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Speaker 1: We've got a heck of a panel tonight. I'm Kevin

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Speaker 1: KT Turner from the Ben and Skin Show, Tend to

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Speaker 1: these guys pretty well kind of. We'll start off with

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Speaker 1: the original eighty eight. Drew Pearson is in the high Hey,

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Speaker 1: good to be here, guys. Thanks for having meat to right.

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Speaker 1: Also a drinking and scouting buddy of mine, it is

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Speaker 1: Brian broad So Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Doing one more

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Speaker 1: than the other right now, absolutely, and I will drink

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Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, there you go. Also from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Great to be here. Great to be here, Gret, thanks

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Speaker 1: for hanging out with us again. Rob. And then also

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Speaker 1: It is Jonathan Shippy Shipman huh Man. Finally, I finally

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Speaker 1: get to come out and hang out with you guys.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you guys out of here. Usually we

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Speaker 1: like Shippy in a corner and just make him do

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Speaker 1: what he's told. But he's it's a liability thing. But

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Speaker 1: people don't know. Shippy's got some good Cowboys takes and

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Speaker 1: they will be on display tonight. We're gonna have some fun.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get ready for the Eagles. That's always fun,

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the right control me. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to run through a wall on Wednesday night already.

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Speaker 1: But let's start out by quickly putting the Jets game

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Speaker 1: think about it ever again. I'll start with you, Drew,

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Speaker 1: what it was the most concerning aspect of that game

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Speaker 1: last Sunday against the Jets and that loss. The most

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Speaker 1: concerning thing is they lost the game a game they

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Speaker 1: should have won. In this kind of game, you go

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Speaker 1: up there with a team that's owing four, you give

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Speaker 1: them life early, they get COMPETENTI early. Now you got

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Speaker 1: a game on your hands, and they dominated us in

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Speaker 1: the first half. By the time we woke up. Playing

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Speaker 1: on the East coast there, maybe that was the problem.

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Speaker 1: The wake up call came late, but the time they

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Speaker 1: a little too late. And then we come out in

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Speaker 1: point conversion. And I don't blame that too much on

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Speaker 1: the players. I blame that on the play that was called.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of situation. But they still had a

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Speaker 1: chance to win at the end. They just couldn't pull

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Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, it's tough because if you look at

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Speaker 1: getting down thirty one three to Green Bay and then

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Speaker 1: all all game long. Still had your timeouts at that point.

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Speaker 1: what that play was. And you knew that Greg Williams

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Speaker 1: me clarify, it wasn't so much the play, it was

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Speaker 1: then and then the next play obviously didn't. I think

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Speaker 1: And then, like Rob says, you got you know, you've

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Speaker 1: between the center and guard execution? Next play, what was

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Speaker 1: designed to get to the edge. It never got to

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Speaker 1: But the easy thing to say, as well, it's a

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Speaker 1: let's go play defense, and then we'll just keep we'll

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Speaker 1: It's hearsayer, you know, kick the field goal or go

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Speaker 1: great call. Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. Field goals

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Speaker 1: especially when you're giving your compromised offense. At that point,

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Speaker 1: you've got both tackles that are out of the football game.

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Speaker 1: the decision. But maybe with a compromised offense, maybe let's

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Speaker 1: you have do you as a play caller, do you

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Speaker 1: worry about the condition of your offensive line? Does it

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Speaker 1: affect Does all those first down runs mean that you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll take two yards, I'll take three yards just so

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Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't have to see He says, we can.

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Speaker 1: We can. We could go out there and throw it

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Speaker 1: every snap and lose his football game. He said, we

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Speaker 1: could also run it every snap and lose this football

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Speaker 1: game as well. It's it's his dynamic or what he

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Speaker 1: tries for is that balance? I know again, Joean flower

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Speaker 1: Mound's losing his mind because he says, I'm tired of balance.

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Speaker 1: Throw the ball. They get nine yards on this, they

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Speaker 1: get no yards on this. I get it. But his

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Speaker 1: philosophy is that, you know, hey, I want to have

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Speaker 1: balance if I can, you know. And that's where I

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Speaker 1: think that that you know, the fans have a big

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Speaker 1: yards and not running the ball and getting six yards. It's,

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Speaker 1: you know, like we saw when in twenty sixteen, where

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Speaker 1: every time we looked up it was second and five,

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Speaker 1: it was second and four, it was second in five,

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole time. And now it's you know

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not that it's not that way,

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Speaker 1: but he's also got to think about his offensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Mickey and I got into discussion, a

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Speaker 1: heated discussion about the protection of Dak Prescott. You know,

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Speaker 1: but he also got rocked, and he saw those where

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Speaker 1: he gets rocked. And maybe that's where Kellen Moore is like,

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Speaker 1: I can't have this guy getting rocked passing the ball

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Speaker 1: forty four times in a game. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: one of and I know the numbers aren't there and

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Speaker 1: you didn't get to Lamb, but I thought that was

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Speaker 1: one of Dack's more impressive games. And it may not

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Speaker 1: have been all because it's just because he was punched

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Speaker 1: it every time, and I'm ready to sling it down

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Speaker 1: the field. Well, and then I don't know. That game

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia last year was get punched in the mouth game.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way it is with the Eagles. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna play in these games where it's tight, it's tough,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, I mean, you know this guy right

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Speaker 1: Tim Rossovich and Bill Burgie at the linebacker. Yeah, Bill

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Speaker 1: Burgie at linebacker. I was something. You know, those kind

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Speaker 1: of guys will or problems and so it's a tough place.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a tough team to play.

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Speaker 1: The defensive, Like Shippy said, they're having problems in their secondary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they are. They don't tackle well, they don't cover well.

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Speaker 1: But can you hold up well enough up front to

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Speaker 1: be able to work routes against against that secondary. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so next segment, I really want to hear Drew talk

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Speaker 1: about the Eagles a little bit, just history of playing them,

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Speaker 1: the history of getting under that city's skin, and also

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Speaker 1: their head coach kind of being bold this week saying

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Speaker 1: they're gonna come down and get a win. Let's dive

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Speaker 1: into that just a little bit. That's next on the

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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to this segment and the panel

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Speaker 1: that is It's Drew Pearson, Brian broad Us, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Shipman, and I'm Kat. Don't worry about me. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to this because we do have the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and I would I would assume Drew or I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: that's probably your favorite opponent to play against, or or

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the games that you'd get most hyped

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Speaker 1: up for would be the games. Oh yeah, definitely one

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Speaker 1: of the most easiest to get up for, There's no

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Speaker 1: question about that. But I'm from New Jersey, so any

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Speaker 1: team on the East Coast with my deal, okay, the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, and the Redskins, and I always had family

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Speaker 1: coming down for those games and a good turn out

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Speaker 1: with that. But those games are you know, the East

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Speaker 1: the Division games, Uh, every time. You know, we had

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Speaker 1: dominance on the Eagles early in my career. Uh, Maryan Campbell,

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Speaker 1: no way, he was gonna beat Tom Land and we

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Speaker 1: weren't gonna let him beat us. Katie, Yeah remember him,

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Speaker 1: no way. Yeah, they got good when Dick Vermill Vermill

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Speaker 1: same guys and tourn them into winners, much like with

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Speaker 1: George Allen initially with the Redskins and Joe Gibbs comes in,

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Speaker 1: takes the same guys and makes them contender. But those

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Speaker 1: games were easy to get up for. You get up

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Speaker 1: for every game, there's no question about that. But it's

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Speaker 1: just naturally get up for the easy the ponents. A

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Speaker 1: lot of times, the defensive backs or the secondary you

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Speaker 1: played against, it's the same secondary you've been playing against

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Speaker 1: for four or five, six years. Same guys out there.

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Speaker 1: They knew you, you knew them, and so you would

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Speaker 1: try to throw in some little wrinkles here and there

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Speaker 1: based on the formations they're seeing and run something different

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Speaker 1: off those formations. But it was always a knocked down,

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Speaker 1: drag out type of game. But I think during the

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Speaker 1: regular season with the Eagles, my record was sixteen and five.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just saying Pete Lusk wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: beat Roger matchup. There's a tough matchup for peat Lusk. Now,

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Speaker 1: did you say during the break that you play that

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Speaker 1: you'll used to play six preseason games. Yeah, initially when

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Speaker 1: I came in the league, or six we call them

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Speaker 1: exhibition games. I saw that in the paper today. I said, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're going back to exhibition because that's all they are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're no preseason nothing. If you look at the injury

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Speaker 1: report of both the Cowboys and we know about them

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Speaker 1: are and maybe Cobb and Lyle and Tyr. And we

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Speaker 1: know about the injury report with the Cowboys. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: dealing with it too. And by the way, most of

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Speaker 1: the NFL, like every team in the league is using

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Speaker 1: backup guys and third string guys and just filling gaps

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Speaker 1: because in Week seven already these rosters are falling apart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we now are in a league where teams don't

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the big name players don't

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Speaker 1: even play in the preseason anymore. And they have four

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Speaker 1: games and it's some teams have five, I guess, but

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Speaker 1: four preess again, But it's just they're not playing very

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Speaker 1: much in training camp. Is less physical, can't tackle? Does

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Speaker 1: that have anything to do with guys getting hurt or

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Speaker 1: is it just that the game's gotten And I think

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Speaker 1: you got in getting in physical contact conditions just like

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Speaker 1: any other condition you get it need to be in

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Speaker 1: to play NFL football. I mean, it just goes that way.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody's worrying about the epidemic with the referees

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Speaker 1: and the calls and all that, the real epidemic in

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Speaker 1: the NFL is the injuries. Look at the injuries situation

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Speaker 1: for every team. You whole Ben Rothsack Burger out the

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Speaker 1: whole preseason, then he gets hurt. Drew Brees the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Running backs don't get hit. I'm surprised. Zeke god Blessed

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Speaker 1: don't even talk about never mind never mind. But you know,

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Speaker 1: for these guys to do go what they go through

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Speaker 1: in training camp and then get trying to get ready

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Speaker 1: for the season without hitting, and then I admire them

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Speaker 1: for stepping between the lines of an NFL playing field

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Speaker 1: and taking on hits that they're not really prepared to

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Speaker 1: take on. And you see these collisions nowadays, they're a

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Speaker 1: lot greater and impact more impactful than when we played

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Speaker 1: Everything's relevant. It would seem like they were the greatest

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Speaker 1: hits in the world back then, but now you see this.

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Speaker 1: These are real collisions out there, and so the guys

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Speaker 1: have to be in shape for that. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the real epidemic in the NFL, the amount of injuries

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Speaker 1: that each team has to deal with. How do you

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Speaker 1: deal with that? You gotta expand the roster some kind

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Speaker 1: of way so that you have players that can go

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Speaker 1: through practice, and you gotta have some contact and training

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Speaker 1: camp and I know to collective bargain agreement restricts all that,

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Speaker 1: and the owners are willing to give that up to

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Speaker 1: the players. Yeah you don't want to practice, fine, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know it's still got to play the games. Shippy

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Speaker 1: and I do a fantasy football podcast for one oh

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Speaker 1: five through the Fan, and we are every week when

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Speaker 1: we start that up, we just go, Okay, who got

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Speaker 1: to hurt this week? Uh? What quarterback is gonna be starting?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about these teams? It's usually a long,

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Speaker 1: long list, so it's clear, like like you're bringing up

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Speaker 1: the officiating all this is a big issue, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of these rosters are super compromised. Like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: already when we're going to week seven, right, you still

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Speaker 1: got nine more games to play. So it's I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I obviously have no professional experience with this.

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Speaker 1: I have your word to take for it. If if

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Speaker 1: the preseason games and really taking those hits in the

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Speaker 1: preseason actually is a help to being able to sustain

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Speaker 1: and make it through an entire NFL season, that I

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Speaker 1: think that's something that whether the players like it or not,

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Speaker 1: the NFL shill really look at. I think I think

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Speaker 1: that personnel. Guys around the league would lose their minds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's hard enough watching the games, those preseason games, and

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Speaker 1: if you have one of Drew Pearson runs a dig

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Speaker 1: and he gets blasted by a backup safety, you know

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Speaker 1: for the Houston that I know, I'm praying that I'm

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Speaker 1: ready for you. I know you can't avoid the contact. No,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be there, but that but the best way

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Speaker 1: to deal with it to be in shape physically to

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Speaker 1: deal with I totally agree with you. The problem is

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Speaker 1: I can't place him when he's when he's laying on

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Speaker 1: the ground. When when he say, he'd say, and I

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Speaker 1: go in that first game in a season, I get

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Speaker 1: blasted because I haven't been hit and I'm hurt anyway,

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Speaker 1: I would rather lose Week one than some preseason game.

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Speaker 1: That's my biggest problem. I sat there for years and

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Speaker 1: watched preseason football, and every time go get up, get up,

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Speaker 1: get up. Yeah, but if you've played to get hurt,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get hurt. Oh, no play. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: avoid getting my guys hurt. But I totally get what

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Speaker 1: he's saying, because you know, for twenty years I've watched

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Speaker 1: seventy two to nineteen ninety two, we had season tickets

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Speaker 1: and I saw the toughness of him and Golden Richards

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Speaker 1: he's He's right, it's the same team every year. Preston

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Speaker 1: Pearson was a gift from the football gods that they

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Speaker 1: let him go. John Dutton another one that you know,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a full time job like it is now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, guys had other jobs, They had other lives

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Speaker 1: that they had to go do. So now and I'm wondering, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we got guys that are here in this facility to

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Speaker 1: You know where Drew, he had to go out, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe had to sell cars, maybe had to sell insurance,

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Speaker 1: maybe had to hustle, hustle some beer sales or something

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Speaker 1: like that. But it was a different game. It was

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Speaker 1: a completely different game. Well, we didn't do that during

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Speaker 1: the season. We did every off seas. I worked every

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Speaker 1: off season. I played anything she had. I'm saying, no,

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Speaker 1: they try to prepare for life, but we did. You know,

643
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: we still trained in the off seasons. We were first. Yeah,

644
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: Landry was the first in the NFL to do to

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Speaker 1: mini camps. That was in seventy three when I was drafted.

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Speaker 1: I remember coming down after leaving Tulson, coming down here

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Speaker 1: every month for mini camps. But you know, I just

648
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: think you got to be in condition to get hit.

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00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: If you're afraid of injuries, injuries gonna happen, I'm a coward.

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Speaker 1: Then Rob, where are you at kind of on this game?

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Speaker 1: If if the injuries that we think, and we'll see

652
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Speaker 1: where we're at with Tyrann and Lyle because that's important.

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Speaker 1: Where are you add on this game Sunday night? I think,

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Speaker 1: like we talked about Amar earlier, I think he's in

655
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Speaker 1: a position where he's got a bunch of different stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean it started with the heel back in camp.

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Speaker 1: He probably needs a week and you gotta buy, and

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Speaker 1: you gotta buy, But the problem is you gotta win

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Speaker 1: this game, you know. But I don't know. If we'll

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Speaker 1: see how the week goes on, Maybe a randold cop

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Speaker 1: get back into practice. It may look like the majority

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Speaker 1: of these guys that have been out aren't gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to go in this game. We'll find out. But

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Speaker 1: it's tough because this is it hit it a bad

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Speaker 1: time because it's multiple guys at multiple positions. That's the issue.

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Speaker 1: This game is gonna be happy to be on the

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Speaker 1: back of Dak Prescott and this defense. They have got

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Speaker 1: to find a way to harass, harass Carson Wentz. Not

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Speaker 1: allow these receivers to get going in the game, zach Ur.

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Speaker 1: You can't have him having a big game. You can't

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Speaker 1: have him making fourteen catches like you did one time.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got to be on the screws playing defensively.

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Speaker 1: But they they're not going to have all these players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just get ready for it. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: robs right. I mean, it's just it's unfortunate the way

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Speaker 1: this thing is fallen. But they they are going to

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Speaker 1: have to once again play with backup guys. And those

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Speaker 1: backup guys, whether it's Devin Smith, Cedric Wilson, step up,

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Speaker 1: George Jordan, Jordan Lewis, and Jordan Lewis. I mean, you know, no,

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Speaker 1: it's I'm saying though, but these you know, tank lords.

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Speaker 1: Those guys have got to They've got to go make

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Speaker 1: some plays in this game. That's something they haven't done

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Speaker 1: the last three weeks. They have not made enough plays

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Speaker 1: in order for them to be success in the game.

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Speaker 1: Short field position, making fuel goals did Minnesota due to

686
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: great game? They lit the well. It would be nice

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Speaker 1: if you had like digs that resist ever and another

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Speaker 1: guy a number nineteen, then that runs routes for them.

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Speaker 1: Feeling that would help in this game. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If you had the full compliment of players that could

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Speaker 1: be trouble. It could be trouble for Philadelphia. They they

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Speaker 1: have to be worried now they're they're they're they they

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Speaker 1: have to be a little bit relieved that maybe that

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna see offensive tackles in this game. So

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Speaker 1: how's the protection? How? How did you know when when

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Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz looks at the tape of the Jets game,

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Speaker 1: he's like, oh, that's what Greg Williams did. Yeah, is

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Speaker 1: this is this game if they don't have Amara Cooper back?

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Speaker 1: Is this a game where maybe we'll see the re

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Speaker 1: emergence of a guy like Blake Jarwin, where they try

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Speaker 1: to get him into the game and use his down

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Speaker 1: the field, you know, at the tight end position, that

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Speaker 1: explosive Malcolm Jenkinszo can cover kind of as that. You know,

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Speaker 1: Hey and he and Wittn have had some epic battles

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Speaker 1: against each a. But tight end's going to have to

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Speaker 1: get involved. If they can't get the ball out, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna need to get it quick. But they're gonna need

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Speaker 1: to kind of make it a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: controlled game with that way. I mean, I still think

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Speaker 1: they are going to take some shots though, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna make Sydney Jones and those guys have to

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Speaker 1: cover in this game. Can we get Pollard out there?

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Speaker 1: That's where I was going at that asked that question.

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Speaker 1: That's my guy. Seven snaps in the last game, and

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Speaker 1: we really haven't seen him in a big role since

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Speaker 1: the Miami game, and that's when they had a big lead.

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Speaker 1: He was just kind of spelling Zeke here. He was

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Speaker 1: ran a lot of receiver routes in college. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if they could get him more involved that way. That's

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Speaker 1: a great point. And then Drew made a great point

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Speaker 1: earlier about keep on that two point version of keeping

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Speaker 1: Zeke in the box. If you can get Pollard into

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Speaker 1: the game with Zeke at the same time, the split

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Speaker 1: Pollard out, help because it's awesome at past protection. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: make him cover him. I mean, like why not, you know,

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Speaker 1: like whichaw and right Swart. Yeah, one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: players or moments of training camp this year. I was

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Speaker 1: only out there for two weeks, but as competition drill

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Speaker 1: and they split out Pollard and Jalen Smith and it's

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Speaker 1: one on one and he just used to it was ober. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just torched him. And at the time, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jay, it's great, but Jane's gonna cover Pollard here,

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Speaker 1: and let's make that. Make the Eagles work a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I never want to talk about their cornerbacks, but

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Speaker 1: make everyone, you know, play complimentary defense for that there end.

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Speaker 1: Watch Miles Sanders doing the same thing year point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a very good point. Um. I've got a question

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Speaker 1: about something that has been a bit of an achilles

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Speaker 1: hill for the Cowboys, and I will bring that up next.

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Speaker 1: It's the Cowboys Happy Hour Cowboys Club on one oh

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Speaker 1: five three the Fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Happy Hour broadcasting live from the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Club at the Star in Frisco. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: good sir. I'm Kevin Katie Turner. The Happy Hour brought

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Speaker 1: to you by s WBC Mortgage. Shout out to the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage. Great people over there for making the

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour happen. I am Kevin Turner with Jonathan Shipman,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Marian brought us and Drew Pearson in the house. Drew,

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Speaker 1: So here's what I did a radio call with the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia this morning. Yeah. Yeah, they some reason they like me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they like me. That's weird. It's

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Speaker 1: better when I worked there they hated me. Yeah no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's look it's a bad station. Yeah. U. So, but

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Speaker 1: here's what they're they're kind of thinking if they win

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Speaker 1: this game that the Cowboys are buried because of the schedule.

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Speaker 1: You look the Eagle schedule at the end of the year,

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00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: it looks good. Now, Cowboys schedule is pretty tough, one

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Speaker 1: of the toughest in the league, if not the toughest

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Speaker 1: from here on out. But I know from from a

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Speaker 1: player perspective, Drew. Players just look at games one game

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Speaker 1: at a time. They focus on the next opponent, they

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Speaker 1: don't get caught up. And well, we do have the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins later in the year, and we're gonna have the

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00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: Redskins and they'll get caught up in that stuff. But

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Speaker 1: what it's uh, what what are your thoughts on all

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Speaker 1: of that? Just the strength of schedule and what's left

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Speaker 1: in the in the season. No, it's the NFL. Every

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Speaker 1: game is uh. You you're playing against professionals, so you

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Speaker 1: got to get up or no matter who the opponent is.

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Speaker 1: So no, you never look ahead. You take on who's

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Speaker 1: who's up next. And you know, if you're worrying about

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Speaker 1: say the Latey or Minnesota later in the season, and

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Speaker 1: you know they might have a couple of injuries along

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Speaker 1: the way before they even play you quarterback. Anything can happen,

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Speaker 1: So you just take care of your business and don't

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Speaker 1: worry about anybody else. And coach Landry always used to

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Speaker 1: preach us to one game at a time, and it's

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00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: like something that I'm sure you heard all your life

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Speaker 1: associated with football, and it's true. You can't look ahead

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Speaker 1: if you look ahead. If these Cowboys look ahead of

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Speaker 1: the Jets, maybe is that what happened to them in

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Speaker 1: the Meadowlands or where they come in there at the

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Speaker 1: medal lands. Basically, yeah, so basically, so is that what

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00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: happened to them? You don't know, but you can't look

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00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: ahead because if you do, then look, that's what happens

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Speaker 1: to you, Like what's happened to the Jets? That oh

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00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: and four team could beat you? Even though you might

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Speaker 1: have checked that game off as a win. You know,

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Speaker 1: we do look at the schedule. We do. Yeah, you know,

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00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: we will still want to make the playoffs. But you

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Speaker 1: might have checked that one off as a win based

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Speaker 1: on their season last year or whatever. There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a game that they win that they shouldn't win, and

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00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a game they lost, like the Jets game.

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Speaker 1: There will be some type of tradeoff. There'll be there'll

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Speaker 1: be that trip to Seattle a couple of years ago

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00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: where you're like, or the trip to hines Field or

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00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: the trip to Lambo in sixteen where you're like, there's

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Speaker 1: no way they beat Pittsburgh at home late in the year.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's a playoff. Now there's gonna be a game that

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Speaker 1: they win, and it might be in Chicago. They may

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00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: might be the deal where all of a sudden. You're

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Speaker 1: sitting there, you're thinking, when you looked at the schedule

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Speaker 1: in April, you go a Chicago December could be five below.

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00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah you know that. You know those are all the

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Speaker 1: things you think about. But but there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: game that they win to make up for the game

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Speaker 1: they lost against the Jets or or the Saints. I

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Speaker 1: put the Saints in that boat too, because you know,

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Speaker 1: if Drew Brees is healthy, they go to the Superdome.

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Speaker 1: I've bet a lot of people thought they're probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna win that game, right they I know they didn't

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Speaker 1: move the ball or score offensively. They had chances in

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Speaker 1: that game. That's one when you look back at the end,

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Speaker 1: they might keep themselves flat. I'm glad you went there.

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Speaker 1: I'm want to go to Shippy here and then and

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Speaker 1: then back to you Rob and then everyone just way in.

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Speaker 1: So you look at the Cowboys, Gar I'm going to

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Speaker 1: simplify things, but you look at the three wins. You

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Speaker 1: played Eli Manning, you played case Keenum, and you played

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, three guys who don't run. Then your losses.

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Speaker 1: I love tedder Bridgewater. They lost in that game, but

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Speaker 1: but they've struggled against guys Donald Rogers, guys you were

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Speaker 1: able to Rosen was a static gabut guys are able

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Speaker 1: to extend plays. Carson Wentz is one of those animals.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the Rodgers and of the kind of

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Speaker 1: Darnald mode of guys who can extend plays. Is that

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Speaker 1: a problem that we've seen for an extended amount of

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Speaker 1: time with the Cowboys in this defense. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it kind of has been an issue where they've struggled

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Speaker 1: with the mobility of these different quarterbacks that they've faced.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, obviously it's Russell Wilson. He's putting

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Speaker 1: together an amazing season this year, but that guy has

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Speaker 1: given them fits every single time that they've you know

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Speaker 1: that they've that they've faced each other. I feel like

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Speaker 1: one key component to the defense last year that I

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Speaker 1: feel like has maybe fallen off a little bit that

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Speaker 1: helped out with that issue that they struggled with was

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. I felt like kind of played that role

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Speaker 1: at times where, hey, if it's a third and long

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Speaker 1: and you know they're passing on third and nine, Jalen

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Speaker 1: Smith would kind of play this quarterback spy where he's

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Speaker 1: just going sideline to sideline following the quarterback, and he

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Speaker 1: was getting to the He was getting to the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you know, really quickly last season, and that was eliminating

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Speaker 1: some of those big runs. I don't feel like I've

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Speaker 1: seen those issues as much this year, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like this this cowboy's defense in the scheme, and that's

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Speaker 1: something that it struggled with throughout its tenure. Kat's right,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donold's not a scrambler, but he did. He's deceptive

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Speaker 1: and that he could buy it just an extra tick

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Speaker 1: for second, then maybe those other quarterbacks up. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was the biggest thing, you know, aside

854
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Speaker 1: for how the thing started in Green Bay. But they

855
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Speaker 1: did a pretty good job stopping green Bay through the

856
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Speaker 1: air for the most part. In the second half of

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Speaker 1: that game. The running game is what killed the running game,

858
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: killing Buddy, but Rogers extending plays. The Packers came out

859
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Speaker 1: throwing it right, and Rogers they just couldn't finish the

860
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: play well. And they were getting pressure. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: Quinnon and DeMarcus Lawrence are in the top ten and

862
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Speaker 1: guys getting double teamed. Who's that third guy on the

863
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Speaker 1: defensive line, who's gonna step up? Because I know Tank

864
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Speaker 1: isn't finishing plays and the sack numbers aren't there, but

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Speaker 1: Tanks getting double teamed. Yeah, Robert Quinn's getting double team

866
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Speaker 1: and he's getting to the quarterback. Who else is there?

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Speaker 1: That's what we thought about Malie Collins coming out of

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Speaker 1: camp that we saw the thirty practices that we watched

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Speaker 1: in Oxnard were that we saw him going against Zack

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Speaker 1: Martin and having some success. And you're thinking, well, man,

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Speaker 1: if he's beaten Zack Martin, he could surely beat any

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Speaker 1: guard that's you know, playing in the National Football Aready Game.

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Speaker 1: You know, but that's you know this week. I mean

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Speaker 1: when you talk about quarterbacks and Carson Wentz, Carson Wentz

875
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: could look either really good or look really bad. His

876
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: accuracy comes and goes as the game go. I mean

877
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Speaker 1: there's times where you're thinking, like, ah, he's getting hot,

878
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Speaker 1: but you watch de Traite play him. You know he's

879
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Speaker 1: capable of throwing two interceptions. Again, you just got to

880
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: be ready for it. And then they have an issue

881
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: with their tackle with Peters, you know, not practice. They

882
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Speaker 1: think that Dillard, the tackle from you from Washington State,

883
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: is going to be the starter, and when he got

884
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Speaker 1: in the Minnesota game, they've wore him out. Now again

885
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: last week they should have wore out the Jets. They

886
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to do it there and they didn't

887
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Speaker 1: do it. So we'll see what happened. So, but I

888
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Speaker 1: just think that to me, Carson Winch, Yeah, you move around,

889
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: he's hard to kind of get on the ground. But

890
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Speaker 1: they've had some success. They've had some success playing against him,

891
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Speaker 1: and I think they have to be ready for that

892
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: potential turnal. You can't let a ball hit you right

893
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: in the hand and drop it. You know, you've got

894
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Speaker 1: to make if he's gonna throw you one or he's

895
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Speaker 1: gonna fumble one in the pocket, you have got to

896
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Speaker 1: be right there to make sure that you get on

897
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Speaker 1: that ball. So, Drew, while we have you here, we

898
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Speaker 1: got a few minutes left. But can we relive the hell? Mary?

899
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Speaker 1: I just need to Mary? So, So what was it

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Speaker 1: like in the huddle? You know what what happened? He

901
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: should walk us through the hell? Mary? Well, first of all,

902
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: you know we're playing the Vikings there that were the

903
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: best team in the conference. Wei to walk our team

904
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Speaker 1: and they had been to the previous Super Bowl that

905
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: they said this team was better. No one gave us

906
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: a chance, uh to go up there, But we decided

907
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Speaker 1: to go up there anyway and play the game just

908
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: in case something happened, because the way the ball shape,

909
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, when you hit the ground, it goes in

910
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: eye maybe go our way to right. But anyway, no

911
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: one gave us a chance to knockdown. Drag out game

912
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: the first half. We had the lead at halftime ten

913
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Speaker 1: to seven. They scored late in the fourth quarter made

914
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Speaker 1: it fourteen to ten. Uh, we messed around, couldn't get

915
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: nothing going. Late in game, we stopped them. They punt

916
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Speaker 1: to us. Now we got it. We're on a nine

917
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Speaker 1: yard line and we got to drive for a touchdown

918
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Speaker 1: against a very veteran. Nothing but ain't a rookie in

919
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Speaker 1: sight on that Minnesota defense. Okay, nothing, but veterans knew

920
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys very well. And so now we got to

921
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Speaker 1: operate against this type of defense. One thing Minnesota did

922
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Speaker 1: because they're too smart, because they are veterans and they

923
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Speaker 1: play a prevent defense. But if you come in their territory,

924
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: they pick you up. Man. So they kind of area

925
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: type prevent and so we recognize that. We tried to

926
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Speaker 1: make most of the counter routes on Nate right side

927
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Speaker 1: because he played you man. Bobby Bryant on the other

928
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Speaker 1: side was more of a cluer. You can run zig zag.

929
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Speaker 1: He ain't looking at you, he's looking through you to

930
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. So we got bogged down with a fourth

931
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Speaker 1: and seventeen right, and we didn't have time to get

932
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Speaker 1: plays sent in from coach Landry. Coach Landry for pair

933
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Speaker 1: of us to handle these kinds of such puss. He

934
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Speaker 1: got Roger starbucking up. You're good, we're good. So Roger

935
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Speaker 1: would say, Drew what you got, and then he would

936
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Speaker 1: tell me what the run. And the thing about that,

937
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Speaker 1: no one in the huddle complained, Billy Joe is not

938
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Speaker 1: saying what about me or or who's over here Golden

939
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Speaker 1: Richards right about me? Or new House or Preston. Everybody

940
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Speaker 1: understood that because at that point I had already caught

941
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Speaker 1: two games a clutch passes the Thanksgiving Day game and

942
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Speaker 1: seventy four and the playoffs against the Rams my rookie

943
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: year caught eighty three yard or to blow that game up.

944
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Speaker 1: But so he had confidence in me. Fourth and seventeen.

945
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Speaker 1: You guys know, come on, then ain't gonna happen but anyway,

946
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Speaker 1: he told me to run a post corner on Nate right,

947
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Speaker 1: and again Nate's playing me like man. He bit on

948
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Speaker 1: the post instead of just dropping back and holding off.

949
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Speaker 1: He bit on the post and I broke it to

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Speaker 1: the corner, caught it for twenty two yards in the

951
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Speaker 1: first down on a fifty yard line, thirty two seconds left,

952
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Speaker 1: no time mouts. We threw a swing pass to Preston Pearson.

953
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Speaker 1: He drops it. Get back in the huddle. Roger says,

954
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Speaker 1: let's take some shots in the end zone. He said,

955
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Speaker 1: run a turn in takeoff again, this time on Nate right. Again.

956
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Speaker 1: I come off the line and close that gap, and

957
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: again he bit on that turning. Couldn't believe felt his

958
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Speaker 1: breath on my neck. And then I decided to take

959
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Speaker 1: it deep and he spun out of it pretty good,

960
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Speaker 1: and we were neck and neck. Only other guy he

961
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Speaker 1: told to go out on the play was Golden Richards.

962
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Speaker 1: The whole Paul Krause to that side. I ask her

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Speaker 1: where Paul Kross was. I had to run a post

964
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Speaker 1: padd and to hold him and then and throwing it back.

965
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Speaker 1: That's what made it a underthrow. And I came back

966
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Speaker 1: and saw that was able to make the catch and

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Speaker 1: that was a thing where it's Drew brought us Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillipson Johns another addition of the Cowboys Happy Hour brought

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