1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, rapp right up podcast, Elliot Wilson beat out What's Up? 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Baby good Man? Yeall put this guy in many magazine covers, 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: but this is only the second time I've seen him 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: in real life. It's the game man, schilling Man. Happy 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: to be here. I was really looking forward to doing this. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, congrats on the album and how 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: fulfilling is it for you? Like, you know, when you 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: think of the game, you don't think of singles, you 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: don't think of songs. Like you're an album's artist, right, 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: people that give bodies of work like talk about that, 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, prodely Man having that, and like how do 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: you then approach albums? I think like from the early 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: stages of my love for hip hop and uh we 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: even my father before hip hop, and he always had 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: like a CD case that was the road shotgun in 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: his Seville and his Cadillac. So it was like he 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: would have to pick the you know, CD case up 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: and then put in the back seat if you was 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: riding with him. So it's like you open the CD 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: case and he was real, O c D about you 21 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: know the Gap band on this page and then George 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Clinton on the next page, and you know he had 23 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: his early rap, the Sugar Hill Gang and all of that. 24 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: So once I are really getting the hip hop, you know, 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: my popsiblet me a CD case and then I would 26 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: have like, you know, uh, all Nass albums and you know, 27 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: the Chronic and the Chronic two thousand one and all 28 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: jay Z albums on the page, so that if my 29 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: homies came over, they're flipping through my CDs systhetically. It 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: was pleasing. So UM, that's why that's the number one 31 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: reason that um that I'm just the album guy. I 32 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: love like full bodies of work. I feel like UM. 33 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: And then back then, you know, like you really you 34 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: had to. You couldn't just drop a single, or you 35 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: could drop a single, you could drop the who let 36 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Them Dogs Out? And then or you could have been 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: like one of those artists that UM just is cemented 38 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: in like you know, hip hop forever. And I wanted 39 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: to be one of those artists. UM. So that's why 40 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: I was always important to me. I thought you retired 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: from the game though, man, from the last project. You 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: know what it is, man, is I try every time 43 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: to kind of step back, um, and really, and I 44 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: could easily just never rap again. But I got so 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: many people around me who believe, who really believe that 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm one of the best rappers ever ever, dead or alive, 47 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: and they really really believed that, and I noticed to 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: be true too. So I just you know, I come 49 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: back man every now. And your process, like putting out dramatic? 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Was it? Was it the take off when you and 51 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: he did the easy thing or did you already kind 52 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: of a Planum? So this is this nigga. Yeah, I 53 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: was working on my album and I was almost complete. 54 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: I was almost finished with it, and then he was like, yo, 55 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: he popped in. We did easy and he was like, yeah, 56 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to Miami. And I'm like, I'm in the 57 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: middle of the ALBUMY like I need you and that's 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: my brother. So I'm like, all right, we go to Miami. 59 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: We end up being in Miami for a month working 60 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: on working on down to Two and we got you know, 61 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: we got to complete. But then that was a month 62 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: that I took off of my album. So once Yea 63 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: came back to l A from you know, to see 64 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: his kids and stuff, I didn't know. I stayed in 65 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Miami because at that point I'm having fun. And then 66 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: after that I stopped by you know, Houston in New 67 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: Orleans and had some more fun. So I ended up 68 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: being gone for sixty days off my projects. So when 69 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: I came back, I was just like, I gotta like 70 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: get back into it. So I took like, you know, 71 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: maybe a week to just dive back into it, a 72 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: little uh um lyrical exercise, you know. I was doing 73 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: songs that wasn't per set for the album or just 74 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: to get back in the swing of things. And so 75 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: once I did that, it was another three months that 76 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: I needed to put the album out. And it was 77 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: basically basically based on sample clearances, which I might not 78 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: ever use a sample ever again in my life after 79 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: this album because um number one, I had thirty songs 80 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: on the album trying to clear I think maybe twenty 81 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: of them as samples in them. And samples are getting 82 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: so meticulous these days that it's not just like clearing 83 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: a whole sample, like it's you gotta go through the 84 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: writers and the producers, and some of these people can't 85 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: be found, and some of these people are no longer living, 86 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: and you gotta go through the states. And it could 87 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: be one high hat that is from something fifty years ago, 88 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: and if you don't find that you gotta pull the 89 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: whole sample. And they're getting tricky with like replaying stuff too, 90 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, interpolation, So it's like 91 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: it's just too tedious. So I think from here on out, 92 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go straight back to just raw hip 93 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: hop and just my voice, less features and less samples. 94 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: But this album came out incredible. That's why I pushed 95 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: it all the way for the last six months, six 96 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: seven months, and I'm just I'm just happy that that 97 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: it came together the way it did, and I was 98 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: able to keep almost every song that I recorded for it, 99 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: and that they all jailed the way they did. And 100 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: you shout it out, jay Z for helping you clear 101 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: seven samples on the right, Yeah, man, eight now eight 102 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: eight because at the end of the day, I used 103 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: the Father's prayer, which was, you know, I can't see 104 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: it coming down my eyes and make somebody's son cry um, 105 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: And so you got to clear that even if you 106 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: flip a word or something like that, and rightfully so, 107 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: because everybody should get what they deserve if that, you know, 108 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: if they were true to they aren't. And Thearra, the 109 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: originators of creating that content. Did you think that he 110 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: was going to get those clear for you? Um, because 111 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: of my tricky pass with throwing shots at um. You know, 112 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: I think at this point he knows that I have 113 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: grown and I have matured, and also of course he 114 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: has grown, and I mean he's own and been grown 115 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: in his wisdom. You know, Uh just by far is 116 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: it's whole man, you know what I'm saying. So he 117 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure from afar he sees my growth. We 118 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: have mutual friends with tim um for real, so he 119 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: knows what's up. And um, I just I was hoping 120 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: he cleared him. He cleared someone born to rap two. 121 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: So it wasn't like I didn't think he was, but 122 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: for him to be able to just be like what 123 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: do you say your game, I'm gonna give you like five, 124 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: like give you all of them. I mean, if you 125 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: hold you kind of got to clear everything done and 126 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: that type of guys or yeah, so, um, yeah he 127 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: cleared him. I was ecstatic about it and I'm forever grateful. 128 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: And I mean, you know the old me that took 129 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the shots at the home, and you know, I don't 130 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: regret anything like I did what I did and I 131 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: think that he understands that too. You know. I'm so 132 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: I was young, I was twenty and shooting, you know, 133 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: throwing rocks at the throne. Hope has always been at 134 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the top, and I've always been a fan, and so 135 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: even if I'm a fan, I can still challenge you. 136 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like if I feel like 137 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: if Floyd Mayweather could have really boxed Muhammad Ali and 138 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: his prime like, he would have done that. It's not 139 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: that he wants to go to war with Mommad Ali. 140 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: It's just that he's a fan and that guy is 141 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: that guy, So you always want to challenge that, you 142 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I started from Scritch to you 143 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: also referenced the conversation you guys had, and you said, 144 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: maybe I miss understood what he was trying to say, Like, yeah, 145 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: all right. So Jimmy Henchman, my brother, Jimmy Henchman, my 146 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: good brother man. Yeah, was my was my manager at 147 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: the time. Earlier on in my career. He took me 148 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: to the forty Club and I was so excited that 149 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: I was going to meet Jay Z and to go 150 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: to the forty forty Club. And I hadn't even um, 151 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: really I don't think I might not even been signed 152 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: the aftermath yet. But um, I went to the forty 153 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Club and if you know anything about it, at the 154 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: bottom there's this bar, you know what I'm saying. And 155 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: so I went straight in because we were told the 156 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: way that at the bar, Hove is in the meeting 157 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: with Leore and Kevin Loose and uh so I was 158 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: chilling at the bar, ended up having shots. So when 159 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: I went when I finally got to meet Hold, he 160 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: was upstairs or you know, I think in the room 161 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: playing a pool, playing on the pool. Take yea room. 162 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: And so I went in there and I was just 163 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: at that point I was excited, but still I was 164 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: like disoriented a little bit from my shots and a 165 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: little nebriated. So um, the things that he said got misconstrued, 166 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: and like I was like sort of offended by his 167 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: aggressive approach to teach me or to tell me, you know, 168 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: and uh, I took it the wrong way. And I 169 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: took it back to l A and just did some 170 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, some some cool for young nigger ship and 171 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: started throwing shots. But again, like I said, I don't 172 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: regret nothing. And then that was a moment and um, 173 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: I think that might have been one or two times 174 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: I've even ever even seen home in my life. So 175 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: and that's crazy, being that I've been in the game 176 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: twenty years. Almost remember what he said specifically that made 177 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: you feel that way. I don't remember verbatim, but it 178 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: was it was like some real good, older dope legendary advice. 179 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: But it was like it was coming from home, you 180 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, it was. It's like 181 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: if like Jesus really told about yourself, just like you 182 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: got drunk in the club. I spoke to you, like, nigga, 183 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: what you're doing. But it was something to the tune 184 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: of like, you know, uh, like the beefs and ship 185 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: that I was having early on in my career and 186 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: ship like that probably just was unnecessary and my money talking. 187 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: But you know, when you're young, you don't be trying 188 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: to hear that, you know what I'm saying. It's like 189 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: if I was in the room with like I don't know, 190 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: NBA young boy right now telling him to do this, 191 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: and that it would probably go in one ear and 192 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: one out there you know, and the other because he 193 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: young and he and his he in it. Once you 194 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: get older. That's why. That's what UH like, I hate 195 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times about hip hop as some of 196 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: these artists they die before they get a chance to 197 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: really grasp what it is that they need to enlife. 198 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: It's the untimely demises of bigginging pop too. You know 199 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: them are the most notable. And if you think about 200 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: being in pop and niggas was wearing suits and hard 201 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: bottom shoes to the club and versachi and and dressing 202 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: up like grown in and then think about years old though, 203 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, to be snatching some of 204 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: these pop artists off the planet before they get a 205 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: chance to mature. Um, me being forty two and looking 206 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: at that, knowing it, seeing it, it's just like I'm 207 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: looking the marry myself and I feel like totally blessed 208 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: because that could have been me and fifty easily. Is 209 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: that the reason why you decided to make a sequel 210 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: for Start from Scratch? Um? I think that Start from 211 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't really like sequels a lot. Sometimes when you 212 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: do something so great uh originally and it is uh, 213 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, like world renowned and people really love it 214 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: and appreciate it, that it should kind of be left alone. 215 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: But I was feeling myself one night in this studio, 216 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: in this room, and uh, I felt like there was 217 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: things that I needed to say. And so that was 218 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: the song that you know that I that I said 219 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: it on and I and I really I really liked 220 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: that song and I really feel like when I when 221 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: I hear it, I feel, um, I think about Prodigy, 222 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: I when I hear that song. And so that's why 223 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: I spoke, and it's the um you know, it's the 224 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: getaway had. It gave me my first beat ever that 225 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: I had from like a dope nigger in the game, 226 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: and I held it until I got signed the aftermath, 227 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: which is crazy, and me and Prodigy, you know, we 228 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: was always cool. He they started working with G Unit 229 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: for a minute and then we fell off a little bit, 230 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: obviously because of affiliation, but we got back right before 231 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: he passed, and I was real uh happy about that, man, 232 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: because I was really my dupe. You said you in 233 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: fifty like like, but the thing, the Unit thing when 234 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: you joined them, like I wanted to get your perspective, 235 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: like we hear about fifty hast the song ideas that 236 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, you you you build on and make, but 237 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: what was your whole perspective, like getting recognized in the 238 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: idea that you would join G UNIT at that time, UM, 239 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: for me to join G Unit, that was Jimmy Ivin's idea. Um, 240 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: fifty was um dope enough to entertain the idea and 241 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: allowed me to be a part of the group, which 242 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: which was dope for me because I was still working 243 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: on a documentary and you know, everybody knew who I 244 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: was from like the early on mixtapes, but then I 245 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: got you know me and that me and Ski in 246 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: New Jersey Devil did. But but then I got on 247 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: who Kid mixed tapes, and I started to get on 248 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Clue mix tapes and and and like, so fifty looked 249 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: out in that aspect. And plus it made sense. I 250 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: was from the West coast. They had Bucky was from 251 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: Nashville and Yayo Banks and fifty were from New York. 252 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: So it kind of gave us that you know, that 253 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: triangle of like the world and like America, because you 254 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: had the West, you had to eat of the South, 255 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: and so it only made sense. So it made sense 256 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: to him. It made sense to me because the Unit 257 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: at that time was like running and fifty was on 258 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: top of the World and then Dre got got to 259 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: relax and work on finished Get Richard Trying, and then 260 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: work on documentary while we were on tour and going 261 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: around can Koon and spring Break and doing all that. 262 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, when the conflict happened, like you know, you 263 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to go against Nas or Fat Joe people 264 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: are cool with like you seem like the rest of 265 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: the guys were all in for that type of stuff 266 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: that you think that was gonna end up being a 267 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: problem because you wasn't going to ride that way with 268 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: you know what it was is, Um, that ship could 269 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: have went either way because if me fifty and Banks 270 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: and yeah Yo and Buck were friends outside of music, 271 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: like it seemed that we were as like a group, 272 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: then I probably would have just rolled with the group. Um, 273 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: but we were just artists. Like I just felt like 274 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: I was game and I'm signed this unit. It wasn't 275 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: like I was with them niggas every day or we 276 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: was like breaking peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and half 277 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: and something like that. Like we were just it was 278 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: a business. I was just in a group. I wasn't 279 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: like with them niggas like you know you would think, Um, 280 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: so when it came to you know, I think it 281 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: was Flex asking me how I felt about you know, 282 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: fifties Beef with Nas and Jada Kiss and Fat Joe. 283 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, these as niggas that I was in 284 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: a trap, Like I'm bumping these albums, like I know 285 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: these niggas, and these albums have molded me to be 286 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: who I am before I even knew of a fifty 287 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: like I was. I was running Nas and running Fat 288 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: Joe and definitely running the Locks and Kiss and all 289 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: of that ship. So I felt like, nah, I can't 290 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: really do that because I was staying true to myself 291 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: And if I was a weird um, just a weak 292 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: bitch ass nigga, and I would have just been like, 293 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: oh fuck the niggas I grew up listening to, like 294 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: I don't have any times to them. But I really 295 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: felt indebted to Nas and Joe, even Joe from all 296 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: the way back to Digging in the Cratez, like I'm 297 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: a real hip hop niggers. So it was just Joe 298 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: and Punn and all that ship was really the soundtrack 299 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: to my to my my my teenagehood, and so I 300 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: couldn't just turn my back on the music that inspired me. 301 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: So that was where the conflicts started, right, speak of inspiration, 302 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: obviously talked about dramatic playoff Illmatic. I read that, you 303 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: know you have that title for a little dirt and yeah, 304 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: well he he didn't use it, understand. I felt like, yeah, 305 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: I talked to Dirk about it and he was like, yeah, 306 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: that's fire. I might funk with that, but like two 307 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: years passed and he didn't do nothing with it. So 308 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna just snatch that back real quick, 309 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: because I really liked that title. Plus the you know, 310 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: the New York drill, the Chicago drill, the London drill. 311 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: I felt like it was a drill time. And I 312 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: also wanted to make sure that anybody that was doing 313 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: drill music or in the drill music knows that Illmatic existed. 314 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: And like, so I wanted to sort of mesh old 315 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: cool a new school, and uh sort of put them together. 316 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: So that's why when you listen to album, you know, 317 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: you got your drill joints, you got your hip hop joints, um, 318 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: you got up tempo, you've got some slow joints. You 319 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: got chicks for the girls, You've got some East Coast Signership, Chicago. 320 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I got the Herbo album. And that's all I've ever 321 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: tried to do in hip hop and just bring it 322 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: all together for everybody, so that when I dropped an album, 323 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, like you get everything, like if you get 324 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: less and not to down nobody, but you know, if 325 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: you get a certain album from the South, you get 326 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: the South, you know what I'm saying, and you just 327 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: got to appreciate it in that aspect, And that's cool too. 328 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: But for me, I like to cover on basis like 329 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: I like to cover New York. I got Cam on 330 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: the album, got five Ye on the album. So if 331 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: you're from New York and you funk with them and 332 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: you funk with me, and you funk with New York, 333 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean that songs for you. If you're from the 334 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: Shy and you funk with me and you love g 335 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Herbo and you like Wayne and you got you know 336 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Chrome Slug. So it's just like I'm 337 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: always trying to try to do that. So that's why 338 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: when you look at my albums and you see multiple features. 339 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Number One, I'm a fan of many artists. I've always 340 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: been that. I came into it. I only start rapping 341 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: like when I was like twenty years old, so you know, 342 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't been wrapping my whole life. Never wanted to 343 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: be a rapper. I was hoping the gangbanging. But um, so, 344 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of nigga you know, of 345 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: rap niggas. So when I do my albums and I 346 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: hear a beat, I'd be like, yo, so and so 347 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: will sound good on this, and I reach out and 348 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: of course on me, so like niggas get down with me. 349 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: And and every time they, you know, step it up. 350 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: Um two Chains came in here and we did uh 351 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, no man falls and he was just like 352 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: every and the niggas do this a lot when they 353 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: get in on it, like I gotta wrap tonight, I 354 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: gotta really rap tonight. And so when he laid his verses, 355 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: I let him go first. You know what I'm staying. 356 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: And sometimes most times I'll write mine first because I know, 357 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: like I'm lyrical, I know where I'm gonna go with it. 358 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: But Chains got off first, and he just was so 359 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: proud of like his bars. And we were seeing that 360 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: mother going crazy because I was I was telling my 361 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: niggas like yo, Chains could really if he pushed to 362 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: the limit, he could really go there, and he did 363 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: on the album. So yeah, man, I'll just be a fan. 364 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: So a lot of features, a lot of you know, 365 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: name drops always gonna be the name dress one thing 366 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: that I've got doing the album. When I put out 367 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: the track listening, I was gonna literally count the name 368 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: drops myself and put a disclaimer under, like just so 369 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, there are three hundred and seventy seven name drops. 370 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted to know, like, how do you feel 371 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: about that? You know that's off the criticism throughout your 372 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: career the game name drops too much. I think that 373 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: if you listen to hip hop, everybody and every album 374 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: that everybody name drops now and before I came, niggas 375 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: wasn't doing it at the you know, in like in 376 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: the space that they are now. But everyone name drops. 377 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: It's it's wordplay, is lyricism, it's metaphors, and everybody has 378 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: adapted to it. I'm the one that you know gets 379 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: all the flat four, but I love it, like I'll 380 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: be I'll be saying his names like I want you 381 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: to know exactly what I'm talking about. You know what 382 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it's if the car black and they 383 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: calm it gets Also, what the title this is like 384 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: a subtitle Heart Versus Mind? Can you explain the meaning 385 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: behind that? All right? So again this is this is 386 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: a beautiful part about the album that, Um, I'm glad 387 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: that I'm here explaining uh to YouTube. Um. It goes 388 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: hand in hand with drill madic right because NAS has 389 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: always been um, very very lyrical, lyrically poetic and unapologetically 390 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: black and militant and five percenter and all of that, 391 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: all of the good things that we loved about hip hop, 392 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: the public enemy aspect of it, right, the Q tip 393 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: aspect of it, all of that, the roots, um, and 394 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, on the other side you have you know, 395 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: the drill. And so the drill was straight street straight. 396 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, you know what it is, man, It's it's 397 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: it's Drake goes and mayhem. You know what I'm saying. So, um, 398 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Heart versus Mind is simply this is. I got three children. 399 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: I love them to death, love them to death. And 400 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: so when I with my kids, man, I'm like, you know, 401 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: I'm holding my daughter's hand and I got on, you know, 402 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: my my shorts and my white tea and I'm just 403 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: out having a good day and I ain't got no 404 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: gun on me. I ain't got no nothing on me. 405 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm just enjoying my day with my daughter and I'm 406 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm peaceful and I'm at peace. At the same time, 407 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: I live in a city that is uh, you know, 408 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: took took the air out of Biggie's lungs and killed 409 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: Nipsey and killed Pop Smoke And even though Pop died 410 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: in Vegas, that was some l A ship. So I'm 411 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: very aware of where I'm from what niggas do here 412 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: when they're agitated and they're angry, and um, it's wolves 413 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: out here. So that is that is my mind, my mom. 414 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Like I know, I'm very very aware of what goes 415 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: down to l A. So I just can't not be 416 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: ready for war, you know what I'm saying. And I 417 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: don't want to be. I don't I don't want to 418 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: add no, I don't want to be for nobody, and 419 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to be having to, you know, cock 420 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: my gun in the light because it's two AM and 421 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm coming home from the club and I don't trust 422 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: niggas based off of the history of violence in this city. 423 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: And at the same time that might be a Saturday night. 424 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: In the next morning, I might get up and go 425 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: to church with my mama. But do would make me 426 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: any less gangster or any less of a good father 427 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: Because my heart is at war with my mind. I 428 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: feel like that is everybody, especially with everything going on 429 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: disease wise, and I've seen, you know, the fiery crash, 430 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, and in mid City the other day, and 431 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: everything going on with these mass shootings and all that. 432 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: It's like we are all every human on this earth 433 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: that has a heart and has a mind is a 434 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: war every day with how they feel about certain things. 435 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: We got people that you know, don't want to take vaccines. 436 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: We've got people that want to take vaccines. We've got 437 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: women who are pro abortion and women who you know, 438 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: are on the other side of that. It's just so 439 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: much war going on and internally with every single human 440 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: that it only felt right that I make my album 441 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: heart versus Mind, because I don't want to get caught 442 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: up in that. I don't want to be, you know, 443 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: stigmatized with the oh he always changed in his mind, 444 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: or I just want to be human. Like if I 445 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: put on this outfit and I'm look in the mirror 446 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: and it don't look right, and I go back and 447 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: put on a different outfit, Like I am I allowed 448 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: to be human, you know what I'm saying. I don't 449 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: want people to be to anybody why and this to 450 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: feel like they have to be a certain way, and 451 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: it's just not okay to change your mind, you know 452 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I want people to follow their 453 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: heart and not get not let the waves in their 454 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: brain confused the signals that are coming from God. So 455 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: I just want everybody to be at their best and 456 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: be at peace. But if you've got to go to 457 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: war to save your life for the livelihood of your family, 458 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: you must do that right. It makes me think of 459 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: universal love. The way you close the album, you know, 460 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: everything is calculated, man, And that's why I wanted that 461 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: to be at the end of the album because even 462 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: after all everything that happened and everything that transpired in 463 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: this uh, you know, within the confines of you know, 464 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: the structure of the album, I wanted to end it 465 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: with love. I just wanted to end it with love. 466 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: And so you know, uh brought in Janet and Cassie 467 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: did so Dope during the intro um and Chloe Bailey 468 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: and you know, Breezy gonna do his thing, man. But 469 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I again, I love uh s w V growing up, 470 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and the same thing 471 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: with the with Janet and Q Tip and that whole 472 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: Joni Mitchell vibe. So I just felt like that was 473 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: just a dope song to an album with and I 474 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: really love that song. I love to shoot a video 475 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: to that. There's still some hate though, man, Like on 476 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: Twister you talk about you still don't funk with your brother, 477 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: but you made up with your sister. Yeah, why is that? Um, 478 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: it's just family, familieship. Yeah, it's just famili shit. It's uh, 479 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, Uh, it's we are indifferent about a lot 480 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: of things. And I don't know if you know, will 481 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: ever be mented. But at the same time, I got 482 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: brothers that are not blood that are my brothers too. 483 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes you you know, in life, and it's tragic 484 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: when it has to be a cane and able type 485 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: of situation. But um, at this point that's pretty much 486 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: what that is, so big you're so I just leave 487 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: it there and and it's it's And I still wish 488 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: him and his family peace and all that, because, like 489 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: I said, it's a it's a hard versus mind thing 490 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: with me and and currently sitting in this chair right now, 491 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't wish harm or any type of weird negative 492 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: vibes on anybody on like into anybody's lives on earth, 493 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: because I'm at peace, you know what I'm saying. And 494 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: me saying that I still don't funk with him is 495 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: the truth. It's not a lie. I don't so, but 496 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that, you know, I don't have an 497 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: ample amount of love in my heart for him and 498 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: and and you know his family and all that. I 499 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: just with some peace, But I'm gonna do it from 500 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: like over here. How disappointed at you that this Dipsey 501 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: Hustle collapse didn't make the album? Like what happened? Um? 502 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: I think I don't know, man, I just I don't know, 503 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't clear the samples, and like I said, 504 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: we had a lot of sample uh sample trouble. I 505 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: just know, Um, if Nip was here, there's no way 506 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: that he wouldn't be on the game album. Um. And 507 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what happens with who owns whatever, and 508 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't even want to get into that 509 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: somebody didn't clear it. But that's cool, though I'm not. 510 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm not even mad at it. I understand because, like 511 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: I said, everyone's gotta do what they gotta do for 512 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: the betterment of you know, their situation. But the albums incredible. Still, 513 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: um Nipp's birthday, you know what I'm saying, Love him 514 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: with love him, love him to death. All is gonna 515 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: love him from the first time that I met him, 516 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: when the world didn't know who he was, and I did. 517 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: For God, yo, I swear man. I literally pulled up 518 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: on that man and then brought him to the studio 519 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: and took you know him on tour and showed him, 520 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, the ropes of the you know, the beginning 521 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: stages of hip hop. And I again, I hate that 522 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: he's not here. And then he died in the city. 523 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: And so yeah, my heart versus my mind still because 524 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: I made it to forty two and that ship. It's 525 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: not easy here. Yeah, there was a line you said 526 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: on Liveland, like how you wish both of you guys died, 527 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: Like do you feel like you died? When that I 528 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: feel like a part of me did because he was 529 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: the opposite, rag version of what I was, even though 530 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: I'm you know, uh However, many years older like Nip 531 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: came and he serviced uh that little small gap that 532 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: Snoop left open for the next you know, uh Crip 533 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: in l a that was gonna come to prominence on 534 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: the hip hop scene. What was that like for you 535 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: to be that the guy that broke the West Coast, 536 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: to be that West Coast superstar like at that time 537 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: with documentary, it was it was overwhelming. It was I 538 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: opening because I had a had a I had a 539 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: way that I thought rapping hip hop was and the 540 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: industry was. And I was like a little bit heartbroken 541 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: when I came in and I saw like that it 542 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: wasn't as real as I thought it was. I think 543 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: my first I think my first uh, my first instance 544 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: where I felt like I was in a video game 545 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: was when I went to the BT Awards and when 546 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: I went to the bathroom and came back, it was 547 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: models in my seat to fill my seat for the camera. 548 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this ship is like okay, all right, um, 549 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: And then you know other instances, but man, for the 550 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: most part, like I really just came in trying to 551 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: tell my story. I didn't know. I never thought that 552 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: I was gonna be as big as I was. I 553 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: set up, I had goals. My goal was to get 554 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: me an apartment that was a little bit far from 555 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: confident so I could have some peace, um because I 556 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: hadn't known that up until that point. Um. And to 557 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 1: get an escalator. I want to escalate so bad, and 558 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: I just wanted to. I want to put that more 559 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: fun on some twenty twos, and I wanted to I 560 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: want the tires to go flat, and I wanted some 561 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: Internet so I could like play madd And that's all 562 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: those are my Those are my goals, like literally my 563 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: whole hip hop goals. I wasn't trying to be no legend. 564 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to carry West Coast. I was literally 565 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: just trying to be like comfortable in life and have 566 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: an escalator so I could just dip through all black 567 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: chrome rims. That just that would have did it for me. Man, 568 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: I could have stopped there and been cool. You ever, fully, 569 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: even processing like you're making this album with Dre like 570 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: the final like mixing and all that type of stuff, 571 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: are you thinking like this album is gonna change the world. 572 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: When you're at that stage of it. I knew the 573 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: album was dope, and I was too uh, it was 574 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: too premature for me uh in my rap career because 575 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about Like I still didn't know 576 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: much about like the format, the song format when I 577 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: when I signed a DR DRE, I didn't know that 578 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: you had to stop at sixteen bars for that to 579 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: be a regular formula diverse, and I thought the hook 580 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: was like some ship you throw at a fish, or 581 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: like Nigga boxing. I know I sound like idiotic, but 582 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm here and so if you thinkape so look, if 583 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: you ever heard my mixtapes before I was signed an aftermath, 584 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: I was just wrapped for so long. That's why I'm 585 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: known for a hundred bars because nigger I did not 586 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: know when to stop and so my bo so I'm 587 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: freestyle and and and Nigga is on the East Coast 588 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: thinking that there's a freestyle, but for real, my hook 589 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: in there somewhere. But I know you're supposed to bring 590 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: it back any times. Like I just didn't know a 591 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: song for Matt Man. And when I actually learned, I 592 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: looked back and I kind of appreciated all my freestyles, 593 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: but I felt like I felt like an asshole for 594 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: not knowing song format. You know, but that was just 595 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: how much of a project baby I was. Would you 596 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: talk about your legacy? I saw he tweeted one time 597 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: you said, you don't know how many favorite West Coast 598 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: artists you had a hand and putting on you'd ask 599 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: for no finders feeding things like that. Who are some 600 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: of those artists that you feel like you don't get 601 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: enough credit for? Um, it's not it's not so much 602 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: about like I found you or I did it, but 603 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: like I definitely was there for you know, Top Dog 604 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: and Kendrick and and and and Jay rocking them all 605 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: that whole movement. Um, I used to be in like 606 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: I was, you know the documentaries I would I used 607 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: to be in at Top Dog's house, uh, with my 608 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: homie Tommy tom in uh, you know, in top Dog Studio, 609 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: just you know, fly on the wall and getting an 610 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: input top Dog to tell you all this ship. And 611 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: then you know Nip. I pulled up on Nip, you know, 612 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: numerous times on Crenshaw before he was rapping, and then 613 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: actually um when he started rapping, when he actually had 614 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: a CD. Before that, it was just pulling up and 615 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: seeing him out there selling and hustling, doing whatever he 616 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: had to do. Um, but yeah, man, you know, uh 617 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: glasses Malone, early stages and glasses and like a lot 618 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: man like Simba been rising lately having I've been having 619 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Simba in here, and he'd been doing the ship. I 620 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: had him in my show. I let him get that 621 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: freestyleg off. But and it's not so much of me 622 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: like letting or saying I did this. It's just so 623 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: much that I've always been an open book. You know 624 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: Ty Dollar Sign when he was doing you know, the 625 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: whole jerk thing and all of that, before you know 626 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: it was popping popping, I was in the studio with 627 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: Ty and just always been an open My door always 628 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: been opened for anything on the West Coast to just 629 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: come through and soak some game up or just catch 630 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: a vibe. I've always been that guy, man, And I've 631 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: always really really really looked out for people. And I 632 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: don't need I don't need nothing for it. Like the niggas, 633 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: everybody know what it is. With me, it seems like 634 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: a little bit reluctant to embrace this like legend status 635 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: is like gonna talk to me nice, you say how 636 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: you Grahamy nominated for a million records? So but that's 637 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: not what a legend is so I assume you're talking 638 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: about yourself. So what is a legend you don't consider 639 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: yourself for on the legend I can well, I do. 640 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: I do consider myself a legend, but not for the 641 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: reasons that most people my consider themselves a legend. Number One, 642 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: before I was ever a rapper, like, I was already 643 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: a legend in my hood for the various things that 644 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: I did around there. Um and then just my heart, 645 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: like I got a legendary heart just just for helping 646 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: people in and putting people on. Everybody around me has 647 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: enough room to flourish and make something out of that existence. 648 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: And um, that that is legendary. To be a father, 649 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: To have a kid in college right now, just leaving 650 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: in two weeks to go back to college and him 651 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: making it out his first year, that is legendary. There's 652 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: so many young African American men. And when I say young, 653 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean under the age of fifty, right, because if 654 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, we live into a hundred that at a 655 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: hundred years old at having a good life, that fifty 656 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: would be the middle So that's still fairly young. Eight 657 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 1: year old man. Ain't gonna look at the fifth year 658 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: old man to call him an old man. So um, 659 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: just to be on earth still, to be standing, to 660 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: be you know, all my limbs, to be working and 661 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: and just be able to wake up every day, breathe 662 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: appreciate and still do. Legendary ship on every level and 663 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: in the aspect of my life as legendary to me, 664 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: it ain't so much about the music being legendary, and 665 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: music is critiqued by fans and the powers that be, 666 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I feel like I've I feel 667 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: like I've really sustained a very illustrious hip hop career 668 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: over the last twenty years. It's just or ten albums 669 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: and I don't put out I don't put out trash. 670 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: I put out complete bodies of work, and I get 671 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: my fans what they deserve every single time, give or 672 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: take a few little down moments. But I put out classics. 673 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: And to be putting out another classic, this album, this 674 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: Dramatic Ship is a classic, and putting out a classic 675 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: twenty years later after putting out a classic is sucking 676 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: outstanding And as some legendary ship, you work with another 677 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: legend hit boy who's executive produced on Dramatic Did you 678 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: want to use other producers instead of relying just on 679 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: the hit Boy man hit Boy. When you do when 680 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: hit Boy do album, ain't nobody producing on the album 681 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: except hit Boy, just know that. But hit Boy we 682 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: had a hit Boy got a good rapport with you know, 683 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: my other my other producers, you know, Big Dude and 684 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: Chill Chiller, um and this uh Davon and so we 685 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: we we we keep a family atmosphere, you know what 686 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying that. So hit was just all the way 687 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: down with you know, executive producing an album and allowing 688 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying and being down with other 689 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: producers doing a thing. There was never a point where 690 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: he was like, I can't do this. We had a 691 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: conversation about it. He like, yo, you know I usually 692 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: don't even you know, yeah, produced albums that have other 693 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: producers on it. Um yeah, and as rightfully so as 694 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: hit Boy. But um with me, I think again, I 695 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: funk with him at the early stages of his career too, 696 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: and we did work way back in the day. So 697 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: it's it's that love, you know what I'm saying that 698 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: I spent me and hit Boy pops. We we you know, 699 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: we down um so loved the big hit and UM yeah, 700 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: man like, it's just always a good family vibe with me. 701 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, hit Boy came in and we did our things, 702 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: but he overseen everything that I did, and if it 703 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: wasn't up to par or he didn't like the song, 704 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: he said it and we snatched it because at the 705 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: end of the day, it was a hip boy. He 706 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: could do six officially, but you're saying his hands was 707 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: on everything Head Boy did about I don't know thirty songs, 708 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: but you know, for the format and and the UM basically, 709 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: you know what I was doing with the album, dramatic 710 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: and hard versus mind like and in the sample clearances like, 711 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: we put on the album the thirty best songs that 712 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: we thought would fit UM and they jailed together and 713 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: I feel confident that we did an amazing job. Drake 714 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: with the praise, didn't make no joke, came through with 715 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: sixteen bars and excuses. You know what that look, that 716 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: was a good voice. That voice memo, That was a 717 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: real voice memo. Yeah that. But see, one thing about 718 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: Drake Man is like, that's that's my dog man he 719 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: he um. If you haven't ever met him, man, that's 720 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: he one of the most humble, coolest billionaire airs that 721 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: don't even want to be known as a billionaire that 722 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: you've ever gonna meet. I got nothing but love for Drake. 723 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 1: Every time we see each other. It feels brotherly him, Chubb, Forty, 724 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: the whole, you know, Nico, all those guys. Man, those 725 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: are all my guys. And I'm definitely riding for Drizzy 726 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: because was one of my favorite video and Compton like yeah, 727 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: he was like man, yeah, man, Drake came. I ain't 728 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: out for a day. I read an I g post 729 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: to that you for this album. You pulled over on 730 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: Librea to right round. You said you haven't done that love. Man. 731 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: I have to read that since like the documentary or something. 732 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I wrote I don't need your love in 733 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: the car like that, um in Beverly Hills and the 734 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: Wiltshire Corridor, And I told myself when I wrote it, 735 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm gonna get one of these 736 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: condos after my album dropped and I end up doing that. 737 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: Um but yeah, I pulled over on the bread one 738 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: day because I was just like, I just gotta stop 739 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 1: and write this now, go all the way home. I'm 740 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna not be in a move, you know. Um 741 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: So I stopped, and you know, people came by and 742 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: he was honking, and you know, but yeah, I got 743 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: it done. And I literally because I had been struggling 744 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: with writing the verses for that for like a week, 745 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: because I couldn't figure out how I wanted to approach it, 746 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to leave anything out. Um, I 747 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that I had all of the 748 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: current events in there, the Vality thing and then the 749 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: Buffalo ten and all of that, and like I needed 750 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: to pull over and get that off. And by the 751 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: time I was there for like two or three hours, 752 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: and after I left, I had the song done and 753 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: came straight here and did it. That's one thing I 754 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: noticed about the album, like it seems very relevant, like 755 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: heart versus My Ofference, that's my favorite one of them 756 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: recorded yesterday because you have like Beyonce references and like 757 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: a little controversial kind of Yeah. Well, I told I 758 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: had a conversation with Mustard about being a part of 759 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: the album because I like this West Coast. I'd like to, 760 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, bring in as many West Coast powerhouses as 761 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: I can. So Mustard was like, yo, when hit me 762 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and I'm gonna just give you 763 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: one beat and he was like, wanted to be the 764 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: title track, and I was like all right, and he 765 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: then so I explained the concept to him and uh, 766 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: I told him what it was and he held he 767 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: held that beat for me and he gave it to me. 768 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: And I came in on the last day that I 769 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: could record, on the last day that Jason Joshua was 770 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna mix anything, and uh so that's why everything in 771 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: there is just so so current and uh and it 772 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: was dope because the album was coming out the next 773 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, next Friday, and I got to uh service 774 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: um Brittany Grinder and there the way that I wanted 775 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: to um and I got to get everything that was, 776 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, on my mind that night in real time 777 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: out in the next week. So that was dope. I know, 778 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: I want to know what's on your mind with you 779 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: and them. And then then the Black Slim Shady what's 780 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: the reason for going that eminem um just because nobody 781 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: does number one number two? I pissed off a lot 782 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: of people with that song. Uh, you know, M got 783 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: a lot of stands. But as far as like it 784 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: being personal, like it's not personal, like you know, I 785 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: like I came up on them too, Like I remember 786 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: the first time that you know, Hi my name is 787 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: you know came out, I was like whoad by it. 788 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: I felt the same feeling when I heard that that 789 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: I felt when I heard Juicy from Big the first time. 790 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like when Juicy came out, 791 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: I was in the tenth grade and I was walking 792 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: out to lunch and they would play music in the 793 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: quad area and that ship came on and niggas didn't 794 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: know who or what the funk that was, but we 795 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: never heard a sound like that in my life. And 796 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: so when I heard high my name is Slim Shady, um, 797 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: I felt the same way. So yeah, you know, I 798 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: always funked with him, and then you know the whole 799 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: aftermath and the shady thing, and he was on the documentary. Um, 800 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: I think me and fifties fallout kind of made him 801 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: choose aside and he wasn't doing that ship that I did. 802 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: He like, I'm going with fifty niggas. But but but 803 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, I had some emotions, 804 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: you know a little bit about like the super Bowl 805 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: ship and all of that, and then you know that's 806 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: like Drey's Boy and Drey don't wrap. So it's like, 807 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, if I want to, you know, have a 808 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: conversation with Dre or I'm mad at Dre, like let 809 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: me poke shots to eminem and then fifty can't out 810 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: wrap me. So it's just like, you know, he's doing 811 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: his TV thing, and you know, more power to him. 812 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: The shows are great, but as far as like rap ship, 813 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: like I got that locked, and so the only person 814 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: that I could rap with or try to poke the 815 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: bear and see if like he really want to, you know, 816 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: go there is him. Because it's it's him. So you 817 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: understand why people might call you out on your hypocrisy 818 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: because they put out You put out a list like 819 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot last year about your favorite rappers or type 820 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: rappers and was like at number four, So people are 821 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: just kind of questioning, Yeah, that that's cool. But as 822 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: and and I mean, you're laughing, but we had already 823 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: covered this when I said my heart be at world 824 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: my mind and so it's yours and I'm pretty sure 825 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: there is you know, uh an m c out that 826 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: you might have thought was number one at one time, 827 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: that is not your favorite anymore. It's just is what 828 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: it is. And then another thing is that, Like again, 829 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: it's the it's the Floyd Mayweather and you know, Mom 830 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: and Ali thing. It's like, if he's number four and 831 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm number one for me, why wouldn't 832 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: I just take a shot or challenge everybody in the 833 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: top ten? Why why not? When you are on the 834 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: boxing level when I love boxing and I love the 835 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: competitive nature of it, and I also love the rankings 836 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: and how you rise up. If you met Floyd Mayweather 837 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: when you were you know, coming up in the Olympics 838 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: and then you ended up, you know, being undefeated, and 839 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: now you have a chance to fight him, you're gonna 840 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: turn down the fight because you're a fan or you're 841 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: gonna not Are you not training to be better than 842 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather? If if he is undefeated fifty and oh, 843 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing? It wasn't it's with 844 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: with him, you know specifically, It wasn't a personal thing. 845 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: It's just that, like, you know, I did it with 846 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: Hope when I was younger. Sometimes you shoot shots, but 847 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: hip hop gotta be interesting these niggas these days, and 848 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: so goddamn boring. Or every time somebody want to be 849 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: or every time somebody want to be somebody gotta die 850 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: or some ship, like I don't get that, like what 851 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: happened to just like you know mc shannon, like krsive 852 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: is still alive, both of them, and it was just 853 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: like you know, the bridges over these days might get 854 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: nigga shot the funk up, you know what I'm saying. 855 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: But you don't always gotta be like that. Sometimes ladies 856 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: and gentlemen is just hip hop and you can leave 857 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: it at that. It's like if I see them, I'm 858 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: not fighting eminem like you know. So it's just even 859 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: the last top you had a song called the Light, 860 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: I felt like you was challenging people like step up 861 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: to take the light, like I think Young wants an opponent. 862 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: You want to I always want to appall. I always 863 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: want to opponent, and right now, like you know, Lyrically, um, 864 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: outside of like um, I don't know, maybe like m 865 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: or Kendrick or Cole or you know, one of these 866 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: super lyrical niggas, Like I don't think nobody like lyrically 867 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: can really go with me, you know what I'm saying. 868 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: Then outside of the lyrics, like I'm really with the 869 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: ship too, So it's like, you know, it's just I 870 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: don't know, but yeah, my favorite and my favorite MC 871 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: as far as lyrically like lyrical ability goes like right 872 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: now and been that way and the nigga you really 873 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: don't I want to really piss off or go there 874 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: with his Wayne. Yeah, Wayne is Wayne different and that's 875 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: my brother. You can say there was a great moment 876 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: when you put him out in your show in l 877 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: A that and he just went like he took the 878 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: shirt off. He wasn't the full concert mode like it 879 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: was insane. I gonna do that if he feels you know, 880 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: if he if he loves you man, And that's and 881 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: Ea too. You know what I'm saying. Those are my dudes, man, 882 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: and I'm really indebted to both of them because Wayne 883 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: never told me no for nothing, and neither of you. Yeah, 884 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: I want to go back to DR's advocate and like, 885 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: people don't realize that if you look at your career. 886 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: Obviously your longevity celebrated now, but you know you face 887 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: to me adversity. The only thing I think probably similar 888 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: would be when ice Cube left in w A right 889 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: where it's like you're not longer down with the unit, 890 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: no more you beat with fifty. They take you off 891 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: after math and you gotta go figure it out, right, 892 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: doctor's advocate, like talk about putting that process together. And 893 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: like I remember the coach here at the time, there 894 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: was a lot of doubting of you that you could 895 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, anybody that doubted me after the documentary 896 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: was a fool, because I really did that album by 897 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: myself for the most part. I think the last fourth 898 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: quarter I went to Connecticut and Mike Tyson's old house 899 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: the fifty had, and and then we did the few 900 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: songs that um Me and fifty did. But I had 901 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: already had how we do um written and recorded. I 902 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: had Hated Love It written and recorded from I got 903 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: that you know beat from Cool Andre. I had that 904 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: written on the way and I remember right now in 905 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: the sprinter in the snow going to Connecticut, UM and 906 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: fifty is like, uh, hook genius here, melody genius. So 907 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: when I got there with the beats, um like he 908 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: just put his melodic tone and his verses on the 909 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: songs and he did his thing, because we were unstoppable 910 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: once we dropped them songs like that ship was just 911 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 1: the perfect icing on a fucking on a hip hop cake. 912 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm ever, I'm forever indebted to him 913 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: for that moment that we created. Um, he asked whole 914 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: he did. He do a lot of boy ship, and 915 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: but so do I. And so that's why it was like, 916 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: that's why it's always gonna be a game and fifty thing. 917 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: And I would think that press conference, but you know 918 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: what fifty fifty was. He was genuine on that day 919 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: and I was still an asshole. He was now he 920 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: was way more genuine, way more mature than me here 921 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: a little bit older than me too. And but the 922 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: but see, one thing about fifty fifty always understood the uh, 923 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: the business aspect from the beginning. I came in not 924 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: really giving a funk about nothing, Like I didn't care 925 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: about I just didn't give a funk about paperwork and 926 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: business and what this. Uh, if I did this, it 927 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: was gonna sunk up this deal fifty was doing even 928 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: but like from vitamin water like the early days, uh, 929 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: the g unit clothing like this nigger was on it 930 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: business watch from the beginning. So he knew what that 931 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: press conference was gonna do. He knew he knew that 932 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: it would suck up if we didn't get it right, 933 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: that there would suck up money and uh, I didn't care, 934 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: and so you could see the look on my face. 935 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: And if you really look at fifty, you can tell 936 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: that he was genuine and I commend him for that 937 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: on that day to um, but from then to now, 938 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: like you know, fifty fifty, no man, he asshole man. 939 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: He did a lot of asshole ship. But with DRS Advocate, 940 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: you're not getting no Dre beats though, like you approach 941 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: making that album. Uh, before I knew Dre, I have 942 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: a Dre beat. The reason that Dre signed me was 943 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: because I was dope without a Dre beat and so 944 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: uh not taking away from his mastermindus or anything that 945 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: he's ever done for me, because Dre is nigga Dr 946 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: Dre like Dre put the stamp on you. You know 947 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: what it is. Um, he did it for Kendrick, he 948 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: did it for Pockety, did it for Snoopy, did it 949 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: for him, he did it for fifty. Nigga Dr Dre 950 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: is always gonna be Dr Dre. And for me, he's like, um, 951 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: what what Quincy Jones was too soul music? Like it's 952 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,959 Speaker 1: it's Dre. So you got these guys like you got 953 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: Quincy Jones, you got the line of Richies, you got 954 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: the Doctor Dre's, you got the Farrells, the Timberlins, the 955 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: Swiss Beats, and now you you know the hit boys, 956 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of you know, a slew of producers. 957 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: I'm leaving out, but you get what I'm saying when 958 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: I when I when I say that, like Dre is 959 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: Dr Dre, it will never be another Doctor Dre m 960 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: and you you would want to have him um as 961 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: a part of anything that you're doing, versus not having him. 962 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: So it wasn't my choice. It was just my attitude's choice. 963 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: And now, um the label Interscope and Jimmy Iveen, Doug, 964 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: Doug Morrison and Universal had to ride with the nigga 965 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: who was bringing the you know, moving the real units 966 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: um and documentary so well, but get Richard trying was 967 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: you know some other ship um and not And nobody 968 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: did that until I mean nobody had did that since 969 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: Eminem over there. So yeah, they had to ride with fifties. 970 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: So I went to New York by myself and I 971 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: was in Sight. I was in Sony Studios and I 972 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: recorded my most West Coast album in Sony Studios at 973 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: the bottom and had Nas come through and Buster and 974 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: we got in Jamie Fox and we got that song. 975 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: I mean, we got that album done, and uh, it 976 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: was just because I was so on it to prove 977 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: that I don't need these niggers, because I really didn't 978 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: and even know and I hate to sound like that, 979 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: but I never just needed anybody outside of like my 980 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: father in life, like I don't need niggas. I will adapt. 981 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: It's dope to have niggas, and it's dope to like 982 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: do it in a group being you know, have a 983 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: group effort and and be and have iconic heads around 984 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: to make it better. But if I don't got nobody nigga, 985 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna get it done. Like I'm a man 986 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and I'm gonna get 987 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: it done. You thought that was One Blood, Like I 988 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: was mad as the motherfucker when I did One Blood, man, 989 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: And I remember this, uh the bet I brought to 990 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: me and it was on a beat c D with 991 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: like um dirty beats on it, and one Blood was 992 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: the last beat. And I don't even know why I 993 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: listened all the way through, because usually I'll be like 994 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: I skipped, you know, and I'll be like, a, yeah, cool, 995 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: I just might have to just pick cuter because I 996 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: don't want to hurt the nigger feelings. But my dog 997 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: Reef came with One Blood and uh I recorded my 998 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: fucking like four minutes four like literally winning there and 999 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: damn down their freestyle diverse and then she pulled it 1000 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: off with all those artists because that's what I do. 1001 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's always popped out because 1002 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: once I got a few niggers on, I'm just like, nah, 1003 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: he get him, get bro. I just got everybody on it. 1004 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: That song was so big. I mean I used to 1005 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: walk in the club with Jones um in New York. 1006 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: We go Brooklyn, Harlem, we go Bronx, we go everywhere. 1007 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,720 Speaker 1: Joe took me out to the the club and the Bronx 1008 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: one time and we're just that ship was going up, 1009 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: man Like One Blood was like that really gave me 1010 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: my New York just experience that I'll never forget those times. Man, 1011 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: That's why I love New York the way I do 1012 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: staying in New York. Man on save the Best for 1013 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: Last on this new album, we talk about you wanted 1014 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: to run up a fabulous um it wasn't that I 1015 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: wanted to. It was just that like I was a 1016 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: hood nigga from l A and out here nigga we 1017 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: like niggas rob niggas. So um, I had no id saw. 1018 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: I had saw Fab outside of this hotel to learn 1019 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: mantage um and he was just standing there and me 1020 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: and my nigga was like we used to just wait 1021 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: outside of hotels and see who we could. You know, Rob, 1022 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: are you game at this point? Like are you are 1023 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: you a rapper? Are you Like I'm like just starting 1024 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: to rap. I ain't nothing worthy. You know, you're not 1025 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: signed or anything like that. No, I'm not signed like 1026 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: that and so um, and you know, we wasn't trying 1027 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: to like, you know, hurt nobody. Nigga just running niggas 1028 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,439 Speaker 1: for Jews. And I'm not saying that like Fab ain't 1029 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 1: no punk or nothing like that, but um, he was 1030 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: just he was standing out there and you know what 1031 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm like, you know, my nigga was just like, oh, 1032 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 1: that's Fab right there. And because I'm like, I'm gonna 1033 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: tell you what happened because it was fat and I 1034 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: had listened to motherfucking Superman Little Mold Superman and I 1035 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: couldn't know nig gets to be laughing. But I'm telling 1036 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: when I tell these stories, it's it's literally like slum 1037 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: Dog Millionaire. You ever seen that movie. Moments in my 1038 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: life that like just are really just dominant as far 1039 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: as like remembrance that like keet me from doing fun sometimes. 1040 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: So I was like, nah, nig I set up in 1041 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: my fucking trap spot and watched this nigga get this 1042 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: ship off on his most song, on his little most 1043 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: song and his video on one or six in Park, 1044 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: and that's somewhere I strived to be. So I just 1045 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't work with that if you had 1046 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: conversation and so um, what happened was once I actually 1047 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: met Fab through my nigga T Mills Um Tracy Mills 1048 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 1: and uh, you know because the nigga used to wear 1049 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: the jersey all the time. And so once I met Fab, 1050 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, Nigga, this ship crazy, like he don't even 1051 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: know like I had, I had to drop and and 1052 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: and anybody could have had to drop on anybody. This nigga. 1053 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: He was in l A, I'll be in New York. 1054 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 1: Niggas feel like they got to drop I'm out of 1055 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 1: my envelope. Niggas, could you know? I had to drop. 1056 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: But but after that, me and Fab became friends. We 1057 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: did the Compton Versus Brooklyn mix tape with Clue, and 1058 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: then I went to New York and Fab was the 1059 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: first nigga I've ever seen in the Bentley coup ever 1060 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: ever nigga was in Brooklyn and the Bentley Coop. We 1061 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: went up to, uh the roof and we're just chilling. 1062 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: I think he might have been shooting, like the I 1063 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: can't remember what video you shooting something. But I just 1064 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: felt like, Damn, this nigga really getting money, you know 1065 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that, And in my back, in the 1066 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: back of my mind, I was always like, damn, I'm 1067 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: so glad that, you know, I made a decision that 1068 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: I made because I was really up, you know, a 1069 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: fan So yeah, man, that's funny because Ross is on 1070 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: that same record, Uh say the Best for Last, and 1071 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: you said you kind of would have got a Ross 1072 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: too at one point. No, no, I said that. After 1073 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 1: I said the fan ship, I was like, we became friends, 1074 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: and so I said, I bought some shelves and some 1075 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: chalk too for opening up doors. That cost him may 1076 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: back just to walk through, meaning that I got my 1077 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: niggas back, now you know what I'm saying. So yeah, 1078 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: I do want to know what happened at Drey's crip 1079 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: on Labor Day weekend? Though what I remember on Russ's 1080 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: project on Chump Too, you said, act Ray, what I 1081 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: happened to his crib on Labor Day weekend? Oh yeah, yeah, man, 1082 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna say that. One man said, I haven't. 1083 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna we're gonna say that. With man, I'll 1084 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: be an open book. Except yeah, yeah man. Next going 1085 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: back to five, He's one of these rappers game that 1086 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: maddened me to this day because I didn't get him 1087 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: a double XL cover. He gave me about four covers. Man. 1088 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to see if you have any memories. I 1089 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: know every right here. This was shot in l A. 1090 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: We shot this in l A. This is a proud moment. 1091 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: I remember how how how how much sweat this bandanna 1092 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: was catching. What I'm saying it was it was hot 1093 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: as hell in his jacket, it was it was like 1094 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: a sunny day too. But then on the whole coat 1095 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: and uh, you'll remember this day man, and uh, yeah, 1096 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: this was dope for me, man, real dope. I'm gonna 1097 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: tell you my version of it. I had a ludicrous 1098 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: I was trying to do a ludicrous CHANI cover, yeah, 1099 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 1: because that'd be for Luda. For some reason, they agreed 1100 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: to do that. But then they said they insisted after 1101 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: we had the meeting to say they had to ask 1102 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: Shauna to it. So I told them, ff them, and 1103 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: then I have no cover. Then I'm looking at all 1104 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: hip hop and they're like saying even busting rhyme signed. 1105 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: In the aftermath, I'm like, fox, I make the call. 1106 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: I called him. Drey says yes, but he's like, you 1107 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: gotta put my nigg in the game on the cover. 1108 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's hard. So I was like and then, um, 1109 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: you was g Unit. So drear the gunit shirt the 1110 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: police fifty at the time. That's why Drey's went a 1111 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: g Unit T shirt from the cover. Oh that's dope, 1112 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: you know that's that's that's some real doctor with snoop. 1113 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I got permission. I just went for it. Yeah. 1114 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: I wasn't together, right, your guys weren't together for that. 1115 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it was shot. I believe I think 1116 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: they shot Snoop and then shot me, and but we 1117 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: both knew probably had Snoop. But I love Snoop. But 1118 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't know if it was hot enough at 1119 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: the time and you were shaking off, I was like, yeah, no, no, 1120 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: this is one of This is a moment where I 1121 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: really felt like I was really doing something because I 1122 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: got to stand next to next to dog and uh, 1123 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: Snoop is is number one in my book. And you know, 1124 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: it's not even like you know who, like who your 1125 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: favorite rapper or who your favorite lyricists, or who your 1126 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: favor No, Snoop is just my favorite human in hip hop. 1127 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: It's the realist nigga that I ever met in hip hop, 1128 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 1: in wrapped and damn there in life that nigga stayed 1129 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: tintoes down on everything and stand everything. He stands on everything, man, 1130 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: and he don't never change for nobody. He don't get 1131 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: in the middle. I mean, you know what I'm saying, 1132 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: Like Snoop just stayed right, he'd be like, Yo, I 1133 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: funk with you, and I funk with you and y'all 1134 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: gotta get y'all ship together because because ye right, you know, 1135 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: But like Na man Snoop is my big brother and 1136 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: my aunt and I love him. I got too many covers, man, 1137 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: you know the butterfly though, yeah, the butterfly will give 1138 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: me that one. No. I wastched out over the story 1139 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: with the butterflies that my dad wrote this poem for 1140 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 1: my grandmother called the Butterfly, And so I always wanted 1141 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: to get a butterfly like tatter somewhere because that poem 1142 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 1: meant a lot to me. Um. And then I went 1143 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,919 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati and I saw this nigga. This nigga looked 1144 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: like this nigga looked like he just broke out of 1145 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: jail from doing like three life sentences, and he had 1146 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: a big butterfly on his on his face like right here, 1147 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: but it was huge. And I was like, I had 1148 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: been hesitant to get mine because I was like gonna say. 1149 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: And so then I went to New York and uh, 1150 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: I was doing one of sixty parking and after that 1151 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: I think I had t r L. But I had 1152 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: like a few hours break. So I went to the 1153 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 1: tattoo shop, just walked into one and I told him 1154 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: that I wanted the butterfly, and this nigga, like dinner, 1155 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: gave me a month on my ship. And so that's 1156 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: why it wasn't that I wanted to cover the butterflies, 1157 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 1: just that ship. It wasn't butterfly. So I damned there, 1158 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: Like I just covered it up, man and put the 1159 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: l A over and it worked out. But came now 1160 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: to compare to today, you know what people are getting? Yeah, 1161 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: facts the same ship, Ye, the l A last one out? 1162 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah at the l A it out. Yeah, I remember this, 1163 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 1: this shot in l A two Yeah, um yeah right here, 1164 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, the one where I was holding 1165 00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: the gun up like this that wouldn't do't look all 1166 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: that was good, but only did shout out double cell 1167 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: a lot now just to get me high because we 1168 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: wasn't number one yet. That was the part of like 1169 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: being in the unit that like you know, fifty wasn't 1170 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: sucking buns on him and who was the day mays? Yeah, 1171 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: fifty wasn't working with them and so and I wasn't 1172 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: working with him because like they wasn't giving niggas like 1173 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: on the West, like five mikes for real. And I 1174 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: really at that time, like getting five mics in the 1175 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: source was like there's a big deal. That was the 1176 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: biggest deal. And so being an upcoming rapper, like I 1177 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: really wanted five mics in the source, so really want them. 1178 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: Niggas really didn't get me fire mics and I was like, 1179 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 1: I ain't nigga real, but yeah, you can have those 1180 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: games I watched off you want. Oh yeah, yeah that's dope. Man. 1181 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: Since we're talking about covers, manum on the Dramatic. The 1182 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 1: cover features my homegirl Britney Sky. She's braiding your hair 1183 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: on the burning couch. Can you explain that significance of 1184 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: the art direction? Well? Um, so basically U um, like 1185 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: my heart, it's in the hood forever. Even if even 1186 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: though I can't be in confident for obvious reasons, like 1187 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: you know it just I would just be making niggas 1188 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: feel bad. Like I can't just pull my lambow up 1189 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: park on the block and let it sit there and 1190 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: make everybody. Some niggas gonna feel like motivated from it. 1191 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: Other nigga's gonna feel like this nigg is showing off 1192 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: and like you know what happens like when So I 1193 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: can't be there every day, but my heart is always there. 1194 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm getting my hair braided on the 1195 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 1: couch because it's like that's what niggas would do in 1196 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: the trap. You know what I'm saying, That's what I 1197 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: I would get my hair braided on the couch, um, 1198 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: And so I had Brittany do it because I wanted 1199 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: to make sure that it was, um, a woman that 1200 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: was beautiful and strong and that you know, with somebody 1201 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: that I respected. And I also wanted to her to 1202 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: dress up like I wanted us to dress formal, because 1203 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: that is where my mind is. Like I'm I'm older now, 1204 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: forty two, be in business meetings with you know, with 1205 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: suits on, and so even though I'm a hood and 1206 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna getting my hair braided on this couch, that 1207 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: will be in a dope spot. I'm dressed up like 1208 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to a business meeting, which represents you know 1209 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: where I am as far as like my business ventures 1210 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: these days. Um. And then being by the beach is 1211 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: that's my mind all the way. That's where my mind 1212 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 1: wants to be. My mind wants to be as free 1213 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: as the ocean man, just flowing and just I want 1214 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: my thoughts to just be everlasting. I don't never like 1215 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 1: you go to the beach man, the ocean just goes 1216 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: back calm and comes up rushing since Earth has been 1217 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: here and it's gonna be there after all of us perish. 1218 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: And so that's why the ocean means that much to me. 1219 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: And the last thing that I want to do for myself, Um, 1220 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: the last goal I have in life, uh, for myself 1221 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 1: is to buy me a beach house and just wake 1222 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: up every day and just hear that sound, man, because 1223 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 1: that's really how free um and how at peace I 1224 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: want to be um towards the you know, later stages 1225 00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: of my life. Man, you gotta respect the growth man, right, No, man, 1226 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: we're not doing that that Yeah, that's real. Bro. Why 1227 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: do you slap your mother's because they would just always 1228 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: come like pressing, like my mom for the renting like 1229 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: if she I mean, she didn't have it for obvious reasons. 1230 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: She was trying to harm. My mom worked a few 1231 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: different jobs, and my postles in and out of jail 1232 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: um San Quentin Folsom County jail, like just in and 1233 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: out um from miscellans different ship um years at the time. Man. Uh, 1234 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: this nigga, Mr Brown would always be sucking with my 1235 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: mom's man, and I don't like now that I'm older, 1236 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 1: it's like, nigga, did you like her? And he's just 1237 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, like you like a girl at school. 1238 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: You're coming every day, she told you next Friday, nigga. 1239 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: And now I'm older and I'm on, I'm on, I'm 1240 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: out of the Foster Home and I'm back with my mom. 1241 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just like at that point, I was like 1242 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even my mom's son no more. For real. 1243 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: I was kind of like just gang banging and not 1244 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: the baby that she knew. Because when I went to 1245 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: Foster Home, I was in the third grade and when 1246 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: I got out that I was in the ninth grade. 1247 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: So by that time, um, six years being away from 1248 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: your mom and being in a different you know environment, Um, 1249 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: I just rebelled and I was straight got out like 1250 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: just a straight gangster. So I was with all the 1251 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: ship and I really I love my mom and I 1252 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: love my sisters, and any type of disrespect was gonna 1253 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: get met with violence. Fuck you, Mr Brown? Yeah, Mr Brown, 1254 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: probably chilling right now. You know my heart, man, my heart, 1255 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: not my mind right now once again respected that that 1256 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: that young man was was a wild young man. So man, yeah, man, 1257 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm a lot more. Uh, I wake up every day 1258 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: and these days and I'm just at peace and I 1259 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: and I don't really funk with nobody besides himinem on 1260 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: this album. You know what I'm saying. But but we 1261 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: we explained what that was. Man, last question before we 1262 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: get out of the game, are you really the man 1263 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: behind Demi Levado success? Have to rehab this guy? I'm 1264 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: just asking you know, Demi, Demi is a dem is 1265 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, and we had some we 1266 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of a lot of talks about like 1267 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: depression and drugs and rehab and how to fight back. 1268 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, I've been there for and Um in some 1269 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: times where she needed to be lifted and uh we 1270 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it and we did it. 1271 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 1: And I'm proud of her Um for where she is 1272 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: now versus where she was when she was in her 1273 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: darker days. You know, she she dope. Good to know. Game. 1274 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, We appreciate you being the yeah man. 1275 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: Salute the game man. Yeah, there we go, rap right 1276 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 1: on podcast. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, thank you. That's gonna be good. 1277 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm listening to lys, I'm listening to the music. Yeah. 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