1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to an on location edition of Packers Unscripted. We 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: are here in Cincinnati, a day ahead of the Packers 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: pre season opener against the Cincinnati Bengals. I am Mike 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: Spaffer from Packers dot Com, joined as always not really 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: you by my trusted colleague Weston Hankowitz. We haven't done 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: the show next to each other for quite some time, 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: but we were here yesterday as well, West for the 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Packers joint practice with the Bengals, which was just outside 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: of pay Corp Stadium where the Bengals have their practice 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: facility and practice fields. 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: So I'll just. 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Throw it to you open ended at the beginning. What 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: were your impressions of that workout? 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, tough, physical, It was pretty much everything I kind 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: of expected it to be with the joint practice, especially 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: when you look at the Cincinnati Bengals both offensive and 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: defensive lines. They've put a lot of resources into those 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: two spots, and I felt like you saw some really 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 3: good competitive work between the two teams. Certainly from Jordan 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: Love's perspective, I think that was probably the most beneficial 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: of everything he got those reps in with Christian Watson. 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: We saw the fifty yard touchdown during one of the 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 3: team periods. Over to Romeo Dobbs, they're looking to build 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: up the synergy of this group right now, and every 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: rep matters, so we don't know exactly how this is 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: gonna work out. On Friday night, there was some overtures 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: made that maybe Jordan plays in this game. Maybe we 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: do see the starters out there. I think it was 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: Pete Doherty if I remember correctly, that asked Matt about 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: what does this mean about David BACTERI he was Bill 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: or somebody, I forget who it was. 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean David's gonna go. He's like, David won't golden, right, 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: He's like, well, why would you say that? Right? 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: So, I just feel like with this team right now 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: and where they're at, I don't think you can go 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: wrong either way with how they deploy their preseason starters 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: in this thing. But I really felt like that practice 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: against the Bengals. It got heated at times, but I 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: felt like it really good work for this football team. 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing that really stood out to me Wes 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: was watching the guys in the trenches because that Cincinnati 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: defensive line, that defensive front that is that is a 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: as Larry would like to say assaulty bunch, right, I 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: mean those guys, Sam Hubbard, Trey hendrickson DJ Reader like 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: that is you can see why this Cincinnati defense has 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: been one of the best in the AFC and in 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: the entire NFL the last couple of years. These guys 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: got to a Super Bowl a couple of years ago, 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: back to an AFC championship last year. I thought it 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: was really really good work for the Packers offensive line 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: and comment I believe John Runyon made a comment to you, yeah, 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: to you after practice because one of the things that 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: was so beneficial about this work that the offensive line 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: got is this Cincinnati defensive line is built differently than 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: the Packers. So the Packers have a lot of, as 57 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: Runyon said, a lot of quick, quick twitch, and you know, 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: gap shooting type of guys. This Cincinnati defensive line is 59 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: built on power and they just they play the differently. 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: Their bodies are built differently, and it was a great 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: change of pace for the Packers' offensive line to get 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: them ready for a different opponent, even if those may 63 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: not be the guys who were out there on Friday 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: night in the Price Season Open, but this is about 65 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: getting ready for the regular season. 66 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: Well, one of the points John made too after practice, 67 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: I didn't even think about it this way. It's not 68 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: like they were going to go down and break down 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: all this film on the defensive front of Cincinnati. Obviously 70 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: you have an idea what Trey Hendrickson can do and 71 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: DJ Reader these guys, but it was mostly about adjusting 72 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: and relying on your technique and your fundamentals. And you're 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: gonna need to do that through the course of a season. 74 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: You're not gonna have every single aspect of an opponent scouted. 75 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to make some in game adjustments. And 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: that's where John felt like it was very beneficial for 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: him in this group. For me personally, I also thought 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: seeing how the Packers stepped up to that, you know, 79 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: we'll just talk about it quickly now. The Elton Jenkins 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: little scuffle that he had sure starting with Pratt and 81 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: then going over with Reader later in practice. You know, 82 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: as John said, he's like one of the things, you know, 83 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: Mattleflore's talking about. We're all out here trying to build 84 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: some chemistry, right, trying to build some team camaraderie. Seeing 85 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: the way guys stepped up in those instances, certainly you 86 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: don't want it to get physical. There was the agreement 87 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: beforehand there won't be physicality. There's gonna be no fighting. 88 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: But it is pro football. It's not badminton. I mean, 89 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: these guys think about it. You and your family members, brothers, siblings, 90 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: what have you. You're out playing football in the backyard, 91 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: You're you're rough housing and wrestling in the house. If 92 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: you compete, it's going to bring the fire out, and 93 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: sometimes that fire ignite. So I wasn't really put off 94 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: by that at all. I mean, obviously it made for 95 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: some good headlines and the media and some good interview 96 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: questions and the postgame post practice locker rooms. But Elton Jenkins, 97 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, man, he's a guy since the 98 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: day he got here. 99 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: You want to be in the foxhole with these kind 100 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: of kids. 101 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: I mean, they are the guys that are going to 102 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: step up and they're going to own their situation and 103 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: they're not going to back down. And you know, with 104 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: John mentioning that, I thought all of that was very 105 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: important because you're seeing, both on the field and off 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: the field, the way the team has to carry itself. 107 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: And maybe the most important comment that run you and 108 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: made in that little media scrum we had afterwards, was 109 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: you know, we know how good the Cincinnati Bengals are. 110 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: They're going to be again one of the top teams 111 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: in the AFC, especially once Joe Burrow gets back. Sure, 112 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: Packers still feel like they're a pretty darn good football 113 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: team too, even though there might be so many people 114 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: questioning them. You have to rise to those challenges. I 115 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: felt like Green Bay did that during that joint practice. 116 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and everybody's asking, of course, you know, how did 117 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: Jordan Love and the number one offense look against a 118 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: defense like Cincinnati. Well, I think predictably, there were a 119 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: lot of ups and downs in the practice. You mentioned 120 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: the long touchdown pastor Romeo Dobbs absolutely perfect on the 121 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: money deep ball from Jordan Love there, but earlier he 122 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: had had an overthrown deep ball. He had another underthrown 123 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: deep ball. He hit a Christian Watson on a great, 124 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: you know, deep crossing route on one play, hit Jayden 125 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: Reid on a really nice underneath crosser where they got 126 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: to the rookie from Michigan State the ball in space. 127 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: But there are also times where he was under pressure, 128 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: had to move in the pocket, had to take the checkdowns. 129 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: Everything was thrown at at Jordan Love. In this practice, 130 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals were blitzing like they sent a slot 131 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: corner here and there. Aj Dillon had to pick up 132 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: a blitz or or the running back had to help, 133 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: you know, provide the chip, help on the edge rusher 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson for example, coming off the edge, and then 135 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: allow Jordan Love to get the ball downfield. Everything was there, 136 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: and a practice like this, there's so much more that 137 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: number one offense is going to see compared to anything 138 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: you're going to get in the preseason games, as important 139 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: as those reps will be. With the Packers having such 140 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: a young offense and trying to figure things out this practice, 141 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: with the Bengals having all of their ones out there, 142 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: that was really good work. 143 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: And that door swings both ways, right because when you 144 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: were watching some of the offensive stuff, I went over 145 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: to the other field watching the defense. Green Bay was 146 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: throwing the same type of looks at Trevor Simmon and 147 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: Jake Browning. Over on Cincinnati's side of things. We saw 148 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: corner blitz as we saw guys coming on stunts. This 149 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: is the type of stuff you're not going to say, 150 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: see in a preseason game, right, Sean Clifford after it saying, 151 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: you know there's gonna be a lot of vanilla ice 152 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: stream out there. I love that line because in these settings, 153 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: that's where you got to let it all loose. And 154 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: when you go back to the original first practice we 155 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: saw against the Houston Texans now four years ago, when 156 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and people talked about not really liking these things, 157 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: it was because it was almost like an extension of 158 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: the preseason, except you're also getting guys like Jake uh 159 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: whatever his name was, the uh Jake Sternberg, Sternberger, Stenberger Stormberger, 160 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: the other tight end we have. 161 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: But but situations like that where guys are getting hurt, right, yeah, 162 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: you don't want that. 163 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: As Runyan said after practice, nobody got hurt. Everything was professional, 164 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: And I think that is the key right now in 165 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: these type of practices is getting in that type of 166 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: stuff and making sure that you get back to the 167 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: huddle afterwards fine and okay and moving forward. This was 168 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: the type of practice, as David Baktiari said afterwards, when 169 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: you were a part of that scrum, it kind of 170 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: if you had some questions about joint practices and the 171 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: value of them. At first, I think these are the 172 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: type of situations I kind of show you the true 173 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: benefit of it. 174 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 175 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And as far as the Packers defense is concerned, 176 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask because you mentioned it on our 177 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: three Things segment that we did with Larry after practice. 178 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: Jay R Alexander was not participating in the eleven on eleven. 179 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: He was just doing individual drills yesterday. So the rookie 180 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: seventh round pick, Carrington Valentine out of Kentucky, he was 181 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: the one running with the ones, you know, for the 182 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: Packers against Cincinnati's number one offense, granted without Joe Burrow, 183 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: but Carrington Valentine continues to show that A he belongs 184 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: in the NFL, and B He's going to have a 185 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: role somewhere somehow on this defense. 186 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: I really think so in Mike, what's funny to me 187 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: is that, you know, I'm no type of soothsayer at all, 188 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: but I remember just in the OTA's telling you, like 189 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: when he was going up against when JayR wasn't there 190 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: and Rasulle Douglass wasn't there, and these young corners had 191 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: to go in with the one defense against Jordan Love 192 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: and that offensive group and the weapons and the speed 193 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: and everything that the Green Bay possesses. 194 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Valentine was out there. 195 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: They gave him a chance to go out there and 196 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: go up against Romeo Dobbs, and that kid did not 197 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: back down. This guy, I believe is the youngest player 198 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: on this football team. Talking to him, I feel like 199 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: I'm one hundred and fifty years old. I mean, he 200 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: legitimately looks like, you know, a kid, but he also 201 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: plays with such an enthusiasm, in a humbleness and a 202 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: confidence that I think is critical at that position. I've 203 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: said it so many times, Mike, and at some point 204 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: I'll stop doing it. But that mel kiper assessment it 205 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: stood in my head ever since Draft night. How how 206 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: is this kid still there in the seventh round. I 207 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: get it he had one pick or whatever at Kentucky. 208 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: But the fact of the matter is there's certain guys 209 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: that go out there and are not scared of the spotlight. 210 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: Valentine is one of them. 211 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: Yes it's not Joe Burrow, but that's still Jamar Chase, 212 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: that's still t Higgins. These are one of the best 213 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: receiving contingents in the National Football League, and they're trying 214 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: to make you look bad. 215 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: They're trying to win their routes. 216 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: Valentine didn't let it happen, especially when they did some 217 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: stuff down in the red zone. The Green Bay Packers, 218 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: I think one of the things is you look at 219 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: how good they are at the top of their cornerback room, 220 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: right especially once Eric Stokes comes back. But how quickly 221 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: that that can get really and be able to get 222 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: the injuries and stuff. 223 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: You need six seven guys to navigate a season. 224 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: Carrenton Valentine, I don't know if it's week one, I 225 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: don't know when it'll be, maybe not even the season, 226 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: but I think he showed enough that the Greenmit Packers 227 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 3: have to feel really good about that pick. 228 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's gonna he's a local kid, right, you know, 229 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: went to high school here in the Cincinnati area, went 230 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: to went to college just across the border in Kentucky. 231 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: And he'll be making his NFL preseason debut against the 232 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. And the same goes for the Packers number 233 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: two quarterback Sean Clifford. Big star here at quarterback in 234 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati area, and now he'll be making his his 235 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: NFL preseason debut in the stadium where he I believe 236 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: he had told you he had season six his senior 237 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: year of high school. Parents has season tickets for the 238 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: for the Bengals. He and his brother, his younger brother 239 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: who's also now at Penn State where Sean Clifford was 240 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: a star quarterback. So this is uh uh, it's it's 241 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: a really neat opportunity for both for both of those 242 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: young men to be back here, you know, spending even 243 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: a couple of extra days with the joint practice and 244 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: everything else. 245 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: It's starting to sprinkle west. 246 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: So it doesn't bother It doesn't bother you, that gamer, 247 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: as long as this isn't thundering, I'm really tough. 248 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll we'll keep plowing through and I'll 249 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: I'll take care of some sponsored business here in the meantime. 250 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: So serious XM NFL Radio. 251 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Delivers hard hitting it. 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So 268 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you to help me write the story. 269 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: All right, So what is there to watch for in 270 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: this preseason opener at pay Course Stadium? 271 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: As I alluded to earlier, it sounds like Jordan Love 272 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: is going to play in this game. 273 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: Now. I'll believe it when everything's out there and we 274 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: see it. 275 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: I never like to draw false conclusions, but the fact 276 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: of the matter is matt Lefluor talked about before practice, 277 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 3: and Jordan also kind of alluded to it after practice. 278 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: The Greenmit Packers are taking a little bit of a 279 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: different prochare and I honestly don't. As I said, I 280 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: don't think you can go wrong either way. You have 281 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: a thirty nine year old quarterback like Aaron Rodgers who's 282 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: seen and done everything. 283 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: No problem. 284 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: Let's get the you know, let's get the young guys 285 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: in there. Let him take a break, get to week one. 286 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: Jordan Love needs every rep he can get, Mike. I 287 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: think it was something like, what was it, a one 288 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty snaps he's played to this point in 289 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 3: the regular season during his NFL career, Right, you want to. 290 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: Be able to actually get him work. It's a great 291 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: way to do it. Now. 292 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: Gotta keep the pocket clean, gotta keep these guys healthy. 293 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: But I feel like that's probably the thing to look 294 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: for is just seeing what that first team offense looks like. 295 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: Who gets deployed, how long are they out there, and 296 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: then when they're not out there, who's coming in there next. 297 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: With the receivers. 298 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: Bo Melton I think has had a phenomenal camp. A 299 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: guy that doesn't get talked about nearly enough, right, I 300 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: think you look at guys like Malik Heath who was 301 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: sort of this undrafted guy that did some good things 302 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: down in Mississippi, but for whatever reason, doesn't get picked 303 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: and as he told us last week after family and Night, 304 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: he has a list of everybody that was picked before. 305 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: I mean he knows all of them in, knowing exactly 306 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: what all their situations were, in him believing that he 307 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: should have been picked too. There are three really good 308 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: receivers at the top of this step chart right now, 309 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: right three guys I think are probably gonna be your 310 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: Week one starters in Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, and Jayden Reid. 311 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: But Samori two Rays stepped up, Melton Heath. These young receivers, 312 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: the quarterback that they're in there with, they've put some 313 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: good film on tape for these Packers coaches. Now it's 314 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: going to be about putting that forward against the Cincinnati Bengals. 315 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. 316 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: And I think the other things to watch too is 317 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: we've been seeing the safety competition take shape for a 318 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: while through training camp. Rudy Ford was running with the 319 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: ones alongside Darnell Savage. Now it seems to have shifted 320 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: to Jonathan Owens. But you know how this goes. Somebody 321 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: makes a big play, has a really good preseason game, 322 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: then we go to the practice field next week. In 323 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: the depth chart is shifted around a little bit, so 324 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: you never know what can happen there. And then also 325 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: with regard to special teams, there's a lot going on 326 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: on special teams with this group. You've got a rookie kicker, 327 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: You've got a punting competition, you have a long snapper competition. 328 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: You got all kinds of young guys trying to state 329 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: their case to Rich Basaci that they should be on 330 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: the field on kickoffs and punts and whatnot. So there's 331 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot to watch here. And this is just the 332 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: first of three preseason games. But since your classes are 333 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: starting to get covered in rain. 334 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: Drops, can I say one thing before we leave? Yeah, 335 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: I feel terrible about that Jake Sternberger thing. I mean 336 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: that kidd I honestly, goodness forgot his name. 337 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: That's gonna bother me. 338 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: If they were back home, we would tell them to 339 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: cut it or we're not going to be able to 340 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: do that. But again, it just that's me one of 341 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: the things that's gonna hat a little bit. When I 342 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: look at the tape and look at the mas from 343 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: this appearance of Unscripted, that's gonna be high on that list. 344 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, well, when we do another episode 345 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: like this, we'll get it cleaned up. 346 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go take a shower and then maybe just 347 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: throw a towel on. 348 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: This ended up raining a lot more than I thought 349 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: it was going to. 350 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you were the one who said let's just 351 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: stay out here instead of going the hotel. 352 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: Fine, all right, Well, dude, back in the day when 353 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: I have to use to shoot some of my stuff 354 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: for Packers News and the Green Bay Press casette, we 355 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: did this thing in like four degree weather, in freezing 356 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: rain off the shore of Lake Michigan and Chicago. Pete 357 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: Doherty and Mike Vandermoss both got sick. They actually had 358 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: to miss work the next day after that game, and 359 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: I was the only one that was left standing. 360 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: These bones are tough, all right. 361 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: This has been the best episode to date, by the way, 362 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: take us home with another agreed that. 363 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: No, actually, I don't know, maybe another ambulance will go 364 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: by while I'm trying to sign off, because we are 365 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: gonna call it a wrap on this edition of Packers 366 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: Unscripted's from Cincinnati. 367 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 368 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: preseason opener from pay Course Stadium. We've got it all 369 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: for you on Packers dot Com. For Wes I am Mike, 370 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in everybody, and we will in 371 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: drier settings. 372 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: See you next time.