1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: hot pursuit. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: All right, Today we have kind of a calmer, hopefully 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: more relaxing, breathing room, breathing room episode, because Hannah, you 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: had a vicious week. 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: It was an assault on every since. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: You went to you went to Miami. I mean you 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: were doing a lot of stuff before as well, but 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: then you went to Miami and it was like I 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: was texting with you. It's like tough to keep your 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: head above water with all the movie. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, I mean, look, I'm not complaining in the lease. 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: This is a great gig if you can get it, 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: covering Formula One in Miami, but also it is super intense, 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm I'm in recovery mode. Now I got 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: to get back to my routines. 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: Well, not only covering Formula one, but also Ferrari because 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: they had a release, at least one new release, and 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: you were I saw driving one of the cars, a 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: different car. 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: Yes, this was Ferrari's first ever car debut outside of Italy, 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: which I think really speaks to how important Miami F 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: one is for Ferrari specifically. But yeah, they debuted actually 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: two twelve cylinder new cars called and I'm going to 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: butcher the name because I'm not Italian, but it's basically 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: called the twelve Chilandry or doce Chillindry, I guess if 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: you're Italian. But it's twelve cylinder and they it's coop 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: and a convertible. And then yeah, I drove the two 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: nine to six gts around town. I hadn't driven that. 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: I'd driven the GTB. But the S is the Spider version, 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: which is actually a great car for Miami. 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: All right, So I want to talk about those two 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: things separately because I believe they're very different vehicles. So 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: when you say let's start with the twelve cylinders, you 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: say two cars, but you're talking about just the coop 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: version and this and the Spider version. 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's the same. It's a new model line, 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: the twelve Cylindery, which is one basically Berlinetta style, which 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: is sort of that long low coop. It's a two seater. 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: And then there's a convertible version of that. 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we can agree to say twelve Cylindery. 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. That don't really help me. 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, did someone make a point that that's 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: not how it's pronounced, because that's how every America will 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: pronounce it. 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: Yes, the Ferrari executive that I sat next to at 47 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: dinner dinner for six hundred by the way, at this 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: debut on South Beach, Yes, was very intent on having 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: me say Doce Chillindri with the trill on the r 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: at the end. But I just it's almost think it's 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: like they think it's a funny joke to come up 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: with names that Americans can't say. They I mean, they 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: know it doesn't matter, We'll still try to buy the cars. 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: I feel like it's some inside joke that well. 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: It's not the first time they've had a jokey name, right, 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: I know, the. 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: La for and also the per Songua. You know what 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: I the par saying is how I would normally say it. 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: But then when you go drive it, all the executives 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: are telling you no, no, no, no, Pearlsongua, you know, 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: and I'm even still not saying it correctly. So it's 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: like they just come up with these names that Americans 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: cannot say, and we still want to buy the cars. 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: Well, so it doesn't matter obviously what it's called. When 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: you look at it. I think it's beautiful. To me, 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: it looks like a Daytona, like a new version of 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: Don Johnson's car from Miami Vice. Yeah. 68 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm really happy to hear you 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: say that, because I think it's so cool. I think 70 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: it's awesome. And the car, from what I saw, got 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: so much hate online everything I posted about it on 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: social media. People were ripping it up and just saying 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: it looks terrible and Ferrari's lost their way and all 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: of this stuff. And I'm sorry. I think it's awesome 75 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: and if the masses can't understand that, then that's their problem. 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: But from someone who saw it in real life, and 77 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad you concur Matt, I think it's so badass. Yeah. 78 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean both of them, both the coop and the 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: convertible look rad and they do look like the Daytona 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: in the front, which is super cool and which is 81 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: really raising in value right now, Like on, bring a 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: trailer if you like. 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: I would love to have a Daytona, right, Yeah. 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: So cool? I mean, I let's okay, first of all 85 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: these cars, I think the coop starts at about four 86 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. They haven't well Calary, yeah, 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: they haven't announced American pricing yet, but basically the conversion 88 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: right now with European prices is like four hundred and 89 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars. So we're talking extremely rarefied air. 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: That's and that's gonna be the MSRP right because the 91 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: trip is you can't probably buy one unless you've bought 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: a couple of the cheaper ferraris. That's how they that's 93 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: how their dealership network works. Yes, and then if you 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: get it second in the second hand the aftermarket, it's 95 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: gonna already have gone way up from there completely. 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I always ask guys tell me about 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: the allocations. It's it's obviously not just about who can 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: pay for it. It's a mixture of things. And the 99 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: first thing every executive will say to me is, oh, well, 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: it's up to the dealers. And the second thing they 101 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: say as well, it's about passion. And when they say 102 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: it's about passion, what they really mean is how many 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: other ferraris have you bought? First? And then maybe we'll 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: talk about you can also buy this one. 105 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: To me, that is a huge churn off, you know, 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: and Jay Leno famously says he will never buy a 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: Ferrari because of that kind of snobby You have to 108 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: have purchased a few others before you can get this, 109 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: and it's up to the dealership. That's such a cop out, 110 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 2: isn't it? 111 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. But here my question is how do 112 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: they get around it? And here's the thing. Ferrari is 113 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: in a league of its own in the world of 114 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: cars because it's valued like an actual luxury brand, along 115 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: with Cardia and actual luxury brands. It's the only automaker 116 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: that Bloomberg Intelligence really puts in a class of its own. 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: The average price of a Ferrari is four times higher 118 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: than the price of the average Porsche, so it really 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: is in a league of their own. They put out 120 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: these cars and priced them at four hundred thousand dollars 121 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: because they can get that much money for them. They've 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: built their business on selling fewer cars and making fewer 123 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: cars than they can sell, and that really works for them. 124 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you're always going 125 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: to be disappointing somebody at the dealership, and you know, 126 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: maybe it is fair that, Hey, people who have been 127 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: around longer and have really been around the brand and 128 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: shown that they're involved and invested in it. Maybe that 129 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: actually is the most fair way to sell the cars. 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: I guess so, And to be honest, I'm never going 131 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: to buy one anyway, certainly not a new Ferrari. But 132 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 2: let's talk about the beauty of this engine, which is 133 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: in the name. It's a twelve cylinder again, which I 134 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: don't know if that was expected that they continue to 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: put out twelve cylinders Lamborghini has as well. It's got 136 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: to be difficult with the you know, the regulations around 137 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: the world that they face in every single different jurisdiction. 138 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: But is it Is it a hybrid? 139 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: No, it's not a hybrid. I think this is really 140 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: also Ferrari saying yes, we're going to come out with 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: a full EV next year, and yes we're building a 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: factory to make hybrid and electric cars, you know in Italy. 143 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: But also don't worry, we're still going to be producing 144 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: internal combustion engines because they have made a lot of 145 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: news this year about how they are transitioning to electric 146 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: vehicles and you know, YadA, YadA, YadA, but I think 147 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: they are all and they build a hybrid also, yeah, 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: well the two nine six that I the two nine 149 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: six that I drove, which was which is a great car. 150 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: Honestly, are the cars that you saw in Miami finished vehicles? 151 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: Can you tell like what the interior is gonna look like, 152 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: entertainment is going to be. 153 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: Yes, the interior is the same as in the Roma 154 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: if you've been in the Roma, and if you it's 155 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: basically don't do it the same same. This is weird 156 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: that we have the same taste in Ferraris because we 157 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: don't have the same taste about many things, true, but 158 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: it's it's this. It's like their dual zone cockpit, which 159 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: basically is made to make the driver and the passenger 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: feel like they both sort of have a cockpit and 161 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: can control things like climate and audio and you know, 162 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: entertainment and all of that. So if you've been in 163 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: the Roma, you you've seen it. I know that's like 164 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: kind of a snotty thing to say, but it's the same. 165 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: And it. 166 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: Just took I saw a guy in a parking lot. 167 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And and it does have that like fake 168 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: gated shifter on it where it's sort of like in 169 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: the center console. You know, Ferrari is famous for their 170 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: gated shifters which click click sounds super cool. It's very nice. 171 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: They'll never make anymore, correct having for decades, yeah, correct. 172 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: But now you know they've done like something that kind 173 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: of looks like a gated shifter and you sort of 174 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: move the little lever forward and back to go into drive. 175 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: So it's the same. There's nothing really new there. I 176 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: do like that they retain some of some buttons. I 177 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: don't like the even in the two ninety six, you know, 178 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: honestly trying to control some of the audio. It's all 179 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: like a touchscreen. I'm not a huge fan of that. No, 180 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: it's distracting. 181 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: Let me ask about so twelve cylinders not a hybrid. 182 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: It's essentially the follow on to the eight twelve, right exactly. 183 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 184 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: So one thing I wonder is you mentioned the gatea chifter. 185 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: Why won't they ever make those again? My kid brother 186 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: is like looking for used ferraris his latest obsession, and uh, 187 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: he's noticed, and he's right that the ones with manual 188 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: transmissions are worth a lot more. You know, we're talking 189 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: thirty forty year old ferraris. But yessmission, ye yep, they're 190 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: they're they're they're worth so much more. Doesn't Ferrari see 191 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: that and say we should make one again. 192 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that other than what 193 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: I into it is that they're not purchased, like when 194 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: it really comes down to. 195 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: It, because they aren't ordered when they're new. 196 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: Yes, consumers, it's at least in the United States, and 197 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: this is the biggest market by far. Actually, when it 198 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: really comes down to it, American buyers don't option for those. 199 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: They might for some some nine to eleven's, you know, 200 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: maybe even like some subar us, But everything that I've 201 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: ever I don't know the answer to that, other than 202 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: it's like the wagon question, like why don't automakers make 203 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: more wagons and when you because we think they're very cool. 204 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: But whenever you ask, same with the gated shifters and 205 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: sticks manual transmissions in general, like when you ask automakers that, 206 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: the answer is always they're not really optioned, they're not sold. 207 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: They're not so weird because if you look on bring 208 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: a trailer, obviously you know they will even put in 209 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: the headline six speed manual because they know it brings 210 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: more bits. 211 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I think part of it, too, is a generational thing 212 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: where people who have the money to buy a classic 213 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: car with a manual transmission probably know how to drive 214 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: manual transmissions and are a little bit older potentially than 215 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: people buying a new car. That's a theory. 216 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: Let's quickly get onto Miami because I mean to F one, 217 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: because I want to hear about your Formula one experience. Obviously, 218 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: the Ferrari launch was apparently a huge part of it, 219 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: with a six dinner on South Beach, right, But like 220 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: the race, how awesome was it? 221 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: Okay? So the thing is, this was my first time 222 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: at the Miami Race. I'd been to Vegas, and I'd 223 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: been to Austin a couple of times. This was the 224 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: first time i'd been there, and it was not as 225 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: bad as I thought it would be in terms of logistics. 226 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: I had heard nightmares about getting to the track, which 227 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: is in hard Rock Stadium, which is not close to 228 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: South Beach. You know, it took me about ninety minutes 229 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: to get there by car before the race. Also, the 230 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: race is in the hottest part of the day at 231 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: like four in the afternoon, So I'd heard a lot 232 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: about parking as a struggle. Water is an issue, and 233 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: I think Miami in its third year has really adjusted 234 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: and listened to feedback and fixed a lot of those things. 235 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: I actually found that ingress and egress to the race 236 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: and amenities at the race were pretty good. I mean, 237 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: and also we heard a lot less complaining from the 238 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: drivers about the track, which I think is a really 239 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: good sign. It was an exciting race. Obviously Lando Norris won, 240 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: which was a big deal. That Max Verstappin didn't win, 241 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and nothing against Max Verstappin, but it's nice to see 242 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: the podium shook up a little bit, so that was 243 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: really exciting. It was Lando's first win ever, so that 244 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: was really great. 245 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: Oh awesome for him. Yeah, So it's it's such a 246 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: huge accomplishment for these drivers. You know, when you see 247 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: someone like Max or when you see Lewis winning all 248 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: the time, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. 249 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: But there aren't that many people who have won a 250 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: Formula One Grand. 251 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Prix, so I know, and I mean Lando Norris was 252 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: literally in tears, ah for sure. I mean, it was 253 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: so emotional, and I do think this is a great 254 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: thing that we do have a race that's a little 255 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: more exciting. I saw the numbers that actually this Miami 256 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: Grand Prix was the highest watch of Formula one Grand 257 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Prix ever on television with over three million viewers. Wow. 258 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: So that's a really really good sign. I think Miami 259 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: is really settling in and finding its spot. You know, 260 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: Vegas is great. 261 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: That's got to be three million viewers in the US alone, right, 262 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: because globally they have you know, like top gear numbers 263 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: like hundreds of millions. 264 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Of yess, three million viewers in the US on AB 265 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: watched ABC's news coverage. Yeah, yeah, so that's really good. 266 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: And you know, Vegas is its own thing. I love 267 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: that the Vegas Race is literally on the streets of Vegas, 268 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: on the strip. You can see the race from your 269 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: hotel room or you can just walk down to the strip. 270 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: I really love that, and I wish that, honestly, I 271 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: wish that Miami would be around like down South Beach 272 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: at night. That would be very cool because then that 273 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: would eliminate the drive and the heat and everything like that. 274 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: But they wouldn't have as much control over the surface, 275 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: and that's the problem. 276 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: And that has that has really been a problem. And 277 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: I would also say, honestly, in Miami, it really felt 278 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: like the race was almost besides the point. There was 279 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: so much going on there in terms of like Carbone 280 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Beach and crazy parties and you know, lots of salt, 281 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: some music, which I love, and amazing food. It was 282 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: an assault on the senses in every way. I love 283 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: seeing the fashions. It was like people figured out how 284 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: to wear the least amount of clothing and dress up 285 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: at the same time, which was kind of amazing. I mean, 286 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: everyone was in a really good mood. People are happy. 287 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: It feels very international there right now, which I love. 288 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very that's very cool. That's always cool about Miami. 289 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: Right You've got the South America. 290 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Completely And you know what was also weird though, And 291 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: I did ask organizers about this all through, you know, 292 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: I went all down South Beach, I went to the 293 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: design district. I kind of poked around a bit because 294 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to see what the city was like aside 295 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: from the race. And the weird thing was there were 296 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: there was zero signing about Formula one anywhere in the city. 297 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: Even driving on the way to the track, there were 298 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: no signs saying welcome racing fans. You could have been 299 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: anywhere in Miami and you would have had no idea 300 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: there was a Formula race. Happening, and it was to 301 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: the point where I did send an email to one 302 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: of my contacts who was working to organize the race, 303 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: and she said that they basically spin all their budget 304 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: for advertising up front when they were selling tickets, and 305 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: that left, you know, when the race actually was happening. 306 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: There literally was not even in the airport. There was 307 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: no signage, So I don't know. I would have liked 308 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: to see some signage to make it feel festive and 309 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: exciting and like you're a big part of something. There 310 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: was none of that to get so to get there correct, 311 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: there was honestly zero. 312 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: So we spoke with Tyler Reps, who is in charge 313 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: of organizing the thing, and he said, take the bus. 314 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: You didn't take that ut no no oh no oh no, 315 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: I know, but I did see the buses, and I 316 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: also saw a ton of petticaps, which is kind of cool, 317 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: like firing people back and forth. I actually had a 318 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: press parking pass, so I parked closer in, which thank 319 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: God for that. Yes, it was I admit I was 320 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: spoiled on that because I did have a press park. 321 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: So it's also I think it's a different experience for 322 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: a luxury reporter. Like you, he's going to Carbone and 323 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: to every event. Then it is for somebody who's trying 324 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: to do it on a budget. But it is possible, 325 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: right to do it on a bit of a budget. 326 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: And see, like if you only care about the race, Yeah, 327 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: you don't have to spend all the extra money, stay 328 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: at the fancy hotels, go to the amazing restaurants. 329 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: You can do it, yeah, completely, and look we're guilty 330 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: of it. Of course. The two hundred and eighty dollars 331 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: lobster roll is what makes headlines. Yes, yeah, if you 332 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: want to spend two undred and eighty bucks on a 333 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: lobster roll and just like completely ball up, yeah you 334 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: can do that. That's what right about. That's what makes 335 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: the headlines. But honestly, you can buy a hot dog 336 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: and bring your own water in and just enjoy the race. 337 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's what like, you know, I was gonna say, 338 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: that's what my family would have done, you know, just 339 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: pack a little lunch, buy your general admission tickets and 340 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: you can kind of make it whatever adventure you want. 341 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: And I do take Tyler at his word. They did 342 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: do a good job of having you know, the food trucks, 343 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: of having general admission passes that were relatively affordable. There 344 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff in sort of the fan 345 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: area that people could just walk around and you didn't 346 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: have to buy anything. You could just be there and 347 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Yeah, so it was really good. 348 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: Like I mean, obviously, the Elite is a draw for 349 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: Formula one. That's part of the costique. But most people, 350 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: you know, don't don't shell out two hundred and eighty 351 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: dollars or even twenty eight dollars for a lobster. 352 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: It's yeh, it's kind of it's insane. 353 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: And most people don't drive to the race in a Ferrari. 354 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: But I imagine you did, right. 355 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: Well, I had to for the review I had, right, So. 356 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm interested to hear about this because I've heard so 357 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: many people say, like, this car is amazing, and I 358 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: know it's kind of like the supposedly the successor to 359 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: the Dino, which was the six cylinder Ferrari, and I've 360 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: always thought it's kind of budget. I don't mean that 361 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: snobby way, but six cylinders to me, unless they're flat 362 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: or in a line, doesn't make much sense. Tell me 363 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: about the car. 364 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, the car looks cool and I 365 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: am shallow enough to be really swayed by how a 366 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: car looks. The car looks awesome, if photograph's awesome. I 367 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: had it all over the bridges like Rickenbacker Causeway whatever, 368 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: that one is down by the water you over to 369 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: keep biskey, and I shot the heck out of that thing, 370 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: and it photographs great. It looks like a Ferrari I had. 371 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: It was some sort of blue, cool blue color. The 372 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: car looks awesome. And I also liked speaking about the 373 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: V six hybrid that it cuts the engine out at 374 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: low speed automatically to go under hybrid power. And I 375 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: actually like that driving down South Beach going slow because 376 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the car is so flashy, the additional sound of an 377 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: engine is just like for me, it just is screaming 378 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: for attention that I don't want. So I actually loved 379 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: being in the hybrid mode and with no engine sound. 380 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: Actually yes, because because like on Collins Avenue, you know 381 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: it's largely pedestrian. You're just going very slow, sort of cruising, 382 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: taking it all in. And that was actually surprisingly very 383 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: cool because i'd. 384 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: Be great because the worst thing is when you see 385 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: these no. 386 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: And they're just screaming because you. 387 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: Know, driving down the avenue with the loudest motor and 388 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: came fast. 389 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Completely, it's too so that. I actually really surprisingly 390 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: like that. The car still does zero to sixty and 391 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: under three seconds, so it's instant. It's so fast. The 392 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: steering is somehow wired into your brain. It's like you 393 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: even think about turning in the car? Is there? I 394 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: have to say I didn't. The turning radius was not 395 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: good at all. I of course, you know it's it's 396 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: a little stressful driving a Ferrari around anyway. It's an 397 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: expensive car. Drivers in Miami are not courteous, I'll say, 398 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: and you know you're kind of always looking over your 399 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: shoulder for anything. 400 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: But I heard it sounds I mean when you have 401 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: the motor on obviously, Yeah, I heard it sounds amazing. 402 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: I someone said melodious. You know, I feel like Steve 403 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: Sirio said he would take a two nine six, like. 404 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: He probably would. 405 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: A lot of people are raving about this V six Ferrari, 406 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: which to me, oh yeah, and the fact that it 407 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: has engines start stop makes it even worse in my mind. 408 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know, usually usually I agree, but don't 409 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: forget this is an eight hundred plus horsepower car. It 410 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: still has a Ferrari engine in it. They're not like 411 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: these guys. Someone said to me, Ferrari doesn't make cars, 412 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: they make engines, which I thought was really cool, Like, yeah, 413 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: it's a V six, but in a way, if anyone's 414 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: going to do a V six, let Ferrari do it, 415 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: and let them do it right. And you know, I 416 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: had no no quibbles with the engine at all. I 417 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: think you're more into engine technology than me. 418 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 2: You know. 419 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: I want something to be fun to drive and to 420 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: look cool whatever is under the hood. Like if it 421 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: if it works, it works, you know. 422 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I agree if it sounds good and 423 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: if it feels warm. 424 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: You know. 425 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: The thing I don't like about V six is or 426 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: the to the infamous two liter four cylinder motor that 427 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: every condo box has, is that they feel so cold 428 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: and small and empty. And I want the feeling of 429 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: the I want the sound and the vibes of the 430 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: engine to like move my chest. You know. 431 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to feel like an eight twelve. 432 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: It's just not. But I also think this is a 433 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: different tool. This is this is a different tool. It's 434 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: just a different thing. It's not going to feel like 435 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, well, it's still yeah, and it still has 436 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: this X factor that you feel connected to the machine 437 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: and you feel like it's talking to you. You feel 438 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: like there's a conversation and an exchange with the car 439 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: that you are constantly adjusting for and responding to and 440 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: relating to, which I really like. It has a soul. 441 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: It has I mean, that's the important part. And I've 442 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: found that in smaller motors lately, you know, like I 443 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: was saying the other day, the BMW five thirty with 444 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: only an in line four. I was having a great 445 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: conversation with that motor. So it doesn't have to be big, 446 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: it just had to be done right. And there are 447 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: V six is that, you know, the the Ford Bronco Raptor, 448 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: even the even the Base Bronco with a two point 449 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: seven liter V six. I like that motor and I 450 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: love the Raptor V six. So there are some exceptions, 451 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: but I just feel like Ferrari should be either the 452 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: screaming flat plane V eight or a twelve cylinder. But 453 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: I obviously haven't driven. 454 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: I predict that. I predict that you have a two 455 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: nine six in your future, a drive in it. I 456 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: do predict this will happen, and I bet you will 457 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: really like it. And you know, look, there's a there's 458 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: a brand that has made its made its money on 459 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: flat six engines, and you know we don't complain. 460 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: About that, No, they scream, I love them, right, yeah, right, 461 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: So okay, let me ask one other thing, which I'm 462 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: glad you mentioned the Porsia, because Porsia, I think, does 463 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: this right where a lot of other luxury carmakers do 464 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: it wrong. And it's ironic because Porschas are more affordable 465 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: than for a Lamborghini or an Aston Martin or any 466 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: of the you know you think of it. The big 467 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: six figure they have for the most part, these big 468 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: motors and these beautiful designs, which I think to some 469 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: extent justify their price tags, and also usually plush interiors. 470 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: But they all, with the exception of Portia, seem to 471 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: have a big giant fail when it comes to infotainment, 472 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: Like they can't do the electronics in tier on the 473 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: interior right for the most part. And I haven't driven 474 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: a lot of Ferrari, so I don't know how they 475 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: are at this. If I bought a new Porsche, the 476 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: infotainment's gonna be seamless, and it's gonna be intuitive, yes, 477 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna love it. 478 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: It's not gonna get in the way. 479 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: Whereas with Lamborghini, like the Hurricane Serrato that I drove 480 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: was like my favorite car ever. But if I'm driving 481 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: from Manhattan back to Westchester in traffic and I want 482 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: to listen to The Grateful Dead and I can't figure 483 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: out how to stream it from my phone, that's really 484 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: annoying on a four hundred thousand dollars car. 485 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: And dangerous because it's distracting. Yeah, yeah, you're You're one 486 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: hundred percent right. I'm not in love with Ferrari's and fotainment. 487 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: It is distracting, it's not intuitive. You have to go 488 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: through multiple layers of icons to get to simple things 489 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: like the radio. You know, Ferrari this two ninety six 490 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: on the steering wheel, you control it, You control like audio. 491 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: You control everything with your thumb on a touchpad, which 492 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: is really distracting and not intuitive. So I am not 493 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: a fan at all. And I think someone said to me, 494 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, as basically with Italians all weekend. Someone said 495 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: to me, uh, Italians are great at making simple things complex. 496 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: And that may be true. Yeah, and we love them 497 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: for it. The thing is, they're so charming and fun 498 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: that we forgive them for everything. But it does seem 499 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: to be really a low point of an otherwise great car. 500 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I don't think for Lamborghini 501 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: is much better. And I also think it's like it 502 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: feels like an afterthought, like if you're really a serious 503 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: car person, you should just never listen to the radio 504 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: and only listen to the engine. Ever, and that's what every. 505 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: Forum commentor says. I just listened to motor Find dude, 506 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: if you're stuck in traffic. 507 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, completely, So I think it is. It does feel 508 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: like it's an afterthought. And you know that these cars 509 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: are so great and fast and sporty that you really 510 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: don't need any entertainment anyway, and you really shouldn't even 511 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: have a cup holder or be drinking coffee in the car. 512 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: You should only be driving in silence, you know, which 513 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: I just don't agree with. And yeah, Porsche. 514 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: Really nails it when they have a transmission tunnel that 515 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: has like fifty buttons on it. I love it. I 516 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: love it all right. Listen, let's let's put a pin 517 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 2: in this because next week we're going to talk about 518 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: Aston Martin's and a couple of Aston. 519 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Martin's dueling Aston Martins. 520 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that we've driven and I'm thinking there may be 521 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: stark differences, but we should also ask people to email 522 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: us with their thoughts. Does the entertainment matter? Do you 523 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: like the new design of Ferrari that kind of breaks 524 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: with their avant garde tradition? Like, there's so much I'd 525 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: love to hear from our listeners. So the email address. 526 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: Is hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. That's hot Pursuit 527 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot net. And yeah, who makes your favorite 528 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: infertainment system? I'd love to know that in general? 529 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, who makes your favorite entertainment system? 530 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: Mercedes is pretty good if you if you could tolerate 531 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: high screen count, high screen count, Mercedes is I mean, 532 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Mercedes is the most advanced, no question. 533 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: I think the n books agreed is Mercy's user experience 534 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: is this is the best. For a while, BMW's what 535 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: was it the eye drive system was so good and 536 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: then this new iteration They've made it so complex and 537 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: you've got to dig through modes in the screen. 538 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: That but they'll come back. 539 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: But Porsche's quite good as well. All right, that's all 540 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: we have time for this week, but I'm really looking 541 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: forward to hearing your impressions on Aston Martin. You went 542 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: to Sevilla and drove. 543 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: The advantage right, Yes, I did. 544 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're driving the dB twelve right. 545 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Now or I'm getting it tomorrow morning. Okay, So I 546 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: and you got it this week? 547 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, also twelve cylinders, which is amazing convertible. I 548 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: love it. But interesting entertainment and experiencing. That's all for 549 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: this week. We'll see you back here next Week's same time, 550 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: same place. I'm Matt Miller and 551 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Bloomberg