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Speaker 1: episode fifty. We made it. Let's give it for ourselves
Speaker 1: for making it. The episode fifty. Big Banks in here,
Speaker 1: Jade is in here, and we decided to bring a
Speaker 1: family member for episode fifty just to have a good conversation.
Speaker 1: Mike Will made it is up here. What's up, Mike Will?
Speaker 1: It's good man? What was good? Main scream? Ja Bank?
Speaker 1: Do you know every days? Amazing? How you been talked
Speaker 1: to us? Man? What what? What? What? Mike Will got?
Speaker 1: You always got something, You always plot something, You always
Speaker 1: got something going on. So before we don't don't be selfish,
Speaker 1: don't just get to the music you're about to put out.
Speaker 1: Just tell us in general, what's going on with Mike Will?
Speaker 1: What you've been over really man, just to summon all up?
Speaker 1: Just would I would say, Man, just just maturing, bro growing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like for real, I didn't
Speaker 1: turn thirty one this year. What I'm saying and like
Speaker 1: I mean, I spent a lot of years just like
Speaker 1: that young kid on the scene, just crying hard, like
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. And it's like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I feel like over these years,
Speaker 1: like moving around doing all the music and doing all
Speaker 1: kind of different things and mixing and mingling with different people,
Speaker 1: like I learned a lot of ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like it's really just that's that's
Speaker 1: how I can sum it up. It's really like maturing, bro,
Speaker 1: you feel me. I lost my drives like two years ago.
Speaker 1: It was like nine years worth of work. We were
Speaker 1: just talking about that, like, um, some producers like when
Speaker 1: they when they lose their hard drives, they're going to depression.
Speaker 1: It's overlay. I wanted the depression for sure, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to me A minute to get back.
Speaker 1: I talked to my bank every day, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's like, manun that ship, but you gotta
Speaker 1: run it back up. But it's like, bro, I hear you,
Speaker 1: But like, damn, I just lost like nine years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just And it wasn't just the driver, it was
Speaker 1: a drive and the backup, you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And like the folks have stole this ship. They weren't
Speaker 1: even going for the drive even died. They got stolen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got stolen, you know what I'm saying. Like, but
Speaker 1: my engineer had him, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he had a laptop with him. There was in the
Speaker 1: hand that court, so god damn, the laptop was on
Speaker 1: the seat. So the folks was really breaking in and
Speaker 1: get the laptop and then the drives and the backup
Speaker 1: was in the same spot. Man, No, no, no no, he
Speaker 1: had it. Had it had um moved him to a
Speaker 1: different position. I just you know what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 1: traditionally you know what I'm saying. But now now we
Speaker 1: just work with each other, like he makes his records,
Speaker 1: because that's still my brother, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't hold him. I couldn't put him in
Speaker 1: that responsible situation right there, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because it was just like I just couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Like we we ain't had the same chemistry no more.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, going to the studio,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They just wanted the same chemistry.
Speaker 1: So it's like his best is like, man, okay, boom,
Speaker 1: you better as a mixed engineer, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And like boom, But yeah, that right there, that happening
Speaker 1: like two thousand eighteen, like right around like when I
Speaker 1: was finishing up the creed All and ship and then
Speaker 1: um and then you know, but it really opened my
Speaker 1: eyes and made me start buying real estate, start buying
Speaker 1: build and start you know what I'm saying, putting down
Speaker 1: on different property and start opening my eyes like brod,
Speaker 1: I can't put all my eggs and this and this
Speaker 1: music basket, like you know what I'm saying, I can't
Speaker 1: do that ship because I didn't put so many I
Speaker 1: used to be that guy in the studio seventeen hours straight.
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, I didn't I didn't did
Speaker 1: that so many nights. And then it's like man, boom,
Speaker 1: Like some of the kids is playing with my drives
Speaker 1: like legos right now, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: and it ain't no getting back. It ain't no bouncing
Speaker 1: back from that ship. Like you can scream, Holly, you
Speaker 1: can kick the wall, you can got damn whatever the
Speaker 1: funk you want to do, but you ain't gonna get
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's back. All you can do is run up
Speaker 1: a new drive. You know what I'm saying. I'm just
Speaker 1: really really the way I think about it too, My
Speaker 1: man and doctor Dre. He doctor Dre and he lost
Speaker 1: his drives. You know what I'm saying. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: not his drive, but he lost his catalog. I'm saying
Speaker 1: to three times and paperwork. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I ain't never losing my catalog and paperwork, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if I lost my catalog,
Speaker 1: like this is just like man, okay, boom shape back.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Come with some new sounds.
Speaker 1: You feel me. I feel like, if you're a hit maker,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make more hits. That's just what it is.
Speaker 1: Like if you if the people were like this one
Speaker 1: thing happened with this one thing, I'm like, then you
Speaker 1: don't make his nigger. You just still like it'sating, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't trust me. I get it. It's like, think
Speaker 1: about it, if your house burned down and you lose everything,
Speaker 1: But are you the type of nigga that's just gonna
Speaker 1: be depressed about that ship your whole life, or you
Speaker 1: type like I'm gonna get another house, bigger and better
Speaker 1: with everything back in big. Yeah, it took some time
Speaker 1: to get to that point, but I got to that point,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I had to start realizing,
Speaker 1: like like how you said, Man, if you're a hitmaker,
Speaker 1: that's what you do. I almost look at it like
Speaker 1: playing NBA two K. Now, it's like this is what
Speaker 1: I do. I play two K. I gamble on it.
Speaker 1: I bet money. You know what I'm saying. I might lose,
Speaker 1: I might win. You know what I'm saying. That's how
Speaker 1: I'm making music is. It's like I'm good at making beach.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, put my bed on it.
Speaker 1: You know what saying. I might invest in it. We
Speaker 1: might win, we might look you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like most definitely like I feel what you're saying,
Speaker 1: Like if you're hit making us what you do. That's
Speaker 1: why I had that got down, shake that ship off.
Speaker 1: But it's like the way I work. The way I
Speaker 1: work is so weird because it's like I might pull
Speaker 1: a verse from goddamn two years ago and put it
Speaker 1: with this new ship that I'm working on right now,
Speaker 1: and it might just be a banker so to me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I got hit, Like I
Speaker 1: got hit. I'm like, damn, I lost all my tools.
Speaker 1: That's how we'll keep shit in the marketplace. That's how
Speaker 1: we keeps it on the radio. That's how how we
Speaker 1: keeps it on on projects. But it's like, it's cool, phone,
Speaker 1: sit back, focus on your producers now, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Make sure your producers are getting placements. Make
Speaker 1: sure they're in the ruins with these artists. Now. You
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, you can work like that until you
Speaker 1: got them. Get all the way back and mold and
Speaker 1: start back having phone with this ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now I'm back having phone with this ship.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Uh, well, ear drummers. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I got a production team called ear Drummers.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The African hard homie, uh Africa,
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, he definitely African. We talked last year.
Speaker 1: He had a bunch of hits. He's my thirty African
Speaker 1: thirty from the Islands Island, Okay, but but now no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty on fire. You know what I'm saying. What about
Speaker 1: A plus A plus thirty p nasty Mars j Bo.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like everybody on the squad
Speaker 1: killing it. It's like Dirty Rock he didn't want multiple Grammas.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying, it's been nominated for Grammars,
Speaker 1: want multiple Grammars. And then he a multi platinum producer.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like a plus multi platinum producer,
Speaker 1: won the g One a couple of Grammar has been
Speaker 1: nominated for a couple more p nasty multi platinum pop
Speaker 1: producer like he liked, He like if Dr Luke has
Speaker 1: sold to his beach, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: Ill is pop producer, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then by Mars Serati multi platinum producer. So it's like
Speaker 1: the team has goddamn doing their thing. But when I
Speaker 1: hell back and started being more like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like Bank like to call me like Bill
Speaker 1: Bell and check, you know what I'm saying, started like
Speaker 1: Jack calling plays Like when I went in the studio
Speaker 1: with Roddy Rich for the first time, I knew my
Speaker 1: headspace one there you feel me. But I told Roddy
Speaker 1: Rich like, may hey, you should lock it on my
Speaker 1: ya nigga thirty, he gonna deliver, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, he's gonna get you the hit
Speaker 1: that you're looking for, Like he like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, how are you looking for? Like that,
Speaker 1: Mike will hit like he on that here, on that
Speaker 1: type of time, any studio he come, come go in too.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hit the target, you know what I'm saying. Next,
Speaker 1: like that's necessary in the industry because a lot of
Speaker 1: niggas don't pass the ball like that exactly. And and
Speaker 1: and they ended up making the box you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, just from that l right there they made
Speaker 1: when I lined the session up Keith for hitting me.
Speaker 1: You're one, thirty, gonna be in l A. You're thirty,
Speaker 1: gonna be in l A next week. Thirty go to
Speaker 1: l A next week. Yo, They're gonna be at this
Speaker 1: studio team Boom. They end up linking up Boom, the
Speaker 1: box happens. You feel me? That Shu got number one
Speaker 1: for level week. You know what I'm saying, it's just
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day and n just chill.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you ain't. Like that's
Speaker 1: what I had to realize. It's like man like Plus,
Speaker 1: I put them with my boy money making Matt, money
Speaker 1: making Matt working over the dream Ville. Plus end up
Speaker 1: doing the first two songs on the dream Ville album.
Speaker 1: One of those songs get nominated for a Grammar you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, produced by Plus. So it's all
Speaker 1: about spreading and spreading the spreading all that out through
Speaker 1: your team and you know what I'm saying, just empowering
Speaker 1: your team and building everybody up. You feel me, And
Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm saying, Like I've always been
Speaker 1: on that, but like I really more focused on like
Speaker 1: step back on the mike will branding, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I don't even have to be
Speaker 1: in the rooms like these guys and already learned over
Speaker 1: these years they know how to deliver. Now I'm trying
Speaker 1: to show like the whole team know how to deliver.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, all right, you got
Speaker 1: a new Bangers shooting up the charts with Niki and
Speaker 1: Forever Bro to us like that ship that speed about?
Speaker 1: Man's crazy because man, me and why be did that's
Speaker 1: all the same night we did Seeming like It? And
Speaker 1: he put it some But yeah, we did that song
Speaker 1: the same night we did seem Like It and I
Speaker 1: had pulled up on y B. This was our first
Speaker 1: time working, Like you know what I'm saying. We had
Speaker 1: running into each other a couple of times, exchange numbers
Speaker 1: a couple of times, but like, this was our first
Speaker 1: time working. There was a couple of years ago really
Speaker 1: and um, and then we did. I'm like, man, what
Speaker 1: kind of what kind of buy are you looking for?
Speaker 1: He's like, I want some dark ship? So boom, we
Speaker 1: did seem like it off the rim. I'm all right,
Speaker 1: bet so God damn. He told me to pull up
Speaker 1: the next beat, and I pull up that speed about
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, height, brol, look now to beat different.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I need you to
Speaker 1: try this. You know what I'm saying. It ain't no
Speaker 1: dark ship, but like I feel like it could be
Speaker 1: a banger. So he listening to the beat and he's like,
Speaker 1: now I don't make music like this. I'm right now,
Speaker 1: Look bro, I came in here. I delivered what you
Speaker 1: just said. You wanted something dark, We did seeming like it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep doing the same song over
Speaker 1: and over and over, Like, man, let's just try this
Speaker 1: out right quick. You know what I'm saying, Like, funt
Speaker 1: with me. You know what I'm saying, fault with me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fun with you. We could just keep going
Speaker 1: back and forth here like ship I. I I bet I tried.
Speaker 1: He was like, when everybody got laid the room, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I went outside, roll the backwood,
Speaker 1: smoked that ship. Man called me come back in the room.
Speaker 1: Come back in the room. He got the whole song done.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk? This ship is a smash?
Speaker 1: You like, I don't like that ship. I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: this ship is a smash. Bro. He was like, well
Speaker 1: you can having for y'all. I'm like, ship back, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He was like, let me get
Speaker 1: seeming like it from my rom. I'm like ship back.
Speaker 1: And that's just how it went, and then browing it up.
Speaker 1: He was working on the project. He went to jail,
Speaker 1: and then he came home. When he came home, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do what that speed about. We're gonna shoot the
Speaker 1: video and Ship I was gonna go to Texas, We're
Speaker 1: gonna shoot the video. And he ended up putting out
Speaker 1: that project seeming like it was on that project and
Speaker 1: then boom, he had got off. He had got off
Speaker 1: of like house arrest, and then he started moving around.
Speaker 1: Then it's like schedules conflicting. Then we you know I'm saying,
Speaker 1: running into each other in l A. Then we had
Speaker 1: a video shoot set up and then like some someone
Speaker 1: with you know what I'm saying with that video, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he was just like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: we should put Nikki on that song. I'm like forever,
Speaker 1: I'm alright, bet you know what I'm saying. Reached out
Speaker 1: to Nikki. Nikki, I got the song about use from
Speaker 1: my album Feature on y B you know Sam, She
Speaker 1: would like send it, send it to her. She sent
Speaker 1: our verse back in like twelve hours. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm like, damn, and she snapped went crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, alright, bet So I had this other concept
Speaker 1: of this video that I was working on, and that
Speaker 1: ship was that Ship was like damn, They're done. But
Speaker 1: then Nikki was like, now we got to do like
Speaker 1: an ill video. We gotta do like a like a
Speaker 1: big video. And then at this time my free agent,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna put my own money up and
Speaker 1: just send it up the charts, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But me and Craig Common we're doing like a lot
Speaker 1: of talking about other other projects at Atlantic and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, doing other singles with other artists
Speaker 1: at Atlantic or whatnot. And Craig was like, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: like you have an album that you're working on or
Speaker 1: something like who I was like, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: sound working on the album? I got um the single
Speaker 1: featuring Young Boy and Nicki mcnash. He was like, let
Speaker 1: me hear. Then he heard it, he was like, bro,
Speaker 1: this song is a smash. Bro, I want to make
Speaker 1: sure I'll help you, Like I see what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do with your album. I see I see you
Speaker 1: trying to build. I see what you're trying to do
Speaker 1: with this Mike, we made a brand everything. I want
Speaker 1: to help you build that brand. I want to help
Speaker 1: you out damn push your song, like for real, like
Speaker 1: how do how do we put out your album? And
Speaker 1: then I was like all right, ship. So you know
Speaker 1: I ended up doing the album deal with Atlantic, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and then Bone it's the first
Speaker 1: thing off to off the album, the album called Michael.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you know, the first step out this ship?
Speaker 1: You feel me it ship definitely the ship definitely doing good.
Speaker 1: It's getting a great response, like it ain't you know what,
Speaker 1: it ain't really no gimmicks over here, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like me and Bank, I always talking
Speaker 1: about like the difference between like gifted and gimmicks. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like hype and heat. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it ain't no gimmicks over here.
Speaker 1: So I knew I wasn't gonna premiere number one Hot
Speaker 1: one hunting. You know what I'm saying, because I didn't
Speaker 1: do no gimmick ship. You know what I'm saying to
Speaker 1: get all the attention to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm always look at it for like like long
Speaker 1: haul ship, Like you know what I'm saying, Like it
Speaker 1: might not do this in the first week, it might
Speaker 1: not do this in the first week, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, if if like yeah, yeah, if it's a banger,
Speaker 1: It's gonna got down, keep getting big. It's a solid project.
Speaker 1: There's a banging as song as it got down, Solida
Speaker 1: video and folks working with it, so I know it's
Speaker 1: gonna got down girl, as high as it needs to go.
Speaker 1: What's the most complicated part about producer artist relationships? Because
Speaker 1: sometimes like it could be somebody you're super tight with
Speaker 1: and then the fans, you know, they'll come out like
Speaker 1: you might not be on you might not do a
Speaker 1: beat for this person album or this person album or
Speaker 1: some shing like that. But you know, y'all are good.
Speaker 1: But I guess explained to the people because you know
Speaker 1: that people automatically assume like, oh, well they ain't doing
Speaker 1: music together. You ain't know that album. They must not
Speaker 1: be working with each other, or they must not be
Speaker 1: this or that. So what's the most complicated part about
Speaker 1: producer artists relationships? And just getting ship done, getting the
Speaker 1: music done and get it out. I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like the most difficult part of just this whole ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Producer artist relationship, artists, DJ
Speaker 1: relation and shippers, and it's just understanding timing. Bro. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like everybody got to understand, like
Speaker 1: like just because you feel like it's time, it might
Speaker 1: not be time. Like I know, like if you ever
Speaker 1: like when you were DJ and in the club, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the nigger got damn pull up
Speaker 1: on you, Like, hey, bro, they play my song. Man,
Speaker 1: it's got them one forty five in the morning, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's like, bro, it ain't
Speaker 1: your time right now, but you can give me the song.
Speaker 1: Send it to me. I listen to it in the morning,
Speaker 1: and then next time you put up on me. If
Speaker 1: it's a ship, I'm gonna play it. But the nigga
Speaker 1: gets so mad and be like, man, man funk that bro,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. All my home wasn't here, bro,
Speaker 1: Like everybody bumping my ship. Bro, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to play my ship bank then you become
Speaker 1: you didn't do what they wanted you to do when
Speaker 1: they wanted you to do exactly. So I feel like
Speaker 1: it's it's timing and it's and it's respecting each other's mind,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like like if you're working
Speaker 1: with if a producer working with the artists and they
Speaker 1: respect the producer's mind. But don't they expect Don't they
Speaker 1: expect to. I'm just trying to break it down for
Speaker 1: people because they'd be on the internet. Don't they expect
Speaker 1: YouTube always um be making the beat or have a
Speaker 1: beat on a race drummer the album or a future
Speaker 1: album or two change album. They expect that Sometimes it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. That don't mean that there's nothing negative going on.
Speaker 1: It just means, like you say, the time, it might
Speaker 1: not have been there, or maybe the record just didn't
Speaker 1: fit that project exactly timer you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that That's one thing I had to learn because I
Speaker 1: came in the game. I was just so eager to God, damn,
Speaker 1: get on, get a placement, get a you know, get
Speaker 1: a song on the radio, or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or anything like that. And I was trying to build
Speaker 1: might well made the ear drummer brand that I might
Speaker 1: have came across a little aggressive, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: because we was definitely gonna talk about that next. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, like, Mike, Mike, Well, I have several
Speaker 1: you you hold the record along with Gucci for most
Speaker 1: eight am nine am phone calls when you was on
Speaker 1: your grind and would hit me like yeah, I might
Speaker 1: just hit me to up. He sent it up up.
Speaker 1: You're like you were aggressive, but you know where you
Speaker 1: want to go. Wa. Never take it as no, like
Speaker 1: negative ship because it's like this neigt gonna go where
Speaker 1: he want to go when he said he gonna sit
Speaker 1: in and he's gonna work with Dr Dre all that
Speaker 1: ship that he used to say that some people might
Speaker 1: have thought this is crazy, but you visioned it. Can't
Speaker 1: nobody vision your vision for you. You already seen it,
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm going. My whole thing is
Speaker 1: like like I don't I don't really understand the word
Speaker 1: no when you already seen somebody done, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When you are already seen like like
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre do what he did or like Puff do
Speaker 1: what he did, and you were a student of the
Speaker 1: game and you've seen these folks do what they did
Speaker 1: and how they did it. It's like and then you're
Speaker 1: trying to take the same approach, like you're trying to
Speaker 1: got them go to the artists and be like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna sitting in with this
Speaker 1: artist and I'm gonna be like Dr Dre was what
Speaker 1: goddamn snoop? You know what I'm saying, making this guy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, perfect this line. We're gonna
Speaker 1: come with the most solid song. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because I don't like, like, man, no hot pockets ship
Speaker 1: going on over here. I don't like hot pockets. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want to I mean like
Speaker 1: like how pockets, you know, like hot pockets, the little
Speaker 1: the little hot pockets that you put in the microwave
Speaker 1: one minute, got down if you just chew it up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Eat that ship be full,
Speaker 1: forgot them thirty minutes an hour. And you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, be hungry all over again. Like I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to deliver a full course meal. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like like a goddamn You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Your your cards, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Your vegetables, you know what I'm saying. Your your protein.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to I'm trying
Speaker 1: to put all that in your system where it's like damn,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like there's some real ship,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like and and that
Speaker 1: kind of ship right there. They don't take one minute
Speaker 1: to make you know what I'm saying. It might take
Speaker 1: thirty minutes to make It might take an hour to MAKEE.
Speaker 1: So going back to music, it might take a year
Speaker 1: to make this. It might take you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: two years to make this, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it might take all these different mixes, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So for certain artists might might not
Speaker 1: even sonically even here, Like they might not even sonically
Speaker 1: even get it, you know what I'm saying, Like they
Speaker 1: just wanted to man the song done, song done, brother,
Speaker 1: put it out. Bro. You over thinking this ship, Bro,
Speaker 1: Let's just go. And it's like I feel you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm ready to go too, but it
Speaker 1: ain't ready yet. I know it ain't ready, ye, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna how that feeling inside my inside my gut
Speaker 1: that I can't even explain to nobody, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I can't explain it to nobody. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna know you know what I'm saying, like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: ship ready, Okay, we might have to adjust this up
Speaker 1: one bpm, up two bpms or slow this down if
Speaker 1: it's if we're going for a certain feeling, we might
Speaker 1: have to slow this down too bpms. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, and you know what I'm saying certain
Speaker 1: things like that. If you you start breaking that down
Speaker 1: to certain people that don't even know what bpm means,
Speaker 1: then it's like, man, funk that ship. Bro, Like you're
Speaker 1: trying to man You're trying to be on some Hollywood
Speaker 1: ship and it's like, bro, you what you say? What
Speaker 1: you're saying the situation is to cut you up with
Speaker 1: what you're saying. The situations where it's young niggas that
Speaker 1: literally make some music, put that ship on SoundCloud and
Speaker 1: then go. They don't mix it down like we've seen
Speaker 1: some huge records, like I mean, what are you say
Speaker 1: in that space? Because some young niggas, what are you?
Speaker 1: They just like they don't think, they don't know how
Speaker 1: to think about it. They don't know bp and they
Speaker 1: don't know't them. It's it's an art to ignorance too.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, there's a yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: there's an art to ignorance. I learned that. I did
Speaker 1: that already. You know what I'm saying. Like I did that.
Speaker 1: I've been doing that. Come on screen, like I've been
Speaker 1: doing that. I've been sending you songs just two thousand six,
Speaker 1: two thousand seven from Gucci, Like, but we're just knocking
Speaker 1: them ships out and going. I'm trying to challenge myself.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to build myself. I want when people here
Speaker 1: Mike Will Made It or Air Drummers, they know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a banker, it's gonna be hard, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a hit, it's gonna be solid, it's gonna sound
Speaker 1: like something. You're like when we hear Dr Dreke, we
Speaker 1: expect something. When we're here for real, we expect something
Speaker 1: like when we're here like Kanye West, we expect something.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, So if if I'm
Speaker 1: steadily trying to goddamn go take it that far and
Speaker 1: trying to show my other young niggers and my other
Speaker 1: peers how far we can take it, and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I know I'm one of the leaders
Speaker 1: of that ship. I can't be I can't be playing
Speaker 1: around doing the same ship I was doing in two
Speaker 1: thousand six, two thousand seven. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: but I ain't knocking nobody who got damn knocking song
Speaker 1: got put on side cloud? Go up? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Hey, I'm sometimes like when there's certain new artists,
Speaker 1: I might be late on the train. I might be
Speaker 1: late on the train just because I might not have
Speaker 1: followed him on SoundCloud. I might not have been that
Speaker 1: first two hundreds follower, you know what I'm saying. On
Speaker 1: SoundCloud and saw that first, second or third single that
Speaker 1: he put out, You feel me like I might have
Speaker 1: caught on to him once that song already popped off
Speaker 1: of SoundCloud and it started and it came across my
Speaker 1: radar in the club, or somebody playing it around me
Speaker 1: or something like that. You feel me. So sometimes you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You might show it to the
Speaker 1: party late. But it's like, like I feel like there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. It's
Speaker 1: an art to ignorance, but like it's an art to
Speaker 1: like that distortion. Like I know, like, man, a lot
Speaker 1: of my old Gucci beats, like if you, if you,
Speaker 1: if you listen close, like it'll sound like it's air
Speaker 1: on my beats. You know what I'm saying. The only
Speaker 1: reason it was sounding like that is because all my
Speaker 1: ship was plugged up around all my ship was plugged
Speaker 1: up into a multi track recorder, and I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to plug my ship up. I just had this audio, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going here, this audio, okay, we're going there, and
Speaker 1: I and I was recording it through this. I was
Speaker 1: recording it through a certain guitar distortion. And I didn't
Speaker 1: even really understood still what that meant right there, because
Speaker 1: I talked myself how to count bars all that different
Speaker 1: kind of ship. So with me, it's all about like
Speaker 1: the next steps, you know what I'm saying, Like like
Speaker 1: I don't want to God damn, certain songs. I wanted
Speaker 1: to sound dirty like that. I wanted to sound like
Speaker 1: I want my ether way to sound distorted, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to sound distorted in a certain kind of way.
Speaker 1: I don't wanted to sound distorted like I don't know
Speaker 1: how to control distortion, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is making any sense, especially
Speaker 1: producers out there, because because because it's like it's like
Speaker 1: this is why, this is why I started to realize
Speaker 1: when I was doing a lot of rap beats right
Speaker 1: and and and like the game was like rap, d
Speaker 1: M and d UM at the time was popped and
Speaker 1: it was like rock and roll, and it was like
Speaker 1: I started studying like different draws, and like, damn, what
Speaker 1: do they like about different draws? I started realizing, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: in rock and roll, they respect distortion like they respect
Speaker 1: like distortion and darkness. So if I'm gonna do a beat,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, this ship from like itching
Speaker 1: ship is distorted as fun, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But certain people that might not even listen to rap,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, they might hear that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be like that. But yeah, yeah that ship is a a badass,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like on some ship like that, because it's like they're like, damn,
Speaker 1: how did he get to like get that ship to
Speaker 1: distort like that? You know what I'm saying. It sounds
Speaker 1: so wrong, but it's it's so right, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like and and the and the itching
Speaker 1: version I'm talking about is where it's saying like World World,
Speaker 1: World premiere. You know what I'm saying. That's the one
Speaker 1: that we just dropped online from my mixtape. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And just drop my bad mother Bad
Speaker 1: and just drop that ship online and fucking um and
Speaker 1: that ship had just went up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And like and you know what I'm saying. Next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, like certain people, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like that respect other kinds of musics, Like yo, bro,
Speaker 1: I like this, So I like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's it's just like sonically understanding, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, music and understanding like different frequencies
Speaker 1: and vibrations, and you know what I'm saying. Just my
Speaker 1: whole thing is just like earn that pot and then
Speaker 1: and then pushing it to the limit. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like when I'm producing, that's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1: Whether it's a project or song or whatever, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to push it to the limit, try to get the
Speaker 1: best out of this artist. And then I'm trying to
Speaker 1: just stir up a pot. I'm trying to got THEMN
Speaker 1: bring this kind of vibe, bring this kind of vibrating,
Speaker 1: that kind of vibe. Like that's why we started putting
Speaker 1: the filters on our beats because it was like that
Speaker 1: was already popping in the eating world. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, the filters and ship, but they didn't have
Speaker 1: the filters with the with the destory A to weights though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then it was like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like that's like like playing Jane,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying for Gucci, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like like really with that songs, like
Speaker 1: Gucci didn't really understand that beat at first. People like
Speaker 1: brother beat just like it just keep going like this, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Just go onto the filter
Speaker 1: and to come back. But you're going like I'm like, Google,
Speaker 1: you just gotta get on that motherfucking just you know,
Speaker 1: and you gotta just use that flow, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I feel like that's another part of
Speaker 1: the full course meal. You being able to pull people
Speaker 1: outside of their box and like making them see and
Speaker 1: understand a different way and also becoming comfortable with that
Speaker 1: different way so that they can go to another level
Speaker 1: or go to like another side that they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: used to. That is going to help them expand. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, yeah, like it's my pet peeve when
Speaker 1: when the artists tell me like like, hey, bro, this
Speaker 1: ain't the type of music I do. I ain't come
Speaker 1: here for that. You know what I'm saying. I ain't
Speaker 1: come here to do the same type of song that
Speaker 1: you do. You know what I'm saying. Or you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I came here for us to
Speaker 1: collab and do something new. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that if you don't feel if you just don't like this,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna force you to like this and let
Speaker 1: but if I'm sure about this beat, like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know it, Like yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: pushing it. I'm gonna fall back when I when you're
Speaker 1: saying to fall back, but I'm gonna keep like ain't
Speaker 1: the way around it, you know what I'm saying. With Future,
Speaker 1: it was like Future to not like that beat, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. At first, he didn't understand it.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, bro, if you're do a melodic song
Speaker 1: or here, it's out of here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And Bro was like man, he was like, he was like, man, Bro,
Speaker 1: you ain't got no more beats. I'm like, Bro, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, Bro, this is the one. Bro Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, This the one one, and then
Speaker 1: he'll pull out some more beats, working them. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This ship went on for like five
Speaker 1: six days, maybe ten days, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like one night he was doing Tony Montana. I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 1: he and the vibe, you know what I'm saying. After
Speaker 1: he finished Tony Montanna to me him at the studio,
Speaker 1: You're like, Bro, you gotta beat. I'm likedy, but I
Speaker 1: got that same beat. Bro. Tell me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Me and you were here, Bro, if you
Speaker 1: do it, if you do along on this ship, bro,
Speaker 1: ship out of here. Bro, You're like, bro, play the beat. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I play no way around it.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, I'm turning the microne going to booth,
Speaker 1: lay down the hook. I'm like at first, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: he just trying to knock because I'm hearing him through
Speaker 1: the booth and he's just saying, a bitch gonna be
Speaker 1: a bitch, gonna be a hole killer. But I don't
Speaker 1: hear how I signed him with the beats, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's just trying to knock something out. So I quit
Speaker 1: pulling up this beat, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: then when the engineer played when he came out the
Speaker 1: booth and the engineer played it back, bro I remember
Speaker 1: the ship like he was just said. I was sitting
Speaker 1: on the couch and Brian had just walked in, and
Speaker 1: I'm just hearing, like, you know, that ship come on
Speaker 1: so epic, you know what I'm saying. And then Brod
Speaker 1: just walking the room. And then then ship just dropped
Speaker 1: a bitch gonna be a big I knew right there.
Speaker 1: I got goose bumps. I'm like, brother, ship out of here.
Speaker 1: Bro Ship. He was like, bro, you just man, he
Speaker 1: just gonna say that ship bro you and this beat,
Speaker 1: but like you just go. I'm like, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: this ship out of here. He didn't even have no versus,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Spence came to the studio.
Speaker 1: Spence was like, brother Ship out of here. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The Future I laid down the first verse.
Speaker 1: I came to the studio and Future was like the
Speaker 1: Future was like, man, Yo, Spence said that song out
Speaker 1: of here, brother at that one, and I'm like, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, brother ship out of here. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: all right. He still didn't finish it, and he was
Speaker 1: he was working on a true story. And then fact
Speaker 1: Matt was in there. In Fact Matt, they would ever
Speaker 1: look for one more song. Fact Matt was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I like, this ain't the way around it. And then Browne,
Speaker 1: that's my future. When it did the second verse boone,
Speaker 1: they used on a true story and then the ship
Speaker 1: came out and Future had to show like I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's like making It was somewhere in Georgia,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, outside of Atlanta, and
Speaker 1: and like everybody knew the words, and then Esco got
Speaker 1: them one acapella and they knew the words to it.
Speaker 1: To the hook Anniverse. The man called me on the
Speaker 1: way back home. He said, bro, Bro, we finally got
Speaker 1: our first hit. Bro. We caught one for man I
Speaker 1: just performed. But he folks seen this ship acapella. I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 1: they were just playing on the radio cash you know,
Speaker 1: and and a little bankhead man. He was just playing
Speaker 1: on the radio. Got them for thirty minutes. Bro, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He was like, Bro, I think
Speaker 1: we got one. I'm like, no, it's the one. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And it's like if I
Speaker 1: would have just if you know, I'm saying, some some
Speaker 1: producers and some some producers just pull up on fan time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They might just pull up
Speaker 1: on the artist and just be a fan of this artist.
Speaker 1: And it's just like he said, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like he he don't like this beat, or you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I can't play it no more like
Speaker 1: I can't say nothing back to him, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Or just let the artists straight up be
Speaker 1: like man ship music. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not forcingate. I'm not forcunate, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Sometimes like vision is to be able to see the unseen,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like if you
Speaker 1: if you can't, if you can't see this, I can't
Speaker 1: expect you to see it unless we have some kind
Speaker 1: of proof of concept. And I know you don't want
Speaker 1: no writer, you know what I'm saying, So like I
Speaker 1: know you don't want to writer, so maybe you ain't.
Speaker 1: You can't hear this beat right now, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to this next beat. I see what, Bob, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to this next people gonna do this
Speaker 1: like like okay boom, like like prime example, um, prime example,
Speaker 1: like um um, how Free Bricks got started? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When we did Nasty Me and you
Speaker 1: were doing men men go to in the studio all
Speaker 1: day boom, I had already got him on this one beat,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and I'm playing the
Speaker 1: beat and I'm like, man, he get on it, and
Speaker 1: I tell him to stop, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like he in the booth. I'm like, yo, gooch, I
Speaker 1: already see what vibe you on. I got another beat
Speaker 1: for you. You You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm like
Speaker 1: that that that right there ain't it for that beat,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I got down playing
Speaker 1: another beat. But me and Gooch's rock like that. So
Speaker 1: if I tell him that he he not no artists,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tripping like that. He's gonna be like,
Speaker 1: all right, bro, pull up the next one there. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I pull up the next one
Speaker 1: that he just eat it because I see where he at.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Me and him just we
Speaker 1: we we we were just a lot, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We just always just been locked in like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like man boom
Speaker 1: with with how Free Bricks started. It was me and him.
Speaker 1: One day my phone was hooked up to the OX
Speaker 1: and then um my phone was hooked up to the
Speaker 1: OX and then my phone started ringing and my rain
Speaker 1: tone was ain't the way around it. So he was like, man, Bro,
Speaker 1: you don't never give me no ship like that. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, Bro, I said,
Speaker 1: look at that beat from the other day. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that you were rapping. I told you
Speaker 1: to stop get on that beat and just put all
Speaker 1: the tune on your voice. Bro, You're gonna have your
Speaker 1: own vibe. You know what I'm saying. And he was like,
Speaker 1: he was like, man, I pull it up. They don't
Speaker 1: even I don't even remember the beat. Pull it up.
Speaker 1: I pulled it up. Boom. We're going back and forth,
Speaker 1: we come up with a hook. He's going to booth.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He'd do nasty and then
Speaker 1: he like, bro, man, this should have hit. Bro, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put the Wayne on this ship. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: the Wayne on this ship. I'm like, nah, Bro, you
Speaker 1: gotta put a future on this ship. You're like future
Speaker 1: of a little Wayne. You're like, Bro, you're talking about
Speaker 1: you talking my rock up by the future. I'm like,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, but you gotta put a future on that ship, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he like, call future. Bro,
Speaker 1: you're talking like that, Mike. I know that's your boy,
Speaker 1: but god damn future over a little Wayne. I'm like, yes, Bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Hes gonna be the new wave.
Speaker 1: And he just like you, Bro, he gonna eat this
Speaker 1: ship quick. You know what I'm saying. He like he
Speaker 1: like man, He's like man ship, all right, call him
Speaker 1: call Future. Bro Man Goutier did it hard as song. Bro,
Speaker 1: you she got down, Man, you need to funk with it,
Speaker 1: he said, pull up the Morrow if you say bad boom,
Speaker 1: Future put up. The next day we did lost it.
Speaker 1: We did got damn, we did lost it. We did
Speaker 1: Nasty and then Future and then Good told me, like, Bro,
Speaker 1: your by Future hard, But I see what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: Like he's hard, saying, like, man, what's up to tape?
Speaker 1: You're like, Man, we need to do a tape ainting.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, yeah, Boom, he's that called Future. Tell
Speaker 1: me let's do it tape called Future, right bro Boom,
Speaker 1: Good said, Man, let's do it tape Boom. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We started working on that ship become
Speaker 1: free bricks, you feel me? So I was like, it
Speaker 1: might not be the timing right then, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: force an artist on it. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I might see it already, Like you know I'm saying
Speaker 1: I might just see it. Bro. I knew first day
Speaker 1: out the fans when I made that for a gut,
Speaker 1: y'all knew that was I knew that was first day
Speaker 1: out the fans. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to explain him the beat over car links. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to me. Him already talking over car
Speaker 1: links every day, So it's like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we're talking heat Like man, y'all need a beat, like
Speaker 1: I need to be coming out sounding like this. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm like, Yo, I got this beat.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be simple, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound like, well, you just walked into the club.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm just thinking about you
Speaker 1: walking out of that gate, my nigga. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's gonna be like you're walking in the club.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When you hear this ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Boom he called me when
Speaker 1: he got out. Well some of them beats, bro the
Speaker 1: pull up to the house in like two hours. I
Speaker 1: bet Boom, send them to the beach, put up to
Speaker 1: the house. He already got first day out the fairs,
Speaker 1: laid down. You know what I'm saying. I'm my brother's
Speaker 1: it right here. I said, Man, give me the files,
Speaker 1: give me the fines, I go to the studio. I
Speaker 1: put the dark part at the beginning because in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about, like, you know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you if you locked up in the junk,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, You like that dark part
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the song, Like that's what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about, Like, man, you're walking through this motherfucker's like
Speaker 1: it's it's just dirty, you know what I'm saying. You're
Speaker 1: in the joint, and then as soon as you open
Speaker 1: that door and you out, it's like boo boo boo
Speaker 1: boo boo boo. Like you know what I'm saying, It's
Speaker 1: just like it's just like a cloth. It's like it's daylight.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I'm saying. That's how I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Like when when I when I thought about First Day
Speaker 1: Out the fairst and it was like to be we
Speaker 1: was already talking about the First Day Out the Fair song,
Speaker 1: and like that was a vision for that was a
Speaker 1: vision for that song, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: and you know, if if me and Google then had
Speaker 1: that that trust for each other, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: working wise, and he might not. He might have heard
Speaker 1: that be be like, Bro, sh it ain't it? Bro?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But he you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like he know, like we didn't already been
Speaker 1: through them times where it's like, bro, you know, sign
Speaker 1: right on this beat right here, get on this one,
Speaker 1: or man, get on this one and put this person
Speaker 1: on there, or either he'd be in the booth and
Speaker 1: then he might have been wrapping something in the control
Speaker 1: room that was so hard and then go on the
Speaker 1: booth and say something totally different that's hard. But I'll
Speaker 1: go in the booth and be like man used that
Speaker 1: as the second verse, and then hey, bro, you remember
Speaker 1: what you're son in the control room? Hey put that
Speaker 1: back at the first verse. So we just say when
Speaker 1: need to be feeling like man and he like we
Speaker 1: all did too difficult. Man, he only got them being
Speaker 1: the booth and he want to got them telling how
Speaker 1: to rep Yeah, like what would not tell him? Tell
Speaker 1: him about the ride here and ship? Nah, you're talking
Speaker 1: about that, but what's the college? Like I feel if
Speaker 1: they say if they if they say, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm say, if they if they said they say
Speaker 1: goddamn by the ning, it might were difficult, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it's like, like I said, but
Speaker 1: vision is to be able to see that. I'm saying, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're not getting the You're just not getting the vision.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be difficult at all, but but
Speaker 1: I am trying to goddamn deliver the best record, and
Speaker 1: the best of them were difficult. Dr Dre was quote
Speaker 1: unquote difficult. If you look at them. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: saying a lot of people, a lot of these artists
Speaker 1: that they might be like yo, they need a Dr
Speaker 1: Dre like you might have like a certain respect, Like
Speaker 1: if Dr Dre Colin right now. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and then they come to the studio. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If Dr Dre tell them to retake some
Speaker 1: ship a hundred times, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: know they're gonna do it just for the experience. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you're not having that same
Speaker 1: experience with me, it's not time for us to work.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's how I feel. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I'm you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm trying to be well. I am
Speaker 1: a producer that's cut from that same cloth. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I am a producer that's cut from
Speaker 1: that same cloth. So when I'm in the studio, like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to perfect some ships. So
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: push you to the limit. I'm trying to make sure
Speaker 1: I'm pushed to the limit. And goddamn, Like, that's how
Speaker 1: Men and Kendrick were able to do DNA because the
Speaker 1: we're the same you know what, I'm same type of
Speaker 1: type of person that's trying to push each other to
Speaker 1: the limit. You know what I'm saying, Like and like,
Speaker 1: that's why any any classes I got with anybody from
Speaker 1: the Future to Thug to Goddamn Gucci to Kendrick to
Speaker 1: Beyonce to you know what I'm saying, Moley Sorrus, we
Speaker 1: pushed each other to the limit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We push each other to the limit production wise, and
Speaker 1: and and and vocal wise. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: no matter how difficult that is. And a lot of times,
Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of people show up on
Speaker 1: fan time, you know I'm saying a lot of people
Speaker 1: show up like I'm in the room with Gouch, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I'm in the room with Gouch,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm in the room with Pluto, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he got on my song
Speaker 1: or he got on my beach, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like they pull up on that kind of time,
Speaker 1: so I feel like that's not producing. And but even
Speaker 1: but even artists might pull up like that, and it
Speaker 1: might just be so easy to work with this artist
Speaker 1: or easy to work with this producer just because pulling
Speaker 1: up and you know what I'm saying. And sometimes artists
Speaker 1: might not want to hear you talk about like you
Speaker 1: should you could change your flow, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Or but you could, you could really go hard on
Speaker 1: that first first like bro, this is the one. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They might not want to hear
Speaker 1: that right now because they ain't the whole another vibe.
Speaker 1: They ain't a whole another vibe after last song they
Speaker 1: did or the next song they're about to do, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And they might do song right here,
Speaker 1: they might be sleeping on you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So basically you're saying, as a producer, it's important that
Speaker 1: you're able to read your artists that you're working with
Speaker 1: at a time so that you can tell like what
Speaker 1: type of time they're on, so that you don't you
Speaker 1: gotta do all that. Like as a producer, it's your
Speaker 1: job to to put together this three minute song three
Speaker 1: minute thirty seconds. So on two minute thirty seconds song,
Speaker 1: you it's your job to put together this song and
Speaker 1: keep the listeners here for the whole duration of that song.
Speaker 1: Make sure every second counts on that motherfucker. Know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's your job, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because when when they get to one minute and thirty
Speaker 1: five seconds and that's just are getting bored. Guess what
Speaker 1: the listener gonna do? Skip that motherfucker. They're not getting
Speaker 1: to two minutes, you know what I'm saying, because they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, bro, enough of that ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it's like, man, if it's goddamn like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how long DNA is. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how long it is, but it's like when you listen
Speaker 1: to it's like it was a moment. It was like
Speaker 1: it was an experience, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like you're on a roller coaster on that motherfucker, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like me and jay Z
Speaker 1: made the hardest song under one minute in music history,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You can't find a song
Speaker 1: harder under one minute then Beach is Better, Me, jay
Speaker 1: Z and my boy Mars who made a banger, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's under one minute, but
Speaker 1: it's not one song in music history that's harder than
Speaker 1: Beach is Better. You know what I'm saying, under a minute?
Speaker 1: You feel me? So it's like but we kept the
Speaker 1: listeners there, like but we want more, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like Move that dope was like long at
Speaker 1: Hell's like four minutes and something, but it was like
Speaker 1: you keep the listeners here the whole way. It's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how long Moved that Doubt was.
Speaker 1: And I get that from like growing up listening to
Speaker 1: like Earth on on the Fire, like different rock bands,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, Like they have ten
Speaker 1: minute songs, they got twelve minute songs. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like, man, shoot, the motherfucker should
Speaker 1: want to hear your ship over and over like if
Speaker 1: it if it's a short song, it's it's cool that's
Speaker 1: a short song, because they're gonna put on repeat. They
Speaker 1: want to hear this over and over. It's like, damn,
Speaker 1: I love this ship, but you feel me? So I
Speaker 1: feel like a solid producer. That's your that's your job,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And whether that means like
Speaker 1: get this guy to play the keys, or get this
Speaker 1: guy to make the beat, or make this beat with
Speaker 1: this person, or get this person to write on this song.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, get this feature and
Speaker 1: bring this artists with that artist and knowing that this
Speaker 1: artist should get on this and instead of that, or
Speaker 1: or knowing that or we should take this sound out
Speaker 1: or we should put another sound in, or you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It needs to get mixed a little
Speaker 1: bit more in these reverb right here, the high hats
Speaker 1: need to be paying a little bit to the left.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like we need to bring
Speaker 1: the vocals up one dB or two d b. We
Speaker 1: need to god damn speed the track up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, one one bpm, two bpms Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, whatever the whatever it is, we
Speaker 1: need to add another eight o way on top of that.
Speaker 1: Or you know what I'm saying, this is eight the
Speaker 1: way they ain't hitting right, Like we need to make
Speaker 1: it a little bit longer, or the kick is not
Speaker 1: or you got to kick stereo. So you know I'm
Speaker 1: saying that ain't the way. They're sitting too much on
Speaker 1: top of the kick. You need to have to kick
Speaker 1: kicking through you know what I'm saying, Like, whatever it is, bro,
Speaker 1: you got to know how to hit that. What's your
Speaker 1: what you think is your biggest banger or the record
Speaker 1: it's most special to you. I know that's tough because
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of records and you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: give somewhat of a political answer, But what's that record?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask you two ways.
Speaker 1: What's the record this near and dear to your heart?
Speaker 1: And what's the record that changed your life? Uh? Nears
Speaker 1: and DearS to my heart, damn scream shoose women. That's
Speaker 1: like saying, like, what's the best thanks for giving me
Speaker 1: or you ever had? You don't generally be the same
Speaker 1: though you get the same venue every year, the saying
Speaker 1: which one your favorite kids? Okay, let's again, what's the
Speaker 1: one that changed your life the most? The most? They
Speaker 1: all did, but I feel you the first one that
Speaker 1: changed your life the first six but but but all right,
Speaker 1: the first the first one that sucked my head up.
Speaker 1: Though when I sit back and look at it, like
Speaker 1: like when I look back, when I look back at
Speaker 1: it and I'm not in real time, it's like it
Speaker 1: got to be Black Beatles because it was like that
Speaker 1: was my first number one. I won hunted. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't work with Beyonce already, I
Speaker 1: didn't work Miley already at this point, I didn't work
Speaker 1: with Rihanna all the way already at this point, jay
Speaker 1: Z already at this point, And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I get my first number one with these young
Speaker 1: kids from Tupelo, Mississippi, who I gave their first shot
Speaker 1: to featuring the dude gave me my first shot. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it was like, wasn't his
Speaker 1: first number that's his first number one, that's the first
Speaker 1: number one. So we get we all get our first
Speaker 1: and then and then when you and then when you
Speaker 1: think about it, it's like, man Shrump, first interview on
Speaker 1: DJ dropping against your girl ready on Hot one or
Speaker 1: seven nine, the first interview go to your comment from jail.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Said every who He said
Speaker 1: you just had on the radio. I said, I said, brother, Nigga, Man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna they group called Ray Shriman. You know I'm
Speaker 1: saying that from Twopolo Misssip. He said, Bro, give him
Speaker 1: one of my verses. Bro. He was like, man, they
Speaker 1: put the put put one of my verses on y'all
Speaker 1: mixtape because we're gonna drop a mixtape. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: put one of my verses on your mixtape. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: han goog, Bro, we gotta wait till you get home. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was like, a Bro,
Speaker 1: you're gonna put me on the mixtape. I'm like, Brod's
Speaker 1: just gonna make it seem like I'll put you on
Speaker 1: the mixtape. You know what I'm saying like i'd rather
Speaker 1: seem like you know what I'm saying, Like we did
Speaker 1: a banger together. Bro, I'm telling he's gonna be right
Speaker 1: on time when you come home. Bro, you know I
Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere. I'm right here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he's like, man ship back boom. This is the
Speaker 1: first song we do. We waited them years. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Google, get out of jail. The first
Speaker 1: week he get out of jail, he did. The verse
Speaker 1: of that song is Shrimp first number one, My first
Speaker 1: one one hit first someone, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's like I gave shrim the first shot. Google
Speaker 1: gave me my first shot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it was just like the one they're the ones
Speaker 1: line up. I'll be watching the ones lined up. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't know what that means,
Speaker 1: but when the ones be lining up, it's just like
Speaker 1: like it's special. It's like the angels talking to you.
Speaker 1: So that's like the first song that really like you know,
Speaker 1: like funk my head up, like when I look at
Speaker 1: it like that. But then another one is like me
Speaker 1: and Kendrick you know what I'm saying, Like when we
Speaker 1: didn't humble, like it was like, man, me and Kendrick
Speaker 1: already have been rocking for like nine years, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's why I'm saying, Like the timing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like people didn't even know
Speaker 1: that me and Kindred were cool all the way back
Speaker 1: since like two thousand and eleven, two thousand teen. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Me and Schoolboard Q had linked
Speaker 1: first and then he had linked me, and do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So every time they would come
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, they would just be like, hey man, Mike,
Speaker 1: we'll pull up. You know what I'm saying. So I'll
Speaker 1: pull up on them. Anytime I'm in l A Boom
Speaker 1: They're telling me to pull up on him. Boom, I'll
Speaker 1: pull up on him. I hit their phone, they pull
Speaker 1: up on me whatever. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like, Man Boom were like we we just wrought
Speaker 1: with each other like family. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Good kid Man said he come out. I'm not on
Speaker 1: the album. I don't get mad at Kin trip, but
Speaker 1: I know I gave him over a thousand beats for
Speaker 1: the album, you know what I'm saying. But when I
Speaker 1: heard the album, I'm like, oh, I see why we're
Speaker 1: not on there, and none of those beats matches album.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got a thousand beats
Speaker 1: for to Pimper Butterfly, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: when I heard the album, like, okay, I said, while
Speaker 1: we're not on there, boom when he shot it, Damn,
Speaker 1: he said, y'all about to shot my next album. I
Speaker 1: want to start with you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm a I bet he put up to the house
Speaker 1: nine in the morning, boom, and we're just listening to
Speaker 1: the beach for hours. You know what I'm saying. All
Speaker 1: types of beat beats is undone beats from Little Beat.
Speaker 1: One of my homeboys made a beat machine. He brought
Speaker 1: it over there like and I'm just fucking with it,
Speaker 1: Like dot wanted to hear everything, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I got him, I loaded him up, and then
Speaker 1: he went in one week and he did DNA, he
Speaker 1: did Humble, he did XXX. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: All them ships one week and then it was like
Speaker 1: and it was like, damn, like that ship crazy and
Speaker 1: it's like Humble I had originally made because I knew
Speaker 1: Gucci was coming home the next day. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: if he don't like first day out the fest, I
Speaker 1: wanted to give him my urgent drinks. So I'm like, man, ship,
Speaker 1: if he don't like first day out the first, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna work around. Give him. God Damn, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna work around give him. Goddamn this humble joint, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I had made that beating like
Speaker 1: ten minutes, but I just knew it was like an
Speaker 1: urgent joint. I just know it was like this. So
Speaker 1: I was like, man, all right, cool, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I pull up on Gooch. He already did
Speaker 1: first day out the first I tried playing Humble. He
Speaker 1: was like, man, that's a club banger. Brother. I ain't
Speaker 1: you know what? I need some doc shop. I needed
Speaker 1: some hard ship. I'm just trying to wrap bro. I
Speaker 1: need some hard ship. I bet you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that beat also reminded me on something like West Coast,
Speaker 1: like easy type ship, so I sent it the dot, like, Bro,
Speaker 1: what you think about this and then you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's when Dot had got the Humble beat,
Speaker 1: but he had knocked out that beat. DNA says all
Speaker 1: in one week, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: Dot was always saying, like Humble their Matches album. We
Speaker 1: was a are excited about DNA that was gonna be
Speaker 1: the single. You know what I'm saying. We're we're excited
Speaker 1: about that. But he always said Humbled the Matches album,
Speaker 1: and he was gonna give me Humble for ransom too,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm telling you, I think you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you should use Humble. And then
Speaker 1: Top Dog her Humble and was like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we can't get this one. The wright bro like like, bro,
Speaker 1: this's gotta be a single, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So Boom Dot ended up hit me back and was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: which one you think hard, the DNA or Humble. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: there are two different joints, like Humbles like a single.
Speaker 1: DNA is like, Yo, what the funk just happened? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So he's like, man, no, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm getting. He was like, we're trying to put
Speaker 1: out first, if you were to call it, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, man Ship. It depends on when the album dropped,
Speaker 1: Like if the album gonna drop the next day, drop DNA.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If I'm gonna drop in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, try humble, because you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That became the anther for the NBA and everything. Man, Man,
Speaker 1: we want to part surprise after that drink, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We want to parts of award off
Speaker 1: of that drint. We want to grab me off of
Speaker 1: that right. And it's crazy because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The song was nominated for a Grammy everything. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We were going up against desper Cito,
Speaker 1: all kind of all kind of different songs, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So next thing, you know, I'm talking
Speaker 1: to Bank Bank like, bro, you're gonna win that Grammar.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man Ship. Even if I don't win the Grammar,
Speaker 1: I feel like I did. Bro Nick is nominated for
Speaker 1: a Grammar, this song going crazy, like and everybody telling
Speaker 1: me like, bro, you'all gonna win, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking like how the Grammars work. It
Speaker 1: would be them songs that you think gonna win that
Speaker 1: don't win, you know what I'm saying. So it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's like, Man, at that point, it's like like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm content with myself because we had already
Speaker 1: lost with Formation. I thought Formation should have won, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just knew that was gonna win,
Speaker 1: but that one didn't win. So when we lost with that,
Speaker 1: I was already like comfortable, Yeah, comfortable enough for myself. Word.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, hey, bro, this ship nominated ship. I
Speaker 1: feel good one of these. But you're gonna win one day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But we might we might
Speaker 1: lose against this desper cito some bank. Like hell, now, bro,
Speaker 1: you're gonna win the Grammar, but at least one of
Speaker 1: the motherfuckers. You're gonna bring one of the motherfuckers back home.
Speaker 1: I remember I was in New York. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: all right, Ship, Man, I like, I like the way
Speaker 1: you're talking, bro. You know what I'm saying. Bro, I
Speaker 1: was on my phone in the car on the way
Speaker 1: to the Grammars Boom and I'm recording myself and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, man, look man, Humble nominated for a Grammar.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, even if we don't
Speaker 1: win this motherfucker, like I feel like we still want
Speaker 1: out of that. And then my manager was like, whoa wait, wait,
Speaker 1: I just got the email congratulations, like well on your
Speaker 1: first wing, you know what I'm saying. And that's when
Speaker 1: I find out Humble one of Grammar. And then I
Speaker 1: called Bank. I'm like, nigga, how the hell they tell
Speaker 1: you before for that award? You know that award? They
Speaker 1: tell you only certain awards they hold off, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like they hold off, but like certain
Speaker 1: awards that they can let you know before. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but like right before, like when you're
Speaker 1: pulling up to that ship. But it's like, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that ship was just crazy. I called Bank, like how
Speaker 1: the fuck you call all that? Bro? Like how the
Speaker 1: fund you know that ship? And he was like, man,
Speaker 1: they got told you. You know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: was that was that was the first That was the
Speaker 1: first Grammy. So that right there goes back to what
Speaker 1: you were saying earlier as far as like you're rocking
Speaker 1: with a person behind the scenes and people be like, damn,
Speaker 1: why this person if they funk with you, why you
Speaker 1: ain't on the album? And I'm saying, you just gotta
Speaker 1: stay down with the ship into that ship work out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This, This is my final
Speaker 1: The biggest question bad keep it real? How many wraps?
Speaker 1: Not seriously, like do you wrap? Do you be rapping?
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get hard, so you ain't never putting hard?
Speaker 1: Was hard when I was young. You ain't never put
Speaker 1: out no rapping. I ain't never heard no well like rapping. Though,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie like you're at a bait. No,
Speaker 1: he heard a voice note, but but what's it called up?
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, bro like I get on smoke
Speaker 1: cushot pop beings with Gucci. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was a young nigger. I was a young nigger
Speaker 1: and I was in the studio and I played to
Speaker 1: be for Gucci, and I just went up like, bro,
Speaker 1: I got a verse hard to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And he was like, ship, get on that motherfucker. They
Speaker 1: got shot like you to get on that ship, so
Speaker 1: just making you just make these songs for yourself, Like no,
Speaker 1: you know what it was like I'm saying now, oh
Speaker 1: like no, I don't even I don't even well, I
Speaker 1: need to go in there, going in there, But I
Speaker 1: don't never lay nothing down. I ain't never. I ain't
Speaker 1: been in the boostince I was like like seventeen eighteens.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But the reason why I
Speaker 1: had to stopped rapping right then I had to make
Speaker 1: my decision when Goop said, man, get on in there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The reason why I had
Speaker 1: to stop, like make my decision right then because it's like, man,
Speaker 1: all right, bro, what you want to do? Because you
Speaker 1: need to master something, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: like if you're trying to be that producer, I'm coming here,
Speaker 1: got down, coming here, trying to rap and then got there,
Speaker 1: get your beats out, Like, man, what you want to do?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm sayings and do the music exactly
Speaker 1: what you want to do? You want to be the
Speaker 1: biggest gangster or the biggest rapper, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you want that? Like for
Speaker 1: real timber the moment like Mike will hit man, you're
Speaker 1: rapping and you did your own beat. Like, do you
Speaker 1: ever I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that, do
Speaker 1: you ever think about that? Do you ever vision that?
Speaker 1: I did? Vision it at one point? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I haven't had that urge. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I haven't had that urge to really
Speaker 1: like to do it. But the reason why I had
Speaker 1: stopped rapping because I was like, man, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about like like I wanted to tell the truth,
Speaker 1: and I knew what I was rapping about. One of
Speaker 1: the truth I was talking about, like money, cars. I
Speaker 1: was seeing it for myself. I already knew. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: one day, IM gonna have a bad one dam to
Speaker 1: be able to get whatever whip I want. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I like pretty girls and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And god damn, I'm gonna goddamn always
Speaker 1: be fresh and I'm gonna always rock this, this, that that.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna just be clean.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, even if it ain't the most
Speaker 1: designer ship, I'm gonna just be a clean gass player,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So back then, when I
Speaker 1: was rapping that ship, I'll say certain ship from the soul,
Speaker 1: but it but it was like They're like, man, I
Speaker 1: ain't really got no money like that, and I ain't
Speaker 1: really got this ship like that. That's why for everybody though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't be speaking that roly into existance. They
Speaker 1: don't have it yet. Man. I had to do that
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I couldn't jump out there like that
Speaker 1: to be rocking the Nigger ship. And just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying confident, like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I couln't. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I just had the
Speaker 1: goddamn stop and just really start producing, like I know
Speaker 1: what this ship happsed to sound like. Bro, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like you know I'm saying, I know
Speaker 1: what this ship was to sound like. I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fucking music like nerd and I used to keep them
Speaker 1: off fucking walk man earphones on goddamn every album I'm
Speaker 1: buying that ship. I'm I'm in tune with like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, how this ship proposed to sound? Bro.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm I'm gonna far back and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna got down first mate beats. Then I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: producing the I'm gonna start producing hits. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: executive producing albums, and you know what, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: this producing ship all the way there. Gucci didn't already
Speaker 1: like also, like around the time we're doing Trap back,
Speaker 1: Guci had a long time with me, Like, Bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: Like what the fund you round? Nigga? Like, Man, Nigga,
Speaker 1: you don't think you're holding the frail, Bro, you don't
Speaker 1: think you're holding Doctor Drake. Bro, Like you don't think
Speaker 1: you're holding timber Man. Come on, Bro, Like, man, you
Speaker 1: post have been going up? Bro, Like what the are
Speaker 1: you doing? Bro? Is it? Because it is it? Because baby,
Speaker 1: do you think you would enjoy performance? No? Right, that's
Speaker 1: what I feel like. I feel like it ain't that
Speaker 1: I feel like your heart wouldn't be with the rest
Speaker 1: of the ship that come with it. But it's so
Speaker 1: it's so weird though, because it's like I did a
Speaker 1: I did like some DJ sets in front of Big crowds,
Speaker 1: and it's like I thought about it, like, bro, you're
Speaker 1: damn they're performing broping. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, you're repping his other
Speaker 1: nig ship. But I don't want to be obligated to like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have to go on the tour. I've never been
Speaker 1: on a whole tour, even when I went on Toward
Speaker 1: the Future to a restrim tour, it's like man, weekend
Speaker 1: a week you know what I'm saying. And that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I cannot got things going the whole tour. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't do all them interviews and then like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I was never really doing
Speaker 1: this ship for the fame, bro, Like I was doing
Speaker 1: it for the impact and for the money, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it was like more like I
Speaker 1: wanted to have big songs that had big impact. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like what it is nowadays, Like people know
Speaker 1: Mike Well have made it, they know the music, they
Speaker 1: know the production. It was a big impact, but some
Speaker 1: people might not know what I look like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I could walk over here, I can
Speaker 1: go over there. You know what I'm saying. They might
Speaker 1: not know what I look like, they might not know
Speaker 1: who I am. I wan't doing it for the fun.
Speaker 1: I wannt doing it for the attention for a motherucker
Speaker 1: to just be like you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: but if a person gets excited and they know who
Speaker 1: I am, and they and they do, you'll let me
Speaker 1: get an autogram, let me take a picture. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I showed love. It's all good, but
Speaker 1: I want't doing it for that. Some people just doing
Speaker 1: it just straight for the attention, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I and then I also you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We we didn't have everything like I was trying to
Speaker 1: come up. I told my mom like ship man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna change. I'm changing everything up, like I'm changing everything
Speaker 1: up for us boom. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I was doing it for the money too, But I
Speaker 1: wasn't only money hungry or money driven like the first
Speaker 1: like all the way up to until like two thousand
Speaker 1: and eleven, I won't getting paid for no beats like
Speaker 1: all that mixtape should I was doing. I want to
Speaker 1: getting paid for no beats, so I want I want
Speaker 1: never that producer either that was like, oh, I ain't
Speaker 1: getting paid, I ain't pulling up. No, I'm pulling up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm pulling up on everybody session.
Speaker 1: Every studio in Atlanta was working on my beat at
Speaker 1: one point. You know I'm saying, I'll pull up the
Speaker 1: hot beats. A room be room, see room working on
Speaker 1: my beat, pull up the patchwork. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A room b room working on my beat. Go to
Speaker 1: eleven Street, the a room b room working on my beat.
Speaker 1: Put up on two chains on God damn, um on
Speaker 1: on that boom. He working on my beat. And then
Speaker 1: if if it's some cats that I might have met
Speaker 1: in the street, or you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: might have met at the clubs or whatever I put
Speaker 1: up at their track spot whatever. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: play them some beats, Give them some beats. Everybody working
Speaker 1: on my beats. I'm doing this ship that got down
Speaker 1: eleven am, twelve pm. All the way they got down
Speaker 1: four or five in the morning, that I'm going all
Speaker 1: the way back the car. I'm gonna wake up the
Speaker 1: next day, do the same ship until I got them.
Speaker 1: We've been cut THEMN. You know what I'm saying, until
Speaker 1: we got a real wave. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: until we're making a real impact. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like and and certain people would will get it confused,
Speaker 1: were like, man, this nigger got there and to be
Speaker 1: blowing me up. This nigga to be tripping knock. But
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get that. I see you working.
Speaker 1: I just saw you in the club. I saw you
Speaker 1: got down perform. I got your number. I got your
Speaker 1: number for this. I didn't get your number that goddamn
Speaker 1: just say I got your number. I got your number
Speaker 1: so I can got them pull up on you and
Speaker 1: we can make a banker right quick. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying up so like so like whenever I used
Speaker 1: to be calling the nigga bank his as had my
Speaker 1: favorite song that stopped playing. Man Man, he was around
Speaker 1: the episode. I bet you ain't got fitty songs. I
Speaker 1: got playlist. I ain't got no figure of playlist. It
Speaker 1: ain't fit. I'm gonna find he man, man man, my
Speaker 1: boys riding around, we were riding around to that guy
Speaker 1: down stopped playing. You know what I'm saying, like, like
Speaker 1: a motherfucker, and I'm calling this man, like what you
Speaker 1: got damn going? What you got going on? Are you
Speaker 1: in the studio? You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you know what I get in the studio, or
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep you in the voicemail. You're like, Man,
Speaker 1: a fucking man. You know what I'm saying, O Trumple
Speaker 1: just came over the hell trouble. Let you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm gonna funk with the duct take niggers
Speaker 1: because they're moving out here. Bro. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like everybody know that. You know what I'm saying. They're moving.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like, man boom, I'm calling all
Speaker 1: of them. I'm calling got them, my boy Elorado, I'm
Speaker 1: calling oj the Juice Man, I'm calling got them, Gucci,
Speaker 1: I'm calling to Chains, I'm calling you know what I'm saying, everybody,
Speaker 1: bank roll my boy Jack. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: got damn You know what I'm saying. Everybody from the city, bro,
Speaker 1: Like everybody, Bro, you know what I'm saying. Until we
Speaker 1: got damn make a banger, man, people were just talking
Speaker 1: about that ship man walking home Pee two man ter
Speaker 1: so look so like whenever I talk about you to anybody,
Speaker 1: I always call you the musical Maven of Marietta like
Speaker 1: in real life because you like, it's just like you're
Speaker 1: just so incredible and you do so much. But another
Speaker 1: thing that I think a lot of people might not
Speaker 1: know about that I want you to expand on is
Speaker 1: the Free Wishes Foundation making wishes matter. I'm sorry, not
Speaker 1: pree wishes apologize. No, No No, that's all good. And it's
Speaker 1: like you do you do a lot like and you
Speaker 1: don't I know, you're not a credit person, so you
Speaker 1: don't really talk about it. But it's like you do
Speaker 1: a lot for a lot of people, from like kids
Speaker 1: to the old people to like all this kind of money,
Speaker 1: you know, that's all this ship, that's what that's that's
Speaker 1: all this ship about what kind of money ahead? I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. That's that's the thing that you always
Speaker 1: keep as a mystery, you know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 1: a person always gonna underestimate you or overestimate you. Somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna be like man bron But it's like she said,
Speaker 1: I got nothing fine me one time I'm wearing that.
Speaker 1: But but was like, I looked like it's like man.
Speaker 1: Like a person. I always a person could look at
Speaker 1: and be like man, Yo, he'd be with jay Z
Speaker 1: and Beyonce, but that man gotta be in or a
Speaker 1: person could be like man. Y'all then put up in
Speaker 1: a white tea and some flipflopers on. Bro, he didn't
Speaker 1: have only got that this isn't that. But I know
Speaker 1: I'm getting my money in that niggy out the streets.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Both of them lying, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Both online. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's the thing you
Speaker 1: always leaving that mystery? Bro. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: far how much money? But I ain't saying how much
Speaker 1: I said with cand of okay, okay, you know it's
Speaker 1: a different kind of do the funk I want to do.
Speaker 1: I want to just go buy me. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm a grown man. I'm saying. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: a grown man. Bro. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: just feel like I'm a grown man. Like like could
Speaker 1: they say man do what they want. Boys do what
Speaker 1: they can, you know what I'm saying, Like, I just
Speaker 1: feel like I'm a grown man. Hello, Okay, but I
Speaker 1: feel like with the making wishes matter though, like making
Speaker 1: wishes matter, I never You're right, j I never. I
Speaker 1: never did anything for like credit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like me and my pops always get into it about
Speaker 1: this every year, you know what I'm saying. I remember
Speaker 1: one year we were we were at at Grady and
Speaker 1: you were helping me paint the ship with the kids.
Speaker 1: And then a couple of days later we were at
Speaker 1: the old Well the nursing home, like feeding the nurses,
Speaker 1: sharioke with the older people, and they like and even
Speaker 1: if they didn't have a full scope or understanding of
Speaker 1: who you were, they like who totally were in love
Speaker 1: with you because you took the time with them, like
Speaker 1: they were like each one of those older people were important. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that was like each one of them was your
Speaker 1: grandma or like your grandpa, like your untie or some ship.
Speaker 1: And and that ship was like man, that ship, I
Speaker 1: can't like know how you get the feeling when you
Speaker 1: hear some ship, like you can't explain it, like to
Speaker 1: see that like with all that you have going on
Speaker 1: and like with all that you we're doing, and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, all that kind of ship for
Speaker 1: you to do that and take that kind of time
Speaker 1: and make these people feel important for a day like
Speaker 1: that ship was like really almost brought it negative tears
Speaker 1: like whatever. Like that was like also real ship, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't do anything unless I'm passionate about it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I don't really you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's like because I know
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give my whole heart to it, you know,
Speaker 1: saying That's why I'd be a letdown sometimes. But with artists,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, when you when you put
Speaker 1: your whole heart into something and then be like the
Speaker 1: energy is not matching, it's like he's being difficult or
Speaker 1: he's you know what I'm saying, Like it's like damn
Speaker 1: bro all I'm trying to do. It's God that make
Speaker 1: us the best joint. But like with making wisious matter,
Speaker 1: I came up with this thing like like a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, like three years ago, like called wish Week,
Speaker 1: and that's what Jay is talking about you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's like UM, and it's like and
Speaker 1: basically we just pull up on on different kind of
Speaker 1: groups of people. Like we we go over here to
Speaker 1: like this um this UM shelter, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and it's like all the kids and that we just
Speaker 1: bring all the kids toys, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then we rented out and Dready's and like I runt
Speaker 1: it out and Dready for like two three years in
Speaker 1: a row. And it's like I paid for all the games.
Speaker 1: So all the kids running around that motherfucker just playing
Speaker 1: the games, riding and gold card for free. And then
Speaker 1: they got Santa Claus in the big room and then
Speaker 1: the whole room is filled with toys. So you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Anybody who like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: didn't have toys for their kids and call you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, they're coming there again, too many toys
Speaker 1: for their kids, their nephews, the you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: their cousins, everybody leaving to UM. We went to Cleveland
Speaker 1: with kids and going up and we went to the
Speaker 1: hamp with Rio and we gave out. We had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of the ships. Funny, we had a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of like swimming pools left over, so we were
Speaker 1: giving out like the swim pulls and ship even though
Speaker 1: it's December. So kid and Gunning and everybody came up
Speaker 1: with this idea that we were gonna kick it to
Speaker 1: the kid is like these were hot tubs. Then we
Speaker 1: came out the swimbles and a little kids, but they
Speaker 1: were thinking in their mind that they were getting hot tubs.
Speaker 1: So they were going on and we got hot tubs us.
Speaker 1: That was like two years ago. Like we had like
Speaker 1: a um, we had like a truck full of goddamn toys.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, because it's crazy, like
Speaker 1: like you know something mess with my man Steve burn me,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, and like he he
Speaker 1: like over like a lot of toys and stuff like
Speaker 1: in the world, you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 1: we always team up and make things happen. Man salute
Speaker 1: to him. And like we had like a whole truck
Speaker 1: of toys and so Gunna heard we had a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of toys left over for which week. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying so it was like Gunna was supposed to be
Speaker 1: doing something on the south side of the walmart. So
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I'm pull up on you and
Speaker 1: with you know what I'm saying, So put up on him.
Speaker 1: When we had the whole truck and then um, next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, like man, I'm talking about the whole net,
Speaker 1: got them lined up, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: just passing out toys. And then we tended up with
Speaker 1: my brother trying and like he's teamed up with all
Speaker 1: the all the farmers in Georgia, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we had like fresh produce out there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like everything out there, and we're just
Speaker 1: handing out that because you know, you never know who
Speaker 1: needs help. We're like some people need help with toys,
Speaker 1: and then some people need help with like you know
Speaker 1: what having that Christmas dinner, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like we're trying to make sure everybody have
Speaker 1: like a fire at Christmas dinner and having toys and everything,
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying. So boom. We started out on
Speaker 1: the net, then we went to Cleveland put up on
Speaker 1: Key Boom. It was a whole line right there. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Uh what the ya? Kmark? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying. Kmark used to be right there. Boom.
Speaker 1: Then we left there and we went to the shout
Speaker 1: out the rio, you know what I'm saying. We went
Speaker 1: to the hamp We put them to the apartments. Everybody
Speaker 1: lined up. Boom. We're passing out the toys. But my
Speaker 1: Pops is telling me like, Yo, why the hell aren't
Speaker 1: you putting this on on on the news? Like why
Speaker 1: aren't you putting this out? I'm like, yo, shout out
Speaker 1: of a little pops man. But he'd be right. I
Speaker 1: know he'd be right. I'll be hearing them, but it'd
Speaker 1: be like, man, my heart is just like, man, I
Speaker 1: ain't really I want doing this to put it on
Speaker 1: the news, Like I'm really just doing it just to
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Touch the city right quick, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But if like the news. I
Speaker 1: was just thinking, like, man, once we put this out,
Speaker 1: the news gonna put it on, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's like, no, No, like the news. They
Speaker 1: were trying to get an interview with you when you
Speaker 1: when you pulled up over here, but you put up
Speaker 1: like right after they left and then who wo And
Speaker 1: then you know what I'm saying, He's like, man, you're
Speaker 1: pulling up to all these different neighborhoods, like Cloud Changing one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like something the camera crew
Speaker 1: with you passing that ship. No publicity motivating other people
Speaker 1: to do this ship is good if it is publicized
Speaker 1: and it might make some other names. They should be
Speaker 1: doing this, you know, but and showing people like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's not just this producer that's associated with this song.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, He's actually a person's out
Speaker 1: here from Atlanta. Actually a person. Yeah, and that's all
Speaker 1: my Pops was saying, Like people know who the people
Speaker 1: who you did for. They know that. But but but
Speaker 1: at the same time, that's real. But then at the
Speaker 1: same time, I go back to what Jay saying, like
Speaker 1: a lot of these people don't even know who I was.
Speaker 1: They're just like this, y'all, nigga put it together. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He and they just knew,
Speaker 1: like this is the person that cared and gave a
Speaker 1: funk about us, and that is trying to make us
Speaker 1: forget about all our troubles for a day exactly. You know.
Speaker 1: So I put up on a lady at all um
Speaker 1: like like at a like at a motel, at random motel.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, boom dropped off. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, some dinner and all that, you know, saying,
Speaker 1: her and their kids were in this motel. They couldn't
Speaker 1: even believe I pulled up over there. You know I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I pulled up over there. But it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying what pops are saying. Like certain people might
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, Mike Willdom in Hollywood, man, you know,
Speaker 1: he's just being l a you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: He's just being the Hills. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He don't even got them being in Atlanta, no more,
Speaker 1: like he don't even be around you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then you got you know what I'm saying, certain
Speaker 1: people that are like, no, no, bro pulled out to
Speaker 1: the hemp and he got them on one over here.
Speaker 1: They might know about it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just by just by being tapped in. But then if
Speaker 1: it was on the news that everybody in the city
Speaker 1: would know at least like, no, bro, don't be on
Speaker 1: the Hollywood ship like I want. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. You know, I got, I got, I got
Speaker 1: my I'm like you got. I feel like to me,
Speaker 1: Hollywood ships like people like not being able to think
Speaker 1: past a certain level, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: certain people that say, like, man, you're on some guys
Speaker 1: down Hollywood ship, like they might not ever been to Hollywood,
Speaker 1: so Hollywood, Hollywood is the biggest thing in their minds.
Speaker 1: So it's like, man, you want some out of here ship,
Speaker 1: like you just on some thank you, You're just too
Speaker 1: good for you know what I'm saying. But if you
Speaker 1: really go to Hollywood as dirty as fun, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it's really nasty as fun. I'm
Speaker 1: never on the Hollywood ship. If anything, I'm on some
Speaker 1: Beverly Hill ship. You know what I'm saying, Like Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: Well you know what I'm saying. And but but still
Speaker 1: still yeah, even when I'm on That's why I said
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills will because it's like I'm still I'm still
Speaker 1: the same Atlanta nigga. I'm just in Beverly Hills on
Speaker 1: some nice clean ship. But I feel like that's how
Speaker 1: you posted. Goddamn, that's where you posted. Take it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I feel like Hollywood ship maybe maybe some hater ship,
Speaker 1: but maybe there's some genius behind it. I always like
Speaker 1: to see both corns. Maybe it's because because people in
Speaker 1: Hollywood have lost their mind. To a lot of people
Speaker 1: in Hollywood who have lost their mind. So nigga might
Speaker 1: just be like, Bro, you you want some Hollywood you
Speaker 1: lost your mind, but you're like one of them Jay's.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I want them. I think
Speaker 1: you want some Hollywood ship is a nigga phrase. SI
Speaker 1: let's say you got a Potner right Hollywood. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that that partner might they might play that
Speaker 1: Potner record on the radio one time. It's not a rotation,
Speaker 1: it's not it's one time. Then they lose they fucking
Speaker 1: mind start acting crazy with everybody around them. That's the
Speaker 1: other side of the Hollywood ship is like, damn, you
Speaker 1: can't even you can't even accept your blessings without getting
Speaker 1: crazy with everything. That's the other side to me. Hollywood
Speaker 1: ship is when a nigga like forgets where he where
Speaker 1: he's come from. And that's that's what they call it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They go together. They's to say,
Speaker 1: you want the Hollywood she because you know, you know
Speaker 1: you're trying to get in shape, Hollywood. You need to
Speaker 1: say the Hollywood she because you I don't go to
Speaker 1: certain clubs no more right, Holly's Hollywood, right, yeah, because
Speaker 1: I don't want to do a club. They got a gun.
Speaker 1: But the whole ship or part of the Hollywood ship not.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you can't they just be Some
Speaker 1: people be using that phrase out of contact. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: what is it? We need to we need to get
Speaker 1: them because it's like it comes from two different places.
Speaker 1: Like the real definition. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: the definition should be what you just said, when you
Speaker 1: go there, when you go and you start losing yourself
Speaker 1: because people a lot of people go to l A
Speaker 1: and look what they call it, La La la. A
Speaker 1: lot of people go to l A or you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, go out of town and just lose
Speaker 1: their mind, forget where they came from and got damn
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so it still had to
Speaker 1: end up right back there exactly. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I can accept up being on some Hollywood ship
Speaker 1: if it's like bro you don't lost, don't be bad.
Speaker 1: If they is trying to better himself, like if you
Speaker 1: don't want to eat right, if you want to do right,
Speaker 1: if you want to be in better and you get
Speaker 1: your tee feet allyd man, whatever you get your guy
Speaker 1: damn whatever. Man, you know what I'm talking about. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that point you but then you might
Speaker 1: have but I'm telling you to get deep, because then
Speaker 1: you might have a nigger to get a chain right
Speaker 1: and aking eat aking. He's cute man like that. That
Speaker 1: ain't the same things. We don't say the other words.
Speaker 1: Some fugets, but who don't want to be bosh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be I'm going to get more money better.
Speaker 1: I guess you don't want to be. I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like I feel like it's the
Speaker 1: act of being boo but being broke, So I'm not
Speaker 1: really there but the facade and then broke. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm kind of. Tapper adopted dollar Broke Broke as a mentality.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like if you
Speaker 1: got a broke mentality, but you got that acting like
Speaker 1: you're better than everybody. You know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make something up. What do you Okay, let's
Speaker 1: let do you use the word no? I don't either
Speaker 1: to be honest, I might say wrap nigga niggah or
Speaker 1: something like that. I don't really know West Hollywood ship
Speaker 1: though Hollywood, I feel like if you're trying to better yourself,
Speaker 1: that's called a girlfriend. Some people ain't ready for girls.
Speaker 1: I know what is hood? I know that got No,
Speaker 1: I'm just talking basically of a nigga. Just start acting different,
Speaker 1: that's what Hollywood is different, but there's not really but
Speaker 1: he's not giving. He's not giving you the same. But
Speaker 1: you're trying to act. You try to active. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know the Hollywood. Yeah, that's it, like you acting. Hollywood
Speaker 1: is what the actors that that's that's that's so you're acting.
Speaker 1: That's okay, you get what I'm saying. That's it. Like
Speaker 1: that at even the same saying that you lost your
Speaker 1: back day acting brand new, it's basically the same ship.
Speaker 1: They just say back in the day he acting brand new?
Speaker 1: Are they acting brand new? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: brand like? It's the modern day way of saying that
Speaker 1: ship is like Hollywood. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: ask me, but get what a nigga be on. So
Speaker 1: Hollywood ships up, I'd be on Hollywood day will be
Speaker 1: to let go. I'm not going fair. It's not for me.
Speaker 1: Like if that's Hollywood and the Hollywood, I don't eat that.
Speaker 1: I eat the sell. What's the name of the telling
Speaker 1: that Beverly Hill Bank right there? Okay, I take that
Speaker 1: starts bank whole different Instagram Hollywood. Beverly Hill Bank gonna
Speaker 1: come out when that Beverly Hills Well on Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: on it s coming out? Yeah, the album coming out
Speaker 1: after Michael. You know what I'm saying. Beverly Hills Well
Speaker 1: every year. Now that's hard. Yeah, I Bely Hills that
Speaker 1: ship nicest hill over there too. Yeah. The streets clean,
Speaker 1: the streets clean over there in Beverly Hills, Hollywood. That ship,
Speaker 1: thank saying, Ain'tywood. And I feel like man at the
Speaker 1: same time, like man when people always be like man,
Speaker 1: I want to put you in the category for growth Man,
Speaker 1: don't let that. Don't let that make you feel like
Speaker 1: out of I never let that make me feel I
Speaker 1: can't tell nobody else would to do, but I never
Speaker 1: let that make me feel out of pocket around for
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying, You gotta
Speaker 1: be comfortable as a man with within yourself if you're
Speaker 1: trying to do something better funk with this person called it.
Speaker 1: He just ain't trying to grow. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Some people ain't trying to grow. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can't make that person grow. But if you can
Speaker 1: see the light and you're trying to grow, man, grow
Speaker 1: as far as you can grow. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Ain't no tree, Ain't no tree around. This motherfucker was like, man,
Speaker 1: ship we can got down going hunting feet and just
Speaker 1: stop because another tree got down was white. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, man, them trees go as far
Speaker 1: as they can go. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can't get caught up in that all that bullshit
Speaker 1: on whatever label that the motherfucker put on you, just
Speaker 1: because whatever you're doing. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: motherfucker's a hater, you know what I'm saying. And they're
Speaker 1: trying to keep you in the box. They're trying to
Speaker 1: keep you and you know I'm something they're trying to
Speaker 1: keep you boxed, staying. I can't let that happen from me.
Speaker 1: So another question that UM was sent to me by
Speaker 1: several of our followers is they want to know, like,
Speaker 1: would you being a producer and with you spending like
Speaker 1: all of your time in the studio all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff whatever whatever, UM, like, how do you have
Speaker 1: time for romance? She she said, all that ship to
Speaker 1: ask Mike will who you fucking I got? I got
Speaker 1: my girl, you know what I'm saying. And men my girl.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She she's been teaching me
Speaker 1: better with romance because I didn't really have time for
Speaker 1: romance because I was just so focused on my career
Speaker 1: and sometimes like Mike still, yeah, I might still, I
Speaker 1: might still be you know what I'm saying, focus on
Speaker 1: my career and you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: she she showed me like, man, yo, let's go to
Speaker 1: Napper Valley. You know what I'm saying, Yes, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like, let's let's go on. It's like
Speaker 1: like let's like, you know what I'm saying, like, let's
Speaker 1: do this, Like you know what I'm saying, So she'll
Speaker 1: take a nigga out of the box and make me
Speaker 1: think about you know what I'm saying, things that I
Speaker 1: might not have been thinking about. And now I romance
Speaker 1: like that. And then she also does music and we're
Speaker 1: about to present her to the world real soon. She
Speaker 1: hardest fun you know what I'm saying. She does Latin
Speaker 1: music and and yeah, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: and and that's another way we romance. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's my dog right there. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying right up? That was up that that's hard.
Speaker 1: Salute to Mike will Man, Proud of all your success.
Speaker 1: Keep going and appreciate that ship man. Oh yeah, the
Speaker 1: difference between the producing and no, all right, this ship
Speaker 1: big on some real ship with Mariah Carey man, Like
Speaker 1: it's just really what it boiled down to, is we
Speaker 1: both aries. You know what I'm saying, That's it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I'm a true areas man,
Speaker 1: true areas you know what I'm saying, like, so y'all
Speaker 1: were supposed to do some music. It didn't never we
Speaker 1: we got a song. We got a song. It was
Speaker 1: a banger. You know what I'm saying. It's called Faded.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's called she saying
Speaker 1: my tag and everything's a little Maria, but Memora were
Speaker 1: still that's my dog and everything. But our our our process,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When we when we when
Speaker 1: we had did Faded or whatnot, it was it was
Speaker 1: crazy because I was so excited to work with Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like ben't listened to her
Speaker 1: music the whole way growing up, everything like that. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I am high um about my sound,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and like about the ear
Speaker 1: drummer sound, and I gotta protect this at all costs.
Speaker 1: Like my boy Mars he had them drums banging on
Speaker 1: that beat. So I was like, I gotta make sure
Speaker 1: like this, we push this to the limit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it ain't coming back no lower
Speaker 1: than how the two tracks sounded so boom when we
Speaker 1: do the song. At this time, I didn't really know
Speaker 1: too much of like too much about me. She knew
Speaker 1: like certain songs that were out, but you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It was just like she had a process.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I have been working she
Speaker 1: she had a process that's been going on for like
Speaker 1: over twenty some years, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then like like her process and then like my production
Speaker 1: was so new. You know what I'm saying. It's just
Speaker 1: like okay, boom, we do a song. She wants her
Speaker 1: engineer to make the song. I'm like, yo, okay, can
Speaker 1: your engineer make the vocals and then just let us
Speaker 1: mix the beat and then we bring it together like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just trying to compromise because you know,
Speaker 1: like I didn't show my engineer certain tricks and we
Speaker 1: locked in a certain kind of way. That this is
Speaker 1: basically you know what I'm saying, And and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but you no, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: break it down. I'm just know I ain't wi gonna
Speaker 1: I'm trying to break it down because if I if I,
Speaker 1: if I come across like that, they're gonna say, I'm
Speaker 1: want some Hollywood ship. They're gonna say all that. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what happened. I'm saying, but I but I
Speaker 1: but I, but I ain't even just say, like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: she wanted somebody makes my beat when nobody MIxS my beat.
Speaker 1: And that's just what I'm letting you know what happened.
Speaker 1: I'm putting you down where everything happened. What happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so you know what I'm saying. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, boom, we we we end doing you
Speaker 1: know what saying? We end up doing the song. I
Speaker 1: want somebody else to mix my beat. I did the
Speaker 1: same thing with Beaches Better. I held all the way
Speaker 1: out to the end, you know what I'm saying. Then
Speaker 1: jay Z ended up letting me and my guy Jason
Speaker 1: mixed the track and then they put it with and
Speaker 1: jay Z like somebody mixing his vocals. We put it together.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, they had my guy Jason mixed
Speaker 1: three more songs on the album. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Jason was and Jason was a real one. He came
Speaker 1: to me and was like, Yo, Mike man, ho say
Speaker 1: you want me to mix three more songs on the album?
Speaker 1: Break anything? I could do it. I'm like, hey, no, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You can't do that ship, Bro, Like,
Speaker 1: you can't do that ship bro, because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, they didn't want us to do it
Speaker 1: in the first place. I fought for you, so now
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna do it. He was like, damn, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, bro, you know what I'm saying. And he
Speaker 1: was like, man, he was talking to a manager, like, man,
Speaker 1: Mike car just said I couldn't do it. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to see what kind of response I'm gonna get,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He wrote with me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta mix them, jay Z, but you
Speaker 1: gotta go and get them three threefold placements on everybody
Speaker 1: shout out to my boy Jason Joshua. But you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, that's what pushing it to the
Speaker 1: limit gets. But with Mariah Carry, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it was like she had an engineer that usually mixes
Speaker 1: all herself. So Boom were in the We're in the
Speaker 1: studio and she played her album and then Jeez was
Speaker 1: at was at the studio and everything like that, and
Speaker 1: then she had told Jeez to have a talk with me,
Speaker 1: and then my boy Young was like, bro, go ahead,
Speaker 1: and you know I'm saying, get him the fire to
Speaker 1: let them go aheadnock the record out right, you know
Speaker 1: this ride carey, bro, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't even want to make it a difficult thing,
Speaker 1: but like you know what I'm saying, Like I've seen
Speaker 1: your whole come up. But like you know what I'm saying, boom,
Speaker 1: Just I'm like, gee, I can't you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I can't bro. I literally let this be documented.
Speaker 1: Mike will bucked m a ride carry I love it. No,
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just like I just couldn't bro
Speaker 1: because it's like if you had made up, you have
Speaker 1: made up at that point, you have made up in
Speaker 1: your mind and your heart that if I'm standing on this,
Speaker 1: if it don't come out and the record don't happen,
Speaker 1: I'm at peace. I'm cool with that, you know I'm
Speaker 1: saying because I had told me he liked that same
Speaker 1: beat I'm saying, but it's like Mamori already had a
Speaker 1: song to it. So it's like I sent Dr mor
Speaker 1: Beach what I'm saying. So I was like man that
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it was like, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm not. You can
Speaker 1: have your your vocals are beautiful. I want whoever mixes
Speaker 1: your vocals on all these songs to mix these vocals,
Speaker 1: whoever been doing this for the last twenty years, do that.
Speaker 1: But my guy, you know what I'm saying, it's gonna
Speaker 1: push the needle on this production side, and sonically, we're
Speaker 1: gonna just funk it up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so they couldn't grasp that concept. And then later
Speaker 1: on they ended up flying my out in New York,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then I'm up there
Speaker 1: in New York and then we're all up there working
Speaker 1: and um, and then it was like it was like
Speaker 1: I had like a certain kick that was missing on
Speaker 1: the one. You know what I'm saying, It's just missing
Speaker 1: on the one. Mariety didn't like that because she was saying, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we don't usually do our ballots like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I've been having the same fan base.
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw the mouth and I'm just like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I respect your fan base, but I just want to
Speaker 1: do something new with you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: like can we just try something new? Like this is
Speaker 1: just knew all this is just new ship. Like I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to protect the air drummer sound and make
Speaker 1: sure like this is a mighty wood air drum production
Speaker 1: right now this process. Was she like offended or was
Speaker 1: she receiving? I mean, what was the energy? Look? It
Speaker 1: was just like she saw her way and I saw
Speaker 1: my way and it just won't even you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know she was it was, but but
Speaker 1: it was no, no because because no, because if I'd
Speaker 1: be lying, if I'm like, man, she was bucking like
Speaker 1: she was mad, because if we want we want to
Speaker 1: round that bitch arguing in the studio, it was just
Speaker 1: Mike and my dad and Rotting and Jerkins and now
Speaker 1: I don't type. Man, he look, she she's looking at
Speaker 1: she's looking at it like she's looking at it like Mike,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just starts saying, like trying
Speaker 1: to look at you. He look, she's looking at her.
Speaker 1: She looking at a light. Yo, Mike boom, Hey, this
Speaker 1: is my sound right here. I got j D right here.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, j D. Tell him, j D.
Speaker 1: Please tell me. Bro. You're from Atlanta. Bro, you've seen
Speaker 1: my whole come up. You know what I'm saying. We're
Speaker 1: both producers. I'm going through for you. You know, look
Speaker 1: at he's looking at us both like he like he
Speaker 1: played the neutral like, man, I don't. I don't, man, Mike,
Speaker 1: she got her process, you know what I'm saying. But Maria,
Speaker 1: like Mike does, have like his own sound like to
Speaker 1: like man, y'all. Just you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: just gotta find a way that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to get either way. But me and her,
Speaker 1: I'm not about to be aggressive with no female. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm not about to be arguing
Speaker 1: with nor female. And you know what I'm saying. She's
Speaker 1: a woman like she's a you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: She's a she's a real you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: she's a diva. You know what saying. She all that respectfully,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: So we want to walk. That's why if I'm saying
Speaker 1: here saying like yo, I was bucking and she was bucking.
Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I if I would say like
Speaker 1: the energy was like that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that what Bank was talking about, you know what, and
Speaker 1: like like well Bank was talking about they want no
Speaker 1: bucking or no you know what I'm saying, arguing or
Speaker 1: not going on. It was just like boom. It was
Speaker 1: like a certain part where you know they were adding
Speaker 1: certain production, adding more production onto the track. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was Jimmy Jammy, Terry Lewis, And
Speaker 1: it's like you all want to be in that room,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, This is fucking Jimmy,
Speaker 1: jamm Terry Lewis. And every time I see you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Jimmy jam like like he's showing me love,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, he embraced me. So
Speaker 1: it's like, man, even if I don't even press nothing
Speaker 1: in there and do nothing, I just want to be
Speaker 1: in the room and you know what I'm saying, experience
Speaker 1: this ship like or just hear what they're doing or yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it's my ship. And it's like and It's like,
Speaker 1: even if it's like an interlude or you know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, respectfully, I'll respect your vision. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to knock your vision or anything because it's your
Speaker 1: album too, you know what I'm saying, it's my productions,
Speaker 1: your album. But it's like, man, let me be a
Speaker 1: part of the whole process if you want me to
Speaker 1: produce this track, because you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I want to be able to proudly put that if
Speaker 1: I'm a had that Mike, we made a tag up
Speaker 1: there and really be proudly and passionate about blowing up
Speaker 1: DJ Scream, blowing up the whole radios and everybody being like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I got this R and B hit with Mariah. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. She she she was looking at her like, Yo, Mike,
Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm saying. That's Jimmy Jim Terry Lewis,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, man, look this
Speaker 1: is this is I'm introducing you right now to Ronnie Jerkins.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. He didn't did this
Speaker 1: many you know what I'm saying songs and this and that,
Speaker 1: and then got damn like, man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you can't be in the city over them because
Speaker 1: that's Jimmy jim Terry Lewis, And I'm just like, so
Speaker 1: I'm blown by the whole process. Now it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I can't really use my engineer, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I can't really got name like mixing me go like
Speaker 1: like it's like I'm the little boy in the room
Speaker 1: or some ship, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm
Speaker 1: being restricted. So it's like at that point, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I was kind of blown off the process.
Speaker 1: And then I was a little bit younger, so you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I had a little bit less patient,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then it was like
Speaker 1: the last straw was like when um, when I was
Speaker 1: just like like they had looped the beat for her
Speaker 1: to write to know what I'm saying, and they were
Speaker 1: so used to hearing that version that they thought like
Speaker 1: that's how the beat went. But as soon as I
Speaker 1: heard the version, I'm like, yo, the beat got loop.
Speaker 1: And then they're like what you mean? And I was
Speaker 1: like like the second verses the first verse. And then
Speaker 1: they're like, um, like no, like like it's the same,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm like no, but like
Speaker 1: I'm sure, like the beat is loop, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They're like, maybe you're used to a different version.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you know what, Yeah, the only version
Speaker 1: I gave, y'all. It's only one version, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the version I gave y'all, y'all look
Speaker 1: the beat. I'm like, I ain't got a problem, but
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like see where we're at, because
Speaker 1: like we had some strings going in there. Maybe we
Speaker 1: can do the same thing that y'all like in the
Speaker 1: first version. We can just put the like I don't
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like maybe we can make
Speaker 1: this ship work. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We're
Speaker 1: trying to like fix it together. And then like it
Speaker 1: was like when you have certain people that's been working
Speaker 1: for you for so long, like they started getting involved
Speaker 1: and I only agree with you, so they get involved
Speaker 1: and they're like, yo, she said like she said, like
Speaker 1: she didn't do it, Like you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: why do you keep going? Yeah? And folks said, got that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: lady does hair. I'm looking at her like, damn, lady,
Speaker 1: like don't you do hair? Like I'm talking, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I'm talking about this beat that
Speaker 1: I that I brought up here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then you know what I'm saying. And then the
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, it's like boom. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The engineer was like, yo, man, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you this is not a different beat. But he didn't
Speaker 1: have a session in front of him. I'm like, he's
Speaker 1: that the session right there? And he was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is a bounce. I'm like, all right, well where's
Speaker 1: the session? He was like it's upstairs. I'm I'm I'm like, well, bro,
Speaker 1: you can pull up the session. You know, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be patient as possible, like you can pull up
Speaker 1: the session. And then he's like, man, yo, all right,
Speaker 1: damn you know what I'm saying, Like I'm just go
Speaker 1: get it. What I'm saying boom. He walked out of there.
Speaker 1: He mad. So at this point, I'm saying Maria like, man,
Speaker 1: look Mike, that's been my engineer for over twenty some years.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, Maria, I understand this. I respect like
Speaker 1: I respect y'alls. Y'alls you know I'm really talk like
Speaker 1: I understand this. I got damn may. I respect everything
Speaker 1: that's going on in here. I respect every engineer, I
Speaker 1: respect you, I respect everything that's going to respect all
Speaker 1: these producers in here. I respect all that ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I'm dead serious about this production.
Speaker 1: Like just this song that we're doing, this is our
Speaker 1: first time I'm ever working with each other, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I don't want that one song
Speaker 1: that might Will and Mariah did to be whacked out
Speaker 1: of all your whole catalog. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and and not be my fault. And I'm not said
Speaker 1: something in this situation. You know what I'm saying, be
Speaker 1: cause at that point, I'm not gonna be respected like
Speaker 1: these guys that that you know what I'm saying, Like Jimmy, Jim, Terry,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Terry Lewis, Uh, Rodney Jenkins,
Speaker 1: like all these guys in here that have so much
Speaker 1: respect right now, I'm not I'm never gonna be respected
Speaker 1: like that if I just let this slide, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So boom. The engineer end up coming
Speaker 1: back in the room and was like, and you know
Speaker 1: what we did. We did switched the beat. You remember
Speaker 1: when when you were right into it, Maria, we had
Speaker 1: looked it over. I'm like, that's all I was trying
Speaker 1: to say. Bro, That's all I was trying to say.
Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to be difficult and nothing, man like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then at that point
Speaker 1: it was just like the VID was just kind of
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like my bob was. I
Speaker 1: was just draining at that point. I just had ended
Speaker 1: up sliding. Like whatever ended up happening with the song
Speaker 1: happened with the song. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: got the beat right, I got my mixed engineer in
Speaker 1: New York. I know he's gonna mix the beat right. Boom,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And boom, you know I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We finished the song. The song ended up coming out dope,
Speaker 1: and now me and Maria could laugh about this ship
Speaker 1: like you know, what I'm saying, I ran in. The
Speaker 1: reason why I bank know all of this too, I
Speaker 1: don't be out here. I don't be out here like
Speaker 1: just telling studio stories. But the reason why he knows
Speaker 1: about this is because we ran into Maria at Boston
Speaker 1: Nova in l A. And God damn, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Maria, I was like, man, yo, Mike will
Speaker 1: is a true areas and she kind of she kind
Speaker 1: of touched on the situation and we took a picture
Speaker 1: with everything like that. Then we in the car, it
Speaker 1: was like, man, what she was talking about? Broo and
Speaker 1: I had broke broke the situation down to her, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But but um, yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: was I was an experienced man Like I can't say
Speaker 1: I bought them and I can't say she did back.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying on some Aria ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But it wasn't no, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, aggressive ship. What I'm saying, it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just like she probably got a lot more respectful,
Speaker 1: you know. For like musically, if if it goes down again,
Speaker 1: it's gonna have to went for it. And it came
Speaker 1: out you know what I'm saying that she would have
Speaker 1: been like I can't work with him no more. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then I would have been that
Speaker 1: little boy in the room. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that she was trying to escort through there because she
Speaker 1: was you know I'm saying, no, genuinely, she was trying
Speaker 1: to escort me through there and introduced me to like
Speaker 1: Jim Jim terror Lewis like introduced me like as if
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like like and and
Speaker 1: but yeah, and I'm I'm appreciative of that. But it
Speaker 1: was like I was almost like restricted, and I'm like, no, man,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I know I'm younger than all these guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm coming here to like do what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But I want my joint to be God damn, you
Speaker 1: know what. I want to be heavily involved in this ship.
Speaker 1: So then this ship is all the way right. You know.
Speaker 1: It's because it's a certain sound that we're trying to
Speaker 1: come with right now. And and I don't I didn't
Speaker 1: promise to my brothers um Mars p Nasty plus j Bow.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying any track that they worked on
Speaker 1: or I worked on anything with the air drum sign
Speaker 1: if I have anything to do with it, if I'm
Speaker 1: producing the record, Man, I'm pushing this ship to the
Speaker 1: limit and we're gonna have a hit. I'm pushing this
Speaker 1: ship till we have a hit. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: no mediocre ship, no whack ship, get on that ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because I know how hard
Speaker 1: they work on the beats. I know how hard I
Speaker 1: work on the beach, and we can't even sleep if
Speaker 1: the ship ain't right, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: another thing on air drummers, like like it was a
Speaker 1: time like like two thousands. You know I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve, we had three songs on the charts.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We had no live bandsmaker
Speaker 1: dance and turned on the lights. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: At this time, I ain't have no deal, but I
Speaker 1: had Hello songs on mixtapes, Like I had Hello songs
Speaker 1: on mixed tapes, but I had three songs on the charts.
Speaker 1: Every company was calling, like trying to sign me to
Speaker 1: a publishing deal. You know what I'm saying, Like every company.
Speaker 1: My mom was laid off. I had like fitted dollars
Speaker 1: to my name, hunted dollars to my name, something like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Probably five hunted dollars like whatever,
Speaker 1: I whatever. I didn't just made off the last person
Speaker 1: who just bought a beat in the street, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, but I I ain't made no
Speaker 1: money off for like the music industry or anything like that,
Speaker 1: because it was a different time and it's not like
Speaker 1: how it is today, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: back then you had to really grind and get some paper,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So it's like at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, boom, I I ain't made
Speaker 1: no money off the ship. But my boy Pete, my
Speaker 1: boy Mars, my boy A plus my boy j Bo.
Speaker 1: They signed me for free and they believed in the
Speaker 1: vision with ear drummers, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And at this time, like all the young producers, we
Speaker 1: all looking at ourselves like we're the next Doctor Dre
Speaker 1: or were the next this, or were the next that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So we kind of in
Speaker 1: like a like a competition. Damn there it's like a race.
Speaker 1: Like everybody want to say like I did the beat
Speaker 1: by myself or or I did you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and like I was able to got domn come with
Speaker 1: a team where it's like, yo, bro, we can have
Speaker 1: an air production crew like Dr Dre or like how
Speaker 1: P did they had an air production crew or how
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like Little John got
Speaker 1: the air production crew, like shot the Red Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, what are y'all goals? Well,
Speaker 1: these are my goals. We write them all down. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Man, We we got down. We're
Speaker 1: making beach together, we're praying together, were eating together, we're
Speaker 1: going out together. We're doing everything together. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And until we check off these goals, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So at this time where I
Speaker 1: had three times three songs on the charts and they're here,
Speaker 1: Mike well made at the beginning, I'm not forgetting those
Speaker 1: guys who helped me put this together, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I didn't go Hollywood. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I ain't go Hollywood, Like I stayed down
Speaker 1: like all these companies calling, man, we got this much
Speaker 1: money for you, We got that much money for you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. People hearing about this ship,
Speaker 1: they're like, Bro, your mom laid on. Bro, you fucked up. Bro.
Speaker 1: Like man, you're still rinding around and that beat that
Speaker 1: beat up car. Bro. Like man, you got three songs. Bro,
Speaker 1: you take that bad brother. The folk stop calling like Bro.
Speaker 1: I'm going to school at this time at Georgia State.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm learning introduction to the
Speaker 1: music business. You know what I'm saying. So I'm knowing
Speaker 1: like it ain't no way that bad and just disappear
Speaker 1: and vanished. It's gonna be there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just keep working, head down, just keep working.
Speaker 1: I wanted to know nobody managed me. I ain't have
Speaker 1: no manager, you know what I'm saying. I'm just because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be on the nigger armpit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I ain't want to be
Speaker 1: Like I was already in the room back, I was
Speaker 1: seeing you, I was seeing you at the club. Hello. Hello.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like my little dick, just
Speaker 1: like at that right, there's like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like I ain't need to do that because you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, these niggas who are doing these niggas
Speaker 1: who who were going to be doing that, But y'all
Speaker 1: ain't in the rooms that I'm in. I'm in the rooms, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I'm in the rooms. I'm in every studio, I'm
Speaker 1: at every club. I mean, I'm in the young clubs,
Speaker 1: I'm in the strict clubs. I'm in the rooms for real.
Speaker 1: It's like, you can't be I can't be your little
Speaker 1: nigga who just did this. You know I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: can't do that, say that y'all re able to industry
Speaker 1: niggas like the first industry niggas like the first what
Speaker 1: you mean look like even like the st just a
Speaker 1: nigga industry nigga like here industry you'll get say, they
Speaker 1: just look and fit the part of it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: always got got a way to hip you to do this,
Speaker 1: you gotta answer for everything. They always got a connection
Speaker 1: to this label. But don't work at that label. And
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying working a move like that that
Speaker 1: that now I'm saying, like back when when nigga everybody
Speaker 1: the original, Yeah, he might he might. He might see
Speaker 1: him on a picture with God, l A read or something.
Speaker 1: He might know l A. You know he he industrygga
Speaker 1: like niggas might not have no pool. But she, like
Speaker 1: your niggas, might not understand that to the day because
Speaker 1: like if a nigger workers moved good enough today, he
Speaker 1: can bring you a banke wrong, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Back then, it was hard to get that bank, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So like certain niggas would just be in
Speaker 1: this role all the way to the tea, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and then waiting for somebody to catch
Speaker 1: a bus and then got them putting nigga up on
Speaker 1: the their arm pit right quick, and then you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that that's gonna make them that industry
Speaker 1: nigger that we respect, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I wan't going for that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I was representing my team.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna let nobody come in and be like, hey, yo, Mike,
Speaker 1: will you have to go ahead and sign this them
Speaker 1: and the niggas man man don't. Don't worry about them niggas.
Speaker 1: I don't. I ain't need no I ain't need no
Speaker 1: influence from nobody. All I needed was somebody to help
Speaker 1: me come and put my business in order. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's all I needed, and and and
Speaker 1: and I was going to school for introduction to the
Speaker 1: music business, so I already knew. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that the three types of pub deals. I knew
Speaker 1: the co pub, I knew the full pub, I knew
Speaker 1: the ad man. And then I knew about joint ventures.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I have a production company,
Speaker 1: so I need a joint venture. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: These guys have signed me for free, so I need
Speaker 1: a joint venture that I can be able to cut
Speaker 1: a check for. You know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. You know what I'm saying, Because if
Speaker 1: y'all give me this amount of money that y'all talk,
Speaker 1: come on, I'm about to bust this ship off five
Speaker 1: ways and we're gonna be broke tomorrow because we never
Speaker 1: had no money. So we're gonna straight through this. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm trying to get some ship
Speaker 1: where everybody can go out there and get their owners.
Speaker 1: Their own are bad and goddamn, get everything everybody straight
Speaker 1: mentally and we can just go. I'm telling you we're
Speaker 1: gonna attack the charges. We're gonna take over the game.
Speaker 1: And companies were looking at it like a right, it
Speaker 1: sounds good, you know what I'm saying. Such and such
Speaker 1: just said that, man, we this much in the hole.
Speaker 1: We're not doing that. We don't do drunk pictures no more.
Speaker 1: We want to sign you. You're the guy that's hot.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I'm good. Top top person at this
Speaker 1: this company, top person of that company, top person of
Speaker 1: that company. It's like, no, I'm good. These is all facts.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I used to even be nervous,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I got damn. I
Speaker 1: used to wear I used to wear the black shades.
Speaker 1: I used to be nervous. I used to be nervous
Speaker 1: in the meetings, you know what I'm saying. But poker
Speaker 1: face though, because my pops raised me like that, like
Speaker 1: but be ready to walk, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I got down, Hey, I can't do it, and
Speaker 1: I ken't, And I kept doing that ship for like
Speaker 1: six months to a whole year, kept holding out. I
Speaker 1: was fucked up. I met my boy DJ. That's Jimmy
Speaker 1: Alvine nephew Ethiopia. You know what I'm saying. She had
Speaker 1: she had linked us, she had linked us up, and
Speaker 1: Ethiopia was just telling of them like, man, y'all make
Speaker 1: this kid, Mike Will like he got an idea, he
Speaker 1: got a vision, he got something. He just ain't got
Speaker 1: no management. But he got songs on the charts and everything.
Speaker 1: And DJ like hold on, so you you mean to
Speaker 1: tell me this kid who it's from Atlanta? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, got all got these songs on the charts,
Speaker 1: ain't got no management. Like that's bullshit, Like I gotta
Speaker 1: fly down here and see it. Like he's he's got
Speaker 1: to be signed to one of these guys. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like DJ from he from New York.
Speaker 1: But but at this time he was living in at
Speaker 1: l A. You know what I'm saying. So it's Jimmy
Speaker 1: Irvine nephew. So he just fly in. So my boy,
Speaker 1: chubby Baby had already been telling me about DJ prior
Speaker 1: to meeting him. Because Chubby Baby, Paulo and DJ built
Speaker 1: like a whole Ain't like DJ was a very instrumental
Speaker 1: part of Paolo the Don's career and chump Baby will
Speaker 1: be working with Polo to dine, and they built like
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So he had already been telling me
Speaker 1: about you know what I'm saying about DJ. So when
Speaker 1: I meet with DJ, I'm like, hey, look, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: not looking for no management or anything like that. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you for coming down here meeting with me and ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. All I'm looking for is
Speaker 1: is somebody to help me get this in order. I
Speaker 1: need a joint venture with this company. I need you.
Speaker 1: God damn whoa I need that? I need who I'm
Speaker 1: telling what I need? I said, now, if you can
Speaker 1: get that done, then we'll talk about you being my manager.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But other than that, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking for right now. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Boom. He was like, oh yeah, I can
Speaker 1: get that done. So I'm alright, cool, we don't see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Boom. Next thing, you know, different different
Speaker 1: companies is calling Boom my boy, Big John. He telled
Speaker 1: me like he about to leave em I at the time,
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm about to leave em my. Just
Speaker 1: keep holding out. How you holding up? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When I make my next move, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it with you. You know what I'm saying. So Boom,
Speaker 1: I'm telling DJ everything that's needed. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and so boom DJ put it together. Now the conversation
Speaker 1: start changing with these companies, but they still on some
Speaker 1: We're not doing a joint venture. Man, we can do
Speaker 1: it like we can do it differently. We can do
Speaker 1: it like this. No bro, no, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like this, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then next thing, you know, Pete John made this move.
Speaker 1: He did his venture with jay Z Boom come sit
Speaker 1: down with me, and I was like, man, let's do it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Are you wanna do a
Speaker 1: venture or you want to sign your guys? Okay, whatever
Speaker 1: you wanna do, let's do it. And then did it.
Speaker 1: Did everything I held out for, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and God damn Boom. We were straight and then we
Speaker 1: held up to our end of the bargain. We took
Speaker 1: over the trucks and took over the game. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And Nigga stayed down. That's that's the
Speaker 1: definition of not being on the Hollywood ship. So like
Speaker 1: when when when you stay down like that, I don't
Speaker 1: gonna be having to worry about like Nigga's being like,
Speaker 1: oh man, Mike, well you know he'd be Hollywood that
Speaker 1: that just because of who I worked with. You a hater,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Just because you see me
Speaker 1: work with this person, and see me in the room
Speaker 1: with this person. You might have seen me talking to Oprah,
Speaker 1: you might see me around Jim. May not mean or
Speaker 1: you think I'm you think I'm a fun nigger. Jay
Speaker 1: just told you I'm God damn pulling up to you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the projects on all folks everywhere
Speaker 1: and passionately fucking with these people. I'm a real person,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And this is just I'm
Speaker 1: just passionate. You know I'm saying. This is just from
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just just from my heart,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like because man, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know I'm saying, this ship
Speaker 1: is so bigger than the human. That's why I don't
Speaker 1: even That's why I don't even get caught up in
Speaker 1: what a human because you could even say about a nigga.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, like, whatever adjectives or whatever you
Speaker 1: can put on the nigger, cool, believe that, but believe
Speaker 1: it over there, God down, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: keep a distance from you know what I'm saying, word
Speaker 1: and that I feel like if it's more of that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to be more more uprising.
Speaker 1: And then when you move, when you move a person
Speaker 1: to the side like that, y'all a link back up
Speaker 1: when it's time, you know what I'm saying, like and
Speaker 1: then yeah, and then that person might understand you a
Speaker 1: little bit more because what vision is to be able
Speaker 1: to see the unseen. They weren't able to see what
Speaker 1: you were seeing at the time. So when you got down,
Speaker 1: make a proof of concept, when you got THEMN, make
Speaker 1: a make it a real thing, like when you make
Speaker 1: it tangible, when you make it like a real life
Speaker 1: thing that they can respect. Then at that point, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that they're gonna see your vision.
Speaker 1: Now it's like now they know where they can add
Speaker 1: to your vision or where you can add to their vision.
Speaker 1: And then now y'all have a real conversation and do
Speaker 1: some real ship. And it ain't about oh this nigga difficult,
Speaker 1: Oh this nigger Hollywood, or oh anything like that. You
Speaker 1: can't take nothing from a person that's trying to grow.
Speaker 1: Might not even be a hater. They might just be
Speaker 1: misunderstanding your vision from their particular point of view. Exactly.
Speaker 1: That's it, you know what I'm saying. And I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. A lot of the ship that was able
Speaker 1: to get me through a lot of this ship was
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. I read books, man,
Speaker 1: what I don't read books listen to audio books in
Speaker 1: the car, you know what I'm saying. Because I'm in
Speaker 1: the studio listen to music all day, so all their
Speaker 1: books in the car, I'm listening to four agreements. I'm
Speaker 1: listening to the subtle are they're not giving the funk.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to God Damn. You know what I'm saying, Uh,
Speaker 1: the unteller soul. Like I'm just listening to different books,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Then I'm then it's like
Speaker 1: something you might have an argument with a person about
Speaker 1: branding and both of y'all don't even know what the
Speaker 1: funk y'are talking about. Y'all, just y'all just know ideally
Speaker 1: in your head what Brandon means to you. And now
Speaker 1: y'all arguing about this and y'all ain't even talk about
Speaker 1: no facts. But it's like, go read a Brandon book,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Go read the marketing book.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, to understand what it is
Speaker 1: that we're doing, so that we can be able to
Speaker 1: talk the same language, and they'll be it will be
Speaker 1: less arguments and they'll be less this nigga, Now you're
Speaker 1: just reading off my energy off based off of what
Speaker 1: your energy is though, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you you're mad about something, so now you're thinking that
Speaker 1: I'm on some bullshit. Bro. I'm coming in here trying
Speaker 1: to make the best song with you. Bro. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, Boom Producers, if
Speaker 1: you got that running too, that man, stay away from
Speaker 1: the energy. Got damn lock in with lock in with
Speaker 1: the artists that funk with you. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: lock in with the artists that like really funk with
Speaker 1: you to understand your vision and you're gonna create something special.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like it happens every time.
Speaker 1: It never fails. You know what I'm saying. It goes
Speaker 1: all the way back to Quincy Jon and Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: all the way to you know what I'm saying, like today,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, White with Ray Shimmer
Speaker 1: or Mike well sway Lee likes. It always happens, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like just you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, just stay on, Just stay on that
Speaker 1: like for real, and and me, I'm open with working
Speaker 1: with anybody. I ain't. I ain't got nothing against nobody
Speaker 1: I'm working. I'm open to working with anybody. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make a l as song. I'm not chasing no
Speaker 1: money or nothing. I just got passionate with making music,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Just like everybody else, So
Speaker 1: I can never get caught up in none of that ship.
Speaker 1: I don't choose no size on nothing about nothing, you
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, I got my own side. I'm on
Speaker 1: my side. You know what I'm saying. Niggas ain't even
Speaker 1: from card County, So you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: so at the end of the day, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm already from a whole another side
Speaker 1: of town. You know what I'm saying. I'm not choosing
Speaker 1: those side and nothing. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: the personal problems that I have to go through in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. You know what I'm saying. It's just like
Speaker 1: y'all don't even know about that that you don't even
Speaker 1: get to the city and that ship gets you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, That it easily because it's like it's
Speaker 1: so much love and respect from where I come from,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I can't choose no size and nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make the best song with whatever
Speaker 1: artists is trying to go in and make the best
Speaker 1: song too, or whatever artist is out here that I respect,
Speaker 1: that's coming from the soul. I like artists that's coming
Speaker 1: from the soul, like real talk, like that's the artist
Speaker 1: I respect like you know what I'm saying. Big shots
Speaker 1: out to Mike Well for blessing this on big two
Speaker 1: artists I want to work with that I haven't work
Speaker 1: with yet. Man a Deal and Little Baby. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: it ain't got to be the same song, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It ain't gotta be the same song.
Speaker 1: Just I just like how they come from the soul,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I want to work
Speaker 1: with any other artists that come from the soul that
Speaker 1: I ain't work with. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's that's what I respect. You feel me like. But
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know the spectrum. We could do
Speaker 1: a banker with a deal coming from and soul coming
Speaker 1: from the soul. We could do a banker with a
Speaker 1: little baby or that underground cat that ain't never been discovered.
Speaker 1: That's just trying to make that banger shout. I'm ready
Speaker 1: for you too. You know what I'm saying. Shut up
Speaker 1: your drummers, We're ready for you too. We're delivering, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We're back on that hard drives,
Speaker 1: back filled up. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna
Speaker 1: back them up right up, big shouts out to Mike,
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