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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's a Friday here in Pittsburgh, but it's a bye

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Speaker 1: week Friday, so it's a little different. We did get

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Speaker 1: to see uh Thursday night the Cleveland Browns, who the

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Speaker 1: Steelers will play coming out of the by next Sunday

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Nice to have a standalone game for the

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Speaker 1: opponent to really focus on you like spending Halloween in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: M Brown and orange, Baby brown and orange. She's just

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Speaker 1: seen those orange. I used to have a picture I

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Speaker 1: just reminded me of. Uh. One year, I was driving

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland and I drove past this flatbed truck, big

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Speaker 1: one the bheel. Yeah, it was like a eight wheeler thing.

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Speaker 1: One of the bigger size ones. On the back of

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Speaker 1: the of the truck was a pumpkin that had to

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Speaker 1: weigh three hundred pounds. It's just a monster pump It

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Speaker 1: was the only thing on the truck. And as I'm

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Speaker 1: driving by, I took a picture of it in my phone.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never seen a pumpkin that big. I

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Speaker 1: could have climbed inside that pumpkin. Wow, and plan on

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Speaker 1: talking pumpkins with you. But my late father in law

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Speaker 1: where my guys like big pumpkins. Your wife big pumpkin farmer. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: the huge pumpkin patch every year and she just married

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Speaker 1: a pumpkin heads right, right. But we have a picture

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Speaker 1: of him with his tractor pulling this pumpkin out of

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Speaker 1: the ground that weighed hundreds of pounds. There's a trick

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Speaker 1: to doing that, right, Yeah, there's there's some kind of true,

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Speaker 1: a massive disappointment to him because on many levels, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I couldn't weld, I couldn't farm. He didn't know

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Speaker 1: what the first down was. I mean, we drank irons

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Speaker 1: together and chuckle, but we did. I was a massive

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Speaker 1: I remember we had we had dinner, My wife and

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Speaker 1: I had dinner with you and your wife and your

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Speaker 1: your wife was talking about the pumpkin. There was some

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Speaker 1: kind of it was that I mean, but there was

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Speaker 1: there was some kind of pumpkin alcoholic drink that you're

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Speaker 1: he would get pumpkins, hollow him out, fill them for

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Speaker 1: a cinnamon. I think it was put him in their

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Speaker 1: roots seller. I didn't have a root seller. And then

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Speaker 1: you go back in six months, you tap the bottom

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Speaker 1: of it and it's it will get you loaded. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they had all kinds of tricks, the roots seller

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Speaker 1: and Mountain Lebanon leave roots or I'm at But if

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Speaker 1: the wife's been pushing for a root celler, you guys,

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Speaker 1: seems like such a good match. That's you go. The

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Speaker 1: first down is either, which is wonderful. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what she does for a living either, So as you

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Speaker 1: can imagine, I was a big disappointment to Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, but they can grow some mean as pumpkins

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Speaker 1: out there. I can tell you that that they needed

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Speaker 1: to pull the tractor out there. It's in deer Township, right,

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Speaker 1: Deer Lakes. You're like outside Tarendom, but not to Endom

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Speaker 1: is a city, but they're not in the city. It's

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Speaker 1: not farm farm, but we grew up a little different.

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Speaker 1: I can see that. There, you have it. It just

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Speaker 1: remind me that it's the other thing it reminded me

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Speaker 1: of is that the penn State, Ohio states this weekend, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think no, next week, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: next week. This will be like the fourth time I've

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Speaker 1: driven to Cleveland, Penn State, Ohio State will be on

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Speaker 1: the radio as I'm driving up the chances. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you go to Cleveland a lot, and I do at

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Speaker 1: least once every year, but and they play every year.

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Speaker 1: But still that's an odd coincidence. So that'll be that'll

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Speaker 1: be happening as well. But are off to a roaring start. Um,

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Speaker 1: this could be the final game for Ben Roethlisberger in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Less both teams made the playoffs and the Steelers might

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Speaker 1: have to go back up there. Two and one in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and one man, he still he remains the second

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Speaker 1: winning this quarterback in Cleveland Brown Stadium history. When he

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Speaker 1: owned that record, it was one of the more remarkable

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Speaker 1: things that I could remember. I mean, because that's hard.

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Speaker 1: It took Baker like three years to get there too, right,

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Speaker 1: and he obviously started slow. But they're starting to win

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Speaker 1: games recently. Yeah, so it wasn't like they were terrible

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Speaker 1: team during the whole Mayfield era. That's pretty remarkable. And

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Speaker 1: he's just owned Ohio, which happens to be his home

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Speaker 1: state and all that stuff too. But nice having those

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Speaker 1: two in the division over the last couple years, especially

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Speaker 1: Brown he's not fun having the Ravens in the division lately,

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Speaker 1: no enhancement. May It got me to thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: people like to bang that drum on the Steelers having

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Speaker 1: three playoff wins, since they're their last super Bowl three

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Speaker 1: playoff wins, the last deecond. However you want, however you

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Speaker 1: fifteen is what they have. That's true. People like people

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Speaker 1: like to stretch it back to the super Bowl because

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Speaker 1: there was, but they have three. Sister two thousand, the

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Speaker 1: Browns have one. Yeah, the Bengals have none. Yeah in

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Ravens have three in that period. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that ends up. I mean, so we talked about a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and we don't need to go down this road.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think most people realize how hard it

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Speaker 1: is to win in the playoffs. I mean, the best

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Speaker 1: playoff coach like, but everything's measured against the Patriots in

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Speaker 1: this era, right, which is insane. I mean that's like

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Speaker 1: comparing Ewing's, you know, Nick's versus the Jordan era, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean great teams or frankly, I mean

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Speaker 1: people that are old enough. My dad will tell you boy,

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Speaker 1: those Oiler teams were awesome, but they were second. Those

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Speaker 1: Raider teams in the eleven Hall of Famers and one

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Speaker 1: super Bowl and their second. You know, the second is

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Speaker 1: no fun and all all that matters is hoisting championships.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this franchise has done it as much as anyone,

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Speaker 1: so we can live on both sides of that. But

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Speaker 1: even the great great coaches, I mean, it would be

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Speaker 1: a fun study just every coach in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: what's their collective or average playoff record? Probably like it's

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Speaker 1: not right, I mean, fifties pretty is great because remember

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Speaker 1: Belichick is not in the Hall of Fame yet, right,

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Speaker 1: but even Walsh and gives them and in parcels and

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Speaker 1: I mean those guys, if you win fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: final year. I think Bill kaour the losing record in

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Speaker 1: He was below five hundred in the postseason. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean every coach gets one a year if you make

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Speaker 1: the postseason, except for one and the guy who wins

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl gets three or four Wednesday kind of

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Speaker 1: pumps up your average a little. Absolutely. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can win a few, it goes a long way. But

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Speaker 1: if there's fourteen teams in the playoffs, thirteen of them

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Speaker 1: are gonna get a lost. Yeah, you know, every year

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Speaker 1: someone get multiple wins, but know that all goes out.

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Speaker 1: Saying um made me think of that. As had the

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Speaker 1: playoffs started this week the season ended, the Steelers would

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Speaker 1: have been the seventh seed in the playoffs before that game,

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Speaker 1: before the game last day, before weeks seven. This is

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Speaker 1: this is from a team that two weeks ago people said,

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Speaker 1: I just they're not going anywhere this season. Just be

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Speaker 1: done with it. You know who they drafted? Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: things change, things change, and getting the playoffs and see

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Speaker 1: what the teams looks like that and I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure the line will be playing better by the end

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Speaker 1: and they haven't had enough playoff wins. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: seven teams would have went, they would have been the seventh.

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Speaker 1: You know, like it's not like they're the tenth seed

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Speaker 1: every year. The Bengals there not the Lions. Absolutely. The schedule, uh,

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Speaker 1: the aforementioned schedule. They had the second hardest schedule in

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Speaker 1: the league to this point through six games. To your point,

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Speaker 1: I think you had that this thing here somewhere. I do.

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Speaker 1: It's up near to the top if you're looking at

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Speaker 1: the word document I sent you that. Um, you can

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Speaker 1: also find all these stuff on Steelers dot com that

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Speaker 1: just got published too. I think they call it matt

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Speaker 1: stats or no scouts notebooks with Steelers. The teams play

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have played thus far are combined fourteen really

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Speaker 1: good if you look at it. I mean, until like

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Speaker 1: last week, they played three teams with one loss, right,

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Speaker 1: point differential for these teams are total one differential for

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Speaker 1: these teams really difficult. The remaining schedule according to Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Outsiders, and they factor in level of playing all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. At this point in the season, Uh, is

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Speaker 1: the fifth hardest schedule, so it lightens up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: worse than expected. He might be catching the Browns at

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Speaker 1: the right time. Let's let's say, let's talk about that

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Speaker 1: well as the the the torn um. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he case keenum wasn't great last night. No, he

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Speaker 1: was passable. Um, if I'm the Browns, I tell Baker,

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Speaker 1: can do a favorite, can you pull have the brown schedule?

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Speaker 1: Because I was I hadn't thought about this much till

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Speaker 1: not a doctor, and Jake Glazer is not a doctor.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sitting there listening to Glazer go, well, what

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Speaker 1: we need to happen is the bone needs to heal

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Speaker 1: none of this stuff is gonna happen by Halloween. David Child,

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Speaker 1: Dr David, Yeah, he's good. He texted me this morning

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Speaker 1: and said that the real issue is because because of

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Speaker 1: which stretches all the muscles, and it was already injured. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said, the real issue here is you can he said,

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Speaker 1: you can play with the bone broken into that fractured

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Speaker 1: humorus the Glazer was talking about. Yeah, the real question

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Speaker 1: is will the will the muscles around the joint hold

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Speaker 1: It drops out pretty easily until you get that three

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Speaker 1: the bone had the heel before you can rehab six,

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Speaker 1: I thought, Yeah, it's not gonna happen in a week.

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Speaker 1: I would not expect to see him next week against

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Speaker 1: now their schedule they play this. That's why I brought

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Speaker 1: it up, like if I were in charge of the Browns.

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Speaker 1: And again, they know much more medical than I. Would.

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Speaker 1: I would rest them till they're by I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you look at the games and they could lose anybody,

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Speaker 1: they could beat anybody. The problem is as they played

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Speaker 1: before their bye week, the Steelers, I think, the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: getting the wind last night, I still think their favorite

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hand the ball off, We're gonna keep running

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Speaker 1: it even if it doesn't work. We're just gonna keep

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Speaker 1: pounding them away. We're not gonna take shots, even though

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Speaker 1: this team gives up a bunch of them, because you

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Speaker 1: in that situation, We're just helping them. Actually doesn't hold

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Speaker 1: it up or you know, right, absolutely, don't give them

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Speaker 1: any gifts. When you're playing Aaron Rodgers, you're gonna take

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Speaker 1: some shots. Yeah, Yeah, And there's a coach is talking

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Speaker 1: about this all the time. I mean, there's a big

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Speaker 1: difference between winning football games and not losing them. And

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Speaker 1: I think when you have both those teams last night

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Speaker 1: played not to lose. You know, the Steelers Seattle, both

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Speaker 1: those teams played not to lose, Steelers Denver, both those

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Speaker 1: of been doing this all year, including against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, they've been fortunate enough to play not

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Speaker 1: to lose because the teams haven't threatened them enough, you know,

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Speaker 1: or teams that they're playing or playing outside their comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: They make one mistake or one safety Gambles and Rogers

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Speaker 1: sticks a dagger in your heart, right, and they haven't

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Speaker 1: had to play outside their comfort zone. Yeah, So that's

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Speaker 1: that's it's It's interesting. We'll see. I mean, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be some games down the road where Roethlisberger is going

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Speaker 1: to have to take more of those chances. I get

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Speaker 1: some interesting stats in regards to that. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: those when we come back. He is Matt Williamson. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lay. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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