn't like that really, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and I don't care, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: That's one. And I'm gonna do that. You know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do Okay, right, cool?
Speaker 3: So if I drink anymore, I'm gonna do some breakdancing.
Speaker 5: Reconse tell much it's how much I didn't like when
Speaker 5: he said don't go over there, you'll get high.
Speaker 1: I went upstairs.
Speaker 5: I got all my papers, I got my medical marijuana license,
Speaker 5: and I came down and I said to the guy,
Speaker 5: excuse me, sir, I don't get high.
Speaker 1: I get medicaid. I said this doctor subscribed, right. Do
Speaker 1: you understand?
Speaker 3: Getting high is where you go see the guy on
Speaker 3: the corner that's doing pull upsselves your weed.
Speaker 1: This is I'm not. I don't get.
Speaker 3: Doctor told me to me a total difference. Clear, Sorry,
Speaker 3: I mean I'm myself my whole life. I've always been
Speaker 3: like a leader.
Speaker 1: That's so. But to say can you take a shot?
Speaker 2: Can't you take a shot?
Speaker 1: You got a shot drink?
Speaker 2: M hm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Why would the nigga do that?
Speaker 2: You gotta give him the mama water. Just say he did.
Speaker 1: Hold on, there's no.
Speaker 3: Reason to drink this ship other than to get high.
Speaker 3: It doesn't taste good this, Oh my god, I disagree.
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: You know, the where you drink, the more, the easier
Speaker 2: it goes. Now, But shots are never good.
Speaker 3: No, shots are never good. You're supposed to have a
Speaker 3: chill to discuss something like, as I was saying, Nori,
Speaker 3: you ain't drinking.
Speaker 5: The military nor the military got I was army, Charlie
Speaker 5: was army.
Speaker 2: He was army too. He got kicked off the.
Speaker 1: Army twenty fIF D twenty fifth five d t the
Speaker 1: first army talk we ever had on drink camps ever.
Speaker 2: But now he talked about a lot of time dig this.
Speaker 3: I've always been a leader, I've never had security, and
Speaker 3: I always just felt being high compromised my situation. If
Speaker 3: I was your security, I couldn't get high right. But
Speaker 3: now I'm my security right, so I have to be
Speaker 3: on point now. The reason I never I never could
Speaker 3: afford security early in my life, and I noticed people
Speaker 3: that had it started to believe they needed it like
Speaker 3: their brains, that I can't go out without it now
Speaker 3: me like I say, I'm six foot. I always felt
Speaker 3: I missed a good fight, like I took martial arts.
Speaker 3: I can fight, but I gonna get to use it.
Speaker 3: So I always felt like I'm really waiting, like having
Speaker 3: a gun. You just bought a good new gun. I'm
Speaker 3: waiting to work this motherfucker, like I want to use
Speaker 3: it for myself.
Speaker 1: Always said like.
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable, I don't have beef. If you come to
Speaker 3: rob me, my shit's insured. I'm not afraid now I
Speaker 3: know I gave you that gotta relaxed T shirt. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid. Up to this point. Now I might
Speaker 3: say this, go out here and get laid down, but
Speaker 3: with that, but my point is alcohol was one of
Speaker 3: my ways of saying I need to be on point.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: What happened was early in my life. My guys, I
Speaker 3: became the designated driver or the sober nigga and the crew,
Speaker 3: and they liked it. When I was young, big homies
Speaker 3: just like, Yo, nigga, hit the weed. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: want to hit the weed, you bitch. If you don't
Speaker 3: hit the weed, well I'm a bitch. Make me hit
Speaker 3: it while you tripping. Nigga while you tripping. Now, anybody
Speaker 3: tries to get me high, big homie like, nah, nigga,
Speaker 3: don't get high.
Speaker 1: He don't get out because he couldn't get me to
Speaker 1: do it. But so now I become the cat and
Speaker 1: the crew. Ice is good.
Speaker 3: So I'm the nigga like if shit, the ship pops off,
Speaker 3: I'm grabbing niggas like yo nigga, if.
Speaker 1: The police pull up, I'm talking.
Speaker 3: So the homies respected that it's always good to have
Speaker 3: a sober nigga in the click.
Speaker 1: But it's always good a nigga does not get hided.
Speaker 1: And if you're in a room if you on some
Speaker 1: gangster shit.
Speaker 3: Right, if you're in a room and it's somebody that
Speaker 3: don't get high, that's the most dangerous nigga in that room,
Speaker 3: that's right. You know, if you hire security, they can't
Speaker 3: get high with you. You like, nigga, want you put
Speaker 3: that drink down? Motherfucker watch my back. So that's why
Speaker 3: I don't drink. But I'm not afraid of it. I'm
Speaker 3: not afraid of weed. I'm not afraid of drugs. I
Speaker 3: am afraid of drugs now because the petamom. I'm afraid
Speaker 3: of that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't I've done that ecstasy before?
Speaker 2: She's coming out like that.
Speaker 1: What happened when you're on? Never weed? I was in Miami,
Speaker 1: of course, of course, never we did. A guy named
Speaker 1: Eddie Giggs bringing to you.
Speaker 2: No. Never, we.
Speaker 3: Never coked, been around tons of coke, never did it,
Speaker 3: never sniffed it.
Speaker 1: Never touched it, never smoked it. Uh, ecstasy, How.
Speaker 2: Does this happen?
Speaker 1: My whole thing was give me a benefit and I'll
Speaker 1: do it. You an equinox and somebody coming to you.
Speaker 2: Well, why you want it?
Speaker 1: Why you want it? So my wife Coco, Okay, she's
Speaker 1: a party girl.
Speaker 3: She's from Vegas. She doesn't blow Oh everything, party did
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Pretty girls go out on the yachts
Speaker 3: and the boats. They early life s they wilding. Okay,
Speaker 3: so she lived that life, had been there, done that
Speaker 3: scene at all, but she stopped. So when we would
Speaker 3: go out, she would drink, and she would want me
Speaker 3: to drink. I'm like, I ain't really trying to drink.
Speaker 3: I gotta watch you, you know.
Speaker 1: So that was one, two three. Oh yeah, if you
Speaker 1: out with.
Speaker 3: Your wife and she gets drunk, somebody gotta stay soaper, right,
Speaker 3: So I'm covering that, covering that. So now ecstasy, it's
Speaker 3: a sex drug, got my attention, sexy time. It's a
Speaker 3: sex drug that is not I don't need it. I
Speaker 3: don't have erectional issues yet.
Speaker 2: Where are we going with this?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm ready. Now I wasn't ready. No, I don't
Speaker 1: have them yet.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I'm doing the right diet. But
Speaker 3: they say it's more than that. It's not like I
Speaker 3: needed to take Viagara.
Speaker 1: It's something.
Speaker 3: It's it's spirits, it's another thing. So now they got
Speaker 3: my interest. I'm like, well, this sex is the best
Speaker 3: ship in the world.
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck? So I'm down here at in Miami.
Speaker 1: It is Miami and uh crow Bar?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course this might have been the event.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna validate my stories with documented ship.
Speaker 1: I'm not making a chef.
Speaker 3: My boy told me one time, he said, you never
Speaker 3: got to lie because people won't.
Speaker 1: Believe the truth. Your truth is so out fucking rageous.
Speaker 1: Just tell the truth.
Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna be like, you're lying. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 3: we going to crow Bar. Now, Crowbar is techno. Okay,
Speaker 3: that was the first base. Yeah, yeah, I'm in the
Speaker 3: story with this. You got you got, you got living
Speaker 3: room down here, you got Crowbar, you got this lane. Right,
Speaker 3: So I'm in Crowbar. What is It's like, it's in
Speaker 3: a place to look. It's like a theater.
Speaker 2: No, cameo, cameo, cameo.
Speaker 3: Right, that's what that's what I'm in, South Beach, South Beach. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what that's what they called it.
Speaker 1: I'm learning lessons. Let's go walk with me, Walk with
Speaker 1: me into this world of vice tea. I'm with Coco.
Speaker 2: Don't load.
Speaker 1: Now, me and my wife we go everywhere by ourselves.
Speaker 3: We don't go with entiurige. We go on vacations alone.
Speaker 3: Now we got a daughter, but we go vacate. I
Speaker 3: don't need to bring niggas. I used to do that
Speaker 3: when I didn't have a wife. Now I got a wife.
Speaker 3: We lead a hotel. We going to Crowbar. She got
Speaker 3: on the sexy ship. We hit the club. It's techno.
Speaker 3: For some reason, that night I said, I'm ready to roll.
Speaker 1: Now that's what let's roll. So she goes ready ready.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, what do I do? So you got
Speaker 3: to find somebody with some E. Now I'm the dope
Speaker 3: fiend in the up. This might be a great story.
Speaker 3: This might be the greatest drink. Sam three, This is
Speaker 3: the greatest drink. Gips are already already. This story made
Speaker 3: me take that was not part of the game, and
Speaker 3: it's it's tickling me because I'm a member in it.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: So we in the club, plounce Coco got a ship
Speaker 3: on him. I'm like that, So she goes, yo, find it.
Speaker 3: Now I'm walking around the club like you got E.
Speaker 2: The white kids were like yo, I.
Speaker 1: See So.
Speaker 3: I'm like yo, this bad life fucking So now I
Speaker 3: walk over and I see the dude.
Speaker 1: I see the dude, you.
Speaker 3: Know with the big pants and the big platform shoot.
Speaker 1: And the and all the all the lights and all
Speaker 1: the you know, I see, I see mister Eve.
Speaker 2: He's got it all, you know, the looks.
Speaker 1: So he's doing this ship. So I walk up to him.
Speaker 1: I said, yo, man, you know I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: to me. He looks around, he goes yo. I said,
Speaker 1: he's trying to get out. So I said, yo, play
Speaker 1: look look I heard you the man.
Speaker 2: I heard you the man.
Speaker 3: The motherfucker reached in his pocket and pulled out a
Speaker 3: handful of ecstasy like maybe twenty tags.
Speaker 1: He said, you hurt.
Speaker 2: I'm the man you put in my hand.
Speaker 1: He said, now you're the man, real talk.
Speaker 3: Swear to God, God bless this dude started me on
Speaker 3: my life of drugs.
Speaker 5: So I go back to Coco because you got twenty,
Speaker 5: you took the whole twenty, you took.
Speaker 2: The whole shit.
Speaker 3: He get me your hunt, nigga said the nigga the
Speaker 3: tempt shit or he was, you hurt, I'm the man now,
Speaker 3: so he hits me off.
Speaker 1: So now you my back. Just now, I look, I
Speaker 1: got the back. Continue do I walk over to Coco.
Speaker 1: I go yo, So I show her. She goes, yo,
Speaker 1: that's too much sweat. Are you gonna do that? I said,
Speaker 1: So what do I do? She said, take one? One
Speaker 1: hold one oh shot. She took a half.
Speaker 3: It was one of it was looked like it was
Speaker 3: one of the kind that looked like a cylinder with
Speaker 3: two flat tops.
Speaker 1: You're feeling me.
Speaker 2: Double stacks. Look at that look double yes. Okay, at
Speaker 2: some point, at some point if.
Speaker 3: You seems mine, at some point, if you stay on
Speaker 3: drink champ long enough, you'll go into the hole.
Speaker 2: You're going to tapping into a different level. We done
Speaker 2: left gang bang, We done.
Speaker 1: Left pimping all that pimping.
Speaker 2: We are in the E word.
Speaker 1: And we're going into the let's go and it's four
Speaker 1: four four right by the way.
Speaker 3: So she tells me to take one. I take one.
Speaker 3: This is the first thing that happens. I start rubbing malig.
Speaker 2: Then for the first time in my entire life, this
Speaker 2: is like an E commercial from my seed.
Speaker 3: Listen, it gets greater because everybody in here that's done
Speaker 3: E understands I'm not I'm not making this ship up.
Speaker 3: I cannot lie and say I did eat without these
Speaker 3: certain things happening. I started touching my legs. Then, for
Speaker 3: the first time in my life, I understood techno, like
Speaker 3: all that shit they used to go boom bump, bump bump,
Speaker 3: because I used to hang out in techno clubs when
Speaker 3: we traveled all over the music when e f N
Speaker 3: when you travel as rappers all over Europe, the only
Speaker 3: clubs to go to with girls are techno clubs. They
Speaker 3: know hip hop clubs, so we would be in them.
Speaker 3: But I'm just boom boom boom boom boom. I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not getting it. I'm like yo, yo, this fuck
Speaker 3: like I'm like that. But they partying. So now tonight techno.
Speaker 1: The ships just opened up.
Speaker 3: I heard the strings nance I could see techno, and
Speaker 3: I said, this music you gotta be hot, you gotta
Speaker 3: be hot now. The next thing that happened is Coco.
Speaker 3: Everything around Coco went out of focus.
Speaker 2: She was in a glow.
Speaker 3: She's dancing in front of me, but I don't see anything.
Speaker 3: Nothing else in the motherfucking room mattered but her, and
Speaker 3: she's looking hotter than ever. Next thing, you know, I
Speaker 3: got her on a speaker. She done climbed up on
Speaker 3: the motherfucker's streaker. I might have been a little bit
Speaker 3: too cautious to do, but now get on that speaker, baby,
Speaker 3: I'm staying like yo.
Speaker 1: Like it was like godly ship and I'm like, yo.
Speaker 3: Now here's a trip with ecstasy. Ecstasy you roll. If
Speaker 3: somebody goes like this, you become high. I mean, you
Speaker 3: become like what's that name? If you come out of
Speaker 3: the high. It's not like drunk, you're always drunk.
Speaker 1: Ee. It's kind of like people that have never done it.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like if you ever listen to music
Speaker 3: and you got into the music and you got into
Speaker 3: this vibe, but then somebody came in the house, you
Speaker 3: come out of it.
Speaker 1: You could come out of it. You can go. You're
Speaker 1: not always high on E. You gotta let E take
Speaker 1: you the place?
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: You can you roll, but then you can snap out
Speaker 1: of it. You're sober.
Speaker 2: Can you get back after?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You can.
Speaker 2: You just gotta let it happen. It comes in way
Speaker 2: a lot of experience. People.
Speaker 1: No, no, I want this shit to.
Speaker 3: Be official tissues because we over here talking about drugs.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker.
Speaker 3: So anyway, me and Coco Lee, the motherfucking roll right,
Speaker 3: we get back glove the club, the globe. We get
Speaker 3: back to the room, right. I turned into like Max hardcore.
Speaker 3: I turned to like the illess porn star.
Speaker 1: Or the history of the room.
Speaker 3: I'm like in my DV and ship like. So let
Speaker 3: me just break it down. This is this is for
Speaker 3: viral ship.
Speaker 2: You in.
Speaker 3: The only way I can explain it is that when
Speaker 3: we got ready to have sex, it was like choir
Speaker 3: music and angels was coming out the pussy like and
Speaker 3: my dick was so hard. I like shut the door
Speaker 3: with my dick. Yeah, yeah, you first time. So I
Speaker 3: went into Max Hawk, you dirty bitch ship. So I
Speaker 3: fucked dog ship out of her. And the reason I know,
Speaker 3: the reason I know I'm not just patting myself on
Speaker 3: the back is when it was over, she said where
Speaker 3: did you come from?
Speaker 2: Now, when your woman says that to you, you know
Speaker 2: you did damn it.
Speaker 1: She said, where did you come from?
Speaker 3: So that next morning I called my home boy Shiny Shine.
Speaker 3: I said, I found my ship. I'm the posting shower
Speaker 3: for acts.
Speaker 2: This is my drug.
Speaker 3: Fast forward, one more quick story. So we're in my
Speaker 3: We're in, and this is why I don't do it.
Speaker 3: So We're in Atlantic City.
Speaker 1: The positive. We're in Atlantic City.
Speaker 3: I gotta what they call it when you do you
Speaker 3: get a lot of gigs in one place of residence.
Speaker 3: I'm doing eight shows over twelve months. They're like hosting bullshit.
Speaker 3: Hosting is fun. Hosting is the best hustle in the world.
Speaker 3: You to show up at the club, up and get
Speaker 3: on the mic and get paid. Right, you only do
Speaker 3: a show. So I'm hosting in Atlantic City. So Coco
Speaker 3: comes up to me because she always wants to get high.
Speaker 3: She probably wants me to do that damn thing like that, right.
Speaker 2: She.
Speaker 1: Want to return the man take this up.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I was, like she said, but this
Speaker 3: time she says, they got Molly. Molly comes into capsule.
Speaker 3: Molly is not a pill. Molly Molly is what the
Speaker 3: fuck they put in that capsule Moll when went bad.
Speaker 3: So basically she gets to Molly. We split it up.
Speaker 2: Bam, we take it right.
Speaker 3: I'm hosting. Blow It's over now, shows over. I get
Speaker 3: in the hotel room. I'm ready to turn into devious
Speaker 3: you know, tonguesen still doctor backbreaker.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go in.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go in.
Speaker 1: YO.
Speaker 2: That ship had me like this a VAMPI.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, what the fuck is this? Ship?
Speaker 2: Nigga?
Speaker 1: I'm lit.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this is not X.
Speaker 1: So it was. It was speed a crystal oh ship dog.
Speaker 3: I was up.
Speaker 1: I was up all night.
Speaker 2: The next day.
Speaker 1: I drove back to New Jersey. I stayed up the
Speaker 1: next all.
Speaker 2: Safe to say. You did Dvius like her from tongue,
Speaker 2: no slanging.
Speaker 1: No sense. We were both like yo, like yo, ship. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We both talked.
Speaker 1: I was like yo, like what's happening?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Nigga was like what sun like now? I were like
Speaker 3: rustlers to the next day, Monday, I had to.
Speaker 1: Go to lawn order.
Speaker 4: I showed up on the set, like show him higher.
Speaker 4: I told everybody I'm higher from Saturday. So everybody along
Speaker 4: ar is like Ice is high.
Speaker 3: They just thought it was funny because everybody sucked around.
Speaker 3: I'm ready for my lines. I'm reading my lines fast, Like,
Speaker 3: give what.
Speaker 1: Show?
Speaker 2: It took three days.
Speaker 1: To some off that show.
Speaker 2: I have got you got Molly Walks.
Speaker 3: Everybody out there watching drink champs you noticed my I
Speaker 3: mean you might have.
Speaker 1: I didn't die.
Speaker 2: It wasn't set. It could have been.
Speaker 1: Fital real song.
Speaker 6: So I died.
Speaker 3: It was definitely speed, some powerful ship and I was ready.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what's in those pills? That's
Speaker 3: the I know, like you know, macho man man he
Speaker 3: So since that day, I haven't touched any drug because
Speaker 3: now with the fenanyl and the death of all my friends,
Speaker 3: you don't know what is in this ship no more.
Speaker 3: And you know the cartel they making percosets to look
Speaker 3: like them, and all that ship is.
Speaker 2: Pumping it into the cartels and the cartels pumping I.
Speaker 3: Just have regular sex nowadays, you know, anymore. I have
Speaker 3: to figure it out, you know. But that was that
Speaker 3: That shit turned me into a monster. That shit is,
Speaker 3: you know, But no, I don't. I'm afraid. I'm nervous.
Speaker 3: I don't want to die like that, like I I
Speaker 3: can't die like that.
Speaker 1: I can't die like that. I just got to go
Speaker 1: down and like some wow shit guns smoke, wow shit.
Speaker 5: But I'll get to a serious note real quick. I'm
Speaker 5: in Vegas. Uh you in Vegas doing the Art of
Speaker 5: Raps talk. I had we on the on the run
Speaker 5: eating We're doing our full show. So I hed is like, yo,
Speaker 5: so yo, come to the show. Excuse me, I asked, him,
Speaker 5: can I do a guest appearance on the show. Honest,
Speaker 5: it's like performing to night, performing the night. Can't come
Speaker 5: out with us. I'm like, no problem, But they didn't
Speaker 5: tell me was right before they performing Mark Deep is
Speaker 5: coming out. So Prodigy was a person that I knew
Speaker 5: so long, and that was like the last time I
Speaker 5: got to see Prodigy.
Speaker 1: We hugged each other smack fives.
Speaker 3: He told me, as he told me many other times
Speaker 3: that I was on Tobi him said, yo, you you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna you know, I ain't feeling good.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, whatever, whatever. But I've heard that so
Speaker 1: many times.
Speaker 5: And then come downstairs and got drunken with them, so
Speaker 5: nothing and having it was like, I'll be right here.
Speaker 1: So I went.
Speaker 5: Performed and I actually like seen Havoc. I believe I
Speaker 5: had a couple of drinks with him. Then they said
Speaker 5: party went to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Again. I've been on tour with Mard.
Speaker 5: So long and this was a regular thing, so no
Speaker 5: one kind of got alarmed. But then as a message
Speaker 5: seven o'clock in the morning, I remember I was downstairs
Speaker 5: smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 1: And that stuff.
Speaker 5: Smoking a cigarette, they said priories he passed. It was like, oh,
Speaker 5: ship because like like you ever seen I don't want
Speaker 5: to say like the wolf that cry, but you ever
Speaker 5: like going through something all the time. And they're like,
Speaker 5: all right, right, that's how I should have gone. That's
Speaker 5: how Havoc did it. That's how in my mind, you know,
Speaker 5: Trip did it. So everybody else with them, you know, oh,
Speaker 5: they're people that I know and my people that I know.
Speaker 5: But then that ship, it hit that moment. I know,
Speaker 5: I had to feel weird for you because he was
Speaker 5: actually out there with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with you. So how did you.
Speaker 2: At my event?
Speaker 3: Well, we did the art Wrap movie and I wasn't
Speaker 3: able to incorporate everybody that I wanted in the movie.
Speaker 3: I actually shot Noriega and Compone, but I had to
Speaker 3: make the movie a ninety minute edit, so they made
Speaker 3: it onto the extra like you get the extra CD.
Speaker 1: But it was still more about people I respected.
Speaker 3: So when it was over, Mickey Benson, my partner, I said,
Speaker 3: why don't you take this on the road. Let's turn
Speaker 3: this into a brand where we could bring out people
Speaker 3: that we feel will represent the art of rap.
Speaker 1: We're still going right now.
Speaker 3: We have one coming up this week, well this next
Speaker 3: month with Denny Siegel, Memphis Bleak and Freeway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a wrap shows. It's just a brand. It's like
Speaker 1: Rock the Bells whatever.
Speaker 3: Mob Deep being one of my favorite groups, we always
Speaker 3: extended a leaf to them, like like, yo, we got
Speaker 3: shows coming up. This is what we can pay you
Speaker 3: if you guys want to show up.
Speaker 1: Love. They always did it.
Speaker 2: You really love Mob Deep.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Everybody got a favorite group, It's beautiful. What's
Speaker 1: your favorite group? Okay? I just I was.
Speaker 3: To me, Mob Deep was like I never heard two
Speaker 3: rappers rap so similar. And then I learned having taught
Speaker 3: Prodigy how to rap but actually wrote his wraps at
Speaker 3: the beginning, right. But to me, Prodigy shit was not
Speaker 3: just a gangster. It was more like converas sational shit.
Speaker 3: But it was so gangster the way he would say shit,
Speaker 3: you know, and I just loved it.
Speaker 1: I just loved it. I mean, you might listen to
Speaker 1: some of my shit, you'd be like that, kind of
Speaker 1: like pride shit. You know.
Speaker 3: I actually used Prodigy for one of my hooks on retaliation.
Speaker 3: I'm busting off to my I'm letting off to my
Speaker 3: arms tired, right, So anyway, I met them. Of course,
Speaker 3: when you like somebody you end up meeting them.
Speaker 1: Lovers Love. They used me on the intro one of
Speaker 1: their albums.
Speaker 3: So when I did that, so now here we are
Speaker 3: in Vegas, mob dedate on LA that, this, that, and so.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: Because if you saw Prodigy that night, Prodigy was like
Speaker 3: on Swoll.
Speaker 1: Prodigy came out of the pen. He looked good.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He was standing straight up
Speaker 3: and down like what's happening, daddy? And we get so
Speaker 3: used to people dying from gunfire and this that, and third,
Speaker 3: I just I want to sidetrack one of my buddies,
Speaker 3: one of my best friend's, Big Rich.
Speaker 1: I get a call this morning his son just drowned. Damn.
Speaker 3: His son was jumped into some lake or something that
Speaker 3: was nearer damn, and he hasn't been found.
Speaker 1: I came here kind of fucked up.
Speaker 3: We get so used to yeah, yeah, rest in peace,
Speaker 3: Rest in peace, big little Rich.
Speaker 1: But we come we so used to violence.
Speaker 3: If you had have told me somebody clap Prodigy on
Speaker 3: the strip, I'm like, Prodgy talks a lot of shit.
Speaker 1: Dying. They said he choked on the egg.
Speaker 3: I was just fucked up like my idol, one of
Speaker 3: my guys, and the cold thing is probably just moved
Speaker 3: over by me. He must moved over in New Jersey
Speaker 3: where I lived. So I was looking forward to kicking
Speaker 3: it with him, you know, making records together. Wow, it
Speaker 3: fucked me up. And then the B side, that is,
Speaker 3: later on I ran into Havoc, and Havoc sat next
Speaker 3: to me and cried like ice man, you you don't
Speaker 3: even know, just you saying how much you love us,
Speaker 3: how that has helped us, you know, like if you think.
Speaker 1: About it, sorry, sorry to cut you off. We even
Speaker 1: think about it. We saw the last moments of his life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was healthy, he was healthy, he did
Speaker 3: the show, he got off, he was healthy. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: was healthy. And then that that that quick thing, sickle cell.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think after COVID, all of us
Speaker 3: realize how fragile life is.
Speaker 1: That after COVID. That was after COVID. But I'm saying, no,
Speaker 1: that was before COVID.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, But he's saying this after COVID, we
Speaker 2: were after COVID.
Speaker 3: All of us now realize how life is so precious.
Speaker 3: I talked to Fred, to God's son. He was in
Speaker 3: the hospital. I got this, I got this, I got this.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about me. A couple of days that he
Speaker 3: was gone. See what I'm saying. So one thing I say, Norie,
Speaker 3: is that we are all the same age. Everyone in
Speaker 3: this room. We're the same age. You either are alive
Speaker 3: or you're not. Because you might know how much money
Speaker 3: you got, but nobody knows how much time they got.
Speaker 1: So we're here. That's what we are. We're not an age.
Speaker 1: We're here.
Speaker 3: The kid that's fifteen might die before me. You see
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So age really doesn't matter. It's you're
Speaker 3: alive or you're not. There's no age, just winning because none,
Speaker 3: there's no date on it. And Prodigy to go like that.
Speaker 3: It fucked me up because I was looking a lot
Speaker 3: of huh. I was looking forward to good times. I
Speaker 3: was looking forward to having fun and getting closer to
Speaker 3: him as a friend.
Speaker 1: It sucks, man, It's a really It hit me hard.
Speaker 5: Like you know, Travis Scott had performed right when he performed,
Speaker 5: like so many people that blamed him for over it,
Speaker 5: was there anybody that no, okay.
Speaker 1: No, we had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, we got praised for being somebody
Speaker 3: that was putting out, putting mob Deep on the rug.
Speaker 3: You know, the thing of it is is like a
Speaker 3: lot of these rappers right now, the art rap was
Speaker 3: created just for you. But a lot of rappers are
Speaker 3: gold and platinum sellers. But if you're waiting on Drake
Speaker 3: to take you on the road, you may never tour,
Speaker 3: you feel me. So we needed to create something for
Speaker 3: people that were gold and platinum that could still go gig.
Speaker 3: So that's what art rap is based around. People like yourself,
Speaker 3: Mob Deep, Boots, just groups that need to go out
Speaker 3: and gig and still can, right. So that's what That's
Speaker 3: what my my platform is from. And I've never made
Speaker 3: a dime off off of art of rap shows. That's
Speaker 3: Mickey's hustle'. That's the way I gave my man something
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: Do Mickey Benson. Yeah, damn, thanks a Noyse for that.
Speaker 1: I told said when we do when we do art rap,
Speaker 1: I'm an artist.
Speaker 3: You gotta negotiate meet with me for my price, and
Speaker 3: then you just pay me what I do and I
Speaker 3: do the show. I'm not gonna do none of the
Speaker 3: bullshit in the back, no negotiations, none of that I'm
Speaker 3: showing up as an artist.
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Speaker 2: I love the baby racking man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: You know, this may more than any award that you
Speaker 4: can get on some real ship, because it means that
Speaker 4: you appreciated by your peers, You appreciated by the people
Speaker 4: that you do it for and not accept my flowers.
Speaker 1: We just took us to a serious mode. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: go from ecstasy. That's what drink Champ says is a
Speaker 1: roller coaster.
Speaker 3: I need some dark liquor if you want to take
Speaker 3: me there, I give you a Mama the dark liquor.
Speaker 1: You know what drink that shot a clear liquor makes
Speaker 1: you party? Dark liquld be like, you know, I love
Speaker 1: you got that's my ma. Man. You drink this, I'd
Speaker 1: be like noriyeh, nigga, fuck with you. I'd be the
Speaker 1: first to dish die nigga, this ship has you in
Speaker 1: your feelings. Fuck it. I don't like Alice. Ship takes
Speaker 1: that that right there? Didn't taste that. See see what's that?
Speaker 3: That's the mamajuna, that's that's that's that's decent words, It's decent.
Speaker 3: This is on a soul power. Okay, I like it now.
Speaker 3: Now I am officially on drink champions right now.
Speaker 2: They got.
Speaker 1: Break you are. I'm an old nigga. I usually have
Speaker 1: to piss every time I stand up.
Speaker 2: So if you sit down, you good.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't had to piss.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm maybe you guys got me on adrenaline or
Speaker 1: some ship. But what you say, they're hating you, but
Speaker 1: you hating them back. And it reminded me of your speech.
Speaker 1: What's that? I don't hate nobody back. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't know why anybody would hate another mother fucker.
Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of times people hate you
Speaker 3: for ship. They heard about you. There wasn't even true.
Speaker 3: You know, there was this kid that this kid had
Speaker 3: a kid named Ice, who was connected to uh, connected
Speaker 3: to Joe Buden, this boy, and he made a big
Speaker 3: thing about why black women ain't ship and I took
Speaker 3: the heat for it and I never said it. So
Speaker 3: a lot of people, oh, because I what's his name?
Speaker 3: You know it's man, you know, a guy named Ice
Speaker 3: one of his friends. So anyway, he actually called me,
Speaker 3: said Ice, I said that that was not you. I said, well,
Speaker 3: there's no way to unring a bell like they the
Speaker 3: black women. Since I got a white wife, they feel
Speaker 3: that's me, and you know, they got pissed at me,
Speaker 3: and it was something I never said. So a lot
Speaker 3: a lot of times people dislike you for the bullshit
Speaker 3: like somebody said, did this, that and the third? Now
Speaker 3: they don't like you and it wasn't even true. You know,
Speaker 3: That's why good podcast is a good I mean, a
Speaker 3: podcast like this is a good place for you to
Speaker 3: really decide whether you fuck with a nigga or not.
Speaker 2: You know, it's long form. You get a chance to
Speaker 2: I always.
Speaker 3: Told bitches, if a motherfucker you dealing with a dude,
Speaker 3: you don't like me, that's a red flag.
Speaker 1: Bitch.
Speaker 3: If you're dealing with a dude and he got a
Speaker 3: problem with me. Watch that dude. Watch that dude. You
Speaker 3: didn't watch him, not me? Watch him.
Speaker 1: There's some reason he don't like me. There's some reason
Speaker 1: that he.
Speaker 3: Don't like me, and I might have triggered his real nerve,
Speaker 3: like I don't challenge his realness at some point because
Speaker 3: real niggas ain't afraid to say nothing.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I'm scared. I ain't afraid of realness.
Speaker 3: Okay, you can challenge your pimping will challenge another nigga's realness.
Speaker 3: So they'll watch you, and it'll offend them that you're
Speaker 3: so real. It'll funk with them. It'll funk with them,
Speaker 3: especially around the bitch. They'd be like, damn, I'm offending
Speaker 3: that shit got deep, right.
Speaker 1: But it's real, it's really. They'll offendom because it's a
Speaker 1: roller cos you got another shot.
Speaker 2: You're taking a shot. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm over here drinking this champagne. This champagne.
Speaker 3: You know what niggas got players do we drink champagne
Speaker 3: best cocaine.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about how how did you get into pimping?
Speaker 1: How did how?
Speaker 2: I never was a pimp?
Speaker 3: Okay, I never was a pimp. I hung around pimps.
Speaker 3: I understand the pimp pinal code.
Speaker 2: I had a code. I know the rules of the game.
Speaker 1: I had girls.
Speaker 3: When we was hustling and stealing, I had girls on
Speaker 3: my team. These girls were what they consider in the
Speaker 3: streets thoroughbreds. You know what a thoroughbread is. That's a
Speaker 3: bitch of the fuck, steal rob work class.
Speaker 1: See the hustle.
Speaker 3: But pussy is not out of the equation if that's
Speaker 3: what it takes to solve them right, hustle right, I
Speaker 3: rolled with some thoroughbred bitches. Was I sending them? Not necessarily,
Speaker 3: so it was part of the game, you understand me.
Speaker 3: So I never was no ten toes down pimp standing
Speaker 3: on the corner with bitches. But I fucked with players
Speaker 3: and pimps and stuff like that. So I was in
Speaker 3: the life. So you know, they respected me. I dressed
Speaker 3: the pimp look and all that shit. But as that
Speaker 3: being my occupation making money, no, it never was. No.
Speaker 3: But some of the girls I rolled with was getting
Speaker 3: money and they would handle their business.
Speaker 1: However the situation roused.
Speaker 3: You understand, I'm saying the pimp hos you send bitches,
Speaker 3: you send bitches, you get money.
Speaker 1: And all that old shit that wasn't really I say.
Speaker 3: I say in one of my records, I say, but
Speaker 3: I said, I took on the uh, I took on
Speaker 3: the ice tea name. But the pimp game moved too slow,
Speaker 3: especially for a nigga who was hooked on quick though.
Speaker 3: So being a robber and a hustler, that was just different.
Speaker 3: But I'm cool with the pimps. I hung with players.
Speaker 3: I grew up around players and hustlers. Some of my
Speaker 3: great uncles are some of the great pimps, so I
Speaker 3: understand the game.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm not a pimp.
Speaker 3: And I also would never never admit anything illegal on
Speaker 3: television smart smartest, I would never admit anything illegal.
Speaker 1: But no, that's no.
Speaker 3: It's an offensive word to a lot of women, but
Speaker 3: a lot of players actually the hustle with women, Like.
Speaker 2: The women are their partners, you're saying in the game.
Speaker 5: But let me ask you, Like, there's some strippers who
Speaker 5: made a whole life of their self or being a strippers,
Speaker 5: and then there's some pimps that made the whole Like
Speaker 5: when you I remember looking at your acceptance speech, one
Speaker 5: of the first peoples that I seen you shout out
Speaker 5: was Bishop don walt.
Speaker 1: A in May I love pimps. I mean, I understand
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 3: It's it's the underworld. It's the underworld and one of
Speaker 3: the oldest the FN it's the underworld guy. There's a
Speaker 3: car thief guy. There's an arm robber guy. There is
Speaker 3: a drug dealer. You a pimp, you coke dealer, all
Speaker 3: in the same world. Let's switch the underworld, all right,
Speaker 3: the Underworld the underworld can all show up at the
Speaker 3: Players ball because we all players. We're not we're not
Speaker 3: we don't buy by the law. So I lived in
Speaker 3: that world for a long period of time. I'm very
Speaker 3: comfortable in that world. Do I condone it? Hey, it's
Speaker 3: breaking the law. Pimping is illegal, selling drugs is illegal.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people say, well, Ice, a lot
Speaker 3: of things you did, do you regret?
Speaker 1: I quote Fargo. You ever see the movie Fargo? It's
Speaker 1: affleck right. Yeah, it seemed like the right thing to
Speaker 1: do at the time. That's my answer.
Speaker 3: At this point in my life, when I do some
Speaker 3: of them things, and I know, I mean I look
Speaker 3: at some of the shit I did, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm crazy.
Speaker 3: Have I ever told a bitch yo, go go hook?
Speaker 3: Up with this nigga and get this paper. Yes, was
Speaker 3: it my main force source of income? No, But I
Speaker 3: remember I had this one bra and I was trying
Speaker 3: to send her. I was reading this pimp shit. I
Speaker 3: had started dressing fly. I was trying to get her
Speaker 3: a hook up with these old men.
Speaker 2: She ran over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like these old niggas did me tricks that. They
Speaker 3: was like, we wanted me on bitches down here. So
Speaker 3: I try to send the bitch. So she runs over
Speaker 3: to my other dude, my boy, my buddy. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say anybody's name.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I like I used to say names, but a lot
Speaker 3: of these women have grown up in their church women
Speaker 3: now their school teachers Like, I don't say my fun
Speaker 3: miss Louise, I mean't have one of my buddies. Mama's
Speaker 3: checked me, geez, like you put me in your book Ice,
Speaker 3: come on. I'm like, okay, so I've learned that lesson.
Speaker 3: But anyway, the girls, the girl I had at the time,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to send her, you know, testing my pimping.
Speaker 3: She runs to my buddy. I just try to He's
Speaker 3: like telling me, oh man, she chose me. I hit
Speaker 3: him with the mac Nigga. You were rest taven for hoes.
Speaker 3: This is just trying to escape this instem like, come on, man.
Speaker 3: But anyway, she ran off with him. But I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean no, no, But I'll come from
Speaker 3: the life and I'm very comfortable around the players, and
Speaker 3: I'm accepted as a player. Okay, take it or leave it,
Speaker 3: that's how it is.
Speaker 1: You did it.
Speaker 3: But I understand the pimpedical. I understand pimping backwards and forward.
Speaker 1: I understand it. I'm named after Iceberg Slim.
Speaker 3: I name myself because I used to read so much
Speaker 3: Iceberg Slim. Of course, it wanted me to get any
Speaker 3: Donald Goran is another writer, but Iceberg is Jeff Beck,
Speaker 3: who wrote the Iceberg Slim novels. I actually have a
Speaker 3: documentary called Portrait of a Pim that we did I
Speaker 3: produce about his life. So I'm reading that shit. Of course,
Speaker 3: I want to try to put it down. But then
Speaker 3: I had an epiphany one day. I'm like, he's a writer,
Speaker 3: so there's going to be a lot of players, but
Speaker 3: the player that everyone knows, Iceberg Slim, is because he
Speaker 3: documented the game. So if I want to live forever
Speaker 3: in the game, I can't live the game. I have
Speaker 3: to document the game. If you listen to ice he records,
Speaker 3: they're not records, they're books. The lyrics that there is
Speaker 3: me doing Iceberg Slim over music. When you listen to
Speaker 3: all the records, it's like I'm spitting game. It's not
Speaker 3: about dancing, throw your hands in the air.
Speaker 1: It's is them.
Speaker 2: So that's what it is.
Speaker 1: So you know, I met Iceberg Slim before you pass.
Speaker 1: Get out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fab five Freddy hooked me up with him, damn.
Speaker 3: And I told Iceberg Slim to his face. I said,
Speaker 3: you know, I named myself after you. He said, well
Speaker 3: who better?
Speaker 1: Baby?
Speaker 3: And I'm friends with his daughters and all that. But
Speaker 3: Iceberg Slim changed his life at the end. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, one of my favorite Iceberg Slim quotes is,
Speaker 3: if you want to play this game, meaning the streets.
Speaker 1: It's gonna cost you something. It's gonna cost you, you.
Speaker 3: Know, whether it's penitentiary time, losing a close friend. But
Speaker 3: there's no there will be a charge. Admit and into
Speaker 3: this game, you know, and I change my life. I
Speaker 3: changed my life. See I see, Just so you niggas
Speaker 3: know this is what I see. Is I see as
Speaker 3: a hustler and a player who went down this road,
Speaker 3: the street road of hustling, and I run it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the best.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the flyer. I'm gonna be that nigga.
Speaker 3: But I get to the end of this road and
Speaker 3: it's a cliff, and I see everybody going off, people
Speaker 3: I admire, dying, going life in prison, el wip. I
Speaker 3: see as me on this same road, running backwards, saying,
Speaker 3: don't go that way. That's my music, don't go that way,
Speaker 3: don't get in the gang, don't try this. That's what
Speaker 3: I That's what I'm doing here today. That's who I
Speaker 3: see is. I know there's a cliff.
Speaker 1: You might not see it.
Speaker 2: You might pass me.
Speaker 1: Oh you an old niggas. I'm smarter than you.
Speaker 3: Before we do stupid things, we all justify that stupid
Speaker 3: thing we're about to do. U.
Speaker 1: So you can take it to leave it. Like I
Speaker 1: tell niggas, you can listen to me or a prison guard. Nigga.
Speaker 1: You want to, you take your choice. But I'm here
Speaker 1: to tell you I tested the.
Speaker 3: Game, the Coke game, the Jacker rob game, all them games,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna end up Dad are in jail.
Speaker 1: There's no retirement.
Speaker 3: The only niggas that have retired from the game have
Speaker 3: got out and transition. But there's no do a died
Speaker 3: dead gangsters sixty years old. It's been just still gangsters.
Speaker 3: Fuck out of here. It doesn't work like that. Now.
Speaker 3: You could be fifty cent and you could be a
Speaker 3: real live nigga on the streets and you can get out.
Speaker 1: You could be a jay Z live nigga.
Speaker 2: Get out. But staying in it ten toes down.
Speaker 1: Get out of here.
Speaker 3: Name one, because the streets will rat you out, the
Speaker 3: enemies will come and get you, or the police.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I tell street niggas, if you popping on the street, yes,
Speaker 3: and if everybody in the street knows your name, so
Speaker 3: did the police. The only way you're gonna survive is
Speaker 3: become an informant.
Speaker 1: Holy moly, welcome only.
Speaker 5: Did you ever think I know this is a cliche
Speaker 5: type of question, but did you ever think that hip
Speaker 5: hop would make it this far?
Speaker 1: He's a perfect person for this question. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Because because tell us tell us describe to us in
Speaker 5: the beginning how hip hop was like frowned upon so
Speaker 5: as opposed to how hip hop has looked at now
Speaker 5: as a global ass.
Speaker 3: I was in the army. I did four years in
Speaker 3: the army. While I was in the army, the cats
Speaker 3: from New York had hip hop tapes. First generation of
Speaker 3: hip hop is unrecorded hip hop. It's tapes before ship.
Speaker 2: Of live ship, of live ship.
Speaker 3: That's the first generation. Treacher's three Funky four plus one
Speaker 3: more on them. By me being in the Army, I'm
Speaker 3: with New York niggas. New York Niggas is showing us off.
Speaker 3: They're showing off. I got tapes. I was fascinated with
Speaker 3: that ship.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's just hip this rap tapes of
Speaker 2: live live, park jams, live ship.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinating. I never heard no ship. Like facinated with
Speaker 1: the kids finding out about.
Speaker 3: Tapes, tape tape flashes on the box, I was like,
Speaker 3: fast hip, the beauty, the beauty of hip hop. It's
Speaker 3: a culture that has four entry points graffiti, breakdance, and
Speaker 3: DJ and MC and you can get in four ways.
Speaker 1: So that that really blew my mind. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: shit is stoke.
Speaker 3: Then I saw New York City Breakers on the show
Speaker 3: called That's incredible, y'all anybody remember that?
Speaker 1: Am I too?
Speaker 3: It was a show because it was a show that
Speaker 3: had different people like that could do outrageous shit. And
Speaker 3: they had the New York City Breakers and I saw
Speaker 3: break dancing. I was like fascinated because we were popping
Speaker 3: in the West coast right spending on their backs and
Speaker 3: hip hop got me. I was like, yo, I want
Speaker 3: to learn how to do this. So I come out
Speaker 3: of an army with stereo equipment. I want to throw
Speaker 3: parties like Uncle Jim's army. But I practiced rapping. I
Speaker 3: was getting more attention rapping the theory that it was
Speaker 3: going to be some way you could make money. Never
Speaker 3: no one had ever bought a car doing it, So
Speaker 3: now I'm rapping. I hooked up with these guys called
Speaker 3: the New York City spin Masters, my boy Evile.
Speaker 2: And Han G.
Speaker 1: They were from Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: They knew how to scratch, so I hooked up with
Speaker 3: them and they were doing house parties. But at the
Speaker 3: parties they would have four DJs feel Me right like
Speaker 3: on the Loo. So I would show up with them
Speaker 3: and they would actually scratch breakbeats and I would rap. Wow,
Speaker 3: I got my name on the flyer. Eventually feel Me
Speaker 3: because it was their show. The theory, I'm gonna get money.
Speaker 3: That's like I said when I met Andre Herel and them.
Speaker 3: I had a Porsche, I had jewelry. I was wearing
Speaker 3: two pages, I had a guns.
Speaker 1: The niggas like, why do you want to rap? You
Speaker 1: got it all, you got to Porsche Turbo. Why do
Speaker 1: you want to rap? I'm like, well, what I'm doing
Speaker 1: ain't gonna last. Wow.
Speaker 5: Every other wrap up didn't have that at the time,
Speaker 5: nobody had it, hadn't bought cars yet.
Speaker 1: Wow. I'm talking about eighty two. Wow. I just I
Speaker 1: just liked it. I would go wrap it.
Speaker 3: I would do just shit in the day and then
Speaker 3: show up at a club on the weekend and be
Speaker 3: a star.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I like that theory of it actually be in
Speaker 3: my money. It never could happen, but it started to happen. Now.
Speaker 3: The difference is the kids would getting in for the
Speaker 3: money and they're like, I could put this little talent
Speaker 3: into it as possible, Like we did shows before we
Speaker 3: got record deals. They get record deals before they do shows.
Speaker 3: Like you were like talent leaning, you had to have
Speaker 3: talent and I and by working in that club, I
Speaker 3: was able to wrap every weekend and get better and
Speaker 3: get better.
Speaker 1: So I never thought this was gonna last. They said
Speaker 1: it was a fad.
Speaker 3: I think when the major record label started, I was
Speaker 3: one of the first rappers ever signed to a major.
Speaker 3: I got signed to Warner Brothers, Sire Madonna's label. That
Speaker 3: was the start, and then Sire is Madonna's label. Sire
Speaker 3: No Sire was a label on Warner that Madonna was
Speaker 3: signed to. I was signed to the same level as Madonna.
Speaker 3: Talking Heads Ministry Chris, basically a punk rock label by
Speaker 3: seymour Stein.
Speaker 1: It's just passed. I inducted him into the Rock and
Speaker 1: Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: But he heard it.
Speaker 1: He told me when he signed me. He says, have
Speaker 1: you ever listened to Calypso music? I'm like no.
Speaker 3: He said, they sing about song the problems in Trinidad, this,
Speaker 3: that and the other. But he talked, here's a jewel.
Speaker 3: Seymour Stein saw me. Just because I don't understand it
Speaker 3: doesn't invalidate it. This means I don't understand it what
Speaker 3: you're singing. I know people it resonates, just maybe not me.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, make your music. I believe you sound like
Speaker 3: to me Bob Dylan. That's the only person you can
Speaker 3: connect to how genius is that to be able to
Speaker 3: say just because I don't understand it doesn't invalidate it.
Speaker 1: It just means maybe I don't like, I know, I
Speaker 1: noticed people in this world that does relate to right, Do.
Speaker 3: You understand what's what's the Korean ship? The k Do
Speaker 3: you understand it doesn't invalidated? It's not short.
Speaker 2: This is my point.
Speaker 3: But this is being an A and R guy, being
Speaker 3: that smart saying I don't understand rap, but I know
Speaker 3: it's something.
Speaker 1: Dope gave me my break. Do you think.
Speaker 5: There was a difference from the Tupac that was on
Speaker 5: Digital Underground and a Tupac that was on death Rope?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean yeah, I mean I think we can
Speaker 2: absolutely see.
Speaker 3: Pop when I'm When I first met Pocket and money
Speaker 3: Bee and all them, it was digital. You got Shakhi,
Speaker 3: who's one hundred percent different, Parliament, this, that, and the third.
Speaker 3: I didn't even recognize Pockets militant or nothing like that,
Speaker 3: just as a dancer friend cool, and when he came out,
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, that's the same dude, you know.
Speaker 3: But I couldn't disrespect him because his lyrics was deep
Speaker 3: and uh, I got to work on on Apocalypse now
Speaker 3: me and him and c on last words. So what
Speaker 3: people don't understand is I love Poc. I love Pac,
Speaker 3: but he's an artist. To me, he was just another artist.
Speaker 3: You know, people like Poc is a god but is
Speaker 3: an artist. He's like Norwy. To me, he's just an artist.
Speaker 3: So we were friends and people. Last time I was
Speaker 3: on here, I said something I said, I tried to
Speaker 3: talk to Poc, and people like, you can't talk to Poc.
Speaker 3: I'm like, POC's thirteen years younger than me, right and
Speaker 3: West Coast definitely has a peccan order. If you're a
Speaker 3: little older, motherfuckers will sit down. And uh, I had
Speaker 3: a story where Shaka came to my house. Told you
Speaker 3: that story. I lived in Hollywood Hills. A shock came
Speaker 3: on my door. I said, why the fuck are you
Speaker 3: knocking on my door? He said, I was up in
Speaker 3: the hills. I asked if any black people live up here?
Speaker 3: She said to you, they said right over there. So
Speaker 3: shot knocked them my door. We sat down and he
Speaker 3: was like, I talked to Pac man. You know, they
Speaker 3: feeding pop gunpowder pockets, like not listening to death Row,
Speaker 3: you know. And I and we had conversations. But see
Speaker 3: the thing of it is, it's like when you setting up,
Speaker 3: when you're working with a rapper, you have to get
Speaker 3: a rapper in the state of mind. Defrow was training
Speaker 3: Pack to be a killer, which you heard in the music.
Speaker 3: But like I did a thing for Mike Tyson, which
Speaker 3: is like you train a man to be a pitbull,
Speaker 3: then you get mad when he eats the furniture, you
Speaker 3: see me, So.
Speaker 1: That energy bled into the streets to his demise, right,
Speaker 1: because like.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, you would never kind
Speaker 5: of like recommend someone to get it's a gang culture
Speaker 5: because gang culture, like it's like I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Advise anybody getting streets.
Speaker 5: Like last night, last night I forgot I think his
Speaker 5: name is Nino Brown or his wistream was Nino Brown.
Speaker 5: But he said to you something like, I'm from Hoover,
Speaker 5: and you said, oh, I'm from such and such and
Speaker 5: everything that y'all spoke about. I was so lost as
Speaker 5: a person from New York, y'all. I was just looking
Speaker 5: at y'all. Andy'll said, you said over there on this ground,
Speaker 5: this ground just then, and I'm like, that's some complicated ship.
Speaker 3: So I was like, you know, what it is, Nori,
Speaker 3: if I told you a part of Queen's but you
Speaker 3: know what that block consists of. Yes, So he said
Speaker 3: he from ninety fourth and Hoover. I'm like, Yo, that's
Speaker 3: a very very hot area. But that's the Hoover criminals.
Speaker 3: But hot, I don't where I'm from. That's called out
Speaker 3: of bounds. That's not where I go. I don't know
Speaker 3: them people. My baby's mother, my daughter, my adult daughter,
Speaker 3: her mother lived on seventy fourth and Hoover, seventy third
Speaker 3: in Hoover, So I know all the hoovers. When Hoovers
Speaker 3: were crips. They used to Hoovers used to be crips.
Speaker 3: Now they anybody killers. They they were the age, the
Speaker 3: Houston hat Those are the kids that killed Pop Smoke.
Speaker 3: Oh God bless that's Hoover them, the Hoover criminal that. Ye,
Speaker 3: it's a sad. I don't know them niggas. So I
Speaker 3: was like, I just vowed down to his neighborhood, Like, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'm from the West Side. I don't know them niggas
Speaker 3: over there. That was it. Everybody knows the tough areas.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows. So when you say it if you're from there,
Speaker 3: you go, okay, okay, I know how you grew up.
Speaker 3: But he went to prison and he came back home.
Speaker 3: But he's younger than me. See, so he said, my
Speaker 3: dad might have went to school. His dad went to
Speaker 3: school two years before me. But he said, yo, I'm back,
Speaker 3: so that that resonates with us. But he's so therefore
Speaker 3: he's a little homie, so he gonna treat me accordingly.
Speaker 1: Like that's a big on me. My dad knows you,
Speaker 1: like like cool, Yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Like when I saw that last night, Like I saw
Speaker 5: two people that didn't know each other and had a
Speaker 5: whole conversation.
Speaker 1: No one else knew what y'all was talking about, and
Speaker 1: that shit was like like to me, like is that
Speaker 1: anywhere you go? Like anywhere you go?
Speaker 3: First thing I would too if you tell me you
Speaker 3: from l A. A lot of times niggas to tell me, yo,
Speaker 3: I'm from LA. I'm like what part and then they'll
Speaker 3: back down. I'm like where you're from? They be like Pomona,
Speaker 3: I'm like that ain't really La.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's like, you know, I'm from a coin or some
Speaker 3: ship like that, Like I know where to I know
Speaker 3: where the trenches are, you know, So I'm like, but
Speaker 3: where are you from? That's the quickest thing. That's what
Speaker 3: part of La where you from? Oh I'm from wood Woo,
Speaker 3: I'm on from main Street?
Speaker 1: Okay, cool? I know. Then what we'll do is we'll
Speaker 1: name off niggas.
Speaker 3: I know niggas from over. I know such and such,
Speaker 3: such and such. They're gonna blow you from sixties. I
Speaker 3: know that I know such and such, such and such.
Speaker 3: But it's dangerous because if you like now you're in
Speaker 3: that world right running to another set, Yo, who you know?
Speaker 3: Because who you know?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I know dj EFN.
Speaker 1: You'll fuck that niggas like you know, could be like
Speaker 1: that could be the wrong name, like that nigga.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody because oh shit, now you've been to name
Speaker 3: a top tier nigga, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's just LA life. Like I said earlier, LA
Speaker 1: is dangerous.
Speaker 3: So I was able by knowing being a player and
Speaker 3: moving around the different sets and learning about the shot
Speaker 3: callers and befriending them.
Speaker 1: I knew enough people just to navigate the city. I've
Speaker 1: been in. I've been out of bounds. I was.
Speaker 3: I was messing with this girl from the bottom, which
Speaker 3: is no, the bottom is the bottom. The bottom is
Speaker 3: the east side of the forties. So that's uh, that's
Speaker 3: the Pueblows. Another project called the Pueblows. Niggas over there
Speaker 3: one here ill name they called Bloodstone Villains.
Speaker 1: You ever heard of a gang called the villains? Them niggas?
Speaker 1: That name is scary, right, So.
Speaker 3: So Bsv's Bloodstone Villains. So I met a girl on
Speaker 3: the west side, a pretty girl.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: The bitch lives in the motherfucking puet blows. So she
Speaker 3: give me a number. I pull up over there in
Speaker 3: the porch with the fela whooped. He whooped, So she
Speaker 3: was fine. So I meet her one day. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: pull back up. The second time I pulled up, she goes,
Speaker 3: your niggas over here, said, they finna rob you.
Speaker 1: I said, alright, nice meeting you, bitch. I'm out. I
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 2: Pu see, No, I'm out.
Speaker 3: I'm out because if I if some happened to me
Speaker 3: over there, my crew ain't coming over there.
Speaker 1: They like, nigga, why are you way over there?
Speaker 3: So there was a shot call over there named Termite,
Speaker 3: who was the main nigga over there that was selling water.
Speaker 1: So water means dust PCP PCB, so yeah, it's what
Speaker 1: they used to make dust, so and we call it sharon.
Speaker 3: But anyway, just having the right connections and knowing where
Speaker 3: you are and this and the third. I have a
Speaker 3: story where I went I met this girl on the
Speaker 3: west side. I'm on the west side, west side.
Speaker 1: I finished that story. So what happened to you was
Speaker 1: going through?
Speaker 3: Anybody just never showed back up, he just left. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a girl, tell you yo. You know the guys over
Speaker 3: here are playing on robbing you.
Speaker 2: That's all I needed.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: To the liquor store. I'm gonna get some right quick.
Speaker 3: You're seeing me. I'm back on the other side of town.
Speaker 3: So one time I met this girl on the west side.
Speaker 3: West side is anything you got the Harbor Freeway in
Speaker 3: l A. Anything on the west side of that is
Speaker 3: the west side. Anything on the other side of that
Speaker 3: is the east side. Here's the thing, ain't ship on
Speaker 3: the east side. Ain't no businesses, ain't no hotels, ain't
Speaker 3: nothing but drama on the east side. East side, niggas
Speaker 3: wear sweatsuits with hard shoes. You ever seen the old
Speaker 3: niggas that have the sweatsuit on with the party socks,
Speaker 3: the big socks and Stacy Adams them niggas them, Niggas.
Speaker 1: Is on the east side.
Speaker 2: West Side Niggas is players.
Speaker 1: We got k swists. We fly east side Niggas is
Speaker 1: dangerous niggas like they.
Speaker 2: My man's laughing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, east side Niggas is real hard hard.
Speaker 3: So I meet a girl on the west side and
Speaker 3: she tells me she lives on ninety ninth in Success.
Speaker 3: That's on the east side of will Rogers Park in Watts.
Speaker 3: I'm in high school. I catch the bus down Crenshaw.
Speaker 3: I catch the bus down Century. If you want to
Speaker 3: find if you want to if you want to go
Speaker 3: to the jungle, get off at the La X. You're
Speaker 3: on Century. Just take Century East. You'll ridden up in Watts.
Speaker 3: But you don't you go you go west. If you
Speaker 3: go east, you'll end up in the worst part of
Speaker 3: La So anyway, I catch the bus.
Speaker 1: The bus stops at will Rogers Park.
Speaker 3: I gotta walk across will Rogers Park, dangerous Nickson Gardens
Speaker 3: there Imperial Course. So I get to the girl's house,
Speaker 3: go in her house. Her mother is sitting in one
Speaker 3: of the big reclining.
Speaker 1: Chairs, Hi, baby, you want some while like she one
Speaker 1: of the one of them hood mama's.
Speaker 3: Laid back, got the feet all swollen up, like you
Speaker 3: brought me some some drinking a mayonnaise jar. I'm in
Speaker 3: the hood. While I'm sitting there, her nigga shows up.
Speaker 3: Now I'm in the house, I'm talking to mom. Do
Speaker 3: you guys Jerry krr I had a perm don't get
Speaker 3: into it. Yeah, I'm a kid. I'm a kid Nori seventeen.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go keep it going.
Speaker 2: We in the hood.
Speaker 3: You know you in the hood, when you were in
Speaker 3: the house that got a car furniture in the house.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, send the blox the hood hood like door
Speaker 3: knobs was only one side you got to use like
Speaker 3: a key. And so the dude shows up, so she
Speaker 3: outside trying to talk to him. She got another nigga
Speaker 3: in the house. I'm sitting there with moms like, yo,
Speaker 3: this is going bad as a motherfucker, Like I got
Speaker 3: to number. There's some watch nigga outside. This is fucked up.
Speaker 3: I sat in that house literally about an hour waiting
Speaker 3: for that conversation to end. The shit and wouldn't end.
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, fuck it. I'm I'm bailing right,
Speaker 3: So I just walk out the front of the house.
Speaker 3: I walk out the house right, I walked right, passed them,
Speaker 3: I turned and I'm walking now.
Speaker 2: I'm walking right.
Speaker 3: I'm expecting to feel this like the nigga just shocking
Speaker 3: me from behind. But I'm walking like I ain't got
Speaker 3: it yet, I ain't looking back, just waiting for the book.
Speaker 1: And I made it. I walk off. They never say nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm like shit.
Speaker 3: And I got in the middle of will Rogers Park
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what in the fuck are you doing here?
Speaker 3: You don't not belong here. That was not your bitch.
Speaker 3: You could have died way over here. And I got
Speaker 3: my ass on the RTD and I went home and
Speaker 3: that was my last attempt. I love two learning lessons
Speaker 3: of being out of bounds fucking with bitches like like
Speaker 3: what this cube said, never fuck with a bitch from
Speaker 3: the projects. I learned my lesson and I made it
Speaker 3: home safe. I didn't get hit in the Earcgregors. I
Speaker 3: wasn't finna fight this dude over his girl, Like I
Speaker 3: was just like, wow, am I why am I here?
Speaker 3: Like so yeah, yeah, Sometimes you shouldn't travel too far
Speaker 3: for pussy.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't my secret shouldn't travel too far.
Speaker 2: Don't travel so far for pussy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or in someone's total different territory where you don't
Speaker 3: know nobody.
Speaker 1: But fuck that. So let me ask because.
Speaker 5: I know, I know we touched on it earlier, but
Speaker 5: there was a stigma of going commercial, right, like going
Speaker 5: to the other side, right, And what's what's double bon
Speaker 5: two is.
Speaker 1: We we don't think you went to the other side.
Speaker 1: We still believe your right right to say nigga pretty much.
Speaker 5: We're like, yo, we see play a cop on TV,
Speaker 5: but we know that Nigga might still shoot you like that.
Speaker 1: That's real. It's acting.
Speaker 3: I'm as far from a cop as you possibly could
Speaker 3: get as acting. I can act like a cop, I
Speaker 3: can act like a slave owner.
Speaker 1: I'm acting. I learned that acting is acting. Now how
Speaker 1: you perceive it. I don't really give a fuck.
Speaker 3: If you want to make the mistake and think that
Speaker 3: you know that I'm not whatever, that's that's your mistake.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: What's it? Well?
Speaker 3: I did. I did the record with r J Payne,
Speaker 3: the first first lyric because I walk around with the
Speaker 3: rocket in my hoodie pocket. Your biggest mistake is thinking
Speaker 3: I'm fake. So if that's what you choose to do,
Speaker 3: play yourself. No, man, but no, as far as being commercial,
Speaker 3: I never would do clean versions of my records. I
Speaker 3: was really adamant about not doing clean verse. Did you
Speaker 3: do clean versions?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to get that bread.
Speaker 3: I was so so so like stubborn. I thought that
Speaker 3: was selling out. And then n w A did it
Speaker 3: and they made a lot more money, but a lot
Speaker 3: of records. There's no clean versions of Ice Tea records.
Speaker 3: I still hate doing it. Even when I do body count,
Speaker 3: I do it all raw and then they like, can
Speaker 3: we clean it up? And still this seems whack to me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know you are in the business. You're
Speaker 3: trying to sell the records your ice.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 5: Man, you my brother, You've You've always been there every
Speaker 5: time I've called you. You was like one of the realists,
Speaker 5: if not the realist. And now not only that, a
Speaker 5: lot of people credit me in fact, Joe having the
Speaker 5: best stories of hip hop I learned last night.
Speaker 1: And we're not even in your lead, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So you, the big homie, are not only hip hop
Speaker 5: like you know, of course listen to another world of
Speaker 5: getting money in another world.
Speaker 1: But definitely storytelling. It's you and Slick Rick. I love it.
Speaker 3: Well, look, look one more thing. Let me promote something.
Speaker 3: Can I promote them?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 3: I'm doing an album right now called The Legend Device
Speaker 3: Ta Crime Stories, and it's from my eight albums. It
Speaker 3: has it's a triple album. It's going to be it's
Speaker 3: going to be vinyl because I want to make it
Speaker 3: special and it's all my story raps from eight albums,
Speaker 3: including five unreleased songs, and reason we titled it the
Speaker 3: Legend Device Tea is because a lot of things people
Speaker 3: believe in me is legend.
Speaker 1: It's not true.
Speaker 3: Because what I write when I write music, I write faction.
Speaker 3: I write stories based on truth. But just there's some
Speaker 3: things in there, you know, So a lot of people
Speaker 3: believe things about me it's not true.
Speaker 1: So that's the legend.
Speaker 3: The legend ices in the club, I knocked five niggas out, Okay,
Speaker 3: I knock one dude out right, but the legend says
Speaker 3: it was five. So that's part of the stigma. Like
Speaker 3: you say, of who Ice Tea is a lot of
Speaker 3: the ship's not real. But if that's what you believe,
Speaker 3: what you choose to believe. I'm like, you know, let's
Speaker 3: have fun with it. So that's why it's called the
Speaker 3: Legend Device Tea Crime Stories. It's all story rds. So
Speaker 3: people that like that part of my ship can dig it.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be dope and it should come out this year.
Speaker 3: God damn yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's come back to drink chances were promoting it.
Speaker 1: We're doing the ether. Fuck you gotta do. It makes
Speaker 1: a noise.
Speaker 3: From what you can say, it's always a treat. Yes,
Speaker 3: when play is me, it's always a treat.
Speaker 1: Before we leave. Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the fanst.
Speaker 3: Just everybody out there has supported me as fuck me.
Speaker 3: I know, in order to be an iced T fan,
Speaker 3: you had to fight, you had to deal with haters,
Speaker 3: you had to tell niggas fuck you. I like Ice
Speaker 3: and it's been a struggle to be part of my journey.
Speaker 3: But for those of you, that's just how much more
Speaker 3: gangster you are that you're willing to stand on who
Speaker 3: you fuck with. And my job has always been to
Speaker 3: make y'all proud. I know people out there got tax
Speaker 3: they got all kinds of shit. So when I fuck up,
Speaker 3: I know, I let y'all down. So I'm trying to
Speaker 3: win because I know when I win, y'all win. You know,
Speaker 3: y'all get to say that's my nigga. So that's why
Speaker 3: I always think it's bigger than me. It's I got
Speaker 3: people out there that really believe in me and fuck
Speaker 3: with me in a real way. And I've always been
Speaker 3: very proud that the niggas that fuck with me are
Speaker 3: the most real motherfuckers. The people that fuck with me.
Speaker 3: My boy said Ice, this pre prison rap and this
Speaker 3: post prison rap. Your shit is post prison rap. Motherfuckers
Speaker 3: that really been through some ship.
Speaker 1: You take a shot to that, alright, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, not a shot you. You give him some
Speaker 1: nice ship.
Speaker 2: Against the more.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Give me one more for the road.
Speaker 1: Give me some of that ship right there he was.
Speaker 3: I guess if I drink enough of that, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: put these on and walk the fun out of here.
Speaker 1: Speaks.
Speaker 2: Get the man, Hold up, Hold up, I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: the cameras.
Speaker 1: Get that. Why the cameras zooming in from the front.
Speaker 1: You gotta see her?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you see this. We take off the loop batons.
Speaker 3: It's a pimp ship.
Speaker 1: You don't know about.
Speaker 3: Niggas got this pemp ship and I'm putting on these
Speaker 3: player ships because they got me so comfortable right now.
Speaker 2: I'm so motherfuckerum.
Speaker 1: And this is how you ended out Ice with a shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I look and we are they five? So look,
Speaker 3: come on, you know what, these niggas just so used
Speaker 3: to being fake. They have no reference point to real.
Speaker 3: We here to show them, give them a reference point, right.
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