WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Devil's Rain

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And today on Weird

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<v Speaker 1>House Cinema, we are going to be talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five satanic cult melt movie The Devil's Rain,

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<v Speaker 1>a movie that I first saw, oh, I'd say, somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>between thirteen and fifteen years ago, and I didn't remember

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<v Speaker 1>much about it except there is a famous melting sequence

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of this movie, and my memory was

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<v Speaker 1>that it goes on and on and on and on,

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<v Speaker 1>and wow, was that impression ever validated by rewatching this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like the godfather of melt movies. It is

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<v Speaker 1>quite a melt movie. If you are into film homes

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<v Speaker 1>that depict the generally unrealistic liquefacation of the flesh. The

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<v Speaker 1>most I guess famous mainstream example of this being either

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<v Speaker 1>The Wicked Witch of the West melting or All the

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis melting at the end of Raiders of the Lost Art,

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<v Speaker 1>both fine examples in their own right, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely get deeper into the weeds. I do greatly enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the Nazi melting in Raiders. But one difference I want

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<v Speaker 1>to point out is that in Raiders, it seems that

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<v Speaker 1>when like the SS agent melts and it melts like

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<v Speaker 1>a candle, they attempted to do that in some biologically

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<v Speaker 1>accurate color schemes, so he basically melts in like blood

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<v Speaker 1>and viscera kind of colors. The melting in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is the full box of crayons. It's just whatever color

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<v Speaker 1>you want where you know, we're green, blue, purple, pink.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's in there in this movie. And we may we'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably discuss this a bit more. We made to some

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<v Speaker 1>degree try to make sense of it, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think any real sense can be made of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie, if you are a devout Satan worshiper,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to exchange your fleshly body for a body

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<v Speaker 1>that is made of multi colored wax. Yeah, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>not only does solid wax veltle liquid wax, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you were shot with a gun, you will bleed multicolored wax.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were melted by rain of either divine or

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<v Speaker 1>infernal origin, I'm not sure which direction it actually is

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<v Speaker 1>going in. At any rate, it will melt you like

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<v Speaker 1>multi colored candles, and it's so yeah, they're not even

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make it seem like this is an actual

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<v Speaker 1>organic process. This is something psychedelic and weird and just

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<v Speaker 1>straight up nineteen seventies. You know, most movies that depict

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<v Speaker 1>people making a covenant with Satan depict more enticements. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you make a deal with the devil, you

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<v Speaker 1>get fame, power, pleasure, riches, all that stuff. In this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>the cultists don't really seem to get much of anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of power and riches and pleasure. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like, well, you get to become made of wax.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't that sound great? Well, I think Corbus are our

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<v Speaker 1>cult leader. He he does in the flashback to three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years ago. He's telling the other cultists in this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, very pilgrimy setting. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotten to taste the pleasures of the flash you

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<v Speaker 1>got you got your earthly pleasures out of this, and

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<v Speaker 1>now I will take you to the hell. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the arrangement. So it's implied they got to have some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of earthly pleasures, but I don't know they were.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a pretty stuffy looking lot, so it might have

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<v Speaker 1>been rather mundane by you know, three hundred years ago status.

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<v Speaker 1>These were not pleasures of the flash by nineteen seventy standards. No,

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<v Speaker 1>what what were the pleasures and power that enjoyed by

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<v Speaker 1>like Pilgrim William Shatner that that really earned him the

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<v Speaker 1>wax Hell of the future got to wear shorts or

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<v Speaker 1>something probably. Also, I wanted to point out, so this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is notable for being a seventies cheeseball satanic cult movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but also for the melting sequences, but also for having

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<v Speaker 1>a rather interesting cast. So we'll get into that in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. But one of the cast members is Tom Skarrett.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sort of one of the heroes of the film.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to point out the Amazon Prime landing

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<v Speaker 1>page for the streaming version of this movie is a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of Tom Skarrett sort of gazing off into the

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<v Speaker 1>distance where he looks so much like a perfect cross

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<v Speaker 1>between Leonard Nimoy and Josh Brolin. Do you see it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a weird it's a weird image to try and

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<v Speaker 1>sell this movie on. It's kind of like anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody who wanted to see this because of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>satanism or the melting they've seen it. Now we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to sell people on like mid seventies Tom Scarett handsomeness. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Scarrett is handsome, Michelle, I'll give him that. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I don't know if that's going to get people

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. But okay, so maybe the image doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>you in, you'll hook him with the plot description. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's you're in. The plot description of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is a man tries to save his family from

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<v Speaker 1>a Satanic cult ruled by a powerful preacher. Somebody didn't

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<v Speaker 1>copy at it that and it makes me wonder, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the descriptor that started with a vowel before they

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<v Speaker 1>changed it out too powerful? Was it originally ruled by

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<v Speaker 1>an evil preacher? And then they're like, now that's two

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<v Speaker 1>on the nose, let's change evil to powerful. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't change the article. Maybe it was all powerful ah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're like, well that doesn't hold up. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite all powerful, that's right, but reasonably powerful, intimidatingly powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems to me like The Devil's Reign did

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<v Speaker 1>not get very good reviews when it came out. It

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<v Speaker 1>has since garnered some kind of retrospective appreciation, though a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reviewers have said it's kind of boring or dull.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say this is a good movie,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not. But I did not find it boring.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was highly entertained. Yeah, I found that

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<v Speaker 1>it really sucked me in. It has. It's never dull

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen. I mean, there's always some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting desert setting or strange satanic chapel, or somebody's making

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<v Speaker 1>a strange facial expression or has been reduced to an

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<v Speaker 1>eyeless cult member, or of course for large stretches of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie are actively melting. There's there's a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your attention. Yeah, it's it's you look back at

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<v Speaker 1>the reviews, and you know, nobody seemed to like it

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<v Speaker 1>when it came out. It arguably had a very devastating

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<v Speaker 1>effect on the career of the of the director, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into that. Um, but yeah, it's It's also

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<v Speaker 1>unlike just about anything else, so it definitely got stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in people's heads. It developed a cult following for my money,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of this may have been from sort of

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<v Speaker 1>I think I may have caught parts of it for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time on the Sci Fi Channel back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. But this film feels like an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Night Gallery that was stretched out to feature length and

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<v Speaker 1>then also had its plot surgically removed. It. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>really has the feel of an anthology TV series, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like an episode of one of those shows

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have consistent characters. It's like a self contained

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<v Speaker 1>plot every time. And I wonder if that might have

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the fact that it feels in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways like the plot is really rushed, like it throws

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<v Speaker 1>you right into the middle of the story without any

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<v Speaker 1>explanation or introduction. So for the first I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten fifteen minutes, you're really like, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>It's really confusing, But then other parts of it feel

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<v Speaker 1>totally padded out. There's so much just driving and looking

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<v Speaker 1>around at things. The sense of confusion, though, is sustained

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the entire picture, given that most of the picture

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<v Speaker 1>you spend time. If you're giving it even a halfway

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated viewing like we did here, you're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself continually asking questions that cannot be answered. And

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<v Speaker 1>on one level, I feel like that's kind of accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>fitting for a film about normal human mortals and encountering

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<v Speaker 1>some strange cult from beyond the pale. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>never you're never supposed to completely make sense of what

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<v Speaker 1>evil wizards are up to. And and the movie itself

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<v Speaker 1>has this strange dream like quality like it makes it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It has dream logic. So when you try and ask

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<v Speaker 1>like why are people made out of wax? And why

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<v Speaker 1>or what's this about the Devil's Reign? And is this

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<v Speaker 1>the Devil's Reign? Or is that the Devil's Rain, Like

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<v Speaker 1>none of it really makes logical sense, and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to even attempt to stitch it together into such

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<v Speaker 1>a sensible construction. But it has that kind of dream

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<v Speaker 1>logic where if you were to explain this as a dream,

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<v Speaker 1>people wouldn't doubt that you had this experience with you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your rain in pure dream mode. That being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like that that is an intentional result

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<v Speaker 1>of the filmmaking here. I think I think we we

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<v Speaker 1>wound up here maybe due to some um some errors

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<v Speaker 1>and adequacies some what have you. I totally agree it

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<v Speaker 1>has that feeling of each scene you're in there are

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly kind of mechanisms in play that you're like, what

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<v Speaker 1>what what what's this about an amulet? Now, where did

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<v Speaker 1>that come from? And why are they calling it the

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's Rain? And I don't know, but it just plows

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<v Speaker 1>forward relentlessly. So yeah, it has that that dreamlike quality. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>should we do an elevator pitch? Go for it if

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<v Speaker 1>you can summon one? Okay, okay? For generations, the Preston

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<v Speaker 1>family has been pursued by an ancient evil in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of Ernest Borg nine. Finally, the satanic Borg has

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<v Speaker 1>captured several family members in his grip. Will Borg ninety

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<v Speaker 1>and wickedness prevail? Or will the Preston's be able to

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<v Speaker 1>liquefy the hooded minions of Beelzebub? Sounds pretty good? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and listen to the trailer, Audios. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good trailer. There have been films about earthquakes,

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<v Speaker 1>airplane disasters, and blazing infernos, but there has never been

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<v Speaker 1>anything like The Devil's Reign. Yes, that wasn't your father?

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<v Speaker 1>Was his face? Mother? Mark Commas? Damn? They had no

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<v Speaker 1>faces the Devil's Reign. The three hundred year search for

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<v Speaker 1>the power to damn mankind is over, and the towering

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<v Speaker 1>terror of the Devil on Earth is now unleashed. Burn Burn,

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<v Speaker 1>Burn Burn. The Devil's Reign. Hundreds of souls held captives

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<v Speaker 1>in an eternity of hell si possessed by the Devil. You,

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<v Speaker 1>my son, have defiled all that is holy. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. They become his worshippers and his two

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<v Speaker 1>months all right, before we go into the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode, if you want to watch The Devil's Rain

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<v Speaker 1>before you listen to us discuss it more, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>can find it a number of places. Several films put

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<v Speaker 1>out a great restored blu ray of the movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find that wherever you get your films, as loads

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<v Speaker 1>of extras on it. This movie is also widely available

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<v Speaker 1>streaming in nice quality, nice quality, but with questionable metadata. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's get into the people who brought this

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<v Speaker 1>film to us, starting at the top here with the

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<v Speaker 1>director Robert Fuest, who lived nineteen twenty seven through twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>British director noted for his stylish seventies approach to genre cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy he had two films out, an adaptation

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<v Speaker 1>of Worthering Heights with Timothy Dalton in it, and a

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<v Speaker 1>thriller called and Soon the Darkness. We previously discussed him

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<v Speaker 1>as director of nineteen seventy ones The Abominable Doctor Fibes,

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<v Speaker 1>which was just a delightful horror film with style for Miles.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not realize this was the same director as

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Fibes. But that's interesting because Doctor five again. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I greatly enjoyed the campiness of the Devil's Reign, but

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Fibes is leagues ahead in terms of like creativity

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<v Speaker 1>and confidence and all that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But he

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<v Speaker 1>followed that up with seventy two sequel, Doctor Fibes Rises

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<v Speaker 1>again in nineteen seventy three is The Final Program, which

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<v Speaker 1>was based on a Michael moorecock novel and the star

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<v Speaker 1>John Finch. And then came this film, which critics universally panned,

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<v Speaker 1>and it may be the reason he mostly did TV

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<v Speaker 1>after The Devil's Reign, But you know, sometimes it goes

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<v Speaker 1>that way, all right. The writers on this a mysterious lot,

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<v Speaker 1>as if shrouded in cultest hooding. Here we have Gabe

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<v Speaker 1>Eso writer dates unknown, though I believe he's still alive

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<v Speaker 1>based on just some some poking around. Screenwriter with limited

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<v Speaker 1>credits mostly TV, and the most notable credits being for

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<v Speaker 1>an episode of Star Trek Deep Space nine and three

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of Policewoman. On Memory Alpha, the Star Trek wiki

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<v Speaker 1>and general database. It mentions that he's also a film historian,

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<v Speaker 1>and indeed I looked it up. He wrote nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight Tarzan of the Movies, a pictorial history of more

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<v Speaker 1>than fifty years of Edgar Rice Burrough's legendary hero, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as some old Hollywood biographies. The other writers are

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<v Speaker 1>James Ashton, dates unknown. This is their only credit, and

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald Hoptman also dates unknown. This is also their only

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<v Speaker 1>credit for writing, but it was also an associate producer

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<v Speaker 1>on this film and associate producer on nineteen eighty one's

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<v Speaker 1>Evil Speak. Okay, but it's time to talk about the cast,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is one of the real reasons people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to tune into this movie, apart from the melting

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<v Speaker 1>that's right and Riya. Starring in this bad Boy is

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest borg Nine playing Jonathan Corbus. Borg Nine lived nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen through twenty twelve. Academy Award winning actor known for

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<v Speaker 1>such films as nineteen fifty five's Marty, nineteen eighty ones

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<v Speaker 1>Escape from New York in nineteen seventy two is the

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<v Speaker 1>Poseidon Adventure. You might also remember him from nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nines The Black Hole or nineteen sixty nins The Wild Bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean really, he's one of those actors who pops

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<v Speaker 1>up in every genre, every level of budget. And interestingly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed that this movie was financed by the mob

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<v Speaker 1>and that he was never actually paid WHOA. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was curious, like this was something he made at a

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<v Speaker 1>like a panel late in life, So I did look

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<v Speaker 1>it up and well in interestingly enough, The Devil's Reign

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<v Speaker 1>was a Bryanston distributing Company film. This is a company

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<v Speaker 1>that existed from seventy two through seventy six, which I

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<v Speaker 1>believe was allegedly connected to the Colombo crime family. Other

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<v Speaker 1>films include seventy four's Dark Star and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Dark Star, So that's John Carpenter Texas Chainsaw

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<v Speaker 1>Massacer is who So this is like horror Royalty stems

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<v Speaker 1>from at least alleged mob financing. I didn't really know

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<v Speaker 1>laundering at all. Yeah, maybe somebody who's more informed on

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<v Speaker 1>the history of organized crime in Cinema can write in

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<v Speaker 1>with details or a link or something about this, but

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<v Speaker 1>at any rate, there's no denying borg nine though. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>great great career. Later in life he did a number

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<v Speaker 1>of voiceover roles as well. He had that with that wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>memorable Simpsons guest role where he played a fictionalized version

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<v Speaker 1>of himself. This was the Friday the Thirteenth parody. As

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<v Speaker 1>I recall m Okay, one of the things about Bourg

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<v Speaker 1>nine is I think a lot of us that came

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<v Speaker 1>along either later in his career or more familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>those later day pictures. We often think of him for

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<v Speaker 1>his post Marty roles as likable every man, or his

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<v Speaker 1>role as the lead character on the sixties television show

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<v Speaker 1>like McHale's Navy. We think of him as like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a friendly, weird grandpa. As his villainous turn in

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<v Speaker 1>this film may feel like an outlier, but you start

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<v Speaker 1>looking around in his older films, especially his pre Marty stuff,

0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he did play a lot of heavies. So key examples

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<v Speaker 1>of this are fifty threes from Here to Eternity, where

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<v Speaker 1>he gets in like a knife fight with Frank Sinatra,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's nineteen fifty five Bad Day at Black Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this is a guy who played a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of heavies back in the day. I don't remember exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what his character does in The Wild Bunch, but basically

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the Wild Bunch is bad. But yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's going to accuse The Devil's Reign of being a

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<v Speaker 1>serious acting showcase. But I think sometimes it takes the

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<v Speaker 1>context of a fairly bad movie to make you realize

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<v Speaker 1>the raw charisma of a standout number of the cast.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, that's exactly what's going on with Ernest Borgnine. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Borg Nine carries this movie on his shoulders. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it probably doesn't work at all without him. And even

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<v Speaker 1>though you know, I'm sure when he did it he

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<v Speaker 1>saw this film as ephemeral silliness. He does not phone

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<v Speaker 1>it in. He does not pull a Michael Rennie and

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<v Speaker 1>assignment terror and phone in a performance. He shows up,

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<v Speaker 1>and he brings several friends, and they're all his goat familiars.

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<v Speaker 1>Without Ernest borg Nine, I think The Devil's Reign wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be ten percent as entertaining as it is. Yeah, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>he's great in this. I'd read that filmmakers had at

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<v Speaker 1>one point some interest in Vincent Price playing this role. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that could have been fun too, But he could have

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<v Speaker 1>been fun and a Price is great and and would

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<v Speaker 1>have made this role his own. But borg nine is

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<v Speaker 1>just an entirely different energy, you know. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, there's something too about And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much of this is them leaning into it once

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<v Speaker 1>they knew borg nine was their guy. But like when

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<v Speaker 1>we encounter Corbus and like cowboy mode, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>mortal mode, before we really know that he's an evil

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<v Speaker 1>cult leader, you know, like that's there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>physicality there, there's a certain um uh like rugged almost

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<v Speaker 1>swagger that you're only going to get from somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>borg nine. I agree, Actually, I mean I always love

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent Price, but I think this would be a lesser

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<v Speaker 1>movie if it were Vincent Price, because it would be

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<v Speaker 1>more on the nose, and I think Price would have

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<v Speaker 1>played the role more conventionally evil. Borg Nine's cult leader

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<v Speaker 1>is very fun to watch because he is so he's

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<v Speaker 1>just beaming that huge grin and the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>twinkle in his eye, and most of the time he's

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<v Speaker 1>sounding very friendly until he edges over into absolute menace. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he does famously turn into a goat man a

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<v Speaker 1>bit in this film, and I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>interesting things about it is it's good looking effects. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to it's not. This is not a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where oh yeah, he turns into a goat, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks crappy. Now it looks really good, but it but

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<v Speaker 1>it limits his ability to portray this natural level of unhinged.

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<v Speaker 1>Cult leader of charisma, Ernest borgnine is biologically a cartoon character,

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<v Speaker 1>and counterintuitively, by putting him in in devilish he goat makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually tone down his visual charisma and his his weirdness.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he looks less exciting and less weird in the

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<v Speaker 1>goat makeup than he does with his just normal human face. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Great eyebrows in this picture too, just crazy eyebrows. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it to a certain extent. Our main hero is

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<v Speaker 1>this character Eddie Albert, who plays doctor Sam Richards. He's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of our I guess he represents fringe science, the

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<v Speaker 1>enemy of Satanism. I think it's interesting because this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>like at the very end, he sort of becomes the

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<v Speaker 1>hero who defeats the cult. But up until the very end,

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<v Speaker 1>I kept being like, Oh, yeah, this guy, what's his deal?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he does not read for ninety five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. As the hero. He reads as like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, he's a side guy who's hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Skarrett and then suddenly he's the guy who beats

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<v Speaker 1>the bad guys at the end. Yeah yeah, and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to really risk much personally himself. Yeah, Like he's

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<v Speaker 1>not the one whose family is at the center of this.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway. Eddie Albert though Live nineteen oh six or

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five Academy Award nominated actor, best known

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<v Speaker 1>for such films as fifty three's Roman, Holiday, sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>Is The Longest Day, seventy two is The Heartbreak Kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course TV's Green Acres, on which he starred.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is another case of a notable actor who

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<v Speaker 1>hit He'd only just been nominated for Best Actor in

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two, and he was in Disney's Escape to Which

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain the same year seventy five. So you keep asking

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with this movie, like, what are all these these

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<v Speaker 1>these actors doing out in the middle of the Mexican

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>desert filming? This sets satanant cult movie on perhaps mob money,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the money was good. I don't know, Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then another case of this we have Ida Lupino

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<v Speaker 1>in this playing Emma Preston, the matriarch of the Preston

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<v Speaker 1>family that is so cursed in this. She lived nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen through nineteen ninety five British American actress, director, writer,

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<v Speaker 1>and producer. She acted from the early thirties into the

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<v Speaker 1>late seventies, perhaps most notably in such pictures from the

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<v Speaker 1>forties as High Sierra, Ladies in Retirement, The Hard Way,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pillowed to Post. But she's also notable as a

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<v Speaker 1>director and writer. I've seen her described as the most

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<v Speaker 1>prominent female filmmaker of fifties so the fifties Hollywood system,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was the first woman, apparently to direct a

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<v Speaker 1>noir film, nineteen fifty three's The Hitch High. She directed

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<v Speaker 1>and starred in nineteen fifty ones on Dangerous Ground, and

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<v Speaker 1>other directorial credits include fifty Threes, The Bigmist, nineteen fifties Outage,

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<v Speaker 1>and she also directed a lot of TV, including two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of Alfred Hitchcock Presents, nine episodes of Thriller, and

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<v Speaker 1>one episode of the original Twilight Zone that episode being

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty four's The Masks. So I was very excited

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<v Speaker 1>about Lupino going into this, but unfortunately I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>say much about her acting performance because for ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie, she's just a rubber mask. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's the rubber mask, but that we will talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about what the cultists look like. But she's the mask

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<v Speaker 1>with the black eyes in a black hood, just going ah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, join us son. But I will say she

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<v Speaker 1>does a very good job of melting, and if I

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<v Speaker 1>remember correctly that she melts multiple times. Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also a Shatner movie because William Shatner himself

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<v Speaker 1>plays Mark Preston born nineteen thirty one. I mean what

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<v Speaker 1>you can just quickly you say. This is, of course

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Captain James T. Kirk from the sixties Track series and

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the various film adaptations of Track. This movie is from

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<v Speaker 1>the space between the TV show and his return to

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<v Speaker 1>the character on screen in seventy nine. His other notable

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<v Speaker 1>TV series include T. J. Hooker from eighty two to

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six. Of course we have Tech War, both the

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<v Speaker 1>novel series that has his name on and end the

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>TV adaptation with the music by warrens Yvon. He have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn about tech war sooner or later. Yeah, they do.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also in two very notable Twilight Zone episodes, Nick

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>of Time from nineteen sixty and of course, Nightmare at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand Feet from sixty three. Other pure genre film

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<v Speaker 1>credits for Shatner include The Horror at thirty seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Feet as the TV movie that I know you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked about before and you may have seen

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<v Speaker 1>in full. Is this the one where he has to

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<v Speaker 1>go battle an ancient druid curse in part of an airplane,

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<v Speaker 1>well just part of an airplane? Yes, yes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the one. Okay, there's also seventy four's Impulse nineteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 1>is Incubus in nineteen eighty two is Visiting Hours? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So William Shatner is one of the most goofed on

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<v Speaker 1>actors of all time. You know, everybody loves to do

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<v Speaker 1>gentle ribbing of his line delivery, you know, like making

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<v Speaker 1>fun of him, but they still like him. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways stick up for Shatner as a sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely good actor. I think, when paired with good written

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<v Speaker 1>material and the right director, he's genuinely very good. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you go back and watch like the Nicholas Meyers

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<v Speaker 1>star Trek movies, you know, Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home,

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<v Speaker 1>Undiscovered Country, I think in those Shatner is actually excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>But when people do the parody impressions of him affecting

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<v Speaker 1>strange dramatic pauses and choosing which word of a sentence

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>to emphasize almost at random, you know, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>the weird line reading and stuff. I think, stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>The Devil's Reign maybe exactly what they have in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's like that in this movie. Strange pauses and

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<v Speaker 1>sentences that don't make any dramatic sense, gazing off into

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<v Speaker 1>the distance, and moments that don't really earn that for

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<v Speaker 1>any reason, generally odd line readings. So I defend Shatner

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<v Speaker 1>not just as camp. I think he can sometimes be

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<v Speaker 1>really great, but this movie is much more of a

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>showcase of his camp side, and in my opinion, his

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>performance is very funny. Yeah. I'm not a huge Shatner fan,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would say I will say that I did

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 1>enjoy him in this. I don't know, I don't know

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>if it's something about him playing kind of a failed

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<v Speaker 1>hero and kind of a Satanic weasel. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>this outer strength and bluster to the character, but ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>there's this inner weakness in how in hollowness that ends

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>up kind of devouring him. So I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 1>felt maybe it just felt enough against type with this

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>character that I enjoyed him more. Hard to say. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this makes any sense, but you really

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>it just comes through that he's really enjoying his shirtless

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>torture scenes with the Satanic Cold. He does have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of shirtless torture scenes in this, but I feel

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like any fan of Star Trek should also watch The

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's Right. You've seen Shatner from both sides now, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you understand from up and down. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's mention some other folks here. Keenan Wynn plays Sheriff Owens.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a major character, but he pops up here and there.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>He's the sheriff. He's the authority figure that ultimately doesn't

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>pull through Live nineteen sixteen through nineteen eighty six American

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 1>actor with tons of credits across the forty fifty sixty, seventies,

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>and eighties. He voiced Captain Culley in nineteen eighty two

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Is the Last Unicorn, and he played Colonel bat Guano

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty four's Doctor Strange Love, among many other roles.

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to answer to the Coca Cola company.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see Tom Scarrett. We already mentioned he plays Tom Preston.

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>This is Foot Shatner's brother, right, Yes, I think so that.

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they made that fully clear, but yes,

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>he yeah, yeah, he's the brother. What else could he be?

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>He's he's not William Shatner's father. There is a family

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>photo that I guess kind of establishes things early on.

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>But yes. Scarrett was born nineteen thirty three, TV and

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>film actor with credits going back to sixty two. But

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I imagine for many of you, Hey, he's Dallas from

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy Nine's Alien, He's Viper from nineteen eighty six

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>is Top Gun. He also had roles in ninety sevens

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>contact eighty nine Steel Magnolia's other credits include Harold and Maud,

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>The Dead Zone, Mash Poulter Geys three, and Hey, the

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Lambert Chess movie Night Moves. So Scarrett is in

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>a way the hero of this movie, I would say he's,

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's like the other guy there who defeats

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the cult at the end, alongside Eddie Albert. Nevertheless, I'd

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>say his part does not have much to it. He

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>does what is required of him. He's ruggedly handsome in

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that seventies way. He throws a good punch. But I

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>think from what I recall, he actually has rather few lines.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>It seems like he's not a very dialogue oriented character. Yeah,

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>he's you know, he's more action. He's kind of this

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>rugged Western kind of a hero. I guess it's funny

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>seeing him in a role like this because I know

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Tom Scarrett actually did a lot. You know, he's a

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>big star in his day. But for some reason, I

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>primarily associate him with Space, because like the main movies

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I love with him in there are Alien, where he's

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Dallas who's doomed, and in Contact, where he plays a

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of the bureaucratically entangled scientist who you know, knows

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>how to play politics, whereas Ellie Airway does not. And

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's also doomed in Contact. So like he's

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the guy who goes to die in Space. Yeah, so

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>in a way, it's It's kind of odd that Shatner

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and Scarrett don't have their roles reversed here, because yeah, interesting,

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it could be more doomed if he had, if he

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>had to play the other brother all right now playing

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>his character's wife, right, playing Julie Preston. He is the

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>actor Joan Prather Boor nineteen fifty. She was only active

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>from I think seventy two through eighty nine. In addition

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to some TV roles, he appeared in the single Girls

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>from seventy four, Big Bad Mama from seventy four, Smile

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>from seventy five, Rabbit Tests from seventy eight, and Take

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>This Job and Shove It from eighty one. Allegedly, she

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>introduced one of her co stars on this picture to scientology,

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 1>that co star being John Travolta. Okay, so we can

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>get to John Travolta in the second. But I'm gonna

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>say I don't want to be mean, but Joan Prother

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>feels to me like she is on another planet in

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the I don't know if her character is. Maybe it

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>makes sense because she's a character who like has psychic

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>visions and esp but she seems like she's in a

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>trance almost the whole time, not very present. Yeah, and

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>then there's this she does have, I think, an effective

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>screen presence of like um of great distress at times,

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>especially in the final moments of the film. There's a

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>real dark charisma to her that I think works and

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>leaves leaves you on an unsettling note as you leave

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the theater. Yeah. But okay, So you brought up John Travolta.

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I knew he was in this movie, and I was

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>looking out for him while I was watching it, and

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't catch him. I was like, where was John Travolta.

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Thinking back on it and and watching some parts the

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>second time, I think maybe he's a guy that he's

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the guy that Joan Prather and Tom Scarrett fight in

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the house. Yeah. I think by the time we encounter him,

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>he's already cultified, right, right, So he's got mask face,

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>so he's not as clearly recognizable as as Travolta. Yeah.

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I read that after Travolta rose to fame,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>they like they cut a scene back in that had

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>had some uncultified John Travolta not to try and capitalize

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>on it. But that's not present in the cut that

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>we watch. So I can't speak to it, bummer, But yeah,

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>John Travolta playing Danny doesn't even have a last name, Trala.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Is it Zuko? No, that's his character from Grease. He's

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>got the same first name though, Danny Zuka. Okay. Anyway,

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Travolta was born fifty four, and at this point in

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>his career, Yeah, he was super young. He'd done some

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>bit TV roles before, but this was his first film.

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>He'd of course followed this up with some big hits.

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He did carry in seventy six Saturday Night Fever and

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven Grease and seventy eight Urban Cowboy and eighties

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Staying Alive in eighty three. Of course, his career took

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a went on a noticeable slump after this, but then

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>he came back big and ninety four's pull Fiction and

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>was back on top of everything for the rest of

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the decade. Really, for our purposes, I guess we have

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to mention ninety seven Face Off being ultimately a pretty

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>weird film, and then of course there's Year two thousand,

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>magnum Opus Battlefield Earth. I think Face Off is a classic.

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>One thing is people, Okay, so it is an action movie,

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think It is primarily remembered as an action

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>movie with you know, the sort of slow motion gunfight

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>scenes and stuff, but people forget how strange the science

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>fiction premise of that movie is. There's like a prison

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the ocean, and there's face transplants

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and all that. It's like a profoundly odd film Battlefield Earth.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you can even say about that.

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>You've got to get some man animals in here to

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>fix this. All right, Let's see who else do we

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about here? Um, we have a character

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>named John that shows up. He's like the dottering old

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>old man that just talks about it. It came here

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't have faces and melting yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a fun roll character like this in a cult supernatural film.

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>But this is played by Woodrow Chamblis, who lived nineteen

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>fourteen from nineteen eighty one. Mostly a TV actor, but

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>he was also in the nineteen seventy desert horror film

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Gargoyles from seventy two. You know, I haven't seen it,

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>but I've been interested in checking out Gargoyles for Weirdhouse.

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's a nineteen seventy two made for TV. Monster

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>movie with creature effects by Stan Winston starring Bernie Casey. Yeah,

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 1>it's I haven't seen it forever. It's a film that

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>when I see a clip from it, I don't know.

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a film that I caught on Sci

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Fi or maybe A and E God help us back

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in the day. That it's a film that if I

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>see a clip from it, it makes me feel like

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching TV indoors on a nice Sunday afternoon and

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I should really be outdoors. Yeah, yeah, I know what

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>you mean. Yeah, but yeah, maybe it requires some revisiting.

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I recall some fabulous full body guar will shots suits

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that are shot just in like full light. Sorry, I

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>was looking up because I was trying to remember who

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>else was the actor I knew who was in it.

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Scott Glenn is also something. As I said, I haven't

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.240
<v Speaker 1>seen it, but yeah, Bernie Casey plays a gargoyle apparently,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and Scott Glenn's in there somewhere all right. Speaking of

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>in there somewhere, we also have Claudio Brook in this

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 1>picture playing a preacher. He's essentially a witch hunting preacher

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>who burns the Satanist three hundred years ago in a flashback.

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>That's right, a stern witch finder we can all look

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>up to, except he betrays our our main character's ancestors.

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>They're like, hey, if we bring you the Satanic cult,

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>you'll spare us, right, And he's like sure, and then

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>they do. He goes back on his word. He's like, well,

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll spare you as far as like you can go

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>to heaven, but I still have to burn your bodies. Yeah,

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>your bodies did a lot of bad things, like wearing

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>those shorts, so you're you're going up in flames exactly.

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So you never never trust a guy who has a

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Heinrich Kramer test too. Claudio Brook, who I think I've mentioned,

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>even though we haven't talked about a Claudio Brook film before.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic Mexican actor with varied credits extended back through the

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>mid nineteen fifties. His credits range from art films and

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>serious dramas to El Santo pictures and bizarre horror films.

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, we'll come back to him again some day

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>he would. After this, though, he would go on to

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>star in the notable Mexican satanic film Alucarda from nineteen

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven, Dracula backwards. Yeah, oh well, maybe it is

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a Dracula. Yeah, this is not the only film that

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 1>has used Alucard as Dracula spelled backwards. In fact, wasn't

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the undercover vampire in the flashback in Santo in the

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Treasure of Dracula called Count Alucard? Am I wrong about that? Yeah?

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe you're right on this. Now. I haven't seen

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Alucarda yet. It's on my list because it's it's held up.

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.040
<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to be a very good possession film. I

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>don't think it actually has anything to do with with vampires,

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know more of a satanic movie than

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 1>it is a vamp movie. So one thing I read

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>about this movie I think this might have even been

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>on this Wikipedia page, is that some writers somewhere pointed

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>out that this is really a cult movie because it's

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>about a cult. It's a cult movie in the colloquial sense,

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it has a you know, sort of ironic following,

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>but also involved an actual cult leader. I don't I

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's a correct way to categorize what

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Anton LaVey was. But Anton LaVey was involved in making

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>this movie. Yes, he has a credit as playing a

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 1>high priest. You see him in a golden goat helmet,

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and then he was also a technical advisor to like

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>tell them how Satanic magic actually works. Yes, this is

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the way made up Satanic magic works. Allow me to

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>show you so. Anton LaVey lived nineteen thirty through nineteen

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven. He was the then High Priest of the

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Church of Satan and then an also author of the

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Satanic Bible and some other books. I'd say, you know,

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>an interesting cultural figure, a born showman with a knack

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>of keyboards. I suppose we're yeah to infer that he

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>advised the director on some of the finer points of

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>fake Satan worship in this and I believes his wife

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>at the time is also in the picture in the

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>background as part of the main Satanic sequences. He was

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>also an advisor on nineteen seventy four's Lucifer's Women, nineteen

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven's The Car, in which James Brolin battles the

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Satanic Car, nineteen eighty three's Doctor Dracula with John Carradine,

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen eighty nine's Charles Manson Superstar. Apparently he had

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>no involvement with nineteen sixty eight Rosemary's Baby, despite rumors

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to the country. You know, I don't know much about

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Anton LaVey, but I maybe I'm wrong. I thought his

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>version of Satanism was not one that like believed in

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>in actual like the magical, like a sea of rituals

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>or anything. So I'm a little confused about what the

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>technical advising role would be here. Yeah, I don't. I

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think this film is a really an accurate depiction

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of Lavayan Satanism or anything. But you know, maybe it

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was just more a situation where he's like, Hey, I

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>hear you're making a Satanist movie. Don't you think you

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>should hire somebody like me to hang out on set

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and advise you on a couple of things. I can

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 1>loan you some costumes. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's as simple

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>as that. I've got all these ropes, all right, But

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.879
<v Speaker 1>this is a melt movie, and you can't talk about

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a melt movie without talking a little bit about the

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 1>special makeup effects. And that's where Ellis Burman Junior aka

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Sonny Burman comes into play here. He lived nineteen thirty

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>five through twenty twenty. Again, this movie is all about

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>wax based Satanists spurting wax and melting in big puddles

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>of wax, and the lead on all of this was

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Ellis Burman Junior. I've read that they were having to

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>basically invent ways to do all these effects on the fly,

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 1>but they also had days upon day is to produce them,

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>which is why I guess we have so much compelling

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 1>footage of people melting, and yeah, the end results are

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty mesmerizing. Burman's previous work included nineteen seventies Beneath the

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Planet of the Apes, in nineteen seventy two Scargoyles, okay,

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and and I do have to trust that. I think

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it's my understanding that the work of people like Burman

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>aren't necessarily completely reflected in like IMDb credits. A lot

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of times they're on crews for stuff and they're just

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>not they're not credited for what they did. But he

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>definitely followed this up with work on nineteen seventy six

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Is The Man Who Fell to Earth and Return of

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>a Man called Horse, seventy seven's Empire of the Ants

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and Close Encounters of the Third Kind seventy eights, Matilda,

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 1>which is a boxing kangaroo movie starring Elliott Gould. Last

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>time I checked, you could stream that via the Criterion Channel. Wait,

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I just really Empire of the Ants. That's Burt Eye Gordon. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>so we got a mister big connection here. Seven nine, Prophecy,

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 1>The Bear Movie eighty three, Space Hunter eighty four star Man.

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>He did the He was involved in the sloth makeup

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>for nineteen eighty five's The Goonies, and he also worked

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>on nineteen eighty five's Howling Too and Oh and then

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>as far as Trek goes, he worked on Star Trek's five,

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>First Contact Insurrection, fifty episodes of Deep Space nine, Voyager, Enterprise,

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and Nemesis A Star Trek five. That's all you need

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to know. According to its not fair. I'm sorry, I

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. Ellis Burman Junior,

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>which one's five again? Five is the really bad one,

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the one where like they meet what is I think

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>they meet Spok's half brother and he's like and he's like,

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, Spok is all logic and his half brother

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>is all emotion, and he's this like empathic cult leader

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>essentially who who you know, gets people to connect to

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>their pain. And he's like give me your pain, and

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Shatner has a great monologue and it's not actually great,

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>where he's like, by need my pain, I won't give

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you my pain. Our pain makes us who we are.

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And then at the end they go to a place

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the galaxy where God lives essentially,

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>but then it's not really God. It's like the Wizard

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of Oz and it's revealed to just be some kind

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 1>of alien. They blast him. Yeah, all right, okay, one

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>that one does ring a bell. Now, it's not good.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>It's widely considered one of the worst Star Trek movies.

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, we can't we can't blame Berman

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:33.280
<v Speaker 1>for this. According to his obit, his company Cosmic Kinetics,

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>also was involved in building the Terminator robot for the

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Terminator and the creation of alf all right. And then finally,

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the music credit here goes to al de Lori, who

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.919
<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen thirty through twenty twelve. I thought the music

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in this film was quite effective. Kind of a general

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>ambiance of weird, unsettling instrumental drift and occasional cacophony that's

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of fitting for that nineteen seventies nigh gallery vibe

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 1>m Albalai was a sessions keyboardist who worked mostly in pop, surf, rock,

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and country. He was also a Grammy Award winning producer

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 1>who produced a number of non satanic hits for Glenn

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Campbell in the nineteen sixties, including Gentle on My Mind,

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>By the Time I Get to Phoenix, Wichita, Lineman, and Galveston.

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.439
<v Speaker 1>He was a sessions musician on The Beach Boys Pet

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Sounds in sixty six. Yeah, and then he also did

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>this score. He has I think eleven composition credits on IMDb.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 1>But this is really the only film that stands out

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>certainly to me, And as far as I know, this

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>soundtrack has never been released as a as an album

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>in any format. Hey, some boutique reissuer put it put

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>this out on vinyl. Oh yeah, I mean the melty

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>effects in this film. There's so many great directions you

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:59.959
<v Speaker 1>could go with that vinyl. Yeah, all right, we ready

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you talk about the plot. Let's do it so it

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.800
<v Speaker 1>begins with a bunch of you know, infernal whaling that

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>it kind of sounds like the Siberian Well to Hell

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>hoax tape. I think I've made that comparison on this

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>show before. About as general audio montages of whaling. But

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.720
<v Speaker 1>then we fade to bosh and we start seeing scenes

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>from the triptych of the Last Judgment, so, you know,

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a little hellish vignettes. There's a general survey of unpleasant

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>imagery from paintings. You get birdmen with black eyes and

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>cauldrons for helmets eating naked sinners along with you know more.

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>You know now, that's what I call moaning and lamentations

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>and people screaming let me out of here, and so forth.

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>And then the actual action opens with an image of

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>a crucifix. There's a painted wooden Christ hanging from the cross,

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and the shadow of a human hand cast across the figure,

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and then the sound of a rolling storm in the background,

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 1>with rain and heavy thunder, and we reveal a woman

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>looking nervously out of window into the night as the

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>rain pours down. And this is Missus Preston, played by

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Ida Lupino. She clearly has tattered nerves. She's something is

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>worrying her greatly, and a man named John brings her

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>some tea, but she spills it. She's she's so frazzled John,

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you take John here to be like their butler?

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Sort of he wasn't dressed like a butler, and a

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Victorian said, I don't know what he was. He just

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>brought them tea. Yeah, this is the old man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Um yeah, because he's not her husband,

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>because we're about to meet him. So yeah, he's just

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of I don't know if he's supposed to be

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>an uncle or what. Oh maybe he's an uncle. Yeah, Okay,

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know he's I don't know. He's some guy.

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>They just call him John. Finally, somebody arrives at the

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>door and it is Ida Lupino's son Mark, played by

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>none other than William Shatner. So he comes in from

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 1>out of the rain. As we alluded to earlier, this

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>movie really throws you right into the middle of the

0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>action with no explanation. And I could explain with hindsight

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.280
<v Speaker 1>of having seen the rest of the movie what happens

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>in this scene, but I think if I did, it

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 1>would not really capture the level of randomness and confusion

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel as a first time viewer. So I kind

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 1>of want to do a little beat by beat here,

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, So Shatner comes in the door, Missus Preston

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 1>greets him with relief, she calls him Mark. She says well,

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Mark says, no sign of him, odd inflection, like was

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>their sign of somebody else or the truck. Shatner says,

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I got as far as Simpson's bridge, or what's left

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of it. The river's about swept it away, and missus

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Preston says he couldn't have just disappeared. He couldn't, and

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Shatner says he probably pulled off someplace to wade out

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the storm. And Shatner lifts the telephone from the hook

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and he says, gazing off into the distance ponderously and

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 1>with surprise, it's still dead. Missus Preston says, I know.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Shatner says the winds knocked the lines down, and missus

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Preston says, I don't think so, and they start to argue.

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>So Mark says it's just the storm, and she insists, no,

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 1>it's my dream night after night. It always starts the

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>same way. It starts with a storm and then your father.

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>But Mark cuts her off. He doesn't want to hear this,

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>He's heard it a thousand times. He insists that father

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>is all right. He says, there's you know, there's no

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>way he got turned into a weird makeup effect. And

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>then the dog starts barking outside, so they go outside.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>John says someone's here, and they all go to look,

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and then a guy staggers in through the rain, his

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>shirts torn open with frankly hilarious makeup. His eyes have

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:42.280
<v Speaker 1>been like the area around his eyes has been replaced

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>with a rubber mask that has sort of blended in

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to his skin, with makeup around that, and his eyes

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 1>are hollow, like there are not eyeballs in them. There's

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like sort of black cloth behind his eyelids. I think

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>when I first saw this, it seemed like we were

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 1>supposed to understand that he had been tortured or mutilated

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>or something. But looking back on it now, I think

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just that he has been mask faced by

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the coult. Yeah. I have to say I like the

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the the effect they did with their like weird waxy

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.919
<v Speaker 1>faces and no eyes, with this kind of like red

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>swelling around where the eyes used to be. Um. I mean,

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>it's an obvious makeup effect, but it also it made

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>me think about how well nowadays and certainly for decades now,

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the go to for this effect. He has put some

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>black contacts in those eyeballs, right, and uh, and you

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 1>know that can look really good, but it's also been

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>so done to death, like it's it's done in so

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>many movies of varying budgets. It's done by just teenagers

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>at the mall, so it's it's it's kind of lost

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of its impact. So it's kind of neat

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>to see something that goes in a different direction. I

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>guess before those contacts were available. I'll take that. I'll

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:59.919
<v Speaker 1>take that, okay, So uh, Shatner says, Dad, and miss

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Preston says Steve, and the guy staggering in says the

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>book Corbus, and missus Preston says, oh God help us,

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 1>and Mark says where is Corbus? And boy, I hope

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you like the word Corbus, because you're going to hear

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>people say it about six thousand times, and especially Shatner

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>will just punctuate every line he says with Corbus, and

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>especially since it's one of those it's like a kind

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of a funny sounding name. It doesn't necessarily it might

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 1>be a real name, but it doesn't sound like a

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>real name. It sounds like the kind of name people

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>make up for for a fictional story without checking to

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>see if anybody's actually named that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, or

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>something made up on the fly, and the Dungeons and

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Dragon session like maybe they originally named this character Corbus.

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>And then they're like, I don't know, it sounds too

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>too bird like and he's a goat. Yeah, now that

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I say, I'm sure Corpus is a real name. I

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It just it just doesn't have that feeling.

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 1>But okay, so you know where is Corbus? So very

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>very dramatic inquiry by William Shatner here and Steve the

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 1>mask faced man says the desert redstone. He's waiting for

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the book. Give Corbus what belongs to him, and then

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 1>he collapses on the ground and starts to melt, and

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Missus Preston says, don't go near him, don't touch him.

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 1>But he's like, I don't even know how to describe this.

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 1>He looks like he's covered in melting wax crayon tumors. Yeah,

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's gross and and it's certainly surreal, but

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:40.399
<v Speaker 1>also feels it doesn't it doesn't. Yeah, like you say,

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.359
<v Speaker 1>it's not. They're not going for a realistic biological melting here,

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>this is something else going on, and so it hits

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 1>all the right notes. It doesn't. It's not one of

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the things where you watch it and you're like, ah,

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>this is this is fake. I mean, you know it's

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>not real. It's easy to suspend disbelief, but it's it's

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>very gross. There's a strong element of body hartor here.

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>So the melting Steve starts talking in Latin and Miss

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Preston repeats him. He's saying in nominee satanis in the

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>name of Satan. That wasn't your father And they argue

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 1>about this shatters like it was his face. It was

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 1>his clothes, but was it his face. We'll never find out.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.919
<v Speaker 1>We never will find out, that's right. So Miss Preston says,

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the book, the book, don't you see my dream? It

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 1>was a warning they found us. So again, this is

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the kind of like thrown into the middle of equality

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that makes me think this is like an anthology TV episode,

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like the cold open on Ones, the

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>teaser to be like, what is going on and hopefully

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>it will be explained later, Yeah, but it won't, not

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to any compartially. It will be partially explained. Yeah, so

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody goes inside, We're treated to a long shot of

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the rain splattering upon the puddle of green and blue

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>goop that was once Steve Eve and man, they are

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>really banking on you enjoying looking at this. Because I

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>went back and timed it. The shot of the goop

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>is seventeen seconds long. Yeah, they really milk there with

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:18.240
<v Speaker 1>their wax goop shots in this picture. I think Fulchi

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>would would approved. I think he would. He would say,

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.760
<v Speaker 1>good notes on this. You should definitely let the camera

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 1>linger over the gross things. Oh yes, the fulchy ethos

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 1>is oh, oh is this? Is this a part of

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the body that's usually on the inside, but now it's

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>on the outside. Let's get a look at that. Okay,

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 1>So inside they arguing. The confusing arguing continues again. The

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>viewer is like, has no idea, what's going on? Miss

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Preston says Corbus, has your father? I tell you it

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't him, Mark, it wasn't him. And so the melting

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 1>man had said Corbus was in Redstone, and they explained

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.360
<v Speaker 1>this is the old mining town, a god forsaken place.

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>And then missus Preston pries up a loose brick from

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the floor and reveals a secret compartment from which she

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:09.320
<v Speaker 1>removes an old book, and then she gives it to Shatner.

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 1>She begs him to take the book to Corbus, and

0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Shatner refuses. He says, I won't give the Devil's man

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>what he wants. And so they're, you know, they're like, well,

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 1>we gotta be we gotta do something. So Mark Shatner,

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Mark the character, goes in. He gets a pistol out

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of a drawer, and he says, I'll fight him on

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>my terms, not his. And then missus Preston says, she

0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 1>like pulls out something. We can't even really see what

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it is. It's sort of offscreen, but she's like holding

0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>something in her hands, and she says, Corbus can't harm

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you as long as you wear this amulet. What sounds

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>good though, he's being he's going on a quest, all right. Yes,

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:50.919
<v Speaker 1>he has a gun. He needs a magical item as well.

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Magical item, so she gives him an amulet. No explanation

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>of the amulet. Then somebody arrives in a truck outside.

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Mark goes out to meet him, wearing a rain jacket

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and a cowboy hat. So there's a shatterer in a

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>cowboy hat, and who is this supposed to be? I

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:10.439
<v Speaker 1>think maybe it's supposed to be the father. But Mark goes,

0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:12.560
<v Speaker 1>he gets out to the truck and then he finds

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:14.839
<v Speaker 1>a doll pinned to the steering wheels. So there's nobody

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 1>in the truck. It's just a creepy doll. Yeah, And

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 1>then there's like a scream from inside. Right. This is

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the at least a couple of moments in

0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the film where unseen cultists are just totally rolling high

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:29.799
<v Speaker 1>with their dexterity checks, with their stealth checks, because they

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 1>can just move around unseen. They're like the Dwarfs and Phantasm. Yes,

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 1>by the time you know they were there, they've already

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 1>like blown up a car or something exactly right. So

0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 1>he hears commotion back at the house and he runs

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.760
<v Speaker 1>back in. He finds John hanging upside down from the ceiling.

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 1>He's not dead, he's still like he cuts him down,

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>but he's somehow they got him hanging upside down from

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the ceiling. The house is fully ransacked, his mother is missing.

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:56.360
<v Speaker 1>All in a matter of what seemed like about fifteen seconds,

0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Like we looked at the goop in the rain longer

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:04.319
<v Speaker 1>than Chatner was outside, that's true. But the old man John,

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:08.320
<v Speaker 1>he's he's sitting there recovering from his experience, and he

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:12.279
<v Speaker 1>says they had no faces, no faces. And then I think,

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I think what Shatner's character goes and make sure the

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:18.800
<v Speaker 1>book is still in the in its hiding place, and yes, basically,

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:20.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like, all right, I'm going to continue my next

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:22.680
<v Speaker 1>phase of the quest. That's right. So he goes on

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the hunt for Corbus and we are treated here to

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a good amount of padding scenes of him driving around

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.800
<v Speaker 1>in the desert, standing next to the car and stuff,

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and eventually he arrives at Redstone. This is a desert

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:38.760
<v Speaker 1>ghost town with with an eerie New England style church building.

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It's all boarded up from the outside. And Mark drives

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 1>up and he is greeted in the middle of the

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>town by a laconical cowboy played by Ernest Borgnine, and

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:52.920
<v Speaker 1>there's there's initially almost a kind of um, you know,

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 1>gospel story kind of miracle at the water pump. So

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Shatner is trying to work the water pumped it because

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>he's thirsty, I guess, and nothing comes out with dust

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and then Ernest Borgnine walks over and he's like, hey there,

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and he pumps the pump and it just gushes with water. Oh,

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and then Shatner tastes the water, but he says it's

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.760
<v Speaker 1>bitter and he spits it out. And then I wonder

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 1>if what you made of this? So he says it's bitter,

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 1>he spits it out. Then Borgnine says sweet way to

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:24.320
<v Speaker 1>endo thirst though, isn't it? And I didn't understand what

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:27.200
<v Speaker 1>this meant, Like was he saying I don't know the

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.920
<v Speaker 1>water was bitter because it was poison and Borgnine is

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 1>praising the exquisite embrace of death. I just kind of

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 1>chalked it up to being like cowboy nothing dialogue, you

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:42.399
<v Speaker 1>know that, it's just like, oh you're thirsty, cowboy, here

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you go. Yeah, because the poison, that interpretation doesn't make

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 1>sense because next Chatterer does drink it. Now. I wasn't

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 1>sure if at this point Schattner's character knows who Corbus

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>is or knows that this is Corbus, like it was.

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I found like this was a little bit vague, because

0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:00.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. This is our evil cult leader and

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 1>his most human cowboy form. Yeah, so he I think

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 1>he does he knows there is a Corbus, but he

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't realize this is Corbus. He's like, I will speak

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>only to Corbus, and then Corbus says, I am Corpus,

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.120
<v Speaker 1>speak to me, and he gets right down to business.

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:17.880
<v Speaker 1>So Shatner wants his family back. He's like, give me

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>my mother and father, and borg nine says, did you

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 1>bring the book? And Shatner says, I'm not afraid of you. Corbus.

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Corbus and mister you know, Corbus says, mister Preston, I'd

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 1>be very disappointed if you were. So they start kind

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of posturing at each other, you know. Shatner is like,

0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you're evil and Corbus is like, let me show you

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 1>what I've put my faith in. And there's a great

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>moment like Shatner angles toward the camera and points his

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>finger out. He's pointing straight into the camera and he

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>says Corbus. He says, I'll face whatever you have behind

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:54.439
<v Speaker 1>those doors, and I guess he's talking about the church,

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 1>he says, and I'll come out exactly as I went in. So,

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, after this kind of posturing, they eventually agree

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>on a trial, a test, a challenge. Mark will go

0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>inside Corbus's boarded up church and face whatever's in there,

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and it'll be a test of faith, Corbus's faith against

0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 1>a Marks, which I suppose is mainline Christianity. And if

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Mark prevails, Corbus will release his mother and father. If

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Corbus prevails, Mark will bring him the book. We don't again,

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what this book is. It's just a book. Now.

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it is really early in the picture. To just

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>go all in on a bat against the chief antagonist

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 1>does not bode well from Mark here where he's just like,

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's do it, let's go week. I think

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>we can end this picture in the first half hour.

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting my soul and everything on the line. Give me,

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>give me your worst board nine. You can imagine that

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the next forty five minutes are eating up with shots

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of them walking to the church. But anyway, so they

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>go into the church, Okay, let's describe it. So it

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>is a Satanic church. Is pew is full of figures

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 1>in black hoods and robes and kind of an omega

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>man ash. I don't know which movie came out first,

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 1>but there are red and purple curtains, candles, a stone

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 1>altar topped with an inverted cross and draped with cloth

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that says Reggie Satanas and it's got a big pentacle.

0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 1>The vibe is very incense books just weird, absolutely, but

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 1>also there is there are illustrations, so like there is

0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a big stained glass window, which okay, so this is

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a Satanic church with a stained glass window. They actually

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>commissioned that. I'm gonna say the stained glass goat head

0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 1>needs some work. It does not look very scary. It

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 1>looks like a sports mascot, like it could be the

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bulls logo. It does. It does look a little

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:55.880
<v Speaker 1>sports mascotti, a little superhero ish and I don't know

0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>if the it's it's white too. Yeah, I'm not sure

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.280
<v Speaker 1>if that has that's maybe due to the like Lavayan

1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Satanism influence like this, you know, sort of this idea

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of Satan Lucifer the light Bringer or something or if.

1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just some sort of quirk at design,

1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>but it stands out in a way that's maybe not

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:19.360
<v Speaker 1>completely great. But but I mean, the rest of the

1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 1>set looks really good though. I think it's a nice dark,

1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:26.400
<v Speaker 1>atmospheric Satanic chapel, like if you were part of a

1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Satanic couple looking to get married. This is a proper venue.

1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, go for it, I guess. So, yeah, yeah,

1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:36.040
<v Speaker 1>we commit ourselves to evil anew every day. And so

1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:38.480
<v Speaker 1>oh they've even got a Satanic organ. I thought that

1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was funny with the pipes and the nice Yeah. So

1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Shatner goes in. You know, he's still got his magic

1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:47.800
<v Speaker 1>amulet and his guns, so I think he's feeling confident.

1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And Ernest borgnine comes out. He's changed out of his

1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:55.880
<v Speaker 1>cowboy outfit into a cribson robe majestic Satanic regalia. And

1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, a long story short, they both start praying

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:03.000
<v Speaker 1>for Nine is praying to Satan, Shatner is praying to Jesus.

1:01:03.200 --> 1:01:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And eventually, you know that it kind of like it

1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:10.440
<v Speaker 1>comes to a to a peak, and Shatner gets freaked

1:01:10.480 --> 1:01:13.520
<v Speaker 1>out because he sees his mother among the Devil's congregation

1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and she has the mask face with the with the

1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:19.280
<v Speaker 1>black eyes, and you know, she she's telling, you know,

1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:21.720
<v Speaker 1>it's very joy in us. She says, you will know

1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the peace of mind that I have found. And Shatner

1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:27.560
<v Speaker 1>gets scared and he starts blasting with his gun. He

1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:31.000
<v Speaker 1>shoots a cultist and multicolored goop comes out of him.

1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:34.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like pink and Green Goop, and borg nine has

1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a very actually great moment again, Ernest Borgnine is just,

1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a class above what this movie is.

1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:44.600
<v Speaker 1>He has a great moment where he sort of scoffs

1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:47.880
<v Speaker 1>at Shatner shooting the gun. He says, is that your faith?

1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And Shatner runs outside. He still thinks the magical amulet

1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:54.880
<v Speaker 1>will protect him, so he's holding it up and he says,

1:01:54.880 --> 1:02:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm still free. Corbus Corbus and borg nine He's even

1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:03.560
<v Speaker 1>got away around this. Bourg Nine makes him hallucinate that

1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the amulet is actually a snake wrapped around his neck,

1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:09.200
<v Speaker 1>so Shatner willingly takes it off and throws it to

1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the ground. Whoops. Yeah, and then just he sends in

1:02:13.360 --> 1:02:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the cultists to grab him and hold him down. Yeah,

1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:19.080
<v Speaker 1>he says, soon the family name of Preston will be

1:02:19.280 --> 1:02:21.680
<v Speaker 1>no more. And then from here we cut to a

1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:24.360
<v Speaker 1>different movie. Now we're in Scanners, though to be fair,

1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:28.640
<v Speaker 1>this was before Scanners. Yeah, we have to go to

1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the occult research facility at the nearest University I believe. Yeah,

1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where this what university is supposed to be,

1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:40.120
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's like an academic medical setting. And we

1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:44.560
<v Speaker 1>see Joan Prather lying on a table and they say

1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:47.920
<v Speaker 1>that she is consciously controlling the rate of her heartbeat.

1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:50.040
<v Speaker 1>So I guess we should describe the new characters we

1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:52.360
<v Speaker 1>meet in the scene. We meet Eddie Albert as doctor

1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Sam Richards, we meet Tom Skarrett as doctor Tom Preston,

1:02:57.280 --> 1:03:01.240
<v Speaker 1>and Joan Prather as Julie Preston. So they're like in

1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a university auditorium. They're doing a demonstration of Julie's psychic powers,

1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and there is a wonderful nonsense exchange. So the professor,

1:03:11.040 --> 1:03:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Albert says, there is nothing subconscious that cannot be

1:03:15.080 --> 1:03:18.200
<v Speaker 1>raised to the conscious level, and then a student goes,

1:03:18.680 --> 1:03:23.800
<v Speaker 1>what about parapsychology telepathy. Professor says, yes, I include that

1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:29.080
<v Speaker 1>extrasensory perception. And the student says, doctor Preston, isn't there

1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a danger that these experiments could interfere with normal brain activity?

1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:37.160
<v Speaker 1>And Tom Scritt says, no, no, no, We've studied many

1:03:37.280 --> 1:03:40.520
<v Speaker 1>cases like this. There's no reason for concern. If there were,

1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:45.800
<v Speaker 1>believe me, my wife would not be involved. So doctor

1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Richard says, you know, you said, yeah, there's no danger,

1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:50.400
<v Speaker 1>only discovery, and that they are finally on the verge

1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of discovering quote the brain wave pattern that signifies esp activity,

1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:59.720
<v Speaker 1>and so Julie's I don't know, she's controlling her heartbeat

1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. And she starts reporting her experience. She says,

1:04:02.720 --> 1:04:05.080
<v Speaker 1>it starts with a feeling of absolute calm, as if

1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I were drifting into a perfect sleep. It sounds like

1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:10.480
<v Speaker 1>she's kind of describing like a self hypnosis or something.

1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And she goes on and mentions a few more things,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually she starts seeing things. She says, a

1:04:16.400 --> 1:04:19.840
<v Speaker 1>funny change takes place. There are images and sounds, and

1:04:20.040 --> 1:04:23.240
<v Speaker 1>she sees the Chicago Bulls logo. You know it's it's

1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the goat face on the stained glass. And then she

1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:32.360
<v Speaker 1>sees shirtless William Shatner being tortured, and she sees people

1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:35.760
<v Speaker 1>in robes with torches, and she sees Ernest borgnine in

1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:39.480
<v Speaker 1>goat makeup, and she sees herself trapped behind glass being

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<v Speaker 1>rained on, and she suddenly screams. She screams Tom, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Tom Scarrett runs up to her and he says, Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>something's happened to my family. I didn't understand this at all, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how does he know she's the one who's psychic and

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<v Speaker 1>she hasn't told him yet. Yeah, this whole sequence is

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<v Speaker 1>spawn because it's yeah, it's like, what's going on with her?

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<v Speaker 1>How does he know it? The whole exchange that seems

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<v Speaker 1>like she just has a general case of the paranormals

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and now she has been awakened some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of insight into what's going on with the colt certainly

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<v Speaker 1>access to scenes from the film that we haven't we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't witnessed yet. Uh So now we have new characters

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<v Speaker 1>in on the hunt. So we cut to the desert. Tom, Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>and doctor Richards all go out to the desert to investigate. First,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a scene with the sheriff played by bat

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<v Speaker 1>Guano played by by Keenan Wynn, and uh, the Sheriff's

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<v Speaker 1>basically like, sorry, I can't help you. There's been a

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<v Speaker 1>storm and we're still rescuing hundreds of people and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>your you know, your folks were probably just killed in

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<v Speaker 1>the storm. There's no chance they were turned into wax

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<v Speaker 1>by an evil culd. So the police are not helping,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. The Preston's are on their They check at

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<v Speaker 1>the house to hear the story of what happened from

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<v Speaker 1>the old Man John. He describes the encounter from earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they find one clue on the ground. There

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<v Speaker 1>is hardened wax out on the sidewalk. Yeah. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>just keep picking at it. Yeah, it's like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that dripped from. Don't get your hands all

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<v Speaker 1>over that. That's true. Yeah, So they go to Redstone. Oh, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a There are scenes where William Shatner is

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<v Speaker 1>being like sexy tortured by Ernest Borgnine. So he is

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<v Speaker 1>shirtless and wrapped up in chains and borg Nine's taunting him, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me where the book is. You gambled and you lost,

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<v Speaker 1>Give me the book. And then borg nine brings him, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>a vision of Lilith, the Queen of Delights, who's just

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<v Speaker 1>like a lady, who comes and kisses William Shatner and

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<v Speaker 1>then he's like, oh ha, it was actually your mother

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<v Speaker 1>and she still doesn't have eyes. Tom Scarrett and Julie

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<v Speaker 1>arrive in Redstone and they're looking around checking everything out.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems deserted. They don't run into anybody at first. They

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<v Speaker 1>go and investigate the Devil's Chapel and look all around

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and then Finally, when they're back outside, they

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<v Speaker 1>get attacked by a cult member in a speeding car,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a big chase and they run into a

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<v Speaker 1>building and they fight and wrestle. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>John Travolta. Maybe, yeah, I think this is elis John

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<v Speaker 1>Travolta that they encounter. So they beat up John Travolta,

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<v Speaker 1>tie him up, and then then like Julie looks into

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<v Speaker 1>his non eyes and this unlocks a long flashback. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this takes us back three hundred years and gives us

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<v Speaker 1>the origin story of all this culting nonsense that's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So the short version is that Ernest borg nine Corbus

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<v Speaker 1>once ran a Satanic cult in colonial New England, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of his cult members betrayed him and stole a

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<v Speaker 1>book in which they all wrote down the names of

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<v Speaker 1>those who had pledged their souls to Satan, and Corbus

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<v Speaker 1>wants the book back. He and there the sequence. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of very funny I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>felt like overuse of these, and thou was I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>an expert on archaic grammars, so maybe they were being

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<v Speaker 1>used correctly, but it felt weird. So borg nine is

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<v Speaker 1>walking around this room full of people kind of cowering

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<v Speaker 1>in fear, and he says, didst one of the fall

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<v Speaker 1>from the favor of Lucifer. Yeah, so I get my

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<v Speaker 1>loose understanding of all this is that he's the devil's man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's maybe not even human. He brings satanic cultism to

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<v Speaker 1>these various pilgrim folks. They get to enjoy the pleasures

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<v Speaker 1>of the flash and so forth, and then he's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm going to take you to the Hell as

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<v Speaker 1>per our original arrangement. And then at least some of

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<v Speaker 1>the cult members were like, it would really be great

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<v Speaker 1>to not do that. We'd rather not go to the hell.

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't we just steal that book that he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote our names in and then we can get buy

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<v Speaker 1>in a technicality, Right then he won't remember which of

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<v Speaker 1>us got the pleasures of the flesh, I guess, so

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<v Speaker 1>he'll he just like can't recall who it was who

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<v Speaker 1>wore shorts, or maybe he needs to produce documentary evidence too,

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<v Speaker 1>Satan in order to fulfill this end of the bargain. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you can't produce a copy of the contract,

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<v Speaker 1>it might as well not exist. Yeah, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>lawful evil. Oh, and one of these, one of these

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<v Speaker 1>ancient colonial times guys is William Shatner, And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this is h was Shatner. Martin Fife, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>borgnine keeps saying this name without explaining what it means. Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's one of these things where everyone we

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<v Speaker 1>see here that's not Ernest borgnine, like their descendants, just

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<v Speaker 1>happen to look like them, as this sometimes the case

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<v Speaker 1>with movies and certainly with damned Bloodlines and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, as far as Williams, I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as Ernest Borgnine's Corbus is concerned, he's not really

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<v Speaker 1>a human entity anyway, so he can come back later

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<v Speaker 1>and look just like himself, no problem, right, So they

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<v Speaker 1>eventually revealed that I think it was. It was Aaronnessa,

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<v Speaker 1>the wife of Martin Fife played by Shatner. She is

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<v Speaker 1>the one who stole the book, and she has brought

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<v Speaker 1>an angry pitchfork mob led by the Reverend Claudio Brook Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they capture all the Satanists and burn them. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they're they're burning Ernest bourg nine and he, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's great in the scene, he's like on the stake laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, think ye, to destroy something stronger than life. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is a moment where, unless I heard this wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Claudio Brooks says um. He says, you are

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<v Speaker 1>condemned because of your hinneous crimes that you committed. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so oh oh this is also Martin Fife and Aranessa

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<v Speaker 1>are betrayed by Claudio Brooks. So I think she had

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<v Speaker 1>made a deal with him. She's like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I reveal the existence of the Satanic cult. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you who they are and where to find him. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I hand over the book or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I take away the book. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if she gave him the book but to reveal the

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<v Speaker 1>cult and that her husband would be spared. And nope,

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<v Speaker 1>Claudio brook goes back on his word. He's like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>all gonna burn. Sorry, But I think Corbus sent a

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<v Speaker 1>kid off through a secret passage way with the book

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<v Speaker 1>or something. The book gets away and of course and

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<v Speaker 1>becomes this whole plotline. Why did the Preston's have the book?

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<v Speaker 1>I forget how did they end up with the book?

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<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't Corbus have it? I think it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>family secret, like, hey, guess what, our entire family line,

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<v Speaker 1>our entire bloodline going back three hundred years, is actually damned.

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<v Speaker 1>But as long as the forces of Satan don't get

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<v Speaker 1>this book, then it's like we're not damned. So just

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that nobody comes walking asking around for the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Better put it beneath the floorboards. But physically, how did

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<v Speaker 1>the Preston family end up with it? I think they do,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe say in the movie, but I forgot what. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how that happened. I do not know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so they've got the book for some and

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<v Speaker 1>Corbus has wanted it back for hundreds of years. Finally

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<v Speaker 1>he's got them, and he is going to sexy torture

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<v Speaker 1>William Shatner until he gives him the book. And back

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<v Speaker 1>in the present, so you know they've seen all this.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tom Skirrett sends Julie off to h I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what, get the sheriff or something, and Tom goes back.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's watching the procession of Satan's minions. They're like

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<v Speaker 1>walking through the hills carrying torches. And now does he

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<v Speaker 1>sneak in yet or is that later? No, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where he sneaks in. He because, as we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>to infiltrate any kind of cultic activity, all you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do is put a robe on and nobody will notice. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he sneaks They don't notice that he still has eyeballs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of sneaks in with them to witness the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Mass. And this is where we see Ernest borgnine

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<v Speaker 1>in goat makeup. So he's got shaggy hair now and

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<v Speaker 1>a billy goat beard and big old rams horns. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know if they're rams horns, goat

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<v Speaker 1>horns whatever, you know, horns and uh. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Comments on good form, oh, just that you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good look. I like the makeup effects, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're just you're inhibiting Ernest borgnine's acting ability by covering

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<v Speaker 1>up that expressive face of his even a little bit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they bring out shirtless Shatner and he is transformed into

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<v Speaker 1>another mask face. They give him the black cloth eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, he's one of them now against his will.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we see Anton Lavay in the background

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<v Speaker 1>in the scene. He's wearing like a gold helmet that

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<v Speaker 1>actually looks a lot like the motorcycle helmets in Psychomania.

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<v Speaker 1>It is reminiscent of that. We should also mention when

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<v Speaker 1>we start seeing them the hat the eyeless Shatner here.

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<v Speaker 1>This of course will remind some folks of the mask

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<v Speaker 1>from Halloween, and at least there I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to really figure this out. I don't think ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>that people making a case that that cast originates from

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<v Speaker 1>this film, but I think that has been claimed in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, So I'm not exactly sure what picture the

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<v Speaker 1>Shatner cast comes from that ultimately becomes the Michael Myers mask,

1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but at least some folks have pointed to this film

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<v Speaker 1>as a possible origin point. Certainly, when you see Elis

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<v Speaker 1>William Shatner his face turned into a flesh mask, it

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<v Speaker 1>does bring to mind Michael Myers a little bit. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good point, and I can see it there. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, Tom Scarrett gets caught, maybe he sees

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<v Speaker 1>his mother or something, but the big fight breaks out,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of has to blast his way out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>He runs off and escapes. Meanwhile, Julie is captured by

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<v Speaker 1>the cultists, and so the final act is the showdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom goes back and meets with doctor Richards and they

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<v Speaker 1>try to figure out what's going on. They've got the

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<v Speaker 1>book now, and they're like looking, they're like reading the

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<v Speaker 1>book and trying to figure out the lore, and they

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<v Speaker 1>read things like I condemn thy soul to the Devil's reign.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the devil's reign? Don't know yet? Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we might never know. We get some we get some

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<v Speaker 1>additional evidence, but the jury is still out right. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's get to the part with this. So they

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the town and they go to the

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<v Speaker 1>chapel Julie is being inducted into the cult out in

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<v Speaker 1>the wilderness. They go into the chapel while it's empty,

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<v Speaker 1>they find like a like a man hole to Hell

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<v Speaker 1>in the chapel. Is that how you understood it? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Basically they this is time Scarrets of Character has been

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<v Speaker 1>here before and just like they didn't search anything at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this time they do uncover this weird well

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<v Speaker 1>that I yeah, maybe goes to Hell, who knows. But

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<v Speaker 1>in it it has this bizarre artifact that I guess

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a ah, what is this like a large

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<v Speaker 1>vase with a golden goat head on it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>an orb that contains a television and the show. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like an oval screen that is showing you a TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's on the show is a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 1>standing in the rain and screaming and saying let me out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on top of the TV, the orb shaped TV,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a golden goat head. And then they refer

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<v Speaker 1>to this the object as the Devil's rain. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>the best I can do is that if you become

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<v Speaker 1>a Satanic cultist serving Corbus, your body becomes a wax

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<v Speaker 1>body because your soul has left your real body and

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<v Speaker 1>your soul is now in some sort of a rainy

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<v Speaker 1>nether realm that is contained within this artifact, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has a screen so people can like watch what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in that, so you can count and keep track of

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<v Speaker 1>the souls that are inside it. I guess, yeah, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the yeah, the big showdown, so they find this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think doctor Richards runs off with this artifact. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember what he's planning to do with it, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's a showdown in the church where Tom Scarrett confronts

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<v Speaker 1>them and they're trying to rescue Julie, and there's a

1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:01.519
<v Speaker 1>big fight, and in the end, the guy who saves

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<v Speaker 1>the day is doctor Richards, the pseudoscientist here comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, he's like, I've got the Devil's Rain

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<v Speaker 1>and I defeat you, and he smashes it. Oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how it goes down, okay, because he has

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<v Speaker 1>it and he's like, I'll smash it. And then Carves

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<v Speaker 1>is like, get that from this old fool, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they grab it from him. The Shatner's character grabs it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. But then the doc says, he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what Shatner's character's name. Mark. He's like, Mark, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do this, Mark, you can end all this suffering.

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<v Speaker 1>And somehow he gets through to the possessed Shatner and

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<v Speaker 1>he smashes it. And then that does I'm not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>sure what. It releases their souls from the Devil's Rain

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<v Speaker 1>the object and makes them susceptible to melting in the

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<v Speaker 1>rain because it then starts to actually rain from the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>And here we get to the most famous scene in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, the Great Melting, the final melt down. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to do a whole little subsection here

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<v Speaker 1>devoted to the final meltdown. So the cultists, it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to rain when that happens, and the cultists all melt,

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<v Speaker 1>and they melt and melt and melt and melt and

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<v Speaker 1>melt and melt. And my memory from the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I saw I saw this movie hold so strong and

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<v Speaker 1>the melting is interminable in a way that took me

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<v Speaker 1>through a whole series of reactions that went on. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ah, this is weird, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>greatly enjoying it. Then I started to get bored, Then

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<v Speaker 1>I started to get annoyed. Then I came full circle

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<v Speaker 1>and became just just in filled with respect and admiration

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<v Speaker 1>for the relentlessness of the great melt. Yeah. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>basically how everything goes down pacing wise, So I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that once people started melting, this is what the film

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<v Speaker 1>was now, Yeah, and that I should just roll with

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<v Speaker 1>it and find enjoyment in it. And you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the various details of um, you know, of robed

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<v Speaker 1>cultists melting out of their eyeballs, falling and then melting,

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<v Speaker 1>more of of of goat headed corbus melting as he

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<v Speaker 1>struggles with somebody there on the altarpiece. Yeah, there's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just melt. A melting masterpiece. If you like people

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<v Speaker 1>melting in the multicolored goo, no other film will do

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<v Speaker 1>it for you like this. Oh, and then there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a stinger, right, so we think all the

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<v Speaker 1>cultists melt, including Ernest borgnine. He melts. He kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like retains his form somewhat as he melts, so he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just turn into goo. He like his face becomes

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<v Speaker 1>huge and kind of stretches and stuff. Yeah, bulging eye

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<v Speaker 1>looks very gross. And then kind of like topples over

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<v Speaker 1>into the hell well and flames shoot up. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>not we're sort of we think, Okay, I guess he's

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. I think he's defeated. Oh, but then

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<v Speaker 1>we see like a hand come back up. But then

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<v Speaker 1>the church explodes, so maybe he is defeated after all.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we at the end, Julie and Tom are

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<v Speaker 1>hugging and it's like, oh, we've made it through. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like revealed that maybe this is a glamor

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact Julie is Ernest borg nine. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>get that. This scene where it's it's Ernest borg nine

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<v Speaker 1>that is hugging Tom Scarrett's character, and he gives us

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<v Speaker 1>this evil grin, and then we cut to that screen

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<v Speaker 1>on the Devil's reigin that object, that urn or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and who's trapped in there in the rain realm?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's screaming? But Julie and is the credits roll. She

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<v Speaker 1>like keeps screaming, and then there's this like really haunting

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<v Speaker 1>moment where she stops and she's just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>staring out through the screen at us the viewer, and uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a creepy moment. Okay, do we need

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<v Speaker 1>to do a dump of lore related questions here because

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<v Speaker 1>we still don't know exactly what is the deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the Devil's Reigin. Oh there's so many questions. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what what's with the Why does your body become wax? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we do see some sort of like burning of wax affig,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess there's some sort of loose connection there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know why your body becomes wax. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why you don't have eyes. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why we call this artifact the Devil's Rain. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that the rain that melts waxy satanists. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>the devil's reign as well? Or is this like the

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<v Speaker 1>divine rain? I'm not sure? And then even like Devil's ragin,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean? I was like doing some searches,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found some just off allusions to the devil's

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<v Speaker 1>reign and some pre existing literature like once and some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of religious poem and maybe as a turn of phrase,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like a really heavy rain. So but but

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that where I was like, oh, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>clearly what one should infer from the words the Devil's ragin.

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<v Speaker 1>So the devil's reign is the orb that has the

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<v Speaker 1>soul TV inside it, and when they smash it, it

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly starts raining from the sky. So like the orb

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<v Speaker 1>is not literally rain, there is literal rain, but nobody

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<v Speaker 1>evercalls that the devil's rain, and that rain melts the

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<v Speaker 1>devil's devotees, right, which of course doesn't. Also it also

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense why would rain melt wax? Rain doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>melt wax. Rain, if anything, should solidifyt wax. That's melting.

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<v Speaker 1>And again they already have liquid wax in them, which

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<v Speaker 1>you see when they are shot. So that's right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a complete dream logic. Why did the dude at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning melt the house? If Steve shows up at the

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<v Speaker 1>house and he's just melting like they hadn't smashed the

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's Rain, the object at that point, oh I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of is like it's the ultimate Melt movie and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to give him a taste of what they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stick around for if they've watched the full film,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think some of the trailer, I think even

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer we listen to, they're like, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>see the finale to this picture. Don't leave this one early.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can come late, but don't leave early. Okay, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>If I give you the job of being the cannon

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<v Speaker 1>master of the Devil's you are now the sole editor

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<v Speaker 1>of the Devil's Reign. Wikia, can you make sense to

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<v Speaker 1>try to just spell out the lore for me? How

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<v Speaker 1>does the Devil's Reign work? I mean, as best I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell is you know we went through the part

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<v Speaker 1>already where I guess you know Satan has a deal

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Plage your soul to him, get those earthly delights,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Corbus will take you to the hell. But

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred years ago, the Coltists say, okay, well, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had the earthly delights, we don't want to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the hell. Let's just keep that magic book out of

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<v Speaker 1>Corbus's hands, and then he can't take us to the hell.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, you know, when we get the witch hunters

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<v Speaker 1>show up, things get disrupted, and then the Preston family

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<v Speaker 1>is able to make off with the book. So at

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<v Speaker 1>some point though Corbus is going to catch wind of

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<v Speaker 1>them again. He's i aided by eyelas wax servants while

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<v Speaker 1>the souls of these people are trapped inside that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of soul repository that we keep calling the Devil's Reign.

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<v Speaker 1>The Coltists make another go at keeping the book from Corbus.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately they end up having the opportunity to destroy the

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's Reign object and this causes Corbus and his followers

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<v Speaker 1>to melt in the rain. The actual weather event rain,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't completely work, as Corbus survives, takes on

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<v Speaker 1>the guys of Joan Preston, seduces Tom Scarrett's character, and

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<v Speaker 1>Joan winds up trapped in the Devil's Rain. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the search for the book continues, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody left to search for the book. The Preston

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<v Speaker 1>family is destroyed, but I don't know if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>to take anybody other than Joan to Hell at this point. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're mixing up the actress and the character's names.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Julie Preston, right, I'm sorry, Julie Preston? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe Julie is the only Preston that gets to

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<v Speaker 1>go to hell. Maybe everyone else got to escape their damnation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my best bet. That's all I got. Ultimately, though,

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<v Speaker 1>the real hero is parapsychology, esp and telepathy in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of doctor Richards. Here. Yeah, the doctor Richards survived

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<v Speaker 1>and probably published some papers on this, that's right. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh and and I don't know, maybe maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole sequel that never was out there in

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<v Speaker 1>which he studies, uh, the artifact the Devil's Rain. He'd like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, glues it back together again. Or I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was never destroyed because she's still stuck in it

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<v Speaker 1>proved the existence of the Devil's Rain once and for all. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't recommend trying to make sense of any

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<v Speaker 1>of this but um as just a in illogical nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventies weird satanic horror spectacle. Um, I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very engaging. I respect the way that the collar of

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Skerrett's shirt is on the outside of the collar

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<v Speaker 1>of his jacket. That's that that thumbs up from me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd love to hear from everyone out there. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have an analysis on what's happening in The Devil's Reign?

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