1 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett. Coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN, Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Hey Lot's s are live on a Thursday EDITIONTIVE Cleveland 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: Browns Daily, brought you by Bally Bet, your sports betting 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: partner of your Cleveland Brown's Now live in Ohio on 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. I am merely bow. He is 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: the great z inching closer, Sir inching closer the NFL. 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: I like to sprint there. I'd like to get there. 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: I can't wait for this game tonight, the Chiefs defending 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: Super Bowl champions, the Chiefs going on against the Lions. 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm excited for that. Before we get into too much 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: serious business, though, I got to shout out our guy Lavell, 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: I have to. 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Do it what he did well. I mean, first of all, 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: you're never gonna hear me have any issue with that. 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: I appreciate that very much. 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: He was my guy, yes, in the old days, my 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: guy he was yeah. And now he's askers me a 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: great deal that he is now your guy. Well, he's 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: our guy. I don't get it. Partake though, like in 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: the old days, the old days. Back in the old days, 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: I could partake a little bit in the new days. 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to show you a picture right now, and 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: I want me to tell you. You to tell me 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: what you see. Focus on the main event there. Oh, 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: there's clearly a main event. You got a tomawk, RUBI, No, 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: that's not even a tomaker. That is a Oh, it's 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: a lamb chop. So you would think that is a 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: venison chop. He had a rack of venison that he 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: was hand slicing into deer chop. Yes, I've never had 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: in my life. 35 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: I don't know who Dennis Venison is. Deer. 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: Yes, then you have a pesto shrimp. Don't worry about that. 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: Just focus on the Venicon chin. I've never seen that 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: in my life. So I've had two things now that 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: I've never had in my entire life in the last 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: two weeks. Water buffalo ribs, which new your mind. 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: We saw it on the bone of one of those 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: Venicon chops. They're spectacular. 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: Gibe mid I sent it to the hof. I don't 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 3: think the hops ever seen anything like. It came out 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: like a full rack of lamb, and then he would. 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: They were carving them one at a time for you. 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like it. It was so good 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: it was, I said, And it's a bold statement. I've 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: never seen it. I mean, we a lot of deers. 50 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: I'm a prisoner of the moment. Let me be clear. 51 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: Maybe the best thing that's ever come out of that cafe. 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll just tell you this, for the folks out. 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: There, the look of this is extraordinary. It's perfect, perfectly medium, rare. 54 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: It's perfect. Gibbet, you said when I said that earlier, 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: like that's the bold call, and it is. 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: Where are they dreaming this stuff up? 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: He must just have a freezer. He's hanging out with 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: the Jose and I guess he's got to this the 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: most water buffalo. 60 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: He's got venison like I don't even ever seen that before. 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: But it feels to me like that is this is 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: a food that poor tends victory. 63 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: God. I hope, so, man, I hope, So how could 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: it not? I can't. We can't get there soon enough. 65 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: We cannot get to Sunday sooner. 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: I feel like that's a palpable feeling in this building. 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: I think it's taking a step further. I think it's 68 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: a palpable feeling in the fan base. Like you've this 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: has been I mean, let's be realized, this has been 70 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: two long years. Brother, Like last year was tough, tough. 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: We've waited this a duck's back. You've waited and you've 72 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: done own sixteen. Brother, Yeah, but you also knew that's 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: what you knew what was in play. You have sixteen, 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: but you knew it was going to be three and thirteen. Okay, 75 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: those were bad rosters, right, you did not have I'm 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: gonna tell you something. It is much. It's much. It's 77 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: it's easier to lack aspirations than to have aspirations and 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: not meet them. Yes, that is a very It's much 79 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: easier to be playing for nothing, then think you're playing 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: for something and then end up not playing for nothing. 81 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: Correct. 82 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: And the hard part about this entire offseason has been 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: there is nothing that you or I can say, or 84 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: that Kevin Stefanski can say, or that Deshaun Watson can 85 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: say that our front officer ownership can say. It just 86 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: has to be done. Gibbey's the show me state guy. 87 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: Like this has to be shown this Sunday. That's when 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: it's going to happen, and it is going to be 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: hyper reactive one way or another. 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, hyper hyper reactive. We are either going to 91 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: the super Bowl or disband everything. I mean that's kind 92 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: of it feels like those are the stakes in the 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: social media world for this particular football. Yeah, which is 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: one of seventeen I'll remind people, but also one that 95 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: feels very important. 96 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's it's the first two. 97 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you get Bengals Steelers out of the game, 98 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: like that's the it's a split. It's what you need 99 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: to get out of that. You got to get a 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: split out. 101 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: I got to get a split. And if you happen 102 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: to go to and oh, phenomenal. I think going to 103 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: would be would be a tough starting point. I think 104 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: it'd make the next two games you must have win. 105 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: You'd have to be two and two going in the 106 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: buy with them win over the Ravens and Titans. But 107 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: get it's a big one and I think it's there. 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: I think this is going through with the more that 109 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: I've you know, going through, and I'm almost done completely 110 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: with the boards. I just have a few things left 111 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: to do on the Bengal side of thinks. But I 112 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: got a lot of my trends in here and looked 113 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: into some of the stuff that lou An Arumo is doing. 114 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: And I'm sure we'll talk about that more detail later on. 115 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: But I feel good. I feel pretty good, and I 116 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: feel like this is a very good team. I feel 117 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: like we're a very good team. I feel like they're 118 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: a very good team. And I think it's gonna be fun. 119 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: I think we're to watch. I think some high level football. 120 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: Maybe. 121 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: I think this game and the Bills Jets should be 122 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: maybe the two best games of the weekend. 123 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I was listening to uh the Couz 124 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: and Bill on their on their big extravaganza this week, 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: and they didn't even have this is like must watch, 126 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: and of course the view well right, and that well 127 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: if you the one that they viewed as the as 128 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: the most watch was actually Philly in New England, which 129 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: I have no interest in Philly or New England. But 130 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: Bill can't help himself. He loves he loves the idea 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: of talking to himself into the Patriots. But yeah, no, 132 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: this is this is the one I think that there 133 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: are when when you look at the full slate. I 134 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: think if you take like if you just look at 135 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: the two rosters and say you're doing rosters, you're doing brands, 136 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: you're doing all of that. But it is Jets and 137 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: Buffalo that is a that's a monster. Yea, this one 138 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: is a monster. The Steelers and forty nine Ers in 139 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: the one o'clock window. It's a good game out of 140 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: the gates. Like is with Pickett. You know, Bosa gets 141 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: signed yesterday? What does what does that look like? You 142 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: know that that's a big one. The other one to 143 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: me that no one is talking about that I'm really 144 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: interested to see is Miami at Lay They play the Chargers. 145 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: Miami plays the Chargers on Sunday. So that's another one 146 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: that's that's really good and I think has a lot 147 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: of injurg to it. But in terms of like, hey, 148 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: here's two teams and we believe this. There aren't many 149 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: people in the country who believe this, but here are 150 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: two teams that, if things go right, can win the 151 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yes, these are two of those teams. I 152 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: think people, probably people in Pittsburgh probably think Picket. We 153 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: probably viewed the same way about Watson the way they 154 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: view about Pickett. Okay, I'm not comparing the two. I'm 155 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: saying the way that they're viewed by the perspective fan bases. 156 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, I'll take you a step further. 157 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: I would tell you and you tell me if you 158 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: think I'm wrong on this, And I don't think it's 159 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: a stretch. I think people, I think the Pittsburgh fan 160 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: base is more convinced of Pickett's Pickett being great than 161 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: some of our fan bases of Watson being great, despite 162 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: the fact that Watson's been great for four years in 163 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: the NFL, John Watson, do you tell me if you 164 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: think that that's not true? Stand we talk to our fans. 165 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: I know, but I can't imagine people in Pittsburgh truly believe. 166 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: That like I think they do. No, No, I think 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: they do. 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: That's crazy they do. 169 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: They believe he's gonna be great. 170 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: Sean Watson is fourth all time of all quarterbacks who 171 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: have ever played. 172 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: Do you have a problem with my statement? No, I 173 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: think I think it's I think it's. 174 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 3: What is Kenny Pickett ever shown to anybody that would 175 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: make him even believe that he could be that good? Sewn, 176 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: Watson's fourth all time and completion percentage third all time 177 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: in rating, behind only Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes all time. 178 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: In the history of this game, we've been through it, like, 179 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: what is can you? 180 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: Pickett? And maybe I'm telling you that now the fan 181 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: base is view it well, people are irrational, they are, 182 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: but theirs is irrationally positive. Well because they've had that's 183 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: not our nature and we're positive irrationally negative. Yes, to 184 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: be fair, we haven't finished above them in the standing 185 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: since what eighty nine? Yes, so we got some Yeah, 186 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: it's all. 187 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: I get it all, Like I think people and look, 188 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: maybe Kenny Pickett is about to take this monstrous leap, 189 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: which would be what a joy to see, But I 190 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: think people for get that this we're talking about a 191 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: guy who threw for seven touchdowns and nine interceptions last 192 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: year and forget that. But we're talking about somebody who 193 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: ever is six yards in attempt and one hundred and 194 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: eighty yards a game. 195 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: I know, like, what are we talking about that? This 196 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: guy's all of a sudden you listen to it. You've 197 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: seen all the people make the projections of who's making 198 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: the playoffs. They're always in it always always and they're 199 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: and they are always they always in it. They win. 200 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: But it's God Almighty, it's it's enough. 201 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: Do people, what's what do you think? 202 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: What is more likely? This is what I would like 203 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: to say to people. What is more likely that Kenny 204 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: Pickett jumps? So let's say that you think the two 205 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: rosters are equal, Pittsburgh and Cleveland. What Let's say that 206 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: you think that I don't either, But let's say that 207 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: you do. Okay, let's say that you say that the 208 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: two rosters are equal. They're probably not. They're probably pretty similar. 209 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: We have strengths, they have strengths. I like ours a 210 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: little better, but I don't think it's You don't think 211 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: it's a monster gap from their roster to ours? Outside 212 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: of quarterback, do you? 213 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 5: I mean? 214 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: I think our offensive line is significantly superior. Are running 215 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 3: back is significantly superior. I think probably receivers and tight ender. 216 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: Will a wash. 217 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: There's a probably a little. 218 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: Do you think so? 219 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: I mean, just because we haven't seen I love Pickens. 220 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: Washington's great, Deontay Johnson's gread love. 221 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm a big Deontay Johnson guy. I think our defense 222 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: is better than their defense. Our corners are for sure 223 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: better than their corners. Yeah, corners are. Our line is 224 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 3: at least now I think their star power. 225 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I know not some Pittsburgh apologists, but between maca, 226 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: Watt and Hayward, they they've got three. Yeah, you know 227 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: at every level kind of there, it's close. It gets 228 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: back to my point. Yeah, is it more likely this 229 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 2: is what I would say to people, More likely that 230 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett becomes a seventy percent passer who throw has 231 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: a three to one touchdown interception ratio, or that Deshaun 232 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: Watson does that Deshaun because he's done it, that's right. Yeah, 233 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: but in with a lot. He did it for four years. 234 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: He has better talent around him. Now, When's when's the 235 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: last time the Steelers won a playoff game? Twenty sixteen? 236 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: Is that it? Has it been that? I don't know? 237 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well the only other year could be twenty seventeen. 238 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: They lost in the divisional round, but they were thirteen 239 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: and three. So my guess is back then you would 240 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: have had two teams getting a bye. Yeah, I'm pretty 241 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: sure they would have gotten a bye and then they lost. 242 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: Is that the loss to Jacksonville? 243 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking, yeah, Portals. 244 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: Went in there. 245 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: Huh, yes, so they lost. They did not make the 246 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: playoffs in eighteen, They did not make the playoffs. In nineteen, 247 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: they lost in the first round to US. In twenty 248 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: they lost to the Chiefs in the first round. In 249 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: twenty one, they did not make the playoff lat Ye. 250 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: They wont plaffames in sixteen. 251 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: Ye. 252 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean, let's we have Yeah, we beat them. 253 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: I understand you and I know that, but it all 254 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: goes away Sunday. 255 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about a team that does not 256 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: want a playoff game at a minimum in six seasons, and 257 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: it feels like at a maximum seven. And they were 258 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: acting like these Eyes are the best team that's ever lived. No, 259 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 3: the same is happening with Baltimore, by the way, as well. 260 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 3: A lot of people all over the Ravens and I 261 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: don't see that one. A couple of news out there, 262 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: the Browns restructed to contract of Wyatt Teller, creating nine 263 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: million more in cap space that being reported by field Yates. 264 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: A couple of notes from the NFL I mentioned the 265 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: Bosa contract thirty four million dollars per year on the 266 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: extension five years one twenty two point five that guaranteed 267 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy million overall. He is that resets 268 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: the market by a pretty wide margin. Most certainly does. 269 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: I mean they kind of lapsed. So they have the 270 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: highest paid tight end, highest paid d end, highest paid 271 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: running back, highest paid linebacker. I believe with Warner. 272 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: Probably are close, right. 273 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: I think they have the highest paid players. I saw 274 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: this tweet yesterday. They were like seven five position groups 275 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: that they have the highest paid. But they're paying pretty 276 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: eight bucks. Yeah, so that's how you can do all 277 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: of that. Yea, it is a mailbig Thursday tweet your 278 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: questions to z and I Browns Underscore Daily. We're gonna 279 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: answer those later in the show. We do have a 280 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: game tonight. It is the Leos and the Chiefs. Travis 281 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: Kelcey apparently worked out this morning. Yeah, it does. It 282 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: does sound like he's gonna play. 283 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: So so that's good, right, and that's a NBC. 284 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's big news for him. I didn't even tell 285 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: him that he's not. I was gonna wait until I 286 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: was gonna wait. 287 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 3: Until just let it be a shock. 288 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: No, it's gonna wait until right before kick and say, 289 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: oh yeah, Kelsey's out. I already put kinkaid in. You're fine, 290 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: but it's just temporary. Don't worry about it. Like, there's 291 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: no reason for him to be up in arms yet. 292 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: If he's going to be a fantasy football player, if 293 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: you're letting you into this world, he needs to be 294 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: on the news like this is outrageous. 295 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: This kid's like, what is daily required right now? But 296 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: an academic athletics standpoint, I don't even know how he 297 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: gets up in the morning, Like he voluntarily went to 298 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: bed like ten to nine. Yeah, but it's football practice 299 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: every night for two hours. It's uh, it's homework, getting 300 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: a lot stacking. 301 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: In what fifth grade? Sixth sixth grade? 302 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, it's stacks. 303 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: It's stacks, buddiest And he needs to have time to 304 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: decompress and go through the news of the national his team. 305 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: His team. Yeah, he's got to get locked in, but 306 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: he doesn't. He's unaware of it. 307 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: Give him my number, tell him, just talk to me 308 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: right through this deal. 309 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: I cannot stress how bad an idea that is. 310 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: He thrive. Why is it a bad idea? 311 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 5: All right? 312 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: Why is it about I'm not sure you're the greatest 313 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: influence necessary for those young. 314 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: This is coming from This is coming from somebody who 315 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: isn't allowed into other countries, who has done a lot 316 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: of things that he can't speak of. 317 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm a battery team. 318 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm a bad influence member of our security team. 319 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: Now you better watch yourself get the gear? 320 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: Do you go gear? I did? Oh my god, that's unbelievable. 321 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm a bad influence. 322 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: By the way, Go ahead. What do you have? 323 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: Going back to the forty nine ers, Yeah, conversation. Highest 324 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: paid defensive end, highest paid running back, highest paid fullback, 325 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: third highest paid tight end, third highest paid left tackle, 326 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: third highest paid linebacker, sixth highest paid defensive tackle, seventh 327 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: highest paid wide receiver. Meanwhile, their quarterback, brock Party, makes 328 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: the least among all NFL starters at nine hundred and 329 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: thirty four k. 330 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: So brock Party makes one third of what Shader Sanders 331 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: is going to make at Colorado. 332 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: That's right. 333 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: And the kid is Caleb. 334 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: Williams is gonna make five million the USC the Heisman winner. 335 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: He all weekend, he was in back to back ads. 336 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: They'd run the Nissan AD, then they run the Hot 337 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: Weddy Well Wendy's and the also oh he had three yes, 338 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: said Dr Pepper that's right. 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Team Shop gift cards as well. Enter today 357 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: for that and now it's head to the podium. Special 358 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: teams coordinator Bubba Ventro. 359 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 6: He's done well. He is getting comfortable with the operation. 360 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 6: You know, he's very particular. So those guys have done 361 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 6: a good job. They've worked really hard the last week 362 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 6: or so just getting that, you know, in a comfortable spot. 363 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: So it looks. 364 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 4: Mechanics and nuances to that kicking game. 365 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 7: Is that Is that a real challenge to get a 366 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 7: guy up to speed with that group in this short 367 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 7: of a window. 368 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 6: No, I think just the communication is important amongst him 369 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 6: and Corey, you know, specifically on the on the on 370 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 6: where the ball needs to be placed and how it's 371 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 6: leaned and all that, all that type of stuff. 372 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 8: So it's been good. 373 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 9: Is it a tough transition for you to have to 374 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 9: make a tough decision for you to have to you know, 375 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 9: be a part of to. 376 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 10: To move on from Kate and just say, you know, we've. 377 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 11: Got to make a change here. 378 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 8: Yeah. 379 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 6: I mean, you build relationships with players and things like that. 380 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 6: As far as the kicking specifically, I've worked with a 381 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 6: number of specialists and kickers over the last five years, 382 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 6: you know, as a coordinator, So I've I feel like 383 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 6: I've had experience you know in that regard. So excited 384 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 6: about the Ustin and you know, his opportunity to contribute 385 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 6: to our our teams. 386 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: Kam for the season. 387 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 10: What do you plan to do to try and fill 388 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 10: that void? 389 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that was it was disappointing for him. 390 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 6: He had worked so hard to come back, you know, 391 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 6: from injury and obviously sustaining that in the case game 392 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 6: was was heartbreaking, you know, for the for the kid 393 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 6: because he had worked so hard. 394 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 8: To make it back, you know. 395 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 6: And then you know, in football, you know, injuries are 396 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 6: going to happen, and it's a part of the game 397 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 6: and we're ready for you know, to take that next 398 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 6: step and not replace him, but you know someone else 399 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 6: needs to step up and you know, contribute to those units. 400 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 4: Yesterday you had Jerome Ford taking the reps to kick return. 401 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 5: But the guy kicking the ball is the practice score kicker. 402 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: Why was that instead of Pompkins. 403 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 6: We're gonna have our guys kick on different days at times. 404 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 6: You know, typically in a in a week of work, 405 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 6: Dustin's to kick on Thursday and Friday. That's what he's 406 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 6: done in his career. So just try to keep him 407 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 6: as comfortable as possible with his process, and Lucas will 408 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 6: kick on Wednesdays and Thursdays. 409 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 11: What do you like about Jerome Fda as a ticker turner? 410 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 8: Jerome does a lot of good things. 411 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: He's got good vision, he's an aggressive runner, he's fast, 412 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 6: he's got good. 413 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 8: Contact balance, he's strong. 414 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 6: I think he's I think he's got some toughness to him. 415 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 6: Every every Friday, and I shouldn't really say this now 416 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 6: because I hope none of the players see it, but 417 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 6: every Friday, I show a high school highlight film from 418 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 6: one of our players at the end of my meeting, 419 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 6: just try to lighten it up a little bit. And 420 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 6: I'm going to show his tomorrow and it's probably the 421 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 6: best highlight film I've seen in the. 422 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 8: Last six years. So excited to do that with Jerome. 423 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 9: I mean, when you have a younger player who has 424 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 9: to miss like an extended time in training camp, like 425 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 9: what's most important, Like obviously it's the second year here, 426 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 9: but to make sure he's staying on top of things, 427 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 9: and how have you seen him handle that part of it? 428 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 8: Yeah? 429 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 6: For I would say for ball handler specifically, like for us, 430 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 6: he's just got to get as many catches pre and 431 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 6: post practice, especially off the live foot, that's important. 432 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 8: He's done a good job of that. 433 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: Uh, since he's been back, and you know, excited to 434 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 6: be able to see him, you know, moving forward. 435 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 5: Unusual that the kicker has been in the league nine 436 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 5: years has. 437 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: Never kicked here before in this stadium. 438 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, he's one game. 439 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 8: Yeah, just pats in that particular game. That is that 440 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 8: is kind of I didn't I didn't actually know that. 441 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 5: Well, how do you get a macclimated? 442 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 8: This is the toughest, So it was. 443 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 6: It was good to be able to get down there 444 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 6: last week and hitting the stadium. That was his first 445 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 6: time when that we had you know, really like live 446 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 6: operation and it was at the stadium, so that was good. 447 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 6: He hit the ball well. The thing that's works to 448 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 6: his advantage just overalls as a specialist as a kicker, 449 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 6: even though he had been in LA the last two years, 450 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 6: he's been in Washington the previous however, and so he's 451 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 6: kicked outside, he's been in the elements. He understands, you know, 452 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 6: win patterns and win conditions, so that I think bodes 453 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 6: to his advantage and our advantage as far as you know, 454 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 6: acquiring guy this late in the game. So and he's 455 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 6: a true professional, he really is. He's worked really hard 456 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 6: at you know, getting comfortable with those guys. So it's 457 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 6: been good your job. 458 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 9: What was it like to lose your number one returner 459 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 9: and then have to switch up your kickers in the 460 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 9: final week of the camp? 461 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean things are gonna happen. You know, things 462 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 6: happen in in in sports and football, and you just 463 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 6: you gotta it's it's how you bounce back, It's how 464 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 6: you it's how you uh, you know, get back up 465 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 6: off the ground, you know, and how how how are 466 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 6: we gonna make it right? So things happen in a game. 467 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 6: I mean there's guys go down in the game. It's 468 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 6: how are you gonna How are you gonna come back? 469 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 6: How are you gonna you know, respond? So I feel 470 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 6: like this is some adversity and you know, with our 471 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 6: team and we gotta we gotta come back and come 472 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 6: back fighting return Donovan, I mean, Donovan has been the 473 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 6: primary returner back there we have other guys that can 474 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: do it, so you know, we're always going to go 475 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 6: with the best available, you know, depending on their offensive 476 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 6: and defensive availability. 477 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 11: So I'm sure you got geeked up as a player 478 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 11: for Sunday. So how's it different as a coach or 479 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 11: do you get geeked up just in a different way. 480 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 8: It's different. 481 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 6: I feel like as a as a player, you have 482 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 6: more like true nerves going into a game. It's just 483 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: it's different. You know, as a coach, you feel you 484 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 6: feel confident as long as you prepare well, Like I 485 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 6: feel like I prepare well. I feel confident in my 486 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 6: ability to get my players in the right position. But 487 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 6: then you're kind of at the mercy of them. You know, 488 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 6: you don't have any real control over the performance. You're 489 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 6: just trust thing in them that they've prepared well and 490 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 6: have practiced well, and you've put them and trained them 491 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 6: in specific situations. 492 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 8: So there's definitely differences. 493 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 6: I would say that, like me personally, I got more 494 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 6: nervous for games as a player. 495 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 10: Is it to have core guys on your units to 496 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 10: be to have the special teams that you want? And 497 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 10: who would you say are like your core guys like 498 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 10: the mad Adams and most. 499 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 8: Kind of guys. 500 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I would say the guys that don't 501 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 6: play really that have like starting roles offensively and defensively, 502 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 6: I think that those you have those backups in those 503 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 6: key positions. Typically, I would say like amongst the league, 504 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 6: you know, most of your core is going to come 505 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 6: from defensive positions. Linebackers, you know, the third, fourth, fifth safety, 506 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 6: the fifth corner on the roster. You know, hopefully you 507 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 6: can have some offensive players that contribute in some capacity, 508 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 6: whether it's you know, the third running back. You know, 509 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 6: hopefully you can have a tight end contribute, like Harrison 510 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 6: Bryant helps us out. So that's like that's a positive 511 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 6: because then when you get those contributions from the offensive positions, 512 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 6: then it pulls a little bit back off the defense. 513 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 6: When you don't have contributions from offensive players, if you 514 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 6: don't have a running back, that it really does much. 515 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 6: If you don't have a tight end, then it's really 516 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: stressing those defensive positions and you may need to you 517 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 6: may need to carry another defensive player to the game. 518 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 8: To do so. 519 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 6: So guys that can do multiple things. Position flexibility is 520 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 6: a big thing. You know, acquiring Pierre Strong it was 521 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 6: a good thing for us because he had special. 522 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 8: Teams experience in New England. 523 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 6: So I think that that's definitely that's value that's having. 524 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: Value and be sure to check out new episodes of 525 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: Dog's Only new player led podcast. Watch and listen on 526 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: the Browns YouTube channel or wherever you get your podcast. 527 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: It is a matchup day. We will break down the 528 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: Browns defense versus a high flying Bengals offense. Coming up 529 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: next you listen to Clearan the Browns Daily, brought you 530 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: by bat All Bets sports betting partner. Your Cleveland Brown's 531 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: now live in Ohio. Want eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 532 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming 533 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 534 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: And joined Zi Gerad Tonight seven to eight Brew Garden, 535 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: Bagley Road, Middleburg Heights for the regular season debut of 536 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: the Kevin Stefanski Show. Stop out and meet Brown's quarterback 537 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: Greg Newsom. Enjoys some great specials from bud Light as well. 538 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: By the way, a hunk of vent ashes was delivered 539 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: to me. That's right, Bayuno from That's Revell's kitchen. That's right. 540 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: And so let's just say this, it was clearly su Vid. 541 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: I don't think that there's anything There's no doubt that 542 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: it was Suvid because it was and then then finished 543 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: in a broiler, probably a very very hot oven one 544 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: way or another. Okay, it was not warm when it 545 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: was delivered to me, so this was a This was 546 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: a lukewarmish cool cut of meat. I did not eat 547 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: it with a utensil. I chose to just eat it 548 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: alpha male style, give me a bone and let's go. 549 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: Yes, if people don't like that that you didn't use intensively, 550 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: can get bent? 551 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: Get bent? It was sublime. And I said while devouring 552 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: it that it would it would be something that you 553 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: would show up at, like if you were having a 554 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: dinner at the Murray Hotel in Livingston, Montana. It would 555 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: be tonight's special. Yes, it would be bone in Tomahawk venison. Yes, 556 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: and you'd get like three of them and it would 557 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: have That's what it takes it. 558 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: So do you agree it? Could it be the best? 559 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 3: Let me rephrase it then, so I don't. 560 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine. I'm trying to thmore. Yeah, for sure, 561 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: and it's I honestly, I can't relie think of anything 562 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: for the only thing that I remember. It's been a 563 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 2: while since I've eaten on there, But the only thing 564 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 2: I remember like that I remember being blown away by 565 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: was there is a split pee to say, the swit piece. 566 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: Those are like stunning. 567 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: Those are the top two things. 568 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: So this is but that. I mean, that's comparing a 569 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: soup to a delicious cind of meat. 570 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: But it was transformative. 571 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: It was transformative. But I so those were the two 572 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: things that jumped to my mind of like, Okay, that's 573 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: next level. 574 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: We've had some good like smoked prime rib and stuff 575 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: like that. Bit's awesome, but stuff that you've. 576 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never had that. That's up there. Yeah, it's stunning. 577 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 2: Stunning is right. 578 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: I did not have it. 579 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: It's a matchup Day presented by bally Bet sports betting 580 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 2: partner your Cleveland Browns now live in Ohio. It is 581 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: our defense versus the Bengals offense. 582 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: Doc Dizzy, all right, folks, here's who the Bengals are. 583 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: You know it. 584 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow sixty eight percent and seventy five yards, thirty 585 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: five touchdowns, twelve picks, a one hundred point eight rating. 586 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: Also career higst two hundred and fifty seven yards rushing 587 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: in five rushing touchdowns last year. 588 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: Kind of right in line with his career. 589 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, sixty eight sent for his career, 590 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: eighty two touchdowns, thirty one picks, one hundred point four rating. 591 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: For him, he is an elite quarterback. Went to the 592 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, believe it or not, for the first time 593 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: last year. Was not a Pro Bowl quarterback in twenty 594 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: twenty one, even though that year he completed seventy percent 595 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 3: of his passes for almost forty seven hundred yards, thirty 596 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: four touchdowns, fourteen picks, and a rating of one hundred 597 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: and eight point three. 598 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: Is that what that had to be the Allen where 599 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: Allen went nuts? It was probably Allen and Mahomes. 600 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: I guess. But he wasn't even an alternate. 601 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: Did he get banged up at the end of the 602 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: year and decline? 603 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. Should I feel like shouldn't that was 604 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: here They played in the Super Bowl, right, so maybe 605 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: he wouldn't have been able to play. I'm sorry, You're right, 606 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: he wouldn't have been able to play. But then three quarterbacks, 607 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: I mean, Tyler Huntley was a Pro Bowler. 608 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think the Pro Bowl. Yeah, the 609 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl thing annoys me. 610 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like you should be two. 611 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks and then that's it, and there should the alternate 612 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: shouldn't count as Pro bowlers. I think it just sucks that, 613 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: Like you're in the AFC. How great you have to 614 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: be to be a pro bowler? 615 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Burrow only a pro bowler last year. He was 616 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: the AP Comeback Player of the Year in twenty one. 617 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: With that, so he's the straw that stirs the drink. 618 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: You got Jamar Chase and T Higgins two consecutive seasons 619 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: of more than a thousand yards each. Their third receiver, 620 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: Tyler Boyd, has at least seven hundred and sixty yards 621 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: and four or more touchdowns in five straight seasons, including 622 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: two thousand yard seasons in eighteen and nineteen before the 623 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: Young Fellas burst onto the scene. So this is a 624 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: very very good quite frankly, I think it is the 625 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: best receiving room in the NFL. My question to you, 626 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: I was thinking about this talking about somebody else, just 627 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: from a top two standpoint, is that the best receiver 628 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: duo in the league? Or is that Tyreek Hill and 629 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle or AJ Brown and Devonte Smith. 630 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: Tyler killin Waddee. I probably, I probably wouldn't. I just 631 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: what I what I like about. There's the best is 632 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: that the differences of the two players. 633 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Higgins big six ' four two nineteen hit. 634 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: Him on the outside, he can go up and get it, 635 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: and then Chase is just kind of everything. So I 636 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: think there's I think they're overall is best and I 637 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: think I like the difference because Wadal and Hill are 638 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: kind of similar, but they're they're electric, but they're kind 639 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: of similar, like not one isn't like a throw it 640 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: high on a fade and let him go get it guy. 641 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: They're both kind of the same guy. Yeah. 642 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 7: A J. 643 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: Brown and DeVonta are probably the ones that are closest. 644 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: I'll tell you if that Addison kids any good. 645 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: He's good, He's really good. He's really good. I think 646 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: this is the best three. The the one that's closest 647 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: is is Seattle. Probably closest we got to see with Metcalf. 648 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: I mean, but like the lock at Metcalf right now, 649 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: is the only one that would even Smith and Higgins 650 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: is level. 651 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Yeah, no, that's true. That's so probably not 652 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: it's probably I mean, this one's for sure the best three, 653 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: and I think it might be the best two. 654 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. 655 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: Very short list. 656 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: New tight end is IRV Smith been a solid player. 657 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: It's the fancy documented knows him pretty well from their 658 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: time in Minnesota. 659 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: So they're gonna throw the ball. 660 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: They do not run a ton of play action, they 661 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: do not do a ton of pre snap motion. Now 662 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: they incorporated more of that as the season went on, 663 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: But this is gonna be in many cases, a shotgun 664 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: team that's gonna drop back. They are gonna throw the ball. Irvsmith, 665 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: by the way, his peak season was twenty in Minnesota, 666 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five yards, five touchdowns. That's the 667 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: best of his career. So this is a tream that's 668 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: gonna throw to their wide receivers and then they're gonna 669 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: run it with Joe Mixon, who's got, you know, three 670 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: thousand yard seasons in his career. He had twelve hundred 671 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: and five and thirteen touchdowns in twenty one. Last year 672 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: though down to eight hundred and fourteen yard three point 673 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: nine to carry seven touchdowns, but career highs in reception 674 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: sixty catches for forty one and two touchdowns. How do 675 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: you slow them down? You have to get to Joe 676 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: Burrow and the Browns have been very effective at doing 677 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: that in the last three games against the Browns, burrow 678 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: under three hundred yards, all three under two hundred fifty 679 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 3: yards each, the last two four touchdowns, five picks zero 680 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: one hundred eight games and eleven sacks in the last 681 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: three burrow zero and four against the Browns when he 682 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: sacked two or more times than he's certain interception in 683 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: four straight games against the brown So it's that pressure 684 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: and Brown's should be in position to bring the best 685 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: pressure they ever have. Now the line, they get a 686 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: bump Orlando Brown in the mix, Lyle Collins out of 687 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: the starting lineup. Brown, four time Pro Bowler, big free 688 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: agent signing four year, sixty four million, the real deal 689 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: you got. Left guard Cordell Bolson gave up five sacks 690 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: and thirty eight pressures last year. He's a fourth round 691 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: pick of THEIRS a year ago out of North Dakota State. 692 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: I think that's a point you like our matchups in there. 693 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: Ted Carris again solid center, but unspectacular. Alex Kappa solid 694 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: at the right guard, unspectacular, and then he get to 695 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,239 Speaker 3: Jonah Williams on the right tackle, and oh boy, this 696 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: is who the Browns have to get after last year 697 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: twelve sacks and forty three pressure is one of the 698 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: worst pass blocking tackles in the NFL. In fact, in 699 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: forty two games, he's given up twenty three sacks in 700 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: his career. 701 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: Which is as crazy Downding, Yeah, that's not crazy. 702 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: So you're talking Zadarius Smith over there, You're talking Miles 703 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: over there. That's where we need to die and aid. 704 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: And you know, the truth is, my guess is what 705 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: they're going to try to do is leave Orlando Brown 706 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: one on one. 707 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's it. And Miles has had some 708 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: success there. 709 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: He has had some success there. Orlonna Brown says he 710 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: has not had success there, but he has had some 711 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: Successistics would say otherwise, they would say otherwise. So that's 712 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: the matchup. So for us, it's gonna be about the 713 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: pressure upfront. And that's why Zadarius is here, That's why 714 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: Obo Kurankuo is here, That's why Shelby Harris is here. 715 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: Get that pressure with alongside Miles Garrett. You know he's 716 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: got the sixteen sacks, the Darius last year ten sacks. 717 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: I will remind people that the second leading SAT getter 718 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: on the Browns a year ago, Haven Brian had three. 719 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 720 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: Obo Kuranko only started seven games of year own had five. 721 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about a massive upgrade in our past, 722 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: in our pass rush, back end. I'm feeling good about 723 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: Denzel Ward suppose to practice again today. I think had 724 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: a very good date yesterday. So you got him, MJ. Newsome, 725 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: those your corners, Delpit, Jan Thornhill and then Rodney McLoud. 726 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: And you know ron thorn Hill popped up on the 727 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: injury report yesterday with a calf limited, so something to 728 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: keep an eye on there. But if you had to 729 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: turn it over to McLeod, I mean, that's why he's here. 730 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: This is the guy who last year was a full 731 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 3: time starter for the Colts two picks, eight passes, defense, 732 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 3: ninety six secs, was pro football folks. Is actually their 733 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: number five safety, so he's quite quite good. The question 734 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: for us defensively right now is the linebacking corps. Just 735 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: because we haven't seen Anthony Walker, we haven't seen Seconi 736 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: Taki Taki jokay. We need him to step up and 737 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: be a star. But I like our ability to cover 738 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: their tight end and backs out of the backfield, and 739 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: we have to dedicate all of our resources to stopping 740 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase t Higgins. If Tyler Boyd beats you, kind 741 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 3: of in some ways it's like, so be it. 742 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 2: Yep. 743 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 3: You know Tyler Boyd against the Browns, he scored in 744 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: three the last five, but we've won those games. He 745 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 3: only has one hundred yard game against US. T Higgins, 746 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 3: by the way, has never had more than eighty yards 747 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: against US in his career. Chase only has one game 748 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 3: with more than fifty yards against US. 749 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 4: In his career. 750 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: We've been kryptonite for them. 751 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: We've got got to keep it going. And part of 752 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: that kryptonite is Miles Garrett. Nine games against the Bengals, 753 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: eleven sacks, five games against Joe eight sacks, six tackles 754 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: for lost, two forource fumbles, fourteen quarterback hits. He has 755 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: a sack in six straight gains against the Bengals, with 756 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: nine sacks in those six. I mean, he has been incredible. 757 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: But that's the matchup. Pressure on Joe Burrow, that is, 758 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: I feel like, that's your chance, right, That's that's it, 759 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: because if you do not pressure Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow 760 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: will make you pay. 761 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: It's funny, when you were going through all of that, 762 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: it becomes very clear that this defense was built for 763 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: that offense. 764 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 3: And honestly in ways to be able to get after 765 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. We have speed that can contain him. They 766 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: have fast receivers. The Steelers now have fat like Deontay 767 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: Johnson and Pickens. Pickins is similar to Higgins, maybe a 768 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: little more explosive. Yeah, but we're built yet to stop 769 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 3: the pass. 770 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not just. 771 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: Us, it's the Jets, it's the Bills, it's the Chiefs. 772 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: If you want to go out of this, and I'm 773 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: telling you what I think the Jags are going to 774 00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: be explosive. 775 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they should. 776 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: You've got that's what you got to deal with. And 777 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: so that's where we are. That's what we're going to 778 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: try to do, and that's really the only chance for it. 779 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: And I'll give you just a quick number right here. 780 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow without pressure last year, seventy one percent completions 781 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 3: eight yards an attempt, twenty seven touchdowns, nine picks, quarterback 782 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: wringing of one oh four. Joe Burrow under pressure. Under pressure, 783 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: by the way, don't blitz him. That's it's a very 784 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 3: difficult thing to do. Just put the five down there 785 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: or put our defense line down there and go get 786 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 3: him under pressure. Drops the fifty five percent, eight touchdowns, 787 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: three picks, six point three yards for attempt in a 788 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: rating of eighty six. So there's nowhere that he's bad. 789 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: But the drop off between pressure and kept clean is significant. 790 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 2: Certainly is we were in that conversation about who made 791 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty one, the year that 792 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 2: the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. So it's Allan, Yep, 793 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: mahomes ye, Lamar and Herbert are the four Pro Bowl selections. 794 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: That was year Herbert through for fifty five thousand year Herbert. Yeah, 795 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: my thirty were more on Lamar Jackson made the Pro Bowl. 796 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: He was twenty eight sixty two, sixteen touchdowns, thirteen picks, 797 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: seven six hundred seventy seven hundred and sixty seven yards 798 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: on the ground and crazy. 799 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: That's great. 800 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: So then now this is what I'm curious about. So, like, 801 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: Lamar didn't play in the game, and neither did Allen, 802 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: so the replacements were Mac Jones. Mac Jones is the replacement, 803 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 2: So then does mac Jones? Is he a Is that 804 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: considered a Pro Bowl? Yeah? 805 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 3: You go to Pro Football Reference and I'll do it right, now, 806 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: which is going to make both of us. Tyler Hutley, 807 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: We'll say Tyler Huntley is a one time Brole. 808 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, the thing that's crazy is like, obviously Burrow would 809 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: have been the he would have been it, but he 810 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: was in the Super Bowl. 811 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mac Jones, one time Pro Bowlers, it's considered a problem. 812 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: That's considered a Pro Bowl with Tyler Huntley, that's mis 813 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: pro of all time. 814 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: Can I just for the just for fun, can I 815 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: regale these? 816 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 4: Yeah? 817 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 3: Give it to Tyler Huntley, who made the Pro Bowl 818 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,959 Speaker 3: last year representing the AFC. That's right, played in six 819 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 3: games with four starts. He went too and two as 820 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: a starter in forced arts through for six hundred and 821 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: fifty eight yards, two touchdowns, three picks, and a quarterback 822 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: rating of seventy seven Pro Bowler. And he was named 823 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 3: a Pro Bowler. 824 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: So that's because like eight people said, no. 825 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: I guess, I mean, I don't know how. I don't 826 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: even know. 827 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: Kobe would have been better, of course by a wide, 828 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 2: march wide margin. All right, we'll do a little fantasy 829 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: football coming up next to Fantasy Minute with Doc de Z. 830 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: This is to Cleveland Browns. Zaiy brought you by bally 831 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: Bet sports betting partner your Cleveland Brown's now live at 832 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 833 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 3: Cleveland. 834 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, coming 835 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 836 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into the program. Time for the 837 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 2: Fantasy Minute, presented by sale Co Capital. Sale Co Capital 838 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: investing locally in the Midwest. We bring on our own 839 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: fantasy expert, the Great Doctor z Gibe wants three guys 840 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: that are worth playing the weekend other than the obvious. 841 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, what how about with this give 842 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: you give me your off the radar picks to click. 843 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 2: Who are some guys that you think could have big 844 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 2: years and that could start right away having big years 845 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 2: that we don't talk about enough. 846 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 5: I like this. 847 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: Obviously, you're going to play the dudes. You play your dudes, You. 848 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: Play your studs, start your studs. That's part of it. 849 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 5: Uh. 850 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 3: A guy that I like week one and for the 851 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: season is David Montgomery moves into Detroit, takes over the 852 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 3: job that Jamal Williams ended up leading the league in 853 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 3: touchdowns last year. Jamar Gibbs is going to play a 854 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 3: lot of receiver for them. Jam Gibbs Jami gives im sorry. 855 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: Jamier Gibbs is gonna play a lot of receiver for them. 856 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: Montgomery's gonna be the primary ball carrying running back and 857 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 3: they get can City week one. No Chris Jones, not 858 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: a whole lot of resistance in the middle of that 859 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 3: defensive line. I think Montgomery I like him. I think 860 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: he's going to have a very very nice game and 861 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 3: a nice season as well. I'm early portion of the 862 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 3: season if you need, like in a pinch because you've 863 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: got a Bresee Hall or maybe you're not sure on 864 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: you know, Javonte will Wlliams in terms of what if 865 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: he's going to be all the way back yet. I 866 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 3: like a couple of guys. I really like Mostert because 867 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 3: Jeff Wilson went on ir he'll be run the ball 868 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: for the Miami Dolphins. I like as well, Samaji p 869 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 3: Ryan as a compliment and a PPR kind of as 870 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: a flex. And then I think DeAndre Swift is being 871 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 3: way overlooked. I think DeAndre Swift is going to have 872 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 3: a monster season in Philly. Like if you look at 873 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 3: how productive he is always he just stay healthy. But 874 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 3: if he while he is healthy and on the field. 875 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 3: I think that he's being looked at as a low 876 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: end running back. Three. I think that while he is upright, 877 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 3: he is going to be a top twenty running back. 878 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 2: I agree. 879 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 3: So there you go. There's a couple of them quarterback. 880 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 3: You want some quarterbacks, so there's some running backs quarterbacks 881 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 3: for you. I think Gino Smith is an excellent value. 882 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 3: I think our guy is a great value to Sean Watson. 883 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: I think you could start both of those guys. And 884 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, like is not getting any respect from a 885 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 3: fantasy standpoint. 886 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: NBC got him like in the fourth to last round. Yeah, 887 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 2: I kept telling him, don't take a quarterback, don't worry, 888 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: and he's like, panickin. I'm like, dude. And then Roger 889 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 2: it was like at the end, it was like between 890 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: Rogers and Lawrence and I'm like, look at all the 891 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 2: dudes you got between now and then, and yes, is 892 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 2: are you sure? Like, is Aaron Rodgers going to be 893 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 2: exponentially worse than Josh Allen. I have a hard time believing. 894 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 3: That he's not going to give you the running, But 895 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's gonna be. I think he's 896 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 3: gonna be prolific this year. 897 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: I'm all, I think it's Manning Denver. I know that's high, 898 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 2: but I think it's Manning. 899 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 3: They got me hook line and sinker on that on 900 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 3: that program. There wide receivers, big on George Pickens obviously. 901 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 3: I think Jordan Addison is going to be a stud 902 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: I think Terry McLaurin is going to be great in 903 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 3: Washington again this year. He's good. I think pretty much 904 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 3: every year. I think down the line, you know, Zay Flowers, 905 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jig but I think we'll both be 906 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 3: very good. I think Elijah Moore for us is an absolute, 907 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 3: absolute steal. And then if you want a super late 908 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 3: round guy, you know that over the course of the 909 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 3: year somebody maybe even be on your waiver wire to 910 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 3: stash Mingo in Carolina. I like him. I think he 911 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 3: ends up being price his number one guy. Adam Deeling 912 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 3: is Adam Deelan is not a number one receiver. 913 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't really have, so those the one thing 914 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: for them that they don't they don't really have. 915 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 3: That's some And then tight ends for you. For example, 916 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 3: if you're if if we get to the situation we 917 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 3: do not have Kelsey tonight you know, Tyler Higbee with 918 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 3: the Rams, I think is no Cooper Kuple, Like he's 919 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 3: got to throw the ball to somebody. I think he's 920 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 3: got an opportunity to do quite a bit there. 921 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 7: Uh. 922 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 3: I like Dalton Kincaid as well in Buffalo. And then 923 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: Laporta you've been high on and you told me about 924 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 3: him with Detroit and then okwan Quo with Tennessee. I 925 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: think is going to have a nice season. So those 926 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 3: are kind of like the laterish tight ends. 927 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you got to think about a situation, 928 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: you know, like in the Detroit situation with Laporta, like 929 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 2: no Jamison Williams, so that shifts Jamier Gibbs into more 930 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 2: of a downfield threat thing. And then they got to 931 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: have somebody underneath with I'm Ron Saint Brown. So that's 932 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: kind of how that operation works. I think the one 933 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: that's there's so many operations that are going to be 934 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: tough to figure out. I think Kansas City is a 935 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: tough one. Outside of I don't know what that one 936 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: that could happen. Anything could happen in there with the receivers. 937 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of buzz on sky Moore 938 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 2: in camp, but like there was buzz last year on him, 939 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: so it's just like like, you know, you Kelsey's gonna 940 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: be do good. But other than that, you kind of 941 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: just wait on it. 942 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 3: And it feels like it's gonna be. We even had 943 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 3: Adam Tystron he said, it feels like it's gonna be 944 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 3: more week to week. One area in fantasy where it 945 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: is totally okay to stream is on the defense. So 946 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 3: this week, the best streamers are the Ravens against Houston, 947 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders against Arizona. 948 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you will. 949 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 3: I think you want to. You want to wet your 950 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 3: beak on that. The Seahawks against the Rams I think 951 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 3: is a pretty good stream this week, and the Jags 952 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 3: defense against Indianapolis I think is a good stream this 953 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 3: week as well. So you can always stream your defenses. 954 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 3: Don't be afraid to do that. 955 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: Go ahead and and and get that going, by the way, 956 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 2: I always do that. 957 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to, because that's the one that's the 958 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 3: most matchup dependent, that is the most matchup dependent. And 959 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: as for us this week, you know, I think you 960 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 3: can play our defense. I think as long as you're 961 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 3: if there aren't like big penalties for you know, points 962 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 3: and yards aren't as important as like sacks and you know, 963 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 3: think and takeaways. You know, like I said, we've got 964 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 3: eleven sacks of Joe Burrow in five games. We've sacked 965 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 3: him in the last I'm sorry, in the last three games. 966 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 3: We have eleven sacks of Burrow and he's thrown an 967 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 3: interception in four straight games, with five of them total 968 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 3: against the Browns. So I think you'll get a chance 969 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 3: to get some turnovers there from our d. But offensively 970 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: for us, obviously, you're playing Nick Chubb, Amari Cooper. You 971 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 3: know DPJ. Last time he saw this team, he put 972 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 3: up one hundred and fourteen yards on them, a career high. 973 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: He got Elijah Moore, he got Chief scored against them 974 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 3: the last time we played. Called the first touchdown from 975 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 3: Shaun Watson and DeShawn If I was ranking him, Chubb 976 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 3: is automatic. I'm starting Watson without any hesitation. I'm starting Amari, 977 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: and I'm starting Elijah Moore and Chief DPJ would have 978 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 3: to be a deeper league for me to start. I 979 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 3: just think we're going to get the ball in Elijah 980 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 3: Moore's hands with a lot of what I would call 981 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 3: long handoffs. 982 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 7: I like it. 983 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 4: I see was it that difficult? 984 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 2: No, we crushed it. 985 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 4: You crushed it. We crushed You're the guy. 986 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 2: This is this, this is what he does. 987 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 3: Don't try to don't try to butter me up. After 988 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 3: you told me I was a. 989 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 2: Thursday influence. 990 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 3: They said I was a bad influence. He said, you 991 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: do want him? Talk to him? He's a bad influence. 992 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: As I told you earlier, I'm no angel I know. 993 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: Do you want to hear the reason you were? You 994 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 3: were deep in your your other stuff. Did you hear why? 995 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 3: He said I actually was a bad influence? 996 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 2: Give it to me. 997 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 3: I'll e let him say why was I? 998 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: Why? 999 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 4: What were How did you say to skirt the system? 1000 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 4: How to manipulate things that go your to go your way? 1001 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 4: How to I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you. 1002 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 3: Sounds like great life skills. 1003 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, if you can 1004 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: do that successfully, pretty good boy. If you can do 1005 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 2: it profession if you can do it elite, elite life. 1006 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: It takes a lot of you've got to play with 1007 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 2: the role. 1008 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 3: But if you're trying to figure out, like remember the 1009 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 3: game when Bill Belichick had tight ends lining up like 1010 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 3: linemen and then all of a sudden they're running free. 1011 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 3: That was within the rules, and he found a way 1012 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 3: to take advantage of it. I mean, I don't think 1013 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: there's anything wrong with that. I'm not I'm not up 1014 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 3: here advocating to be a rule breaker. They're not worried 1015 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 3: about me crossing borders. No, I'm like here to that's right, 1016 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 3: just to try to maximize, you know, our output with 1017 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,479 Speaker 3: the within the playing field and parameters were given. 1018 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 2: I feel like that's a great lie. That's I think 1019 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 2: that's a wonderful thing for hib. I think he's got 1020 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 2: a lot of those traits. He and Boots, you both 1021 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: have a lot of those traits. Good in them of 1022 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: trying to of putting themselves in advantageous positions to succeed 1023 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 2: by getting the most out of the system. 1024 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 3: Why would you want to a position to fail? No, No, 1025 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 3: that's their operator. 1026 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 2: Like, they're pretty pretty savvy operators failing at this point, 1027 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: pretty savvy. All right, we've got a little guest the 1028 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: spread with doctor Z. We've got a little uh matchup 1029 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 2: going the other way, our offense versus a Bengals defense 1030 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 2: that you talked about this yesterday. Back end suspect. Yes, 1031 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 2: especially deep and in the middle. We've got a al 1032 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 2: big Thursday edition as well. Tweet the questions at Browns 1033 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 2: Underscore Daily. We will get to those in the two 1034 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: thirty hour Second Hour Coming up next. 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Tequila Fila has a new haircut. 1044 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 4: Yes, and. 1045 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 2: The beautiful mop that I don't even know. Listen, I'm 1046 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 2: not telling you, I'm not saying I don't. It's just shocking. 1047 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 3: Other people look at it clicked up on the sides. 1048 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 3: Looks like we went with a nice fade there. It 1049 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 3: looks like one to two maybe. Yeah, well, well it's 1050 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 3: not my first rodeo. 1051 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it looks clean. It's a shocking 1052 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 2: turn of events. I like, there was a mop, there 1053 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: was a panache that came with the mop. 1054 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 3: There was, but he still has the stash. 1055 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 2: I think this. 1056 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 3: Bring the come back out here, Tequla FeelA, show him 1057 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 3: the arm. Tell me tell me what you got U 1058 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 3: at the hop party? 1059 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: Got forearm? 1060 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 3: Let's go look at that. That's awesome. 1061 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 2: Jeff's is there too for arm? 1062 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 7: Right? 1063 00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? Permanent? 1064 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 5: Right? 1065 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 3: So that's how that goes. 1066 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 2: It's always a bold decision. 1067 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny when you like and then you go 1068 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 3: and like when he's like seventy year old tequila fila. 1069 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 7: And. 1070 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: I just think of everything to the prism of like 1071 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 2: my boys, like if they say, Dad, why do you 1072 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 2: have a skull on your forearm? 1073 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 8: Party? 1074 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 2: And everyone was doing it? 1075 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 8: Why not? 1076 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I? 1077 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't I? 1078 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 2: I have I think I'm gonna like it. I gotta 1079 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: get used to it. 1080 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 3: I got a permanent. 1081 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a person that when I was looking 1082 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: at the runt, I was going to do one of that. 1083 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 3: It's great. 1084 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 2: But the problem is is that when I was going 1085 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 2: to do it, the line. 1086 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 3: Was too long. Yeah, and the best part about it is, well, 1087 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 3: it's said to be permanent, not not not the rest 1088 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,959 Speaker 3: of my life. I could cut this right. 1089 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 2: Off, cut it right off. That you could a little 1090 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 2: bit of laser. 1091 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 3: Expensive, painful, expensive and painful. 1092 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. 1093 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 3: I think that what he should do on his skull though, 1094 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 3: to give it more him is like put his old 1095 00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 3: haircut and mustache on. 1096 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 2: That's call well the mustache, sure, and then yeah. 1097 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 3: The hair the flop. Yeah, yeah, give it like that. 1098 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: I think this will look. I do think I'm going 1099 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 2: to get used to this though. I think this will 1100 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 2: be Okay, No, listen, he's here, he's here to take over. 1101 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 2: This is part of the Yeah, this is part of 1102 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 2: the takeover. This is the field takeover. Make himself, you know. 1103 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 3: I think he's just he's saying, I want to be 1104 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 3: as presentable and as legitimate as I possibly can be. 1105 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 2: He's got to be. He's in a room full of 1106 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: legitimacy back there, all right, he's got to be on there. 1107 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: You ready for this? 1108 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing it so so you always keep track of it. 1109 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 2: I will. 1110 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 3: I'll keep track of it as well. But what we're 1111 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 3: going for sixteen games? We have sixteen games, so my 1112 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 3: goal is to get to nine and seven is a win. 1113 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 3: Last year, towards the end, you were almost too good. 1114 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 3: I got it, got too good. Yeah, you were able 1115 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 3: to see how it all works. So the idea is 1116 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 3: we will guess the spread with doctor Z early in 1117 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 3: the years where it's the hardest because they don't they don't, 1118 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 3: they don't know, they don't know. By the end of 1119 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 3: the year, they're living in pretty finite buckets. 1120 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they're in a pretty good Okay, you're ready 1121 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 2: for this, all right, Let's start tonight Detroit at Kansas City, 1122 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl champs, the Lions getting the big stage 1123 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: for the Leos, big stage. What do you have to 1124 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: be in within a half point? 1125 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,720 Speaker 3: It used to be it was a whole point either direction, 1126 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 3: But then I think we. 1127 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 2: We I think we have to do a half because 1128 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: so much of these are around as they are, they're 1129 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: always usually run a field goal, So a full point 1130 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 2: feels like, I think I gotta do a half point 1131 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 2: higher standard. Private school, I mean Santa. 1132 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 3: Pedro were going like twelve and four. Yeah, private school 1133 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 3: had come on, let's I want to let's in. I'm 1134 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 3: going to keep two. So I'm going to keep if 1135 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 3: I got it for a half and for a hole. 1136 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 3: So okay, we'll see what difference it makes, all right, 1137 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 3: I'm going with I wrote down Chiefs Ye minus five, 1138 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 3: got it, got minus four point five those I got 1139 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 3: them both. Arizona at Washington, Arizona at Washington, Commander's minus seven. 1140 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 2: Nailed it on it exactly. Jaguars at Indy. 1141 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 3: Jags minus four and a half. 1142 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 2: Got it five. 1143 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 4: It was not fun. I don't get to make fun 1144 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 4: of it. 1145 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 3: So far, we're hot. 1146 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 2: Carolina, way to go, get back? Could go three Carolina. 1147 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 3: Atlanta, Carolina at Atlanta, Atlanta minus three, got it mine as. 1148 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 2: Three point five. Houston at Baltimore, it's Baltimore on it exactly. 1149 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 2: Cincinnati at Cleveland. 1150 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 3: Since I've seen this one, Browns plus two and a half. 1151 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 2: That's it exactly. I think you've seen that. Take Tampa 1152 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 2: Bay at Minnesota. 1153 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 3: Got I'd be killing Simmons and the Couzin. 1154 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 2: You'd crush them. 1155 00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tampa Bay at Minnesota, yep, Minnesota minus three, Minnesota 1156 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 3: minus five and a half. 1157 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 2: What, Yep, that's the first. That's the Tennessee at New Orleans, 1158 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 2: Titans at New Orleans, New Orleans minus four. No, New 1159 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 2: Orleans minus three gibbe. So in the old days you 1160 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 2: would have got it, New days you don't. Yes, you 1161 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 2: built yourself nice little San Francisco. 1162 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 3: At Pittsburgh Niners minus two and a half. 1163 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 2: On it, nailed it. It was one and a half 1164 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: and then went to two and a half with the 1165 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 2: Bosa News ram It at. 1166 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 3: Seattle, Seattle minus six and a half. 1167 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 2: Old days would have got it, New days don't. Five 1168 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 2: and a half. 1169 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 3: Yes, So I'm at old days, I'm at nine. Yeah, 1170 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 3: and I'm only at seven on the New days. Philly 1171 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 3: half a point's a big difference. 1172 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 8: Yeah, But I what I. 1173 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 2: Noticed last year was like everything was two and a half, three, 1174 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 2: three and a half. 1175 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 3: Like if it's you know I have, then I gotta go. 1176 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 2: The league is all parodies, So like there it's two 1177 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 2: one's too much. Philly at New England. 1178 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 3: Philly minus three and a half. 1179 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 2: On it, Miami at Chargers. 1180 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 3: Chargers minus one and a half, No Chargers minus three, wowk. 1181 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:31,439 Speaker 2: Vegas at Denver, Vegas at Denver Denver minus three. Got 1182 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: it Denver minus three and a half. Green Bay at 1183 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:43,439 Speaker 2: Chicago gream Bay minus justin fields two and a half 1184 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 2: Chicago minus one whoa, that's way off Dallas at the 1185 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 2: g Men, g Men, g Men minus one and a half, 1186 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 2: Dallas minus three and a half. 1187 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 4: Wow, it's an awful lot of confidence. 1188 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 5: Wow. 1189 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 2: That is finally Buffalo at the Jets at jet Life Stadium. 1190 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 2: Now jet Life is going back to back. They got 1191 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 2: Sunday night Monday night back to back. 1192 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 4: That's a quick turnaround. 1193 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: Is Bills minus one no Bills minus two and a half? 1194 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 2: Oh wow, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine. And 1195 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: that's a winning week. At a half point, I would 1196 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 2: have been eleven and five. That's a big, big difference. Yeah, 1197 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 2: high standards. 1198 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 3: That's fine, that's a win. So we're we're one and out. 1199 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 2: To wind Doug as you go through those and we 1200 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 2: will do the scores tomorrow on the program. Which ones 1201 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: jump out as well? 1202 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 3: The ones that I was way off on so Green 1203 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 3: Chicago Dallas Giants. Yes, those were the two where I was. 1204 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,399 Speaker 2: There's a lot of faith off Chicago as a three 1205 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 2: and three and fourteen team a year ago. There's a 1206 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: lot of belief in them that I have a hard 1207 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 2: time and I like Fields a lot, but I do 1208 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 2: think that it's kind of one of those situations where 1209 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 2: his fantasy greatness. Yes, people think is the football greatness, 1210 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,280 Speaker 2: and there wasn't a whole lot last year to suggest 1211 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 2: that the football greatness. I mean, he was good, he 1212 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 2: was a dynamic player, but it's did one thing to 1213 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 2: be a dynamic player. It's another thing to be like 1214 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 2: a winning quarterback in the league. Yes, and maybe I 1215 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 2: just have blind faith in the Packers. 1216 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 3: I feel like Lafleor's. I think Peter's a good coach, 1217 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 3: and I think that they still do have some talent. 1218 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 3: I'm a little concerned with Christian wattson them. It's popped 1219 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 3: up on the injury for the hammy. 1220 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to see that, especially for somebody counting 1221 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 2: on to be a key, key member the suiting. 1222 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 3: Snakes don't want to see that at all. 1223 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 2: No, can't. Don't want to see that. What was the 1224 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 2: other one, the Chargers. 1225 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 3: Chargers of Miami. I'm into that game a lot. 1226 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a full, a full home field advantage for 1227 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 2: a team that doesn't have it. So they're probably saying 1228 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 2: that LA's a four point. Didn't think they're that much better. 1229 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 2: I mean it's a team, let's be it, that is 1230 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 2: a very very good team. Yeah, yeah, very good team. 1231 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 2: All right, there you go. There it is. That's how 1232 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 2: that works. D I like look, I like it. 1233 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 3: I'm feeling good about it. I feel like we got 1234 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 3: We've got a lot to get to here still as 1235 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 3: well in this program. But I'm very excited about Mailbag 1236 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 3: a VP. 1237 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's coming up next. In fact, ABP will 1238 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 2: get you the breakdown of our offense versus the Bengals defense. 1239 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 2: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by 1240 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 2: bally Bet sports betting partner, your Cleveland Browns now live 1241 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 2: in Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1242 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Duck coming 1243 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 1244 00:57:49,320 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Fans Amacanas from Peru will be at the 1245 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 2: Stowe Meyer location one to three on Friday. 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Meet Felix right for more info was at 1249 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 2: the Browns Facebook page and you will find it there. 1250 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 2: And now, from about an hour ago, offensive coordinator Alex 1251 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 2: Van Pelt at the podium, you just talk a little bit. 1252 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 10: About how you've seen Deshaun progressed throughout the three season. 1253 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 9: You come along with everything. 1254 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 12: You guys are asking him to do this Sure, yeah, no, 1255 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 12: I think he's done a great job, much more comfortable 1256 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 12: than where he had been in the past, you know, 1257 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 12: an off season to kind of understand the offense and 1258 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 12: figure out how we're trying. 1259 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 5: To scheme things up. I think he has a great 1260 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 5: understanding for that now. 1261 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 12: Really dove in took ownership of it, and really, for me, 1262 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 12: it was the last few practices of the mini camp 1263 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 12: where like, Okay, this guy's different than he was you 1264 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 12: know earlier times on the practice field, really lit up 1265 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 12: and started to really command the offense and understand everything 1266 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 12: we're asking him to do. Getting Marquise back when he 1267 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 12: can help open things up with that offense. 1268 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 5: In the passing game, that's an area that we like. 1269 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 12: You know, he gives you great speed, great experience as 1270 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,959 Speaker 12: a player, has made a ton of plays in the league, 1271 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 12: and having that that ability to run through defenses and 1272 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 12: push the the coverage deeper is obviously going to help 1273 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 12: any team. 1274 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 5: But not only is he fast, he's also a very 1275 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,439 Speaker 5: good receiver. So we'll use him in multiple ways. 1276 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 10: He had a really strong camp in preseason. What how 1277 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 10: did you see him improve from. 1278 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 5: Previous a couple of years. 1279 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 12: Yeah, Dave's obviously a talented player, one of the top 1280 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 12: wise in my opinion. I mean, he can do both 1281 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 12: in the run game and what he does in the 1282 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 12: past games exceptional as well. He's another guy that just 1283 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 12: continues to grow. Is this his fourth year now in 1284 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 12: the system, So his understanding and knowledge, you know, of 1285 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 12: what we ask him to do. 1286 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 5: You know, he's improved as a route runner. 1287 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 12: He's caught the ball extremely well for us, and then 1288 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 12: when he blocks, he's as physical as there is in 1289 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 12: the league. So he's He's really had a strong camp 1290 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 12: and the last couple of years has really come on 1291 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 12: as a as a top why in the league. 1292 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 4: A lot of empty formation in the preseason games, and 1293 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 4: of course wasn't all Dashawn, Sure dtr allowed. 1294 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 2: To But is that kind of a concession to something. 1295 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 8: That Shall wants? 1296 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. I think we all want it. 1297 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 12: I think he you know, he obviously his strengths are 1298 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 12: uh when you get people spread out, his ability to 1299 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 12: move in the pocket and create uh when things don't 1300 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 12: work out or if he decides to take off with 1301 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 12: the ball, that gives you more space to do so. 1302 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 12: But we've always been a pretty heavy, you know, empty 1303 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 12: formation team before him. I think we'll see it as much, 1304 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 12: if not, maybe a little more, a little less. But 1305 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 12: that's nothing that you know, we've decided to do because 1306 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 12: of DeShawn. I think we've always been that way and 1307 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 12: it'll just play to his strengths. 1308 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 5: What difference this year is. 1309 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 4: That Chubb is on the field more and so he's. 1310 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 8: On a lot of scrimmage more. 1311 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 4: Than he's been in the past. 1312 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 12: Down to that, oh, I think Nick will be just fine, 1313 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 12: you know, whether it's the ball in his hands out 1314 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 12: of the backfield as a receiver or handed it to him, 1315 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 12: whether we're under in the shotgun. I think Nickel fit 1316 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 12: in well. He's his skill set. He's not just a 1317 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 12: dot runner, you know, he's not an under center just 1318 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 12: wide zone runner. He can do a lot of different things, 1319 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 12: you know. And and the way he gets ready for 1320 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 12: the for the season in the offseason, with his training, his. 1321 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 5: Ability to run with the football. 1322 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 12: I feel good about throwing it to him, handed it 1323 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 12: to him from the gun they were under under center. 1324 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 3: What makes the Bengals defense so good. 1325 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 6: Uh. 1326 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 5: You know, I've been around Blu a lot. I got 1327 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 5: a lot of respect for Lou. 1328 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 12: I think it's one of the top coordinators in the league. 1329 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 12: The thing that lou will do will show you different things, 1330 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 12: you know, much like punch and CounterPunch. You know, you'll 1331 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 12: you'll get different looks, You'll get the same look over 1332 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,479 Speaker 12: and over with two or three different variations of that look. 1333 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 5: I think he does a nice job at keeping you 1334 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 5: off guard and keeping you guessing, you know. 1335 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 12: But then they play hard, you know, obviously, it's a 1336 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 12: defense that that finishes really well. It's a big motor, 1337 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 12: you know, a challenge for us to play at our 1338 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 12: level and you know with our finish and our ability 1339 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 12: to play to the echo with the whistle has been 1340 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 12: something we've talked about all. 1341 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 10: Week, particularly true their d ends against your tackles. 1342 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 12: Absolutely, there was a playworth I think they got a 1343 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 12: hit or a sackle on Jacobe last year where he 1344 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 12: moved around in the pocket and we kind of, you know, 1345 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 12: let the time clock expire. 1346 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 5: You know, we've talked a lot about that. 1347 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 12: But those two edge rushers, you know, they're going to 1348 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 12: go till the till the end of the whistle, so 1349 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 12: we have to you know, mindset is we're going to 1350 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 12: play it, you know, to the echo of the whistle 1351 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 12: as well. Infinity and pass protection, doesn't matter how long 1352 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 12: we got to hold him out, the mad minute, all 1353 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 12: those things that goes into it. But you know, as 1354 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 12: we grow and learn more about the Shawan, you know 1355 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 12: his ability to break tackles within the pocket extend plays. 1356 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 12: It really heightens our awareness as an offensive line to 1357 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 12: continue to fight until the play is finally over, when you're. 1358 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 2: Be able to put it all out there. You had 1359 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 2: to go over the first couple of weeks in the 1360 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 2: season for you. 1361 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 3: How do you balance the exciting of wanting to put 1362 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 3: the work trick. 1363 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 9: Done on the field and leave one. 1364 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 7: Against tep opponent and knowing that. 1365 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 3: It might take some time to lay it all out there. 1366 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's the hard part as a coach. You know, 1367 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 12: there's two things that kill coaches in that opener, and 1368 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 12: that's time and tape. So you have all the time 1369 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 12: in the world with all the tape to watch them, 1370 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 12: so you start chasing ghost. You start doing a lot 1371 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 12: of things that normally you won't have time to do 1372 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 12: during the normal season. So you know, Kevin has done 1373 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 12: a great job of letting us know as a staff 1374 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 12: that we need to keep this plan tight. 1375 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 5: It's about execution and it's about finish. It's not really 1376 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 5: about the scheme so much. It's just how well we 1377 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 5: can operate within the scheme. 1378 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 7: Right here, it was you know, tight ends and fullbacks 1379 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 7: and that now this is year four, full. 1380 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 3: Back not not nearly as important. 1381 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 7: There's not even one on the roster, you know, David's 1382 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 7: kind of your your number one tight end. There just 1383 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 7: touch the the evolution that you guys have made offensively 1384 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 7: here coming in with one philosophy and now you're you know, 1385 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 7: having to. 1386 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 5: Fit with the person. 1387 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 12: I mean, that's the that's the story of coaching, right 1388 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 12: adjusting adapt to the players that you have and putting 1389 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 12: them in the best position to be successful. And I 1390 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 12: think that's just kind of how we've evolved offensively. You know, 1391 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 12: we're not stuck in this certain system. You know, we 1392 01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,120 Speaker 12: can be multiple versatile with different people out there. So 1393 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 12: I think that's one of the things that's the strength 1394 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 12: of ours. 1395 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 9: I know with the Sean like when Kevin or basically 1396 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 9: anyone talks about him, like the football junkie aspect of 1397 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 9: his personality comes up. I guess have you seen that 1398 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 9: like rub off on some. 1399 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 8: Of the rest of the offense. 1400 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, And I think he leads by example for starters. 1401 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 12: I think he loves football, that's evident, and he sees 1402 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 12: it extremely well. When you sit and talk ball and 1403 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 12: watch film. I mean, he has a great vision of 1404 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 12: what he sees in front of him, and then the 1405 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 12: little things he does on the side bringing the guys in, 1406 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 12: having those extra meetings where he runs and directs the meetings. 1407 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 5: I think he got to follow a leader like that 1408 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 5: perception out there. 1409 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 9: Not really sure exactly where it came from or how it. 1410 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 7: Came that he didn't have a very good camp or 1411 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 7: he didn't look good at times during training camp. 1412 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 2: You know, what do you say to them? 1413 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 12: I would say it probably came back from the red 1414 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 12: zone periods against our defense. Everybody can admit that's one 1415 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 12: of the hardest drills in football. 1416 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 5: So we like that. It's hard. 1417 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 12: There's not a lot of space and we're not running 1418 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 12: the football, so it makes it tough on him. So 1419 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 12: but you know, all that training again is going to 1420 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 12: pay dividends in the end. Those weren't the best rials 1421 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 12: offensively for us, Again, we didn't scheme what we were 1422 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 12: trying to do to beat that that defense. 1423 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,919 Speaker 5: We were trying to work on our craft and work 1424 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 5: on our our scheme that we have in in that areas. 1425 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 12: So I would say that's not true in that regards, 1426 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 12: but I can definitely see how that would look to 1427 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 12: the outside of world. As you watch a lot of 1428 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 12: those tight red zone seven on sevens where you might 1429 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 12: have two or three completions out of say six or eight, 1430 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 12: you know, it may look like that. But again, that's 1431 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 12: really the hardest drill of the day for the quarterback 1432 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 12: is a seven on seven of the red zone and compete. 1433 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 10: Last year ended for Mari with that injury. Does he 1434 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 10: look like he's back to the guy that started the 1435 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 10: year last year? 1436 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 12: For ye Yeah, really it's it's it's uh man, what 1437 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 12: a tough guy he was to stick it out last 1438 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 12: year for us. I'm just thinking about the you know, 1439 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 12: you watch the games from early in the year and 1440 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 12: since we played him here on Halloween, and the guy 1441 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 12: that was out there compared to the guy that that 1442 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 12: came on the field, you know, attribute to him to 1443 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 12: fight through in battle for his brothers. 1444 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 5: But you know, he looks like he's back to the 1445 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 5: old Mari right now after the injury. 1446 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 2: There you go, let's get to it. It is a 1447 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 2: matchup Day presented by ballet Bets Sports betting Party Cleveland 1448 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 2: Brown's now Live in Ohio. Our offense versus the Bengals 1449 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 2: defense Dot Dizzy. 1450 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 3: All right, and this I think, obviously it's going to 1451 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 3: be a big one. And we'll start from the perspective 1452 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 3: of the Bengals defense is a defense that's going to 1453 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 3: be in their subpackaged look. That means five or more 1454 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 3: dbs about eighty two percent of the time. In terms 1455 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 3: of the coverages they liked to play. Cover three last 1456 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 3: year was their leader. They were played that thirty percent 1457 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 3: of the time. Man one twenty percent was their second 1458 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,919 Speaker 3: most used coverage last season. Cover two was third. Middle 1459 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 3: of field was open, about fifty was open. About middlefield 1460 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 3: was open I'm sorry, forty two percent of the time 1461 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 3: it was closed about fifty seven percent of the time. 1462 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 3: Of the times that they did a coverage, they disguise 1463 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 3: at about twenty two percent times, so it'd show middlefield open, 1464 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 3: finished with middlefield closed, or vice versa. About twenty two 1465 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 3: percent of the time. Now, one of the reason they 1466 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 3: were able to do that and do a lot of 1467 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 3: disguise was how good Jesse Bates and Von Bell were 1468 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 3: and that they were somewhat interchangeable. The question is will 1469 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 3: they do that as much with these new safeties, And 1470 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 3: the answer to that is right now, well, we just 1471 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 3: don't know. We don't know what that's gonna look like. 1472 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 3: One thing to be on lookout for is they actually 1473 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 3: play cover zero five point eight percent of the time, 1474 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 3: so not often, but that was actually the fourth most 1475 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 3: in the NFL. So they are not afraid to bring 1476 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 3: the house. They don't blitz a ton, but when they 1477 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 3: do they've been pretty effective. Is a blitzing defense, So 1478 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 3: who do they've got upfront? The pro bowler Trey Hendrickson, 1479 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 3: two time Pro bowler last year, led the team with 1480 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 3: eight sacks, but this was a team that didn't have 1481 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 3: a lot of sex, only thirty last year. Twenty ninth 1482 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 3: in the NFL. They're the twenty third rinked pass defense. 1483 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 3: But where do they get you? Turnovers they take to 1484 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 3: the ball away and twenty four takeaways and in the 1485 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 3: red zone they were the ninth stingiest defense in the 1486 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 3: red zone in the NFL, when you turn sevens into threes, 1487 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 3: you are able to win games. So that's what they did. 1488 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 3: So upfront, Hendrickson and Hubbard are your two primary pass rushers. 1489 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 3: They combined for fourteen and a half sacks a year ago. 1490 01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 3: In the middle, you got big DJ Reader and bj 1491 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 3: Hill Hill Moore of the pass rusher. Reader very good 1492 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 3: at stopping the run and they are a tough team 1493 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 3: to run on up the middle, which is why the 1494 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 3: Browns always try to tack them, typically on the edges. 1495 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 3: They've got two good linebackers, Jermaine Pratt and Logan Wilson. 1496 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,679 Speaker 3: Last year they combined for two hundred and twenty two tackles. 1497 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 3: They combined last year for three interceptions fourteen passes defense. 1498 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 3: So this was a very good linebacking court and they 1499 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 3: have the two guys on the field the majority of 1500 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 3: the time. Their third linebacker, a Keeam Davis Gaither was 1501 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 3: the one who will not be excited to see James 1502 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 3: Hudson again. Back End, Mike Hilton, the veteran, he's a 1503 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 3: team captain. He is a good slot corner. Doesn't blitz 1504 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 3: much with the Bengals like he did with the Steelers. 1505 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 3: But he can play can cover was last year sixty 1506 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 3: eight percent completions, eighty six rating in coverage, had an 1507 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 3: interception for them. The other corner, Cam Taylor Britt, only 1508 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 3: started nine games. Charles Davis was very high on him yesterday, 1509 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,679 Speaker 3: but he gave up sixty one percent completions one hundred 1510 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 3: and nine rating. In fact, DPJ had his best game 1511 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 3: ever against Camp Taylor Britt down in Cincy when he 1512 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 3: went for one hundred fourteen year guards to give up 1513 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 3: ten catches for one fifty four in the two games 1514 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 3: against US, but he did have an interception in the 1515 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 3: Division round of the playoffs. It was his interception that 1516 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 3: actually sealed the win over the Buffalo Bills. So they 1517 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 3: like him. They think that he's an ascending player. The 1518 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 3: other side's going to be chidobe A Woozia. And I 1519 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 3: think this is again coming back off of a torn 1520 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 3: acl suffered against US on Halloween night. Where is he at, 1521 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 3: where's his conditioning at? What are they able to do 1522 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 3: to him? That'll be interesting to see. And then the safeties, 1523 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 3: this is where I think it very vulnerable. Dak Hill, 1524 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 3: their first round pick a year ago, did not perform 1525 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 3: well as a rookie, they're counting on him to just 1526 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 3: step in and take over. And then Nick Scott, who 1527 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 3: had one of the worst coverage grades of any safety 1528 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 3: in the NFL last year, which was his first year 1529 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 3: as a starter. 1530 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 2: He's a former seventh round pick of the Rams. 1531 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 3: He started last year two picks five passes defense, but 1532 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 3: in coverage gave up a one hundred and six rating. 1533 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 3: And they're replacing Baits and Bell. So if I'm the Browns, 1534 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm running at the guys on the end because Hubbard 1535 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 3: two sixty five Henderson two seventy feels like a little 1536 01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 3: bit less resistance than what you're gonna get in the 1537 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 3: middle of three eleven three point thirty five, and then 1538 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 3: they bring in Josh Tupo at three forty, so they 1539 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 3: can be huge in the middle. I like our chances 1540 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,800 Speaker 3: with Nijoku against the linebackers. Wilson does have the center 1541 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: of seven interceptions, but I think you can get him 1542 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 3: from an athletic standpoint with David Njoku, and then I 1543 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 3: think we challenge their secondary. I think there's nobody there 1544 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 3: that I would be afraid to throw the ball at. 1545 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,640 Speaker 3: Challenge these guys and then make those safeties run concepts 1546 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 3: and combinations that force those safeties to make decisions. And 1547 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 3: what I'm curious about is if because of these safeties, 1548 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 3: do we think that they will live in a more 1549 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 3: Cover two than we're used to seeing from them. 1550 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 5: Is this? 1551 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 3: Are they going to just say, let's play these two 1552 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 3: guys deep, don't give up any big plays, and if 1553 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 3: that happens, look for a lot of Nick Chubb. I 1554 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 3: think the Browns are really gonna be able to run 1555 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,680 Speaker 3: the ball effectively with Nick Chubb if they're in Cover two, 1556 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 3: and I think we'll try to run them out of 1557 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,440 Speaker 3: cover two to get us into advantageous passing situations. 1558 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 2: How would you best describe what you think our operation 1559 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 2: will be Sunday? What will look like? Offensively? Just say 1560 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 2: if it went his way and it went to script, 1561 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 2: what would it look like? 1562 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,400 Speaker 3: Mix of under center and shotgun, mix of straight run 1563 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 3: plays and then some read option type plays obviously play action. 1564 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 3: I think that we will push the ball down the field, 1565 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 3: but I think there will be a lot of just 1566 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 3: take the layups. If they're gonna play cover two, run 1567 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 3: those quick little sticks, get the seven yards, you know, 1568 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 3: get the ball. As I said, some long handoffs to 1569 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 3: Elijah Moore in space. I think trying to use our 1570 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 3: speed at the perimeter to get guys outside in the edge. 1571 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 3: Whether those are quick screens, whether that's you know, getting 1572 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 3: a guy coming across the formation and just getting it 1573 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 3: to them while he's already running. I think that those 1574 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 3: are some of the things the Browns will be able 1575 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 3: to do. But I do think we're gonna take some 1576 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 3: shots down the field, and I think we're gonna run 1577 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 3: a lot of digs because Desham throws a dig very well, 1578 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 3: and I think we run a lot of those digs, 1579 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 3: and then we'll be able to get those read the 1580 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 3: safeties on those and figure out when we can run 1581 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 3: that dig and then sneak that post in behind them 1582 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 3: and try to hit the big shot play. I can't 1583 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 3: I just can't wait to see this operation. Yeah, I 1584 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,719 Speaker 3: think the biggest up for us is is Jed Wills 1585 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 3: and Jack Conklin working against Sam Hubbard and Trey Hendrickson. 1586 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 3: I think that will be the biggest kind of test 1587 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,679 Speaker 3: for us, you know, on the on the offensive line, 1588 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 3: and in terms of what we really want to be 1589 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 3: able to do. 1590 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 2: Those two don't get home as much as as you 1591 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 2: might think, but they are around the quarterback a lot. 1592 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 2: They're pretty decent on pressure. Yeah, they had last year. 1593 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard had fifty four pressures, Trey Hendrickson at sixty two. 1594 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 3: For comparison's sake, last year, Miles sixteen sacks seventy three pressures. 1595 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 3: Zadarius ten sacks. He had eighty pressures last year. 1596 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 2: So significantly higher. Beteur, it is a Mailbank Thursday. Tweet 1597 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 2: ish your questions. Brown's Underscore Daily. We're gonna answer room 1598 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 2: coming up next you listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought 1599 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,360 Speaker 2: you by bally Bet sports betting partner Your Cleveland Browns 1600 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 2: now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 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I'm excited for that. 1612 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: I like this game. 1613 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. 1614 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 7: I like that. 1615 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 2: It's not the Bills. I like that it's not some 1616 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 2: team that I see all the time. Agree. I like 1617 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 2: that it's not Philly, that it's not Dallas. I like 1618 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 2: that it's Detroit. That they're getting this moment. It's a 1619 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,720 Speaker 2: lot of belief in them, a ton of belief in that. 1620 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 2: You want the juice. And this is predicated mostly off 1621 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: the fact that they beat Green Bay in a meaningless 1622 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 2: game for them, that meant everything to Green Bay. That's 1623 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 2: where a lot of this offseason juice. I don't love 1624 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 2: their drafts so forth, but I'm excited to see them 1625 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,719 Speaker 2: play because it's this is a team that I usually 1626 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 2: only you only get to see on Thanksgiving because you. 1627 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 4: Have to a couple little news and notes from around 1628 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 4: the sports world. 1629 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 2: Real Kids. 1630 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 4: Bill ra Benedittz from The Dispatch down a Columbus Ryan Day, 1631 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 4: saying that he was informed, presumably by the Big Ten, 1632 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 4: the penalty on Marvin Harrison Junior for stepping out of 1633 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 4: bounds and not getting immediately back on the field should 1634 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 4: have not been called, should have been a touchdown, would 1635 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,799 Speaker 4: have given McCord a twenty four yard touchdown. 1636 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 2: They scored on the drive anyway, But what that does 1637 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 2: is that changes the perception of the way people viewed 1638 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 2: Kyle McCord in the debut exactly. So instead he'd have 1639 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 2: that was like a forty yard touchdown to Marvin Harrison Junior, 1640 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 2: and so that would have made that all look better. 1641 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 2: By the way, I thought McCord was more than fine. 1642 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,759 Speaker 2: I thought their bigger problems were up front. 1643 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he was fine. 1644 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 2: It's not like it's not like he was erratic or 1645 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 2: wasn't accurate, Like, yeah, he was pretty accurate. He didn't 1646 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,879 Speaker 2: take many shots down the field, but he was pretty accurate, 1647 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 2: unlike what I could say about the Clemson offense from 1648 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 2: this past weekend. 1649 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,120 Speaker 3: No, baby, he was getting ready to come in. 1650 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:01,840 Speaker 2: I know he was. 1651 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 4: He's right, I don't maybe I should have let him 1652 01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 4: watching then. 1653 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 2: I think not a good debut for Scarlett. 1654 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 4: I think I just saved him. 1655 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 2: I think I think Justin Fields broke the Clemson program. 1656 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 2: That's what I think he's I think it's over. I 1657 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 2: think the ship has sailed on your boy, Dabo. Five 1658 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,920 Speaker 2: star quarterbacks coming over Wanton High fives. Nope, no high 1659 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,599 Speaker 2: five for you, Dabo. No long season and death Valley 1660 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 2: Kids long season. Luckily they still have all that Southern 1661 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 2: Tide money they can throw around. Yeah, or did he 1662 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 2: go to South Carolina? 1663 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 4: He went to South Carolina. 1664 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,200 Speaker 2: Well, they don't even have that going for him. 1665 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 4: No, it's not great, not a good week. Sorry, sorry, 1666 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 4: I just saved you. You're welcome. 1667 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 3: That's a great shot. 1668 01:15:53,600 --> 01:16:00,559 Speaker 4: From Kevin Seaffert ESPN. Justin Jefferson speaking today of the media, 1669 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 4: all right about his contract talks. He says he hopes 1670 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,200 Speaker 4: to get a deal done, isn't sure if it's going 1671 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,760 Speaker 4: to happen. He'll leave it up to his agent and 1672 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,200 Speaker 4: the team on whether talks would extend into the season. 1673 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 4: Hopes to continue playing with Kirk Cousins, but can't control it. 1674 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 2: So that's a he's weird, is he on? Is he 1675 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 2: on a franchise or is this the final year of 1676 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 2: his This is the final year season. He's a year 1677 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 2: ahead of Chase. He's the same age as Burrough, so 1678 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 2: this is four his fourth season, so he's got this 1679 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 2: one more. Yeah. So the reasons Higgins has done quicker 1680 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 2: is because he's a second round pick. So his is 1681 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,120 Speaker 2: he They'll both they'll all be up next year. Who 1682 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 2: has the current market for receivers? Is it Hopkins? Still? 1683 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 7: No? 1684 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 3: The top sellard? 1685 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 2: And somebody did somebody jump Hopkins. Hopkins' was like thirty 1686 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 2: some million when he did it, he lapped the field. 1687 01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if somebody passed that, but I'm. 1688 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 3: Say I don't think so. 1689 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,479 Speaker 4: Josina Anderson is saying that that's what Jefferson's camp wants. 1690 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, kidding the thirty million dollar wide receiver as it, Well, 1691 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 2: you should be Tyreek Hill. He's at thirty yep, fifty two, 1692 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:19,760 Speaker 2: fully guaranteed. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean he's 1693 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 2: he's worth that. Yeah, Davante's close. He's at like twenty eight. 1694 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 4: Probably the number one offensive weapon outside of quarterback. Yeah, 1695 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 4: International Football League. 1696 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 2: Hopkins maybe was hopkins deal like his was the most 1697 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 2: guaranteed at the moment. There was a time when he 1698 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 2: had a. 1699 01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 3: Monster huge Yeah, Tyreek's at thirty, Davante was at twenty eight. 1700 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,760 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup twenty six point seven, AJ Brown twenty five. 1701 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 2: I think the lesson we learn here is my internet's 1702 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 2: faster than yours much. 1703 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 4: Maybe it's your computer. 1704 01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 5: Maybe I love this. 1705 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 3: I mean there are a lot of people on the 1706 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 3: twenty three that like Deebo Samuel. That would be the 1707 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 3: seventh one that he referenced earlier twenty three point eight 1708 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 3: digs twenty four A J. Brown to how about Gina 1709 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 3: Smith get himself three or seventy five? Good for him? Yes, 1710 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,559 Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehills, Ryan Daniel was making is making thirty million 1711 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,879 Speaker 3: a year at one hundred and thirteen million dollar contract. 1712 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:20,679 Speaker 5: That is wild? 1713 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 4: All right, well it is a mail bag your question 1714 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 4: to us Brown's under. 1715 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 2: Though on those numbers, like even the Bosa numbers, like 1716 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 2: that's less money than Fred lan Vliet got. 1717 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,599 Speaker 3: Yes, okayy Miles got like eighteen minutes. 1718 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 2: Nonsense, NBA, you compare like twelve guys Bosa. Yeah right, 1719 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 2: it's twelve guys yet any he's just crazy? Oh yeah. 1720 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,679 Speaker 4: Isaac Moore tweets at the show. Is there a team 1721 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,560 Speaker 4: in the NFL you feel it was being disrespected this 1722 01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,760 Speaker 4: season other than the Browns. I think Raiders will be 1723 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 4: much better than they are projected. Isaac, I died on 1724 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 4: this hill last year with McDaniels. I would advise you 1725 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,120 Speaker 4: to not put the Raiders on that pedestal care full. 1726 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 3: I don't know that we're talking about the Saints enough. 1727 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:23,000 Speaker 2: Really, I'll tell you one, like you don't like that one, 1728 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 2: you don't like Saints. I s the division's so bad. 1729 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's talking more about Atlanta. 1730 01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's I don't I don't know what that is. 1731 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 2: I think that's a lot of Arthur Smith. They like 1732 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 2: his operation, like they're ignoring. Maybe Heineke goes in quicker 1733 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 2: and they can just run the operation he ran in Tennessee. 1734 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 2: They've got obviously have a lot of weapons. Yeah, New 1735 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 2: Orleans is one in terms of like, like, I think 1736 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 2: green Bay is going to be better than people think. 1737 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a chance they win the 1738 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,679 Speaker 2: North or they be a playoff team in the NFC. 1739 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,559 Speaker 2: Like I think the notion that green Bay falls off 1740 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 2: a cliff, I don't. I just don't buy that. So 1741 01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 2: they would be one. 1742 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:00,639 Speaker 8: I don't know anybody. 1743 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:01,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they fall off a cliff. 1744 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 5: But I'm not. 1745 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 7: What is this? 1746 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 3: What's agat? 1747 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 2: What's he getting ready for gott to suit it up 1748 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,640 Speaker 2: a little bit? It looks like who knows Movers and 1749 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 2: Shake In terms of is there a contender that we're 1750 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 2: not talking about enough. Is Dallas better than people think 1751 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 2: they might be? 1752 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 3: Is Miami getting Chargers? I think the Chargers are being 1753 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 3: talked about enough. 1754 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 2: It's just nobody believes in that coach. 1755 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 3: I agree. 1756 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 2: I mean, dude, they blew it. You were and Jacksonville, 1757 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 2: you're up the way they were up and you blow that. 1758 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 2: That's insane, that's impossible. 1759 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're wasting I'm amazing survive. But they 1760 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:34,439 Speaker 3: brought in Kellen Moore. 1761 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 2: But the reason that he survived because they're not going 1762 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 2: to pay him, not somebody not to coach then correct? 1763 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 8: You know? 1764 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a lot of team like I don't. 1765 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 2: We're talking about this off air, and maybe maybe we 1766 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 2: end up eating our words on this. I just I 1767 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 2: don't see it with Baltimore and I don't see it 1768 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:47,919 Speaker 2: with Pittsburgh. 1769 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 4: McClean just picked the Ravens to win the Super Bowl. 1770 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:50,680 Speaker 5: I don't. 1771 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm like what I like a lot, Like he was 1772 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,479 Speaker 2: great at Georgia. We liked him a lot here, But 1773 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 2: who's he throwing to. Defensively, they are not what they 1774 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 2: used to be. They don't have the pass rushers, they 1775 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 2: don't have the secondary like they used to. They're really 1776 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:07,120 Speaker 2: good at linebacker. I don't know, I don't I'm not 1777 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 2: crazy about them NFC. It's just when you like, if tomorrow, 1778 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 2: if we do like picks or whatever, we're gonna when 1779 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,600 Speaker 2: you guys go through like the NFC, anybody can make 1780 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 2: it less after the first, after Philly, San Francisco and Dallas. 1781 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,519 Speaker 3: It's wide open. I mean there are teams you like, 1782 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:24,840 Speaker 3: I think Seattle's gonna be sick again. 1783 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,559 Speaker 2: But right, but like they're not a super Bowl team, 1784 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 2: Like it feels like one of those three will be 1785 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 2: in the super Bowl in the NFC. 1786 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 3: I guarantee. I'm not even to look give a his 1787 01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 3: practiced just recently, like, are about to wrap up because 1788 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,760 Speaker 3: this is my internet is gone? Yeah, that's usually then 1789 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,760 Speaker 3: you get the dump, yeh, get a little video dump. 1790 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 2: The Hopkins number I was thinking of. He was he 1791 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,080 Speaker 2: got a two year fifty four million with Arizona. The 1792 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,080 Speaker 2: signing the first year was twenty seven and a half. 1793 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 2: So that was the one in my head of when 1794 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 2: he kind of reset the market. 1795 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 3: You had it, it was a big one. 1796 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,200 Speaker 4: Uh, each night or tweets up the show. Does anything 1797 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,599 Speaker 4: keep you up at night with this team. I don't 1798 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,720 Speaker 4: want to see any secondary breakdowns like we had in 1799 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 4: our first two games last year. 1800 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,760 Speaker 3: Go Browns. I don't want to see that either. That 1801 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 3: would be ridiculous. 1802 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 4: I'm still seeing that. 1803 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 2: If you know, I'm just what. I'm not keep me 1804 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 2: up at night. Nothing keeps me up at night. I 1805 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 2: know how good the roster is. I am so fatigued 1806 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 2: about having to explain that the talent is what the 1807 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,479 Speaker 2: talent is. Correct, I'm fatigued. You probably noticed it over 1808 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 2: the last month. Like sometimes I just get annoyed by it. 1809 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 2: And some of it is obviously past history, but there 1810 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 2: also has to be an acknowledgment that this is a 1811 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,240 Speaker 2: different era the last four or five years. The talent 1812 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,560 Speaker 2: is exponentially better. There wasn't. Joe Thomas played it the 1813 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,280 Speaker 2: hot plaited his entire career. Here, there's not anybody else 1814 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 2: who's even the vicinity of people who played the majority 1815 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,719 Speaker 2: of their career. In the conversation for a gold jacket, 1816 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,120 Speaker 2: we got like five guys, So if they, if their 1817 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,559 Speaker 2: career keeps going, have potential to be gold jackets. Yes, 1818 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 2: Like it's different, totally different, totally different. 1819 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing that I would say is you know, 1820 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,160 Speaker 3: we don't really know about the backup running backs, you know, 1821 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 3: but again their backup runs, but he does. We don't 1822 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 3: know about our linebacking room coming back from the injuries. Uh, 1823 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 3: and that would that's that's pretty much it. Yeah, that's 1824 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,360 Speaker 3: pretty much it. I mean, I'm certainly not kept up 1825 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 3: at night wondering if Deshaun Watson is going to be 1826 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 3: good this year. I think he will be good. 1827 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 4: Love a dog. Today, seems like the new defense may 1828 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,960 Speaker 4: be susceptible to a screen over the blitz from time 1829 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,519 Speaker 4: to time. Is there any way around that or is 1830 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,080 Speaker 4: that just the cost of doing business? 1831 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 3: He saw that the Chiefs. 1832 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 4: That's what that screen. But that was the first time 1833 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,960 Speaker 4: all preseason. I think that we hadn't played the screen. 1834 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,120 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you got to be linebackers have to have 1835 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 3: their eyes in the right place and go to the 1836 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,559 Speaker 3: right spot. If they go the wrong way, a screen's 1837 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 3: gonna be very successful in the NFL. But no, I 1838 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,120 Speaker 3: don't think that's a product of our defense. I think 1839 01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 3: that we're going to be just fine from that standpoint. 1840 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 3: I think that a well time screen and a well 1841 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,840 Speaker 3: called screen against the right blitz is going to be successful. 1842 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 3: It's just just it's part of the chess game. It's 1843 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 3: chess like you're trying to call the right play for 1844 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 3: what they're doing is a defense. So yeah, there are 1845 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,240 Speaker 3: going to be You can't. Perfect offense will beat perfect 1846 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,559 Speaker 3: defense every single time unless you blow the play up. 1847 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 5: In the backfield. 1848 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 4: Samuel Barefoot tweets at the show what should we be 1849 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 4: expecting out of Nadjoku this season? I'm pretty high on him? 1850 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 4: But is it just hyper? Is there substance? There's plenty of. 1851 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,839 Speaker 3: Plenty of substance. I mean, lord, he's giving you substance. 1852 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 3: He was banged up last year and didn't have a 1853 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 3: full season with Watson had a career high fifty eight 1854 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,240 Speaker 3: catches six hundred and twenty eight yards, which were eleven 1855 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 3: off of his career high four touchdowns tied his career. 1856 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 3: I think he beats all of those numbers this year 1857 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,480 Speaker 3: he stays healthy. 1858 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,599 Speaker 2: Eight hundred, I think he could have between sixty five 1859 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,680 Speaker 2: seven fifty to eight hundred and six to ten touchdowns. 1860 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,519 Speaker 2: I mean, DeShawn loves him in the red zone. 1861 01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:56,880 Speaker 3: There's long love. 1862 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:00,639 Speaker 4: Bobby time. 1863 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 2: Bobby, Hey, Hey, Babby. 1864 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,000 Speaker 4: What's the best and worst fantasy football team? 1865 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 8: Name? 1866 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:08,639 Speaker 4: You've seen or had. 1867 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:09,960 Speaker 2: I can't say the worst. 1868 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:15,240 Speaker 3: I can't say the worst or the best. Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry? 1869 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 2: What do you go to? Do you have a go to? 1870 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:19,599 Speaker 2: Or change? 1871 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 3: Change it every year? 1872 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,160 Speaker 2: Some of my teams are like the same because I'll 1873 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 2: have teams with like the part like the Assuming Snakes. 1874 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 3: That's a that's a dynasty franchise. That'll always be that. 1875 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,120 Speaker 3: Ye me and ass we have our team name. We 1876 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 3: always tweak it each year for one person that's on 1877 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 3: our team. 1878 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 2: I've been Shaboom Sha booms for fifteen years for the 1879 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:38,760 Speaker 2: bar that Kenny Powers goes to. 1880 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,919 Speaker 3: Is it a storied franchise? 1881 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,280 Speaker 2: We're the I'm trying to think what we are Probably 1882 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 2: like the Seahawks. Seattle Seahawks in the mix won a 1883 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,720 Speaker 2: couple of titles over the fifteen years, but always in 1884 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 2: the mix, usually a playoff team. Okay, so it's been 1885 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:56,880 Speaker 2: a minute though, it's been a minute since we've hung 1886 01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 2: a banner. I think only miss the playoffs one in 1887 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,240 Speaker 2: the since thiss been the same leak since oh one. 1888 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 4: Let's see what else from Bobby? If you can make 1889 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 4: the ultimate sandwich, what would be on it? Are you 1890 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 4: guys sandwich guys. 1891 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:14,080 Speaker 2: I like a sandwich. 1892 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,360 Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of a sandwich. I think the best 1893 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,559 Speaker 3: sandwich out there is a perfectly executed French dip, perfect 1894 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:21,040 Speaker 3: bag at. 1895 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 2: There's a wide range on the on the French dip. 1896 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotta be perfect for perfect French dip is perfect. Yeah, 1897 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 3: the ajud At dunkin In. 1898 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 2: I like I like a sub from time to time. 1899 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,680 Speaker 2: Every once in a while and I'm on the road 1900 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:36,400 Speaker 2: gets hurt. 1901 01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 3: And I'm road trip and I like subway. I think 1902 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 3: it's a great round trip. 1903 01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 2: I'm a big I'm a big Jersey mic guy. 1904 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:42,439 Speaker 5: I like it. 1905 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 2: I like that as the sub goes. Yeah, there's a 1906 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,799 Speaker 2: lot of good. There was one I used to always 1907 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,639 Speaker 2: get it, uh in college at Jimmy John's. I can't 1908 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:56,439 Speaker 2: It had avocado and sprouts on it with turkey. It 1909 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,120 Speaker 2: was really good. Health beach Comber or something like that. Yeah, 1910 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 2: it's been a minute, but yeah. 1911 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,639 Speaker 4: We already knew that you're the best in the world 1912 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 4: in broadcasting, Thanks Bobby. But if you could be the 1913 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 4: best in the world, it's something else. What would it be. 1914 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 2: Running a hedge fund? I think I gotta tell you 1915 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,800 Speaker 2: perfectly executed bot is pretty perfect. I know you're not 1916 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 2: a male guy, no mao out, but that done right. 1917 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,640 Speaker 3: Usually running a hedge fund is what you say. You 1918 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,240 Speaker 3: don't even have to be that. I mean, if as 1919 01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:28,880 Speaker 3: long as you have you're in the right spot, you 1920 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,200 Speaker 3: can fin like that'd be pretty good. 1921 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,320 Speaker 2: I've I have. I would like to be. 1922 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,280 Speaker 3: I think if I was the best golfer in the world, 1923 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 3: that would be pretty sweet, pretty lucrative and pretty fun. 1924 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 2: Be a good life. 1925 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,479 Speaker 3: I think it'd be very good life, very good life. Yeah. Yeah, 1926 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 3: i'd also I mean, if I was the rock, that would. 1927 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,800 Speaker 2: I think you'd rather be. I would rather be the 1928 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 2: best golfer than be the rock. 1929 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,320 Speaker 3: That'd be the best pro wrestler ever. Yeah, yeah, I 1930 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:51,560 Speaker 3: think so. 1931 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,080 Speaker 4: There's a Scott so much stuff going on. 1932 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 3: I think if I was right, if I was the 1933 01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 3: best pro golfer ever, that would be an awf some life. Yeah, 1934 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:02,680 Speaker 3: it would be something I could do for you. 1935 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:03,599 Speaker 2: Love doing it? I want? 1936 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 1937 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:05,679 Speaker 2: Love it? So that wins. 1938 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's it for today's Twitter mail bag. 1939 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,040 Speaker 2: There you go? Is it the ex mail bag? Now 1940 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,000 Speaker 2: it's the X mail bag? I guess here's another one. 1941 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,120 Speaker 3: What if you're like just the best stock trader ever. 1942 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 2: I guess that's kind of what I'm going for with 1943 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 2: every thing, because they don't even have to have a job. Yeah, 1944 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 2: that's true. 1945 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,559 Speaker 3: Just like every stock you pick is it's a win 1946 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,960 Speaker 3: wins see the future. 1947 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be pretty good, all right. It is our 1948 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 2: first score of the season. It's a Thursday. You must 1949 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 2: pay attention to the scores you listen to. 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