1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast We've missed. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: You can't believe how time is flying. We're already in 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: week six of The Golden Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: Before we break down those episodes, it's time for Bachelor headlines. 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: And one headline didn't actually make it out in the media, 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: but it's apparently juicy and it's on our list to 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: go down. Ben. Apparently you were in Hawaii with Dean 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: and Kaylin and your wife and you like called out 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: a sixty year old woman for her behavior. Oh yeah, 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: this was caught on video. This would have been a 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: massive headline. Was it bachelor induced? Like as in? No, okay? 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: So she didn't come to you as a fan? No, okay, okay, opposite, 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't a fan of Bennett. No. 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: I don't think she has any clue. 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Who are or does that you know matter? Or is 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: this expected or anything like that. 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got really angry. I snapped. Jess has only 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 3: seen me probably snap or what she called get sassy. 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: I think her and Kaylen called to get sassy, So 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: maybe I think she's probably seen it twice in our relationship. Dean, 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: I think it's seen it once. Kaylen's never seen it, 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: and so I think it shook Kaylen. You know, actually, 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody listened to the show is unaware 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: that I have some pet peeves. I don't think anybody 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: is unaware that the fact that, like some things in life, 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: I feel could be avoided and probably would make everybody's 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: life function a little better. 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Ben, before you go on, can I just guess 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: what it was about if it wasn't like bachelor related, 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: because I thought that maybe she came up and like 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: said something about the way that you handled yourself as 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: bachelor so many years later bla blah blah blah. So 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: now that I know it's not bachelor related, I'm thinking, 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: is it like the way is she treated a server 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: or people who worked at the hotel a little bit? Not? 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: No, not not in the employee. So here's the situation. 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: So Dean Kayle and I, Jessica and well Dean, Kaylen, 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: Jessica and myself went to Hawaii. This is with Hilton 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: Grand Vacations. It was a great trip and it was 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: kind of in preparation for the big golf term that 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: I love to play in that Hilton sponsors, and so 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: we went down we were staying in Hawaii. It was 45 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: kind of something Jessica and I wanted to do because 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: I couldn't make it to Dean's bachelor party and then 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: obviously for their wedding, they didn't get to go on 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: a honeymoon, so like, hey, this will be a really 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: fun time for all of us to go down there together. 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: We had a great time, a really good time together. 51 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: It's wild when you can stay in an apartment with 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: four well to another couple and it just goes so well, 53 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: and we did. So when I went to a luau, 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: went to this luau and there's probably I would say 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: eight hundred people a thousand people at this louau is huge, 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: it's beautiful. 57 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: How many times do I say holy moly a week. 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't count too many. Too many. 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: So we go to this louau eight hundred people and 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: it's beautiful and it's great, and it's the kind of 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: the entry to the night where food is being served 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: and there's somebody doing an incredible like dance on stage 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: with like a guitar. It's very like slow piece of 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: the evening and we as somebody comes up to us 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: and they say, hey, can I get a picture? And 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: of course we all go yeah, of course you can. Okay, 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: we take a picture. 68 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: So it sounds bachelor fandom related. 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we get a picture. Okay, and then another 70 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: person comes up and they say, hey, can we get 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: a picture? And I'm like, yeah, you can, you know, 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: all of us like this is all of us together 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: and being like yeah, that's fine, that's great, like go ahead. 74 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: And then once that person does, you know, there's like 75 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: a little line of now people taking pictures. 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: Okay. 77 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: Again, the night hasn't started. Food is just being served, 78 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: and you know, I'm at this point getting a not frustrated. 79 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: But everybody comes up and says just one more, one more, 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: one last one. It's like, well, that's not true, Like 81 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: you can't say that there's one last one because there's 82 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: gonna be some brand new that comes up. And that's 83 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: fine too. Let's just you know, let's just get through this. 84 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: Let's do this because we're trying to enjoy our dinner. 85 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: And and I never get like angry at people wanting pictures. Yeah, 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: but it was kind of like it was the line 87 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: was getting longer, right, Yeah, So this person comes up 88 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: and they say, hey, can we get a picture? And 89 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: it's like four ladies and they're great and they're having 90 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: a good time on their vacation, and this lady behind 91 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: them goes, hey, mister celebrity, how about you? How about 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: you sit down? And I said, excuse me, and so 93 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: we took the picture and then she goes, how about 94 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: you sit down or you move to take your pictures? 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: And I said, I'm sorry, it's like, do you think 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: I'm asking for pictures? And she goes, well, you're the 97 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: one getting all the pictures, mister celebrity. What And I said, 98 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: I said, I think your logic, lady, is incredibly flawed. 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: And here's why. 100 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: Did you say, lady? 101 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did? Yeah, I was mad. Yeah, And she 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: was sitting right behind us, and I said, here's the deal. 103 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: We're not blocking anything. People are asking to take pictures 104 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: with us. If I had it my way, I would 105 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: be sitting having dinner. But we're gonna take pictures. And 106 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: do you want me to get up and walk past 107 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: now eight hundred people with four other people every time 108 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: somebody wants a picture with us, So that we can 109 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: get a picture and then we walk all the way 110 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: back to our seats and sit down, or would you 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: rather me expedite this and take a picture as quick 112 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: as we can so that everybody can get back to 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: their evening. And she didn't say anything. 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I was gonna say good. 115 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: So then the night starts right nice times, and I'm 116 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: fuming because she she said it twice. I was really upset, 117 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: and I just thought in my mind, I was upset 118 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: because I thought she was making it uncomfortable for not 119 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: only me, but also the people asking for pictures, which 120 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: is an uncomfortable thing to do when you ask anybody 121 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: take a picture you. I also thought that it was 122 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: inappropriate of her to at any level blame Dean Calen 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: or myself for what was happening in this situation, because 124 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: we can't control it and there is no navigation to 125 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: it other than get the picture and sit down, or 126 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: to say no, which makes you look like a jerk. 127 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 128 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: So then the night starts and the fire begins and they, 129 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: you know, start their whole show, and she gets something, 130 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: goes the bathroom, and I said, hey, you're missing the show, 131 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: which probably was where I shouldn't have said anything else, 132 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: like I probably at this point should have kept to myself. 133 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: At that point, I felt bad. 134 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just Europist. It's fine. 135 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just angry few me could not help yourself. No, 136 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: So I'm sure somebody there that was sitting at her 137 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: long table saw me stand at the table and tell 138 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: her that I thought her logic was incredibly flawed and 139 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: get really upset with her and also speak back to it. 140 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: I don't feel bad about what I said to her, 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: because I do think she was in the wrong. I 142 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: think there is a respect level, and also you know 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: her how having their wherewithal and the intelligence to know that, hey, 144 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 3: this probably is an ideal for them either. And yes 145 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: it isn't ideal for me because now you know they 146 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: are kind of standing in my way. But this isn't 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: something that they asked for or tried to have happen, 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: and so getting mad at them is not really you know, 149 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: getting to the heart of the issue. I was upset 150 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: about that. I did lose sleep that night then because 151 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: I felt bad for the people that were still in 152 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: line wanting to picture because they didn't ask any longer. 153 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if I made them feel like they 154 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: were doing something bad, And I don't think anybody's doing 155 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: anything bad here. I just think it's like, it's unfortunate 156 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: that you know, we're sitting in the middle table and yes, 157 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: there is a line of people taking pictures now to 158 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: close this at the appropriate time, while dinner is being 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: served and there is no show going on on the stage. 160 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: What do you mean, like if this would have been 161 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: happening while the like actual lua was being done, like 162 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: the dancing and the singing, then then I I would 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: have understood a little bit where I still would have 164 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: liked the way she talked to us, but I would 165 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: have understood her a frustration. The show hadn't even started yet, 166 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: like we were just eating dinner and having drinks. So yeah, 167 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what was going on with her. 168 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say something that when 169 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: she was walking to the bathroom and you said you're 170 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: missing Michelle, I thought she was going to retaliate. She didn't. 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, no nothing. I mean, I think at 172 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: that point it was over, and I think it only 173 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: could have got that was very dumb of me. I 174 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: should have kept it. I should have been mature enough 175 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: to say, Nope, the situation's done, it's over with, but 176 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: you know, it is what it is. But yes, I did, 177 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: did Dean and Kaylen? 178 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: And they would they would they know, No, they. 179 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: Didn't even say a word. They I don't even know 180 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: if they thought I was in the right. I think 181 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: they were just like, dang, all right, well been snappy. 182 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: Sassy is what they called me. They said, I got sassy. 183 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: That's sassy. That's sassy. That's not like me, and it's sassy. 184 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I didn't like try to. I didn't 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: say anything personally to attack her. 186 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,479 Speaker 2: Well, I mean she was referring to as mister celebrity, 187 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: like thinking as if you had an ego. I think, yeah, 188 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: first insinuating that you were bringing all this on because 189 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: it's like something that you were like inviting, actively inviting. 190 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: I think that's what really set you off. 191 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: Set me off, it did, and I think at that 192 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: point I was a little bit frustrated either, also because 193 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: you know, we hadn't had dinner together, which is fine, 194 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: it's kind of expected. You know, you go to a 195 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: big group and like Dean and Kaalin are a hot 196 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: commodity right now, like they're freshly married. They're just in 197 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: people like the people love them and they know them. 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: So I get it. I just don't. I don't like 199 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: to feel I don't personally like to feel bad for something. 200 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: I feel like I couldn't control, like I had done 201 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: something wrong, Like I felt like I had done something 202 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: wrong in this and I had it. 203 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: Let's also just say that please come up to us 204 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: and take pictures. We love it and never feel weird 205 00:09:59,120 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: or awkward. 206 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: Just don't get mad at me during it. Anyways, we 207 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: do have other headlines this week, and I'm hoping maybe 208 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: somebody does have a video of me getting sassy if it, 209 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 3: you know. 210 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: I know of a thousand people you would think it. 211 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: Hit the If it hit the web, I would. I 212 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: would want to watch it because I kind of like 213 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: it was so so mad. I don't remember everything. Anyways. 214 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelor sounder Mason reacts to criticism over a 215 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: missing daughter's wedding for the show. This is something we've 216 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: talked about on this podcast. I'm glad she's speaking out 217 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: on it because we wanted a little. 218 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: Personal but we didn't talk about it last week though 219 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: I don't think we did. Jess and I did you ingested. Okay, 220 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: that's why it was in the week before, all right, Yeah, so. 221 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: What was your take, because jess has a different take 222 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: than me. So jess as Nana and I both said, hey, 223 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: we understand like at some point in your life, maybe 224 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: you got to be a little selfish. This felt like 225 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: something that she wanted to try and do, and obviously 226 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: her and her daughter had agreed to this. And yes, 227 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 3: it's a big moment, but it's also a big moment 228 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: for her mom to like step back out there and 229 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: go in the dating world. Again. Is it ideal timing? No, 230 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: but we understood that, like, hey, it's okay. Jessica felt 231 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: like it was. I just think Jessica thinks about like 232 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: the fact that her mom missed her wedding, like how 233 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: weird that would be for her, And I think she 234 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: was like, I just can't imagine it. 235 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: I agree with what you said. They definitely jointly came 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: up with this plan and the daughter was supportive of it. 237 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: And here's why, I'm pretty sure the wedding and I 238 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: think she may have said this, maybe it wasn't clear. 239 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: It was really small. It almost like it was a 240 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: courthouse wedding. It looked like it was like a just 241 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: like a It wasn't like a huge party, it wasn't 242 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: like a thing. It was like we're going to go 243 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: sign paperwork type thing. And in that case, I think 244 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: she was like, Mom, you don't have to be present 245 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: when I'm just like going to the courthouse or having 246 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: like the smallest ceremony ever. Yeah, if it was a 247 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: wedding like your wedding or like my wedding, like that 248 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: would have been effing weird. 249 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: It would be weird. It definitely would be odd. I 250 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: still think, though, there's there's a world in which like 251 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: it would be okay because her mom is trying something 252 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: different and her mom is doing something for herself, and 253 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: you know, you don't know the backstory of their relationship 254 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: and how often her mom has right. But I do 255 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: think we're a courthouse wedding. It makes a lot more sense. 256 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: And then I'm assuming, just like most courthouse weddings, at 257 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: some point in the future, the family gets together for 258 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: like a good dinner or like to have some drinks 259 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 3: or whatever to celebrate, and I'm guessing her mom will 260 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: be at that. I'm guessing her and like that would 261 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: be See, she. 262 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 2: Says, that okay, So this is what she says in 263 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: the article. She knows she got a little backlash on it, 264 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: but again, like, no shade. There's no shade coming from 265 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: me because as much as it would been weird for 266 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,239 Speaker 2: one of my parents to miss my wedding coumstances, the specifics, 267 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: we don't know. She and her daughter are cool with 268 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: what went down. I think that there's also the question 269 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: of if you knew that she was gonna like at 270 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: this point where she was top six, she should have 271 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: known or I don't know, do you know, do you 272 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: not know whether she was going to continue on with Gary? 273 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: Like should she have left early knowing that maybe there 274 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: were a good couple of front runners before her. 275 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: I don't think she has any idea, right, I mean, yeah, 276 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: at that point, I think she's still up there. 277 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, wells what she said. She said like she felt 278 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: like she had like a fifty to fifty shot of 279 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: being maybe she's She says, quote, mathematically fifty percent or 280 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: less than fifty percent? How what does this? How does 281 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: how is this the real? Mathematically fifty percent or less 282 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: than fifty percent chance? Whatever that means? This is a 283 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: quote from her. She says we had six women, that 284 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: was her chance. So you know, in my heart and 285 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: in my psyche, I knew that Gary and I had 286 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: formed a deeper one of the deeper relationships. Get that. 287 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: The bottom line here is that she's glad that she 288 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: did this. Her son in law said, a ceremony is 289 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: eight minutes. Our marriage is for a lifetime. He said, go. 290 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: And then of course my daughter's response was, Mom, I've 291 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: got my guy, you go get yours. The thought of 292 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: me not coming to meet Gary was the wrong thing 293 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: to do. So she said, we are all going to 294 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: go out to dinner, and she went out and purchased 295 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: a gift for them, and she's going to kiss them 296 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: all over during their wedding celebration. And then she also 297 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: has mentioned, because she's kind of active on Instagram, that 298 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: she's had a lot of men sliding into the DMS 299 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: and she's excited to go and respond back. She's very hopeful, 300 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: been traveling a lot. And then she's going to get 301 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: your inbox very soon. 302 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: That's a piece of the Golden Bachelor that I'm excited 303 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: to hear about as it continues and as these people 304 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: come out public is if they are getting the DMS 305 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: now and if they are going to get back out 306 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: in the dating world because of this show, it's going 307 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: to be very interesting. Well headline here, that's interesting because 308 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: it happened in twenty eighteen, but the headline is this 309 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: how former Bachelor Sean Lowe saved infant son's life. 310 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is interesting that it's coming out now. 311 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if they're just getting out there talking about RSV. 312 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: We've talked about RSV here on the podcast, and you 313 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: guys can go to be aware of RSV dot com 314 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: to learn more, especially since it's becoming like six season 315 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: for kids. So this is what Sean and Catherine said recently. 316 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: She said there was a time she was working. I 317 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: don't know if she was out of town or she's 318 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: just like on set or something. And she said that 319 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: that he was alone with their five five month old 320 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: son at the time, Isaiah. They he was coughing and 321 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: just felt like there was like something like going on 322 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: in his chest, and he said that he goes to 323 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: the pediatrician and they go, you've got to go to 324 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: the er right now, and he wasn't sure what was 325 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: going on. This is this is from Catherine. She goes 326 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: and my husband don't even had his phone. He rushed 327 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: to the er and he used somebody else's phone to 328 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: call when he got there. And what had happened was 329 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: the baby was diagnosed with RSB, and because at five months, 330 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: the baby's immune system isn't fully developed, it needs time 331 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: to grow stronger. The RSB can actually lead to like 332 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: collapse lung sacks, severe breathing issues, coughing, wheezing, difficulty breathing, pneumonia, 333 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: all that stuff, bad things. And Catherine just said, like, 334 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: the whole thing is so dramatic traumatic. She looks back 335 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: and she can like she sees Isaiah's hooked up to 336 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: all these tubes, and she was like, that child was 337 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: just in my arms and breastfeeding, and now I can't 338 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: even touch him. And of course we know that Isaiah 339 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: has made a full recovery from that, but she just 340 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: said that just how having those debt fatherly instincts to 341 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: take them right to the doctor and then to just 342 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 2: run to the er is She's very, very thankful for it. 343 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good story and one you know, during 344 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: as we intern into the winter time, parents should just 345 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: be aware of. Okay, it's kind of that respiratory issue 346 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: and that cough. It is not something just to push off. Well, 347 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: speaking of kids, just like every newly married couple, the 348 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: first question publicly that everybody asks them is what's your 349 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 3: plans for a baby? 350 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: I feel bad for them, like they're like two months 351 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: off their wedding. 352 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: Goodness gracious. Bachelor in Paradise is Dylan Barber and Hannah 353 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: Godwin reveal when they plan on having kids. 354 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they're both so young, they're both still in 355 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: their twenties. So their answer is five years from now, 356 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: within five years, that is the goal. They say that 357 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: right now they are really just going to use up 358 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: the time to be travelers. They were even thinking about 359 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: living in Europe for a while, like maybe not full time, 360 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: but like a summer or two months here or there. 361 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 3: I feel like I felt like this early on. Whenever 362 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: Duode ask us, I'd just be like, I'm not playing 363 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: on having kids. Like so people stop asking and. 364 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: Turn But no, Ben, that's that's wrong for you, because 365 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: it's just wrong for you, because like you're born to 366 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: be a father. So then I would I would inquire 367 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: further and be like, but but that, what do you mean? 368 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: That is maybe right? 369 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: You are both you two are both very much meant 370 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: to be parents, so this is wrong and I must 371 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: get to the bottom of it. 372 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: No, I would have been like it it's inappropriate for 373 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: you to ask me, and that's what and I would 374 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: have thrown it back on every single person that did 375 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: and then nobody would ever want to talk to me 376 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: again and I would ruin everything. But that's okay. Yeah, 377 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it is. 378 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: It is pretty outrageous that it happens so immediately after 379 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: the wedding, like please, Phily was at least a year. 380 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: I mean it happened like two days later. We did 381 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: an interview and they're like, when do you think about 382 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: having kids? 383 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: What geez? I would have like, yeah, no, I the 384 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: time of being newly married is one to treasure the 385 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: two of you. If that's I guess, so you planned 386 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: but that was my style. 387 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, uh, some people are expecting and has planned 388 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: on having babies, and the very next headline is is 389 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: about that Bachelor's Hayley Ferguson is pregnant expecting first baby 390 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: with husband. This is super exciting for the former Bachelor contestant, 391 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: who happened to also be on the same season I was. 392 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: That's so sweet that you say, like the same season 393 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: you were, as if, like you weren't the bachelor, like 394 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: my season, you don't call it my season. That's very sweet. 395 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: Then it was all it wasn't about me, all right. 396 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: So we're so excited for Haley. She's been trying for 397 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: a while with her son Ula. It has been about 398 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 2: it's been over a year that they've been trying, and 399 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, we're just so happy for them because 400 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: she's watched Emily be pregnant and with a twin who's pregnant, 401 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: and you guys are both married within the same time frame. 402 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: It's just like, I can't imagine what she had to 403 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 2: go through being like, are you guys trying? 404 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: Do you want one? 405 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: Did you want the kids to grow up together? And 406 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: it's like she's like, yes, I've been trying. We've been 407 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: basically trying like a long side of each other. And 408 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: Emily got pregnant first, and she now has a baby 409 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: who I think is like, I don't know, over three 410 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: months old. I know that, And now we get to 411 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: say that Haley is she's pregnant and it had happened 412 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: via IVF. It did take them a while, so they 413 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: went through IUI first, which is usually recommended, and then 414 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 2: that didn't work, so then they went right and she 415 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: also had a poll up removed from her uterus, so 416 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: she's gone through a bit and we're just so happy 417 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: for her, and she was very considerate in her Instagram reveal. 418 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: It's really cute. It's a very cute reveal. The two 419 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: of them are sitting in a cafe and they're reading 420 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: a newspaper. It looks like an old school like photograph, 421 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: and the headline says, baby Paul on the Way. I 422 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: hope I'm saying their name their last name correctly, Pauve 423 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: on the Way. And she says it's with extremely heavy 424 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: hearts and tons of joy that Ula and I can 425 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: officially share our exciting news. It's also important for me 426 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: to recognize that, even though I'm so happy to share this, 427 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: part of me aches for anyone who sees this and 428 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: feels pained. I know that feeling so well, I've shared 429 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: my story and I've been able to build a beautiful, 430 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: strong community of people also struggling with infertility. Please know 431 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: that I understand if you need to step away from 432 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: my page during this period and my heart is with you. 433 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: It is exciting for the two of them. I am 434 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: personally very excited to see Haley mom. Emily obviously already 435 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: is a mother. I have always had a question about 436 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: Haley and Emily though, since we did The Bachelor back 437 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: then they only ate like chicken nuggets and French fries, 438 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: and I just wonder if that's still a thing. 439 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: I think predominantly yes, but I do think their palette 440 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: has grown. 441 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: Okay, that's just this has been something I'm curious about. 442 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 3: And just a quick edit there, Ula is her husband, 443 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 3: not her son. Actually said son, Ula, but it's her husband. 444 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: So if anybody's confused, just. 445 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: Want so weird, how did that come out of my mouth? 446 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: I think you're probably reading about a baby, and who knows, 447 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: we're you know, minds are weird. I just wanted to 448 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: make sure everybody understood her husband my dad. Hey, it's 449 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: not we can cover it up. Hey. Anyways, this has 450 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: been the headlines this week. More exciting headlines to come. 451 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: We have some really great stuff coming your way. A 452 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: breakdown of the Golden Bachelor that made me weep, Bachelor 453 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 3: in Paradise that made me confused, and so much more. 454 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: Stay tuned this week listen to the episodes. Ashley and 455 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: I are going to stay busy, but until next time, 456 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 3: I've been Ben, I've been Ashley. 457 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: See you guys. 458 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 459 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.