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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationships and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 2: a sibling.

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Speaker 3: Railvalry. No, no, sibling, you don't do that with your

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Speaker 3: mouth ravelry.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 3: So I read this book How to Ekey Guy. It

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Speaker 3: was like a random book.

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Speaker 1: I kind of punched in Google top ten self help

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Speaker 1: books to read, and How the Ekey Guy came up,

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Speaker 1: and so I started to read it and I got

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Speaker 1: obsessed with it, and so we reached out to Tim

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Speaker 1: Thomas Shiro is the author of this book, How to

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Speaker 1: Ekey Guy, and uncovered what what it is.

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Speaker 5: Well, I thought, I thought you sent it to me,

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Speaker 5: and I looked at the title how the Ekey Guy,

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Speaker 5: and I thought it was like a dance move. So

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, had an Ekey Guy. And it

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Speaker 5: turns out it's not.

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Speaker 2: Definitely not it's not.

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Speaker 1: Well, it could be if it's your Ekey Guy, but

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Speaker 1: exactly your easy Guy is a dancement.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah No. We'll let Tim explain

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Speaker 5: to you sort of what it is when you're listening

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Speaker 5: to this, But it has to do with sort of

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Speaker 5: finding your purpose in life and doing what you love

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Speaker 5: to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he got us to look at what ours was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean it just it's defining success.

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Speaker 2: What is success to you? What is happiness to you?

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Speaker 2: What is balanced to you? Everyone?

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Speaker 5: Everyone's ekey guy is a little bit different, but it was.

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Speaker 5: It was inspirational. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also it's a night.

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Speaker 1: It creates like a very good halfway to understanding what

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Speaker 1: your purpose is, you know, and that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: it doesn't come with challenges or complications and all of

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Speaker 1: the things that life brings, but it does mean that

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Speaker 1: you are actively doing the things that you love.

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Speaker 5: Right anyway, check out Tim, Tim Thomas Shiro you dig it.

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Speaker 2: Happy you guys. Hi Tim, Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Mee you?

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Speaker 4: It's a pleasure to meet you. I've been excited about

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Speaker 4: hanging out with the Hudson kids for a long time now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah we are if we're forty year old children, that's

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Speaker 5: for sure, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad we finally are able to make this happen.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much for inviting me. But I

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Speaker 4: got to tell you, you know, you two are exactly

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Speaker 4: the kind of friends that I would have had when

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Speaker 4: I was growing up. I think this is just lovely

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Speaker 4: that evened me on. So thank you. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You're really welcome.

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Speaker 1: I want to first tell you about how I just

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Speaker 1: I literally discovered you and your book how to Ekey Guy,

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Speaker 1: because I went on a list of books of like

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Speaker 1: that you must read. It was a must read booklist,

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Speaker 1: and it said how to Ekey Guy, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that looks really interesting.

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Speaker 5: She thought it was a new dance see the dance

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Speaker 5: of the Ekey Guy dance.

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Speaker 1: Well as as someone who is currently partnered with a

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Speaker 1: half Japanese man and my daughter's Japanese, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm very always intrigued with any anything that has anything

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Speaker 1: to do with Japan and and my man is from

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Speaker 1: his family is Oki Nawa.

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Speaker 3: So oh wow.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I mean you know these third Honeywood, you

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Speaker 1: third generation, fourth generation America.

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Speaker 4: Generation, but I'm second, I'm second generation.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, well, and I got into it,

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Speaker 1: and then I started reading your book and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Ekey Guy is for me. Was like there was something

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Speaker 1: about it that was just sort of eye opening because

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Speaker 1: I think you say it in the book. It's all

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Speaker 1: about how life purpose is a really difficult thing to

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Speaker 1: process with ekey guy. It sort of gives you a

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Speaker 1: more sort of like uh, fundamentals to follow, you know,

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Speaker 1: as to how you're living your life.

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Speaker 5: She actually, so to speak, she actually sent it to

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Speaker 5: our family thread. We have a family thread called Family Affair,

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Speaker 5: and she sent the book to the thread and that's

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Speaker 5: how I got interested in it.

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Speaker 4: And that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it made me rethink my entire life, which I

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Speaker 5: don't know is a good they're a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's you know, it is a fundamental question though,

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Speaker 4: isn't it all of her?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, no, I know, I know. I mean I

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Speaker 5: have questioned this and we're going to get into all

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Speaker 5: of it in a minute. But just my own personal experience,

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Speaker 5: I always question sort of what I do for a living. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I love it, but it is it is it a

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Speaker 5: passion of mine? Not necessarily you know, do what you love,

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Speaker 5: do what you're good at, do what the world needs.

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Speaker 2: You know. I think I can check off a couple

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Speaker 2: of those boxes.

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Speaker 5: But you know, it's it makes me think about if

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Speaker 5: I am doing the thing that I am supposed.

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Speaker 2: To be doing.

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Speaker 1: And Tim, for me, your entry into this was really

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Speaker 1: just talking about your life. And you're a musician, and

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Speaker 1: I consider myself a musician, and I haven't been living

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Speaker 1: my Ekey Guy like I haven't been living that path.

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Speaker 1: So there is something that for me was like a

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Speaker 1: light bulb that went off when I read that book

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Speaker 1: because you sort of entered it through music, which made

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Speaker 1: it very relatable for me.

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Speaker 3: But let's start. Let's start with Tim.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you introduce yourself and let's talk about really

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Speaker 1: like how you got to writing this book how.

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Speaker 3: To Ekey Guy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, my name was Tim Tammashiro. I'm fifty seven

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Speaker 4: years old and I've been living my Ekey Guy since

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Speaker 4: I was about maybe twenty one years old when I

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Speaker 4: kind of figured out, Oh, what the heck am I

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Speaker 4: wait a second. I was supposed to have fun in life,

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Speaker 4: and I was supposed to do the things that I

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Speaker 4: love to do and the things that I'm good at.

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Speaker 4: So you know, the the interesting thing about doing that

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Speaker 4: is that I grew up in a very very small town,

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Speaker 4: So I was always considered different, but you know, I

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Speaker 4: Why not? So when I was about twenty years old,

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Speaker 4: You know, that's like that's it's a thankless job, by

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Speaker 4: little bit of a singer. So I decided right there

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Speaker 4: started off this incredible cascade of events that have been

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Speaker 4: just an extraordinary string of just wonderful life experiences. You

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Speaker 4: in you know, the How would you describe Hollywood?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Is it a dream making place or a dream crushing place?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A little bit more than dream making, but yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: but when you do, then it's you know.

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Speaker 5: Well, Hollywood, it's dream making and then crushing within a year,

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Speaker 2: I mean it can be.

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Speaker 5: Honestly like, you can have a job and you're on

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Speaker 2: Now it's like, okay, how the identity is?

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Speaker 4: Now the identity is? You're scratching your head, going now

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Speaker 4: what right? So what I've discovered about Ekey Guy is that, uh,

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Speaker 4: Ekey Guy comes from okinologypan where my grandparents are from.

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Speaker 4: And I've always had that incredible sense that I would

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Speaker 4: say it was almost part of my DNA that Ekey

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Speaker 4: enough to have this extraordinary life of doing all these

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Speaker 4: do it. So I've been I've been a major label

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Speaker 4: also I also I just I'm scheduled now to I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, see, that's the thing that I loved that I

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Speaker 1: took so much from your book, which was that it's

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Speaker 1: really like life, purpose or whatever, that that thing is

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Speaker 1: for you. It doesn't matter where you're doing it or

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Speaker 1: what is like you said, like success and how it's measured.

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Speaker 1: It's not that it's not accolades, it's not money and

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Speaker 1: granted for me, I think people would say, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's easy for you to say because you know I

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Speaker 1: have the means. But at the same time, it's like,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much money you have if you're

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Speaker 1: not living, If you're not living what makes.

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Speaker 3: You happy, then what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: And like I sometimes think that I would.

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Speaker 1: I could be in a restaurant with no one listening,

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Speaker 1: with a piano player and sing all night long and.

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Speaker 2: Be so I'm collect like you'd sing that song.

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Speaker 3: And I'd be and I'd be happy. I'd be like

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Speaker 3: living my weird eke.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question, though, So in your

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Speaker 2: To change your life.

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Speaker 4: Well, I literally say, Eke Guy is a lifestyle that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, because because you're talking about there's there.

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Speaker 4: You can they? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Right, I've been thinking about this, like I love I

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Speaker 5: There's a connectedness to something much bigger obviously, and there

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Speaker 5: I am an actor for hire. I do network television shows.

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Speaker 5: I just nothing phased me, and I was thinking, Man,

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Speaker 5: Being a director, yeah, you know, and creating something my vision,

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Speaker 4: No I can't understand, but that is, but that's connection

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Speaker 4: to you know. So yeah, like I say, you know,

444
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Speaker 4: you've talked about all these great passions and whatnot, but

445
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 4: it all comes back down to connection, connection with people,

446
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: and washing away whatever it is that you're that you

447
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: can wash away. But I would I would invite you

448
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 4: to just pay attention to that action of to connect.

449
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: You know what does that mean, nikky guy can be

450
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: a can be like a multifaceted jewel that you can

451
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 4: look at it from a million different ways. Yes, I

452
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 4: want to connect with my family, I want to connect

453
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 4: with my kids, want to connect with my friends, I

454
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 4: want to connect with nature. I want to do all

455
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 4: this sort of stuff. And if that is something that

456
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: resonates with you, I really invite you to just kind

457
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 4: of think about that and and see if there's other

458
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: ways that connection matters to you, to make films or

459
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,719
Speaker 4: something along those along those lines, but regardless, it's going

460
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 4: to be something that is that is h an action

461
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 4: that you can immediately wake up in the morning and go, well,

462
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: I know what I get to do today? It would

463
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Speaker 4: be me.

464
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Speaker 1: I love the connecting because that is so you Like,

465
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Speaker 1: you know, I was a lot.

466
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: I was our family.

467
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of how we grew up as well. But

468
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: like to connect, Like if you think about everything that

469
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: you love to.

470
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: Do, because.

471
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: When we get into mind, it's going to be so

472
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: different because acting's actually quite singular. You have to connect

473
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: obviously to something like deep inside of yourself. But it's

474
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: a much it's not it's not an outwardly it is shared.

475
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: But like when you're learning or you're like in the.

476
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: Craft and you're you know, you know you you have

477
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: to like go into this place that is quite lonely.

478
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: There's something that feels kind of singular about it.

479
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 2: Totally. Sure, Well we'll let's do you real quick.

480
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: Well are we done with you?

481
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: Yeah?

482
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 3: Well what so?

483
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 4: So spend some time I would invite you to just

484
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 4: spend some time around that, around that word connect to

485
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 4: connect that action. And if it doesn't work for you,

486
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 4: start looking around for a word that is maybe in

487
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 4: the same ballpark. Open that thesaurus, you know, crack open

488
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 4: the phone and start looking through the for words that

489
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 4: might that might connect with you, that is some sort

490
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 4: of a verb uh, and and that maybe you can

491
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 4: you know, steer you towards what it is that you

492
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: really love to do. Now I need to make a

493
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: point though, you know, there's a big difference between your

494
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: job and your work. Right, your job is something that

495
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 4: you do in order to be able to earn an income.

496
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: Your work is something that you do to achieve something

497
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 4: bigger and more more, uh like important, I guess, and

498
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: you are your work really, you know, So that is

499
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: that's something that's really important in terms of just understanding

500
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 4: the day to day kind of stuff. Yeah, you're gonna

501
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 4: go and you're going to have your job, and you

502
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: might be able to include your work in it, right,

503
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 4: but you know, to be able to work on yourself

504
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: every day. That's that's absolutely huge.

505
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: I like that.

506
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 1: I love that that is true, especially for really creative people.

507
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean I personally think we say creative,

508
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: but I think everyone's creative. I think everyone has we

509
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: I mean, we are all created, so like we are

510
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: here to create, you know, and pro create. So I

511
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: think everyone has that whatever they are going to do

512
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: or whatever they like, whatever drives them is coming from

513
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: a creative place.

514
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what do you love to do?

515
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: What do I love to do? I love to sing.

516
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: I love to sing, I love to perform. I love

517
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: to dance anywhere anytime.

518
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: I love to work my body. I like to be active.

519
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: I also love to connect, but I also really love

520
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: being alone. I love being in quiet. That's charging though, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

521
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: but I really need it. You know.

522
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: It's like you don't have to like.

523
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: Disappear, and if I don't, I could go crazy, you know.

524
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay. And then to the job side. What is

525
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 4: it that you love about your job?

526
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: Everything?

527
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: I love the camaraderie when it's good. I love the

528
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: depth of connection intimacy I feel with other actors when

529
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: you're when you're in it with them. I love being

530
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: on a movie set. I love telling stories. I love

531
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: being able to give great directors that I have so

532
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: much respect for what they need. I love that feeling

533
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: of knowing that I'm bringing something to life for them

534
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: that they that they see. And then maybe hopefully when

535
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: you said delight, I love that because I love when

536
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: I can delight them with something new as well.

537
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: You know, I got can I just throw something in here? Yeah?

538
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: Everything that you just say here so far kind of

539
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 4: kind of points to delight.

540
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: Right, that's I mean, a good word, Yeah, I I

541
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: it is.

542
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: It's okay. You can you can share it with me

543
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: if you.

544
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: Want, I mean absolutely, I mean, I you know, yeah,

545
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean I I definitely delight or I also like

546
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: making people feel good, you know, like to lift, you know,

547
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: to like elevate.

548
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting.

549
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: I like to help people, you know, I like to

550
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: help people achieve.

551
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: Achieve. What do you have an example of that and

552
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 4: you'd be comfortable to share?

553
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

554
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Like in it just let's use a scene partner, and

555
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: let's say someone is struggling, like I want to be

556
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: there to help them get to the place they need

557
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: to get to. You know, I'm happy being delay up

558
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: for the dunk, you know, on.

559
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 5: That's a you mean that like the pass for the

560
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 5: doc like, yeah, you score on a layup?

561
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

562
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: Well, then what is maybe like an alley? Like do

563
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: you like to throw the alleue the alleu?

564
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: Right?

565
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: I like being the allius there you go. Okay, I'm

566
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: very happy being an alley. You surprisingly, I don't always.

567
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: Have to dunk, you know.

568
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, why can't that be your ekey guy? The alle

569
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 4: kind of value?

570
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: What a great name.

571
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: There's no there's no rules behind what a niky guy

572
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: can be. You know. I was. I talked with a

573
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: gentleman once and I said, what do you love to do?

574
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: Because I love to break things, and I would that

575
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: sounds like the best ekey guy. Ever, what do you do?

576
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: He says, I'm a software engineer. I like the break software.

577
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: But I've always broken things, like even through the time

578
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: that I was a kid. You know, I take apart

579
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: the radio or computer or whatever. Then I put it

580
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: back together see if it could could work better or whatever.

581
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: But so, you know, all, if that makes sense to you,

582
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: that's something you need to pay.

583
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: I feel like create, like I like to create, like

584
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: you think about the things like I've got my businesses,

585
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I've got my you know, development, I making my record, Like,

586
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm constantly creating things. So that's all, you know, you know,

587
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: I think the I think the thing that I don't

588
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: like is the is like what all like, I want

589
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: to create.

590
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: I just don't want to have to be like so

591
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: linear all the time.

592
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: M hm oh okay that hard part.

593
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to do that. I just don't want

594
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: it to be my job.

595
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what I mean, Like the job.

596
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: The job part is like joves you crazy, but the

597
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: work part is exciting.

598
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So is there something there that you see

599
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: you you kind of spiced up a little bit there

600
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 4: when you're talking about lyft, elevate, alley loop create you're

601
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: really in to just from the energy that I sensed

602
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: from you, that you're really into telling about how you're

603
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: just really passionate about everything about your job. You know,

604
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: to encompass, to to Oh gosh, I don't have a

605
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: fisaurus in front of me, but.

606
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: Develop, yeah, like enveloped, yeah, to be yes, immersed, immersion, immerse, yeah, yeah,

607
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think the right word.

608
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: I mean, immersion is actually really interesting, you know.

609
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: But then it's the thing is because I need more

610
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: of that, because that's when I'm the most.

611
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 5: Productive, right Because if you find your word, I'm sure

612
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 5: you can have multiple words too, But if you find

613
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: that word or that sense, then how do you implement

614
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 5: that into your everyday life?

615
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: You know?

616
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: If like if you're saying immersion, like, if if that

617
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: is your focus, how do you wake up and immerse yourself?

618
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: It means I'm going today is going to be about

619
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: my kids. I'm going to immerse.

620
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 5: Myself, right, maybe into a specific category of some to

621
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 5: dive in.

622
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, that's that's that sort of thing, like really

623
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: get into it.

624
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to go make music I'm going to

625
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: completely immerse myself and mm hmm.

626
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: Well something to say that there's something there for you.

627
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: I can see that you're really kind of thinking. That's

628
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: kind of what I do every day.

629
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: It's a verb and not like right a thing right.

630
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: It's funny.

631
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 5: It's funny when you said it was a verb, because

632
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: that was one of my questions. I was like, how

633
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 5: do you Is it an adjective?

634
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Is it a verb? Do you ekey guy or too

635
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: ekey guy? Or is it a noun? You know what

636
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: I mean? But I guess it is a verb.

637
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: You Yeah, they're there are actions that kind of encompassed

638
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 4: every every bit of the of the of the good

639
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: qualities and there and the great joy that you attain

640
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: out of life, you know. And it's different for everybody.

641
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: You know, an engineer might might have a different kind

642
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: of ekey guy than say a doctor. But but regardless,

643
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: you know, I've I've talked to all sorts of people

644
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: that of one gentleman was into as I was going

645
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: through this workshop with him and his colleagues, he said,

646
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: you know, I've been thinking about this the whole time

647
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 4: and he says, I always thought that my eke guy

648
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: was to collect. But he says it's not about collect

649
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: because he said, he gathered all these beautiful glass sculptures

650
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 4: and his house is filled with all these glass sculptures.

651
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: But then he.

652
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: Says, but now I'm giving them all away because I

653
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: don't really want them. He says, But now that I

654
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: think about it, I like to hunt them down. I said, well,

655
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: there's your ekey guys to hunt. He says. I'd love

656
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 4: to hunt everything. I love to hunt it down. So

657
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: you know, there's all sorts of ways to be able

658
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: to look at it and whatever inspires you. Ultimately, the

659
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: great thing is is that once you name your ekey guy,

660
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: that is the beginning to understanding it. Really, that is

661
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: that is the answer right there, because now you know,

662
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: tomorrow you might want to wake up Oliver and go, oh,

663
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: my eke guy to connect. I wonder if that's it,

664
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: you know, if it lifts you, you can kind of go,

665
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just connect with a bunch of people and

666
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: things and projects today. Just see what would have makes

667
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: you feeling.

668
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: No, it's cool because it's it seems to be fluid.

669
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: It's living and breathing in a sense, you know what

670
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: I mean. It's not just one solid thing that just

671
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 5: sticks in the ground like a monolith, like an Ekey

672
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: Guy monolith. It's moving, meaning a connectivity. Connectedness could mean

673
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: so many different things you know from day to day,

674
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 5: but it's just the overall of being connected to whatever

675
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 5: it is that you choose to do or make that

676
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 5: make a choice based on being connected, you know.

677
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, and can your ekey guy change?

678
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: Why not? There's no rules and lights that say that

679
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: you can't. Well, I guess really what it boils down to,

680
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: is it, you know, ekey guy, is really based on

681
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: your true authentic seuse you know. So you know, we're

682
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: kind of we are kind of fully formed now, you know.

683
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 4: But I could see how you know, when you're you know,

684
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: when you're ninety years old, maybe right to connect still

685
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 4: works for you, you know, and for you, k maybe

686
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 4: when you're ninety years old to immerse it still works

687
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: for you, you know. I mean, take a look at

688
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: your family and see what it is that they do.

689
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: Have they all always done.

690
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: Their parents Ekey guy, I don't know.

691
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 5: But but now I'm going into my whole psychology just

692
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 5: about connection, right and just about how hard it always

693
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: has been for me to truly connect because of vulnerability

694
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 5: issues and you know what I mean, Like, now I'm going.

695
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: Deeper into this whole thing.

696
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe myself, yeah, you know, maybe it is really

697
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: your eky guy, your true authentic self is to connect deeper, deeper.

698
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 4: But then we now, oh that's interesting.

699
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: Then there's do what you're good at?

700
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: So how so okay, so does that also like I'm

701
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: good at like always good at connecting or is that

702
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,240
Speaker 1: what that means?

703
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: Or do what you're good at? Is the actual.

704
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Monolith, so to speak, is that like, you know, I'm

705
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: good at cooking, so I should be actively pursuing that

706
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: desire and that love for cooking.

707
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: Well, the interesting thing is that once you figure out

708
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 4: what you love to do, that's the second question you

709
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: ask yourself, is am I good at that?

710
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 5: Right?

711
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: Right? So it's and it's almost like it's almost like

712
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 4: those two questions are kind of co answers of each other.

713
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: And the wonderful thing that I've seen happen with so

714
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 4: many people that I've done this exercise with is that

715
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 4: they go through that do what you love and do

716
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 4: what you're good at, and they kind of go, yeah,

717
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: that's me, and then they start asking them or start

718
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: noticing rather that, oh, you know what the world does

719
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: need that the world really does need more of me, right,

720
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: And when I do that authentic action on a regular basis,

721
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: they say thank you all the time, and that just

722
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: gives me more fuel to just kind of make it

723
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: happen again and again and again. You know I mentioned

724
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: before that it's a boomerang. It really is so so

725
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: uh do you're good at kay? You know you've when

726
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: you said you love to sing, there is like a

727
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: whole different side of you that I certainly didn't really

728
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: know about. But boy, did that ever make your eyes

729
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: like sparkle. It was like disco balls in your eyes.

730
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: The trying out loud, it was amazing. So so is

731
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 4: it the act of singing that is important to you?

732
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: Or is it the act of emoting your own emotions

733
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: to people?

734
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 5: Or is it to do it just for yourself? To

735
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: break breaking it down basically, Yeah, why do.

736
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: You like to sing?

737
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: Because I get lost in it? Immerse immerse it's a

738
00:36:54,239 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: weird word. Get like immersed immersions couldn't immerse.

739
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: There's got to be a different word to look those

740
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 4: languages too.

741
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I'm definitely getting thesaurus out after this.

742
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 5: To immerse, Yeah, I have a question to switching gears

743
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 5: just a little bit, because you were twenty one when

744
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 5: you sort of discovered this not necessarily ekey guy. You

745
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 5: found that out later that it was you know, there

746
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 5: was actual word for it or a term.

747
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: DNA was just in it.

748
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 5: But do you I guess it's it's to each their own.

749
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 5: But do you have to take that jump that risk?

750
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 5: Meaning I have a good job, I'm making money. Maybe

751
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 5: I don't love it, but you know what, fuck it,

752
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 5: I'm just going to go all in and go do

753
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 5: the things that I want to do. You know, I

754
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 5: mean you have to be practical in your life. You

755
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 5: have to survive, right, Just sometimes doing the thing that

756
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: you love or that you might be good at isn't

757
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: a practical thing. And you know as far as survival

758
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 5: goes and just living in today's world.

759
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, you know.

760
00:37:59,400 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

761
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 4: Any introductory course of the beginner psychology at university will

762
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: tell you about Maslow's hierarchy of needs, right, and it's

763
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 4: based on a pyramid that basically says that we have

764
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: five essentials that we have to look after each day.

765
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: And it begins with you know, food and shelter, and

766
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: then safety and security, and then it goes into like

767
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: friends and connections, and then ego a little bit of

768
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: ego stuff. But at the very top of that pyramid

769
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: is self actualization, right, And what most people are able

770
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 4: to do throughout their lives is just focus on those

771
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 4: first four layers. And because it's terrifying when you think

772
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: about it. You know, to go a day without food

773
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 4: or shelter, my god, that would be terrifying. And even

774
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: without you know, your friends and family, if you had

775
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: absolutely no access to them or being able to be

776
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: known for something that it is that you're accomplishing in

777
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 4: your life, that might even be a little bit terrifying.

778
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: But that fifth level of that pyramid, that self actualization part,

779
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: is one thing that we have a tendency as human

780
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: beings to forget about. What I'm proposing with ekey guide

781
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: is that if we can place more attention on self

782
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: actualization and answering that question what do I love to do?

783
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: Why was I put on this earth? This gives us

784
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: a full life experience, like the fullest life experience. So

785
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 4: the interesting thing is, once you start actualizing more, the

786
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 4: less your need for things you know, expensive homes, fancy

787
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 4: sports cars, whatever the case, the less you needed that.

788
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 4: And I've even when I was at the monastery being

789
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: a monk wearing orange, I came up with this theory

790
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: that said, okay, wait a second. If you took that

791
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: whole idea of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, and you took

792
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: that whole pyramid and you flipped it upside down, That's

793
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: why monks are so happy is because all they do

794
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: all day is self actualize. So, you know, putting that

795
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 4: time and energy into yourself on a regular basis, regardless

796
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: of how much money it makes you, but focusing more

797
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 4: on how much joy it brings you. That's what I'm saying,

798
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 4: egy guy has the potential of doing. For there's people

799
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: who are very very lucky who do something called job crafting,

800
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: where even though their job description might not necessarily say

801
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: that you're going to do your ekey guy, you just

802
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: bring it and you just kind of included. I have

803
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: a friend who's a radio host and that's what she does.

804
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 4: There was nothing on her description that you know, she's

805
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: supposed to report traffic and weather in the mornings every day,

806
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: But what she did is she just Willy Nilly just

807
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: started a volunteer grouplet at the radio station. She said, well,

808
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: I got the air for two hours a day, I

809
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: might as well do some good with it. So she

810
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: started this beautiful thing called a do crew. Were basically

811
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: volunteers come together and they do you know, habitat for

812
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: humanity or harvest a community garden or whatever the case.

813
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: But it has nothing to do with their job description.

814
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 4: But that was so successful for her and she's so

815
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: happy doing it that now that's turned into six other

816
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: radio stations doing the exact same thing. So like job crafting,

817
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: job crafting is nice.

818
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like like my career like job crafted. Yeah,

819
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm like I think I'll start a company.

820
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's it's also fun to take your

821
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 5: brain and put it into a different place, you know

822
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 5: what I mean. It's yeah, because you're so focused on

823
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: one thing, and then it's nice to have your you know,

824
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: you're you're you're doing something, you're using a different part

825
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: of your brain.

826
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: What is that history though? Of ekey guy? Like it

827
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: comes from Okinawa? But like where does it? What is it?

828
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: Where does it come from?

829
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 4: There was a Uh, according to the research that I've done.

830
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: There was this wonderful group of women. Women know everything

831
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: that women know the most powerful there. You, women are

832
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 4: the most powerful, the smartest, and the most nurturing and

833
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 4: the most wonderful. So these these ladies, they were known

834
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 4: as Ama divers, and Amma divers are very prevalent throughout

835
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 4: Southeast Asia, Japan and China, Korea. And basically, these Amma

836
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 4: divers are women that would go down to the shore

837
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: and they had a specific work to do. They literally

838
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 4: went down and they jumped into the ocean butt naked

839
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: and took a wooden barrel out and floated it on

840
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: the on the surface of the ocean. And what they

841
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: do is they dive down as far as they could

842
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: and they'd gather food, swim back up and then put

843
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 4: it back into the into the tubs. And they were

844
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: really really good at this. You know, some of these

845
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: Ama divers. There are still Alma divers to this day,

846
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 4: but some of them, you know, in their eighties. And

847
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: they could hold their breath for like three minutes at

848
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: a time. But they gather up all these urchins and

849
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: sea cucumbers, whatever they could find, and they would put

850
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: it into this barrel and then they'd take it back

851
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: to the to the community, and they would really be

852
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 4: appreciated for their skill for doing this because it fed

853
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 4: the fed the community right the But the most beautiful

854
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: thing about this is that these ladies were the ones

855
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 4: that started calling it iki kai. Iki means life, Kai

856
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: means shell, so life's shell. Essentially, they're doing what they

857
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: love to do and they're good at it. So uh. Eventually,

858
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: over time it morphed into ike kai ekey guy rather uh,

859
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 4: which means life's worth. So you know, other people in

860
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: Okinawa started doing things that were you know that they

861
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: were really good now, whether it's woodworking or or teaching

862
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 4: or you know, learning martial arts or whatever the case.

863
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 4: So that's that's kind of kind of where it comes from.

864
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 4: It's life in a shell.

865
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: I want it's really beautiful.

866
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 5: Are there still eight year old naked women diving in

867
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: Okinawa for sea or Yeah?

868
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: There's yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's I'm sure there's

869
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: a few of them up here in Canada too. It's

870
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: just a little colder.

871
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it's like Ronnie in the in the

872
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: pool shoes are a little ama diver.

873
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: Cool.

874
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: What would be really interesting is if people started tod

875
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: if this was actually researched, like, is it researched like

876
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: people actually living? Guy?

877
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: Like from a scientific standpoint, right, I know that I

878
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: don't know of any specific studies, but I'll tell you what.

879
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: I could literally open up the internet right now and

880
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: go on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok and find you a thousand

881
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: people who are living there. Ekey guy right now, right,

882
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: you know, because you know that especially on TikTok, you know,

883
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: that's humanity in an application. You know, I love watching

884
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 4: TikTok because you know, not only do you get to

885
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: see Kate Hudson dancing around in your kitchen, but you

886
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: also get to see uh, you know, four hundred pound

887
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: male ballet stars that are exceptionally good what it is

888
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: that they do, or kids who photograph toy cars to

889
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: make them look like they're real cars with an iPhone

890
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 4: like that.

891
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: I know, that's crazy.

892
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: The vastness of humanity on TikTok especially shows people doing

893
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 4: what it is they love to do and what they're

894
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: good at. And I think it's I think that's I

895
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: think that's the most beautiful thing in the world.

896
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: But you said something really interesting.

897
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 5: It's the optimistic side of social media, you know, because

898
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 5: we all look at it as this negative platform. You know,

899
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 5: for the most part, of course we see the benefits

900
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 5: from it. But but when you are looking at through

901
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 5: that looking at it through that lens where you are,

902
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 5: it's a place to discover people doing, you know, what

903
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 5: they love and something that they're good at, and it's

904
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 5: a place for them to express that. That's pretty Uh,

905
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: that's an interesting perspective.

906
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: I wonder what living your eke guy does to and

907
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: for your self esteem?

908
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 5: Well, I think so you esteem a lot of it

909
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: is based on sort of the perception of you, of yourself,

910
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 5: so other people's person of you, right right, And I

911
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 5: think if you're living your Ekey Guy, then those things

912
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: might just go away because you are it doesn't matter,

913
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: doing what you love and you're happy about yourself and

914
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 5: you know, but I don't know, I'm as the professional.

915
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: Realgy boils down to happiness, right, That's our natural state.

916
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 4: Happiness is our natural state. And the things that take

917
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: us away from happiness or things like anger, greed, and delusions.

918
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 4: This is all ou to talk here now. So these

919
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 4: three things that yank us away from being happy all

920
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 4: the time. Ekey Guy is something that is essentially something

921
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: that is innate and something that we were born looking for.

922
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: Why was I born? Why? What is the special gift

923
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 4: that I have that I can do that nobody else

924
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: can do and that they can benefit from it? You know,

925
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 4: we're charitable beings. We want to do things that are

926
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: beneficial for others. That's the reason why we start businesses.

927
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: Right uh so, uh you know, in terms of being

928
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 4: able to just uh uh have greater well being, that

929
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: self actualization part of it and the ekey guy part

930
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 4: of it is absolutely essential. I'll tell you. There is

931
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: a lot of uh positive psychology studies based out of

932
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 4: University Pennsylvania or even the Oh have you guys taken

933
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: the Signs of well Being course from tell me.

934
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: My phone?

935
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: Is it online?

936
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: Yes? It's online? Yeah. So, and I talk about this

937
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: in my book, I think, but no, I can't remember.

938
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 4: I can't remember what I wrote my book. So it's

939
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: called the Science of well Being. So this is a

940
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: this is a course that's been put together by doctor

941
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: Lori Santos. This is the most popular course in the

942
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: history of Yale University, and it's been around for you know,

943
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: the eel has been around for three hundred years. So

944
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: doctor Santos put the course together and essentially the students

945
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: that Yale would call this doctor Santos's Happiness Class, and

946
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 4: they also called it the hardest class at Yale. And

947
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 4: what I love about this particular course is that doctor

948
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 4: Santos takes us through these steps and just basically say,

949
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 4: whatever we think, whatever we believe in our feeble human brain,

950
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 4: that's going to bring us happiness. It's wrong. We are

951
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 4: very very bad at guessing what is going to bring

952
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 4: us happiness. And if I could summarize the course down

953
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 4: to down to just what the takeaways are without giving

954
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 4: it away, yeah, but you can just I Binge watched

955
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 4: it. It was like a.

956
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: Through it.

957
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, so doctor Santos says, ah, acts

958
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 4: of kindness, Yeah, massive impact on your base level well being.

959
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: If you can go out and do something that is

960
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: kind and that can lift somebody else's spear every day,

961
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: good God, that is a good thing for you. So, Oliver,

962
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 4: you know when you say you love to laugh and

963
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 4: you love to make people laugh and all that kind

964
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: of stuff, that's an act of kindness, my friend. That

965
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 4: is something that you're doing out of generosity. So that's

966
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: that impacts your overall overall well being. But they also

967
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: make things like you know, physical uh efforts obviously, walking, running,

968
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 4: doing doing that kind of stuff that boosts the endorphins

969
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 4: in your brain. There's things like, oh, the one that

970
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 4: really made me get excited is something called time affluence.

971
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: That means you're time rich. That means you do with

972
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: your time you want to.

973
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: That's cool.

974
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: Do you do with your time what you want to

975
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 4: do with your time? Lokate.

976
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: I try, but the truth is.

977
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: I never really can because someone's always bothering me. Okay,

978
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: So like I'll be like I don't want to be

979
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: disturbed for like three days, but something will happen for

980
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: a long time. Someone will call and I'll have to

981
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: do something, and I will never get Like I literally

982
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: have to literally shut my phone off.

983
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: Let's start with three hours and then move from there

984
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 5: to three days, well like.

985
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: A weekend, Like I'll never get a real weekend.

986
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: You can choose to if.

987
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: I turn my phone off. Yeah, I have to. I

988
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: have to actively like turn my phone off, Like I

989
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: literally have.

990
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 4: To throw away.

991
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: I need to like get in the only time like

992
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: if I was like in Jeff Besis is rocket ship.

993
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: It's like the only time no one could get ahold

994
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: of me. Even then it'd be like Madeline will be like,

995
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: can you just get to kate for five seconds a space.

996
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 5: Like a space out the window, like pointing at like

997
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 5: some sort of thing.

998
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: Like ablets exactly like an in bloom Like okay, clear.

999
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, well regardless with with with with this course,

1000
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 4: uh the science of wellbeing. Uh. These are all studies

1001
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: that have come out of the relatively new field of

1002
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: positive psychology that basically says that, you know, instead of

1003
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: just treating psychology isn't always just about treating mental illness,

1004
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: it's also about increasing mental wellness. So positive psychology really

1005
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 4: focuses on these types of things like, uh, you know,

1006
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: time affluis, the acts of kindness, physical activities, connectedness with people,

1007
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 4: and eeky guy. It plays a role in that because

1008
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: it's helping you literally connect with your own self actualization

1009
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 4: on a regular basis, just by naming it.

1010
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I love the simplicity of that because sometimes also

1011
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: I think there's all these different things that we could

1012
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: be doing, like even what you're saying in this course,

1013
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: which by the way, I think everyone should be doing

1014
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: things like that, but it's hard for people to focus.

1015
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: Their time and energy.

1016
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: You know, I find I by nature am optimistic, which

1017
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: I know is very rare. But then there's moments where,

1018
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: like you know, I find I find that the quote

1019
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: I love the most is contentment is a discipline, like

1020
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: optimism is something we need to work towards, Like it's

1021
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: something we actually actively pursue. You know, our brains kind

1022
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: of tend to do the opposite. And you just did

1023
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: it right, instead of instead of focusing on the illness

1024
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: of the brain, to focus on the wellness of the brain,

1025
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: even that even the linguistic of that, the thought of

1026
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: that is actually firing a more optimistic part of your brain.

1027
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 3: But then, ekey guy, the simplicity of it.

1028
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: I think for anyone to be able to actually center

1029
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: in on one word, the active word for them to

1030
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: pursue is kind of genius because you you know, it's

1031
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: such a it doesn't complicate it too much, It doesn't

1032
00:52:58,880 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 1: become complicated.

1033
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: You apply that to anything.

1034
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's the beauty is its simplicity. I mean,

1035
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 5: it really is.

1036
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: It's it's simple but difficult in the same in the

1037
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: same sense.

1038
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: You know, I love that you went up into the

1039
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: mountains and just got ordained as a monk.

1040
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 3: Can you just what we need to like unpack this

1041
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: for a second?

1042
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 5: Were you like, did you just wake up in morning, like, Eh,

1043
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to Thailand.

1044
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to become a monk?

1045
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: Where did this sort of yeah?

1046
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: Sort of yeah?

1047
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: So what so motivated?

1048
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: I'll be uh, I'll be perfectly honest with you. COVID

1049
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: kicked my ass. And it wasn't the COVID illness. It

1050
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: was all the stuff, the negativity that was built around it.

1051
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 4: At the exact same time, as you might remember, there

1052
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 4: was Black Lives Matter, and then there was stop Asian hate,

1053
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: and then there was the anti Baxers, and there was

1054
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 4: a certain orange president in the United States, and there

1055
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: was all sorts of stuff that was happening. And when

1056
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 4: you're alone in your house, doom scrolling becomes your only hobby, right,

1057
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 4: And so I found myself really really getting down and

1058
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 4: down and down, and it really affected me. I ended

1059
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 4: up in the hospital a couple of times just with

1060
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: mental unwellness, you know. And so with that, I decided

1061
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: that I've always kind of leaned into Buddhism a little bit,

1062
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: but I really leaned into it this time because I

1063
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 4: knew that it was the only kind of island that

1064
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 4: I could go and sit on and actually, you know,

1065
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 4: drinking any wisdom. So I just started, you know, reading

1066
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 4: some books and watching some videos online, and you know

1067
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: how the algorithm works, So all of a sudden, there's

1068
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: more monk videos, and there's more monk videos, and then

1069
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 4: one day I got.

1070
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: Really sing you were just yeah.

1071
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 4: I was getting deeper and deeper, and one day a

1072
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 4: video came on. It was this young man from California actually,

1073
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: and he is an ordained monk in Thailand and his

1074
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 4: name is lp Nick or lop Nick, which means brother.

1075
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 4: And he went to this program, which is an international

1076
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 4: ordainment program where men from around the world can come

1077
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 4: and ordain in English in Thailand and Chang Mai, and

1078
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: I went, ah, that sounds like absolute heaven. And so

1079
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: I looked into it, and because of COVID it was

1080
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 4: all shut down and whatnot. But I put my name

1081
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: on the waiting list and as soon as it opened up,

1082
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 4: they said would you like to come? And I said, yes,

1083
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: I would love to come. So I went there in September.

1084
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 4: We spent about eight days kind of learning different chants

1085
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 4: and kind of learning the process and meditation of being

1086
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 4: a monk. And then you literally fully ordain and leave

1087
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 4: your entire past behind you and asked the whole world

1088
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 4: for their forgiveness and for anything you've trespassed on in

1089
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 4: this life or any life previously, and you literally just

1090
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: take on the life of a monk where you meditate

1091
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 4: four times a day and you learn the dama and

1092
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 4: you find peace. Peace is possible with practice. That's what

1093
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: I figured out.

1094
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: That's so amazing.

1095
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 5: So wait, so it's eight days, but then do you

1096
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Speaker 5: stay longer? Then you come home and then you know

1097
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: it's it's eight.

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00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 4: Days to get to the ordainment, and then you stay

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Speaker 4: for the remainder of the month, so it's a thirty

1100
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 4: day ordainment. This is the way that time in will

1101
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: ordain usually once or twice or many times in their life.

1102
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 4: Ninety three a tizer are Buddhists, but this is all

1103
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: part of their own understanding and be able to kind of,

1104
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 4: you know, live a good life so that they can

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 4: be good providers and be good people and whatnot. But

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00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: for North American men, as I am sure you can

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00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 4: attest Oliver, we don't get a lot of chances to

1108
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 4: go and meditate or or ordain as a monk. Right,

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00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 4: I don't look good as a monk. You'd be great.

1110
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 4: You'd shave off your eyebrows and have.

1111
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: To shave your eyebrows off. Yeah, you shave every thing.

1112
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 4: It's part of letting go your ego. Kate.

1113
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Speaker 2: Wow. Coming back from North America, though, do you have now?

1114
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: Are you living this life?

1115
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Speaker 5: I mean, have you sort of you know, asked for

1116
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 5: that forgiveness and sort of to put your other life

1117
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 5: behind you?

1118
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Speaker 4: Yes, I have, and I can I can say that

1119
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 4: I've carried on with the meditation practices. When you leave

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Speaker 4: the monastery, you dis rope, so you hand your ropes

1121
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 4: back in and you and you get the deposit of

1122
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: your regular clothes back. But but coming back into you know,

1123
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 4: North America and having that thing, it was very very

1124
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 4: very noisy on the old noodle. But I can, I

1125
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Speaker 4: can say that I've come back with such extraordinary lessons.

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Speaker 4: I'm literally just putting together the first kind of outline

1127
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 4: for a new book. It's going to be called Part

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Speaker 4: Time Monk. That piece is possible with practice, cool and

1129
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: and uh yeah, I'm going to outline all the different

1130
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 4: learnings and all the different journeys that that happened leading

1131
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: up to that whole monk experience. But that is that

1132
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 4: is something that anybody can do. They can literally just

1133
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 4: go to imonastery dot com and literally just say, hey,

1134
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: this is something that'd be interested to do.

1135
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so interesting beca going for a month, Yeah.

1136
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 5: It'd be amazing to do. It's almost like called backyard monk,

1137
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 5: like you can just like you know what I mean.

1138
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: Like, but it's also just that the excuse of really

1139
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: like living that because that's a long time.

1140
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's not you know.

1141
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 5: It's a long time people who live, yes, you know,

1142
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: but you're also gaining something that you know that you

1143
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 5: never would have done that. Many people have dedicated their

1144
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 5: entire lives too. But you can go there for thirty

1145
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 5: days and really experience what.

1146
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: That is like.

1147
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: It's almost like every man. Every man should have to

1148
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: be ordained as a monk. Every man should have take

1149
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: opportunities in certain points of their lives, like early twenties,

1150
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: like almost every decade.

1151
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: This is like the campaign you're running on if you

1152
00:58:58,960 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: ran for president.

1153
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: Like every man, when you're twenty one, you're gonna have

1154
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: your s stordain. No, but think about the difference where

1155
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: you every decade, what you're bringing or what you've learned,

1156
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: or what you're carrying, and then to like dis literally

1157
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: dis row and and just find peace.

1158
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. To you know, it's like if there was a

1159
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 4: physical idea. Here's a jar of sparkles. Okay, this is

1160
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 4: what you're like, this is what your life is like

1161
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 4: every day. This is what being a monk does. And

1162
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 4: this is what meditation does. You just put it down,

1163
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 4: you make it still. That's the that's the entire exercise

1164
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Speaker 4: of being right.

1165
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Speaker 3: There is where I want to live.

1166
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Speaker 2: I thought the sparkles was the good part. Like I

1167
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I want that, but it's not.

1168
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Speaker 4: No, here's an interesting thing though, too, Like you start

1169
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 4: moving it around a little bit in the daytime. Yeah,

1170
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 4: and then and then all of a sudden the sparkles

1171
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: start to hash up again and whatnot. But the interesting

1172
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 4: thing is they might not be as mighty sparkles and

1173
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 4: it takes less time to actually settle. Yes, So this

1174
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 4: is just a little I love it. That's cool. I like

1175
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 4: that's at the craft store. That's that's actually that's the

1176
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 4: whole idea of of of of a peaceful I love

1177
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 4: that existence.

1178
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Speaker 5: I think you could market this and sell this and

1179
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 5: make billions of dollars. Like I'm just saying, like I

1180
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 5: would love to have that thing as my own, like

1181
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 5: actual physical thing to look at to calm your mind,

1182
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 5: almost to calm your mind.

1183
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean even just watching it settle as an effect.

1184
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: True. And then when it got into that, I was

1185
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: I am entered. I was in the middle of the sparkles.

1186
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, when you were shaking, and I was like, yeah.

1187
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: It slowed down all of a sudden, I saw myself

1188
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: in the waters.

1189
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, when it slowed down, I sort

1190
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 5: of got I thought of mom an overboard with a

1191
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 5: dream sequence when she's like looking up and like spitting

1192
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 5: out on.

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Speaker 2: New Year's Eve.

1194
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Speaker 1: So I have a couple more questions. When when you said,

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Speaker 1: you know, time, I even forgot the word because it's

1196
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: an affluence time after affluence, Yeah, to be time affluent.

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Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of something that I think

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Speaker 1: you also talk about in the book a little bit

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Speaker 1: which I want to cover, which is the difference between

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Speaker 1: like the important like how do you decipher when let

1201
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: me put it this way, like there's sometimes like someone

1202
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: like living their ekey guy.

1203
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: Let's say it, and you're you know, they're.

1204
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, man, like I'm living my life like I'm

1205
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: living the ekey guy.

1206
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: And you're like, yeah, but you can't pay your bills.

1207
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: You're they're happy? Then who care?

1208
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1209
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: Or but what if you're married to this person?

1210
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: What if this is like you're what if this is

1211
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: like your partner and you're like, you know, we are

1212
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: our children.

1213
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Speaker 3: We can't even afford you know, the book, and I

1214
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 3: need you.

1215
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: I get that you're happy living your life, but I

1216
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: need you actually to have a job.

1217
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 3: I need you to go to work.

1218
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: How do we decipher what the ekey guy is and

1219
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: how to live that life purpose and actually.

1220
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 5: How to have some practical ekey practical practical e guy.

1221
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, uh so this is something that is a

1222
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 4: bit of a head scratcher in terms of just uh,

1223
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: you know, regular everyday people. Yeah, because we definitely want

1224
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: to have the ability to be able to do what

1225
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 4: we love and what we're good at, but we still

1226
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: have that bottom half of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Right. Uh,

1227
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: you know, part time ECHI guys is very reveal. You know,

1228
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: there's there's no reasonon why. You know, I mentioned this

1229
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 4: in my little ted talk that I did that you know,

1230
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 4: we have we have one nine to five that we

1231
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 4: deal with every day, but we have two five to nine,

1232
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 4: So you know, we can do a lot in those

1233
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: four hours in the morning, or we can do a

1234
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 4: lot in those four hours afternoon, or maybe one in

1235
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 4: the morning and three in the afternoon. I have a

1236
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 4: I have a friend who is a doctor and I

1237
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 4: I kind of think of as the ekey guy doctor

1238
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: because doctor Scott Forsyth is this wonderful man who has

1239
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: a family medicine practice, but he says, have a just

1240
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: ferociously talented nature photographer. So when he wakes up in

1241
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 4: the morning, the first thing he does is he does

1242
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 4: all this photography stuff. He just loves diving in immersing

1243
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 4: himself in all this photography stuff. And he works on

1244
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: that specifically only until nine, sorry, only until noon, and

1245
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 4: then he goes into his doctor's office and he's a

1246
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 4: doctor for the rest of the day. Right, So eke

1247
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 4: guy isn't something you have to do in your quote

1248
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: unquote job hours per se. It's still something that is

1249
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 4: important for you to do as just part of your life.

1250
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 4: Doesn't have to be twenty four hours a day.

1251
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: I think that's a really important thing.

1252
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: It's like what you know, some of us call like

1253
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: this side hustle, but it's not a hustle. It's just

1254
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: a love you know, where you have things that you

1255
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: love to do that aren't necessarily what's affording your life.

1256
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And people do those side hustles with one intention

1257
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 4: or one hope in mind is that it becomes the

1258
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 4: regular hustle, right right, Yeah, is that they can be

1259
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 4: successful doing what it is they love to do, so

1260
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 4: they can turn it into a full time hustle. So,

1261
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 4: you know, bet on yourself as far as Iki guy

1262
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 4: is concerned. If you do it two hours a day,

1263
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 4: if you do one hour, if you do it ten minutes,

1264
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 4: whatever the case.

1265
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you know what it is, then you

1266
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 5: can just and if you're consistent with it, then it

1267
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 5: changes sort of your every day, you know. And I

1268
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 5: can feel that meaning I live in Los Angeles and

1269
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 5: I rarely go to the beach, you know, and then

1270
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 5: sometimes all go. I took the kids to the other

1271
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 5: day and the sun was setting and were swimming in

1272
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 5: the freezing water.

1273
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, why don't why don't I come here all

1274
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: the time. I love it. I mean, it makes me

1275
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: feel good, but I don't do it.

1276
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 5: I was just gonna buy another boat, but it turns

1277
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 5: out I have backed taxes.

1278
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1279
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 5: So but like you know, getting having another boat, I

1280
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 5: want to be consistent with it and get out on

1281
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 5: the ocean at least three times a week because it

1282
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 5: makes me feel good.

1283
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 2: Right, the things that make me feel good, I just

1284
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: don't do enough. That's it.

1285
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: Well, And then I think the other thing is is

1286
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: that the measurement of success, how you measure success is

1287
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: really important because you know, I remember when Kurt said

1288
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: to me when I.

1289
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 3: Was really young, why do you want to act?

1290
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: Because if my desire to act was to have what

1291
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: was considered you know, whatever monetary success or success that

1292
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: you know it brings fame or celebrity, if that was

1293
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: the motivation, his concern was, I'd be miserable because it's

1294
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: that is never going to make you happy as an actor,

1295
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: because it's such a tumultuous, critical, rejecting career. And and

1296
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: so like, what is the measure of success in what

1297
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: we do?

1298
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's never really going to be the dollars.

1299
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: So like even I sometimes think about that with you,

1300
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, even if, even if you were

1301
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: given said opportunity, I'm not so sure that's what would

1302
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: bring you happiness as an Ever, as an actor, I'm

1303
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: not so sure that that.

1304
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 5: I just haven't had that chance yet. But you might

1305
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 5: be right, and you might be right.

1306
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: I think that feeling will come from you. You have

1307
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: that feeling, you're just not pursuing that feeling anymore. You're

1308
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: not pursuing the director, which is what right probably this.

1309
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 5: Is an eky guy moment only because right now it's

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Speaker 5: the way I make my money is being an actor.

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Speaker 5: That's the way I support my family and feed my kids,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Sure, the directing part would

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Speaker 5: have to be that side hustle that takes a lot

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Speaker 5: of time to develop and do, which I think is coming.

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Speaker 5: You know, I feel like it's in my older age.

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Speaker 5: Once my kids get older, then you know, maybe i'd

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Speaker 5: have the capacity. But you know, we'll see. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: we'll see. My whole thing is this whole idea that

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Speaker 5: money doesn't buy you happiness.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it. I think money can give me

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Speaker 2: some happiness.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I say, I said to my mom all

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Speaker 5: the time, like I'm like I'm happy.

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Speaker 2: I like I've got an amazing security, amazing kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like if you back the Brinks truck up.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, stresses will go away and I'll be

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Speaker 5: like I'm so happy right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't buy it.

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Speaker 2: I think I would.

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Speaker 1: I think if you, I think you would, I'm making

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Speaker 1: money panic attacks.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think most people really want in

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Speaker 4: life and I don't. I know your listeners won't be

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Speaker 4: able to see this.

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Speaker 2: But I think they want this right he's holding.

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Speaker 4: I think they want just a really really peaceful, contented

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Speaker 4: life with one money. That's one thing, but but it

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Speaker 4: doesn't really bother me. This is this is kind of

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Speaker 4: called equanimity. That's a word that we use in Buddhism.

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Speaker 4: Equanimity is something basically just basically says you have the

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Speaker 4: calm and the wisdom that will that will allow you

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Speaker 4: to be able to use the space between the thought

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Speaker 4: and the reaction in a really really like peaceful, easy

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Speaker 4: going away.

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Speaker 2: And that's water. Stress about things, that's just water and sequence.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's just water and a little bit of

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Speaker 4: glacerin If you want the recipe and.

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Speaker 2: I could sell. I want some gliter and something in there.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna go home and take all the pickle jar

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Speaker 4: out of the fridge.

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Speaker 2: And I like that thing, I really do. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: copy you.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any siblings, by the way, I do,

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Speaker 3: how many?

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Speaker 4: I'm the baby. I have an older brother who is

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Speaker 4: about three years older than I am. He's adopted brother.

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Speaker 4: And then I have an older sister as well. She's

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Speaker 4: my half sister actually, And yeah, they all live here

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Speaker 4: in the same province as I do.

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Speaker 1: Give us a little bit of history from where your

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Speaker 1: family came from and when they came to this to Canada.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. So my grandfather and grandmother

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Speaker 4: were in a arrange marriage from Okinawa, and they came

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Speaker 4: from this very very very impossibly small set of island

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Speaker 4: called Hamahiga Island, just off the coast of the main

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Speaker 4: island of Okinawa, and I went there a couple of

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Speaker 4: years ago, and it's just it's absolutely impossible to think

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Speaker 4: that anybody could live there. But anyway, my grandfather immigrated

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Speaker 4: from Okinawa to Hawaii with his brother in the late

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Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds and they worked in the cane fields there

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Speaker 4: and he hated it because it was too much like Okinawa.

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Speaker 4: So my grandfather jumped on a boat and came to

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Speaker 4: Canada and he landed in Vancouver and he started living

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Speaker 4: in this little, tiny, small Japanese I think he could

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Speaker 4: probably call it like a Japanese kind of center called

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Speaker 4: Steveston in outside of Vancouver. And he was like doing

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Speaker 4: just the fisherman stuff and you know, basic things. And

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Speaker 4: then the First World War broke out and him and

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Speaker 4: these two one hundred and some Japanese men volunteered to

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Speaker 4: fight for the Canadian army in the First World War,

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Speaker 4: if you can believe that, And the people said, no,

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Speaker 4: you can't do that. Anyways, in time they said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we need soldiers, so send over those Japanese guys. So

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Speaker 4: they all went and trained in Calgary here and then

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Speaker 4: they went off and fought in the First World War

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Speaker 4: two hundred and two. I think Japanese men imagine that

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Speaker 4: fightings for the Canadian Expeditionary Force. So anyway, I digress.

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Speaker 4: When my grandfather came back after the war, he was

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Speaker 4: allowed to purchase some land in Alberta to be a farmer,

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Speaker 4: and that's where his wife came and met him, and

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Speaker 4: they'd never met each other, if you can believe that,

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Speaker 4: he went and picked her up on a train in

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Speaker 4: Vancouver and brought her back to a farm. And they

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Speaker 4: had eleven kids, and my dad was a second I

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Speaker 4: guess so, and you're so your dad was my dad? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: my dad was was born in nineteen nineteen, what was it,

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Speaker 4: nineteen twenty three, and so, jeez, he'll be one hundred

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Speaker 4: years old next year. Well he died a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, so him as a as a Japanese man,

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Speaker 4: he met my mom, who was who is mostly British

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Speaker 4: from what I understand, and they got together and my

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Speaker 4: mom came with my sister. My brother was adopted because

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Speaker 4: they didn't think they could get pregnant, and then right

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Speaker 4: after they adopted my brother, they had me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh cool, So you've always so Canada they came,

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Speaker 1: they came through Canada, and so so during internment, Canada

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Speaker 1: wasn't affected. All it was it was were your parents

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Speaker 1: It was turned.

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Speaker 4: No because they had already they were already living inland.

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Speaker 4: So it was only the people on the coast that

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Speaker 4: were brought inland. Yeah. Yeah, that's a part of history,

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 1: Terrible and not covered enough. Danny's fair, Danny's grandfather.

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Speaker 3: And you were interned.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, crazy right, and no one really talks

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Speaker 1: about it. It's not something Yeah, all right, So let's

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Speaker 1: so what is anything else that we want to know?

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Speaker 5: But I'd like to maybe wrap it up with sort

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Speaker 5: of like a message to the people who are listening basically,

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Speaker 5: like number one is sort of when you start to

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Speaker 5: sort of discover your ekey guy, what does that feel like?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Or what might what what might that bring upon as

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Speaker 5: far as what you're feeling in your life once you

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Speaker 5: start to do the things that you love to do.

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Speaker 4: Uh, it feels like it just feels like you walk

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Speaker 4: out the door and you know and you have the

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Speaker 4: compass that knows exactly what your true north is. You know.

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Speaker 4: It's literally that that feeling, And if you're creative about it,

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Speaker 4: you can realize that there are a million different ways

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Speaker 4: that you can use your ekey guy, not only to

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Speaker 4: benefit yourself, but especially to benefit other people. That's the

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Speaker 4: real magic I think of eky guy is that once

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Speaker 4: you start seeing how people react to when you make

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Speaker 4: them laugh or when you make them feel like you're

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 4: fully immersed in with them or whatever the case. You

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 4: know that there's so many different ways that you can

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01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 4: do that, and people know that you're being true to

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Speaker 4: yourself and they go, Jesus, you're good at that. I

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Speaker 4: just I am so thankful that you brought that. You know.

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Speaker 5: It's like, like, I don't know the ultimate gift really

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01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 5: and number one is and number one is to go

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Speaker 5: buy the book. Right, that's how to begin this all

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01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 5: because we gotta we got to. You gotta buy the book.

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01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 5: You gotta read because it's amazing. But but I would assume,

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Speaker 5: not assume, but maybe a great way to start for

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Speaker 5: someone who's trying to discover what their egy guy is

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 5: is to do exactly what you did with us, but

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 5: you can kind of do it with your own like

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01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 5: just really think about the things that you love, write

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01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 5: them down, and then find the common denominator.

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, find the action, right.

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01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love to do Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's for sure. And I don't know if this is appropriate,

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 4: but I have a skill share course on do what

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01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 4: you love. Oh yeah, yeah, of course people want to

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Speaker 4: If people want to go to that, that'd be great,

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01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 4: of course, called do what you love and introduction to

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Speaker 4: Ekey Guy. So, and it's available on skill share right now.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was trying to get at. Perfect

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Speaker 2: perfect Well has been great. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: I loved hanging out with you.

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Speaker 1: This was fun, so fun, And thank you for your book.

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Speaker 1: It was really helpful for me.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I learned a lot.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it right now.

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Speaker 4: I figure so thankful that you shared it with your family, Kate,

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Speaker 4: and that this is something that is meaningful to you.

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Speaker 4: I'm working on a different little kind of side project

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Speaker 4: right now. It's called Ekey Guy Income that is literally

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Speaker 4: based on that whole idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interest to make money off of your Ekey Guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, there's so many ways to do it, and

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01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 4: you have such a great personality to be able to

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Speaker 4: be making more contents that you can use that as

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Speaker 4: a tool as well. But thank you, guys. I'm so thankful.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, buddy, thank you, thank you guys.

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Speaker 5: Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: Producer is Alison.

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Speaker 2: President, editor is Josh Wendish.

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Speaker 1: Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.

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