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Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple

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Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.

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Speaker 2: And you know it's appropriate. We're listening to the Narcos

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Speaker 2: theme song here as the show starts. Because there was

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Speaker 2: an old method back in the day where Pablo Escobar,

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Speaker 2: when he wanted to rid himself of his competitors, he

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Speaker 2: would throw them into.

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Speaker 3: A lagoon full of hippopotamuses.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was he throw them in there.

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Speaker 2: He's got these pet hippos and he would throw him

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Speaker 2: in there and just let him go at it. And

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Speaker 2: I don't even think the Pablo Escobar could throw the

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Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers in with a pawn full of hippos and

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Speaker 2: get rid of them, because that.

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Speaker 3: Team does not die. They are a zombie.

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Speaker 2: They did it again last night. It's unbelievable. It's just

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Speaker 2: it's unbel to watch that game. And I'm watching long, thinking, man, Okay,

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Speaker 2: see better extend this. If you don't push it to

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Speaker 2: twenty and you keep them within four five ish possessions,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna figure this thing out. And as the game

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Speaker 2: went down to the wire, they made play after play

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Speaker 2: after play. Even lou Dort makes a great block on

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Speaker 2: Nie Smith and you're like, oh, okay, well that was

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Speaker 2: the real crucial play that had to be had. Pascal

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Speaker 2: Siakam goes out of bounds, they challenge it, call stands.

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Speaker 3: Okay, see gets the ball back.

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Speaker 2: You're like, okay, that's the one that's gonna be ultimately

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Speaker 2: what pushes Okac over the top. And it's just not

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Speaker 2: because Indiana refused to die. Awesome Game one of the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals last night.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was what the NBA if they could

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Speaker 4: have drawn it up man. And I hate to be

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Speaker 4: the I told you so type of guy, but it

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Speaker 4: is I told you so type a moment where if

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Speaker 4: Indiana wins that game, it's it makes the series more watchable,

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Speaker 4: more interesting. If Indiana wins the game the way it

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Speaker 4: was drawn up yesterday, it makes the series way more

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Speaker 4: attractive to watch and want to be a part of.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you think about it. In this game you're

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Speaker 4: talking about the Pacers set a record on turnovers. That's

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Speaker 4: how or excuse me, not a record, but it was

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Speaker 4: the season high, season high twenty five turnovers, and yet

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Speaker 4: they were still over able to overcome the deficit of

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Speaker 4: the entire game, never led the entire game and the

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Speaker 4: only time they lead is when they win. You couldn't

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Speaker 4: have drawn it up any better for a viewer to

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Speaker 4: want to watch, because it took you to the entire game.

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Speaker 4: Unless at the point a time where they were down

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Speaker 4: I want to say it was by at least fifteen.

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Speaker 4: I want to say they were down by If you

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Speaker 4: if you dowed out, if you dialed out in the

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Speaker 4: second half, like the third quarter, based upon what the

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Speaker 4: score was, then you missed. You missed the treat of

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Speaker 4: a game. But to see the way Indiana fights back

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Speaker 4: and claw their way back and get into games, the

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Speaker 4: way that they do, they held to form this is

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Speaker 4: you can't say that this was a luck game or

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Speaker 4: you know they some way, somehow, you know, the OKC

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Speaker 4: thunder gave the game away. They shot poorly, they shot poorly.

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Speaker 4: And while OKAC shot poorly, you know what Indiana did.

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Speaker 4: They just kept getting after it. They were slashing to

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Speaker 4: the hole, which I was loving to see as they

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Speaker 4: were being aggressive getting to the hole. They were kicking

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Speaker 4: the ball out. Guys were finding their range. You start

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Speaker 4: seeing contributions come from from different guys, you know. In

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Speaker 4: the comeback, it just it's one of those games where

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Speaker 4: you ask yourself, you know, did did okay see did

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Speaker 4: okay see open up a door that they shouldn't have

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Speaker 4: opened up in this series? Or was it one of

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Speaker 4: those first game, first game jitters? You're at home. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: being at home can actually play against you a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You know, you you might not for some reason, you

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Speaker 4: might not play as loose. And maybe it's because of

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Speaker 4: the excitement. Maybe is because it's your home crowd. There's

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Speaker 4: just certain reasons why sometimes teams play a little bit better,

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Speaker 4: a little bit more relaxed when they're on the road.

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Speaker 4: But this one was a hit scratcher. I think if

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Speaker 4: you had to come up with a way to kind

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Speaker 4: of sum up what last night represented, it was still

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Speaker 4: a head scratcher that this type of a pendulum swing

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Speaker 4: could take place in a game in the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 4: To this, to this.

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Speaker 2: Degree, the guy who hit the game winner, Tyres Halliburton,

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Speaker 2: spoke afterwards, there.

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Speaker 5: Was never a disbelief as a group. Honestly, you know,

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Speaker 5: we never think the game is over ever. Honestly speaking, ever,

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Speaker 5: like the never that never creeps in. I think we

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Speaker 5: just keep talking as a group, is how can we

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Speaker 5: walk this team down? So it's at twelve going in

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Speaker 5: a halftime. We talk about, if we can win one

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Speaker 5: quarter by six, one quarter by seven, will be in

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Speaker 5: a great spot. We got to a six point game

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Speaker 5: at the end of the third quarter and Sha hit

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Speaker 5: they went on a big run to start the fourth

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Speaker 5: and we just say, okay, it's that fifteen with kid

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Speaker 5: to ten. Well we got it to eight. They call

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Speaker 5: time out, so we just stay with it. So this

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Speaker 5: group never gives up. We never believe that the game

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Speaker 5: is over until it hit zero.

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Speaker 2: And that's a real calculated zombie right there. That's one

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Speaker 2: that's not just one of these Well I'm just going

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Speaker 4: Up and eat everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, I'm just going to get up

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Speaker 2: and this is how I'm gonna do it. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: come in sections. It's going to go one body part

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Speaker 2: by the next, and I'm going to figure out a

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Speaker 2: way to make Halliburton wasn't even good.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he had a great game.

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Speaker 2: He didn't have some some monster game that you look

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Speaker 2: at and go, man, he willed his team to victory.

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Speaker 2: But when he was coming down with that ball following

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Speaker 2: the miss by SGA. There wasn't a doubt in my

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Speaker 2: just you felt it. I think the arena felt it.

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Speaker 2: And there's probably Okay, see thunderfans that are looking around going.

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Speaker 3: What the hell happened? Yeah, and I'll tell you what happened.

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Speaker 2: What happened was the same thing that happened in every

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Speaker 2: single playoff series that Indiana's been involved in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You leave him hanging around for long enough. You don't

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Speaker 2: step on the throat, you don't finish putting their head

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Speaker 2: it into the whole thing. You let him hang around

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Speaker 2: and they ultimately end up making plays to win.

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Speaker 3: That's a fun.

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Speaker 4: Team, you know. I told you. Like the second hour

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Speaker 4: they play the theme song one of the parts of

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Speaker 4: Thirteenth Warrior. Yeah, and what I felt like took place

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Speaker 4: in Last Games last night's game was comparable to a

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Speaker 4: was one of the Norsemen that came with Bouvi to

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Speaker 4: That the village was that sent for for them. You

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Speaker 4: know what they were facing. Well, the son of the

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Speaker 4: bouv brought with him, you know, picked a fight with him.

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Speaker 4: You know, and this this reminds me of that game

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Speaker 4: last night, right, Okay, see the big, tall, strong dude,

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Speaker 4: and you got this little dude over here, and he's

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Speaker 4: he's digging. Everybody's digging trenches and he's throwing the mud

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Speaker 4: they picked a fight. They get in the ring and

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Speaker 4: And the confidence of the big dude is growing by

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Speaker 4: every single shield that he's crushing on this little dude.

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Speaker 4: just like what the OKC Thunder was doing in his game,

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Speaker 4: seemingly looking like they were just too much, they were

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Speaker 4: It almost looks like it's just defeat. He's too weak,

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Speaker 4: he's too small, he's not he's not nearly the warrior

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Speaker 4: He looks at the King's son and the King's sons like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: doing you know, finish it? Chop that man's head off

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Speaker 4: their their you know, with their bench, they have so

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Speaker 4: for a half of basketball, really, really, I mean you didn't,

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Speaker 4: you still maintained your lead throughout the second half of

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Speaker 4: just took out the champion. And now, okaysee has to

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Speaker 4: figure out how they're going to move forward in this

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Speaker 4: series because what I felt took place in this first game,

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Speaker 4: OKAC was ready to come out of that game and say,

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Speaker 4: you know, we didn't shoot our best, but we defended

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Speaker 4: Even though guys didn't shoot well from the perimeter. Our

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Speaker 4: That's a very very hard that's a hard riddle to solve.

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Speaker 2: It's a football Friday. It's a damn Friday on Fox

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Speaker 4: Come on, Bar, come on, yeah, yeah, we got some basketball.

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Speaker 4: It's football Friday. But we got some basketball. We talked

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Speaker 4: Football Friday. What's wrong with Jonas? Did you just use

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Speaker 4: for Eddie. Friday night is a football Friday. Yeah, fall Friday.

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Speaker 4: Rock them, suck them, throw it, catch it.

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Speaker 3: It is a football Friday.

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Speaker 1: Here on. Be sure to catch live editions of two

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Speaker 1: Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,

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Speaker 2: Those Pittsburgh Steelers got some good news yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Did they?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers it's official, signs a one year deal with

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Speaker 2: No surprise whatsoever. Brady Quinn had called his shot on this,

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Speaker 4: Is this a major shocker and a surprise? I mean,

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Speaker 2: that you laid out. I think he missed what he

433
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Speaker 2: had in green Bay, and it was furthered with his

434
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Speaker 2: experience with the Jets, and I think they're the appeal

435
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Speaker 2: to him with Pittsburgh, and we don't know what the contract,

436
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Speaker 2: what the numbers are. He said he would be willing

437
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Speaker 2: to play for ten million dollars. I don't think it

438
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Speaker 2: has anything to do with that, and I don't even

439
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Speaker 2: think it has to do with chasing another Super Bowl.

440
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Speaker 2: I think he wants to go out the same way

441
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Speaker 2: that he came in. I think there was something about

442
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Speaker 2: the green Bay experience, even though he's a California guy

443
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: and all that, that I think he really missed because

444
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: when he got to the Jets, I mean, you got

445
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: an owner landing helicopters, you got a former coach who

446
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: was a foot fetish guy. You've got people getting fired,

447
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: them blaming Rogers players not wanting to be there or

448
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: reporting and noto. It's like the whole thing was a disaster.

449
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: Madden ratings to evaluate players by the owner's son. The

450
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: whole thing was a clown show. And I think he

451
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: looked at it and said, man, I could walk away

452
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Speaker 2: right now. I've got my five hundred touchdowns, I'm a

453
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Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. I got to play with

454
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Speaker 2: my best friend again, DeVante Adams last year. I did

455
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: everything I could possibly want to do in my career.

456
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: I just want to end it on the right note.

457
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Speaker 2: And this may result in a nine and eight season

458
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Speaker 2: and Tomlin gets to stay five hundred, but he signs

459
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Speaker 2: a one year deal because I think he's ready to

460
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Speaker 2: go out the right way, and I think that environment

461
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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh makes sense for him if he wants to

462
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Speaker 2: bookend his career and finish it off the way that

463
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Speaker 2: it started. Pittsburgh I think was the most appealing landing

464
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Speaker 2: spot for him.

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Speaker 4: You said he had other options, Yeah, what were they?

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Speaker 2: I think he could have gone to Tennessee, Okay, I

467
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: think the New York Giants would have been a possibility.

468
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Speaker 2: I think that Minnesota had he had he waited, or

469
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Speaker 2: had he been willing to sit behind a JJ McCarthy

470
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Speaker 2: or even have a further conversation with Kevin O'Connell about that,

471
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Speaker 2: I think that maybe would have been a possibility.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Niners like it's.

473
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Speaker 2: It's not that there were a lot of options, But

474
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Speaker 2: I do think that he looked at Pittsburgh and said

475
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Speaker 2: that would makes sense. Look, the Saints could have signed him.

476
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Speaker 2: He could have gone to New Orleans like that. That

477
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Speaker 2: was another landing spot, potized.

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Speaker 4: I think those are all I don't think those are

479
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Speaker 4: as strong options as you're making them sound. I think,

480
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Speaker 4: just in short, this was his only option. Let's be clear.

481
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: Those other ones you named, those aren't Those aren't real options.

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Speaker 4: What about retirement, I don't think. I don't. I think

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Speaker 4: if retirement was the sole other option that he had,

484
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Speaker 4: he would have he would have retired. I think he

485
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Speaker 4: would have retired. And and so to me, when he

486
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Speaker 4: didn't retire in the timely fashion that it seemed like

487
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Speaker 4: he was, you know, you got a choice you have

488
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Speaker 4: to make, and he was shopping it around and everybody

489
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Speaker 4: knew he wanted to try to get to Minnesota, and

490
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Speaker 4: Minnesota seemingly or bought into what they may be able

491
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Speaker 4: to get out of McCarthy. That was not an option

492
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Speaker 4: that was on the table for Aaron Rodgers, not as

493
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Speaker 4: a backup, not as anything. I just I don't I

494
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: don't agree with that, and I don't believe that as

495
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Speaker 4: far as any of these other teams that are out here.

496
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Speaker 4: I don't believe those were legitimate options. I don't believe

497
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Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints was a legitimate option. I don't

498
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Speaker 4: believe that, after all them quarterbacks they brought in to

499
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Speaker 4: to New York, that it was a legitimate option. And

500
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Speaker 4: it makes me very, very curious and very leary of

501
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: the fact. We had the same conversation about Sam Darnald. Now,

502
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm not going to compare careers obviously of Sam Donald

503
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: and Aaron Rodgers, but what I will compare is the

504
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: level of interest. And it's interesting because it kind of

505
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: dovetails into the Shador Sanders conversation as well. The market speaks,

506
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: and when the market speaks, you gotta listen, whether you

507
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: like it or not, whether you want to create a situation.

508
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: I mean, god, Lee stephen Ay out here talking about

509
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 4: Shador Sanders reminded him of the Colin Kaepernick situation, Like,

510
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: you can sensationalize what the market says about you or not.

511
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Speaker 3: Who's Colin Kaepernick?

512
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Speaker 4: Dang, Yeah, Well it's been a while. You can sensationalize

513
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: what the wise in the house of what the market says,

514
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: but when that market comes out and it says what

515
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: you are, that's what you are, and the market said

516
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: that Aaron Rodgers is not good enough to be one

517
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Speaker 4: of these quarterbacks that we're willing to risk taking in

518
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: the offseason and adding him to our roster. There was

519
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: only one team that was willing to not only meet

520
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Speaker 4: with him and want to bring him in, but pretty

521
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Speaker 4: much under the terms and the timeline that he felt

522
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Speaker 4: comfortable with doing, and that was the Pittsburgh Steelers.

523
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Speaker 3: It only takes one.

524
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Speaker 4: It only takes one, but in a league of thirty

525
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: one teams, because obviously he's not going to go back

526
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Speaker 4: to the New York Jets. In a thirty one team pool,

527
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: that only one is a team that to me, it's

528
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: a very pivotal year for this team. And so for

529
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Speaker 4: there to only be one team that wants Aaron Rodgers,

530
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Speaker 4: my biggest question is how much does he have left?

531
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Speaker 4: And if you're basing bringing him in and feeling excited

532
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Speaker 4: about the season on who Aaron Rodgers was, I just

533
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: feel like that's a dangerous decision to make if you're

534
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and and could ultimately it could be

535
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Speaker 4: it's a boomer bust situation. Jonas, Either it's boom and

536
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: you look at it, and you say the GM did

537
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: a great job, they took a chance, it worked out

538
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: and here they are, or it could be a costly mistake.

539
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Speaker 4: I think that if it doesn't work out, you may

540
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Speaker 4: see changes come seasons in. I don't think it'll come

541
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Speaker 4: in season, just because of the type of organization they are.

542
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Speaker 4: But who's to say that if this thing goes as

543
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Speaker 4: bad as it looked and seemed and felt in New

544
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Speaker 4: York when he was there, I wouldn't be surprised if

545
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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh made a change during the course of the season.

546
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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

547
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

548
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

549
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Speaker 2: We mentioned the feel good news for the Indiana Pacers.

550
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: If you're an Indiana sports fan, you gotta feel good

551
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: about your Pacers. Gotta feel great about your Indiana Pacers.

552
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 2: And then the cultural around and they decided, you know what,

553
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Speaker 2: We're gonna draft Anthony Richardson to be our future franchise quarterback.

554
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Speaker 3: He's going to be the.

555
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: Guy, and we're gonna give him plenty of opportunities. And

556
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: this was a pivotal year. It was a big year

557
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: for Anthony Richardson and we're already off to a rough start.

558
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: Take it away, Colt's head coach, Ainstaking.

559
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 7: Anthony sustained an injury in his throwing shoulder. Felt some

560
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 7: pain in it, Doctors, trainers checked it out. He's got

561
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Speaker 7: some aggravation and his ac joint. So we're gonna set

562
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Speaker 7: him out this week. Obviously, he'll sit out for mini camp.

563
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 7: We'll see when he comes back. Not gonna put a

564
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Speaker 7: timetable for training camp on it, but when he does

565
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Speaker 7: come back, we'll ease him into throwing and then we'll

566
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Speaker 7: go from there. The good thing is he's not gonna

567
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Speaker 7: need a procedure right now, all right.

568
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Speaker 2: So same shoulder that he had ac joint surgery on

569
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, and now he's got something that's

570
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: popped up yet again and they're gonna hopefully have him

571
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Speaker 2: return at some point. No surgery yet, but the idea

572
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: is at some point during training camp he's going to

573
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Speaker 2: be there. But for right now he's out indefinitely, which

574
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: does open up the door for Daniel Jones to take

575
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Speaker 2: the reins and just keep this thing on trucking.

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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, the door was already open

577
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: even if Anthony Richardson's ac joint was perfectly fine and intact.

578
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anyone would dispute that piece

579
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Speaker 4: of information. Now the question becomes, does this become a

580
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Speaker 4: one horse situation with Daniel Jones and what the idea

581
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Speaker 4: of moving forward, what that looks like for this team

582
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Speaker 4: and for Daniel Jones. That's what I would say. There's there,

583
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Speaker 4: I mean, there's just a lot of question marks surrounding

584
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Speaker 4: the number two team from the AFC South. You're in

585
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 4: a great position as a team to be able to

586
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Speaker 4: possibly compete with Houston for you know, for that that

587
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Speaker 4: that first spot and that automatic you know, get into

588
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: the playoffs deal by winning your your your division. But

589
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: when you look at this, this cold team, how do

590
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 4: you find yourself feeling It's like you look at their

591
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: their depth chart, you look at their their team, and

592
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Speaker 4: you would believe that with the talent that they have,

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Speaker 4: that they really could be a real contender. I mean,

594
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Speaker 4: at one point, not too long ago, in the distant past,

595
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 4: this was a team you looked at and said they

596
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Speaker 4: have the makings of a super Bowl, a Super Bowl

597
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 4: contending team and they're I mean, they have some players

598
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Speaker 4: on defense, they have some players on offense. I mean,

599
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Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor at one point was contending and competing to

600
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Speaker 4: be considered one of the top backs in this league.

601
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Speaker 4: Now he's dealt with a couple different setbacks, but for

602
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: the most part, Jonathan Taylor when he's on, that's a

603
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 4: that's a pretty big piece of anybody's team puzzle. When

604
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: you have a guy that can run the ball the

605
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: way that he does, takes pressure off of guys like

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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones. And we all know that

607
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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones had Sakwon Barkley to take that pressure off

608
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Speaker 4: of him. In New York, Michael Pittman Junior is a

609
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: guy at the receiver's position that while he doesn't get

610
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: spoken on the level of like the Jamar Chases and

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Speaker 4: the Justin Jeffersons, you know, and that that type of

612
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Speaker 4: that type of rating and ranking of upper echelance elite,

613
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 4: you know, receivers, he's still a very very gifted football player.

614
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 4: And keep in mind in the draft they got our

615
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: guy out of Penn State, which I don't understand why

616
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Speaker 4: people maybe try to downgrade him and not talk as

617
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: highly about Tyler Warren because he wasn't the first tight

618
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: end taking in the draft, but he is. If if

619
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: you're asking me who was the steel of the draft,

620
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: it was then Danapolis Colts getting Tyler warn one hundred,

621
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Speaker 4: that's the steal.

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Speaker 3: So but teach Haryld that's fine.

623
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Speaker 4: Well you want that's the most valued pick for certain Again,

624
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Speaker 4: that's a whole other conversation because because it could take

625
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 4: you off into a whole nother conversation. If you get

626
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Speaker 4: a guy in the fifth round and you drafted in

627
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: the third round the same position, and you brought in

628
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: two free agents and that fifth round the ends up

629
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Speaker 4: being your starter, that says a lot about that team

630
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: and a lot about the other teams in the league.

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00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, but that's a whole other conversation. I

632
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: think that when you look at the Indianapolis Colts, Anthony

633
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: Richardson is in a position to solidify a job and

634
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: have that job with this personnel if he does what

635
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: he needs to do. But it's also an opportunity for

636
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones to try to resurrect or salvage a career

637
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: that maybe maybe he was unfairly judged. Maybe he becomes

638
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 4: the villain to Sakwan Barkley being the hero in this storyline.

639
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I feel like the Colts are

640
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: in a really, really good position in terms of being

641
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: able to have a good season in that season being

642
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: a win for their organization and for their team. And

643
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 4: yet again you're having conversations of not being clear and

644
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: not being sure on what Anthony Richardson is going to

645
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 4: bring to the table, and as a high draft pick,

646
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 4: what is he going to represent and what is he

647
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: going to mean to this team and this franchise moving forward.

648
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson's not getting this job back, and for all

649
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: intents and purposes, his career in Indianapolis is probably over.

650
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: He missed he only started four games his rookie year

651
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: because of injuries. He started eleven games last year, missed

652
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: a bunch because of either injuries or he got benched

653
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: and decided to take a knee during the course of

654
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: a game. Obviously, young mistakes. Whatever the talent's there. We've

655
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: detailed the touchdown throw we had Week one, I believe

656
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: against Houston last year, which is one of the great

657
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: throws you'll ever see in the NFL. But the problem

658
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: is the injuries and the inconsistent play have cost him.

659
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: And now you've got a situation where you've got a

660
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: quarterback who is fighting for his career to be saved

661
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: and a coach who's fighting for his job to be saved.

662
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: Because of Indianapolis struggles this year, Shane Steichen's probably gone.

663
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: So I look at it and I go, man, if

664
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones just plays serviceable football and keeps them in

665
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: the fight, Anthony Richardson isn't getting the job back.

666
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: It's just not happening.

667
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: If Daniel Jones, barring injury or poor play, I don't see.

668
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: I don't see how this turns out well for Anthony Richardson.

669
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: And I just think this was, as you mentioned, the

670
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: door was opened when they may the decision to sign

671
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. There's a reason why Daniel Jones wanted to

672
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: go there, why he signed with Indianapolis, because I think

673
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: he saw this as a real possibility, a real opportunity.

674
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: To be the starter there.

675
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: And now, if you're Indianapolis, if I was a Colts fan,

676
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: I would feel better about my team going into this

677
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: year with Daniel Jones. With Daniel Jones than I would

678
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson just from the standpoint of at least I

679
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: know what I'm going to get. At least I know

680
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: what I'm going to get. It may not be the

681
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: greatest quarterback back play at times, but it's not like

682
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones hasn't played good football for an extended period

683
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: of time. He's got an offensive minded coach there in

684
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: Shane Steikin who's done it with quarterbacks like he did

685
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: in Philly. With Anthony Richardson, I think it was too

686
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: much of a wild card, and I do think in

687
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: agreement with you that Indianapolis is in a better spot

688
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: today than they were yesterday.

689
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 4: We just had to wait and see how it plays

690
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: out again. I think the the a f C South

691
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: is just a peculiar, curious division. Now, can I ask

692
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 4: the AFC deal.

693
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, though.

694
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: All right, because last year when we were making our

695
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: season picks, you were so disenchanted with the a f

696
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: C South you didn't even bother of picking the order.

697
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you actually.

698
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: Finished picking who you thought was going to win the

699
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 2: division because you were just so bored with it, which

700
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: I think is a natural reaction to the a f

701
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: C South, Like if we're being honest, so.

702
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: Like why pick, Like what you're gonna You're gonna come

703
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: to the same conclusion again this year the Jaguars are

704
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: going to be a disappointment. It's like, Pete, It's like

705
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 4: you're going to be a disappointment.

706
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: It's like somebody asked you, like, hey, which is your

707
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 2: favorite parking lot?

708
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 3: I don't know who cares, Like, what do you mean I'm.

709
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: Gonna have to walk from all of them? Yeah, if

710
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: they're in a parking space in like the front lot,

711
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: which is like the Texans. If it's not a lot

712
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: space in the Texans parking lot, then I don't want

713
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to go in part. I gotta walk

714
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: from wherever ile.

715
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: So I'm going, hey, rank your favorite seven elevens. What

716
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: do you mean they're all the same? Like, they're all

717
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: the same. They're in a CD part of town.

718
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 2: You go there, you just hope your car is still

719
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: intact when you get out to the like this is

720
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: it is? What It's like, they're all You look at

721
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: all these teams, they're kind of all the same. Like

722
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: there's not really a like there's a reason why, you know,

723
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: they probably invented the color rush game because it was like,

724
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: hey man, how could we get people to actually want

725
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: to watch Jacksonville Tennessee. I know, let's do something goofy

726
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: with their jerseys and hope people are adjusting their televisions

727
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: and we can draw rating because they've.

728
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: Got it on the TV long enough.

729
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: Like I just so.

730
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: Now you've got Indianapolis, who's in this spot that we

731
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell Houston's going to look like.

732
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: They got a bunch of changes with their you know,

733
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: their offensive coaching staff that they had to make.

734
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: You got CJ.

735
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Stroud who's not throwing because of quote general soreness. Jacksonville

736
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: who the hell knows. And Tennessee, he's got a rookie

737
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: quarterback Shane Stikeen's looking at this like, hey man, I

738
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: gotta save my job. We've got a quarterback who's banged

739
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: up again and took a knee last year and we

740
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: can't depend on him. I'll just ride with Daniel Jones

741
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: and see if we can get this team out of

742
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: the playoffs. And I can and I can save my

743
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: gig here in Indianapolis.

744
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: That's what it feels like to me.

745
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: I mean, if you believe that Liam Cohen is going

746
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 4: to come in and have people on the duvou and

747
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 4: totally change what the cadence has been there in Jacksonville,

748
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 4: then be excited. You know, it's just as open for

749
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: Cohen and company to come in and assert and apply

750
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: themselves into a situation where they could be atop the

751
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: AFC South. Same thing could happen for the you know,

752
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna say Tennessee, but definitely for the Colts.

753
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: I just feel like with Houston, I don't know what

754
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 4: I'm going to get, but I do know they're going

755
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 4: to win. This is what I do know. The Houston

756
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 4: Texans are going to win because they have CJ. Stroud

757
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 4: at quarterback. Now, how impressive will they be? Will they

758
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 4: be able to stay at top of the AFC South?

759
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: If I'm a betting man, I'm going to say yes.

760
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: But did any of those other teams do anything to

761
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: really shut down the gap between them and the Texans?

762
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 4: I would say definitively no, you haven't shut down the gap.

763
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: And listen, I think that that Travis Hunter will be

764
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 4: an amazing addition to the Jacksonville Jaguars, but I do

765
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: not look at them and until Trevor Lawrence proves that

766
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: he's more than what he's been. I don't really I

767
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 4: don't look at Jacksonville as favorably as I did when

768
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 4: the excitement was still there for Trevor Lawrence and what

769
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: he could bring to the table as a franchise generational quarterback.

770
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: He's just been pretty pretty on Parr like and I

771
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 4: would say maybe even one over Parr, you know.

772
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: But and that's that's given him the benefit.

773
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 4: Of the doubt, that's given him a little bit. That's yeah.

774
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: So to me, I don't know what Tennessee is going

775
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 4: to do. I still think like Tennessee is going to

776
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 4: be a seller dweller, even though I have just watched

777
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 4: I watched the McNair Untold Untold story yesterday, and he

778
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: really did in his you know, inaugural year. He really

779
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: did an excellent job with with Tennessee.

780
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: You watched you watch that McNair doc Okay, what was

781
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: your immediate just the whole it's probably more interesting than

782
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: the AFC South conversation. All right, what was your immediate

783
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: takeaway from watching the Steve McNair documentary, Because I'll tell

784
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: you what mine was. It didn't it didn't tell me

785
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: anything there was I took. I got nothing from it. Okay, yeah,

786
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: we get it. Very very weird, a very weird situation.

787
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: And it seems like more went on. Any answers, Nope,

788
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: just speculations.

789
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: Awesome, and that's I walked away from it still wondering, like, Okay,

790
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: it seemed like they came to the real conclusion that

791
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: the girlfriend did it and maybe just maybe that's what

792
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: it was. But I still feel like I walked away

793
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: from it, like there was foul play. It could have

794
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: been it could have been the guy that they they

795
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: found that that sold the gun, that bought the gun,

796
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: and if you guys watched the documentary you'll know what

797
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: I'm talking about. It could have been him that did it,

798
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: ran up on him, maybe stole something, whatever. I don't

799
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 4: know because they didn't make it a point like could

800
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 4: have been a robbery that took place. Was there anything missing?

801
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: I don't think that they even went through any of that,

802
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: like nothing was missing. When when they just came to

803
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: the conclusion that she did both of them. She hit

804
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 4: him and then she hit herself, you know what I mean.

805
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Like the way they details it, well, she wanted to

806
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: end up in his lap, and it's like, well if

807
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: you if you make the decision to call it a day,

808
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you really get to determine where you land.

809
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 4: It's it's really don't.

810
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 3: Like it's like you know, throwing up a hail Mary

811
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: and getting kicked.

812
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 4: Off and being like, damn, she was on the floor, right,

813
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: she ended up on the floor. Yeah, just you know,

814
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 4: all I'll say is Jonas is the first thing tristaid

815
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: when she was watching, and she was like the wife.

816
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 4: It was the wife. The wife would and got him.

817
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: And I never thought of it that way. I never

818
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: even looked at it that way, like dang, Like you know,

819
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: you can draw different conclusions from it, you know that,

820
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: Like they had the boyfriend as one of the main

821
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: peace people that they interviewed to try to piece the

822
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: story together.

823
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: Thanks for that thought. Now I got to clear all

824
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: my messages, Jesus.

825
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just there. I think there's different angles

826
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 4: in which you could look at. They tried to blame

827
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: the best friend of falling out. It could have been him,

828
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 4: but there's the idea that they What I feel is

829
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: interesting about that, Doc Jonas is that they positioned you

830
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: to try to figure out who committed the crime. It

831
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: wasn't this lady did it, And here's how she did it,

832
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: here's why she did it. Here's definitive information that proves

833
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 4: that this was who did it. I didn't come away

834
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 4: from it feeling that way. I came away from that

835
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: doc having more questions than you know to ask, needing

836
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 4: answered than questions answered from watching it.

837
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: And it was if they were like, all right, the end,

838
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: now you figure it out. No, that's not that's not

839
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: our job. Our like it's been all these years later.

840
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: The guy who's done a great job, by the way,

841
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: on the Steve McNair murder suice, whatever you want to

842
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: call it, armand Katayan, Yeah, has done a great job.

843
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: And I think he's been pretty consistent if I remember correctly,

844
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 2: that he doesn't buy the story like he doesn't buy

845
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: just every detail of the story that's been laid out

846
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: in the way and the way it all happened. It

847
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: just it's a sad story, no doubt, But there's just

848
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: something about it that has never landed right with me.

849
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 4: It just seems too too clean to direct it and

850
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: put it on her.

851
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: And by the way, how about the fact that we're

852
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: coming up on the sixteen year anniversary.

853
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: That's crazy. It's such a that one rocked the football

854
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 4: communities to the core. I mean, there's so many people

855
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 4: that can remember. I can remember exactly where I was too,

856
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: the vehicle I was driving, the city at I was in,

857
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 4: what I was doing, I was driving when that that

858
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: information hit. It's one of the most airy, like empty,

859
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: sad feelings, like numb feelings that you could possibly have.

860
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: And I didn't even know Steve that well. We were

861
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 4: at the Pro Bowl. The only time that I ever

862
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: really spent with him and had a conversation was very brief,

863
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Speaker 4: and it was at the Pro Bowl. We were on

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Speaker 4: the elevator together, and it was the year he was

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Speaker 4: a co MVP with Peyton Manning and we we were

866
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Speaker 4: heading down to the lobby and had a conversation in

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Speaker 4: the elevator, real real cordial dude, real good dude. Like

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Speaker 4: you know, he was like, yeah, I'm just I'm glad

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Speaker 4: youating in our division. Da da dad this, And now

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Speaker 4: he was gassing me. And I liked it when the

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Speaker 4: dude gased you up at that point in your career.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, man, I just I did come

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Speaker 4: away from that that that untold with more questions versus like,

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Speaker 4: how do you how do you come to the rest

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Speaker 4: on the conclusion that it was a murder and a

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Speaker 4: suicide deal? How do you come away with it as

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Speaker 4: that's your conclusion. I felt like there was just a

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Speaker 4: lot a lot of questions that were remaining at the

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Speaker 4: end of that, and you probably won't get another documentary

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Speaker 4: that clears it up. That's the interesting thing about it.

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Speaker 4: They do a lot of stuff with with Brett Farr,

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00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: but in reality, this is one of the ones where

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00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 4: you'd be like then Aaron Hernandez, but this one has

884
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Speaker 4: more storyline plot twist if they dig a little deeper,

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Speaker 4: if you ask me, than even Aaron Hernandez a situation.

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Speaker 2: And that'll wrap up our preview of the could a

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Speaker 2: girlfriend here on the show?

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Speaker 4: He could have been one of the other girlfriends. There

889
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 4: was clearly other people involved that we didn't even really

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Speaker 4: get an opportunity to even get them developed in the storyline,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And there's somebody sitting back

892
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Speaker 4: somewhere like I really got away with this. Yeah, I

893
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: really did this, and I'm still free. I'm really going

894
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Speaker 4: to do it.

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Speaker 3: There you go and uh those are our picks to

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Speaker 3: win the a f C South