1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, O number nineteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: episode number eighty five. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 9 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: the start, it's Gumbo day. We got a lot of 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: topics to hit. We're gonna jump all around, give these 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: guys some questions to answer on the Cowboys, and we 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: want to hear from you guys. You guys, give us 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: a call. Numbers eight eight eight eight five five two 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: two nine seven. Again it is eight eight eight eight 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: five five two two ninety seven. You can also hit 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: us on Twitter. You can hit my account. It's a 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: little flooded right now, so I'm gonna try to get 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: to them, but feel free now. I'm not gonna talk, 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: but you can hit me on my Twitter account at 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton take some questions that way as well. Let's 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: jump right in. Let's talk a little bit about the 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: NFC East. Right now, Cowboys are at the top of 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: the NFC East. At six and four, they face the 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: New England Patriots. This week at New England Philly at 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: five and five, we'll be facing Seattle. I've asked this question, 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I keep asking it every week, and I want to 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: ask it again in this show to start things off, 29 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: what's your level of comfort as is where the Cowboys 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: are that they win the NFC East after what happened 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: last week? The Eagles take a lost, Cowboys get a win, 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: and then this week Cowboys are facing a much tougher opponent. 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: Eagles still have a tough opponent as well. You win 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: this game, like I've been predicting for a while, and 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles lose to the Seahawks, and I think it's 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: all but clinched. Really, yeah, what do I mean? Really? 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Just go on the road to the stadium where nobody 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: wins and be the best team in the league and 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: you clinch the division. Yeah, but those two things would 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: happen then, Yeah, you basically like I was crazy for saying, 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: really like there's a lot more football has you have 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: a whole another month, five, five and six, it'd be 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: seven and four. You have two game lead on him. 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: You're assuming they're gonna lose this weekend. And I'm saying Miami. 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm not Miami. I'm not talking about Miami's on a role. 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that about just you know, just 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: in Jural. Those two things have to happen. You lose 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: the Seattle, you're saying they lose Sattle, Cowboys win in 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: New England. It's all but done, pretty much. Tell me, 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: tell me that it wouldn't be the case. I okay, 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: I will. Well, Actually I was gonna that was Actually 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: he pushed us right into the next question because I 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: was gonna say, okay, let's look at let's think of 54 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys have here over the next five weeks. 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: The champs, I get it, they're at in New England. 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: But then that's what Cowboys do. And then they to 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Chicago's four and six. That's the easiest of these five. 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Then they play the Los Angeles Rams, who are now 59 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: six and four, and then they play the Philadelphia Eagles 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: at Philly. That's now five and five. So that's a 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: pretty tough stretch there, right, Let's let's like really walk 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: through it. So let's say, let's say the Eagles loose 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks and the Cowboys beat the Patriots. So 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: seven and four, five and six. Then the Cowboys play 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving against a Bears team that would be in 66 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, sorry, Bill's team that would be 67 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: in the playoffs if the season ended today. They're seven 68 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: and three three not saying the Cowboys can't beat them, 69 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: but that's not an easy game. Easy game Chicago in December. 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: It's a tough thing to do. I don't care how 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: good or bad the Bears are, Josh Black, Okay, even 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: still split those things. Eight and five, the Eagles beat 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: the Dolphins to climb to six and six. The Eagles 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: will beat the Giants at home to climb to eight 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: and six, So then the Cowboys they just get to 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: eight and six, seven and six. I'm sorry, So the 77 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: eight and five, seven and six. Then the Cowboys play 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: the Rams, okay, and the Eagles play the Redskins. That's 79 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: a win, that's a win of all wins. So it'll 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: come down to the Eagles and the Cowboys eight and six, 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: even if the Cowboys beat the Bears, then it's eight 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: and six verse nine to five, and the Cowboys go 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: to the link like so the Eagles are still right 84 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: there and it all comes down still to that game. 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: And this is all predicated on the Cowboys beating the 86 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: Patriots in Gillette Stadium, which I'm not saying they can't 87 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: do but would be very very impressive, right so, And really, 88 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you're silly for thinking that. But even 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: if even if what you suggest happens on Sunday, Cowboys 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: win Eagles lose, I don't think the NFC East is 91 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: remotely close to being decided, all right. I just you know, 92 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the thing that you put in there was the Eagles 93 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: getting hot, getting on a roll and all that. And 94 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: I understand that their their schedule is not I mean, 95 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: it is favorable for them, but there they would be 96 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: a five and six football team going in there and 97 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: trying to do that. And what they have shown is 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: over the most over the last I would say, ten 99 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: years or so. I understand they won a Super Bowl, 100 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: but they will tank towards the end of the year 101 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: that they've done that for the most part. So I 102 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: just don't think that they'll I mean, if they got 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: down two games, that's gonna be really hard for them 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: to come back because they're going to have to basically 105 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: run the table to get there. Down. That schedule shows 106 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: that they could, but there, I mean, they haven't proven 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: that they could do that, all right. So let's look 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: at those five games. Those next five games the Cowboys 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: have at New England against Buffalo, at Chicago against the Rams, 110 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: and at Philly. How many of those games do you 111 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: think realistically the Cowboys win, Danny, how many games is 112 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: that that's the next five games? How many think they win? 113 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: I'm going between two and three. I think this could 114 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: be the time they beat the Rams. And for some reason, 115 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: just for following the Cowboys and being a fan, I 116 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: really wouldn't be surprised if they go in and they 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: beat New England. It just it seems like a very 118 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys thing to do. I heard somebody say to radios, 119 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: a national guy sayales radio, that would be said to 120 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: cow right, it sounds like a Cowboys thing to do. 121 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: I think I don't know yet. Between Bills and Bears, 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: that's where I think they really could split. So I'm 123 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: gonna say two to three, two to three, Dave say 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: they win three of those. I think I I'm not 125 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: going to pick them to beat the Patriots. I hate 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: to spoil the Friday Show. Sorry. I know it would 127 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: be a Cowboys thing to do, but also I don't 128 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: know to something like that. It's like that's like snowballing 129 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: into the narrative where it's like, you know, somebody's like, oh, 130 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: that would be such a Cowboys thing to do, and 131 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: it's funny, and then all of a sudden you're like yeah, 132 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: and like you're not even really thinking about the actual matchup. 133 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: You're just like, that's that's what they do. So that's 134 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. And I'm not ready to say 135 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: that I think so. No, I don't think they beat 136 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: the Pats, but you know, they can beat the Bills 137 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: at home, they can beat the Bears, and between the 138 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Bills and the Rams, like they'll probably they'll split those 139 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: two games, and then the Cowboys own the East. That's 140 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: the thing. Is like, as as middling and unpredictable as 141 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: I think this team has been, Cowboys owned the East. 142 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: I have every confidence that they can go up to 143 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: Lincoln Financial Field and beat the Eagles. And that seems 144 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: like that's what it's going to come. And that's I mean, 145 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I would I would bet a paycheck that the East 146 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: will be decided by that game. Right well, you know 147 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: three if they win three games and then I don't 148 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: know why you stopped at five, because it's it goes 149 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: to six and does it. Well, that's the thing. If 150 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: they go three and two, they'll go four and two. 151 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, if they go two and three, they'll go 152 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: three through. They're gonna probably win that last game against 153 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: And really it was only because I wanted to look 154 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: at the teams that are the most that this five 155 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: game stretch, you're looking at teams that are all good teams. 156 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not playing as well as others like the Bears, 157 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: but they're still a good tea. Just remember though that 158 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: you know you're talking about the Eagles having these games 159 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: that they're definitely gonna win. Well, that's the case. The 160 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys have got that one too. So yeah, ten and six. 161 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: If you if they go three and two, like they've 162 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: just suggested, in that five games, they'll probably four and two. 163 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: That's tenants six. You're looking at a five and five 164 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: Eagles team right now that you know they have to 165 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, if they they run the table, they're gonna 166 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: have to run the table to get to eleven and 167 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: five to obviously beat the Cowboys. They're tiebreaker wise though, 168 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: they you know, if they just finished ten and six 169 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: and one of those losses is not against the NFC East, 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: Like if they lose to the Seahawks and then run 171 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: the table, yeah, they would probably win the division, right 172 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: because if the tiebreaker would go head to head, which 173 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: would be split division record, which would be splitting Yeah, 174 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: and then they I think the NFC East record, and 175 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: then they they're probably gonna have that you mean NFC record, NFC, 176 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean NFC Cowboys have lost a lot of NFC Yeah, yeah, 177 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: and they're gonnaud of the n East and they're gonna 178 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: have to come, you know, beat Seattle. Well don't men 179 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: if they lost the I don't know, I don't know 180 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: we're getting ahead, but I just this is a this 181 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: is a chance to really this is the team that 182 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles could lose to and the Cowboys. You know, 183 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: if you beat the Patriots, then you know, the parade 184 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: talks are gonna come back up again, like where are 185 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: we going to do that? So okay, so besides the 186 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: Philly game, which games you think is the most important 187 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: game for them to win? Of those five, I mentioned 188 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles. I'm sorry, I was not making the Patriots 189 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: ow it's meaning to say beside the Eagles game. We 190 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: all know how important that game is. Besides the Eagle game, 191 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: is there another game here that you like they really 192 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: need this game for whatever reason? It could be because 193 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: of tie breaks. It could also be because of just mentally, 194 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: if they lose this game, it would be so devastating 195 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: for them to lose, right, So they could be whatever reason, 196 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: What do you think is most important game for them 197 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: the win outside of the Philadelphia game? Maybe the Rams 198 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: just because they've run over the Cowboys however many times 199 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: they've played the last year, year and a half, Okay, 200 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think it's also fun when 201 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: you get to see the comparisons of quarterbacks. I like 202 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: seeing when then we play the Eagles and Dak with 203 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: Wentz and Dak with Golf, and so I think that 204 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: could be an important game for the win, for the 205 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: mental aspect of getting over that hump of just getting 206 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: destroyed by the Rams whenever you've played them. This is 207 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: gonna sound counterintuitive, but as long as they don't, they 208 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: could lose these next two games and fall to six 209 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: and six and that would make them one and three 210 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: against the AFC East, which is bad. But as long 211 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: as they don't lose any more NFC games, I don't care. 212 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care as a strong way to 213 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: phrase it. But the NFC is more important. The Bears 214 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: are probably out of it, if I had to guess, 215 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: but the Rams are right there in the wild card hunt. 216 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: And again your NFC record, I mean, if you can 217 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: beat those two teams, you salvage that. Throw in division 218 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: wins against the Redskins and Eagles. I mean as I mean, 219 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: if I had to pick, I want NFC wins over 220 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: everything else. I mean, as silly as it sounds as 221 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: the Redskins really, because that's that's what's going to keep 222 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: your division record the way it is. I mean, and 223 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: that's one they should be able to win. But I'm 224 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: just saying those you know, it's it's as important. We're 225 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: kind of saying it's easy, but it is definitely important. 226 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: And you know what Danny said, I agree with that. 227 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: With the Rams. Um you could make the you can 228 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: make the case with all of them. Really with the Bears, 229 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a long weekend after that. You know, 230 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: you need to go and get that win. If it 231 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: doesn't go down like I am predicting against the Patriots, 232 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: if they do lose to the you know, the best 233 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: team in the history of football, and and lose that game, 234 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: coming back in four days and beating the Bills and 235 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: beating finally beating a team with a winning record, because 236 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: they have not they have not beaten a team right 237 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: now with a winning record, and that just they need 238 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: to do that, and Bills would be sitting there and 239 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: it would be a good win. It's always good on 240 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: the biggest stage, Thanksgiving. I don't mean you want to 241 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: lose to the Bills. You don't want to lose the 242 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: Goldbeasley coming in there and sausened it up on you 243 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: gotta rap song for you about it. Here here you go. 244 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: All right, we gonna take our first break when we 245 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: come back from our breaker. Dave, did you give yours? Yes, 246 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: just you say in the name them. All right, We're 247 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: gonna take a first break. We're gonna come back. I 248 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about Dak Prescott and 249 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: whether he should legitimately be in the MVP in the conversation, 250 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: and if not, what could happen down the stretch that 251 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: could make him maybe make him a part of that conversation. 252 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that win come back. This is Dallas 253 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end 254 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. Back in the day. I was 255 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: the guy who always got the tough yards and that's 256 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: why I run with John Deer today. 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It is a second 286 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: second of the Break Life in the s WBC Mortgage studios. 287 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: At the start, let's jump in. We're gonna talk about 288 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott now right now, he's leading the league in 289 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: passing guards with three thousand, two hundred and twenty one 290 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: to me, having I think obviously the best career a 291 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: season in his career, but also think that if you 292 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: start comparing it across the board to the other quarterbacks 293 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: that are in the league, and certainly those that are 294 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: being discussed as MVP candidates, I think he makes a 295 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: favorable comparison in a lot of a lot of categories. 296 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: The one that's noticeably not there is number of wins 297 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: for the teams, which quarterbacks gets saddled with. So question 298 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: for you guys is do you think that Dak should 299 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: be legitimately be in the MVP conversation? No, Nine aren't 300 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: nine right now. They're six and four. They're barely above 301 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: five hundred, and they haven't had those signature wins. They 302 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: hasn't been clutched in the fourth quarter. They've beaten the 303 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: teams they're supposed to beat, and they haven't beaten the 304 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: teams that they need to beat. So and I'd think 305 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: he's got more help around him than some of those 306 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: other guys. Having a great year Pro Bowl year, for sure, 307 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's the MVP of the league. See, 308 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: that's actually I think that's That's my point that I 309 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: keep coming down on, is like there's never any nuance 310 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: when you try to have these arguments, because yes, I 311 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: think he should be in the conversation. No, I would 312 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: not vote for him to win MVP. Like I mean, 313 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: I think Trey Wingo said it last night on whatever 314 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: their show is after Money Night Football, where he's like, 315 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: he's on the short list of guys to talk about 316 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: when you're talking about MVP. He's going to the New 317 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: York for the highest I mean that's a great analogy. Yeah, 318 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: I would be happy to invite him to New York. 319 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote for him to win it, 320 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: not yet at least. I mean, for my money, Russell Wilson, 321 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: it's not even. And you make a great point, Nick 322 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: that look at the help. I mean, Dak's got Pro 323 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: bowlers at three of his five line spots. He's got Zeke, 324 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: he's got Amari Cooper, He's got a ton of help, 325 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: whereas Russell Wilson is, Oh my god, he's just drawing. 326 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just pulling rabbits out of his hat 327 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: every week. That's why I don't know if I would 328 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: for that reason, and I look at help and all 329 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: that for what Lamar Jackson is doing in Baltimore and 330 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: just kind of elevating them too. That too, he would 331 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: probably get my vote there. And I heard the guy, 332 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: I guess the guy on TV last night or might 333 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: have been Booger McFarlane that he kept pushing for Michael Thomas. 334 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, Michael Thomas is having a phenomenal and when 335 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: you didn't do that with different quarterbacks, that that right 336 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: there just proves that you're the guy, you know. So 337 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: that's a good point too. But that's the thing. But 338 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: he can still be in the conversation. That's every Like 339 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: the minute you say he should be in the conversation, 340 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: people think you're advocating for him to win. That's not 341 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Not yet, at least we look at 342 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: his numbers. He's having an incredible career season. He's leading 343 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: the league in passing yards. He's he's out of his mind, 344 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: And you're right, he hasn't done enough to win them 345 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: the games that they've won, and he hasn't pulled any 346 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: of those like really tight ones out of the fire. 347 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Can you fast forward me like a whole week or Monday, 348 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: see how he does. Yeah, if he outduels Tom Brady 349 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: and he throws for you know, three hundred yards and 350 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: they win and on that yeah yeah, then now now 351 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: either seven to four, that just beat the Patriots, have 352 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: a conversation. Yeah, yeah, now you can. You can talk 353 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: about not only that, but then he turns around and 354 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: his next two games after that are like the only 355 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: game on Thanksgiving. Everybody in the world will be watching 356 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Thursday night football. Bears. Yeah, man, I feel like not 357 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: everybody in the world watches Thursday night football, but it's 358 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: the only game on on Thursday night. He has every 359 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: opportunity in the world to really state his case. All right, 360 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw this question at you. We did 361 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: this back during training camp, Danny. You might not have 362 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: remembered this because you weren't with us at that time, 363 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: but here's what we talked about. We went through a 364 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: whole list of quarterbacks in the NFL, and we said 365 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: I thought about it all worse than Dak. Right. I 366 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: want to say, you guys may correct me on this. 367 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I want to say Dak ended up somewhere around twelve 368 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: to fifteen. Is that accurate? It was somewhere between. I thought, Yeah, 369 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: nine was the answer? Was it nine or ten better 370 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: than him? Yes? Yeah, I think it was nine or 371 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: ten that were definitively better and that kind of Okay. Yeah, 372 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: So here's my question at this point, what does deck 373 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: on We don't have to go through all the quarterbacks. 374 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: Has he now gotten into top five in your opinion 375 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: in the NFL? And I'm again we have to go 376 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: with just this year. I'm not talking about career because 377 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: obviously then you start pulling in guys that have had 378 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: long careers, if won super Bowls, all that kind of stuff. 379 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this year. Is he a top five quarterback? 380 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: How he's played in the NFL? I'm not ready to 381 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: put him at five in the five. Give me five 382 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: that are better Pat Mahomes, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Drew Brees. 383 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: This year, I mean, if if we're playing one game 384 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: with the universe on the line, Yeah, that's what I mean. 385 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: That's like when I think about this, that's what I'm thinking, 386 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: like one game to win the Super Bowl. You're picking 387 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: like it's a playground. One game. Okay, Drew, I'll take 388 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: Drew Brees right now. If the case, you're probably still 389 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: going to take Brady no that kind of year. Yeah, no, 390 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, Matt Ryan, guys like that. Like 391 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: that's where it gets stuff. Really, what you're asking is 392 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: is he is he gonna be in the Pro Bowl? 393 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean all that kind of what I'm really trying 394 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: to figure out is based on how he's played this year? 395 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Is he a top five caliber quarterbacks? That's the best 396 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: quarterback this year? Lamarmar Jackson, Russell Russell one of those 397 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: two that's one in two Watsons forgot about Dean You 398 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: should be playing better than him. I think overall, I 399 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: would say they're about the same in my opinion. They're 400 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: about at the same level in my opinion. Put them 401 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: and that's now, and that's like even I don't put 402 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson definitively above Dad just well, I've I've heard 403 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: that before too. I mean, I mean, there is a 404 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: changing dynamic to the quarterback position about it. And also 405 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: I looked at this the other day. Top five offenses 406 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: in the league. Top five offenses in the league have athletic, 407 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks that happened to be African American. But I'm 408 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: just saying DeShawn Watson, Lamar Jackson, Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson, 409 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: Dak Press. The position has changed. Yeah, those guys right 410 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: there now, they're throwing the ball. It's not like it's 411 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: you know, Lamar's different beasts altogether. But I don't think 412 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: it's coincidence. Those five guys are mobile and mobile. But 413 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: but I mean Mahomes is getting done with his arm, 414 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: and so is Dak right now, really so and Russell 415 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: as well. Like Russell, Yeah, Russell's probably the smartest quarterback 416 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: that i've I mean, he is just so smart and 417 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: how he plays between the run, when he runs and 418 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: when he doesn't, how he gets down like he is 419 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: just a phenomenally smart quarterback. Probably are five right there, right, Yeah, Yeah, 420 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned Matt Ryan, but that's okay, Lamar Jackson, Matt Ryan, uh, 421 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson like I know he's hurt, but Matt Stafford, 422 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: like all of those guys are really great quarterbacks that 423 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: I would not definitively take over Dak right now. That's 424 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: again Green Bay. We're leading to. Oh I kind of set. Yeah, 425 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: he's up there. He should be up there. Rogers when 426 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: we were talking about you were when Dave was saying, 427 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, those clutch moments, one game on the line, Yeah, 428 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: I would take Rogers, Rogers and Brady Rogers, Bradys. You 429 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: can't help but do that my homes Wilson. I think 430 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: those are the only five that I'm definitively ready to say. 431 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: And then and take into account the fact that Brady's 432 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: forty one, Dak is twenty six and a half, like, 433 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: that's obviously important. I certainly you know, if I'm building 434 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: a team, I wouldn't take Tom Brady over Dak Prescott, 435 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: not even close. Okay, So that being said, if we 436 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: all agree that he's in that six to eight range, right, 437 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: if we can agree on that right now, based on 438 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: where he is this season, top ten for sure. I 439 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: personally said before the season, not having a contract doesn't 440 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: really change anything. Ultimately, the amount of money he was 441 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: going to get is what he's gonna get, both on 442 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys side or on his side. I don't think 443 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: he loses his value. I don't think he necessarily gains value. 444 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: But the caveat that we're now saying is that he's 445 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: playing out a level where at least people are having 446 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: the conversation about him as an MVP candidate, right, has 447 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: he earned some money here in your minds or would 448 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: you be one if you were making that decision, would 449 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: you be willing to pay him more money than you 450 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: were willing to pay him three months ago? I would 451 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: say yes. And when I see that, I see kind 452 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: of what we saw in this last game specifically, is 453 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: when you don't have the run game, he can make 454 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: the passing game work. And that was not consistent last year. 455 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: And so I think seeing that jump from last year 456 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: to this year and seeing that he can really carry 457 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: this offense when he doesn't necessarily have zech to rely 458 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: on to get the run game going for whatever reason 459 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: that could be, that's why I think he's more deserving 460 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: now than he was three months ago, because we've seen 461 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: he can make it work. Well, let me ask you 462 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: this question real quick. Before you did, I want to 463 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: ask you this question. Is that a situation though, that 464 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: maybe he's getting it to work because attentions being more 465 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: paid to the running game And if teams did the 466 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: flip and say it, okay, we're gonna stop, we're going 467 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: to play more coverage, could he still be able to 468 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: move the offense if he didn't have a running game 469 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: or if he didn't or if he's facing a team 470 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: that was going to play a lot more coverage, because 471 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: it's a difference there, right, But then he's still the 472 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: quarterback that's handing the ball off to Zeke, and Zeke's 473 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: the guy running in and all that. I mean, it 474 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: is a classic pick your poison type of offense that 475 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: they've gotten right now that they're they're killing them. But 476 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: when you start talking about again, when you start talking 477 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: about a guy like a Russell Wilson, if we're going 478 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: to talk about categories and quarterback, the difference with Russell 479 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: Wilson is he doesn't have a big time running back. 480 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean he has some good running backs, he didn't 481 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: have a big time running back, and he doesn't have 482 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: huge receivers like he's got some good ones, not great receivers. 483 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: So you look at it from that standpoint, and he's 484 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: able to make that offense go. So you can pick 485 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: your poison at the end of the day, that quarterback 486 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: has ability to be in no matter what. Trying to 487 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: make him higher, you know, a higher paid quarterback than 488 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because he hasn't done what Russell has done 489 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: in the postseason at all. I don't know. I don't 490 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: know why how his his agents can even argue that 491 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: they will somehow, but I don't think they can. Well, 492 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: that's that's where it comes in, though, is I don't 493 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: really feel much differently about it, And I think that 494 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: probably depends on where you were three months ago. Three 495 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: months ago, I said, Dak's going to get paid at 496 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: or near the top of the market just because he's 497 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: the next quarterback that's up. And that's how this works, 498 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: does it? Though? Because Goff got a new deal, Wentz 499 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: got a new deal, they were not at the top 500 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: of the market. Now were around that I said at 501 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: or near and where I mean they come in at 502 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: like third and fourth, like Russ is at thirty five, 503 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: and I think Ben is slightly below that. Keep in 504 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: mind Ben's deals a lot different. It's like a two 505 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: year deal because he's much older. So in terms of 506 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: like young guys, Daks certainly, just by nature of economics, 507 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: he would have come in above Golf and Winz, Like 508 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: if he had signed in August, he would have been 509 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: above those guys. So I never had any beef with that. Now, 510 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: if you're one of those people that was like, he 511 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: needs to settle for twenty eight or thirty because that's 512 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: who he is and he needs to shut up and 513 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: be happy about it and blah blah blah. If you're 514 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: one of those people, then he's absolutely lost gained money 515 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: over the last three months. But now do I think 516 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: from where I was thinking, like a somewhere between thirty 517 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: two and thirty four, do I think he has earned 518 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: more money to the point where now we're talking about 519 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: like topping Russell Wilson hitting the forty mark that we 520 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: all said was a joke. I want to see how 521 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: this plays out. Would you give him thirty five or 522 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: thirty six right now? Yeah? Yeah, probably because we would. 523 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: But I want to see the argument. I want to 524 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: see where the season goes. I want to see him 525 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: do what he did against Detroit, against great teams, and 526 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: I want to see him will this team deep into 527 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs, not because nobody else around him is any good, 528 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: but because he's that much better. Elevate your team, Elevate 529 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: the team to a level the Cowboys haven't been to 530 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: get him to the NFC Championship game. Throwing for three 531 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: fifty four hundred, you can have forty if you want it. 532 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: I will say this yeah. I will say this though, 533 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: if you look at his trajectory, and we've talked about 534 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: this a lot with Deck, from where he started to 535 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: where he is now, every year he gets better and 536 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: better and better. And you look at guys like Russell Wilson, 537 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: they'll start off their career and they may be in 538 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: a situation where the team is really focused on having 539 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: a great game, focus on having a really good defense, 540 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: and at some point it starts to flip. We may 541 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: be right now witnessing that flip that at some point 542 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: a year or two years from now, the Cowboys have 543 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: to make the decision because all the money comes due 544 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: that Hey, you know, maybe we can't invest as much 545 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: as we invest in our offensive line or in our 546 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: running back position. Maybe we need to really just focus 547 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: on the fact that we're gonna have a great quarterback. 548 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: And he's starting to look more and more like at 549 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: some point he may be that caliber of player. So 550 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: getting him at thirty five right now may actually end 551 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: up being a bargain for you if he continues along 552 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: this trajectory. We don't know that, but if he continues 553 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: along the strector. But that's why a deal is probably 554 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: not going to get agreed to right now, like true, 555 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys might be like, yeah, okay, we'll pay. 556 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: We'll pay you thirty four to thirty five right now, 557 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I know you will, but but 558 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: I want I want more. And I got seven and 559 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: six seven maybe more games to prove that I'm worth it. 560 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: So things did change, and I didn't personally think things 561 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: would change much during the season, but I do think 562 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: the way he's played, he certainly thinks I'm sure his 563 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: representatives think thinks that things have changed and they will 564 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: be negotiating under that. I think his floor has risen 565 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: since the season started, because again in August, we were 566 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: probably saying somewhere between thirty and thirty three, and now 567 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, thirty four is the absolute lowest I could 568 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: ever see, but it'll probably be higher than that. Yeah, 569 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: because he's out playing the two guys I got those 570 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: deals that they're went. You know, it's drastic ru Rustlers, 571 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: wins and golf. Those are the two guys that he's 572 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: playing and and and out playing right now, right are 573 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: we gonna take our final break? 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I'm just kidding. 602 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: She's trying out about a hour ago. Dallas Cowboys one 603 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: Party presented at eight by ANT and T on Sunday, 604 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: November twenty four. It's gonna be a festive game day 605 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: atmosphere on the Tostitos Championship Plaza at the Star in 606 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: Frisco as the Cowboys take on the New England Patriots, 607 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: and mission and parking are free as at the Star 608 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: and Frisco dot Com. One hundred percent chance of rain. 609 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Just kidding, it'll be fun, just you know, And I 610 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: don't I don't know if I'm supposed to be saying 611 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: this on air, but I'm gonna say it anyway, just 612 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: so fans know. So I might get a call after this. 613 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: But um, from what I hear, they're actually gonna make 614 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: this thing really really cool. They're gonna try to create 615 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: they recreate all of the elements that they put in. 616 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: If anybody's ever been to the Ben too At and 617 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: T Stadium for games, all the elements that they put 618 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: into the game really makes a lot of fun, between 619 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: the big board and the kind of stuff they put 620 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: on the board, and how they have these special sounds 621 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: for certain things that happened in the game, you know, 622 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: the howl whenever Land vander Esh does something specially. They're 623 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna do a lot of those kinds of elements. They're 624 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of people like the DCC and 625 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: R and B dancers, and I mean just the whole night. 626 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: It is going to be a pretty festive atmosphere. So 627 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: if you've got kids, especially like for adults, sometimes you 628 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: just want the game, But if you got kids and 629 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: they're into it and they need the extra excite excitement 630 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: for them to get into it, like this is gonna 631 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: be a really really cool way to watch a game 632 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: if you're not at the stadium, which obviously when we're 633 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: on the road, you're not at the game. So I 634 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: think it's really cool. If I were here, I would 635 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: probably get my kids and force them to come out 636 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: here with me to watch it. But I do think 637 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: it'd be a cool event if you get a chance 638 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: to come out to come check it out, because it'll 639 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: be pretty cool. All right, let's get back in, Let's 640 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: get some questions. We got some phone calls and number 641 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: eighty eight eight five five two two ninety seven. We 642 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: got a call from Kyle in Austin. Kyle, what up, Hey, hey, hey, 643 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: hey up a long time listener. I'm big fan of 644 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: all the shows. Appreciate you guys. Thank you. Uh you know, 645 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: it makes them drive to work every day a whole 646 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: lot easier. We appreciate it. And I will say this, 647 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, Dak's playing playing well. You know, I don't 648 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: think he's uh the MVP as of this point. There's 649 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: some games that he's made some mistakes, you know, and 650 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: we went down to New Orleans game you know with 651 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: the Star Sports Tours put the plug in for those guys. 652 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: They're fantastic. Yeah, but he has got to there's there's 653 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: just a couple of mistakes that he makes and I think, yes, 654 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: he progresses, he will be there, but I don't think 655 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: he's had that MVP. Let yet as of yet, and 656 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: they built a team around him that is a Super 657 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: Bowl contending team and some of those other guys desertial effect. 658 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson doesn't have that, that's for sure, and Patrick 659 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes doesn't have that. So I've had to put those guys. 660 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: Eve Lamar actually higher than him on the MVP talk. Yeah, 661 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't disagree, well, they don't disagree at all there, 662 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: but you know, being in the in the conversation is good. 663 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: That's where you want your quarterback to be. The one 664 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: thing that I think that the Cowboys need to do better. 665 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: And Dad, this goes with Dad. They have got to 666 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: figure out ways to pass the ball from the seventy 667 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: yard line, from the nine yard line, from the three 668 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: yard line, because if they're not gonna be able to 669 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: run it in, they still have to figure out ways 670 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: to to get that blocked better and scheme it open. 671 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: You know. I mean last night you watch the Chargers, 672 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: they went for two down nine. Don't understand that I 673 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: didn't think that was a good idea with a minute 674 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: to go in the third quarter, down nine because if 675 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: you don't get that, then now you're you're guaranteeing that 676 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: you have to go down twice and score. But they 677 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: drew up a play that they probably knew was going 678 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: to work one thousand percent and it did. And tight 679 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: end was wide open or what maybe one of the 680 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: tight end, Yeah it was. But I'm just saying they've 681 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: got better with passing the ball in there, and I 682 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: think that goes with Dak and that goes with Kellen 683 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Moore and all that. That's the one knock, I think, 684 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,239 Speaker 1: because when you get down there and you're not going 685 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: to run it in from the four yard line on 686 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: third and goal. They haven't proven that they could do that. 687 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: And the beauty is they have the talent on the 688 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: field to really be able to do some interesting scheme 689 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: things when you start thinking about all the different parts 690 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: they could use, between Pollard and Zeke and Dak being 691 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: able to run versus throw, and then the receivers that 692 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: you have and then the tight end, like they have 693 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: a lot, they have lots of options to where they 694 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: can create these interesting scenarios where defenses really have to 695 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of choose which way they're gonna go, and in 696 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: making a choice, something's gonna come open, right It Just 697 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: you're right, they're gonna have to just figure out how 698 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: to use those things and how to have what they 699 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: do this week build on what they can do next 700 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: week and the week after and the week after, because 701 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: that's how you you ultimately get people to bite on 702 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: things you want to do you want to be able 703 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: to do. Right. All right, let's take another call. We 704 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: got a call from Bobby in Oklahoma. Bobby, what up? Hey, guys, 705 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Problem. I wanted to quickly 706 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: tell you about two or three things I'm expecting Sunday, 707 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: and once your opinion on knowing the team and the 708 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: coach we're gonna play, I think the number one thing 709 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: is they will figure out a way to take advantage 710 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: of our poor special teams. I don't know if it'll 711 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: be a turnover, if it'll be a muff, if it'll 712 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: be a return, but Bill Belichick is just too good 713 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: at exploiting your weakness, and along that line, I think 714 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: I would expect it's out of their norm and I 715 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: would expect a heavy run game of power. Dallas had 716 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: problems stopping that this year, and until they show they 717 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: can stop it, Bill Belichick has proven that he will 718 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: continue to do something to you stop it and then 719 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm worried about some of those imp throws that that makes, 720 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: like the one that Slay missed on the interception. They 721 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: got too good a cornerbacks that want instance, So I'm 722 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: just worried about coaching and discipline in this game above 723 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: all out. I'm just wondering your thoughts. All right. I 724 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: watched that game. We were flying back. We got to 725 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: watch some of the Eagles Patriots game, and they just 726 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: don't have They just make smart plays. I mean, they 727 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: are a smart football team. They don't beat themselves, and 728 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: they don't miss opportunities, don't And one thing that I 729 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: watched in that game is every time the Eagles, even 730 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: when they caught the ball, man, those guys are all 731 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: over them. They cover really well. So, yeah, those corners 732 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: as at mccordy and Gilmore are those are the two corners. 733 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: And then well they have a mccordy at safety, Tamoth Brothers. Yeah, 734 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,479 Speaker 1: but those those corners are good. And you know, Slay 735 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: is good. They just they got they got fortunate in there. Um. Now, 736 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: you listen to Amari talk after game, he said he 737 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: knew he wasn't gonna be able to get that ball 738 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: because of the trajectory. I mean, your eyes tell you 739 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: something different, because it looked like it went straight through 740 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: his hands. But he said, based on the trajectory, he 741 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: didn't think he had a shot to make that play. 742 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: I was kind of saying that yesterday too, the way 743 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: his body turned that Yeah, with Dak facing Yeah, I'm 744 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: as saying there's no way he could have made that play. 745 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: He didn't think. That's why he knew it would get 746 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: to him. But you know who knows. The cliche with 747 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots is that they are you know, it really 748 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: is a cliche, but it's true. Is like they're gonna 749 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: take away the best thing you do and make you 750 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: beat them another way. I'm curious what that means. Yeah, 751 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: Like what do they think. Are they going to load 752 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: up on Ezekiel Elliott? Are they gonna just go out 753 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: of their way to double Amari Cooper and make the 754 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: other receivers step up the way they did against Detroit? 755 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, which it's a little bit harder 756 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: for a quarterback, but are you going to clog and 757 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: cover and just not give Dak any throwing lanes? Like? 758 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: What do the Patriots think is the Cowboys best bet 759 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: to beat them? And I don't necessarily know. I will 760 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: say this. The one thing you seem to notice watching 761 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: the Patriots is it's not like other teams where they 762 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: come in with their game plan and that's what they're 763 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna do, or maybe you can just do that for 764 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: a half. They had just it seems like from series 765 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: to series. So the first series, he could be, hey, 766 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: we noticed the Cowboys love to run. On their first series, 767 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna stop the run and make them do something else. 768 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey we noticed by the time they figure out the 769 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: run isn't working, they start going to a march. So 770 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: the second series, we're gonna stop the mark. Like, I 771 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: just think this coach is on a whole different level 772 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: when it comes to how he prepares his team and 773 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: how they morph game to game and within games to 774 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: what they do. I mean, how often do you see 775 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: teams that go from three four to four three in 776 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: games like they do that. These guys run like a 777 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: one six four. It is crazy and it goes against 778 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: what Jason Garrett's philosophy is. And that's you know, that 779 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: philosophy of we do what we do that gets your 780 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: ass kicked against guys like this, because he's like, please, 781 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: do what you do because I fixed it. I know 782 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: how to beat it. And if you're just gonna be 783 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: hell been on doing that, then you're not gonna win. Now. 784 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: I know that it's a little bit more than that. 785 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have made adjustments. You can't say that they don't. 786 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: They're one of the best teams in the third quarter 787 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: this year, they come out of halftime. They've been making adjustments. 788 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: But this is it's going to be on a different 789 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: level here. And I think David makes a great point 790 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: like that. I'm sure Belichick, you know they have an answer. 791 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: But if you say, well, you know, we can't let 792 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: Dak beat him, we're going to have to make sure 793 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: that he doesn't get that, Well, that's kind of what 794 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have won it all along. Yeah. I also 795 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: like that point of the phone call about special teams. Yeah, 796 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked enough about how inconsistent special 797 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: teams has been, both when they've been returning and when 798 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: they've okay, been punting. So what do you think is 799 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: the biggest problem for special teams right now? You can 800 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: throw out punt returns, you could throw out field goals, 801 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: you could throw all coverage units. What do you think 802 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: is the biggest channel? Here is something I wonder about. 803 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: I want to clarify this too. Think about Tony Pollard. 804 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: Somebody actually asked Garrett about it yesterday and he clarified 805 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: he had two really memorable kick returns. He messed up 806 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: the opening kick he tried to or yeah it was 807 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: or was it the going yeah? The kick after the 808 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: Lions touchdown he sort of tried to kneel on the 809 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: half yard line and realized that which But the one, 810 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: the second one in the fourth order, was actually a 811 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: great play by Tony, like he played that the way 812 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: he was supposed to. They were basically trying to have 813 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: their kick and eat it too. They didn't want to 814 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: run a full hands team, but they didn't want to 815 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: run a true kickoff team, so they basically were like, 816 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: just get up on the five and if it goes 817 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: over your head, then you say kick and needed too. 818 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. You didn't get that, I I said, cake, 819 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: But he did it without even pausing. You know, sometimes 820 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: you'll pause it can catch it, but he didn't. I'm 821 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 1: not as clever as y'all think I am. I didn't 822 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: do that on It was good either way it went 823 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: over his head and just took a fantastic bounce like 824 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, nine out of ten times that goes through 825 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: the end zone and it's not a big deal. The 826 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: main point, though, is I wonder if the Patriots see 827 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: that and try to exploit a rookie running backs decision 828 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: making process like sky the ball and try to have 829 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: it bounce inside the five, try to make him make 830 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: a judgment on whether or not he needs to come 831 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: out to feel it. I wonder if that could bite. 832 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: And that's the kind of stuff that Belichick does. He 833 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: looks for those kinds of sometimes weaknesses that other people 834 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: don't really recognize, and he says, I'm gonna test this. 835 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: I'll just test it and let's see what happens. And 836 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: sometimes it pays off big dividends for them. I mean 837 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: they are gonna be I think they're gonna be going 838 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: for the ball. After Zeke had that fumble last week. 839 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna be looking for opportunities. There's been two games 840 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: this year, games where jeekes giving it up. I think 841 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: they look at that and say, hey, there's an opportunity 842 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: for us to get turn offs. And this defense is 843 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: really good at getting turned and in the start of 844 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: the game. We see I mean so many slow starts. Yep. 845 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, injuries have certainly hurt that 846 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: special teams. It always does. I mean, that's that's where 847 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: the trickle down is when you've got backups that now 848 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: have to play and start and then all of a 849 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: sudden you have backups and special teams and that's where 850 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: the kind of confusion comes into play. So it's not 851 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: an excuse. That's what good teams have that they they 852 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: have they figure out ways to do that. But I 853 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: think injuries by far have been a contributing factor to 854 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: the to the special team's issues. But doesn't matter, No 855 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: one cares. You got to clean it up this week 856 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: and you should have heathback. Yeah that's nice, but you know, 857 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: kick the ball out of the end zone. I mean 858 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: that kick it out of the end zone and the 859 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: easier said than done, especially outside, But they're gonna have 860 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: to do that. And this guy can make a sixty 861 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: three yard field goal without a tea. He needs to 862 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: be able to get get that ball out and not 863 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: make it an issue. And maybe when it's it might snow. 864 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: It might be snowing at this game. I don't know, 865 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: if y'all have looked at the forecast, it's like it 866 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: won't be at the watch party. Thank you, Danny. Well, 867 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, will we wish it's snow is in 868 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: the forecast in Foxboro there's a low of twenty six. 869 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if it will be snowing during the game. 870 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: The point being, I don't think that I would try 871 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: very many super long field goals in these elements. That's hey, 872 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: that's what I was getting at. We'll see, I mean, 873 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: well that's been you know, one of those things we'll 874 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: see in pregame warm ups and you know, I'm sure 875 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: one way it will be different than the other. But yeah, 876 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of different things with the special 877 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: teams unit. You know, it's been the punt, it's been 878 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: punt coverage. It's it's you have to wonder how much 879 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: is the execution or just communication. I don't know if 880 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: that's been a major issue. I mean, obviously the last 881 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: couple of weeks we've talked about that a lot. I 882 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: think is mostly communication, but it's sometimes when you keep 883 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: these players in the you know as your third team, 884 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, whatever receiver, tied end, lineman, whatever you know, 885 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: you're keeping them for their for their ability to play 886 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: that position, but they become a liability when you have 887 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: to play them on special teams. And that's that's been 888 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: something that it's always a tough balance. Is this guy 889 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: going to be on the team because of special teams 890 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: or is the on the team because in some two 891 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: or three years we think he's going to be a 892 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: really good player at this position, But right now we 893 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: got to have a play special teams. People used to 894 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: get so mad because it seemed like when rich Bisaccio 895 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: was here, he had like seven guys on the team. 896 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: We're just here to play special teams, and it used 897 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: to aggravate people. But your special teams were pretty good, right, 898 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: all right, appreciate you guys joining us back tomorrow for 899 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: Nick Even, Dave Hellman, Danny Serek. I am Derek Heelton. 900 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 901 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 902 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.