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Speaker 1: going on. They've got some airborne stuff going on, talking

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Speaker 1: he is cooler than a huge umber. He really is. Okay,

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Speaker 1: today I'm going to do something that I said I

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Speaker 1: right wing uprising, if that's the right word. Now. I

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Speaker 1: how this is, how this is coming across to us.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing that is so secretive and locked

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Speaker 1: How are you? Wendy? All right? It's really strange interview

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Speaker 1: I know what it is about. Yet you either you

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Speaker 1: can be either really high or really bad moods. There's

429
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Speaker 1: no do have mood swings your neck your neck, you

430
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Speaker 1: proper neck, like a neck like ten times worse it is,

431
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Speaker 1: I get and the other do you know what needs

432
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Speaker 1: to annoy me? And this is the main thing that

433
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: we've ever argued about is the kids. Is our children.

434
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Speaker 1: With the nature of the work that I've done, I

435
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: would always try and be friends to the children when

436
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: I come home, But obviously you've got to try and

437
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: discipline them at the same time. And this is when

438
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: lips curling Already, I put a punch up on the

439
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: software for the first time, all right, And I would

440
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: try and be a friend that the kids and probably

441
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Speaker 1: not tell them off or discipline them as heavily as

442
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Speaker 1: I did my son because I had him a lot

443
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Speaker 1: more when he was younger. In hindsight, it was probably

444
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: a mistake not to do that. But when you're working

445
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: away so much and you come home, you don't want

446
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: to be the villain when you come home, yet to

447
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: back your miss his abruptly, perhaps you need to be

448
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: the villain. And that was art. I think the biggest

449
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: thing that we argued about with the kids was black money,

450
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Like you would just give them money and I would

451
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: say that they have to do something to earn that money. Yeah,

452
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be home long enough for them to

453
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Speaker 1: get into that sort of routine with me. So I

454
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Speaker 1: just want to see happy one a moment, and if

455
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: I spend a bit of the will lend the mantenna

456
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: or whatever, then that to me was like, you know,

457
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: I could forego because I haven't really had the back chat,

458
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I think I definitely more.

459
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say strict, I'm hard, and I think that

460
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: would if we look at it in that respect. The

461
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: hardest thing of being in a relationship like this is

462
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: bringing your kids up, bringing two families to government. You've

463
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: got to children and notoriously, and we do have a

464
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: ginger one as well, so we have a change that

465
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: child and and I do, let her know. She said,

466
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: you can, right, yeah, So that that was the hardest thing,

467
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: really hard, just fat money. Like in the situation if

468
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: we haven't got it, we're not bothered about money, but

469
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Speaker 1: I do because if we haven't got it, you can't

470
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Speaker 1: spend it. And we got it spend kids. And I'm

471
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: like that, which is how it is, you know what

472
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean. So we've never we've never massively. I think

473
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Speaker 1: I gave up chasing the dollar years ago because you know,

474
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Speaker 1: it doesn't make you any happier, and you need to

475
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: be happy with the work that you're doing. So you know,

476
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: you might not earn as much as you did, but

477
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: so long as you're happy, I think that's the that's

478
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: the main thing for me. That's why I do what

479
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: I do. Now, alright, let's let's swing fire, and let's

480
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: talk about when I came out at the closet with

481
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: in respect to when I was reviewed, the book went

482
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Speaker 1: viral born Furness did extremely well. Then I started appearing

483
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: on Sky News and I made documentaries and a lot

484
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: of stuff I did online, and our life did change

485
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: slightly because I couldn't do so much of the security

486
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: stuff purely because so many people do recognize me now,

487
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: so you found that difficulty difficult actually, And we've had

488
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Speaker 1: we've had some major trolling online. So we've had some

489
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: real you know, I've done a couple of things online

490
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: which we've upset one side or the other. And we've

491
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: had some real trovels, haven't we going back? Like I

492
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: remember when you sort of did to Burken, you know,

493
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: you were getting noticed. Do you ever remember we everywhere

494
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: we went here people would recognize Phil and he would

495
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: be chatting away and I had to put him up

496
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: one day and I said, hey, Phil, you know you

497
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: start talking to we go out together, you start talking

498
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: to people, and I'm left there. You never even introduced me.

499
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: And remember, yeah, you know it could get you could

500
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: get insolent because I felt like I wasn't used to

501
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: people recognizing me and jumping all over me and wanting

502
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: to speak to you and shake your hand and say hello.

503
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: And you can become very focused on that as opposed

504
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: to what you would be doing normally, which you know

505
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: It's been difficult, wasn't it. But I think for you,

506
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: the worst thing has been the troubling because I've got skin,

507
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: I've got made you can say it to me what

508
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: you want, but unless you're prepared to bring your gumshield

509
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: and meet me somewhere, I don't care what you say.

510
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean about you online? And

511
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: I get your idea, get very upset because that is

512
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: not film. No, we've had some real keyboard mentality. Mentality.

513
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's something I would never get

514
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: used to. It's hard to take, you know, I know,

515
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: I know Brandon's had a bit of it. I've had

516
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Speaker 1: some of it. I would imagine anybody that sticks their

517
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: head up about you can't keep everybody happy all of

518
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: the time. So no matter you know, and the more

519
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: people that know you, probably the more abuse you're going

520
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: to get because there's always going to be a percentage

521
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: of element the people. One thing we don't get is

522
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: screaming hords of women after me. But we have had

523
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: the odd We have had the odd one. How do

524
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: you because Wendy's mental. Wendy's absolutely ridiculously barking mad, probably

525
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: more barking mad than I when it comes to when

526
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: it comes to infidelity off the scale, but yeah, I'm detected.

527
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: What's high? Go on and tell them az Oh, well,

528
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, give me a number, give me your email.

529
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: And Phil has just said you have to just ignore it,

530
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: and you do. I just find it. You know, if

531
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Speaker 1: they know that he's with someone, why would you even

532
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: do that someone's husband. That's me. I'm very old fashioned. Yeah,

533
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: now I suppose so people take liberties online, don't they.

534
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: People say stuff online that they wouldn't say to your face.

535
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: And and you are crazy, absolutely bonkers, bonkers barker. I

536
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: could put them off you quite quick. Yes, I'm sure

537
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: you could take them to the dark side. No, that

538
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: would be that been quite barking. So the plus side

539
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: of a fine that we've done the dark side of it,

540
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: we've done that. We've met some tremendous people, haven't we

541
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: We've met celebrities we would never have met. We've met

542
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: some tremendously normal people that we would ever have been invited.

543
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: We've been invited to some places. I mean, we h

544
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: dinner that was just yeah. Yeah, We've been all sorts

545
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: of different places with v I ped up to the

546
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: max by some people. You know, we've been hosted by generals.

547
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: That's been incredible. That's been an absolute you know, that's

548
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: the real that's the plus side of what of what

549
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: it is that? Yeah? For me, it's that's kind of

550
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: like it doesn't even matter if you you have lots

551
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: of money. We have done things that you have you

552
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: can't money. You can't buy some of the stuff you do.

553
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean, dinner on HMS Victory at the same place

554
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: when Nelson had stood in the same mess where Nelson

555
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: would have been drinking is a crazy thing to do,

556
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, in your mess stress. That's one thing that

557
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: you'll probably you can't buy that one of it. Yeah,

558
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the nicest things we've ever

559
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: done is when Perry got commissioned at Sandhurst, and I

560
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: always just stood there and I was just like, this

561
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: is so nice, isn't that. Yeah, Perry became an officer

562
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: in the British Army. Just for those that don't understand Perry,

563
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: but my son became my oldest son, our eldest son,

564
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: became an officer in the British Army and was commissioned

565
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: at Sanders. We went to his commission in Pray. We

566
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: subsequently that evening stayed and went to his commissioning ball,

567
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: which is quite unusually. Not a lot of parents stayed,

568
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: did they but we were just found ourselves pinching ourselves

569
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: that we were in this thing, you know what I mean?

570
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: It was It was crazy. Even if my mate Roger

571
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: from the Parachute Regiment did end up black eye for

572
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: sending when he should have been receiving, done a lot

573
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: of good things together. Yeah, there was a lot of

574
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: cool stuff and a lot of cool stuff. Still enjoyable life,

575
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: isn't I've never con clean about that. But it's not

576
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: always been easy. And I think, well, I take when

577
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I speak to young ones about relationships and all that

578
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. You have to have the n gu

579
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: the never give up attitude. You have to take it.

580
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: You have to work with relationships. It's not something that

581
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: just lands on your lap. And military relationships or operator

582
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: style relationships. And if you go you know the way

583
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: I've gone, and it turns into you know, people actually

584
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: analyzing you as a person and your family to some extent,

585
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: it control all sorts of issues. And I came from

586
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: just totally different wows really didn't. So it's been a yeah, no,

587
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: it's still we're still rolling. So then we all right,

588
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave it unless you got anything else.

589
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: He wants to but because when he's normally got something

590
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: else to say, it's very unusual for Wendy not to

591
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: have the last word. And in terms of Google, I

592
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: don't need it because she knows everything. So I am

593
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: a lucky man. Right there you go. So when I'm

594
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna cut Wendy frets, he's going to disappear.

595
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: That was something I'd said I wouldn't do, but I

596
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: think I think you'll agree with me it was worth doing. Um, well,

597
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: you chatt, We chatted about this sort of stuff before

598
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: between each other, and honestly, like I said, there's there's

599
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: there's always more pros and there are than there are

600
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: cons when it comes to our relationship, and so long

601
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: as it stays that way, well you're gonna have a

602
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: bumpy ride sometimes, but at the end of the day,

603
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: you're doing what's best for each other. And that's our

604
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: relationships work, whether you're an operator or not, to be honest,

605
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: So that brings me to let's have a let's have

606
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: a last rundown through soft reap. Let's have a look

607
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: at what's going on. Like I said, you've got the

608
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: African Special Forces exercise going on, You've got the airborne stuff.

609
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: You've got loads of pictures of a day, so get

610
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: yourself along the soft reap dot com. Have a good

611
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: butchers at what's going on. Don't forget the Create Club.

612
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: Create Club was doing some really cool things. And just

613
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: before we close, I'll tell you what I'm going to do.

614
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you two minutes worth of Prince Harry

615
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: this week. And we know Prince Harry has been in

616
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: all sorts of bother about him and his missus wanting

617
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: to move to Canada, do this, that and the other

618
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: and not be part of the fold anymore, although they

619
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: promised to pay back any money that they're perceived to

620
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: evolde from their wedding in their houses and orders of

621
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: the stuff, which is honorable to me. And don't forget

622
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: Harry is a two tour operator himself, having flown apaches

623
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: in a rat in someone in story in Afghanistan in

624
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: some of the most difficult and challenging operations that they did.

625
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: So he's no, he's no crow, he's no lunaty, he's

626
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: no sort of like he was a royal family book.

627
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: He went to war. That man went to war and

628
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: he flew a helicopter which does one thing goes to battle. Okay,

629
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: So don't get me wrong when I say Prince Harry

630
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: went to battle in a helicopter, all right. He went

631
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: in a helicopter that did not He didn't wasn't a

632
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: troop carrier, It wasn't a it wasn't a supplies helicopter.

633
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: He went to war in a helicopter which was designed

634
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: to go and fight people. Right. So two tours he did,

635
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: two very energetic tours, will call them, okay, very busy

636
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: tours to you, all right. So I've got a lot

637
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: of respect for the man. He wears his medals on

638
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: his chest. He earned his medals on his chest, all right,

639
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: not like some of the other royals you get, who

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Speaker 1: didn't do probably as much as he did. The medals

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Speaker 1: he's got on his chest he's an all right. The

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Speaker 1: Afghan medal is there because he went to Afghanistan and

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Speaker 1: he fought, all right. So I've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: respect for the man straightaway. A lot of these people

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Speaker 1: cutting into him for being a royal are probably a

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Speaker 1: little bit out of order in my opinion, But who

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Speaker 1: am I? Okay, So this week I just thought i'd

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Speaker 1: mentioned this because this week for the very first time,

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Speaker 1: he did a mission up in Scotland. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was some sort of talk about the environment or

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Speaker 1: something up there. So he's still doing his bits and pieces.

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Speaker 1: He dropped a lot of his royal work, but there

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Speaker 1: he goes, that's up to him. Anyway, he went to

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Speaker 1: Scotland for the very first time this went and normally

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Speaker 1: he's introduced as his Royal Highness, the Duke of this,

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Speaker 1: the Duke and out there, this that and the other.

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Speaker 1: But this time he said he just wanted to be

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Speaker 1: introduced pure and simply as Harry. So for the very

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Speaker 1: first time this week when they introduced him, the lady

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Speaker 1: on the mike says, I'd like to introduce to you

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Speaker 1: and give very warm Scottish welcome to Harry. And I

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Speaker 1: thought that was really nice, because you know, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, he is Harry. He's Diana's son,

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Speaker 1: all right, so you know you can you can, you

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Speaker 1: can beat him with the royal stick. He didn't want

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Speaker 1: to do that. He wanted to do his own thing.

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Speaker 1: He's happy with his misses. Who can knock the man.

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Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going to knock him, all right. If

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Speaker 1: he wanted to come back into the fold one day

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Speaker 1: would be more than welcome. He still is the figurehead

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Speaker 1: for many military type related charities. The victor's games are

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Speaker 1: just going to go away. You'll still be behind that.

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Speaker 1: So he's still doing his bits and pieces. He just

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Speaker 1: wants a bit of slack for himself. He's not in

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Speaker 1: line to the throne or anything like that, so why

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Speaker 1: shouldn't the man enjoy his life? And fair play to you, Harry,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening boss, well done, mate, you do your

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Speaker 1: bits and pieces. And actually if you've dropped to your titles,

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Speaker 1: but don't have to call your boss anymore, so I'll

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Speaker 1: call you Harry as well. Well done, Harry good Man.

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Speaker 1: There you go. So on that note, as I've said,

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Speaker 1: don't forget check out all the other stuff on soft up,

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Speaker 1: check out the stuff on craip clubs and really cool

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