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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob

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Speaker 1: Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And today on Weird

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Speaker 1: House Cinema, we are going to be talking about the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five satanic cult melt movie The Devil's Rain,

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Speaker 1: a movie that I first saw, oh, I'd say, somewhere

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Speaker 1: between thirteen and fifteen years ago, and I didn't remember

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Speaker 1: much about it except there is a famous melting sequence

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Speaker 1: at the end of this movie, and my memory was

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Speaker 1: that it goes on and on and on and on,

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Speaker 1: and wow, was that impression ever validated by rewatching this.

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Speaker 1: This is like the godfather of melt movies. It is

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Speaker 1: quite a melt movie. If you are into film homes

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Speaker 1: that depict the generally unrealistic liquefacation of the flesh. The

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Speaker 1: most I guess famous mainstream example of this being either

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Speaker 1: The Wicked Witch of the West melting or All the

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Speaker 1: Nazis melting at the end of Raiders of the Lost Art,

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Speaker 1: both fine examples in their own right, but you can

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Speaker 1: definitely get deeper into the weeds. I do greatly enjoy

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Speaker 1: the Nazi melting in Raiders. But one difference I want

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Speaker 1: to point out is that in Raiders, it seems that

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Speaker 1: when like the SS agent melts and it melts like

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Speaker 1: a candle, they attempted to do that in some biologically

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Speaker 1: accurate color schemes, so he basically melts in like blood

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Speaker 1: and viscera kind of colors. The melting in this movie

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Speaker 1: is the full box of crayons. It's just whatever color

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Speaker 1: Everything's in there in this movie. And we may we'll

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Speaker 1: probably discuss this a bit more. We made to some

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Speaker 1: degree try to make sense of it, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think any real sense can be made of it. But

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Speaker 1: in this movie, if you are a devout Satan worshiper,

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Speaker 1: you get to exchange your fleshly body for a body

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Speaker 1: that is made of multi colored wax. Yeah, and like,

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Speaker 1: not only does solid wax veltle liquid wax, So if

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Speaker 1: you were shot with a gun, you will bleed multicolored wax.

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Speaker 1: If you were melted by rain of either divine or

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Speaker 1: infernal origin, I'm not sure which direction it actually is

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Speaker 1: going in. At any rate, it will melt you like

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Speaker 1: multi colored candles, and it's so yeah, they're not even

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Speaker 1: trying to make it seem like this is an actual

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Speaker 1: organic process. This is something psychedelic and weird and just

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Speaker 1: straight up nineteen seventies. You know, most movies that depict

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Speaker 1: people making a covenant with Satan depict more enticements. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you make a deal with the devil, you

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Speaker 1: get fame, power, pleasure, riches, all that stuff. In this movie,

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Speaker 1: in the way of power and riches and pleasure. It

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Speaker 1: seems like, well, you get to become made of wax.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't that sound great? Well, I think Corbus are our

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Speaker 1: cult leader. He he does in the flashback to three

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Speaker 1: hundred years ago. He's telling the other cultists in this

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, very pilgrimy setting. He's like, well,

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Speaker 1: got you got your earthly pleasures out of this, and

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Speaker 1: the arrangement. So it's implied they got to have some

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Speaker 1: sort of earthly pleasures, but I don't know they were.

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Speaker 1: There's a pretty stuffy looking lot, so it might have

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Speaker 1: been rather mundane by you know, three hundred years ago status.

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Speaker 1: These were not pleasures of the flash by nineteen seventy standards. No,

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Speaker 1: what what were the pleasures and power that enjoyed by

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Speaker 1: like Pilgrim William Shatner that that really earned him the

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Speaker 1: something probably. Also, I wanted to point out, so this

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Speaker 1: movie is notable for being a seventies cheeseball satanic cult movie,

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Speaker 1: but also for the melting sequences, but also for having

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Speaker 1: a moment. But one of the cast members is Tom Skarrett.

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Speaker 1: And I have to point out the Amazon Prime landing

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Speaker 1: picture of Tom Skarrett sort of gazing off into the

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Speaker 1: Anybody who wanted to see this because of the movie

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Speaker 1: satanism or the melting they've seen it. Now we just

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Speaker 1: want to sell people on like mid seventies Tom Scarett handsomeness. Okay,

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Speaker 1: an evil preacher? And then they're like, now that's two

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Speaker 1: not quite all powerful, that's right, but reasonably powerful, intimidatingly powerful.

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Speaker 1: So it seems to me like The Devil's Reign did

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Um, but yeah, it's It's also

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Speaker 1: or what's this about the Devil's Reign? And is this

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Speaker 1: what what what's this about an amulet? Now, where did

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Speaker 1: you can summon one? Okay, okay? For generations, the Preston

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Speaker 1: form of Ernest Borg nine. Finally, the satanic Borg has

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Speaker 1: liquefy the hooded minions of Beelzebub? Sounds pretty good? All right,

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Speaker 1: anything like The Devil's Reign. Yes, that wasn't your father?

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Speaker 1: Was his face? Mother? Mark Commas? Damn? They had no

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Speaker 1: faces the Devil's Reign. The three hundred year search for

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Speaker 1: streaming in nice quality, nice quality, but with questionable metadata. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get into the people who brought this

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Speaker 1: director Robert Fuest, who lived nineteen twenty seven through twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: British director noted for his stylish seventies approach to genre cinema.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy he had two films out, an adaptation

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Speaker 1: not just as camp. I think he can sometimes be

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00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: really great, but this movie is much more of a

425
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: showcase of his camp side, and in my opinion, his

426
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: performance is very funny. Yeah. I'm not a huge Shatner fan,

427
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: but I would say I will say that I did

428
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: enjoy him in this. I don't know, I don't know

429
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: if it's something about him playing kind of a failed

430
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: hero and kind of a Satanic weasel. You know, there's

431
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: this outer strength and bluster to the character, but ultimately

432
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: there's this inner weakness in how in hollowness that ends

433
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: up kind of devouring him. So I don't know, it

434
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: felt maybe it just felt enough against type with this

435
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: character that I enjoyed him more. Hard to say. I

436
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: don't know if this makes any sense, but you really

437
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: it just comes through that he's really enjoying his shirtless

438
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: torture scenes with the Satanic Cold. He does have a

439
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: lot of shirtless torture scenes in this, but I feel

440
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: like any fan of Star Trek should also watch The

441
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: Devil's Right. You've seen Shatner from both sides now, and

442
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: so you understand from up and down. All right, let's

443
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: let's mention some other folks here. Keenan Wynn plays Sheriff Owens.

444
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: Not a major character, but he pops up here and there.

445
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: He's the sheriff. He's the authority figure that ultimately doesn't

446
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: pull through Live nineteen sixteen through nineteen eighty six American

447
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: actor with tons of credits across the forty fifty sixty, seventies,

448
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: and eighties. He voiced Captain Culley in nineteen eighty two

449
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: Is the Last Unicorn, and he played Colonel bat Guano

450
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four's Doctor Strange Love, among many other roles.

451
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to answer to the Coca Cola company.

452
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: Let's see Tom Scarrett. We already mentioned he plays Tom Preston.

453
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: This is Foot Shatner's brother, right, Yes, I think so that.

454
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if they made that fully clear, but yes,

455
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: he yeah, yeah, he's the brother. What else could he be?

456
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: He's he's not William Shatner's father. There is a family

457
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: photo that I guess kind of establishes things early on.

458
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: But yes. Scarrett was born nineteen thirty three, TV and

459
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: film actor with credits going back to sixty two. But

460
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: I imagine for many of you, Hey, he's Dallas from

461
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy Nine's Alien, He's Viper from nineteen eighty six

462
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: is Top Gun. He also had roles in ninety sevens

463
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: contact eighty nine Steel Magnolia's other credits include Harold and Maud,

464
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: The Dead Zone, Mash Poulter Geys three, and Hey, the

465
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Christopher Lambert Chess movie Night Moves. So Scarrett is in

466
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: a way the hero of this movie, I would say he's,

467
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's like the other guy there who defeats

468
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: the cult at the end, alongside Eddie Albert. Nevertheless, I'd

469
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: say his part does not have much to it. He

470
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: does what is required of him. He's ruggedly handsome in

471
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: that seventies way. He throws a good punch. But I

472
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: think from what I recall, he actually has rather few lines.

473
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: It seems like he's not a very dialogue oriented character. Yeah,

474
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's more action. He's kind of this

475
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: rugged Western kind of a hero. I guess it's funny

476
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: seeing him in a role like this because I know

477
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: Tom Scarrett actually did a lot. You know, he's a

478
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: big star in his day. But for some reason, I

479
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: primarily associate him with Space, because like the main movies

480
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: I love with him in there are Alien, where he's

481
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: Dallas who's doomed, and in Contact, where he plays a

482
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: sort of the bureaucratically entangled scientist who you know, knows

483
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: how to play politics, whereas Ellie Airway does not. And

484
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: I think he's also doomed in Contact. So like he's

485
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: the guy who goes to die in Space. Yeah, so

486
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: in a way, it's It's kind of odd that Shatner

487
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: and Scarrett don't have their roles reversed here, because yeah, interesting,

488
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: it could be more doomed if he had, if he

489
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: had to play the other brother all right now playing

490
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: his character's wife, right, playing Julie Preston. He is the

491
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: actor Joan Prather Boor nineteen fifty. She was only active

492
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: from I think seventy two through eighty nine. In addition

493
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: to some TV roles, he appeared in the single Girls

494
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: from seventy four, Big Bad Mama from seventy four, Smile

495
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: from seventy five, Rabbit Tests from seventy eight, and Take

496
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: This Job and Shove It from eighty one. Allegedly, she

497
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: introduced one of her co stars on this picture to scientology,

498
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: that co star being John Travolta. Okay, so we can

499
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: get to John Travolta in the second. But I'm gonna

500
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: say I don't want to be mean, but Joan Prother

501
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: feels to me like she is on another planet in

502
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: the I don't know if her character is. Maybe it

503
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: makes sense because she's a character who like has psychic

504
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: visions and esp but she seems like she's in a

505
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: trance almost the whole time, not very present. Yeah, and

506
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: then there's this she does have, I think, an effective

507
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: screen presence of like um of great distress at times,

508
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: especially in the final moments of the film. There's a

509
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: real dark charisma to her that I think works and

510
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: leaves leaves you on an unsettling note as you leave

511
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: the theater. Yeah. But okay, So you brought up John Travolta.

512
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: I knew he was in this movie, and I was

513
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: looking out for him while I was watching it, and

514
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: I didn't catch him. I was like, where was John Travolta.

515
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: Thinking back on it and and watching some parts the

516
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: second time, I think maybe he's a guy that he's

517
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: the guy that Joan Prather and Tom Scarrett fight in

518
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah. I think by the time we encounter him,

519
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: he's already cultified, right, right, So he's got mask face,

520
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: so he's not as clearly recognizable as as Travolta. Yeah.

521
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I think I read that after Travolta rose to fame,

522
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: they like they cut a scene back in that had

523
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: had some uncultified John Travolta not to try and capitalize

524
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: on it. But that's not present in the cut that

525
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: we watch. So I can't speak to it, bummer, But yeah,

526
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: John Travolta playing Danny doesn't even have a last name, Trala.

527
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: Is it Zuko? No, that's his character from Grease. He's

528
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: got the same first name though, Danny Zuka. Okay. Anyway,

529
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: Travolta was born fifty four, and at this point in

530
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: his career, Yeah, he was super young. He'd done some

531
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: bit TV roles before, but this was his first film.

532
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: He'd of course followed this up with some big hits.

533
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: He did carry in seventy six Saturday Night Fever and

534
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: seventy seven Grease and seventy eight Urban Cowboy and eighties

535
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: Staying Alive in eighty three. Of course, his career took

536
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: a went on a noticeable slump after this, but then

537
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: he came back big and ninety four's pull Fiction and

538
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: was back on top of everything for the rest of

539
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: the decade. Really, for our purposes, I guess we have

540
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: to mention ninety seven Face Off being ultimately a pretty

541
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: weird film, and then of course there's Year two thousand,

542
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: magnum Opus Battlefield Earth. I think Face Off is a classic.

543
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: One thing is people, Okay, so it is an action movie,

544
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: and I think It is primarily remembered as an action

545
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: movie with you know, the sort of slow motion gunfight

546
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: scenes and stuff, but people forget how strange the science

547
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: fiction premise of that movie is. There's like a prison

548
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the ocean, and there's face transplants

549
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: and all that. It's like a profoundly odd film Battlefield Earth.

550
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what you can even say about that.

551
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: You've got to get some man animals in here to

552
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: fix this. All right, Let's see who else do we

553
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: need to talk about here? Um, we have a character

554
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: named John that shows up. He's like the dottering old

555
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: old man that just talks about it. It came here

556
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: and they didn't have faces and melting yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

557
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: a fun roll character like this in a cult supernatural film.

558
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: But this is played by Woodrow Chamblis, who lived nineteen

559
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: fourteen from nineteen eighty one. Mostly a TV actor, but

560
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: he was also in the nineteen seventy desert horror film

561
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: Gargoyles from seventy two. You know, I haven't seen it,

562
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: but I've been interested in checking out Gargoyles for Weirdhouse.

563
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: So it's a nineteen seventy two made for TV. Monster

564
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: movie with creature effects by Stan Winston starring Bernie Casey. Yeah,

565
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: it's I haven't seen it forever. It's a film that

566
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: when I see a clip from it, I don't know.

567
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: I think it's a film that I caught on Sci

568
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: Fi or maybe A and E God help us back

569
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: in the day. That it's a film that if I

570
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: see a clip from it, it makes me feel like

571
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm watching TV indoors on a nice Sunday afternoon and

572
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: I should really be outdoors. Yeah, yeah, I know what

573
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: you mean. Yeah, but yeah, maybe it requires some revisiting.

574
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: I recall some fabulous full body guar will shots suits

575
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: that are shot just in like full light. Sorry, I

576
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: was looking up because I was trying to remember who

577
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: else was the actor I knew who was in it.

578
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: Scott Glenn is also something. As I said, I haven't

579
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: seen it, but yeah, Bernie Casey plays a gargoyle apparently,

580
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: and Scott Glenn's in there somewhere all right. Speaking of

581
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: in there somewhere, we also have Claudio Brook in this

582
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: picture playing a preacher. He's essentially a witch hunting preacher

583
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: who burns the Satanist three hundred years ago in a flashback.

584
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: That's right, a stern witch finder we can all look

585
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: up to, except he betrays our our main character's ancestors.

586
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, if we bring you the Satanic cult,

587
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: you'll spare us, right, And he's like sure, and then

588
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: they do. He goes back on his word. He's like, well,

589
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: I'll spare you as far as like you can go

590
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: to heaven, but I still have to burn your bodies. Yeah,

591
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: your bodies did a lot of bad things, like wearing

592
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: those shorts, so you're you're going up in flames exactly.

593
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: So you never never trust a guy who has a

594
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: Heinrich Kramer test too. Claudio Brook, who I think I've mentioned,

595
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: even though we haven't talked about a Claudio Brook film before.

596
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Fantastic Mexican actor with varied credits extended back through the

597
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: mid nineteen fifties. His credits range from art films and

598
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: serious dramas to El Santo pictures and bizarre horror films.

599
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: You know, we'll come back to him again some day

600
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: he would. After this, though, he would go on to

601
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: star in the notable Mexican satanic film Alucarda from nineteen

602
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: seventy seven, Dracula backwards. Yeah, oh well, maybe it is

603
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: a Dracula. Yeah, this is not the only film that

604
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: has used Alucard as Dracula spelled backwards. In fact, wasn't

605
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: the undercover vampire in the flashback in Santo in the

606
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: Treasure of Dracula called Count Alucard? Am I wrong about that? Yeah?

607
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: I believe you're right on this. Now. I haven't seen

608
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: Alucarda yet. It's on my list because it's it's held up.

609
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a very good possession film. I

610
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: don't think it actually has anything to do with with vampires,

611
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: so I don't know more of a satanic movie than

612
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: it is a vamp movie. So one thing I read

613
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: about this movie I think this might have even been

614
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: on this Wikipedia page, is that some writers somewhere pointed

615
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: out that this is really a cult movie because it's

616
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: about a cult. It's a cult movie in the colloquial sense,

617
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, it has a you know, sort of ironic following,

618
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: but also involved an actual cult leader. I don't I

619
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a correct way to categorize what

620
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: Anton LaVey was. But Anton LaVey was involved in making

621
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: this movie. Yes, he has a credit as playing a

622
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: high priest. You see him in a golden goat helmet,

623
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: and then he was also a technical advisor to like

624
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: tell them how Satanic magic actually works. Yes, this is

625
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: the way made up Satanic magic works. Allow me to

626
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: show you so. Anton LaVey lived nineteen thirty through nineteen

627
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: ninety seven. He was the then High Priest of the

628
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: Church of Satan and then an also author of the

629
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: Satanic Bible and some other books. I'd say, you know,

630
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: an interesting cultural figure, a born showman with a knack

631
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: of keyboards. I suppose we're yeah to infer that he

632
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: advised the director on some of the finer points of

633
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: fake Satan worship in this and I believes his wife

634
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: at the time is also in the picture in the

635
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: background as part of the main Satanic sequences. He was

636
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: also an advisor on nineteen seventy four's Lucifer's Women, nineteen

637
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: seventy seven's The Car, in which James Brolin battles the

638
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: Satanic Car, nineteen eighty three's Doctor Dracula with John Carradine,

639
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: and nineteen eighty nine's Charles Manson Superstar. Apparently he had

640
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: no involvement with nineteen sixty eight Rosemary's Baby, despite rumors

641
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: to the country. You know, I don't know much about

642
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: Anton LaVey, but I maybe I'm wrong. I thought his

643
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: version of Satanism was not one that like believed in

644
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: in actual like the magical, like a sea of rituals

645
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: or anything. So I'm a little confused about what the

646
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: technical advising role would be here. Yeah, I don't. I

647
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: don't think this film is a really an accurate depiction

648
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: of Lavayan Satanism or anything. But you know, maybe it

649
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: was just more a situation where he's like, Hey, I

650
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: hear you're making a Satanist movie. Don't you think you

651
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: should hire somebody like me to hang out on set

652
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: and advise you on a couple of things. I can

653
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: loan you some costumes. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's as simple

654
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: as that. I've got all these ropes, all right, But

655
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: this is a melt movie, and you can't talk about

656
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: a melt movie without talking a little bit about the

657
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: special makeup effects. And that's where Ellis Burman Junior aka

658
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: Sonny Burman comes into play here. He lived nineteen thirty

659
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: five through twenty twenty. Again, this movie is all about

660
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: wax based Satanists spurting wax and melting in big puddles

661
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: of wax, and the lead on all of this was

662
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: Ellis Burman Junior. I've read that they were having to

663
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: basically invent ways to do all these effects on the fly,

664
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: but they also had days upon day is to produce them,

665
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: which is why I guess we have so much compelling

666
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: footage of people melting, and yeah, the end results are

667
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: pretty mesmerizing. Burman's previous work included nineteen seventies Beneath the

668
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes, in nineteen seventy two Scargoyles, okay,

669
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: and and I do have to trust that. I think

670
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: it's my understanding that the work of people like Burman

671
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily completely reflected in like IMDb credits. A lot

672
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: of times they're on crews for stuff and they're just

673
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: not they're not credited for what they did. But he

674
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: definitely followed this up with work on nineteen seventy six

675
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Is The Man Who Fell to Earth and Return of

676
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: a Man called Horse, seventy seven's Empire of the Ants

677
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: and Close Encounters of the Third Kind seventy eights, Matilda,

678
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: which is a boxing kangaroo movie starring Elliott Gould. Last

679
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: time I checked, you could stream that via the Criterion Channel. Wait,

680
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: I just really Empire of the Ants. That's Burt Eye Gordon. Yeah, yeah,

681
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: so we got a mister big connection here. Seven nine, Prophecy,

682
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: The Bear Movie eighty three, Space Hunter eighty four star Man.

683
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: He did the He was involved in the sloth makeup

684
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: for nineteen eighty five's The Goonies, and he also worked

685
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: on nineteen eighty five's Howling Too and Oh and then

686
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: as far as Trek goes, he worked on Star Trek's five,

687
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: First Contact Insurrection, fifty episodes of Deep Space nine, Voyager, Enterprise,

688
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: and Nemesis A Star Trek five. That's all you need

689
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: to know. According to its not fair. I'm sorry, I

690
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. Ellis Burman Junior,

691
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: which one's five again? Five is the really bad one,

692
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: the one where like they meet what is I think

693
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: they meet Spok's half brother and he's like and he's like,

694
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: you know, Spok is all logic and his half brother

695
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: is all emotion, and he's this like empathic cult leader

696
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: essentially who who you know, gets people to connect to

697
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: their pain. And he's like give me your pain, and

698
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Shatner has a great monologue and it's not actually great,

699
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: where he's like, by need my pain, I won't give

700
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: you my pain. Our pain makes us who we are.

701
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: And then at the end they go to a place

702
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: in the middle of the galaxy where God lives essentially,

703
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: but then it's not really God. It's like the Wizard

704
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: of Oz and it's revealed to just be some kind

705
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: of alien. They blast him. Yeah, all right, okay, one

706
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: that one does ring a bell. Now, it's not good.

707
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: It's widely considered one of the worst Star Trek movies.

708
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: But like you said, we can't we can't blame Berman

709
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: for this. According to his obit, his company Cosmic Kinetics,

710
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: also was involved in building the Terminator robot for the

711
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: Terminator and the creation of alf all right. And then finally,

712
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: the music credit here goes to al de Lori, who

713
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: lived nineteen thirty through twenty twelve. I thought the music

714
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: in this film was quite effective. Kind of a general

715
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: ambiance of weird, unsettling instrumental drift and occasional cacophony that's

716
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: kind of fitting for that nineteen seventies nigh gallery vibe

717
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: m Albalai was a sessions keyboardist who worked mostly in pop, surf, rock,

718
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: and country. He was also a Grammy Award winning producer

719
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: who produced a number of non satanic hits for Glenn

720
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: Campbell in the nineteen sixties, including Gentle on My Mind,

721
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: By the Time I Get to Phoenix, Wichita, Lineman, and Galveston.

722
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: He was a sessions musician on The Beach Boys Pet

723
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Sounds in sixty six. Yeah, and then he also did

724
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: this score. He has I think eleven composition credits on IMDb.

725
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: But this is really the only film that stands out

726
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: certainly to me, And as far as I know, this

727
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: soundtrack has never been released as a as an album

728
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: in any format. Hey, some boutique reissuer put it put

729
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: this out on vinyl. Oh yeah, I mean the melty

730
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: effects in this film. There's so many great directions you

731
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: could go with that vinyl. Yeah, all right, we ready

732
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: you talk about the plot. Let's do it so it

733
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: begins with a bunch of you know, infernal whaling that

734
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: it kind of sounds like the Siberian Well to Hell

735
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: hoax tape. I think I've made that comparison on this

736
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: show before. About as general audio montages of whaling. But

737
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: then we fade to bosh and we start seeing scenes

738
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: from the triptych of the Last Judgment, so, you know,

739
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: a little hellish vignettes. There's a general survey of unpleasant

740
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: imagery from paintings. You get birdmen with black eyes and

741
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: cauldrons for helmets eating naked sinners along with you know more.

742
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: You know now, that's what I call moaning and lamentations

743
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: and people screaming let me out of here, and so forth.

744
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: And then the actual action opens with an image of

745
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: a crucifix. There's a painted wooden Christ hanging from the cross,

746
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: and the shadow of a human hand cast across the figure,

747
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: and then the sound of a rolling storm in the background,

748
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: with rain and heavy thunder, and we reveal a woman

749
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: looking nervously out of window into the night as the

750
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: rain pours down. And this is Missus Preston, played by

751
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: Ida Lupino. She clearly has tattered nerves. She's something is

752
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: worrying her greatly, and a man named John brings her

753
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: some tea, but she spills it. She's she's so frazzled John,

754
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: Did you take John here to be like their butler?

755
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: Sort of he wasn't dressed like a butler, and a

756
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: Victorian said, I don't know what he was. He just

757
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: brought them tea. Yeah, this is the old man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

758
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um yeah, because he's not her husband,

759
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: because we're about to meet him. So yeah, he's just

760
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know if he's supposed to be

761
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: an uncle or what. Oh maybe he's an uncle. Yeah, Okay,

762
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't know he's I don't know. He's some guy.

763
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: They just call him John. Finally, somebody arrives at the

764
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: door and it is Ida Lupino's son Mark, played by

765
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: none other than William Shatner. So he comes in from

766
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: out of the rain. As we alluded to earlier, this

767
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: movie really throws you right into the middle of the

768
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: action with no explanation. And I could explain with hindsight

769
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: of having seen the rest of the movie what happens

770
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: in this scene, but I think if I did, it

771
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: would not really capture the level of randomness and confusion

772
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: you feel as a first time viewer. So I kind

773
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: of want to do a little beat by beat here,

774
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: all right, So Shatner comes in the door, Missus Preston

775
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: greets him with relief, she calls him Mark. She says well,

776
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: Mark says, no sign of him, odd inflection, like was

777
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: their sign of somebody else or the truck. Shatner says,

778
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: I got as far as Simpson's bridge, or what's left

779
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: of it. The river's about swept it away, and missus

780
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Preston says he couldn't have just disappeared. He couldn't, and

781
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: Shatner says he probably pulled off someplace to wade out

782
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: the storm. And Shatner lifts the telephone from the hook

783
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: and he says, gazing off into the distance ponderously and

784
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: with surprise, it's still dead. Missus Preston says, I know.

785
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: Shatner says the winds knocked the lines down, and missus

786
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: Preston says, I don't think so, and they start to argue.

787
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: So Mark says it's just the storm, and she insists, no,

788
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: it's my dream night after night. It always starts the

789
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: same way. It starts with a storm and then your father.

790
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: But Mark cuts her off. He doesn't want to hear this,

791
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: He's heard it a thousand times. He insists that father

792
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: is all right. He says, there's you know, there's no

793
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: way he got turned into a weird makeup effect. And

794
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: then the dog starts barking outside, so they go outside.

795
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: John says someone's here, and they all go to look,

796
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: and then a guy staggers in through the rain, his

797
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: shirts torn open with frankly hilarious makeup. His eyes have

798
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: been like the area around his eyes has been replaced

799
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: with a rubber mask that has sort of blended in

800
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: to his skin, with makeup around that, and his eyes

801
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: are hollow, like there are not eyeballs in them. There's

802
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: like sort of black cloth behind his eyelids. I think

803
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: when I first saw this, it seemed like we were

804
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: supposed to understand that he had been tortured or mutilated

805
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: or something. But looking back on it now, I think

806
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: maybe it's just that he has been mask faced by

807
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: the coult. Yeah. I have to say I like the

808
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: the the effect they did with their like weird waxy

809
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: faces and no eyes, with this kind of like red

810
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: swelling around where the eyes used to be. Um. I mean,

811
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: it's an obvious makeup effect, but it also it made

812
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: me think about how well nowadays and certainly for decades now,

813
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: the go to for this effect. He has put some

814
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: black contacts in those eyeballs, right, and uh, and you

815
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: know that can look really good, but it's also been

816
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: so done to death, like it's it's done in so

817
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: many movies of varying budgets. It's done by just teenagers

818
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: at the mall, so it's it's it's kind of lost

819
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot of its impact. So it's kind of neat

820
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: to see something that goes in a different direction. I

821
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: guess before those contacts were available. I'll take that. I'll

822
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: take that, okay, So uh, Shatner says, Dad, and miss

823
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: Preston says Steve, and the guy staggering in says the

824
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: book Corbus, and missus Preston says, oh God help us,

825
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: and Mark says where is Corbus? And boy, I hope

826
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: you like the word Corbus, because you're going to hear

827
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: people say it about six thousand times, and especially Shatner

828
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: will just punctuate every line he says with Corbus, and

829
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: especially since it's one of those it's like a kind

830
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: of a funny sounding name. It doesn't necessarily it might

831
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: be a real name, but it doesn't sound like a

832
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: real name. It sounds like the kind of name people

833
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: make up for for a fictional story without checking to

834
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: see if anybody's actually named that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, or

835
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: something made up on the fly, and the Dungeons and

836
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: Dragon session like maybe they originally named this character Corbus.

837
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: And then they're like, I don't know, it sounds too

838
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: too bird like and he's a goat. Yeah, now that

839
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: I say, I'm sure Corpus is a real name. I

840
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: don't know. It just it just doesn't have that feeling.

841
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: But okay, so you know where is Corbus? So very

842
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: very dramatic inquiry by William Shatner here and Steve the

843
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: mask faced man says the desert redstone. He's waiting for

844
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: the book. Give Corbus what belongs to him, and then

845
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: he collapses on the ground and starts to melt, and

846
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: Missus Preston says, don't go near him, don't touch him.

847
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: But he's like, I don't even know how to describe this.

848
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: He looks like he's covered in melting wax crayon tumors. Yeah,

849
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's gross and and it's certainly surreal, but

850
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: also feels it doesn't it doesn't. Yeah, like you say,

851
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: it's not. They're not going for a realistic biological melting here,

852
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: this is something else going on, and so it hits

853
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: all the right notes. It doesn't. It's not one of

854
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: the things where you watch it and you're like, ah,

855
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: this is this is fake. I mean, you know it's

856
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: not real. It's easy to suspend disbelief, but it's it's

857
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: very gross. There's a strong element of body hartor here.

858
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: So the melting Steve starts talking in Latin and Miss

859
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: Preston repeats him. He's saying in nominee satanis in the

860
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: name of Satan. That wasn't your father And they argue

861
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: about this shatters like it was his face. It was

862
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: his clothes, but was it his face. We'll never find out.

863
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: We never will find out, that's right. So Miss Preston says,

864
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: the book, the book, don't you see my dream? It

865
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: was a warning they found us. So again, this is

866
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: the kind of like thrown into the middle of equality

867
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: that makes me think this is like an anthology TV episode,

868
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the cold open on Ones, the

869
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: teaser to be like, what is going on and hopefully

870
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: it will be explained later, Yeah, but it won't, not

871
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: to any compartially. It will be partially explained. Yeah, so

872
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: everybody goes inside, We're treated to a long shot of

873
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: the rain splattering upon the puddle of green and blue

874
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: goop that was once Steve Eve and man, they are

875
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: really banking on you enjoying looking at this. Because I

876
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: went back and timed it. The shot of the goop

877
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: is seventeen seconds long. Yeah, they really milk there with

878
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: their wax goop shots in this picture. I think Fulchi

879
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: would would approved. I think he would. He would say,

880
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: good notes on this. You should definitely let the camera

881
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: linger over the gross things. Oh yes, the fulchy ethos

882
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: is oh, oh is this? Is this a part of

883
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: the body that's usually on the inside, but now it's

884
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: on the outside. Let's get a look at that. Okay,

885
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: So inside they arguing. The confusing arguing continues again. The

886
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: viewer is like, has no idea, what's going on? Miss

887
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: Preston says Corbus, has your father? I tell you it

888
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: wasn't him, Mark, it wasn't him. And so the melting

889
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: man had said Corbus was in Redstone, and they explained

890
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: this is the old mining town, a god forsaken place.

891
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: And then missus Preston pries up a loose brick from

892
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: the floor and reveals a secret compartment from which she

893
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: removes an old book, and then she gives it to Shatner.

894
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: She begs him to take the book to Corbus, and

895
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: Shatner refuses. He says, I won't give the Devil's man

896
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: what he wants. And so they're, you know, they're like, well,

897
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: we gotta be we gotta do something. So Mark Shatner,

898
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: Mark the character, goes in. He gets a pistol out

899
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: of a drawer, and he says, I'll fight him on

900
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: my terms, not his. And then missus Preston says, she

901
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: like pulls out something. We can't even really see what

902
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: it is. It's sort of offscreen, but she's like holding

903
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: something in her hands, and she says, Corbus can't harm

904
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: you as long as you wear this amulet. What sounds

905
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: good though, he's being he's going on a quest, all right. Yes,

906
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: he has a gun. He needs a magical item as well.

907
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: Magical item, so she gives him an amulet. No explanation

908
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: of the amulet. Then somebody arrives in a truck outside.

909
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: Mark goes out to meet him, wearing a rain jacket

910
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: and a cowboy hat. So there's a shatterer in a

911
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: cowboy hat, and who is this supposed to be? I

912
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: think maybe it's supposed to be the father. But Mark goes,

913
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: he gets out to the truck and then he finds

914
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: a doll pinned to the steering wheels. So there's nobody

915
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: in the truck. It's just a creepy doll. Yeah, And

916
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: then there's like a scream from inside. Right. This is

917
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: one of the at least a couple of moments in

918
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: the film where unseen cultists are just totally rolling high

919
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: with their dexterity checks, with their stealth checks, because they

920
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: can just move around unseen. They're like the Dwarfs and Phantasm. Yes,

921
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: by the time you know they were there, they've already

922
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: like blown up a car or something exactly right. So

923
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: he hears commotion back at the house and he runs

924
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: back in. He finds John hanging upside down from the ceiling.

925
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: He's not dead, he's still like he cuts him down,

926
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: but he's somehow they got him hanging upside down from

927
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: the ceiling. The house is fully ransacked, his mother is missing.

928
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: All in a matter of what seemed like about fifteen seconds,

929
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: Like we looked at the goop in the rain longer

930
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: than Chatner was outside, that's true. But the old man John,

931
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: he's he's sitting there recovering from his experience, and he

932
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: says they had no faces, no faces. And then I think,

933
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: I think what Shatner's character goes and make sure the

934
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: book is still in the in its hiding place, and yes, basically,

935
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, I'm going to continue my next

936
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: phase of the quest. That's right. So he goes on

937
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: the hunt for Corbus and we are treated here to

938
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: a good amount of padding scenes of him driving around

939
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: in the desert, standing next to the car and stuff,

940
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: and eventually he arrives at Redstone. This is a desert

941
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: ghost town with with an eerie New England style church building.

942
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: It's all boarded up from the outside. And Mark drives

943
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: up and he is greeted in the middle of the

944
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: town by a laconical cowboy played by Ernest Borgnine, and

945
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: there's there's initially almost a kind of um, you know,

946
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: gospel story kind of miracle at the water pump. So

947
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: Shatner is trying to work the water pumped it because

948
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: he's thirsty, I guess, and nothing comes out with dust

949
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: and then Ernest Borgnine walks over and he's like, hey there,

950
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: and he pumps the pump and it just gushes with water. Oh,

951
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: and then Shatner tastes the water, but he says it's

952
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 1: bitter and he spits it out. And then I wonder

953
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: if what you made of this? So he says it's bitter,

954
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: he spits it out. Then Borgnine says sweet way to

955
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: endo thirst though, isn't it? And I didn't understand what

956
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: this meant, Like was he saying I don't know the

957
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: water was bitter because it was poison and Borgnine is

958
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: praising the exquisite embrace of death. I just kind of

959
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: chalked it up to being like cowboy nothing dialogue, you

960
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: know that, it's just like, oh you're thirsty, cowboy, here

961
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, because the poison, that interpretation doesn't make

962
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: sense because next Chatterer does drink it. Now. I wasn't

963
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: sure if at this point Schattner's character knows who Corbus

964
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: is or knows that this is Corbus, like it was.

965
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: I found like this was a little bit vague, because

966
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: that's the thing. This is our evil cult leader and

967
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: his most human cowboy form. Yeah, so he I think

968
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: he does he knows there is a Corbus, but he

969
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: doesn't realize this is Corbus. He's like, I will speak

970
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: only to Corbus, and then Corbus says, I am Corpus,

971
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: speak to me, and he gets right down to business.

972
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: So Shatner wants his family back. He's like, give me

973
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: my mother and father, and borg nine says, did you

974
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: bring the book? And Shatner says, I'm not afraid of you. Corbus.

975
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: Corbus and mister you know, Corbus says, mister Preston, I'd

976
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: be very disappointed if you were. So they start kind

977
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: of posturing at each other, you know. Shatner is like,

978
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: you're evil and Corbus is like, let me show you

979
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: what I've put my faith in. And there's a great

980
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: moment like Shatner angles toward the camera and points his

981
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: finger out. He's pointing straight into the camera and he

982
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: says Corbus. He says, I'll face whatever you have behind

983
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: those doors, and I guess he's talking about the church,

984
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: he says, and I'll come out exactly as I went in. So,

985
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, after this kind of posturing, they eventually agree

986
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: on a trial, a test, a challenge. Mark will go

987
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: inside Corbus's boarded up church and face whatever's in there,

988
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: and it'll be a test of faith, Corbus's faith against

989
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: a Marks, which I suppose is mainline Christianity. And if

990
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Mark prevails, Corbus will release his mother and father. If

991
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: Corbus prevails, Mark will bring him the book. We don't again,

992
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: we don't know what this book is. It's just a book. Now.

993
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: Obviously it is really early in the picture. To just

994
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: go all in on a bat against the chief antagonist

995
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: does not bode well from Mark here where he's just like,

996
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it, let's go week. I think

997
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: we can end this picture in the first half hour.

998
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm putting my soul and everything on the line. Give me,

999
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: give me your worst board nine. You can imagine that

1000
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: the next forty five minutes are eating up with shots

1001
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: of them walking to the church. But anyway, so they

1002
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: go into the church, Okay, let's describe it. So it

1003
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: is a Satanic church. Is pew is full of figures

1004
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: in black hoods and robes and kind of an omega

1005
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: man ash. I don't know which movie came out first,

1006
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: but there are red and purple curtains, candles, a stone

1007
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: altar topped with an inverted cross and draped with cloth

1008
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: that says Reggie Satanas and it's got a big pentacle.

1009
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: The vibe is very incense books just weird, absolutely, but

1010
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: also there is there are illustrations, so like there is

1011
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: a big stained glass window, which okay, so this is

1012
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: a Satanic church with a stained glass window. They actually

1013
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: commissioned that. I'm gonna say the stained glass goat head

1014
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: needs some work. It does not look very scary. It

1015
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: looks like a sports mascot, like it could be the

1016
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls logo. It does. It does look a little

1017
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: sports mascotti, a little superhero ish and I don't know

1018
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: if the it's it's white too. Yeah, I'm not sure

1019
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: if that has that's maybe due to the like Lavayan

1020
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: Satanism influence like this, you know, sort of this idea

1021
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: of Satan Lucifer the light Bringer or something or if.

1022
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just some sort of quirk at design,

1023
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: but it stands out in a way that's maybe not

1024
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: completely great. But but I mean, the rest of the

1025
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: set looks really good though. I think it's a nice dark,

1026
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: atmospheric Satanic chapel, like if you were part of a

1027
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: Satanic couple looking to get married. This is a proper venue.

1028
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: I'd say, go for it, I guess. So, yeah, yeah,

1029
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: we commit ourselves to evil anew every day. And so

1030
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: oh they've even got a Satanic organ. I thought that

1031
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: was funny with the pipes and the nice Yeah. So

1032
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: Shatner goes in. You know, he's still got his magic

1033
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: amulet and his guns, so I think he's feeling confident.

1034
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: And Ernest borgnine comes out. He's changed out of his

1035
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: cowboy outfit into a cribson robe majestic Satanic regalia. And

1036
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, a long story short, they both start praying

1037
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: for Nine is praying to Satan, Shatner is praying to Jesus.

1038
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: And eventually, you know that it kind of like it

1039
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: comes to a to a peak, and Shatner gets freaked

1040
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: out because he sees his mother among the Devil's congregation

1041
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: and she has the mask face with the with the

1042
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: black eyes, and you know, she she's telling, you know,

1043
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: it's very joy in us. She says, you will know

1044
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: the peace of mind that I have found. And Shatner

1045
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: gets scared and he starts blasting with his gun. He

1046
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: shoots a cultist and multicolored goop comes out of him.

1047
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: It's like pink and Green Goop, and borg nine has

1048
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: a very actually great moment again, Ernest Borgnine is just,

1049
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, in a class above what this movie is.

1050
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: He has a great moment where he sort of scoffs

1051
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: at Shatner shooting the gun. He says, is that your faith?

1052
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: And Shatner runs outside. He still thinks the magical amulet

1053
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: will protect him, so he's holding it up and he says,

1054
01:01:54,880 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm still free. Corbus Corbus and borg nine He's even

1055
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: got away around this. Bourg Nine makes him hallucinate that

1056
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: the amulet is actually a snake wrapped around his neck,

1057
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: so Shatner willingly takes it off and throws it to

1058
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: the ground. Whoops. Yeah, and then just he sends in

1059
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: the cultists to grab him and hold him down. Yeah,

1060
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: he says, soon the family name of Preston will be

1061
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: no more. And then from here we cut to a

1062
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: different movie. Now we're in Scanners, though to be fair,

1063
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: this was before Scanners. Yeah, we have to go to

1064
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: the occult research facility at the nearest University I believe. Yeah,

1065
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't know where this what university is supposed to be,

1066
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's like an academic medical setting. And we

1067
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: see Joan Prather lying on a table and they say

1068
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: that she is consciously controlling the rate of her heartbeat.

1069
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: So I guess we should describe the new characters we

1070
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: meet in the scene. We meet Eddie Albert as doctor

1071
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: Sam Richards, we meet Tom Skarrett as doctor Tom Preston,

1072
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: and Joan Prather as Julie Preston. So they're like in

1073
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: a university auditorium. They're doing a demonstration of Julie's psychic powers,

1074
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: and there is a wonderful nonsense exchange. So the professor,

1075
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: Eddie Albert says, there is nothing subconscious that cannot be

1076
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: raised to the conscious level, and then a student goes,

1077
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: what about parapsychology telepathy. Professor says, yes, I include that

1078
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: extrasensory perception. And the student says, doctor Preston, isn't there

1079
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: a danger that these experiments could interfere with normal brain activity?

1080
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: And Tom Scritt says, no, no, no, We've studied many

1081
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: cases like this. There's no reason for concern. If there were,

1082
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: believe me, my wife would not be involved. So doctor

1083
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: Richard says, you know, you said, yeah, there's no danger,

1084
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: only discovery, and that they are finally on the verge

1085
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: of discovering quote the brain wave pattern that signifies esp activity,

1086
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: and so Julie's I don't know, she's controlling her heartbeat

1087
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: and stuff. And she starts reporting her experience. She says,

1088
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: it starts with a feeling of absolute calm, as if

1089
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: I were drifting into a perfect sleep. It sounds like

1090
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: she's kind of describing like a self hypnosis or something.

1091
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: And she goes on and mentions a few more things,

1092
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: and then eventually she starts seeing things. She says, a

1093
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: funny change takes place. There are images and sounds, and

1094
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: she sees the Chicago Bulls logo. You know it's it's

1095
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: the goat face on the stained glass. And then she

1096
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: sees shirtless William Shatner being tortured, and she sees people

1097
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: in robes with torches, and she sees Ernest borgnine in

1098
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: goat makeup, and she sees herself trapped behind glass being

1099
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: rained on, and she suddenly screams. She screams Tom, and

1100
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: then Tom Scarrett runs up to her and he says, Julie,

1101
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: something's happened to my family. I didn't understand this at all, Like,

1102
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: how does he know she's the one who's psychic and

1103
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: she hasn't told him yet. Yeah, this whole sequence is

1104
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: spawn because it's yeah, it's like, what's going on with her?

1105
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: How does he know it? The whole exchange that seems

1106
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: like she just has a general case of the paranormals

1107
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: and uh, and now she has been awakened some sort

1108
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: of insight into what's going on with the colt certainly

1109
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: access to scenes from the film that we haven't we

1110
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: haven't witnessed yet. Uh So now we have new characters

1111
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: in on the hunt. So we cut to the desert. Tom, Julie,

1112
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: and doctor Richards all go out to the desert to investigate. First,

1113
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: there is a scene with the sheriff played by bat

1114
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: Guano played by by Keenan Wynn, and uh, the Sheriff's

1115
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: basically like, sorry, I can't help you. There's been a

1116
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: storm and we're still rescuing hundreds of people and uh,

1117
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: your you know, your folks were probably just killed in

1118
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: the storm. There's no chance they were turned into wax

1119
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: by an evil culd. So the police are not helping,

1120
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: you know. The Preston's are on their They check at

1121
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: the house to hear the story of what happened from

1122
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: the old Man John. He describes the encounter from earlier,

1123
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: and then they find one clue on the ground. There

1124
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: is hardened wax out on the sidewalk. Yeah. Yeah, they

1125
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 1: just keep picking at it. Yeah, it's like, you don't

1126
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: know what that dripped from. Don't get your hands all

1127
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: over that. That's true. Yeah, So they go to Redstone. Oh, meanwhile,

1128
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: there is a There are scenes where William Shatner is

1129
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: being like sexy tortured by Ernest Borgnine. So he is

1130
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: shirtless and wrapped up in chains and borg Nine's taunting him, saying,

1131
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: tell me where the book is. You gambled and you lost,

1132
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: Give me the book. And then borg nine brings him, Oh,

1133
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: a vision of Lilith, the Queen of Delights, who's just

1134
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: like a lady, who comes and kisses William Shatner and

1135
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: then he's like, oh ha, it was actually your mother

1136
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: and she still doesn't have eyes. Tom Scarrett and Julie

1137
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: arrive in Redstone and they're looking around checking everything out.

1138
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: Seems deserted. They don't run into anybody at first. They

1139
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: go and investigate the Devil's Chapel and look all around

1140
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: in there, and then Finally, when they're back outside, they

1141
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 1: get attacked by a cult member in a speeding car,

1142
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: and there's a big chase and they run into a

1143
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: building and they fight and wrestle. I think this is

1144
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: John Travolta. Maybe, yeah, I think this is elis John

1145
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: Travolta that they encounter. So they beat up John Travolta,

1146
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: tie him up, and then then like Julie looks into

1147
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: his non eyes and this unlocks a long flashback. Yeah,

1148
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: this takes us back three hundred years and gives us

1149
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: the origin story of all this culting nonsense that's going on.

1150
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: So the short version is that Ernest borg nine Corbus

1151
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: once ran a Satanic cult in colonial New England, and

1152
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: one of his cult members betrayed him and stole a

1153
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: book in which they all wrote down the names of

1154
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: those who had pledged their souls to Satan, and Corbus

1155
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: wants the book back. He and there the sequence. There

1156
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: are a lot of very funny I don't know what

1157
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: felt like overuse of these, and thou was I'm not

1158
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: an expert on archaic grammars, so maybe they were being

1159
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: used correctly, but it felt weird. So borg nine is

1160
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 1: walking around this room full of people kind of cowering

1161
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 1: in fear, and he says, didst one of the fall

1162
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: from the favor of Lucifer. Yeah, so I get my

1163
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: loose understanding of all this is that he's the devil's man.

1164
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: He's maybe not even human. He brings satanic cultism to

1165
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: these various pilgrim folks. They get to enjoy the pleasures

1166
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: of the flash and so forth, and then he's like, Okay,

1167
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: now I'm going to take you to the Hell as

1168
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: per our original arrangement. And then at least some of

1169
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: the cult members were like, it would really be great

1170
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: to not do that. We'd rather not go to the hell.

1171
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: So why don't we just steal that book that he

1172
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: wrote our names in and then we can get buy

1173
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: in a technicality, Right then he won't remember which of

1174
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: us got the pleasures of the flesh, I guess, so

1175
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: he'll he just like can't recall who it was who

1176
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: wore shorts, or maybe he needs to produce documentary evidence too,

1177
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 1: Satan in order to fulfill this end of the bargain. Like,

1178
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, if you can't produce a copy of the contract,

1179
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: it might as well not exist. Yeah, and a lot

1180
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: lawful evil. Oh, and one of these, one of these

1181
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: ancient colonial times guys is William Shatner, And I guess

1182
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: this is h was Shatner. Martin Fife, the guy who

1183
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: borgnine keeps saying this name without explaining what it means. Yeah, Like,

1184
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: I guess it's one of these things where everyone we

1185
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: see here that's not Ernest borgnine, like their descendants, just

1186
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 1: happen to look like them, as this sometimes the case

1187
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: with movies and certainly with damned Bloodlines and so forth.

1188
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: And of course, as far as Williams, I mean, as

1189
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: far as Ernest Borgnine's Corbus is concerned, he's not really

1190
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: a human entity anyway, so he can come back later

1191
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: and look just like himself, no problem, right, So they

1192
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,520
Speaker 1: eventually revealed that I think it was. It was Aaronnessa,

1193
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: the wife of Martin Fife played by Shatner. She is

1194
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: the one who stole the book, and she has brought

1195
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: an angry pitchfork mob led by the Reverend Claudio Brook Yes,

1196
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: and they capture all the Satanists and burn them. And

1197
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: so they're they're burning Ernest bourg nine and he, oh,

1198
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: he's great in the scene, he's like on the stake laughing.

1199
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: He says, think ye, to destroy something stronger than life. Oh,

1200
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: and there is a moment where, unless I heard this wrong,

1201
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: I think Claudio Brooks says um. He says, you are

1202
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: condemned because of your hinneous crimes that you committed. But anyway,

1203
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: so oh oh this is also Martin Fife and Aranessa

1204
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: are betrayed by Claudio Brooks. So I think she had

1205
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: made a deal with him. She's like, hey, you know,

1206
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: I reveal the existence of the Satanic cult. I tell

1207
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: you who they are and where to find him. Uh

1208
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: and I and I hand over the book or I

1209
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: don't know, I take away the book. I don't know

1210
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: if she gave him the book but to reveal the

1211
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: cult and that her husband would be spared. And nope,

1212
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: Claudio brook goes back on his word. He's like, you're

1213
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: all gonna burn. Sorry, But I think Corbus sent a

1214
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: kid off through a secret passage way with the book

1215
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 1: or something. The book gets away and of course and

1216
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: becomes this whole plotline. Why did the Preston's have the book?

1217
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: I forget how did they end up with the book?

1218
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: Why doesn't Corbus have it? I think it's like the

1219
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: family secret, like, hey, guess what, our entire family line,

1220
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: our entire bloodline going back three hundred years, is actually damned.

1221
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: But as long as the forces of Satan don't get

1222
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: this book, then it's like we're not damned. So just

1223
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: make sure that nobody comes walking asking around for the book.

1224
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: Better put it beneath the floorboards. But physically, how did

1225
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: the Preston family end up with it? I think they do,

1226
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: maybe say in the movie, but I forgot what. I

1227
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: don't understand how that happened. I do not know. Okay,

1228
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 1: all right, so they've got the book for some and

1229
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 1: Corbus has wanted it back for hundreds of years. Finally

1230
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: he's got them, and he is going to sexy torture

1231
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: William Shatner until he gives him the book. And back

1232
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 1: in the present, so you know they've seen all this.

1233
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 1: So Tom Skirrett sends Julie off to h I don't

1234
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: know what, get the sheriff or something, and Tom goes back.

1235
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: So he's watching the procession of Satan's minions. They're like

1236
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: walking through the hills carrying torches. And now does he

1237
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: sneak in yet or is that later? No, this is

1238
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: where he sneaks in. He because, as we all know,

1239
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: to infiltrate any kind of cultic activity, all you need

1240
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: to do is put a robe on and nobody will notice. Right,

1241
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: he sneaks They don't notice that he still has eyeballs. Yeah,

1242
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: he kind of sneaks in with them to witness the

1243
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: Black Mass. And this is where we see Ernest borgnine

1244
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: in goat makeup. So he's got shaggy hair now and

1245
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: a billy goat beard and big old rams horns. Uh.

1246
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if they're rams horns, goat

1247
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: horns whatever, you know, horns and uh. And I don't know.

1248
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: Comments on good form, oh, just that you know it's

1249
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: it's a good look. I like the makeup effects, but

1250
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: you're just you're inhibiting Ernest borgnine's acting ability by covering

1251
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: up that expressive face of his even a little bit. Well,

1252
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 1: they bring out shirtless Shatner and he is transformed into

1253
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: another mask face. They give him the black cloth eyes,

1254
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: and so yeah, he's one of them now against his will.

1255
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: And I think we see Anton Lavay in the background

1256
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: in the scene. He's wearing like a gold helmet that

1257
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: actually looks a lot like the motorcycle helmets in Psychomania.

1258
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: It is reminiscent of that. We should also mention when

1259
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: we start seeing them the hat the eyeless Shatner here.

1260
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: This of course will remind some folks of the mask

1261
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: from Halloween, and at least there I don't think it's

1262
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: hard to really figure this out. I don't think ultimately

1263
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: that people making a case that that cast originates from

1264
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: this film, but I think that has been claimed in

1265
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: the past, So I'm not exactly sure what picture the

1266
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: Shatner cast comes from that ultimately becomes the Michael Myers mask,

1267
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: but at least some folks have pointed to this film

1268
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 1: as a possible origin point. Certainly, when you see Elis

1269
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: William Shatner his face turned into a flesh mask, it

1270
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: does bring to mind Michael Myers a little bit. That's

1271
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: a really good point, and I can see it there. Yeah. Anyway,

1272
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: for some reason, Tom Scarrett gets caught, maybe he sees

1273
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: his mother or something, but the big fight breaks out,

1274
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: he kind of has to blast his way out of there.

1275
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: He runs off and escapes. Meanwhile, Julie is captured by

1276
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: the cultists, and so the final act is the showdown.

1277
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: Tom goes back and meets with doctor Richards and they

1278
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: try to figure out what's going on. They've got the

1279
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: book now, and they're like looking, they're like reading the

1280
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: book and trying to figure out the lore, and they

1281
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 1: read things like I condemn thy soul to the Devil's reign.

1282
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: What is the devil's reign? Don't know yet? Yeah, and

1283
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: we might never know. We get some we get some

1284
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: additional evidence, but the jury is still out right. Well, okay,

1285
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: so let's get to the part with this. So they

1286
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: go back to the town and they go to the

1287
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: chapel Julie is being inducted into the cult out in

1288
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: the wilderness. They go into the chapel while it's empty,

1289
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: they find like a like a man hole to Hell

1290
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: in the chapel. Is that how you understood it? Yeah? Yeah,

1291
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: Basically they this is time Scarrets of Character has been

1292
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: here before and just like they didn't search anything at all.

1293
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: I guess this time they do uncover this weird well

1294
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: that I yeah, maybe goes to Hell, who knows. But

1295
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: in it it has this bizarre artifact that I guess

1296
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: looks like a ah, what is this like a large

1297
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: vase with a golden goat head on it. It's like

1298
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: an orb that contains a television and the show. There's

1299
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: like an oval screen that is showing you a TV show,

1300
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: and what's on the show is a bunch of people

1301
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: standing in the rain and screaming and saying let me out.

1302
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: And then on top of the TV, the orb shaped TV,

1303
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: there is a golden goat head. And then they refer

1304
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: to this the object as the Devil's rain. I'm guessing

1305
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: the best I can do is that if you become

1306
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: a Satanic cultist serving Corbus, your body becomes a wax

1307
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: body because your soul has left your real body and

1308
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: your soul is now in some sort of a rainy

1309
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: nether realm that is contained within this artifact, and it

1310
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: has a screen so people can like watch what's happening

1311
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 1: in that, so you can count and keep track of

1312
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: the souls that are inside it. I guess, yeah, okay, okay,

1313
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: So here's the yeah, the big showdown, so they find this.

1314
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: I think doctor Richards runs off with this artifact. I

1315
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: don't remember what he's planning to do with it, but

1316
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: there's a showdown in the church where Tom Scarrett confronts

1317
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: them and they're trying to rescue Julie, and there's a

1318
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: big fight, and in the end, the guy who saves

1319
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: the day is doctor Richards, the pseudoscientist here comes out

1320
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 1: and he's like, he's like, I've got the Devil's Rain

1321
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: and I defeat you, and he smashes it. Oh no, no,

1322
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: that's not how it goes down, okay, because he has

1323
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: it and he's like, I'll smash it. And then Carves

1324
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: is like, get that from this old fool, and so

1325
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: they grab it from him. The Shatner's character grabs it.

1326
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. But then the doc says, he's like,

1327
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: what Shatner's character's name. Mark. He's like, Mark, you don't

1328
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,919
Speaker 1: have to do this, Mark, you can end all this suffering.

1329
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: And somehow he gets through to the possessed Shatner and

1330
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,839
Speaker 1: he smashes it. And then that does I'm not exactly

1331
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: sure what. It releases their souls from the Devil's Rain

1332
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: the object and makes them susceptible to melting in the

1333
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: rain because it then starts to actually rain from the sky.

1334
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: And here we get to the most famous scene in

1335
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: the movie, the Great Melting, the final melt down. I

1336
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: think we need to do a whole little subsection here

1337
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: devoted to the final meltdown. So the cultists, it starts

1338
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: to rain when that happens, and the cultists all melt,

1339
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: and they melt and melt and melt and melt and

1340
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: melt and melt. And my memory from the last time

1341
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: I saw I saw this movie hold so strong and

1342
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: the melting is interminable in a way that took me

1343
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: through a whole series of reactions that went on. At first,

1344
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, this is weird, and I was

1345
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: greatly enjoying it. Then I started to get bored, Then

1346
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 1: I started to get annoyed. Then I came full circle

1347
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: and became just just in filled with respect and admiration

1348
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 1: for the relentlessness of the great melt. Yeah. I remember

1349
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: basically how everything goes down pacing wise, So I knew

1350
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: that once people started melting, this is what the film

1351
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: was now, Yeah, and that I should just roll with

1352
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: it and find enjoyment in it. And you know, to

1353
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: enjoy the various details of um, you know, of robed

1354
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 1: cultists melting out of their eyeballs, falling and then melting,

1355
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 1: more of of of goat headed corbus melting as he

1356
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: struggles with somebody there on the altarpiece. Yeah, there's Yeah,

1357
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: it's just melt. A melting masterpiece. If you like people

1358
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: melting in the multicolored goo, no other film will do

1359
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: it for you like this. Oh, and then there's there's

1360
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: sort of a stinger, right, so we think all the

1361
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: cultists melt, including Ernest borgnine. He melts. He kind of

1362
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: like retains his form somewhat as he melts, so he

1363
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: didn't just turn into goo. He like his face becomes

1364
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: huge and kind of stretches and stuff. Yeah, bulging eye

1365
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: looks very gross. And then kind of like topples over

1366
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: into the hell well and flames shoot up. So we're

1367
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: not we're sort of we think, Okay, I guess he's

1368
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: out of it. I think he's defeated. Oh, but then

1369
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: we see like a hand come back up. But then

1370
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: the church explodes, so maybe he is defeated after all.

1371
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: But then we at the end, Julie and Tom are

1372
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: hugging and it's like, oh, we've made it through. But

1373
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: then it's like revealed that maybe this is a glamor

1374
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: and in fact Julie is Ernest borg nine. Yeah, we

1375
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: get that. This scene where it's it's Ernest borg nine

1376
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: that is hugging Tom Scarrett's character, and he gives us

1377
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: this evil grin, and then we cut to that screen

1378
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: on the Devil's reigin that object, that urn or whatever

1379
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: it is, and who's trapped in there in the rain realm?

1380
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: Who's screaming? But Julie and is the credits roll. She

1381
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 1: like keeps screaming, and then there's this like really haunting

1382
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: moment where she stops and she's just kind of like

1383
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: staring out through the screen at us the viewer, and uh, yeah,

1384
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: it's a it's a creepy moment. Okay, do we need

1385
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: to do a dump of lore related questions here because

1386
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: we still don't know exactly what is the deal with

1387
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: the Devil's Reigin. Oh there's so many questions. I mean, yeah,

1388
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: what what's with the Why does your body become wax? Yeah,

1389
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,799
Speaker 1: we do see some sort of like burning of wax affig,

1390
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: so I guess there's some sort of loose connection there.

1391
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know why your body becomes wax. I

1392
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: don't know why you don't have eyes. I don't know

1393
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: why we call this artifact the Devil's Rain. I don't

1394
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: know that the rain that melts waxy satanists. Is this

1395
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: the devil's reign as well? Or is this like the

1396
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: divine rain? I'm not sure? And then even like Devil's ragin,

1397
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: what does that mean? I was like doing some searches,

1398
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 1: and I found some just off allusions to the devil's

1399
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: reign and some pre existing literature like once and some

1400
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: sort of religious poem and maybe as a turn of phrase,

1401
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: talking about like a really heavy rain. So but but

1402
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: nothing that where I was like, oh, well, this is

1403
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: clearly what one should infer from the words the Devil's ragin.

1404
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: So the devil's reign is the orb that has the

1405
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: soul TV inside it, and when they smash it, it

1406
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: suddenly starts raining from the sky. So like the orb

1407
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: is not literally rain, there is literal rain, but nobody

1408
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 1: evercalls that the devil's rain, and that rain melts the

1409
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: devil's devotees, right, which of course doesn't. Also it also

1410
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense why would rain melt wax? Rain doesn't

1411
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 1: melt wax. Rain, if anything, should solidifyt wax. That's melting.

1412
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: And again they already have liquid wax in them, which

1413
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: you see when they are shot. So that's right, it's

1414
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: a complete dream logic. Why did the dude at the

1415
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: beginning melt the house? If Steve shows up at the

1416
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: house and he's just melting like they hadn't smashed the

1417
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: Devil's Rain, the object at that point, oh I can

1418
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: think of is like it's the ultimate Melt movie and

1419
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: you want to give him a taste of what they're

1420
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: gonna stick around for if they've watched the full film,

1421
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: because I think some of the trailer, I think even

1422
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: the trailer we listen to, they're like, you've got to

1423
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: see the finale to this picture. Don't leave this one early.

1424
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: If you can come late, but don't leave early. Okay, Rob,

1425
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: If I give you the job of being the cannon

1426
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: master of the Devil's you are now the sole editor

1427
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: of the Devil's Reign. Wikia, can you make sense to

1428
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: try to just spell out the lore for me? How

1429
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: does the Devil's Reign work? I mean, as best I

1430
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: can tell is you know we went through the part

1431
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: already where I guess you know Satan has a deal

1432
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: for you. Plage your soul to him, get those earthly delights,

1433
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: and then Corbus will take you to the hell. But

1434
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: three hundred years ago, the Coltists say, okay, well, we've

1435
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: had the earthly delights, we don't want to go to

1436
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: the hell. Let's just keep that magic book out of

1437
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: Corbus's hands, and then he can't take us to the hell.

1438
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: But then, you know, when we get the witch hunters

1439
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: show up, things get disrupted, and then the Preston family

1440
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: is able to make off with the book. So at

1441
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: some point though Corbus is going to catch wind of

1442
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: them again. He's i aided by eyelas wax servants while

1443
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: the souls of these people are trapped inside that kind

1444
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: of soul repository that we keep calling the Devil's Reign.

1445
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: The Coltists make another go at keeping the book from Corbus.

1446
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: Ultimately they end up having the opportunity to destroy the

1447
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: Devil's Reign object and this causes Corbus and his followers

1448
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: to melt in the rain. The actual weather event rain,

1449
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: but it doesn't completely work, as Corbus survives, takes on

1450
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: the guys of Joan Preston, seduces Tom Scarrett's character, and

1451
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: Joan winds up trapped in the Devil's Rain. And then

1452
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: I guess the search for the book continues, or maybe

1453
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: there's nobody left to search for the book. The Preston

1454
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: family is destroyed, but I don't know if he gets

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Speaker 1: to take anybody other than Joan to Hell at this point. Wait,

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Speaker 1: I think you're mixing up the actress and the character's names.

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Speaker 1: Is Julie Preston, right, I'm sorry, Julie Preston? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so maybe Julie is the only Preston that gets to

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Speaker 1: go to hell. Maybe everyone else got to escape their damnation.

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Speaker 1: That's my best bet. That's all I got. Ultimately, though,

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Speaker 1: the real hero is parapsychology, esp and telepathy in the

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Speaker 1: form of doctor Richards. Here. Yeah, the doctor Richards survived

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Speaker 1: and probably published some papers on this, that's right. And

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Speaker 1: uh and and I don't know, maybe maybe there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a whole sequel that never was out there in

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Speaker 1: which he studies, uh, the artifact the Devil's Rain. He'd like,

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Speaker 1: you know, glues it back together again. Or I guess

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Speaker 1: it was never destroyed because she's still stuck in it

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Speaker 1: proved the existence of the Devil's Rain once and for all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I don't recommend trying to make sense of any

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Speaker 1: of this but um as just a in illogical nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventies weird satanic horror spectacle. Um, I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: very engaging. I respect the way that the collar of

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Speaker 1: Tom Skerrett's shirt is on the outside of the collar

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Speaker 1: of his jacket. That's that that thumbs up from me. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'd love to hear from everyone out there. Do you

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Speaker 1: have an analysis on what's happening in The Devil's Reign?

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Speaker 1: Do you have some clarity on on the theology of

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Speaker 1: this movie? We would we'd love to hear from you

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Speaker 1: if you do, you have memories of seeing this in

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Speaker 1: the theater and the drive in back in the day,

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Speaker 1: or catching it on television and chunks like like I did,

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Speaker 1: and wondering what in the world am I watching? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right in, we'd love to hear from you. Just a

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Speaker 1: reminder that Weird House Cinema. That's our Friday episode when

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Speaker 1: we set aside most serious concerns and just talk about

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Speaker 1: a weird film. But we're primarily a science podcast with

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