1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: We are here today with another episode of Battery Happy Hour. 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: This is a special episode. We have three segments we 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: are going to be doing Segment one, Hot Takes. We're 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: gonna read out all the Bachelor hot takes, Segment two, 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Who's Who, Segment three spicy Questions. Neither Serena and I 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: have gone through any of these, so it's gonna be 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: brand new to us too. That's the way we like 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: do things. Keep it fun, keep it fresh, keep it alive. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Love that Yes, great, great start, great energy. 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Anything you want to get off 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: your chest before we get started. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: No, I'm ready. Let's dive into it. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I have to get a haircut today. 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: I know it's still on the top of my mind. 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: I know I never get out. 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: Why you asked me what I have coming up so 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: that you can talk about your haircut? 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. It's a four thirty PM haircut 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: and usually I get my haircuts at nine or ten am, 22 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: so it's throwing me way off and anxiety is really 23 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: ramped up. Now. 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: Guys, if you're wondering what Jo thinking about this whole podcast. 25 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: It's just his upcoming. 26 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Haircut segment one Hot Takes. The best Bachelor season to 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: date is Juan Pablos. 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: Are we saying if we agree or disagree? 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, do we agree or disagree? 30 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: I disagree. 31 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: I've never watched Wan Pablo season, so I disagree too. 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: I did watch Wompolo season. Now. It's been a few 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: years since this season, so I wouldn't say my memory 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: of it is fantastic. But I think what people love 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: about wanm Pablo season is it's one of the only 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: or not the only. But I would say it was 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: the first Bachelor season where they made the lead the villain. 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: They said, at this guy, we don't like him, and 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna let everyone else hate him too, And that 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: was like a fun twist for sure. And there was 41 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: a lot of like iconic moments and a lot of 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: people that came from that season. But to me, it 43 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: doesn't stand out. Maybe that's just because it's been so 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: long since I watched it, but I don't think I 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: would name it one of the best. 46 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: What would you what would be yours? 47 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: My best season? 48 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? Quick? We got a lot of these, you know, what. 49 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Like, maybe this is a hot take, but like Clayton season, 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: me too. 51 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no better Batchel than Clayton. 52 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: Like, there's so many new iconic moments came out of 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 2: that season, so many unpredictable things. He made, so many 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: really controversial choices. I mean, Susie, Gabby, and Rachel his 55 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: top three were all incredible in their own right and 56 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: have like really amazing moments from that season. 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Here. Bottom line is. Bottom line is you can think 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: what you want about Clayton. He's it was never boring 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: and that's that's just so that's really important. Okay, Barb 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: was right all along about Peter and Madison. Well, well 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: I think that's not really a hot take because I 62 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: think that's factual. 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: Like we have evidence to prove that that take is correct. 64 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: It's not really an opinion, it's a fact. 65 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't I've met Madison prohe at once. She 66 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: was super sweet, nice. I'm friends with Pete, So I 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: don't know Madison enough to know if that would have 68 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: ever made sense, but knowing the content she puts out, 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, actually I can't. 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Even believe you're debating this. 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've. 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: Never met Maddie Prue. I have met Peter a bunch 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: of times. From what I know about Maddie and what 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: I know about Peter, those are two of the most 75 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: incompatible people I could think of in my entire life. 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: And maybe Barb's delivery of that information was very controversial 77 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: and could have been done differently. Sure, but if her 78 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: statement being that like this is not going to work out, 79 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: I don't even know why we're entertaining it is the 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: statement we're debating. One hundred percent, she was right, and 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: I am back in her on that. 82 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a hot take. 83 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if I would consider that a 84 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: hot take. 85 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Rachel Rekia should have had her own Bachelorette season. 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree or disagree with that. 87 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: I I I don't because I just feel like like 88 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: I do. I think Rachel could have one hundred percent 89 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: had a season on her own. 90 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, she could have done it and would 91 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: have been successful. She would have been a great lead 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: on her own. She didn't need another person. But I 93 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: think part of what makes Rachel and Gabby so interesting 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: and exciting from a TV perspective is the fact that 95 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: they were Bacherettes together and that was the first and 96 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: only time they've ever did that, and I think that 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: adds to the lure and their story today. 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was how they navigated it. Yeah, I agree. 99 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: But do I think she like could have done her 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: own season and still could do her own season and 101 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: absolutely crush it? Yes? I do. 102 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: I think if we look I think if if if 103 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: you're able to go back in time, if Rachel was 104 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: able to go back in time and they gave her 105 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: the option, do you do you want to do this again? 106 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: Do you want to do this with Gabby? Or do 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: you want to do it yourself? I would tell her, 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: probably to do it herself. 109 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, do it yourself, do yourself. 110 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: I think that coming off of Clayton season, she could 112 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: have carried her own season. But I think that her 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: and Gabby together was a really exciting package. Do you 114 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: think today, after doing all of the seasons she's done, 115 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: she could be a good lead still. 116 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: I think if she couldn't, then there's something then then 117 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with her. 118 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean she's already done it, so she 119 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: couldn't do it again. 120 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: She's done it, She's done the show. 121 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: She's donels she did yeah, too hot to handle. 122 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, she could definitely do it. 123 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: I mean she's one of the more experienced reality television 124 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: people in this franchise at this point. 125 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Nick Vayelle should have never been allowed to 126 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: join Caitlin's season mid Way. No, I disagree with that. 127 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I think he should have because we're people still talk 128 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: about that, like within the Bachelor Nation verse. That's like 129 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: people still talk about it. 130 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, do I think if we're going like 131 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: by the book, should he have been allowed? Probably not. 132 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: I mean, like he'd kind of been talking to her 133 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: before and he jumped in midway. But I don't care. 134 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm okay that they did it, and I have no 135 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: problem with it, and I would tell them to do 136 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: it again if they had the chance. 137 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: The truth is, when this franchise goes by the Bachelor 138 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: playbook of like how everything supposed to go in a 139 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: perfect world, and they do that like season after season, 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: that's when people usually fall off and it gets somewhat boring. 141 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, this show is fun and exciting when either production 142 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: or the lead or a castmate is willing to bend 143 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: the rules to shake things up, and that doesn't always 144 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: pay off in a big way. But when it does, 145 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: it really does. 146 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, group dates should be four to five people, Max, 147 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I disagree? 148 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: You agree? 149 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Really why I don't like watching a lot of 150 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: people on my TV. 151 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: You've never been on a group date though, I've. 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: Never been on a group day. That's true, But I'm 153 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: just saying, like, it's just sometimes it's just too many. 154 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: It's like that show Squid Gain and there's all those competitions. Yeah, 155 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: like I can't watch it's just eight hundred contestants. 156 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: I get that, And especially in the beginning, you're like, 157 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know who I should focus my attention 158 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: on because there's twelve people on this date. But if 159 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: you reduce it to four to five people, there's going 160 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: to be a lot of people every week in the 161 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: beginning that don't get dates because the lead's not going 162 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: to have time to go on six different dates. 163 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and there's a lot of people that are 164 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: on group dates at the beginning that I'm like, this 165 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: person's just it's a waste of time because it leads 166 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: not even into them. 167 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 168 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, fantasy suites should happen way earlier so they can 169 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: have those off camera conversations earlier on to see if 170 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: they are a good match. 171 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: Disagree, Yeah, no, way, no, no. Well, also, like this 172 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: is a TV show, Like you don't get off camera 173 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: privileges until you've made it almost all the way to 174 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: the end where it's like, all right, it's necessary for 175 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: the potential success of a relationship and for these two 176 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: people to be willing to get engaged. But we're not 177 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: giving off camera time until it's absolutely necessary. 178 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Tia Booth should have been the bachelorette, agree, just as 179 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: much as I should have been the bachelor. And we 180 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: we're from the same Me and t are from the 181 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: same era you are, So those are the two massive 182 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: miss opportunities by the friend. 183 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: Tia would have been a great bachelor. I actually it's 184 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: still very surprising to me that she never ended up 185 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: being the Bouchelorette. 186 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: Mel should have been replaced as the golden Bachelor. 187 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: I disagree. 188 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: I disagree to a it worked, He's in a successful 189 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: looks to be a successful relationship. If anything, I think 190 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: they should have been less safe with Mel, because it 191 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: just everything about Mel in the way he appeared seemed 192 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: extremely safe after what he had said, and I think 193 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: they should have been like, all right, let's let's go. 194 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: I think so too. I think that he went on 195 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: a podcast he said something a little careless. There was 196 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: huge controversy around it, which I mean is kind of 197 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: sometimes not the worst thing in the world. I mean, 198 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: it gathered a lot of hype and attention surrounding the season, 199 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: and then I feel like they pulled the reins on 200 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: him so tight for the entire season, and it's like, 201 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: let the man be free, you know. I think that 202 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: people make mistakes. Public figures make mistake, people say stupid 203 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: things every single day. I don't think we needed to like, 204 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: I mean, look like within reason, but this comment, I 205 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: don't think we needed to fire him over it. 206 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also like, if you're looking for a perfect 207 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: individual to look up to, you probably shouldn't look at 208 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: people that are going reality TV. 209 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: Well, you're not going to find a perfect person to 210 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: look up to. People that are aiming to do that 211 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: are going to fail every single time. He's also he 212 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: ended up happily committed to Peg, who is not forty, 213 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: So it all worked out. 214 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Bachelor Pad should replace Bachelor in Paradise. I'm gonna say 215 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: I disagree. A it's where we're from and b I 216 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: think bachelor Pad worked when it worked because there was 217 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: like no holds bar like it was you had people 218 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: know what like people were no holds bar. Isn't that 219 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: that's the same no holds bar? 220 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, isn't that a same Maybe I've never heard 221 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: of it. 222 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: Nothing's off nothing was off the table. Okay when bachelor 223 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Pad was being. 224 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, there was no social media. The biggest thing they 225 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: had to deal with was like tabloids and it was 226 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: just a very very different time in the world. I 227 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: don't think what was created on Baucher Pad could ever 228 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: be recreated now today. And I think that, you know, 229 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: Bacherlor and Paradise for us is very nostalgic. There were 230 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: biased but it would make me sad if they cut 231 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: Bacher in Paradise for replaced with Bachler Pad. And I 232 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: also just don't know if it would. I think bacher 233 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,359 Speaker 2: has a great concept and I think that they can definitely. 234 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Well they they already did. I mean they pulled some 235 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: for this season A Veteran Paradise, but yeah, you're I 236 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: don't I this season A Veteran Paradise should have been 237 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: on a beach, like they're on a beach with they're 238 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: off a beach, like, put me back on a beach. 239 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: They let the contestants live on a beach. No going 240 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: back to the hotel room. 241 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't want to, but I didn't mind because 242 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: my favorite part of Parrot, I think conversations. 243 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they could still have those in the treehouses 244 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: and they could. They just never they chose never to 245 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: do that. That's true. Yeah, Daisy should have let Kelsey 246 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: find out it was her instead of telling her. I 247 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: don't really remember that situation, if I'm gonna be quite honest. 248 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: So remember Daisy was like, I'm pretty sure it's not me, 249 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: and she went and told Kelsey like, I think it's you, 250 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: it's not me. And then they rode in that van 251 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: together and then Daisy went out broke up with Joey left, 252 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: and then Kelsey went out and they proposed. 253 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, is that that's what happens? 254 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, do I agree with that statement. Yes, 255 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: But I really like Daisy, so it's hard for me 256 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: to disagree because I think she had nothing but the 257 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: purest of intentions. Yeah. 258 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: I think those situations. That's what makes the show interesting 259 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: is when people do something that they probably shouldn't have done. 260 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like so probably wasn't something she needed to do. 261 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: But I think it's okay. 262 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: The Bachelorette is more entertaining than the Bachelor. 263 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: Disagree, disagree. I just want to see a lot of 264 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: girly pops. 265 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, because here's the truth, and you see this, 266 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: you even you see this with Golden where I think 267 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: it gets highlighted more. But when a season's boring the guys, 268 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: when the guys are boring, they're boring TV. When the 269 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: women are boring TV, they're not as boring. And that's 270 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: why I choose that. 271 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: I agree, right, yep. 272 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: If a contestant is an aspiring musician, it's immediate ground 273 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: for elimination. I just think it depends how the person's 274 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: handling that. 275 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is hard because I don't know 276 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: if that's tough. I think it's it depends on the person. 277 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: I think you got to take that as a case 278 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: by case situation. 279 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what if, like I'm trying to be a violentist, 280 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: then the opera. 281 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think that's okay. Yeah, you know, but 282 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: if you're trying. 283 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: To be like a country singer, a country. 284 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: Singer, and if you've been trying to be a country 285 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: singer for twenty years and you live in Nashville and 286 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: like that is your job in a way, I think 287 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: that's one thing. If it's like, oh, I just quit 288 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: my job in finance and I'm an aspiring country singer 289 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: and now I'm on the Bachelor, I think that can 290 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: be a little concerning for the potential longevity of the 291 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: relationship post. 292 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Show, unless you're really talented. You know what, if you 293 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: go on this show, because there's a lot of fucking 294 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: aspiring musicians go on this show and I'm just like, 295 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: you're fine, You're fine, You're you're better than I am. 296 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: You are better than most people at a karaoke bar. 297 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: You're probably average in a bar in Nashville, and you're fine, 298 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: but you're not great. If you're fucking. 299 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: Great, if you're you know, Mariah Carrey, if. 300 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: You're Mariah Carey and you go on the show and yeah, then. 301 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: The lead is going to be looking at them being like, 302 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm hitching my wagon, go for it. We're gonna be 303 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: at the Grammys in two years. 304 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna go on and you're an artist 305 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: of any sorts on this show and you're just starting. 306 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: You better be fucking amazing. Otherwise, Yeah, you're probably going 307 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: home because you're. 308 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: Feeling that's a hot take. It's fine if you're really talented, 309 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: but if you're not, it's not fine because. 310 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: If you're not, you're not gonna make it. 311 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: Looking at me like I'm a meal ticket, like what's 312 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: going on here? But I will say I think people 313 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: can come on this show for incentive for their career 314 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: and still fall in love genuinely. 315 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Bukowski is the all time veatri Nation legend. 316 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: I think, yes, But I think it's hard, Like he 317 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: would probably hit up a mount rushmore of non leads, 318 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like, if we're putting 319 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: together aunt rushmore of best contestants that were never leads, 320 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: he would definitely be on it. But Chris has been 321 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: off camera for like ten years now, you know what 322 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean. So there's a lot of people that have 323 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: joined the viewership of this franchise that probably wouldn't know 324 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: who he is. He was part of a very like 325 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: concentrated ten year period in the franchise, but iconic in 326 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: his period for sure. 327 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch when he came back on Paradise 328 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: for I think. 329 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: That's maybe the only season of his I did watch. 330 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think he was very Chris Bukowski asque 331 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: on that season. 332 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: No, I don't remember him being like the Chris we 333 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: know in Love, but he did get engaged, and that's 334 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: very Chris Pokowski of him. Yeah. 335 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: Segment two, Who's who? Okay, don't even know what we're 336 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: doing here. Whose relationship storyline do you think is the 337 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: most like yours? 338 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: Maybe Hannah and Dylan. No, not even I'm just trying 339 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 2: to think of other Paradise couples that got engaged on 340 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: the show. 341 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: I would say the most like ours. I would say, 342 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Paradise. Yeah, Paradise couples the most like us, 343 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: the most like our story. I guess I don't know. 344 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: I think I think like, I don't know. I would 345 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: go like maybe like maybe Jadeen Tanner. Yeah, but I 346 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: don't even. I didn't see their season, so I just 347 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: don't see. 348 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe we don't have enough knowledge off the top 349 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: of our head to answer that question. I think, I mean, 350 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: I think Hannah and Dylan, but I mean I think 351 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: that they fall into a category that we also fall into, 352 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: which is a pretty generic paradise love story of like 353 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: a little you know, someone goes on another date, situation 354 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: comes back. 355 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: But ours is different because we had. 356 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: A third party involved. 357 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so unless someone had that. 358 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: Which I don't think anyone did. Yeah, all right, no 359 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: one's like us. 360 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: That's right, Serena. That's what I was trying to get to. 361 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: That was my point, Serena. Out of all the batriination, 362 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: out of all the vetriination, who do you think is 363 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: most like Joe? 364 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: Oh that's so hard. I really don't know. I don't know. 365 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: Who do you think is most like you? I mean 366 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: Nick comes to mind a little bit. I think you 367 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: and Nick have some similarities. I mean definitely. 368 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's what you think, it's not what I think. 369 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 2: What do you think? 370 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. 371 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: This is a co hosted podcast. 372 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's phrased, Serena. Out of all the 373 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: best nation, who do you think Joe is most like? 374 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: I know, that's a hard one. 375 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: You and Natasha are both ares, You're like the most 376 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: different people, but you also are in like some ways, 377 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: are very similar. 378 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. That's a hard one. I mean 379 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: that the same question is for me, who do I 380 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: think you're most like? And I would have like, Okay, 381 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: do we want to do this off of people that 382 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: we know so like we we're friends with Nick? Or 383 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: do we want to do this to where like the 384 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: past few seasons came across the who do you think 385 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: came across the most like you? Or who are you 386 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: most if you had to pick like somebody that when 387 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: you watch them, yeah, it reminded you of me. 388 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: Those are just hard in different ways, Like. 389 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: And that's gonna be around podcasts because I don't know. 390 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: The comparison game is so hard, Like I don't know 391 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: how people ever like sit around and compare themselves to others, 392 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: Like everyone is so different from one another. 393 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll move on because I feel like this 394 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 1: is gonna take us there. 395 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is question making my hands swell, let's 396 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: keep it going. 397 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: Whose proposal story is your favorite out of the entire franchise? U? 398 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: Sta uh. 399 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck it? Who is your favorite Bachelor of all time? 400 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: Clayton clay Is. Clayton's was the best. He He just did. 401 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: Things that not one other person would ever even consider doing. 402 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: And I appreciate that and I do feel bad for 403 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: the women that were on his season because I think 404 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: that they suffered in various ways. But he just gave 405 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: us so many wild moments, and it gave them the 406 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: opportunity to give us so many wild moments. 407 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: I also enjoy talking to him when he comes on 408 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: this When he comes on this podcast, I enjoyed talking 409 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: like he's he's got a lot to say. 410 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: He does have a lot to say. I also Zach Shallcross. 411 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: I think it's a bad rep for being a boring bachelor, 412 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: but I like him too. I think he's Him and 413 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 2: Katie are great and he's like cool to hang out with. 414 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't think Zach was boring. I think people are boring. 415 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: That's how I take bitches. Who do you think could 416 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: have made the greatest Bachelorette if she was given the role? 417 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: Victoria Fuller? 418 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I do agree with her for sure, 419 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: and I think bachelor. 420 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: Myself stop buying for the role. 421 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Okay, who I probably would have been the worst? 422 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: You would have been good. You would have been very good. 423 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: Who do you think is an overrated fan account fan favorite? Oh? 424 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: Who do you think is an overrated fan favorite? Grocery 425 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: store Joe No you're not over Who do I think 426 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: was an overrated fan favorite? I mean that's hard because 427 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: now we're gonna go take a fan favorite and be like, 428 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: this person's actually not great. 429 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: No, yeah, we're not answering that. I'm not gonna be like, hey, 430 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: this person that everyone thinks is great behind the scenes 431 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: like they kind of suck. 432 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. Who was a villain in your eyes that flew 433 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: under the radar their season? 434 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: No, I'm not answering that either. 435 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: Uh uh, Yeah, that's a tough one. Who do you 436 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: think could have been a star on Paradise this past 437 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: season if they were cast? 438 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: You know who wasn't cast that I was surprised about, 439 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: and I know that she's a much more mellow personality, 440 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: but I enjoy her would be Rachel Nons. 441 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised she wasn't cast. 442 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: Her and her and Lea are really good friends, Like 443 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: it would have been fun to see their friendship, especially 444 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: because Lea was kind of going through her single girl 445 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: journey on the show. Yeah, she was one of the 446 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: ones that I remember being like, I'm really surprised she's 447 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: not down here. 448 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really, I don't really know. I think 449 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: maybe that guy Brett that went home Night one. I 450 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: would have liked to since Yeah, Spicy. 451 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: Questions Segment three, our third and final segment of the episode. 452 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: Okay, what's something better? Her fans need to hear. 453 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh my God so much. 454 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: It's just a show. 455 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: Just stop stop leaving hate comments, guys like you're not 456 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: going to You're not going to stop, and that's you know, 457 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: your prerogative to do so. But like some of them, 458 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: you could text your mom, some of them you could 459 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: text your best friend, and some of you should probably 460 00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: delete social media. 461 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: Do you currently have beef with anyone in batriation? 462 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: I don't think so, not that I know of. 463 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: No what tea can you spill from your respective seasons? 464 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if I can share anything. 465 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm trying to think, are like my first season, Well, 466 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean Clayton or Colton was on my season of 467 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Vetterman Paradise, and he's gay. 468 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: I don't think you're spilling anything there. He's married to 469 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: a man. 470 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: That's not that's not news anymore our season of Paradise. 471 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Any I thought our season of Paradise is pretty great 472 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: because I feel like everything was kind of out there. 473 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: You and I season or the one you run before 474 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: me our season. Yeah. I actually think a lot of 475 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 2: the tea that typically would be capt behind the scenes 476 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: made it onto the beach our season Paradise. I don't 477 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: know if there is much actually to spell from that. 478 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: What predictions do you have for Taylor Frankie Paul's season, Well, 479 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: I definitely predict that her. I mean, I watched season 480 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: three of Housewives and Mormon Wives and Secrets Secret Wives 481 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: and Mormon Wives. 482 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: Great show, so good it is, it is so good. 483 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: Glad I watched it, and I my prediction is her 484 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: guy on season three, what's his name? 485 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: Dakota. 486 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: Dakota definitely definitely tries to make a comeback here, do 487 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: you think, Yeah, I don't know if he's definitely making 488 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: an appearance. 489 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: Do you think he's a Night one Limo entrance. 490 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a Night one Limo entrance. No. 491 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: I can see them bring him to like host a 492 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: date with her, like bringing him in as like a 493 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: tailor expert to like host one of the dates, and 494 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: then like having her and him have a little chat. 495 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: I think he comes in and he's like, listen, what 496 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: why don't we try to make this work. 497 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: Maybe I will accept any appearance from him on that show. 498 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm also curious to see like the women making appearances 499 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: on the show. I haven't seen or heard anything about 500 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: the potential of them going on it, and I feel 501 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: like those girls are always on TikTok. 502 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think they will. 503 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine they won't. I love that my 504 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: worlds are colliding. 505 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: What's the best and worst thing about the rise of 506 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: social media in terms of the franchise, example being able 507 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: to see more of your faves, but cloud trait Chasers 508 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: join the show. 509 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: I actually don't think cloud Chasers joining the show is 510 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: something that's tied to the rise of social media. I 511 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: think that it's always been there. I think that it 512 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: has just taken on a new shape with the rise 513 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: of social media. I think that the biggest downfall is 514 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: people's or as a contestant when they do something that 515 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: is deemed wrong and again, like, sometimes it is wrong, 516 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: but there's times where I kind of want to see 517 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: someone like double down a little bit and be like, hey, 518 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: like this is why I made this choice or this 519 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: is why I said this thing. And people sometimes to 520 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: come to apology so much easier and faster than as 521 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 2: a viewer, I want them to like sometimes yes, you 522 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: need to like not double down, you need to take 523 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: you on ability and to apologize. But sometimes you want 524 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: to see someone like be like this is who I am, 525 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 2: and like defend their choice a little bit. And I 526 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 2: think we don't see that as much because people are 527 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: so scared of being eaten apart on the internet. 528 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that would be I agree with you, 529 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: that would be my thing too. I think people are 530 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: because of social media, and because they care about how 531 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: they come across on social media, they approach the show 532 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: from a more hesitant Yeah, I'm not as willing to 533 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: like do this or put myself out there as much 534 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: because of how I don't want any backlash on social media. 535 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 2: And I think being the quote unquote villain before social 536 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: media had like benefits and perks to it that people 537 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: were almost like willing to do it, whereas now I 538 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: feel like the monetization of social media has played such 539 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: a role that you want to be liked more so 540 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: than just like your own ego wanting to be liked, 541 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 2: but also for the financial opportunity that can come with 542 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: being a fan favorite. Whereas the villains don't always see 543 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: that same return. 544 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: Well, I would say, like so I would say like 545 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: early to you know, late two thousands, like early like 546 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: two thousand, like twelve thirteen, like the villain you know, 547 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: you took, you took like a go looking guy who 548 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: was the villain and he went to like the bar 549 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: and he's crushing it. Yeah, you know, like it's definitely changed. 550 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: I think like he is getting attention. I think I 551 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: think people used to love the villains, where now it's like, 552 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: if you're a villain, you're we fucking hate you, and 553 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: we're people love. 554 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: To hate the villains. It was fun. It's not as 555 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: fun anymore. 556 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: Okay. And then last but not least, last question that 557 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: we're wrapping it, what percentage of people do you think 558 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: are coming on the show just for Clout. 559 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: I think it's less than what people think. 560 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: I would say, Well, I think just. 561 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: For Cloud meaning like you're not interested in a relationship, 562 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: You're not interested in the experience, you're not interested in 563 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: making friends. You're literally just there because you want attention 564 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: social Well. 565 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: Okay, but I want to I want to throw this 566 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: in there is is Clout also like oh this will 567 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: give me a good chance to date after the show, 568 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: like it'll be easier. 569 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that's clout, I do, really that's the definition. Yeah, No, 570 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: I guess you're. 571 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: Right, and I think in that I think in that sense, 572 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: I think I would say ninety percent. 573 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: WHOA you think ninety percent of people? 574 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I just think realistically, if you get cast out, 575 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: I was going to. 576 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: Say, like fifteen to twenty Max. 577 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: I think there's only a select few every season that 578 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: are going on this show with the hopes and dreams 579 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: of marrying the lead. 580 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: Okay, but what about the alternative of like if I 581 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: end up with them, great, but like this is just 582 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: a really cool experience and like a once in a lifetime. 583 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: Exp that I put that, I put that in the 584 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if that would The right reasons of 585 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: this show supposedly the right reasons, so anything else is 586 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: clout in my opinion. But the right reason is to 587 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: go on the show because you want to be engaged 588 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: and get married. And I think ninety percent of the 589 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: people that come on agree before they even know who 590 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: the fucking lead is, so like you have to be there. 591 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: There's Yeah, I think ninety percent of them are like, Okay, 592 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm either I'm coming on for the experience, I'm coming 593 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: on because what could happen after I'm coming on? Because yeah, 594 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: like I'm sick of being single, and I think after 595 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: the show, like I have a way better chance of 596 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: dating someone that I and I have more options now. Yeah, 597 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: I think like the percentage of people that go on 598 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: the show to make a career out of social media, podcasting, 599 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: influencing whatever, I say, that's a lot lower. Yeah, I 600 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: would think that's probably like I would say that's probably 601 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: like no, no way time. I would say that's like 602 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: around like the like forty percent. Yeah, WHOA think about 603 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: it realistically? How many people can go can't commit to 604 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: leaving their career Because we're now in our mid twenties, 605 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: late that mid twenties, early thirties, mid thirties can leave 606 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: their career for they have to be able to leave 607 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: for two and a half months. How many people could 608 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: with can do that? Either you have to have a 609 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: very flexible schedule, yeah, or you have to already have 610 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: had some money. But it's hard. Most people have to 611 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Most people have to like either quit their job or 612 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: be willing to get fired. 613 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, that's a good point. 614 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, have a lot of them. Okay, that 615 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: is that's an episode. Thank you guys so much for 616 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: tuning into Battery Happy. I make sure you're not want 617 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the podcast. 618 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: We'll have new and expecive interviews making you every single week. 619 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening by