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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, presented

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Speaker 1: by Windstuff where flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Here we go another week of football

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Speaker 1: practice and we let's go are bringing it to you live.

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Speaker 1: I am here at the Star and the s WBC

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Speaker 1: mortgage office of Derek Eagleton, once again, joined by my

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Speaker 1: co host Kurt Daniels, Nate Newton, Jesse. How are you

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Speaker 1: fellas doing? I'm doing great, man, I'm excited. But you

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Speaker 1: say taking the color? You got color? You got me, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: Kurt and checking the color baby, I'm geep me. And

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Speaker 1: they got original color. You got that spray tan color. Though,

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Speaker 1: I tell you what. We we got these sweet set

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Speaker 1: up for our podcast, for our show, since it looks

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Speaker 1: like we might be doing them from home for a

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Speaker 1: little bit. We got these nice fancy microphones. Chris, you

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Speaker 1: know Chris Beam dropped him off to us. Beam st

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Speaker 1: We got h We got these nice little lights and

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Speaker 1: I turned my light on right before we came on

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Speaker 1: the air, and I looked straight into it and I

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Speaker 1: still cannot see, Like that thing is bright and it's small.

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Speaker 1: It's only like that bigger round. I am struggling right now.

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Speaker 1: So so much to talk about. First off, did y'all

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Speaker 1: have a good weekend? How was yalls weekends? My week

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Speaker 1: you was good? Can I turn on my light? Good? Thing?

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Speaker 1: You got that Nate's broadcasting closet? Yes, sir, you better

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Speaker 1: know it. How about you, Jess? How Derek let you

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Speaker 1: back in there? Well, he doesn't know I'm in here,

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Speaker 1: so and he doesn't know what's missing. He didn't take

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Speaker 1: a good inventory. So if y'all, if y'all see something

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Speaker 1: behind me that you like, Um, if you see something

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Speaker 1: over there that you won't let me know, and I'll

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Speaker 1: i'll might be able to borrow it permanently. Take all

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Speaker 1: If he got into que doll paraphrom there, you take

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Speaker 1: that out of you. Oh no, you do not mess

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Speaker 1: with that stuff. You do not mess with that, Jess.

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Speaker 1: How you do it? Brother? I'm good man, had a

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Speaker 1: great weekend. I'm happy it's Monday. I got a little

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Speaker 1: joy inside of me. Read a good word this morning.

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Speaker 1: But when I got up and I'm ready, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to talk some football. Man. I'm happy. I'm always happy

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Speaker 1: to see you guys. Well, I'm wonderful to see you too,

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Speaker 1: jes Let's let's just get into it, man, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it out there. I know everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Are we getting this man or not

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Speaker 1: good idea or a bad idea? What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: The fans are going crazy. Cuss us out, come, cuss

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Speaker 1: us out. We need you well, you know stands. What

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Speaker 1: do you guys think signed him? Don't sign him? What

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Speaker 1: are you thinking? I'm letting Jesse go curse on that one? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm letting Kurt go first. You guys have seen practice,

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Speaker 1: may know better. But the report you're sounding like Clinton

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Speaker 1: Dix isn't playing very well and Darian Thompson could be

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Speaker 1: your second starting safety. I don't know, are you feeling

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Speaker 1: good about that one? Um? You know, Thomas sounds like

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot of baggage with him, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It better be a sweet, sweet deal for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you know, uh, you know, I've got to

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Speaker 1: see a few practices thanks to Nick eating and the guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and Derek though and uh, Shannon, you

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Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with it. But anyway, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think these coaches are liking Darien too.

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Speaker 1: He ran a lot Sunday with with with the first team. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But I heard him. I heard coach Nolan Holland some

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Speaker 1: positives at how Clinton Dick. So we'll see, man, the

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Speaker 1: competition is thick at a few positions and a few

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Speaker 1: positions I found out the competition ain't even what we

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Speaker 1: and uh speth on the young guys. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: they got thirty one in there, Treyvon Diggs, he's working. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, the other rookies, man, they just

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Speaker 1: getting in where they fit in at. But for me,

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Speaker 1: past before that when it comes to leadership, they don't

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Speaker 1: have the alpha dogs that Nate you had in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: right because we saw guys come in who's been here

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Speaker 1: in and said, hold on, young fellow. You know, hold on,

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Speaker 1: my guy. We appreciate you being here. But I do

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Speaker 1: the hooting hollerand around here, I tell folks who are

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Speaker 1: you're trying to get acclimated, guys, you're trying to bring

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Speaker 1: then I stay away from a guy like that, and

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Speaker 1: because it's much easier to get those guys to kind

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Speaker 1: Earl Thomas was doing in Baltimore. Uh. And so that's

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Speaker 1: And when you start showing up late and not being

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Speaker 1: you've fallen off a liit physically, but they wanted that

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Speaker 1: leadership that you brought in Seattle, that promptness, stood attention

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Speaker 1: the inside stir on that, but you took it too far.

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Speaker 1: So what you're telling the Ravens is your services are

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Speaker 1: no longer needed because they have a culture of toughness,

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Speaker 1: of doing the right thing, of playing great defense. Here

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Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. What I felt we lost over time, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: the voice in the room with the coaches. The coaches

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Speaker 1: here are trying to establish themselves and who they are.

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Speaker 1: They are the alpha males right now, and they will

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Speaker 1: let as this team go, they will find their own

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Speaker 1: Jimmy did. We when Jimmy got here, nobody was alt

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Speaker 1: for mail. But as time went on, the Emmett Smells,

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Speaker 1: that's what they want. They When you have a bad

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Speaker 1: report as a veteran player, especially one that's making a

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Speaker 1: of that money. No, you don't bring him here. And

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Speaker 1: I'm always be excited about a player. But does he

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Speaker 1: fit I don't think not right now. Maybe maybe coach

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Speaker 1: and my point, I mean, my point is exactly your point.

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Speaker 1: I guess I hadn't thought about it in terms of

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Speaker 1: the leadership aspect. But I mean they have some young

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence? Does he get affected by that? I just

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Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you guys, is that I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the talent there is worth it anymore. To potentially

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Speaker 1: disrupt what McCarthy's trying to build, what this defense is

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Speaker 1: something to prove and he wants to be a leader

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Speaker 1: in that, and according to reports, in practice, he's doing

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Speaker 1: exactly that. He's playing ball. So I would hate to

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Speaker 1: disrupt any of where this team has headed, what this

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Speaker 1: team is building by bringing in the guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: he left seat under bad terms and you know, apparently

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Speaker 1: got in a fight with a teammate in Baltimore and

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Speaker 1: like they said, you know, in late to practice and

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Speaker 1: all that, I mean not apparent, not apparently not yea,

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Speaker 1: not apparently. Yeah, but you don't. You just can't bring

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Speaker 1: Harbo and that that already established regime there can't control

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Speaker 1: or keep you know, they're him from affecting their locker room.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how a new one can either, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stepped in and you know, would would break down the huddle,

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Speaker 1: a really weird vibe because you had built this team

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Speaker 1: you do you remember? Well? I just had I had

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Speaker 1: But just from the first segment, two questions. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Then you have one question. Now you got two questions.

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Speaker 1: You hijacking the whole show. I'm just trying to set

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Speaker 1: you guys up to talk more. That's all so one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all this talk about Earl Thomas. The

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Speaker 1: flip side is are you worried about Clinton? Dis I

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Speaker 1: mean safety again, seems like it could be an issue.

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Speaker 1: And then along with that is Jalen. Well, let's let's

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Speaker 1: just start with that. I'll get to the other question later.

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Speaker 1: Are you worried at all about safety? Not right now?

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Speaker 1: I'm not not yet, not yet, nope, no, no, no, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's simple enough. I want to give these players with

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Speaker 1: I want to give these players with this this culture

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Speaker 1: staff and this culture staff with these players an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to show with something. Thank you you m all right?

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Speaker 1: I guess it's uh. The disadvantage though, is you're not

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Speaker 1: going to see something until you're what two three weeks

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Speaker 1: into the regular season and that preseason right about? What

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Speaker 1: what about Jayleen? Shannon? Scare you? What about Jayleen that

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Speaker 1: you have to ask that? Well? My other question about

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Speaker 1: Jayleen simply was this he I mean, you still got

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Speaker 1: some questions marks a linebacker with the vander Ess. You're

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Speaker 1: not sure what is health is going to be, shan

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Speaker 1: Lee haven't even practiced yet. And after that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're not sure what you have. You got some some

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Speaker 1: good role players and like Thomas, but is Jalen good

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Speaker 1: enough talent than he can kind of carry that group

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Speaker 1: or is that another troublesome spot. The talent of Jalen Smith.

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Speaker 1: We've seen flashes of it, right. We saw what he

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Speaker 1: was at Notre Dame pre injury. We saw him get

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Speaker 1: back post injury, and you see these magnificent, magnificent flashes

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Speaker 1: of a guy who can be sideline a sideline He's

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Speaker 1: built like someone put them together in the lab, and

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Speaker 1: you just want more consistency. It's always for me with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Can you be consistent? Can that talent? Can

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Speaker 1: that talent and productivity consistently meet and be on a

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Speaker 1: high level, Like Nate was saying about the safety play,

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Speaker 1: can you be on a high level seventy eight ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of the time. Yes, you're gonna make mistakes. This

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Speaker 1: is there's no perfect player that's ever played this game.

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Speaker 1: But you can't make the critical mistakes in situations consistently.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen that from Jaalen too often that in

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Speaker 1: moments where we need you to be correct, what we

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Speaker 1: need you to make the tackle, what we need you

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Speaker 1: to be in good coverage, you come up short and

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Speaker 1: then we see flashes of like, oh man, if we

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Speaker 1: can get that player right there, like the dude that

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Speaker 1: just ran from one hash mark to the sideline and

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Speaker 1: covered the receiver. Can we get that. That's the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing about Jail. It's the talent. We've seen flashes. But

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Speaker 1: in this league, especially being a starter, being a flash

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Speaker 1: and the playing pipe player is not something that we

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Speaker 1: can you can't depend on it. A coach can't depend

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Speaker 1: on it. A defense can't depend on it, the teammates

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Speaker 1: can't depend on it. And that's the kind of player

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Speaker 1: that keeps coaches up at night when saying, man is

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Speaker 1: the hell of a talent, But is he going to

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Speaker 1: be where he's supposed to be and do what he's

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Speaker 1: supposed to do every single time? That's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 1: See a guy that can make or break this defense? Yes, no, no, yes.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying no is I don't think

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Speaker 1: they'll let him. See he don't have the same and Jesse,

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Speaker 1: you can correct me, but I don't think he has

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Speaker 1: the same pool that he had last year. Well I

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Speaker 1: would say yes, he can hurt this team when you

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Speaker 1: missed three and four attackers the game, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I think I think they would take a shot with

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Speaker 1: who's who's who's coming up banging pretty good the last

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Speaker 1: few practices. By scene, I think they're like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: come on, come on, guy, this is your going into

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Speaker 1: your second year of starting. Come on, we expect better.

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Speaker 1: So but they're gonna have to give everybody three or

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Speaker 1: four games being no training camp for its preseason games,

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Speaker 1: no hard banging. They haven't had a scrimmage. They've done

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Speaker 1: they do they bang a little bit, but they didn't.

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Speaker 1: They an't. Nobody's smashing nobody. So I think they'll giv

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Speaker 1: him opportunity. But I don't think the ropist is loan

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Speaker 1: for any guy, you know, and maybe the money dictate

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Speaker 1: that it does, but I don't think these she just

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Speaker 1: want to go through that. So I'm saying And the

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Speaker 1: reason I say yes, I was just gonna say, Nate,

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff, if he has a bad you know,

583
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Speaker 1: two or three games in a row, they wouldn't hesitate

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Speaker 1: to bencham Yeah, to do something because if you if

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Speaker 1: you allow this what message Jery you're seeing, Okay, man,

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Speaker 1: you are untouchable, go ahead on do your thing. What

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Speaker 1: then you ask another guy, No, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna work that way. That's why I'm saying no, That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And the reason why I say yes

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Speaker 1: is because I think this culture staff, when you look

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Speaker 1: at Nolan and McCarthy, what they've done in the off

592
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Speaker 1: season has seen the flashes that we've all seen, and

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Speaker 1: they're saying, man, we're gonna put a lot on this

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Speaker 1: guy to produce in his third year, and if he

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Speaker 1: does it, then we are required now to do something

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Speaker 1: about it. And now you have to put guys in

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Speaker 1: who aren't used to being starters. That breaks your defense down.

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Speaker 1: And for me, like Jalen, playing at Jaalen's best consistently

599
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Speaker 1: can make this defense one that is unstoppable. Jalen not

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Speaker 1: being in there, and I'm having even putting one of

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Speaker 1: the guy the guy in the names that Nate just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Guys who aren't used to playing forty fifty snaps a game,

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Speaker 1: Guys who aren't used to going up against a Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: m A A Drew Brees, and they haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to hear those things happen, and they're now having to

606
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Speaker 1: learn on the run, which again hurts your defense because

607
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: you're getting to a crucial moment and because those players

608
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: haven't been putting those positions before. Those quarterbacks then abuse them,

609
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Speaker 1: those running backs then abusing those Titans don't abuse them

610
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Speaker 1: because they haven't been in it. So I think that's

611
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Speaker 1: why to make a break with Jalen that if he's good.

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Speaker 1: If he's good Jalen and on point Jalen and consistent Jalen,

613
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Speaker 1: this defense could be one that's unstoppable. If you have

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Speaker 1: to remove him from the field because he's just not

615
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: that guy, and you have to bring in one of

616
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Speaker 1: these guys who and now maybe you go get a

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Speaker 1: guy off the off the street to bring him in,

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Speaker 1: a veteran guy. I know the guy like in Philadelphia, Nigel.

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Speaker 1: He's an available linebacker guy. He's a guy who has

620
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Speaker 1: skins on the wall. But if you have to go

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Speaker 1: one of these other backup guys to be your starter,

622
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Speaker 1: that that that makes your defense, That puts a hole

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Speaker 1: in your defense more than it does anything else. I agree.

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Speaker 1: But but they but they're gonna try to use Jalen

625
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Speaker 1: in so many different ways to if this cat don't

626
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Speaker 1: be effective, I would be shocked. They're gonna try to

627
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Speaker 1: give him so many opportunities and put him in so

628
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Speaker 1: many positions to win. If he don't. Man, Wow, jes

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Speaker 1: don't don't even go there, brother, go there. Man, You're

630
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Speaker 1: you're telling the truth. Now he's telling the truth. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're gonna give him ever opportunity and

632
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Speaker 1: put him in so many positions to win. They are

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Speaker 1: they are I just realized yesterday. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: because I guess because it's such a weird year and

635
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Speaker 1: we're kind of in a holding pattern on a lot

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00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: of things, and we're trying to wait see how things

637
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: shake out, and you know, from a you know, just

638
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: a I guess an operational standpoint, You know, Kurt, are

639
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: we going to be in the office next week? Are

640
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: we going to get to do this? And that that

641
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the seasons in three weeks fellas

642
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: like the season starts in three weeks twenty days. You

643
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: start thinking, Lyell cam Irving, Sehwan Lee haven't practiced yet,

644
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith is out, Jordan Lewis might not practice this week.

645
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: You know, doesn't sound like any really significant injuries, but

646
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: a lot of time getting missed in the seasons only

647
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: three weeks away. Are you guys worried about prep times

648
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: and having enough time on the field and the new

649
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: coaching staff and everybody messing together? Is that is that

650
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: something to be worried about or is all that going

651
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: to take care of itself and kind of come out

652
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: to the wash. When you start playing football here in

653
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: a few weeks, you know, done, Terrrio Poe is limited,

654
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: Griffin is Everson. Griffin is just getting back into the

655
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: groove and he's got a little team work the other day.

656
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Uh they should everybody should be okay. Everybody should be

657
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: okay because after this week passed, then you start slightly

658
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: stopped prepping for you your first game. Ain't getting everybody ramped. Yes,

659
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: it's because they's a player. Everybody's as long as Tyron

660
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: Smith got legs and can run, as long as uh,

661
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, let's play that Cam Urban. We don't need

662
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: him anytime soon. Uh done, Terrio Pole, We're gonna need

663
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: And I saw him, he shotting the ramp up. He

664
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: went from a baby crawl to you know, I said,

665
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: man put a poke chop Sammich out in front of him.

666
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: Hill sprint. But uh, I mean they they are moving

667
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: these guys, Brent Daniels and Jim Meyer and these guys,

668
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: they're doing the right things to strength. They're just slowly

669
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: ramping these guys up. It's it's much like college. Our

670
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: bodies kind of get older. And Jess can talk about this,

671
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: but it's just like college. You older than me. You

672
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: tell us, Yeah, not what I'm saying. I'm the youngest

673
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: one of the group. MYO, I got rusty, got rusty.

674
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: You look like a young Bob Marley. But anyway, but

675
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's like college. You've been some losses.

676
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: I've been to college, Joa. You know it's safe for you.

677
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: But these guys gotta sign a cold turk and get

678
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: out there. So they gotta have a scrimmage or two.

679
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: They gotta bang up a little bit this week. I'm

680
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: maybe sunning out to be the last day and all

681
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you take off from that, bro,

682
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one hundred miles an hour. So they

683
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: ramping exactly that two week window. As a player, that

684
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: two weeks, Yeah, there is enough to get ready. The

685
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: thing about this is everybody has to do it. Ain't

686
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: nobody got advantage. It's it's certain teams that's dealing with

687
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: the COVID more than others that's being held out. There's

688
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: some guys that are injured. Being that we don't know

689
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: about these season. We're not We don't get these beats

690
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: on our phones and then on our desktops and computers.

691
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: The way we were last year. Hey man, remember Jessica say, hey, fellas,

692
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: guess what just happened? You know, he would break in like, bro, oh,

693
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: we just gotta break this team. This guy ain't practicing

694
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: to day. You know, we don't have that. We don't

695
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: have an injury report that you give, Kurt, so we

696
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: don't know what it's truly going on with the rams,

697
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: you know. So I'll say this to your point, Kurt is,

698
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: it's two weeks enough time to get ready for a

699
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: football game? Yeah, player, Yes, okay? Is it enough to

700
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: get a player ready to perform at his highest level

701
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: in a football game? No? No, no, no, Now what

702
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: you hope is, here's here's your hope. Your hope is

703
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: that I can take this time to get said player

704
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: ready for or the game, and then within that game,

705
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: I have to be able to schematically do things to

706
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: protect him, to see what his strimps are right now,

707
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: and then use those and hopefully, whether it's offense or defense,

708
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: that I've built up enough of a lead where now

709
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: I can do things that doesn't put us in a

710
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: very compromising, persistent position when you're talking about the fourth quarter,

711
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: because yeah, everybody's hyped up and up juiced up for

712
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: the you know, from the start of the game and

713
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: your emotions are on high, but then then reality begins

714
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: to hit and that second to half that to happen

715
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: third quarter. Now your lungs are burning and your legs

716
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: a little bit heavy, and now you start to feel

717
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: the effects them not practicing all off season. And so

718
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: that's Can your player be ready to play a game

719
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: in two weeks? Yes, Canny be ready to be at

720
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: his optimal, top tier self in two weeks, that's a no.

721
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: And it's going to take a lot of finagling between

722
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: schematics and uh scoring and whether not on the side

723
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: of the ball they're on. If we're up, we're up.

724
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I can do things in a more conservative way, but

725
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to get to the fourth quarter. Now

726
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm depending on my left tackle to hold up against

727
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron my left guard, whoever to hold up

728
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: against Aaron Donald William you know right, you know, I

729
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: don't I don't want. I don't want my guys to

730
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: have to be trying to go up against someone who's

731
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: at their optimum prime and they're not. It's a three

732
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: or five offensive linement may not be at their Prime.

733
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: That's that's w Yeah, that's worried. Something expecting when you

734
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: talk about going up against a guy like Aaron Donald

735
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: and Brockers and other players on that Rams defense. I'm

736
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: parting that you Kurt on my screen. You know what

737
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: man for you? You're bringing Frat house down and duomy

738
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: globe doom globe God you brought. You've been rounding this

739
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: game long enough. I'm trying to learn happy about Jesse.

740
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: You always pascified Kurts, so happy about pacify Kurt Kurt

741
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: and not pacify its bat man because he delivered wings.

742
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: That's right, don't forget it. That's about all I come

743
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: through with. We are having at guacamole. We need to

744
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: get on now. We're gonna take our last break. When

745
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: we come back, one of us was at practice yesterday.

746
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: We'll find out who it was and what they saw,

747
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: who impressed them, who didn't, and what they're excited about

748
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,520
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Speaker 1: Shannon screamed something about exploding diarrhea. And ran out of

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796
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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get my twenty seconds in. It

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00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,400
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799
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Speaker 1: were you at practice yesterday? I was not? Jesse? Were

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Speaker 1: you at practice yesterday? I was not. I wasn't at

808
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: practice either. I'm still I'm still winning on my my

809
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: practice pass. Who do I have to call by? Called Jerry,

810
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: probably called Derek Jerry and called Nick Eatman because Nate

811
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: did and Nate got to go to practice yesterday. Hey,

812
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: right man, it was nice man, different right, Yeah, to

813
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: get to see these guys move around. Uh they don't,

814
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: they don't. They got a whole jess. When you go

815
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: see you can be like, this ain't the same practice

816
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: We've been seeing it for ten years. A lot of

817
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: the one on ones and two twos are gone. Maybe

818
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: it's the COVID situation, but you get a lot of teamwork,

819
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: a lot of three on threes, a lot of half lines,

820
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterlines. I mean they do a lot

821
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: of situational stuff. I mean it's way different way in

822
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: the temple. You know, maybe if it's cause it's a

823
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: new coach or whatever. But the tempo is up, but

824
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: just a touch, just a not as tempo is a

825
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: people are moving faster and faster, you know, Uh, the

826
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: in between breaks way to have the challenges and all

827
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: of that. You know, the music us almost none existent.

828
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: They want people knowing what to do and here here

829
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: and and execute and so practice is nice, man, practice

830
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 1: practice is nice. Uh. There's some guys out there showing it. Man,

831
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: who's Wilson's showing who? Yeah? Who were some guys Wilson

832
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: You didn't expect that you saw? Cedric was one of them. Yes, sir,

833
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: he's showing it. And believe it or not, the guy

834
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: that we've been critical of, Tristan Hill, it's putting a

835
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: little pressure up the middle. He had a bad bad Yeah.

836
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: And Gallamore is trying to do his thing. And I'm

837
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: telling you, man, and I know they have a hit.

838
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: But Tyrone Crawford is looking fluid in his work, individual work,

839
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about when the when the just the

840
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: D line is working together, working on Damon's hidden He's

841
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: looking nice. Alden Smiths is uh he just wow. I mean,

842
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: I am. I saw him a couple of times in

843
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: the run situations, not in the past situations. He's he's

844
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: heavy handed, you know. Uh, he looks good. Uh six

845
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: four six five two eighty. He looks good. Uh done. TERRYO.

846
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: Poe is working back in. Evan Griffin is working back in.

847
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to talk about all the formations, but

848
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: but they got some defensively, they got some things that

849
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: are working. Jalen is running like, uh, like a bat

850
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: out of you know what, bro, He's doing his thing.

851
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: He looks good. He stood out to me. He looks

852
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: really good in coverage like he looks yeah, really good coverage. Yeah.

853
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: And secondary wise, man, they look okay because the receivers

854
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: are doing it. The quarterbacks are doing it. The first

855
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: team quarterback. I had to look at the second team quarterback.

856
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: They're all are doing it. They seem to seem to

857
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: have the advantage as of right now. They get a

858
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: few picks here there, they break on the ball pretty good.

859
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: But the offense is basically to me, it's been winning

860
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: and so I think it's a backs look okay, it's

861
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna actually uh take I think games for us to

862
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: see how good they have been. Because Amari Cooper, you

863
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: know nice uh that young kids the first round pick,

864
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: lamb ceedee, lamb. Man, he is smoothed. You know when

865
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: I heard people say, oh, man, he looked at party,

866
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: looked the role. He does a gallop, had a drop

867
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: or two in the practice. I was there, but he

868
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: was all over the field making catches. Noah Brown is

869
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: trying to make it make a bid for this thing.

870
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: And so now what I want to say is this

871
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: right here. Your left guard's Connor Williams, and that's your

872
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: left guard. Your center is Lunar and that's your center.

873
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: The other guys they get the practice when those guys

874
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: decide they don't want to practice. Other than that, I

875
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: don't see no competition. And that's why I was trying

876
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: to tell y'all offer earlier. And the only one that's

877
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: competition is thirty one because he's starting. You know what

878
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Dig Trayman, he's starting, So that's your competition.

879
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb is your third receiver. That that ain't no competition.

880
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 1: But on but on our offensive line, they are being

881
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: smart and by saying we ain't in, ain't no competition,

882
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: these guys ain't ready for the NFL. And not if

883
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: the Rams are first opponent, because but Aaron Donald would

884
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: do to them rookies, they would ruin them and we

885
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: won't have them very long. You know said, hey, yeah,

886
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: you've said before that that the defensive line can only

887
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: get better because they're facing such a great offensive line

888
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: in practice all the time. I said, I said the

889
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: opposite way the offensive line is getting better because the

890
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: defensive line. Yeah, at that particular time when they had McCoy,

891
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: Pole Smith Lawrence, Yeah, I thought those dringer guys on

892
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: the offensive line who were trying to get reps that

893
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: I said they would get better because of that, Right,

894
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: that's I assume that's got to work the same with

895
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: the receivers right in the cornerbacks, I mean, our our

896
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or that's such a seems like you need a

897
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: lot of confidence to play that position. I mean, I'm

898
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: assuming they're not getting their confidence knocked down a peg

899
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: or two here. They're actually getting better from from maybe

900
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: getting burned. And let me say this right twenty seven

901
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: seventeen baby sharpness iron Yeah, that's how you gotta do

902
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: it better. This. You gotta be cutting to get some

903
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: good stuff right there, man, to get yourself sharp. These

904
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: guys are not making the catches that these receivers are

905
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: making are nice catches. It ain't in their contested catches,

906
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping that their mindset and their mental

907
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: makeup is okay, okay, Yeah, this dude had to make

908
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: a great play to get this, you know, And so

909
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: they do make their fair share amount of plays, you know,

910
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: but you know, as an offense, you always say, what

911
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: do we remember, Yeah, do we remember that bat down?

912
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: Or do we remember that old man? This dude, we

913
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: just caught one between two players. So we always gonna

914
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: glorify the offense on that one catch. You can have

915
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: nineteen great bat downs and all of a sudden, that

916
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: Waine catch for a first down on the one yard

917
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: line's the grettest thing in the world. So did everybody's

918
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: playing well? The office in line, Uh, they look nice,

919
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: They've been practicing well, but but uh they much you

920
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: can do against Alden as a backup. Alden crushed the backup.

921
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: Demarkus rons crushed the backup. I mean, I'm like, what,

922
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: what what do we expect here? If they was handling

923
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: needs to god, we'd be like, oh my god, I deep,

924
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: this is in trouble. Right. Did you did you notice

925
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: that the backup quarterback is getting a lot more reps

926
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: than in previous years. Did that kind of stand out

927
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: to you? That's one thing that I kind of absolutely

928
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: and were getting. Yeah, and end the receiver would be in.

929
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw the first team thirteen fourteen, They're gonna

930
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: throw the end of receiver. So anybody can be in

931
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: bend newtie got a lot of work, especially before practice.

932
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: They kid pretty fast, he pretty fat. But I know

933
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: whether they ain't what we were about. But he can throw.

934
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: It's that. That's the That's the history of Mike McCarthy.

935
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has been known to develop quarterbacks. So you know,

936
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: I can't develop guys if they're standing back, they're holding

937
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: the clipboards. This is my time of development. This is

938
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: my time to see what guys know, what they can do,

939
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: and how I can kind of get get them ready

940
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: in the event that something happens to dak. That is

941
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: the That is the history of who Mike McCarthy is

942
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: of getting and developing quarterbacks all across the board. He uh,

943
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you they'd be out there before practice.

944
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks office line deepens line. They were out there

945
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: thirty minutes before. Everybody seemed like working working their craft,

946
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: working their craft, and they went through some simulations of

947
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: two minutes they was working. Man, the quarterbacks are lining

948
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: up at the receivers and they and they calling it.

949
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I see DA telling to dude, move off,

950
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: move off, Like what the world you know, he had

951
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: the slide. You know what I'm saying. So I hope

952
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: I ain't getting getting the trouble by saying that. But anyway,

953
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Jesse, when you go out there, I

954
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: know you use a Twitter freak. Don't do it. Don't

955
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: tweet doing the price run. I'm gonna I'm not gonna

956
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: have my privileges were voting, man, because almost yeah, I

957
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: almost twitted something Clarien Hill. I was saying, hey, man,

958
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 1: what you twitt I'm like, I'm tweeting my wife. Man, Okay, yeah,

959
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I haven't I haven't

960
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: seen enough of Denucci to to have an opinion on it.

961
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: But he throws a good looking ball. Man. I don't

962
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: know if it always yes, hepposed to, but I mean

963
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: he's got a that ball looks good when it comes out. Man,

964
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: it's it's a good looking tight spiral. So all of

965
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: those guys, I mean, yeah, I'm with you, Shannon, all

966
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: of those guys man, Dad, Clayton, Thornson, Uh, Denucci all

967
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: up and the Dalton is throwing some nice balls. And

968
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: uh but you know, ain't nobody coming, ain't no multiple coverages.

969
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: So we don't see it seems like that fourth wide

970
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: receiver spot, it looks like it's it's down to Cedric

971
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: Wilson or no People Brown. Yes, question about Noah Brown.

972
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: It seems like, and Jesse, you've been around the league

973
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: a lot, or does every team kind of take on

974
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: a project and have like a pet cat that they

975
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: keep around. It seems like Noah Brown is kind of

976
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: that project that we haven't really seen a whole lot.

977
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: You know, why do they keep him around? It seems

978
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: like Rico Gathers was that project. It seems like they

979
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: they've always had a guy that that that they you know,

980
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: they keep around a little bit longer than the fans

981
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: would like to see, or like kind of a head scratcher.

982
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: What what causes a team? Are the Cowboys unique in

983
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: that or do all teams have that guy that they

984
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: just don't want to give up on and keep him around.

985
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: I think all teams have that. And what makes Dallas

986
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 1: a situation, especially now, is it's a guy like Noah

987
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: Brown who you like and you think may have talent,

988
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: who can help you out at some point in time,

989
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: is where do we play him? Like you have so

990
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: many other guys that you want to get the ball too,

991
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: is that you can't even find space for a Noah Brown.

992
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: So the best thing that you try to do is

993
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: you try to keep him on your roster, continue to

994
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: develop him because you're gonna say, at some point in time,

995
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna probably need a guy like this, and we

996
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: know that he has the skill set to compete. Not

997
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: as a starter, but you get reps in a starting

998
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: position and in the event that we may lose somebody

999
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: or trade somebody, or something happens to somebody. Now we

1000
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: have guys on our roster where the drop off isn't

1001
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: such a large drop off. It's just you know, it's

1002
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a Dropta from Amari, but it ain't gonna

1003
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: be Niagara Fall drop off. It may be a little

1004
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: bit of a bop and we can still go out

1005
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: there and compete. But that's all across the board. And

1006
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: I mean, we look at a guy last year in

1007
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Greg Ward, who was around hanging around, you know,

1008
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: practice squad, got and came in and all of a

1009
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: sudden he was there. You know, there's always guys that

1010
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: they have on their practice squad and you know, kind

1011
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: of tucked away on their roster, just trying to develop them,

1012
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: trying to groom them, trying to grow them in the

1013
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: event that they need them or when it's time for

1014
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: them to get out there and play. They're already in

1015
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: the system. They already know what to do. Now I

1016
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: can just insert them and we can keep going forward. See.

1017
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: But I think, Jesse, the difference is in these coaches

1018
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: if they keep those guys. Unlike in the past, we

1019
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: would keep a guy like that and we would never

1020
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: see production. But I've known McCarthy to keep quarterbacks and

1021
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: receivers and all would saying. You'd be like, whoa where's

1022
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: this guy? Men? And you sit there production DeVante Adams

1023
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. That's a guy. Davanta Adams was that guy.

1024
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: He was a guy they tucked away and developed and

1025
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: developed and developed, and all of a sudden, around you're saying, well,

1026
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: damn vont Adams one of the top ten receivers in

1027
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: the league. Whered he come from? Well? He was a

1028
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: guy that and they kept tucked away and he got

1029
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: his chance to go out there and Seane, thank you, Jesse,

1030
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: You're great. You're great, Jess. Is it just trying to

1031
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: earn my ten dollars, man, I said, is it is

1032
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: it too early? I know, I know in training camp,

1033
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: if we were all out in California, we would we

1034
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: would have a guy or two that we could say, hey,

1035
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: don't be surprised if this guy makes the roster. Kind

1036
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: of a dark horse candidate to make the roster. I

1037
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: know you guys are or even though we're not able

1038
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: to get out to practice, y'all are still and you

1039
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: still have sources, um that we may be surprised that

1040
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: we love a dark horse guy. Nate. I mean you,

1041
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: if you've been there more than anybody else, what do

1042
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: you think about about that? You know? Once, once we

1043
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: get on the linebackers, man, I don't know how many

1044
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: they're keeping, you know, but everybody's housing that Francis Bernard.

1045
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: I saw him make a few plays. He's a hustle

1046
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: type guy. He's built pretty good. Uh. And once again, uh,

1047
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: just watching these guys, man, A lot of guys look good,

1048
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: but uh, it's gonna be good what the scouts think.

1049
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: The scout's gonna play a major role in trying to say, okay,

1050
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: this is what we see, how do you like this guy?

1051
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Speaker 1: Because they're gonna be able to have, They're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a list of guys that are gonna be coming back

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Speaker 1: further earliest guys get the virus or get injured. This

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Speaker 1: list is bigger, the practice squad is bigger. So it's

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Speaker 1: just hard to say. Man, you know what, they really

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Speaker 1: don't want to speak in on bubble guys. They say

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Speaker 1: the here, they really know what you're speaking on. But

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Speaker 1: I'm but I am gonna say that. Friends. And Bernard

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Speaker 1: is a nice living kid. He's got a lot of

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Speaker 1: buds so far, let's for sure. He said yes, yes, yeah, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Darian Darian Thompson. I ain't the way he sided at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. But as Kurt see it

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Speaker 1: earlier before we got there, they're liking this guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's getting some starting reps. Sounds like yeah yeah, with

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Speaker 1: Clinton disks struggling. So well, boys, it's uh, it's noon.

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Speaker 1: We've done our hour. I guess uh, Shannon had raised

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Speaker 1: it up, Jess floating, let's do it. I'm back, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: I'm back. My phone dropped out. You know, Kurt, I

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Speaker 1: did not have diarrya to begin with. I had to

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Speaker 1: I had to go number one. But thank you for

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Speaker 1: thanks for thinking that I had Diarrya. But you know what, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: why don't you, why don't you bring bringing home today?

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Speaker 1: Take us, take us home, fearless leader. You got on.

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Speaker 1: No get Mama Gross to bring it home one time. Man,

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Speaker 1: come on, need to get Mama Gross back on the show.

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Speaker 1: So Kurt, take it home, sign us off, brother, take

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Speaker 1: us naga. Kurt. Hey, Shannon, thanks for you know, staying

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Speaker 1: with us through all your troubles over there. I hope,

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Speaker 1: I hope Derek's office is going one piece. Jesse, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: sir for bringing bringing the hot takes. Always appreciated. Nates.

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Speaker 1: Always glad you snuck into the practice. I hope you

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Speaker 1: can keep doing it. Yes, sir, Baby Grace, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back. Thank you the fans for listening. No

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Next, no love for Chris Beam, no love

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Speaker 1: for baby Chris. We appreciate it. We will be back

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Speaker 1: next Monday, eleven am. We'll see it in on Hanging

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Speaker 1: with the Hanging with the boys, see you boys, hanging

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Speaker 1: with them. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.