1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Beca Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast. 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. I don't know if 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: you could tell, but that is not Tanya. We have 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: a special guest filling in for Tanya as my co 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: host today, we. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: Have Susie Evan. 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining. 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: I was like, I knew Tanya was going out of town, 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: and I thought, who would I want to chat with 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: for around forty minutes? And flattered, I know, And I 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: also was like, I don't know, really, your freedom of 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 2: being able to chat right now, right now? Yeah? So 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: I reached out with fingers crossed and it worked out. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: So I'm so happy you're here. 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: Me too, I know. My manager was like, do we 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: need to get this approved? We should we just do it? 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like we should. 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: Like I'm such a rule follower again, It's like we 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: should do we should just find out And then they 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: were like. 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. I was like, great, Okay, let's do it. 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: They're pretty strict with their rules, yeah they be. 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm just so scared of like getting sued every day. 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, I was. I really lived with a 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: lot that fear for a long time. Literally, I would 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: say five years in I was still scared they were 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: gonna sneak. Did I do anything? 30 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: I don't think so, I know. 31 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I constantly feel guilty. 32 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: I'm like, can they like go back through my posts 33 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: in every interview for the past five years and search 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: for something? 35 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: I don't know? 36 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: Maybe, how are you doing? 37 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: You've had a whirlwind. 38 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: I've had a whirlwind. I'm fine now. 39 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: I wasn't fine for a little bit, but I'm like 40 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: totally fine. 41 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Now what was it? 42 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: Was it just the anxiety because I was watching your 43 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: Instagram stories and it was like friends and it was 44 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: just like dark dark time. But I was thinking, I 45 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: remember that feeling of And I don't know that anyone 46 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: can understand unless you have had a specific like reality 47 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: TV experience, right, specifically a dating reality TV experience. Yes, 48 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: so real, because you are not in control over what 49 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: they show in terms of what what scenes or conversations 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: you had or clips that you where you said certain things. 51 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: So you're just really hoping for the best for the best. 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will say I've had both times the 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: show aired I was. I was super anxious about it, 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: and this time, I would say even more so than 55 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: the first time, even though I would say the first 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 4: time there was way more room for like chopping things 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: up and like making me look a certain way, and 58 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: I was just kind of like, well, we'll see what happens. 59 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: But it was still anxious, but. 60 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: This time it was literally I was there for twenty 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 4: four hours, and the anxiety I felt from leaving until 62 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: it airing like I have not been this anxious since 63 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: I literally gone anxiety medication in twenty eight when I 64 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: thought I would, like I literally convinced myself that I 65 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: was dying. No I know, and and that was like 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: like staying up late like panic attacks like that was 67 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 4: like my pre bachelor era, and literally my life got 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: so much better. I like went to therapy, you know, 69 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: dealt with anxiety, and I'm like, I'm I'm a champ 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: at this, Like I have the tools and my toolkit. 71 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: No I didn't. I didn't have the tools. 72 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: So it was like, really, I don't know why this 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: time in particular, it was so there was so much 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: anxiety about it for me. 75 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: I also think there's something about being naive going into 76 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: a situation, and you literally kind of said, like, we'll 77 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: see what happens. And it's kind of a care free 78 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: attitude because you really don't know what to expect. You 79 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: don't know till you know. Yeah, And so this time 80 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: you knew there was like a very big storyline I 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: know going in that you knew really right. 82 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't think it would be This is where 83 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: I was naive going in. 84 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be that big of a deal. 85 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: Like I knew there was gonna be a little bit 86 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 4: of like ex drama whatever. But me and Justin were 87 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: so like before we went, we were like in no contact, 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: and then we both knew that the other one was 89 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: probably gonna gok. We reached out right before the show. 90 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: We had a conversation, what's you know, fair to talk about? 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: What's not fair to talk about? There's so much love 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: there that we were like, we don't want to hurt 93 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 4: the other person, Like we don't want to like air 94 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 4: out and nobody wants their dirty laundry eared out, Like 95 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: nobody wants to like talk about, you know, the things 96 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: that didn't work in a relationship. So we were just like, 97 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: let's just like protect each other, go have fun. It's 98 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: like kind of I mean, for most people, once in 99 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: a lifetime experience and it's like just so fun. 100 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: I did not think it would like blow up the 101 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: way that it did. 102 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 4: I just was like, yeah, whatever, Like again, it was 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: naive to think, I guess, but I was like. 104 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it's fun. 105 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: You were pretty emotional, like right off the bat that 106 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: we saw, I guess in the conversation with him, And 107 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: were you shocked by that or did you know that 108 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: it was going to be emotional coming in and being 109 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: in like a dating environment with him. 110 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 4: I think, well, okay, So I mentioned this on a 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 4: different podcast as well, nixt podcast. I feel like this 112 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: is kind of where it is like up to the 113 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: discretion of the show to show what they want. Like 114 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: I I feel like it looks like I was just 115 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: like so sad and I was like, oh, like this 116 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 4: is really hard, but like I feel like I showed 117 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: up and I was like. 118 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: Last actually, it's like I was so ready to have 119 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: fun and then everybody was like, you know what, it's 120 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: actually been such a long day and like we're just tired, 121 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: and I was like wait, I was like I just 122 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: got here. 123 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: Like everyone's tired, everyone's going to bed. I was like, 124 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: people are out on a date, and like people are 125 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 4: bummed because their guys got taken on dates. And I 126 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: was like, nobody wants to like have fun right now. 127 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: Everyone's like waiting to get told that we can. 128 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Go to bed. 129 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: And I was literally, by the way, I got picked 130 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: up from my hotel at nine thirty pm, Oh dang, yeah, 131 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: And so I don't know what time I arrived there, 132 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: and but I just know everyone was tired, and I 133 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: was like, what the heck. 134 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to play, like I literally 135 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: want to like come have fun. 136 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: And I was like I came in on such a buzzkill, 137 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: and I think I realized very quickly. I was like, okay, 138 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: there's like three dudes here like that, because two of 139 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: the guys were out on a date, and so I 140 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 4: was like, okay, there's literally Dale, my ex, my ex's 141 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: friend Jonathan, which he's my friend too, but like you. 142 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: Know, off limits. 143 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: And then who. 144 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: Else was Oh Spencer, And I was like Spencer very 145 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: obviously like locked in. I felt like dam I felt 146 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: like locked in. I was like, he's not even look 147 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 4: in my direction. 148 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: Dale seemed kind. 149 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: Of locked into and I've met Dale three times before 150 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 4: and he's never remembered me. So I was like, I 151 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: don't think he's interested. Yes, I'm pretty sure. Even on Paradise, 152 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: it was like nice to meet you, and I was like, 153 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: I posted a picture with you on my Instagram story, like, 154 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: so I was like, there's no one here for me. 155 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: I was like so sad, and like I was just 156 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: like bummed. I was like, oh, I'm going home, and 157 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: like I just spent the past two months walking an 158 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: hour every single day, like literally I have been like 159 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: putting spray tan on, like trying out every makeup haack 160 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: in the book. Like I was so prepared to like 161 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: live my best life. And I was like, I'm going home. 162 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: And so then and right before coming, I had just 163 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: gotten some blood work done for freezing my eggs, and 164 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: I like got I literally when I landed in Costrica, 165 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: got back information. So in that first conversation with Justin, 166 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: I like shared with him that info about my eggs, 167 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: which is very emotional for me. I feel like I 168 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: cry every time I talk about it. And it was 169 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: nothing like crazy or tragic, but it was just like, 170 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: oh dang, like I'm dealing with this new chapter of 171 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: my life. 172 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: And like, it's just a lot, and so. 173 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: Then of course, which I wouldn't expect the show to 174 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: air that, but then of course, like I get emotional, 175 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 4: I'm like, it's just a lot, and that's what makes 176 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: the cut, you know, which is fair, Like they why 177 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: would they show like a thirty minute conversation we had 178 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: of me talking about my eggs. 179 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it is kind of it is kind 180 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: of interesting because y'all were together, so it is it 181 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: could have been a good interesting conversation, but of course 182 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: it made it feel y'all's breakup was a lot more 183 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: heavy for you, well honestly for both of you. 184 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: Because I felt like he was emotional too. 185 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 2: So it just felt like to me as a viewer, 186 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: even though I've talked to you and seen you in 187 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: person and like kind of know the timeline of y'all's 188 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: relationship and stuff, I as a viewer was like, oh 189 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: my god, why are they not together anymore? There's a 190 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: lot of like heaviness and sadness but love for each other. 191 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's probably true. Yeah, that's probably 192 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,239 Speaker 1: very true. 193 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: If he had if he and Lexi had stayed and 194 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: like dated and then you were still trying to find someone. 195 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: How would you have felt watching him date someone else? 196 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: I felt fine, Oh yeah, like I and I thought Lexi, 197 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 4: we actually thought it was so funny like this the 198 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 4: day I woke up and we all got ready, we 199 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: came out, me and Lexi were both wearing like cherry swimsuits. 200 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: I was like, we are very similar. Like this is 201 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: actually making a lot of sense. 202 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, okay, and so yeah, I feel 203 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: like I don't know, I didn't feel weird about it 204 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: at all. I was like, Lexi's great. I think Justin 205 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: and I went through a lot in our relationship. We've 206 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: both grown so much and like poured into like healing 207 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: and being in therapy and like doing things to like 208 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: make ourselves better partners for the future. So I was like, 209 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: if you found somebody, like, I really didn't feel weird. 210 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I think I was 211 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: just emotional. 212 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: Maybe this is really lame to say, but I was like, 213 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 4: I was really emotional because I was like, oh, I 214 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: got the short end of the stick and I'm going home. 215 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: Yes, you're just selfish. 216 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: But I do though they brought you in with an 217 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: umbrella and rain, I know you didn't get a jet 218 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: ski intro. I heard you say you were like you 219 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: didn't even get a slow mo. 220 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: No, I've been filming everything in SloMo ever since. Like 221 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: I literally have my wedding cameras out, and I'm just 222 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: like you should just. 223 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: Be like this is how it should have been done. 224 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 4: I know I've filmed like I'll literally like film me 225 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: grilling and so motion like tossing shrimp in the air, 226 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's cool. 227 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: I just start like the slow most series. It means 228 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: a man when you're tossing your own shrimp, you know. 229 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: So after watching that, I know a lot of people 230 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: probably are like, is there a world where y'all get 231 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: back together? Yeah? I think I do. 232 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: Think that is like a hot topic question I keep getting. 233 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: And Jill asked me, like right when we arrived, she 234 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: was like, would you like consider because we me and Jill, 235 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: we were back in our room. I wish they would 236 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: play the inside of our room footage because I didn't 237 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: know there were cameras in there. 238 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: When we got in literally came in like we. 239 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: Were doing somersaults on the bed and she was like, oh, 240 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: just so you know, like there's cameras in here. I 241 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, it's like my butt is 242 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: out right now. Vulnerable, yeah, very vulnerable. But she was like, well, 243 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: would you go for Justin? And I was like no, 244 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: Like if me and Justin were to ever get back together, 245 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 4: like we couldn't do it here, like the level of 246 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: conversations we would need to have and like the stuff 247 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: we would have to unpack, Like I'm not doing that 248 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: on camera, so like we're gonna have to figure this out, eh, 249 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: swear like we can like date other people, but like 250 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: I would not even consider getting back with Justin on camera, 251 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: just because and I think he felt the same way, 252 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: like we went through too much together. 253 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, but I'm not bringing my I'm not 254 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: bringing my real world to this television show just so 255 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: everyone could judge me. 256 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: Said this is only ten percent of my real life exactly. 257 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: So when he presented to the Rose, were you like, 258 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: we're not doing this? How did that happen? Because in 259 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: my mind, I thought this doesn't feel fair. I was 260 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: also like, Sussie, take the Rose and just stay on 261 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: the show when I'm doing I know. 262 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: I was so caught off guard. Yeah, like I never 263 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: saw that coming. I literally was sitting there after they 264 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: sent Jeremy third. I was like, oh wow, like I 265 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: really have no storyline here. I was like there was 266 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: not even like a question of who Jeremy was picking, 267 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: because I'm like they would have put him last if. 268 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, who's he get pick? I was like, dang, 269 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: like I got. I was like I'm in and out 270 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: of here real quick, and they do not care. And 271 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: then when it was Justin last, I was like these 272 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: produces are so dumb. 273 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 4: I was like, they think Justin would give me his 274 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: road and that anyone would believe, Like I literally was 275 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: like this is such a I was like, this is 276 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 4: such a dumb storyline, like no one's gonna think Justin's 277 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: gonna give me the rose, Like literally so dumb. 278 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: And then he called my name and I was like 279 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: what the what the heck? 280 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: And then this is where maybe I just need to 281 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: reevaluate my brain cells because I was like really realizing, 282 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 4: like I was so unaware that I thought I was 283 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: going to go up there, and in my brain, I'm 284 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: like Justin and Lexi must have conspired and they both 285 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 4: wanted to save me, so like Justin was going to 286 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: offer me the rose first, and when I say no, 287 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: I'm going to go back in line and then him 288 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: and Lexi will continue forward cause like if you look, 289 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: I like, go up there, and I'm like that's so nice, 290 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: but like I can't let you do this. I go 291 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 4: back in line as if the rose ceremony is gonna continue. 292 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: I get to me. Yeah, I was like, oh, something 293 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: new is happening, right same. 294 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: I was like, this is a weird, you know, plot twist, 295 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: but like here we go. And then Justin left and 296 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: I looked at Lexi and I was like, wait, did 297 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: you guys plan this or did you guys talk? And 298 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: she was like no, And then I was like, oh god. 299 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,239 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh. 300 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like. 301 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 302 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: I was so confused. I was like, what is going on? 303 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: So then I run after Justin and of course it's 304 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 4: like I'm in a holding area. They're like just wait here, 305 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: we're talking to him, and I'm like, let me go 306 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: in there. You know, I don't even know where he was, 307 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: like I thought he was around a corner. And then 308 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they make me go back to 309 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: the rose ceremony. I thought they were going to like 310 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: be like Justin left the rose for Susie, and so 311 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: I was crying because I was like, I am not 312 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: gonna accept it, Like now I feel terrible that Justin 313 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: is also he's chosen to leave, and. 314 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: I understood quickly. 315 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, he's like he feels humiliated, like 316 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: he was taking a chance by doing that. I thought 317 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: it was like he had told Lexi or something. Ooh 318 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: it was dark times. And so then I was Then 319 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: when it went to Jill. 320 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: I was like, take the house, take it. Jill was like, 321 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: save me from this pressure, let me leave. Yeah, please 322 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: send me on my way. I should have never come. 323 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: So then you get a call in the airport, Oh 324 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: my gosh, sure, okay, were. 325 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: You interested in Jeremy? 326 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: I thought he was super cute, like I feel like 327 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 4: I don't. I didn't know him well enough to be 328 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 4: able to say whether there was any kind of. 329 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Like longevity there. 330 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 331 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: And he even asked me, or I think he asked 332 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: me before the rose trem andy, like if we if 333 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: I gave you my rose, like would you actually consider 334 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: like do you actually see something here? And I was like, 335 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, like we can explore it, but also 336 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: like I just got here. I don't know you and 337 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: That's where me and Jill at the beginning were like, 338 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: we are not gonna be begging for roses. You know, 339 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit there and be like, I you 340 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: know what, I've been thinking about this since I got here. 341 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: You are everything was looking. 342 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: Ever, yeah, because I'm like, I just don't know, Hugh. 343 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: I just like literally spent thirty minutes on jet ski 344 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: and then we kiss on a David Like that's all 345 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 4: I got. So it was like I'm open, but like, 346 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: I'm not going to sit here and lie to anybody. 347 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I didn't even know what the 348 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: question was at this point. 349 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: No. 350 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: I was asking if Jeremy was someone you were interested. 351 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: In and then the phone call. 352 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: But my thing at this point, oh yeah the phone call. 353 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: So he calls yeah, And at this point you're kind 354 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: of you've accepted I'm going home. 355 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get me A day I got there, I 356 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: was like, I'm immediately going home. 357 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: There's your arrival. 358 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: When you said I'm out. 359 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: Of here, when I was trying to take tequila shots 360 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: and people were like, hey, it was a great meeting. 361 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to bed, I was like, Okay, I guess 362 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: I'll see myself out I would have been devastated. 363 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: On that note. 364 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: I was really sad. 365 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: So he calls, he calls, I'm actually I was actually 366 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: in transport to the airport, so I technically lied. I 367 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 4: wasn't about to get on the plane. I was still 368 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: in the car. Could have turned around, could have turned around. 369 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: But it was a four hour car ride. I mean 370 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: you were about three hours ago. Oh oh Yeahad also 371 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: on the way to the airport, the drive her fully 372 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: got off the side of the road and like we 373 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: went and had a full meal together, just him and 374 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: I and like he has is he single? 375 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: He has two sons? Oh okay, and there I know. 376 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: And I was like, using my little bit of Spanish, 377 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: I have a full video. I was just like recording 378 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: myself trying like Coastareacan food. 379 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: And then we ended up. 380 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: Talking about his sons and I was like are they hot? 381 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: And he was like yeah, like a cute. And I 382 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: was like, maybe we maybe we take this thing off 383 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 4: roading and turn around and. 384 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: Your locals who did Susie, God, that would be like 385 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: my actual dream. 386 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: That's the actual dream. 387 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, I got the call and I was like 388 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: I just felt so bad. I was like I don't 389 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: know what's going on with Bailey right now, but I 390 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: I really did feel I mean, they looked so cute together. 391 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: I was like, you guys really do have something special. 392 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on that you're calling me. 393 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 4: I figured somebody came in and took her on a date, 394 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: you know, And so that was fit. 395 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was hard to watch. 396 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: I was like. 397 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: Whoa and then yeah, and then I like I knew 398 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: if I came back, I'd be in a love triangle. 399 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: So I was like, I don't want to like come 400 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: back to that. Yeah, and like I would have been 401 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: so sad that Justin tried to sacrifice his rose for 402 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: me and then went home. And then I'm like, you 403 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: know what, I'm actually gonna go back. 404 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: He's like text never, why is her phone not on? 405 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: Exactly? Literally she should be back. So I'm assuming y'all 406 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: have talks or y'all talk once you went home? 407 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: Yes soon for y'all in contact. 408 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: I was blowing up his phone. I was like, what happened? 409 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: Why did you do that? 410 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: Why did you leave? 411 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: Like I was immediately like as soon as like as 412 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: soon as I put the pieces together that like this 413 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: was not conspired between him and Lexi I was like, 414 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, like, why why didn't I go up 415 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: to the rose like podium and be like can we 416 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: have a conversation like and I guess for context, like 417 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: he thought Jeremy was giving me the rose like he 418 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 4: had told me earlier in the day. He was like, well, 419 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: I know Jeremy's didn't give you the rose and I 420 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 4: was like, I don't. I actually don't think so, yeah, 421 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: And so I think he really thought I was going 422 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: to have a rose. And then right before the rose ceremony, 423 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: he said, because they separate the guys and girls before 424 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 4: you walk in. He said that they he found out 425 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: like in that moment that Jeremy was picking Bailey, and 426 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: he was like it was like a in the moment 427 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: decision of like what do I do? 428 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: And I guess Like talking. 429 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 4: To him post show, he said that he felt like 430 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: it wasn't super solid with Lexi and he was like, 431 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: I figured you were getting the rose from Jeremy and 432 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: then moments before it was like, wait, do I really 433 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: just let this person I care about go home? And like, 434 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: and I think that we both in our conversations beforehand, 435 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: we had both said like we know one of us 436 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: is probably going to get screwed over when we go, 437 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: Like someone's going to be brought into like disrupt or whatever. 438 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: I didn't think it would be me. I was like, 439 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: if you want me to pull any man away from 440 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: a woman, I won't. I will gladly go home and 441 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: bury my head in my pillow and cry. Well. 442 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: I don't think people realize, and I don't know if 443 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: it's changed at all, but when you go on Paradise, 444 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: you you just say like you're just saying I want 445 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: to go, but you have no control or awareness of 446 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: when you're going to be sent in, right, So like 447 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: you could literally go the last day for all you know, 448 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: I know, right, Like, yeah, that's still how it is. 449 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. 450 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: So you and Justin knew that you were both going, 451 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: but you didn't know if you were going to go 452 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: first or he would be there once you got there, 453 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: right I did? 454 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: I think? 455 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: I hope I'm allowed to share this, But the producers 456 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: did give me a headset that he was down there already, 457 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: because it was really nice of them. Yeah, I felt, 458 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: And I also like, I think I would have figured 459 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: it out because I was like, there's no way I'm 460 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: sitting in this hotel for nine days or whatever it was, 461 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 4: and Justin's not already down there. Yeah, there's no way 462 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 4: that we're both going to be late arrivals, you know, right, Like. 463 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: At the same time Bombshell was entering at the same time. 464 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: Imagine we walk in hand in hand. 465 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: They're like, why are they here? 466 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: Literally, so you talk after the show, you blow up 467 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: his phone? Yeah, and where are y'all? Now We're in 468 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: really good terms. We share a managers. 469 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: So we had been actively avoiding each other prior to Paradise, 470 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 4: Like we both were at stagecoach and I would somebody 471 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 4: would be like, oh, just so you know, Justin's on 472 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: the way, and I'd be like, great, I'm actually rapping 473 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: up my night. 474 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to go home. Yeah. 475 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: So we were very much like I didn't want to 476 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: run into him. 477 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 4: I ran into him at the Super Bowl and I 478 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 4: think that was the last time I like ran into 479 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 4: him in the wild, which was in February. 480 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was. 481 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 4: Like, I don't want to do that again, Like I 482 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: just it was just like too much. I was like, I, yeah, 483 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: I don't want to run into him anywhere. And we 484 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: were in no contact. So coming off this show. It 485 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: definitely brought us back into each other's atmosphere. Like I 486 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 4: was immediately like we both were mad at each other. 487 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: Low key. 488 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: He was like, why didn't you take the rose? And 489 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, why'd you give it to me? Like what 490 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: are we doing? Like, oh my gosh, but we both 491 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 4: were like I'm joking when I say we're mad at 492 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: each other because there was so much I was like, 493 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: I know that you were doing that with love for me, 494 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: and obviously when you paint the picture of like what 495 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 4: he was experiencing, I'm like, Okay, I get it, you 496 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 4: know I And then when he sees where I'm coming 497 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: from where he's like, oh, you literally just had a 498 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: conversation telling this girl to pursue me. 499 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: How crappy would that be if you are like, yeah, 500 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: date him? 501 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: Like we're moved on from each other, like blah blah blah. 502 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, I'm like, actually, I'm 503 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 4: gonna take your rose. Like we both were just trying 504 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 4: to like be selfless. I think that's kind of a 505 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: thing that was happening. And so we went on a 506 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 4: trip with our management company in Mexico. So I'm like, 507 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: we're hanging out in Mexico doing like partying, having fun 508 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 4: like whatever. There have been like pick up all events 509 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: that our management company is either a part of or throwing. 510 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: We share a lot of the same friends, so we've 511 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 4: not divvied up the friend group in the divorce yet, 512 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: you know, like some people you're like, oh, who did 513 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: you get in the breakup? We still share a lot 514 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 4: of our same friends, and so for a long time 515 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: it was like, Okay, well, game night this week is 516 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: not with Justin or not with Suzie or whatever. Yeah, 517 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: and now we're just you know, we're on really great 518 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: terms and like I think we love each other so much, 519 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: and like probably if. 520 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: We were to ever move on from each other, we'd 521 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: have to probably go back. 522 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: And I just don't think an ex or a future 523 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: boyfriend or a girlfriend would be like, yeah, I'm totally 524 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: cool with this. 525 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: They won't. 526 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're gonna have to figure that out and 527 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 4: maybe divvy up the friend group or go back to 528 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: coexisting the. 529 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: Way we were before the show talk about getting back 530 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: together after all this or I mean. 531 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: We've definitely had conversations of like I think that That's 532 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: the thing though, is like when you're in no contact, 533 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 4: Like it's much easier to like actually move on, Like 534 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 4: we were both dating other people and like you know, yeah, 535 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: moving forward, And I think now it's like a lot 536 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: of it was just relying on each other for emotional 537 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: support as the show was coming out. Also, kind of 538 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: what we were talking about before we started is like 539 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: there's so much anxiety like leading up to like how 540 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: is this going to play out? 541 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: Like is just going to get a villain? 542 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: Edit? 543 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: Am I going to get a villain? 544 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: Edit? Like we just were so anxious and like it 545 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: was nice to have each other to like as friends, 546 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: to rely on and be like hey, like I appreciate you. 547 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: I understand where you're coming from, But I think right 548 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 4: now it wouldn't make sense for us to get back together. 549 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: I think we're both like really working on healing and 550 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: like I think we both have a lot of like 551 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: individual growth before we would be ready to like either 552 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 4: visit a relationship with each other or even like in 553 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: general just like going through this experience, Like I was like, 554 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: really I was like, gen I feel like I had 555 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 4: to like mourn without the experience. Like I was so 556 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: excited to like do something again with the Bachelor, and 557 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: it was just such a big disappointment. I was like 558 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 4: pretty low about it for a while, and I really 559 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: regret it. 560 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: I still kind of just wish I hadn't gone. 561 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 4: I'm like, I just wish I had not gone back, 562 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: even though like they treated me fine and like they 563 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: didn't do anything bad to me. 564 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: It's just that like the situation. 565 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wish I hadn't gone. But yeah, I 566 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: think we Yeah, I think we're both just like focused 567 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: on individually healing and if that were to be a 568 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: conversation later, like it would be down the road. 569 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: But when we've both like been in some intensive therapy. 570 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so it sounds like as of right now you're 571 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: not each other's person, but it's not fully off the table, 572 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: like you're not like never again. 573 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: I yeah, I don't feel that way, and I didn't 574 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: feel that way before, but I but it was enough 575 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: for us both to be like we can't be in contact, 576 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, before the show, 577 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 4: it was like you broke up in early January, ran 578 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: into each other in February. But during that whole time, 579 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: it's like we were like this isn't We're never gonna 580 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: be able to move on if we like stay friends. 581 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: So I just don't think there's any way to do 582 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: like I think you have to. I think no contact 583 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: sounds like the hardest thing in the world, but I 584 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: also think it's the only way to to move on 585 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: from someone. I agree, especially when y'all have a lot 586 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: of love and respect and it's not like someone did 587 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: as far as I know, something like that you can't 588 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: come back from. It was more just like we need 589 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: to like be on our own to grow, but like 590 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: there wasn't anything catastrophic that happened, which almost makes it harder. 591 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: Like sometimes you doesn't wish someone did something terrible literally 592 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: so you had a reason to be like I never 593 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: want to talk to you again. 594 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would make it so easy, It really would. 595 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And even I feel like people always say like, oh, 596 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: you and Clayton stayed friends, and I'm like, yeah, but 597 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: we also went a full month without any communication, like 598 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 4: no contact, and then we were going to be at 599 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 4: an event together or something, and we reached back out. 600 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: We had a conversation. We both like time heals so much. 601 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: And yes, I would personally say me and Clayton are 602 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 4: on great terms, but like we're not friends. 603 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: You know, I like talking on the daily or hanging 604 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 2: out totally. 605 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I feel like and I think because our 606 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: lives are public, like it probably gets this label of like, oh, 607 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: I'm still friends with my exit. I'm like, well, we're 608 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: not actually like friends, but I still care about the 609 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: person and like, you know, respect him or whatever. 610 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, well I wanted to ask about your reality 611 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: TV day since she brought it up. 612 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: But we're going to take a break and we'll be 613 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: right back. All right, we're back. 614 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: So first of all, you're a big reality TV girl, 615 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: because I was listening to your podcast. 616 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: I was listening to The Vile. 617 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: Files with you on it, and I was like, she 618 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: loves you love reality TV? 619 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, ever since going on it? Oh really yeah not 620 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: before never before. 621 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: Interesting See yeah, I guess I kind of was the 622 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: same way, but more so Haley loves reality TV. So like, yeah, 623 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: she is a. 624 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: Huge Bachelor fan. 625 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: That's so funny. 626 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And she tried to lie and say she hadn't 627 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: watched my seasons, but then I found out she did. 628 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: It's like it's okay, like it's a big show. It's 629 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: not like this like niche like embarrassing show that no. 630 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: One watches like ninety eight Fiance or. 631 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: Something like Jenner Branderson watches at the time, watch The Bachelor. 632 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: So I'm like, you're fine, Yeah, you can admit it. 633 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: But anyways, so now I'm into reality TV. But I 634 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: heard you talking about how Love Island was just like 635 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: disappointing this season compared to last season, which I think 636 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: was the sentiment of the USA as a whole. Yeah, 637 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: And I didn't watch last season live, so I tried 638 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 2: to binge it to talk about on the podcast, but 639 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: it was like thirty episodes that I had to binge, 640 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: and I think I did it in like a week, 641 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: which was a brain rot that I don't wish on anyone. 642 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: And so I kind of hated it because I was like, 643 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: I don't get the appeal. Yeah, and then I watched 644 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: this season live and I was like, I get the 645 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: camaraderie of like all of us being in it together, 646 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: but I agree, there was just this lack of rooting 647 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: for anyone. 648 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, That's how I felt. I was like, I feel 649 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: like there's no like genuine connection to like I don't 650 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: know the root for Like, it just felt like I 651 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: don't know. 652 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 4: It was not and don't get me wrong. Individually, I 653 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 4: like a lot of them, and I'm like, oh, they 654 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 4: were great like people to watch and individually root for, 655 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: But there weren't a lot of couples with like highs, 656 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 4: lows pits. 657 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, like peaks. I was just like and then like 658 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: cosa more. 659 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, what a brilliant twist of a show, But 660 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 4: like there was, it doesn't make any sense when there's 661 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: no couples. 662 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: It was like, what's the point, what's the point? 663 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: Save them or just send them all in, send a 664 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 4: bunch of bombshells and let it just be chaos. 665 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: Yes, but you were talking about how different it feels 666 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: to watch, y'all. We're talking about how different it feels 667 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: to watch people kiss on Love Island make out on 668 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 2: Love Island versus Bachelor and Paradise. And it was so 669 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: jarring to go from Bachelor and from Love Island challenges 670 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: to that challenge on Bachelorne Paradise where they were in. 671 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: The tent to kissing booth. Yeah, why is that? 672 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: Though? 673 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: Do you think? 674 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: I that's a great question, And I don't know. 675 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: I feel like so, I was like listening to some 676 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: people talk about Love Island through the context of like 677 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: they'll do these crazy, like sexualized challenges where they're literally 678 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 4: like it's like sometimes like soft porn, Like it's bizarre, 679 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: and it's kind of like it kind of got to 680 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: be too much for me. 681 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: This season. I was like, I don't know that I'm 682 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: like into this, like, oh, it's a little Actually. 683 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: The milk thing was so gross. 684 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: I was physically like I can't watch this. Yeah, And 685 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: then the makeout sessions and they're grinding on each other 686 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: I know. 687 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, are we getting old or is it? 688 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: Like I feel literally like a grandma. I have my 689 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: grandma now like these children on TV. 690 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 691 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 4: But then they go from these challenges to then being 692 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: in the villa and it's like, oh, we haven't made 693 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: out yet outside of a challenge, yes, And I'm like 694 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: what you're literally like practically doing it, and then you 695 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 4: like don't kiss outside of a challenge, Like that's so 696 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 4: bizarre to me. Where I feel like in the back world, 697 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: it's like or at least this season, it's like there's 698 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: these challenges now and they're like maybe maybe the thing 699 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 4: is that like the Bachelor's like romanticized in a sense, 700 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: like I think of The Bachelor, it's more romantic. 701 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know how you felt on the show. 702 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, like this is too 703 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 4: romantic for me, like when something would be like so 704 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: grand and like oh yeah, I was like, I don't 705 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 4: even know you, but like this is like really a 706 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 4: big gesture where like, I don't know, it just felt 707 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 4: like there's a lot of pressure on these moments to 708 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 4: be like beautiful and romantic where it's like you're in 709 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: this like flowy like like kissing booth, and I was like, 710 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: it just is like it's like a juxtaposition. 711 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: It's weird. 712 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: I agree. 713 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: I think The Bachelor has always almost like I think 714 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: it prides itself on this like romantic love story that 715 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: they're trying to create, and there's always been a there's 716 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: always been a type of person that they have on 717 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: the show, especially when it comes to the women, and 718 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: so I think that seeing them try to into this 719 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: like challenge space of like chemistry tests and what Love 720 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: Island's doing feels forced. 721 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 5: Because it's like that's not why people watch the Bachelor franchise. 722 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember on a group date, Chris Souls 723 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: took me up to this like the rooftop. Yeah, and 724 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 2: had like all this like moment romantic and I just 725 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: listened to all the girls talk about making out with him, 726 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: and so I go up there. 727 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: I'm like a virgin. 728 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm like very selective of who I've kissed, and I'm like, 729 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: my parents are gonna be watching this, and I felt 730 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: like he was gonna kiss me, and I was like 731 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to kiss right, Like, if we're gonna kiss, 732 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: I wanted to be like our moment and not on 733 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: a group day where you just kissed everyone. So I 734 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: really felt what you're talking about, where like everything felt 735 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: very grand and like trying to make it romantic. Yes, 736 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: but I'm like he just made up with every other 737 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: girl in this state, and I'm like the last one. 738 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: I literally I remember were seeing Clayton with lipstick on 739 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 4: his slip at one point and I was like, get 740 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 4: me out of here. 741 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm tapping out. I was like I can't because yeah, 742 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I just knew in one girl. 743 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Like I think it was Eliza. Literally 744 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 4: loved her. She was so it was such a funny moment. 745 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: She came back and like or she like put lipless 746 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: on before she left. 747 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: She came back. 748 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: Her lips were like dry as a bone, and we 749 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 4: were like, we know what you were doing. But then 750 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: it's like, okay, Susie, it's your turn, and you're like, oh, 751 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: like I cannot. 752 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: Like what number am I? 753 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: Literally? 754 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: And they also don't show that it's a turn thing, 755 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: like they just think that we go up and interrupt 756 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: when we want, but there is like an order to it, 757 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: so you don't really get to choose your your moment 758 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: of when you get to kiss him, if you were 759 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: going to kiss him, I know, but yeah, there was 760 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: Caitlin Bristow would wear this like really bold lip color 761 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: and I'd be like, I know, he has that all 762 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: over his face. So she'd come back and I'm like, 763 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: you just got purple lipstick all over She'd be so funny. Okay, 764 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: so your reality TV days, Yes, in the dating world, 765 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: are you? Are you retired? 766 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: I have to be done. Unfortunately, what if? 767 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: What if? 768 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: What if Love Island came to you? 769 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: Okay, never Love Island. 770 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 4: I've been I like did a funny bit where I 771 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 4: tried to be funny bit where I was like, I'm 772 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 4: trying to get recruited by Love Island. Meanwhile, I'd already 773 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: filmed Bachelor in Paradise, so I was like, I know, 774 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 4: like my contract wouldn't let me go anyways, but I 775 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: was just doing it as a bit and I went 776 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: home to visit my parents and my mom was. 777 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: Like, are you trying to go on that show? And 778 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, Mom, No, I was like, 779 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: it's just for the internet. Like I'm literally just trying 780 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: to get like I'm just clock chasing it. 781 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: This is this is content. 782 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: It's content. 783 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 4: I'm I'm literally writing the coattails of the biggest show 784 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 4: of the season, you know, like don't worry. 785 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: So like, no, I could never go. 786 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 4: I don't think I would even like be the prototype 787 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: of what would go on anyways, but like I also 788 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 4: couldn't do it. I did get contacted by a show 789 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: actich I can't say what show, but I like considered 790 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: it for a hot minute coming off Paradise, and then 791 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 4: it's kind of when I hit the lull, the anxiety, 792 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: the like just feeling really sad about it, and I 793 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 4: was I was like, hey, appreciate the like so appreciate 794 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: you reaching out, but like I'm going to pass. And 795 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 4: then like the next day I was like, should I 796 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: have done that, and then I was like, no, that's 797 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: the right decision. 798 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: And I think now I'm like. 799 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: I wanted to, like I would I want to do 800 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 4: reality TV again, I'm like down, yeah, but like, what 801 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 4: what is my pivot? I'm like, do I do like 802 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 4: the challenge or like Big Brother Survivor or something that's 803 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 4: like more challenge related. 804 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: I I've always wanted and I think they did it 805 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: with Bachelor Game. 806 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 3: They did something. 807 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: I know they did Winter Games, but like there weren't 808 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: they weren't really challenges. 809 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish they would do a road Rules type 810 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: show with like actual challenges, but with former Bachelor people 811 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 5: or Bachelor people and if people spark a romance, great, 812 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 5: kind of like show Rules, but that's not the goal 813 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 5: of the show, which I know they would never do 814 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 5: because the whole goal is to get a rose whatever. 815 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: Right, But I've always wanted them to do that. 816 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: I would like that feels very on brand for what 817 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 4: I would want to do. Like that, Like I jokingly 818 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 4: said in my like farewell post to Paradise, was like 819 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 4: like I just wanted to like go have summer camp. 820 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: Like it felt when I got there, I was like, 821 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: this is so fun. 822 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: I'm here with a bunch of people, and like, I 823 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 4: was so excited to like make new friends and like, 824 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 4: and I was like, that would be more like summer 825 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 4: camp if I got to stay. Because I actually didn't 826 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: have a connection, I guess, so what, you know, why 827 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: would I be there? But I'm like, that's what I want, Like, 828 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 4: I just want to like hang out and have fun. 829 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: If the gold did the Goldens come in while. 830 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: You were there, they came the next day. 831 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 2: If they had come and you and one of the 832 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: men had, they might be more interested in you. Would 833 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: you accept their rose? 834 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: That's a good question. 835 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 4: If April was giving the rose to Jonathan the same week, 836 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 4: then yeah, like sure, but not to. 837 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: Be the lone ranger. 838 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 839 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I would say no. I 840 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 4: think i'd probably do says, Oh, Gary's great. 841 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 2: I know, and he's fun. Yeah, and he doesn't feel 842 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: like that old to me. No, Yeah, he has a 843 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 2: very youthful spirit. 844 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: I agree. We'd be coming out of the car together 845 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: dancing with. 846 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: I think Kaylee would let me go on if I 847 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: could connect with Garrett. 848 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a fair ask, I think, But no, 849 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: I think if there was no pressure for it to 850 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 4: be a romantic connection. I'd be like, yeah, let's yeah, 851 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 4: let's team up, let's do this, like for yeah, let's get. 852 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: Let's speak to money. Because they've added this money out. 853 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: The Bachelor Paradises thrown me for a loop because every 854 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: preview there's new rules. I'm like, wait, yeah, I feel 855 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: again feeling old because they're switching it up on me. 856 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: What do you think about that? 857 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: By the way, the money, well, like all of it. 858 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: It's like the camera's changed. They have this like all 859 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: the slow most stuff. The intro like yeah, had its 860 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: thing for so long and it was not just like 861 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: a gradual shift. 862 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 3: It was this like new location, Yeah, new I think. 863 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: Director, Yeah yeah, but what do you think of someone 864 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: who watch the show? 865 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh? 866 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 4: You know, how do I say this? Because I love it. 867 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm just sick to my stomach. I came in with 868 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 4: an umbrella, that is what I think. I'm like, I 869 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 4: was so here for the rebrand, like I am a 870 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 4: wedding videographer. 871 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: I love slow motion. I love a drone shot. Like 872 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: I was out on the Seado making hearts with Jeremy. 873 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 4: I was like, you start here, I'll start there, Like 874 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: let's make a heart for the drone, Like I was like, so, 875 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 4: I'm like, I love this so to come in with 876 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 4: my the way I came in. I'm sorry if you 877 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 4: guys are sick of hearing about it, because I literally 878 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 4: was like so bombed, and then watching it back, I 879 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 4: was like, I wasn't even in slow motion with the umbrella. 880 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 4: I was just in twenty four frames per second or 881 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 4: whatever they shoot in thirty maybe I don't know, And 882 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 4: I was like, this is just so sad for me. 883 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 4: So I actually love the cinematography of it. I'm like, 884 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 4: I love the rebrand. And I haven't been a Bachelor 885 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 4: fan for so long, like I started watching like when 886 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 4: they first contacted me, which was a couple of years 887 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 4: before I went on, And so I don't have this 888 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 4: like emotional connection to the old like way that they shoot. 889 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 4: And I think that I've been saying, I'm like, they 890 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 4: need a rebrand, they need a rebrand, they need a rebrand, 891 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 4: and now they did it, and I'm like, I love it. 892 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: It's a little blue, like the tint is a little 893 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: it's a little blue. 894 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 4: But also like maybe that's a psychology hack because people 895 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 4: love the color blue. It makes you like gravitate towards things. 896 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 4: Maybe they're like, shoot, they're like, I don't feel election. 897 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: I'm not feeling the blue. No, I just I don't like. 898 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: No. 899 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: I love I like the I think the cinematography of 900 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: it is cool, Like I think they really upgraded big time. 901 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: I kind of missed the old spot like I miss 902 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: and I kind of miss them all like dying of 903 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: like heat and like bugs and stuff like there was 904 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 2: something nitty and gritty about it. Yeah, but the coloring. 905 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 3: I texted Susie. 906 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: I was like, Susie's the only one who has escaped 907 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 2: this weird tint, Like you look so beautiful and everyone 908 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 2: looks great, but I'm like the camera's almost like not 909 00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: doing them justice. 910 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: You know what. It's probably because my spray tanta was 911 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: so orange. 912 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 4: That the blue like contract con Yeah, it like brought 913 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 4: me back to a normal shade because I remember at 914 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: one point seeing my leg next to Jeremy's on. 915 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: The very pinky he looked. 916 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 4: But I will tell you in real life, I looked orange. 917 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 4: I looked like a cheeto out there, And I was like, 918 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 4: I know, because I didn't have enough time to prep 919 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 4: my spray tanks, I didn't know I was going in 920 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 4: until the day up, so I was just putting on 921 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 4: like everything, marinating and like, so that was it probably 922 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 4: did me a favor because I was marinated like a cheeto. 923 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 3: They they didn't let you know, but you hacked the system. 924 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: I hacked and nobody knew it at the time. 925 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: You know, I did it. I was like, well, Susie 926 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 2: has whatever hurt you routine is? 927 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 3: She beat the camera? 928 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: Wow, thank you? 929 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 4: And maybe that's why I got sent home though, because 930 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 4: in person they were like, who is this cheeto coming down? 931 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: Here? 932 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 3: This cheeto in the rain? 933 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: Production assistant coming down? 934 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: You know, they could have done something so cool with 935 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: the rain, like if they but you would have had 936 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: to like go of the umbrella and let yourself get drenched, 937 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: but like the slow move of the rain and you 938 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: being like not the villain walking in but the stirring things. 939 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been great. I would have done it. 940 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 3: Maybe you should film that, Yeah, I thought about it. 941 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: I have a hose. 942 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, I'll come over. 943 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, just bring your outfit. 944 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: Love. 945 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 4: I really was like trying to think of like funny 946 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 4: things because I knew it was going to be bad 947 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 4: for me. So I was like, what are some funny 948 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 4: things I can do? So I did, Like I loved it. 949 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 4: Things I was thinking about, like getting back in the 950 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 4: outfit and just like putting like sopping wet hair and 951 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 4: then like shooting like a fake im as if I 952 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 4: like just got drenched from the water. 953 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 2: So you could. There's so much you could do with it. 954 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 2: There's a lot to work with. Yeah, did you get 955 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 2: to see Hannah Brown at all? 956 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: Yes? Oh you did, but like a hot minute she was. 957 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: It's my first time meeting her. She was so nice. 958 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: Wait what why do I feel like y'all would be 959 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: a best friends? 960 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: Maybe we would. I mean she was great. 961 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,959 Speaker 4: I literally talked to her for like probably ten minutes 962 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 4: before the Rose simony, and I was like, I'm going home, 963 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 4: but like, it was so nice to meet you. 964 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: Like let's chit chats, like tell me about your life. 965 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 3: She just got married. 966 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: I know, she looked so good done. 967 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 2: The whole thing looked just like magical. 968 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: It really did. 969 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: I was so impressed with her social media me too. 970 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 2: Someone she must have had someone just on site getting 971 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: it up. 972 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 4: I think, so, which is like so brilliant when you 973 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 4: think if you're a content creator, like so smart to 974 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: have an in person, like social media person, not the photographer, 975 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: but like somebody who's doing like tiktokuff, yeah, behind the scenes. 976 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: Like and it's just nice to have that. 977 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 4: Like when I was kind of finishing out my wedding 978 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 4: videography career, people were starting to bring in people for 979 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 4: like a couple hundred bucks a day just to like 980 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 4: film bts of their day on their phone because it 981 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 4: takes usually like weeks or months for photographers videographers to 982 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 4: get the video back, so it's nice to have like 983 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: immediate content. 984 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: Well that's what Tanya was saying that after she had 985 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: a social media person, Ashley there and she Tanya was saying, 986 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: at the end of the night, the whole time we 987 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: were there, after the rehearsal dinner, they went through and 988 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 2: got to watch all the videos and because she was like, 989 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 2: we weren't able to sleep before the wedding, so it 990 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: was like fun to just go through the videos and 991 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 2: then have everything instantly there, not even to have content, 992 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: but mostly memories to have instantly because it's true, it's 993 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: such a whirlwind that you know, but I think people 994 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 2: see content and they're like, how are you not present 995 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 2: or in the moment. It's it's like you're not having 996 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 2: to be if you hire someone. 997 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: Literally, I saw. 998 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 4: Somebody say something like in her comment section that was 999 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 4: like were you even like paying, like were you even 1000 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 4: like a present or whatever? And I wanted to write 1001 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 4: back and be like, she probably was so present, like 1002 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 4: probably more so than a normal bride news not hired 1003 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 4: someone to do her social media. 1004 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, she probably like didn't. 1005 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 4: Have to worry about anything, like when it comes to content, like, so, 1006 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 4: I think it's so smart even if you're not a 1007 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 4: content creator, just for the memes's I agree. 1008 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have vision? Okay, so you've done so 1009 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: many weddings, have you been to a certain place or 1010 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: venue or like like a destination where you go this 1011 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 2: is my dream? 1012 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: You know what? I that's a great question. 1013 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: You like beach. 1014 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 3: I love I love a beat. 1015 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 4: I feel like anything like natury, so like I'm such 1016 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 4: a beach person that I would so be down for 1017 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 4: a beach wedding. I feel like for years I was like, 1018 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 4: oh I want a beach wedding and like no shoes. 1019 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm also like pretty tall, so I'm like if I 1020 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 4: marry a short guy, like works out in my favor. 1021 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: You know, I can just like bury my feet in 1022 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: the sand. 1023 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: For all the picture. 1024 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 3: You can bear him as well as you need. 1025 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 4: Literally, it's kind of genius. So maybe I'll keep that 1026 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 4: plan going. But I'm also I would so be down 1027 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 4: for like an elopement and then like a big party. Yes, 1028 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 4: I feel like as a wedding videographer, I love weddings. 1029 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 4: I love love, but I'm also like people go into 1030 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 4: debt or like they don't they can't buy a house 1031 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 4: because they're like spending so much money on the wedding. 1032 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: And I get it, like we all dream about a wedding. 1033 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 4: Day, but I'm also like, set yourself up, you know, 1034 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 4: like if it's just a if it's an elopement, get 1035 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 4: like a photographer, you're maybe your best friends or whatever, 1036 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 4: but just like do it for you and then. 1037 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 1: Have like a big party to celebrate. 1038 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 3: I know. 1039 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 2: I've talked to Haley about that because we I'm like, 1040 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: I don't I want us to have our dream wedding 1041 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: when we're able to do it without any like to 1042 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: overthink things. So but we've talked about the elopement and 1043 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 2: then a party. But then, like we've been to so 1044 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 2: many fun weddings recently, like wedding weekends where we're like, wow, 1045 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: it's so nice to have everyone yeah together. Yeah, So 1046 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 2: we've gone back and forth, But do you have any 1047 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: dues and don'ts for brides as a video as a former, 1048 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 2: are you still doing weddings? No? 1049 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 4: I would only do them if like a friend needed 1050 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 4: somebody to But do's and don'ts, I feel like the 1051 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 4: best thing you can do. I think like a really 1052 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 4: great coordinator is probably the best thing you can do 1053 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 4: as somebody who's gonna. 1054 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: Like like a wedding planner or a wedding yet, like a. 1055 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 4: Wedding planner who would also be there on site like yah, 1056 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 4: knows everything and not a free to run the show. 1057 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: Like I would never be good at that job, but 1058 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,959 Speaker 1: like I would just I would actually make your day worse, 1059 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: you know, I. 1060 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: Would be the most stressful part of your day unfortunately. 1061 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 3: Literally, where's Becca? She's catering okay, Yeah. 1062 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: And she has no idea what time it is or 1063 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: what time the wedding starts. 1064 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was late, so that would literally be me. 1065 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: So I am not the right person for that job. 1066 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 4: But I think I've seen weddings done often where they're 1067 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 4: they don't have a coordinator and the bride is so 1068 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 4: stressed and I feel so bad because I'm like, you 1069 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 4: spent so much money and you really aren't enjoying the day. 1070 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 4: But if you hire someone or if you have a 1071 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 4: family friend, I've seen family friends be like someone's cousin 1072 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 4: and they're like I just love them so much, like 1073 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 4: I'm coordinating their day, and I'm like, that is such 1074 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 4: an asset and it just a good coordinator or planner. 1075 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: I think that's the number one tip I would give. 1076 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 2: That's a good one. I agree. I think that's everything. 1077 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: It's everything florals and your wedding planner. 1078 00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. 1079 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: And your music. 1080 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 4: And your music? Yeah, are you doing like a DJ 1081 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 4: in trusting or a band or do you want to 1082 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 4: a playlist? 1083 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 5: Say? 1084 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 2: Because like a really good live band is so fun, 1085 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 2: but if they're not good, it's tough. 1086 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: It could be a miss. 1087 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: The DJ hits every time, Well, I guess if it's 1088 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 2: not a good DJ though, that's true. But everyone I've. 1089 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 3: Been too, there's been a really good DJ. 1090 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: And when the DJ comes on when the band's taking 1091 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 2: a break, fun. 1092 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 4: I yeah, I do think a live band is kind 1093 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 4: of iconic, and then you kind of get the best 1094 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 4: of both because yeah, they take breaks, you have to yeah, yeah, 1095 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 4: and then you could curate your playlist for in between 1096 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 4: the band. 1097 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 2: I like that, you think I could curry my own 1098 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: DJ playlist. There's something about the transitions of songs that 1099 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: gets everyone up and you here's the thing. You gotta 1100 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: have space where people can sit down and not feel 1101 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 2: like they're missing out. 1102 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you also got to. 1103 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 2: Have enough songs that people aren't choosing to sit down, right, 1104 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 2: because there's some songs where you're like, I gotta be 1105 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: a part of this, or if. 1106 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 4: You're like in the bathroom when you hear like yeah 1107 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 4: by Usher, come on, you're not washing your hands. You're 1108 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 4: running to the dance floor, like I gotta get every 1109 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 4: minute of this song. 1110 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: I hear it over now by Taylor stuff but just 1111 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: not necessarily a wedding song, but it was me. Tanya 1112 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 2: and Sophia had like a moment so on her bachelorette 1113 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 2: and so I was running down the stairs, like sprinting 1114 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 2: to the dance floor. 1115 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta have the bamers that get people back 1116 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 4: out there, you know, like you can't sit for too long. 1117 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 3: No, okay, So dating life, you're single. 1118 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 6: Single, mingling, not mingling, not mingling, healing, I think, yeah, 1119 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 6: I think I'm just like, yeah, I'm just focusing on 1120 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 6: my mental health and my and honestly, like, I'm gonna 1121 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 6: get my. 1122 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 4: Eggs frison in the next two months. I'm looking at 1123 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 4: the calendar right now. I think it'll be in two months. 1124 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: We talk about that. Yeah, what was like, I have 1125 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 2: gone so back and forth on doing it, and I 1126 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 2: didn't know was it something that you've thought about for 1127 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: a long time and you finally were just like it's time. 1128 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1129 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 4: So I remember when Clayton and I broke up, or 1130 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 4: we were kind of like talking about breaking up and 1131 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,479 Speaker 4: we were like going through that. I was twenty seven 1132 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 4: when I went on the show, so it's probably around 1133 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 4: twenty eight, which is crazy because I'll be thirty two 1134 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 4: next month. I'm like, that's it blows my mind that 1135 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 4: that much time has passed. 1136 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1137 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: But as we were like in the talks. 1138 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 4: Of like potentially breaking up, I remember saying to a friend, 1139 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 4: I was like, if we do break up, I'm getting 1140 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 4: my eggs frozen because I feel this like pressure of like, 1141 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 4: oh gosh, I'm twenty eight starting over again, and like 1142 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 4: it just feels like a bit daunting. 1143 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: And I didn't get them frozen. 1144 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 4: And then then like the next year, I met Justin 1145 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, I'm I'm safe again. I'm like, Okay, 1146 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 4: the trajectory, you know, will be in other five years. 1147 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'll be like thirty four, thirty five 1148 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 4: or whatever. And then we didn't work out, and so 1149 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 4: it's kind of been this thing of like, Okay, if 1150 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 4: I if we don't work out, then like I'll get. 1151 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: Them frozen then or then. And I'm so lucky. 1152 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 4: But my cousin is opening up a clinic in Chicago 1153 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 4: with a friend who's a doctor, so she's worked in 1154 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,240 Speaker 4: the industry for like fifteen years, and so I'm gonna 1155 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 4: They're gonna do it in an. 1156 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: Exchange for me. It's amazing, amazing. 1157 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and really because it's so expensive and my insurance 1158 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 4: doesn't cover it, so I yeah, I feel super super 1159 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 4: lucky and like hopefully it'll be mutually beneficial for them 1160 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 4: as well opening a new clinic. 1161 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's like very. 1162 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 4: Like it has been very emotional for me because like 1163 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: I think when I was younger, I didn't even think 1164 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 4: about kids, and I was like, I don't know, Like 1165 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 4: I was like maybe like maybe, like I didn't grow 1166 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 4: up with like tons of little cousins, like I was 1167 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 4: the little cousin, and I was always career focused and 1168 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 4: I was never like dreamt about my wedding. I just 1169 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 4: was like it'll all happened, Like I didn't even think 1170 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 4: to worry about it, Like I just figured life would 1171 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 4: like fall into place. And now I'm like coming up 1172 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 4: on thirty two, and I'm like nothing has fallen into place, 1173 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 4: like I need to come up with a plan. And 1174 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 4: then I find myself like needing to make these decisions 1175 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 4: in whether it's in relationships or out of relationships, where 1176 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 4: I'm like I need to figure this out right now. 1177 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 4: And like anyone that I've talked to that's frozen their 1178 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 4: eggs are like, just do it, because that like constant 1179 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 4: noise goes away when you get the eggs frozen, and 1180 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 4: then you're not making decisions based on like a timeline. 1181 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 4: You're making decisions that make sense for right you know 1182 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,479 Speaker 4: what you really want. 1183 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I it's interesting because you're thirty two, you said. 1184 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: In a month, Yeah, so I feel like all my friends. 1185 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm thirty six, so all my friends are in 1186 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 2: my age range, and so many of them who also 1187 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 2: had this expectation of like I'll be married with kids 1188 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 2: by a certain age, like got married, you know, within 1189 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 2: the last few years and are starting to have the 1190 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 2: process of getting pregnant. My other best friend just had 1191 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 2: her baby and she's thirty seven, and it's like, it 1192 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 2: is this weird thing because the society is like, you 1193 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 2: don't have time, you don't have time. But I do 1194 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 2: think taking control of but also taking control of what 1195 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 2: you're able to do to put your mind to ease 1196 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 2: so that you're not making your moves based on those decisions, 1197 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 2: because you don't want to settle for someone based on 1198 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 2: the timeline that you've created for yourself. Yeah, when you 1199 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 2: could just freeze your eggs and have that security of 1200 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: knowing you did that and then be able to find 1201 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 2: the person that's not feel like you have to rush 1202 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 2: your healing or being single or whatever. You know. So totally, 1203 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 2: I think it's just I've always heard, you know, everyone's 1204 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,919 Speaker 2: just like just do it. Yeah, everyone, if you're thinking 1205 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 2: about it, just do it. 1206 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: Literally, that's what everyone says. Who's done it. 1207 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just was on a girl's chip with 1208 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 4: literally like thirteen girls I didn't know. Well, yeah, that's 1209 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 4: very it was, and everybody was so amazing, and they 1210 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 4: were all older and they were mostly mom but like 1211 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 4: they were. The woman that really opened up and shared 1212 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 4: with me was forty two and she just had twins 1213 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 4: like a year ago, and she froze her eggs like 1214 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 4: ten years prior and then tried to get pregnant for 1215 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 4: like ten years, couldn't get pregnant, and this was like 1216 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 4: their last attempt, and they were the eggs from ten 1217 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 4: years earlier that she had frozen, I know. And so 1218 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 4: which is like also a mind like screw when you 1219 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 4: think about it and you're like, oh my gosh, this 1220 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 4: these are babies that were like pulled out and fertilized 1221 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 4: with her same. 1222 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 1: Husband ten years ago. So they could be ten right now, 1223 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: but they're one. 1224 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so yeah, I think it's like everybody that 1225 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 4: I talked to says the same thing. 1226 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 1: Just if you're thinking about it and you can. 1227 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 4: Afford it, or if you can figure out or if 1228 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 4: insurance covers it, just do it because it does give 1229 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 4: you peace of mind. And I think that that has 1230 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 4: been like an emotional part of like my breakup and 1231 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 4: even going to Paradise, like and also, can I just 1232 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 4: say people that have come online because Lexi talks about 1233 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 4: her journey with freezing her eggs and like endometriosis and 1234 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 4: stuff like that, I've seen some really nasty comments being 1235 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 4: like if you're so you know, interested in like getting 1236 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 4: married and having babies, where are you going on a 1237 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 4: dating show? 1238 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: Like you, guys, it's three weeks of our life. 1239 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 4: If we've gone to thirty two and haven't met somebody, 1240 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 4: you think three weeks are going to make that much 1241 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 4: of a difference in finding the person you're gonna spend 1242 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 4: your life with, Like, get out of my comment section. 1243 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 2: Like so what if it works? 1244 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: And what if it works exactly? 1245 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, you never, I mean I was hopeful, 1246 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 4: Like yeah, I was hopeful that I would meet I 1247 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 4: kept hearing about this older guy that they were bringing on. 1248 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: I think it was Dale. They really talked him up 1249 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 1: and I didn't met him. Yeah, three times I get 1250 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 1: there and I was like, is this what you're talking about? 1251 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 3: I met him and he doesn't remember me. 1252 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so exactly. But he's he was lovely like, when 1253 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: I met him, I was super nice. But you know, 1254 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: for the fourth time, I was kidding. I'm just kidding. 1255 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: He was nice all four times times he was pleasant. 1256 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 4: So but yeah, I think that you you know, you go, yeah, 1257 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 4: maybe it works, maybe you meet somebody, and if you don't, 1258 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, it's three weeks, like and it's a 1259 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 4: I think it's an amazing experience. Even the twenty four 1260 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 4: hours I was there, I was like, this was lit. 1261 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 4: I wish I could stay. 1262 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 2: Imagine if you had gotten there first, I know the 1263 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 2: party that you would have thrown for everybody. 1264 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 4: I feel like Bachelination does not know the lore of 1265 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 4: my wild side, you know, because I get edited into 1266 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 4: a very like. 1267 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: Your very southern. 1268 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: That's what they think, maybe a little bit. But I'm like, 1269 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: but also I can throw it down like I will 1270 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: literally yeah, I won't even say it. 1271 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, if you had already been there and someone 1272 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 2: came down in the rain with an umbrella, you would 1273 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 2: have been ripping shots with them. 1274 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 4: Literally, I would not let the party not start, you 1275 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 4: know what I mean. I'm like, oh my god, they 1276 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 4: sent her down an umbrella, Like I am shaking my 1277 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 4: ass tonight, Like I am getting on the bar top like, yeah. 1278 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 3: Well that was their mistake. 1279 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,439 Speaker 2: Thanks, and I'll remember for that for you and we'll 1280 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 2: remember that, thanks guys. But I do hope that What 1281 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: about what's this show where the Strongest Soldier or whatever 1282 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 2: it's called where you go on and you're like, as 1283 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,439 Speaker 2: a soldier or marine. 1284 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: Per special Forces, special Forces, you do that one thousand percent? Wow, 1285 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 1: I would do it. 1286 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 4: I really struggle in the cold, So I'd probably try 1287 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 4: to get a prescription because I think I have ray 1288 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 4: nods disease for oh, I think you know, like I'm 1289 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 4: like your hands, Yes, I turn purple and stuff. So 1290 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 4: I think there's this my doctor told me about this 1291 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 4: blood pressure pill where like you can take it. So 1292 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, if I can get the blood pressure pill, 1293 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 4: I will do it. 1294 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do some testing before we put you in this. 1295 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm like talking a big game and then I'm like, 1296 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: I'm actually going home. Nate one here too. 1297 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 3: I think the sleep part would be the end of me. 1298 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 2: I think that not sleeping in a comfortable cozy space 1299 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,720 Speaker 2: would be where I like succumb. 1300 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh you're a shower before bad girl, right, I 1301 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 4: saw you post. 1302 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 3: About that thousand, are you not? 1303 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm a dirty Yeah, I'd thrive. 1304 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 4: I'd be like, no shower for a week, per I 1305 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 4: take out the contestants by not wearing deodorant like I 1306 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 4: would like, I'd be like I'm sending everyone home with 1307 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 4: my body odor. 1308 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm joking. 1309 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm joking. I would shower. 1310 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm joking. 1311 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 4: But like I would thrive in like a dirty environment. 1312 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 4: I really think I would, Like, I really think I 1313 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 4: would thrive. Like the bed thing doesn't bother. 1314 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 2: Me, Like what about pooping those stalls? 1315 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: Just knowing that you have to have a buddy would 1316 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: would bother me with the pooping. 1317 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 4: But like I'm also like constipated half the time, so 1318 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 4: I'm like I probably wouldn't poop the whole time. 1319 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 1: I'm there. 1320 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 3: Who's your like celebrity crush? 1321 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: Okay, very oh, this is gonna be like so on 1322 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 1: brand very specifically, Like it's Jake Jillenhall in the movie 1323 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,439 Speaker 1: Everest when he's got like the long hair and he's 1324 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 1: like like a mountain man. 1325 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm a Taylor Swift fan. 1326 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: So oh no, that's actually it's like specifically that movie character, 1327 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Okay, Oh, way, you've got 1328 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: an image like that right there, like sure, like I 1329 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: know that's why I'm like, I feel like. 1330 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 2: If there are someone who's not a character, okay. 1331 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Joe Jonas always was like she has ranged, 1332 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: she has range, And then Michael B. Jordan, I feel like, 1333 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: oh that's everyone I know. 1334 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 2: It's like, well, those are like the Jake Joenhill one 1335 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 2: through me, but the other two are very standardly yes, 1336 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 2: except yeah, okay, so Michael B. 1337 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 3: Jordan is your poop buddy at. 1338 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: No, I'm out, I'm tapping. I'm like, I will hold. 1339 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 2: It, Okay, I will hold it. How strong you are? 1340 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: No, oh my gosh, literally that would be like the 1341 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,959 Speaker 1: end of me. But like if you were there. 1342 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 2: But what about Jake John Hall and Everest. He seems 1343 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 2: like he'd be down to be your. 1344 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: Might not judge me, Yeah, that's actually he might like it, 1345 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: Like that would be that might be the love story, 1346 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 1: the love story. 1347 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 4: I would just tell whoever I'm with, I'm like, plug 1348 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,959 Speaker 4: your ears please, Like I just like don't even want 1349 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 4: the thought even like I get pea sh eye sometimes. 1350 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 4: So I think it would be a lot that that 1351 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 4: would be a hard part for me. 1352 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: But the sleeping, the being dirty. I think even. 1353 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 4: I'm talking a really big game, but I'm like getting 1354 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 4: dropped into cold water in a vehicle buckled in. I'm like, 1355 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 4: kind of sounds like a thrill. 1356 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I need to see you on this. This 1357 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 2: is a lot of This is a lot of confidence. 1358 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: I know, it really isn't I And I'm going to use. 1359 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 2: Our voiceover for your intro, this SloMo intro. 1360 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: I think a panic attack. Yeah, literally time. Yeah, I 1361 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: can't get it unbuckled. 1362 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on and being so 1363 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 2: open and sharing, and I just love you. I can't 1364 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 2: wait to see what your next reality journey is. 1365 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 4: Maybe something less than Special Forces, but not as sincere 1366 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 4: is the Bachelor. 1367 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: Somewhere in the middle, you know what is that? 1368 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 2: I think? What did you say? 1369 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: Road road Rules? 1370 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 3: Like the challenge? 1371 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like I haven't watched the challenge, Like I 1372 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 2: used to watch Road Rules, but I haven't watched the challenge. 1373 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: I've dabbled, but like not really but yeah, maybe something 1374 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: in the middle. We'll see. But Okay, I love you too. 1375 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. 1376 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 3: You're the best and we just wish you the best. 1377 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 3: What's where can people follow you? What's next for you? 1378 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 1: Just Susie c Evans on Instagram. Susie was like. 1379 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 4: TikTok and yeah, just figuring out the next steps in life. 1380 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 3: We love it. 1381 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: Bye bye