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Speaker 1: officials are confident that they may have dodged a bullet there.

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Speaker 1: They better hope so, because otherwise that plane ride home

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Speaker 1: is going to be using a lot of barf bags.

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Speaker 1: And then there was another bit of Dolphins news. Head

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Speaker 1: coach Mike McDaniel said outside linebacker Andrew van Ginkel had

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Speaker 1: an unforeseen appendix removal. McDaniel said there is significant optimism

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Speaker 1: it won't affect anything for him as far as the

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Speaker 1: season goes. What the hecks going on? That's the second

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Speaker 1: appendectomy in the NFL training? What is going on? Like

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had to get an appendec? To me, he's

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Speaker 1: just now getting back into practice now. Andrew Van Ginkel

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Speaker 1: has to I don't know what's going on, but weird preseason.

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Speaker 1: It's like the offseason of the appendec to me, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where that's coming from. Eight O three fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty is the

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Speaker 1: number two call. We're asking you to give us the

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Speaker 1: two players you're looking at in Friday nights game against

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Speaker 1: the Panthers, give us one on offense, one on defense,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a guy you want to see, Hey, does

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Speaker 1: he really deserve to be on the roster, or hey,

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Speaker 1: is it finally all clicking for this player? Or man,

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for this guy. I really hope he makes

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Speaker 1: the roster. You let us know at eight fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty the number to get on board. He

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Speaker 1: can hit us up on the tweet sheet at one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Did you have I didn't ask you did

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Speaker 1: you have a player or two that really are zeroed in? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I think it's Tommy Sweening. That's kind of how you

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Speaker 1: got to look at this because there's got to be

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Speaker 1: a few positions out there where it's going to be

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Speaker 1: an either or situation, and it could that those two

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Speaker 1: guys could very well be the either or there. I

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Speaker 1: was talking about Cam Lewis and Nick McCloud. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: let us know what you think, which ones you like,

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Speaker 1: and which ones you'll be focused on, because there are

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Speaker 1: some I know a lot of people are pulling for

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins. We've seen a lot of that in the

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Speaker 1: twitter traffic to the show through the course of this week.

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Speaker 1: You know, after he had a very good first preseason game,

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Speaker 1: and the and the coaching staff was trying to take

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Speaker 1: a long look at him. He was on almost every

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Speaker 1: special team's unit in last week's game against the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: trying to see if he's made progress in that area

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Speaker 1: of his game. So I know there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people rooting for him, and then I'm trying to run

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Speaker 1: down the roster see if there were some other guys.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that like balin Specter. That's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's going to be fighting. Do the Bills

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Speaker 1: keep six linebackers or do they only keep five. If

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Speaker 1: they keep five, I think that means Specter is probably

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Speaker 1: on your practice squad. If they keep six, well, then

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Speaker 1: maybe he's got to look at it, or maybe he

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Speaker 1: does something amazing Friday night that convinces the coaching staff man,

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Speaker 1: he's doing really well. He's coming on quick here. If

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Speaker 1: we put him on the practice squad, we might lose

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Speaker 1: him to another team. You know, that's always the concern too,

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Speaker 1: that they've got a factor in. It's definitely gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I think some people also have their eyes on the

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Speaker 1: running back for room. How is that all going to

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Speaker 1: shake out? You know, you bring in Duke Johnson, a

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Speaker 1: veteran Zach Moss is looking more healthy. Raheine black Shear

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Speaker 1: has been a fun player to watch in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Scored a lot of rushing touchdowns. Even I took two

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Speaker 1: calls yesterday people stumping for Raheine Blackshear. We had like

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Speaker 1: his campaign manager on yesterday. He thinks the guy, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's He's gotten some votes for sure. Unless Steve and

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Speaker 1: I were saying on the show yesterday, Mattie, it's very

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Speaker 1: easy for running backs to kind of stand out in

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Speaker 1: the preseason. Your eyes are focused on them because they

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Speaker 1: got the ball in their hand, and you can very

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Speaker 1: easily say, oh, yeah, well, hey that guy's got some chews.

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Speaker 1: Oh I like that guy, you know, and then instantly

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Speaker 1: they become a fan favorite. It seems seemingly overnight. And

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Speaker 1: we've kind of seen that to some degree with Raheem

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Speaker 1: black Shar, Christian Wade circle right. Steve actually brought him

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Speaker 1: up yesterday. I mean, but you know, black Shar, I

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Speaker 1: think is a guy that certainly earned a spot on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad at the very least, And you know,

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Speaker 1: we were talking, Hey, you know, he's the next Antonio Williams.

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Speaker 1: Antonio Williams was on the practice squad here for two years.

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Speaker 1: He did get to play in that season finale against

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. Scored two touchdowns and people were gaga

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Speaker 1: for Antonio Williams. So it seemingly happens there's a running back,

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Speaker 1: there's an underdog running back that turns into everybody's fan

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Speaker 1: favorite that they're rooting for. But let us know where

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Speaker 1: you come down on this eighth three fifty fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty, or on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Give us a player on offense, player on defense you

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Speaker 1: are focused in on for Friday Night's preseason finale against

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Speaker 1: the Panthers. Manny and I will take a break, be

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Speaker 1: back with your comments on that and maybe a little

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Speaker 1: what's for lunch when we return. You're on one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Collot of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All

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Speaker 1: right back here on a Thursday, Chris Brown, Maddie glab

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, and in anticipation of Friday Nights preseason

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Speaker 1: finale against the Panthers, we'd like to know the player

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Speaker 1: or two you're keeping an eye on. We need one

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Speaker 1: on offense. One on defense in tomorrow's game. Could be

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Speaker 1: a player you're rooting for, could be a player you're

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Speaker 1: still wondering about it. This guy got the goods. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Let me see you know, anybody you got

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Speaker 1: in mind. We're curious who those players are for you

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Speaker 1: eight oh three, five fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty or on the tweet seet and one bills Live.

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Speaker 1: We go to the phones now and hit and leadoff

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Speaker 1: for us today is Steve in Syracuse. Steve, what do

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Speaker 1: you got for us? You're on one bills Lives. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm a favorite of blacksheard the running back and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why I know. Steve was on yesterday saying

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Speaker 1: that there's so many running backs would be available free

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Speaker 1: agency and this and that compared with the ones that

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Speaker 1: we have already. However, this kid is different. He takes

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Speaker 1: that one cut and he comes right up the gut.

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Speaker 1: He's going, he's moving. These other kids and guys we

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Speaker 1: got now aren't capable. They don't do that. They might

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Speaker 1: do it once in a while, but this kid is

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Speaker 1: more consistent on that. Plus he's on kickoffs. He do

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Speaker 1: kickoffs and on defense, I'll expect there very much. He's

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Speaker 1: a tough kid, hard hitters all over the field, and

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Speaker 1: I was vote for him too, that's for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good pick Steve. I like both of those. I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 1: And it looks like in our discussion earlier, Maddie, we've

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Speaker 1: kind of hit on some of these bubble guys that

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Speaker 1: people are clearly rooting for. And Black Cheer is a

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Speaker 1: one cut and go type runner. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you can fault the other backs on the team for

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Speaker 1: not running the same way. I mean, Devin Singletary is

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Speaker 1: a make you miss, kind of a shifty shoulder fake

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Speaker 1: guy that'll make you miss in space. He's not a

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Speaker 1: plow ahead guy necessarily Zach Moss is and doesn't have

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Speaker 1: maybe as much wiggle or burst as Black Cher. So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a different strokes for different folks

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Speaker 1: thing as I see it. I mean, Black shar is

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Speaker 1: just a different style runner, right Like. Yeah, And you

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Speaker 1: look inside the running back room and if you go

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Speaker 1: down and say what each player is good at, it's

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Speaker 1: it's been interesting because it's not like running backs are

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Speaker 1: thirty one flavors. Running Backs can do a few different

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Speaker 1: things and it seems like each guy on the roster

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Speaker 1: is good at doing one of those few different things.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of a pick your poison. What is

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Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey want in this offense this year? I think

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Speaker 1: we can say Devin Singletary and James Cook and Taiwan

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Speaker 1: Jones are definitely going to be on this roster. Taiwan

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Speaker 1: Jones because of what he can do on special teams,

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Speaker 1: but they like James Cook's versatility, and Devin Singletary has

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Speaker 1: definitely improved season after season, especially at the end of

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Speaker 1: last year. So what else do you want in there?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to Raheem Blackshear? Do you want somebody

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Speaker 1: like Zach Moss? What about a Duke Johnson? And So

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Speaker 1: I think that has been something that I've liked watching

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Speaker 1: about the running back room is just how different really

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Speaker 1: each running back has been. If there's one thing that

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Speaker 1: I think we still don't know about Blackshear, it is

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Speaker 1: what is his level of versatility as a back? And

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Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why we don't know

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Speaker 1: that it's kind of because how some of these games

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Speaker 1: have gone, like last week's game, for example, By the

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Speaker 1: time he gets in the game's over and the coaching

588
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Speaker 1: staff's just looking to get the heck out of Dodge,

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Speaker 1: so they're running the ball like crazy. So I really

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Speaker 1: don't know enough about black Shear's abilities as a receiver

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Speaker 1: out of the backfield. We really haven't seen him much

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Speaker 1: of that. And we know he can return, as you know,

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Speaker 1: our caller pointed out, he's been on kick return, so

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Speaker 1: that's great. And we know he's got explosive burst that

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Speaker 1: can help him get around the corner if he has

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Speaker 1: an angle. So those are all good things. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know if we know enough yet about black Shear.

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Speaker 1: Not that I don't like him. I like him as

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Speaker 1: a player, but on this roster, in a year where

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Speaker 1: you're going for the whole thing, I would tend to

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Speaker 1: think they're going to side a little bit more with experience.

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Speaker 1: I think black Shear would have had to have an

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Speaker 1: all pro training camp in preseason to unseat one of

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Speaker 1: the guys ahead of him in the pecking order. Really

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Speaker 1: would have taken a big lift. There. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to the phones, and we've got Marie and am us next.

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Speaker 1: What do you have Marie? All right? So I was

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Speaker 1: thinking we already saw what Moss and single theory could

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Speaker 1: pretty much do. Do you think the Bills will look

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Speaker 1: into possibly trading them, Maybe they're the Raiders and bring

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Speaker 1: in Josh Jacobs because I could see Josh Jacob Cook

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Speaker 1: and Black Cheer. I think that would be something. The

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Speaker 1: other two, I mean, I liked them, but they've been

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Speaker 1: very inconsistent with their game. They'll have great games, great births,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll go missing and then Josh is running

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Speaker 1: with Risk and Josh. So that's it. That's all I

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Speaker 1: wanted to beat. All right, Marie, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. An interesting trade scenario there. I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: she mentioned the Raiders because they're releasing Kenyan Drake and

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Speaker 1: they're down or running back at least of name recognition.

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Speaker 1: Don't see them doing that quite frankly, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there are there things to like about

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Speaker 1: Black Year, Absolutely, I just don't know if it's enough

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Speaker 1: to bump one of those other guys off the roster.

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Speaker 1: And I don't see them really all that interested in

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Speaker 1: trading one of those guys, especially somebody like Singletary who

627
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Speaker 1: knows the offense inside and out. Yeah, in terms of

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Speaker 1: trading then you're looking out, what type of salary are

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Speaker 1: you picking up from the other player? How is that

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Speaker 1: going to work with cap space? He had a running

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Speaker 1: back coming back in the Deals, you had Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 1: coming back. That's a guy with a lot of miles

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Speaker 1: on the tires too. The Raiders have run the heck

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Speaker 1: out of him the last couple of years when he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been injured, and he's had an injury history too.

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Speaker 1: So all those are things to consider when you're trying

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Speaker 1: to talk about stuff like that. Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: the phones and waiting for us. There is Oh, I

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Speaker 1: got butchering Buffalo? What do you got for us? Butcher

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Speaker 1: on one Bill's Life. Hello, Hello Chris, Hello Patty, And

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Speaker 1: it's upon or a pleasure to speak with you guys.

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Speaker 1: You guys have a steaming show and I love both

643
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Speaker 1: of you. Tell Steve, Tell Steve, I'm missing. But I

644
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Maddie. Did You're more to welcome?

645
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: I have? I have two couple of things, really, bat,

646
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use black ships since use one on the

647
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: top of my list. Chris, Maddie, you know when the

648
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: companies running back for us, we could use the title

649
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: or call running back and then put somebody in that

650
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: underneath that title. But sometimes you have certain talents that's special.

651
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: I know they're talking about reminding him of the guy

652
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: last year we having a practice by Antonio, But he's

653
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: totally different this guy here. And I'm not no disrespect

654
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: to motor Zach, you know what I mean. And I'm

655
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: not even gonna count Cook yet. I'm gonna use motor

656
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: in Zach. There are good running backs. This guy's instinct

657
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: of the way he moves his feet, plant cut got

658
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: it's something totally different. It's just unfortunate that he got

659
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: drafted late in the draft. I guess andre Ree had

660
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: that problem against Tom Brady had that problem and mom

661
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: and Steve Taster has had that problem too. But own

662
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: our roster. Black should played special teams and in the

663
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: way in today's game is in the kicking game. It's

664
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: not that many returns anyway. I look at Twin Jones,

665
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: thirty four years old, twelve years in the league. His

666
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: time has come. As time is gone. Black Shore could

667
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: take that position and still play special teams. Now that's

668
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: one on the Saint one face the side of the ball.

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00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I look at Isaiah Hodges. He paid his dues. One

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00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: thing I know about our guys. I'm saying our guys,

671
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: Brandy being in an administration that i'll standing staff. They have,

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00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: they believe in, developed in their own This guy has

673
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: paid his dues. He came, he came in, he worked hard,

674
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: he got injured, he could hit the field. But now

675
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: he's ready to play. I can see them keeping him

676
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: and now Kumerow and he might he might be battling

677
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: with Isaiah Hodges now on the deep society. I don't

678
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: let you guys go. And thanks for the call. It's

679
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: only one player and that's that cornerback. What was side

680
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: two players? Two quarterbacks to our first round pick and

681
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: ours our fore front pick goes tows those two guys.

682
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: I am so excited to watch on Friday. But I

683
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: love you guys, man. You guys got blessed. Both of

684
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: y'all got blessed. Staff, and I love WGF for the

685
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: rest of all life. And thanks so much to say

686
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: good one call. All right, thanks, butch appreciate the call

687
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: as always. Yeah, blackshear was undrafted, so that doesn't mean anything.

688
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of undrafted guys that go on to

689
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: have long careers in the NFL, So I mean, make

690
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: of that what you will. I do agree he's a

691
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: very decisive runner. Butch, there's no debating that. We already

692
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: talked about his running style, Mannie, I just don't know.

693
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: He brings up an interesting conversation concerning Taiwan Jones. Yea,

694
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: he is thirty four years old. Where do you come

695
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: down on I mean, he's still a valuable special teams

696
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: player in this league. I also think Taiwan falls into

697
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: the you add to the locker room conversation. You are

698
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: an integral part of the locker room. A lot of

699
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: the guys look at him as one of the veteran

700
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: leaders on this team, so I think he falls more

701
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: into the bucket of a lock on this roster. I

702
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: would be surprised if Taiwan Jones got cut. Yeah, Here's

703
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Speaker 1: where I kind of come down on it, because there

704
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Speaker 1: is you are going to reach a point in time

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Speaker 1: where you say, okay, do they kind of REACHT with

706
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: Pat de Marco? Yeah? They did. I think that was

707
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: different though, because I think Pat's skills had begun to decline.

708
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that we can definitively say that for

709
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones as he run as fast as he did

710
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: when he's twenty four, Probably not, but he's still a

711
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: pretty important and pivotal special teams player. Where I come

712
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: down on this is here, you've got a first year

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Speaker 1: special teams coordinator. Now, Matthew Smiley has been here for

714
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: the entire McDermot administration. He's been the assistant Special Teams coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I'm not indicating in any way, shape or form he

716
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: is not qualified for the role. What I'm saying is

717
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: to help a first year special teams coordinator, I think

718
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: some of the best ways to do that to ensure

719
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: success is to have veteran players on the special teams units.

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Speaker 1: So if this was a special teams coordinator who was

721
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: in year like six and he had to maybe do

722
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of turnover and inject some more youth

723
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: into special teams and they had been a good unit

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00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, then maybe a thirty four

725
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: year old Taiwan Jones doesn't make the roster. But I

726
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Speaker 1: think with Coach Smiley in this chair for the first

727
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: time and wanting to have this thing completely buttoned up

728
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: in a year again, where you're going for the whole

729
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: dang thing. Coaches inherently trust veteran players more, and I

730
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: think that might tip the scales in favor of Thaiwan.

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Speaker 1: In a year where you do have you already have

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Speaker 1: newness to the special team's room. You've got a new

733
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: Matteriza is new on this team, and new punter, a

734
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: new holder, your punt returner and your kick returner is

735
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: still something that has yet to be seen as who

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: the starters are going to be. So those are big

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00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: new parts and facets of the special team's room. Is

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00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: that just enough newness for someone like Matthew Smiley who

739
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: doesn't want to add anything more. It's difficult to say,

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00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: because it's not like the Special teams unit is devoid

741
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: of veteran special teams players. You've got Tyler Madakavic. You've

742
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: got Tyrell Dotson who's now been here for like three years.

743
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: You have Serran Neil who just signed a big contract

744
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: in the off season. So there are veteran performers on

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00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: special teams that go beyond just Taiwan Jones. If you

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00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: feel you have to make a difficult choice there and

747
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: maybe you have to keep an extra person at a

748
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: given position, or maybe it is blackshear versus Jones, and

749
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: you keep the extra back. Maybe that happens. I'm just

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00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: thinking with a new coordinator in that seat, I think

751
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: you want to help him as much as you can,

752
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: and I think you do that with more veteran players

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00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: on the squad. So that's just me. I could be wrong.

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00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: We'll find out next week. We'll find out in just

755
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: a few days as to how that does shake out

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00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: on the special team side of the ledger and the

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00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: difference it makes in the roster composition. Manny and I

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00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: have to take a break here. When we come back

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00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: more of your comments. We'll get to some of those

760
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet, which we have yet to

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00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: crack yet. We'll do that when we return here. On

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Speaker 1: Buffalo wing dot com. Should be a rip roaring event.

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00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: People have wing saws up around their ears. They'll be

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00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: so deep into these buckets of wings, be crazy. I

773
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: was talking to Steve about it. Actually went to it

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00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: probably like six or seven years ago when it was

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00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: at the Bison's Ballpark and it was a good time.

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00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: They had a competitive eating contest there, like Joey Chestnut

777
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: was there, the Black Widow was there. And it's interesting

778
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: because when you're doing a race and you're eating wings,

779
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: wings are all different sizes, so they would The way

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00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: they determined the winner was by the weight. I gotta

781
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: make sure I have this right, the weight of the

782
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: bones you left behind. But I thought there would be

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00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: a way to cheat that because if you like, don't

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00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: completely clean the wing off, you leave a little meat

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00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: on the bone. Now it's a little bit heavier in

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00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: the bucket. So I thought that was flawed and being

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00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: accurate in the thing. These are the stupid things that

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00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: I think about when I'm watching these events. But it

789
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: was a show for sure. Being at a competitive eating

790
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: contest live that is an experience. It's pure gluttony. But

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00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: it's an experience. I might I might get grossed out watching.

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00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: Oh it's not pretty contest, it's anything but pretty. Um

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00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: It's funny because when I was a kid, it was like,

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00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, you get to you go to those town

795
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: fairs in the summer and they got the pie eating contest,

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00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: no hands and these people are burying their faces. That's

797
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: what I remember as a kid. Now it's like, yeah,

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00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: corn on the cob eating contests, we got the Nathan's

799
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: Hot Dog thing and Coney Island every year. It's just

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00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: anything and anything they have. I heard out in California

801
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: they actually have a sushi competitive eating contest, which now

802
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: that's something because that's a lot like the rice would

803
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: just fill you up so fast. If it was like

804
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, California rolls and they're just popping those, that

805
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: would be wild. Love to see it. We are talking

806
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: about players you are keeping your eye on, one on offense,

807
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: one on defense for tomorrow night's preseason finale. Maybe it's

808
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: a player you're rooting for. Maybe it's a player you

809
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: still need to see a little bit more of that

810
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: you haven't through the first two preseason games. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the tweet sheet for a few answers. Here,

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Speaker 1: Maddie tweetch sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official moving equipment company of the Buffalo Bills. Steve

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00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: leads us off and says, I will be watching Specter

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Speaker 1: on defense and the Sweeney Morris competition on offense because

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00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: these are currently my fifty two, fifty three and fifty

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00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: four on making the roster. He's right there with us.

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00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: You know what you're talking about, Steve. Yeah, Specter has

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00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: a circle on my list right now, and Sweeney and

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00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: Morris are two players that I'm going to be watching.

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00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: So those guys are going to be playing snaps on,

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00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: They're gonna be playing a lot. All those guys would

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00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: probably be playing in the fourth quarter. Jack on the

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00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says, on offense, I'll be watching Hodgens and Morris.

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00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: I think both will stick, but Hodgens has to show

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Speaker 1: he can play special teams. Morris has to show he's

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00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: a versatile weapon on D I want Lewis to push

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00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: for the roster. He's talking about Cam Lewis love the

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00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: ub kids, Moxie and Specter. Can he cement a spot?

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00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: I think specters on the roster if they keep six linebackers,

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00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: if they only keep five, I think it's going to

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00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: cost him. The other thing that I was going to

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00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: point out is the Hodgins thing. So Hodgens, as I mentioned, already,

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00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: played on a bunch of the special teams units last week.

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Speaker 1: If he is on fewer of those special teams units

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Speaker 1: this week, would you see that as a good thing

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00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: for his chances or a bad thing for his chances?

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00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: Because I think you can look at it both ways.

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00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: I would view it from the perspective of that's a

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00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: good thing because they've seen what they need to see

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00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: out of him. That's one way to look at it. Yeah,

842
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: you could flip it the other way. But we've seen

843
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: what we need to see out of you and it's

844
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: not good enough. But I would be hoping it would

845
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: be seen what we've seen out of you, and we

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00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: believe that you can play on special teams, you can

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00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: be a factor on special teams. That's how I would

848
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: view it. The same for you are different. I think

849
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: I might look I don't have a trained football evaluation.

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00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: I like the people in the personnel department, but I

851
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: was watching him pretty closely on special teams last week.

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00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: And this is no knock on Isaiah because he is

853
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: working hard to master it. He just doesn't look comfortable

854
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: yet to me, like he's still doing you know how

855
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: we hear players on offensive defense all the time say

856
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: when they come to a new system, I'm still thinking

857
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: too much. That's what he looks like out there. He's

858
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 1: still thinking too much. So I anticipate he is again

859
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: going to be on a lot of special teams so

860
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: they can assess, Okay, can you make progress from one

861
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: week to the next. Are you looking more comfortable? Do

862
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: we see, you know, an improvement from one week to

863
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: the next. That's why I'm expecting him to be out

864
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: there just as much as he was last week, because

865
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: I think they want to see, Okay, what kind of

866
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: progress did you make? Are you getting more comfortable? So

867
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: we know, like, hey, if we got to play you

868
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: in week six, you'll be even better and we can

869
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: trust you out there. So I think it's a progression

870
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: type thing for him. So if he's not out there

871
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: on all the special teams, then I'm concerned because then,

872
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: in my mind, they've already made a decision on him,

873
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: and it's tough for a guy like him. I mean,

874
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: he came in and had that injury right away, so

875
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: you would expect him. Yes, he would be up to speed,

876
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: he should be comfortable, he should be reacting, not thinking.

877
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: But this, the injury that he had, I think really

878
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: set him back. And this is I think, really the

879
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: first chance we've We've finally got to see the real

880
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens. This training camp, yeah, oh, no question. Yeah,

881
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean that rookie season was I mean it was lost.

882
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: He had to get shoulder surgery, that whole thing. So yeah,

883
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: it does set you back. But he's put together a

884
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: good training camp. He's done well on offense. The tough

885
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: thing for him is, I think he has to prove

886
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: he can play on special teams because when you're the

887
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: sixth receiver, more often than not in a given week,

888
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: if you're up in active and everybody else is healthy,

889
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: most of your snaps, most of your snaps gonna be

890
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: on special teams in the game. So you got to

891
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: prove you can do it there. And that's his challenge.

892
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: We have to take a break. When we come back.

893
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: We're going to be joined by NFL Order for the

894
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: Ringer Danny Hipetz, who put together a couple of interesting

895
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: write ups, including which teams he feels are all in,

896
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: which teams are at the top of his list for

897
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 1: pushing all of their chips to the middle of the table.

898
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: We'll get to that and more with Danny when we return.

899
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: You know, on one Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health,

900
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has

901
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was

902
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, Stave of

903
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: a lily, Steve a blimp. We're not even in the

904
00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: stratosphere of normalcy, all right. Our number two here on Thursday,

905
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Mattie glab with you on One Bills Live

906
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: and happy to be joined now by NFL reporter for

907
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: the ringer is Danny Hipitz joining us on the show,

908
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: who put together an interesting synopsis on the entire league

909
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: in terms of which NFL teams in his estimation have

910
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: pushed all their chips to the middle of the table

911
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: in our quote unquote all in for twenty twenty two.

912
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: And Danny, I think we got to start here. You went,

913
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: you did a deep dive. Here, you went into like

914
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: a full blown formula. Maybe I think it's important that

915
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: you explain that first because we all know the knee

916
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: jerk reactions of NFL fans in social media, the Bills

917
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Mafia included, And I think it would behoove you to

918
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: kind of explain how you kind of came up with

919
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: the model to determine the all in ratios so to speak. Yeah,

920
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: I'll spare you my PhD dissertation here, But my Ringer

921
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: colleague Riley McAtee, who's credit were credits to, he's like

922
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: the math whizz of the two of us. We put

923
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: out this thing called the all Index basically because how

924
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: many times have you heard the Rams went all in

925
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl? Right? It's this ubiquitous term. Oh,

926
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: they traded the draft picks, they pushed all their money

927
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: into the future, they signed these players. But what does

928
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: that mean? What does it mean when a team goes

929
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: all in? So we wanted to create a metric to

930
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: measure how all in teams are. So we called it

931
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: the all Index, and we really just measured the two

932
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: things money and draft capital, because that's really all teams

933
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: got to build teams, right, It's just they can spend

934
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: money or they can use the draft picks, So we're

935
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: basically measuring how much your team's borrowing from the future,

936
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: whether in the form of money, which is about accounting

937
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: which I will not get into, but I promised you

938
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: we measured it, and then draft picks, which, for example,

939
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: the Bills were not considering to be super all in

940
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: in the draft perspective because the Bills haven't traded away

941
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: their future picks. So we're not saying it's good or

942
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: bad to be first. The Rams are then most all

943
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: in team in our measurement. The Houston Texans are the

944
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: least all in. We're not saying it's a bad we're

945
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: saying in terms of draft picks, money all this, we

946
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: have the Bills ranked as the tenth most all in

947
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: team to win the Super Bowl this year. So having

948
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: the Bills at number ten, can you explain how you

949
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: guys arrived at number ten in terms of their cap

950
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: and their draft capital. So yeah, so basically we have

951
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: the Bills spending money. The Bills actually are top three,

952
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: So the Bills are trying. They're trying like they're throwing money, right,

953
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: They're not spending like there's some small market team, right.

954
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: And then you've got the draft. The Bills aren't doing

955
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: what other teams are doing, right. You know, they're not

956
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, where you know, they're trading away future

957
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: first round picks for Tyreek Kill. Obviously, the Bills did

958
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: that a couple of years ago with Stefon Diggs, but

959
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: measuring with going looking at this year's draft, in the

960
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: next few drafts, the Bills have basically held on to

961
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: really most of their like really high value picks. I

962
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: think they've flipped like a fourth rounder I think in

963
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: next year's draft, but like nothing, nothing really big compared

964
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: to you know, there's not the Denver Broncos trading away

965
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: two first rounders to get Russell Wilson. So the Bills

966
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: I think, are spending at this like elite elite level,

967
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: but they're by keeping onto their current draft picks. It's

968
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: not like the Rams where it's like, well, in two years,

969
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: where's this roster going to be. The Bills are spending

970
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: to win now, but they're maintaining the draft capital to

971
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: stay competitive for the rest of Josh Allen's prime. I

972
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: did enjoy the way you crafted Miami Dolphins portion of

973
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: the right up here. You know, Bills fans are gonna

974
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: look at the list and be like, oh, the Dolphins

975
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: are forth what the hell is going on there? But

976
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: your bottom line for them is they're accidentally all in,

977
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: which I think is an absolutely hilarious description and accurate

978
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: at the same time. But maybe explain. I think a

979
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: lot of people say, all right, well, the Tyreek Hill

980
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: is a go for a type move to change the

981
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: composition of your receiving corps and have a true game

982
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: breaker and help out your quarterback. But maybe what beyond

983
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: that resonated with you to rank them that high. So

984
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: I think when we look at at the rankings, what

985
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: was interesting it's accidentally all in. We actually had a

986
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: conversation of whether we should include the first round pick

987
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: that was stripped for them for obviously, you know Stephen

988
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: Ross a Dolphins owner, you know, there was there was

989
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: tampering investigation, and they got stripped the first round pick.

990
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: We made a debate about whether we should include that

991
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: because obviously the Dolphins didn't do that on purpose, but

992
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: we're like, you know what, like this is where they're at,

993
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: Like this is for better or worse. The Dolphins traded

994
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: a bunch of picks for Tyreek Hill just to give

995
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: him twenty nine million dollars a year annually. And this

996
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: is really what we're talking about going all in. I

997
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: think the reason we gave Dolphins all in, I mean

998
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: they spent I mean almost I believe, like one hundred

999
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. I mean it's brought in Turn Armstead to

1000
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: be the left tackle from the New Orleans Saints. They

1001
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: traded for Direy Hill just to give them this top

1002
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: of the market contract. All really to see is too

1003
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: a good enough to be signed to be their franchise quarterback.

1004
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, now your future first

1005
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: round picks are also being stripped as well. So we

1006
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: basically have the Dolphins. The amount of draft capital they've

1007
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: given up for you know, Tyreek Hill and you know

1008
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: basically Cedric Wilson, who's this other receiver they signed, is

1009
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: kind of equivalent basically to what the Broncos gave up

1010
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. And so that's kind of what we

1011
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: mean with accidentally all in, because the Dolphins could have

1012
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: been acquiring a Russell Wilson like figure and instead they're

1013
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: like a fringe wildcard team and the AFC, but they

1014
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: have like no draft picks left. It's such just not

1015
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: a winning formula. And that's what I like about the

1016
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: All index is you're like, oh, the Rams, they're all

1017
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: and that makes sense. The Broncos cool, And the Dolphins

1018
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. But the Dolphins, if you look

1019
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: at the spending and the draft picks, they are more

1020
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: of a present focus team than the Bills are, which

1021
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: is crazy and really not a great sign of where

1022
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: that the Miami's heading. Was there any other team on

1023
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: this list that that was a head scratcher like the

1024
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: Dolphins of of what are you doing? You are spending

1025
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: or you're trading away a lot of your picks, but

1026
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: you're really not necessarily anywhere close to contending for a

1027
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: super Bowl at this point. I know one. I mean

1028
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: the Carolina Yeah, that team would be a lot better

1029
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: if you know, Brandon van and everyone had stayed there, right.

1030
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's pretty it's pretty woeful it's going

1031
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: on in Carolina. I mean, just to give you a slice,

1032
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: the Panthers are ranked eleventh, which is one spot behind

1033
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: the Bills. I mean, the Bills are the Super Bowl

1034
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: favorites their tenth and the Panthers are projected to win

1035
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: like six games, and that's probably generous and they're eleventh,

1036
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, that's what happened. Again, to be clear

1037
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: that this isn't such subjective rankings as much as we're

1038
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: looking at draft capital spending. I know that's kind of

1039
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: like a vague thing. Here's a good example. Panthers give

1040
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: up a second round pick, very valuable pick because they

1041
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: did poorly, So a second round pick, which is really

1042
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: kind of like a fringe first round pick to get

1043
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold one terrible year Sam Darnold where he's basically

1044
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the NFL, and then they decide

1045
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's not going to be their starting quarterback. I

1046
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: mean this season, bench him, but he's still the highest

1047
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: paid player on the roster. So the highest paid player

1048
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: on your roster cost you a second round pick and

1049
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: it's not going to play for you. Then, on top

1050
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: of that, you trade basically a future third round pick

1051
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: to trade up get Matt Correll, the quarterback from Old Miss,

1052
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: and he was basically on track to be their fourth

1053
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: string quarterback for them before he's out for the season.

1054
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: But even before he Mackrell was out of the season,

1055
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: he was basically a guy cost the two third round

1056
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: picks wasn't going to be top three at the quarterback position.

1057
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: That's a team that's burning draft capital, lighting money on

1058
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: fire to fix present day problems. It's kind of like

1059
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: if you're in a boat and you're kind of like

1060
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: ripping up floorboards to kind of plug holes, but the

1061
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: thing's still gonna sink. Yeah, it's ugly not to mention

1062
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: what they did to get Baker Mayfield. I mean, yes,

1063
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: they're gotting the brown exactly, which brings me to my

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00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: next team because it's all in. But I'm wondering if

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: you docked the Browns at all in light of what

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00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: the suspension ultimately was, because they go all in on

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00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson two hundred and thirty million and guaranteed money.

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00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: They agree to pay like more than half of Baker

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00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: mayfield salary to not play for them, and they're not

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00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: going to have Deshaun Watson playing for them either. Yeah,

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00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean the Brown situation. I mean, the fact of

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00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: the matter is that the Browns, for better or worse,

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00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: the Browns are more all in on Deshaun Watson than

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: any team has ever been on any individual in the

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00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: history of the NFL. And we didn't let the suspension

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00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: change our rating of him because we were basically letting

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00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: the numbers speak. And I think that the fact that

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00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: the Browns have decided to go all in on Deshaun Watson,

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00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: everyone can make up their own minds. I would argue

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: that probably was not the best decision the team could

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00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: have made. I mean, it's just it's kind of an

1082
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: insane thing to me, quite honestly. But the I mean,

1083
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: the Browns ranked third in our all index, and that's

1084
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: what happens when you give a player basically forty five

1085
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: million dollars a year guaranteed, and not to mention, they

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00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: give up I think three first round picks in that trade.

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00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: So the Browns have basically pegged their franchise to DeShawn Watson,

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: despite everything he's been sued for, despite everything he's been

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00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: accused of, and so you know, this is this is

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00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: the situation they've decided to put themselves in with the Rams.

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00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills open the season against the La Rams.

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00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: We know they won the Super Bowl last year, but

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00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: the question this year is can they do it again?

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01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: They were all in this past season, look to be

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: again this season With this index that you did, are

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Speaker 1: you looking forward to seeing what this next season looks like.

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 1: Because sure the all in thing worked for the Rams

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01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: this past year, but other teams are probably looking and

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: taking notes as to seeing is this sustainable here, because

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01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: that's been Brandon being our GM's big thing is we

1101
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: want to be sustainable in the way that we spend

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Speaker 1: money and the way that we keep or deal away

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01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: draft picks. We don't want this to be a one

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Speaker 1: and done thing here. We would like to be good

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01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: for multiple years in a row. I think that's a

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01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: great question. I think that you definitely see a big

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01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: gap for doing this all index between Super Bowl contenders

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01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: who are going all in and squeezing every edge now

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl contenders who are trying to extend their

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01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: window and trying to diversify. You know, so, I guess

1111
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: putting different eggs and if each season's kind of like

1112
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: a basket, team like the Rams are putting all their

1113
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: eggs in their current basket every year, and then you

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01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: say a team like, for example, the Baltimore Ravens, who

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01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, the Green Bay Packers. All three

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01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: of those teams traded away their number one receiver, Marky's

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: Brown for Baltimore, Davante Adams for the Packers, tied to

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01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: kill for the Chiefs for a first rounder and are

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01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: basically reinvesting in the prime of their quarterbacks. Or Aaron

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01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers is older but still lose back to back MVP

1121
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: and they're basically betting the next four years, you know,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers for Green Bay, Lamar Jackson for the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Moons for the Chiefs. We're going to be competitive.

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Speaker 1: We need to reinvest in our team. There's teams like

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Speaker 1: the Rams which are kind of doing the opposite, right,

1126
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: the Rams, they are going to go seven straight years

1127
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: with at a first round pick. I mean, that's unbelievable, right,

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Speaker 1: But they're basically trying to throw all the rags into

1129
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: every basket every season, and they're playing musical chairs, and

1130
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: when that music stops one day, they're just gonna fall

1131
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: right in their butt, right, kind of like musical chairs.

1132
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: And I think that what's interesting is I think the

1133
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: Bills are kind of playing in the middle. The Bills

1134
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: are spending like the Rams spend, and you need to

1135
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money to do what the Rams do,

1136
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: but they're not mortgaging their draft picks at the expense

1137
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: of that consistency, that year to year competitiveness, which quite frankly,

1138
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: the Bills have lacked for a lot of the Tom

1139
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: Brady Patriots era. And it's I think it's it's nice

1140
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: to have the Buffalo Bills back as a team that

1141
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, who knows about the future,

1142
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: but for the foreseeable future, people are going to expect

1143
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills to be in contention for the number

1144
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: one seeded in the AFC every single year really for

1145
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: as long as Josh Allens and at his prime, and

1146
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: so I think it totally makes sense to try to

1147
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: walk the middle of that tight rope spending as long

1148
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: as that Super Bowl. You know, when you're the super

1149
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: Bowl favorite, don't pinch pennies. But also doesn't necessarily make

1150
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: sense to be selling the farm, especially in such a

1151
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: competitive fanfacy. Danny, I know that you guys did risers

1152
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: and followers through week two of the preseason. There are

1153
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: some people that haven't even played yet, which probably made

1154
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: your list considerably shorter in terms of league wide, But

1155
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: there are some names here that I was looking at two.

1156
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, selfishly, I have a fantasy draft in about

1157
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: a week. But the name that have kind of caught

1158
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: my eye on your list, and I don't know what

1159
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: else you can lend to this, but Nico Collins, the

1160
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: huge receiver in Houston, and Johan Dotson, the Commander's receiver

1161
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: out of Penn State. Tell me why those guys major

1162
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: list here? So I love Johan Dotson, Yeah, the receiver

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01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: for Penn State. I mean, he's unbelievable. I mean, I

1164
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: don't want to it's I don't think it's ever fair

1165
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: to compare players to like borderline Hall of famers, but

1166
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. He kind of almost reminds me

1167
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: of DeAndre Hopkins when he goes up for a ball.

1168
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: There's an incredible aggressiveness when Johan Dotson plays. He's like

1169
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: the less famous, less heralded of the first round receivers, right,

1170
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: He's not quite as famous Jamison Williams from Alabama, chriss

1171
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: O Lave from Ohiose State, Garrett Wilson from Ourhiuse State,

1172
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: Drake Leonard from You to see, these are like really

1173
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: cool players that went. Johan Dotson's just the silent player.

1174
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: Washington's been clouded by all this. You know, it's that

1175
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: they're being they're congressional subpoenas and Dan Snyder being on

1176
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: a super yacht. It is much more of a storyline

1177
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: this year than anything Washington's doing. But I think the

1178
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: Johan Dotson's playing style with Carson Wentz is going to

1179
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: be really good. He's gonna like start for them right

1180
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: out of the gate. And John Dodson, Honestly, I don't

1181
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: even know how many people really know his name, to

1182
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: be honest, So I think John Dodson is like the

1183
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: perfect guy to upside receiver, to throw on your bench.

1184
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: And Nico Collins is like an even deeper sleeper to

1185
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: me of just you know, there's a world where the

1186
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: Texans offense is not putrid and there's Brandon Cooks and

1187
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: there's like no one else in that offense. So Nico

1188
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: Collins is a talented guy, and I think that if

1189
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: Davis Mills is even I mean phrasing but passable, Nico

1190
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: Collins could be really high upset play. You also talked

1191
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: about Josh Palmer on that list. Can you explain why

1192
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: he was on that list. He's a favorite of mine.

1193
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: I worked at the University of Tennessee. We worked together

1194
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: when I was working there, so great kid. I love

1195
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: that he's having success this year, and I hope it

1196
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: falls over this past year, and I hope it falls

1197
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: over to this year as well. I mean, yeah, I

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01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: mean Josh Palmer, Yeah, you said it, and I mean

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01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: he just seems like a really nice guy, really great

1200
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: easy guy to before and I mean if you watch

1201
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: him play, it just seems uber talented. And then everyone

1202
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: really expects I mean, if Josh Allen's not going to

1203
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: be m this year, justin Herbert seems like he's going

1204
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: to be right there. And then basically what's nice about

1205
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: having Josh Palmer is that the third option in this

1206
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: Chargers offense has really been kind of i mean revolving

1207
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: drives to be polite. For the last five years, it

1208
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: feels like there's Keenan Allen as the number one, there's

1209
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: Mike Williams really as like a one B, and then

1210
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 1: just no one's still that spot. Josh Palmer just feels

1211
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: like such a natural to do it. And if anything

1212
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: happens to Keenan Allen, if an injury happens or Mike Williams,

1213
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: Josh Palmer can play either of those guys's roles. Josh

1214
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: Palmer can do the Keenan Allen role and underneath stuff

1215
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: he can do Mike Willians big play stuff. So you know,

1216
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: you kind of want with those later round picks, you

1217
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: want the surface area of luck. And it's nice to

1218
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: have a player who could carve out an independent role

1219
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: but also could fill in for either starter. So Josh

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: Palmer is a great one. Last one for you, Danny.

1221
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: This guy is not prototype size in terms of tight ends,

1222
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: but Isaiah Likely has been like lighting it up in

1223
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: the preseason. The problem I have is this the Ravens.

1224
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: You know, they trade away Marky's Hollywood Brown, they don't

1225
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: bring some other receivers back, and people are joking in

1226
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: the spring before the draft that this team is gonna

1227
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: line up in thirteen personnel every play of the season

1228
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: and never have a receiver on the field ever again.

1229
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: And then Likely comes along and he's doing what he's

1230
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: doing in the preseason. But Mark Andrews is like their

1231
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: number one target for like the last two years. I

1232
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: had him last year and he did very well for me.

1233
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: How does that shake out, though? How do the targets

1234
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: shake out? Knowing Andrews is Lamar's guy. When you got

1235
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: likely at the other potential tight end spot there, so

1236
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: the real answers we don't know. It seems like Mark

1237
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: Andrews would be the number one, Rashad Bateman would be

1238
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: the number two, and I think that the hope is

1239
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: probably Isaia like these number three. At the same time,

1240
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: it's always tough to depend on young tight ends to

1241
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: kind of just meet expectations right out of the gate.

1242
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: He has been crushing it in the preseason, to be sure. Realistically,

1243
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like Isaiah Likely is the kind

1244
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: of guy that if you keep on your bench entering

1245
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: the season with the hope that he's good, you're probably

1246
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: gonna end up cutting him in a weeks. That isn't

1247
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: necessarily bad because I think that the way you want

1248
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: to approach your bench and fantasy like you have one

1249
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: spot left in your bench and you got to fill it.

1250
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: I think it's not the worst way to approach it,

1251
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: as I'm basically trying to find the highest upside guy possible,

1252
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: and if he is really good, I want him to

1253
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: be good on my team instead of on waivers because

1254
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: you're always trying to add a fantasy player in the

1255
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: first week or two anyway based on the games, so

1256
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: you might as well try and project, Okay, if this

1257
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: person hits, what's like the biggest hit rate I could have,

1258
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna cut him anyway. So I think that

1259
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: that's kind of the attitude out with Isaiah likely is

1260
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: it's probably realistically a low probability gamble, but the upside

1261
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: of wow, what if he's just the number three guy

1262
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: in the Ravens pass attack. Not to mention, if you know,

1263
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: if Mark Aingrews doesn't get injured, maybe this is a

1264
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: top five tight end. That's I think the argument phrasaia likely,

1265
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: but realistically our expectations from are probably a little ridiculous.

1266
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: One more question for you on my end before we

1267
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: wrap up here week three of the preseason. Where are

1268
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: your eyes going this week as you as you watch

1269
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: the final season games before we get into action here.

1270
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's only one well, no offense. It's not

1271
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: the Bills right there. Bills aren't playing any starters. I

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Speaker 1: think there's the only one answer to Tom Brady. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is the biggest story I think in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's been very strange that he hasn't been

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Speaker 1: part of camp. It's been very difficult to talk about obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's even you know, people are iconic levels

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Speaker 1: of American culture do deserve some semblance of privacy. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why he hasn't been there, But I mean,

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Speaker 1: the reality is Tom Brady, this person who you would

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Speaker 1: think would need to be dragged by wild horses to

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Speaker 1: not be a training camp, has not been there for

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01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: we don't really know why. And his entire offensive line

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01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: has been absolutely decimated while he's been gone, and his

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01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: receivers aren't totally healthy either, So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there has been a meaningful preseason game that Tom Brady's

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Speaker 1: played in that I have cared. I don't maybe in

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Speaker 1: my entire life, I don't know if I've ever cared

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Speaker 1: what Tom Brady looked like in the preseason. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'll be fine, who cares? This one matters more, matters

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Speaker 1: more than anything. I can think. That's definitely the one

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Speaker 1: I'll be watching. Yeah, I'm just wondering if how risky

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Speaker 1: that is putting him in front of a line with

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Speaker 1: a brand new center and a brand new left guard,

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Speaker 1: because both those guys are out for the year, And

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Speaker 1: I mean they said he was on a family vacation, retreat,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it in the Bahamas. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, Danny, but my guess is Giselle

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Speaker 1: and Tom made that vacation. They planned that vacation when

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Speaker 1: he retired. Then he unretired, and she said, I don't care,

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Speaker 1: We're going figure it out, and that's what happened. You

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Speaker 1: don't mess with a supermodel, Danny. I'm just telling you,

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01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 1: especially from Brazil, but that's just me. I think you know.

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Speaker 1: Tom's taking care of a lot of Super Bowls. He did,

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01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: taking care of the home front. Always a good investment, Danny.

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Speaker 1: Always good to be with you. Thanks for joining us.

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01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: Enjoy the regular season. Man, we'll catch up with you

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01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: down the line. Thank you very much. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me. Yeah, no problem. That's Danny Heifetz, NFL writer

1309
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Speaker 1: for The Ringer. Pretty creative with some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that he puts together over there. Also does some podcasts

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01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: where with his buddy Danny Kelly over there at the

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Speaker 1: Ringer dot com. So yeah, yeah, your boy Josh Palmer.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering if you're gonna ask about him? Um. Oh,

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Speaker 1: such a big fan and a good personal lookout for

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Speaker 1: with fantasy drafts coming up kind of like a late

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01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: round sleeper tight because it's a tough depth chart out there.

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Speaker 1: With the chart, I mean Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, and

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Speaker 1: then did They picked up a tight end too, like

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01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: a veteran tight end, so they got a lot of targets.

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Speaker 1: So sharing the ball is gonna be tough. But pa,

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Speaker 1: I know they like Palmer, so we'll see if he

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Speaker 1: can nail down number three, number four role, maybe in

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Speaker 1: the receiving core. That'd be pretty cool for him. Eight

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Speaker 1: oh three, five fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty Give me the one or two players you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have your eye on Tomorrow night in the Bills

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Speaker 1: preseason finale, we go to the phones at eight oh three,

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Speaker 1: five fifty and waiting a long time here patiently is

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Speaker 1: Mark in Webster. What do you got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 1: Here on one Bill's Live say good afternoon, guys. Hey Chris,

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Speaker 1: I don't typically ever disagree with you. I respect your

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Speaker 1: opinion big time, but I had to call you today

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Speaker 1: just to pose those questions about the conversation you had

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Speaker 1: about Smiley and the fact that the Bills may be

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Speaker 1: dictating who they keep the personnel they keep based on

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Speaker 1: helping the coach. To me, that and I've heard you

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01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: say this a million times. The Bills pride themselves and

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01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: they do a great job of developing players. So I

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Speaker 1: can't see them not keeping guys who they think have

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Speaker 1: even what they feel as great potential down the road

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01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: as opposed to where they're aunt right now to help

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Speaker 1: their coach. The coaches coach, and they're there to develop players.

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Speaker 1: And if they don't think, I think they put their

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Speaker 1: coaches in place and they fully believe they're able to

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,839
Speaker 1: conduct themselves and do the job number one, but also

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Speaker 1: develop players. So I can't see them say, and oh,

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Speaker 1: we gotta keep this guy or that guy just to

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01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: help Smiley because he's a first year guy. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: certainly not. They're certainly not doing it with our offensive

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01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: coordinator the guy, and obviously we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: talent there. But I don't see them saying we're going

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01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: to keep Hodgson over, you know, Cumroll, because we think

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01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 1: he can if they have to play, they can help Dorsey.

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Speaker 1: I don't you know. And in fact, and I'll just

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Speaker 1: say one more thing, I'll let you talk. If they

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Speaker 1: hired a coach who they feel they need to do

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Speaker 1: that to support and help, then they hired the wrong guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I probably did not state it best in the way

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Speaker 1: that I phrased it. I didn't mean it in that

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Speaker 1: way at all. All I was indicating was you're in

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Speaker 1: a go for it year, You're going for the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: and if you have a veteran player that may only

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Speaker 1: be here one more season, but you think he's good

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Speaker 1: enough to make your coverage unit consistent enough to put

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Speaker 1: you over the top, as opposed to a guy who

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Speaker 1: might be a more valuable player down the line. I

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Speaker 1: was just saying, those are the decisions you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to make. And with a first year coordinator who's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that he's still getting a handle

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Speaker 1: on running the whole thing, if he's got more veterans

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Speaker 1: on his unit, it is logical to think that there

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Speaker 1: are more guys he can rest easy on and fully

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01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: trust from the jump in week one, in the front

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Speaker 1: half of the season, when you have the toughest part

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Speaker 1: of your schedule. Does that better explain kind of what

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Speaker 1: I'm getting at? Inay, In no way am I indicating

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Speaker 1: that coach Smiley is unqualified. As I said, he's been

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Speaker 1: here from the beginning of the McDermott era. He is

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Speaker 1: more than qualified. He probably should have been a special

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Speaker 1: teams coordinator somewhere in the league before this year. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, with what's on the line this year,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if they side with more veterans

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01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: so they can trust more guys out there to execute,

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Speaker 1: and guys have been there before on top of that,

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Speaker 1: and that makes sense to a certain extent, But I

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01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: will push back on that a little bit. That's fine

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01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: in this way. I think that we have such a

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: strong roster that even in the beginning of the year

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Speaker 1: against tough competition, they can cover up for guys who

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01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: maybe not what a veteran guy is in the moment

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Speaker 1: right now at the beginning, but maybe much better in

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: weeks ten, eleven, twelve, because they're younger, more athletic, more enthusiasm,

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. Maybe they supply and they

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: grow in their position during those weeks, also because they're

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01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, being developed in practice along

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Speaker 1: with special teams. So I think the Bills are in

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01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: a very unique position to be able to really really

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01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: concentrate on guys who are very athletic, very talented, might

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Speaker 1: have a few shortcomings as a young guy, but they

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01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 1: can put their trust in their coaching staff to develop

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01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: these guys and make them much stronger down the road.

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Speaker 1: Good call, Mark, I look at yeah, good call, and

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Speaker 1: I welcome the debate, and it was good to have

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01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: you on and again, just to reiterate, I'm not saying

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: they will go that way. I'm wondering if they do

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01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: go that way, and if they do, I think those

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 1: would be the reasons why if they choose to go

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 1: on upside, Well, that means they're trusting their player development,

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Speaker 1: which has been very good under coach McDermott. You've seen

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01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: dozens of players on this roster get better with each

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01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: passing year that they're here in these systems, whether it's offense, defense,

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: or special teams. But I just wonder, with what's on

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01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: the line this year, with some of the playoff shortcomings

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: that they have experienced the last two years, do they

1415
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: go the veteran route believing they can trust them more

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01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: or do they go with the upside on some of

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01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: these And really, Maddie, we're talking what one, two, maybe

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Speaker 1: three roster decisions of an either or scenario between a

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Speaker 1: veteran and a younger. Why, you're right, So, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's just but that's how fun they cut it. And

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Speaker 1: one thing that Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott don't want

1422
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: is if we're talking about Raheem black Share here, Let's

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: say he doesn't make the roster and gets pucked by

1424
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: another team they don't want in three years, Raheem black

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Speaker 1: Share to be some great running back who's turned into

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01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: someone who's contending for possibly a starting spot on a roster.

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01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: Of course they'd be happy to see that, But Brandon

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: Bean hates letting guys go who then have a lot

1429
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: of success with other teams. That's happened before, and he's

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01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 1: admitted I made a mistake by dealing that guy away. Yeah,

1431
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: the way I tell everyone was the one that still

1432
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: gets his goat. Those have been few and far between,

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01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: and people are like, well, you'll let Rashad wild Goose

1434
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: get away, or you'll let Jack Anderson get away. Those

1435
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: are two late round draft picks that were good players.

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: They like them, they just didn't have room on the

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: roster because the roster is so good you'd like to

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: keep everybody in a perfe world. The NFL is not

1439
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: a perfect world, even with a sixteen player practice squad.

1440
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 1: So that's how deep the Bill's roster is. Yeah, so

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01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: there are still difficult decisions that they have to iron out.

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01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: I was just curious from the standpoint of wanting to

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01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: win the whole thing this year and wanting to ensure

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01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: in every possible area on the roster to be as

1445
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: buttoned up as you can. Do they go vets in

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01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: a couple of those decisions that we've talked about, or

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: do they go young and upside. That's something to keep

1448
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: an eye on when the final roster is set early

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01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: next week. Maddie and I take a break. Here, we're

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01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: back with more, including some final thoughts on the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet and a little NFL True false here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, It's One Bills Live. Maddie and

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01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: I have a couple of more comments from the tweet

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: sheet to get to, and then we'll do a little

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Speaker 1: fl true falls For those of you are just joining

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01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: us today, we're kind of asking player you're keeping an

1458
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: eye on in tomorrow's game, Bill's Panthers. We'll give us

1459
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: one on offense and one on defense, and let's see

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Speaker 1: where were we here? We were up to Clark, who

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01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: says I still want to see more from Kayer Elam.

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01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: Guy's got a great opportunity to cover mostly wide receiver

1463
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: two's once Trey is back, but he'll need to play

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01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 1: well offense. I'll go Oj Howard. I'm still very curious

1465
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: to see where his ceiling is. With his physical gifts,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping he can make an impact. Oj flashed last week,

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: got the touchdown catch, looked okay in the blocking game.

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01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: He is going to play, though, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: we should expect him to play a lot more Again

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Speaker 1: on Friday, Yeah, I think he's going to play a

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Speaker 1: lot more too. I think sure he hasn't flashed in

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Speaker 1: different ways throughout camp. Maybe some question marks still around him,

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Speaker 1: But I think the bigger question of that tight end

1474
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: room is, you know, with the offense so overall, if

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: you're going to run a lot of two tight end sets,

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01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: what do you want out of that second tight end

1477
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: that's on the field. Sure, there's a lot of different

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: scenarios and situations where you you know, he comes in

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Speaker 1: as a block or he comes in as a pass catcher.

1480
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: How do you want that to look like? And can

1481
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney and Quinton Morris do the same thing? You

1482
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: could argue both of those players are cheaper than OJ Howard.

1483
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: Both of those players also help out on special teams.

1484
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: Where is your value at? Has Oj Howard proven what

1485
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: he needs to prove in order to earn a spot

1486
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: on that roster and with that number two tight end spot,

1487
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure yet. Yeah, I think his roster security

1488
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: is more tenuous than some fans realize because of some

1489
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: of the reasons you pointed out. He is not a

1490
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: factor on special teams. So if your second tight end

1491
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: is not going to be on the field a ton

1492
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: on offense, he better be doing something on special teams.

1493
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: And to this point, OJ really hasn't done much of that,

1494
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: and we know that Sweeney and Quintin Morris invariably do

1495
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: so does that tip the scales in favor of one

1496
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: of those younger players, I'll have to wait and see.

1497
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: As for Kayer Elam, Clark was believing that when Trey

1498
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: comes back, Kaira will be covering wide receiver too. I

1499
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: don't even know if he's on the field because Leslie

1500
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: Fraser has said in no uncertain terms, Dane Jackson is

1501
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: the number two corner after Trey gets back and has

1502
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,759
Speaker 1: said that more than once, and I don't think that changes.

1503
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: And it's a learning curve for kaye Elam who's still

1504
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 1: kind of learning how to play off coverage after playing

1505
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: predominantly man in Florida, and he has the physical gifts

1506
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: to play at this level. Guy's working his tail off

1507
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: every single day on the field, in the film room, etc.

1508
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: But again, I'll go back to it. You're going for

1509
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: the whole Enchilada this year. The best guys are going

1510
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: to be on the field, and right now, in the

1511
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 1: defensive staff's estimate, that's Dane Jackson, and if Trevis White's healthy,

1512
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: tradevious White, those are your two starting outside corners and

1513
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: Tarren Johnson's your guy in the slot. So that's where

1514
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: it stands. If you have a health or tardeous White,

1515
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: if you don't well, then kaye Eland's on the field,

1516
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: and maybe he platoons with his fellow rookie Christian Benford,

1517
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: because that's what they've been doing in practice. It's not

1518
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: like it's been one guy with the ones the whole

1519
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: time they've been platooning over there. That could spill into

1520
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 1: the regular season based on how the next couple of

1521
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: weeks goes, and if the Bills are winning games at

1522
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: the rate that we want them to win games in

1523
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 1: terms of the points that they're putting up on the scoreboard,

1524
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: you could see at the end of a game, maybe

1525
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: different defensive players and offensive players. We've seen it before

1526
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: against certain teams, especially in the past couple of years.

1527
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: You can roll in your two's during a game. Is

1528
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: that the factor here? For a player like Kayer and Christian?

1529
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: What do we see out of them this season? I

1530
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: would say they're both definitely on the roster based on

1531
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: what they've seen, what we've seen from them in training camp,

1532
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: and of course with where Kayer Elam was drafted. But yeah,

1533
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson, last season, what happened when Tredavious White went out?

1534
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: The defense kept pushing forward one pass defense along with

1535
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: total defense. Yeah, didn't miss a beat. Robert on the

1536
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says my picks on offense James Cook and

1537
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: on defense to El Bernard as a backup and maybe

1538
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: a starter next year. So yeah, good picks there. I

1539
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: think we believe those two are firmly on the roster.

1540
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: Both have had really good training camps and preseasons, so

1541
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty safe bet. You think about

1542
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: this draft class, Maddie, I think just about everybody in

1543
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: the draft class is a lock to make the roster.

1544
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: I think the only exceptions are Specter, who could get

1545
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: caught in the numbers game, and Luke to new to

1546
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman, who I think just needs more time.

1547
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm on the job more than anything else. Got to

1548
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 1: work on his feet a little bit, but there are

1549
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans in front of him. Two. Let's

1550
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: spin over to a little NFL true false though, Maddie.

1551
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 1: NFL True false presented by Patrone Taquila, the official tequila

1552
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, and we begin with NFL True

1553
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 1: false Number one. A two quarterback system is feasible for

1554
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: the Seahawks this season? True or false? In your estimation?

1555
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: Are we going feasible and that it can happen or

1556
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: feasible and that it's going to help them in that

1557
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: it can work, and that it can work. It can

1558
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: work for the Seahawks offense? Is that feasible as you

1559
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: see it. I am of the argument that I've seen

1560
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: two quarterback systems in college. I've been a part of one.

1561
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: It hasn't worked. I don't think it works. I think

1562
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: you need two of the exact same quarter back if

1563
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: you're going to run a two quarterback system. While I

1564
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: think the two quarterbacks share similarities in ways, I do

1565
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: not think they're the exact same. So therefore i'm false

1566
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: because I don't think it can work. I'm having trouble

1567
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: thinking of a two quarterback system that got a team

1568
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: to the postseason. I know the Bills in the sixties

1569
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: had Jack Camp and Darryl la Monica, and they were

1570
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: a successful team. I don't know that they won a

1571
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: championship when those two were playing, because coach Saban would

1572
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: bench a guy if he wasn't looking good. It was

1573
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: a different time and a different era. But I think

1574
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: that was after their AFL titles when that happened, So

1575
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: with that, I don't know, maybe it wasn't. I got

1576
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: my it's too far back to remember. Point I'm trying

1577
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: to make here is more often than not, two quarterback

1578
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 1: systems do not work. I mean, yeah, it's not feasible,

1579
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: so I will say false here because I just don't

1580
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: see it working, and if they decide to rotate, I

1581
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: think that's even worse for everybody else that's out there

1582
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: on offense. So false for me. Number two NFL true false.

1583
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: The Titans are the team most likely to win fewer

1584
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 1: games this season than they did in twenty twenty one.

1585
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: There's probably some teams you can pick from, Yeah, but

1586
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm like going, how many games did did these teams win?

1587
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: They had an extraordinarily successful year last year, even though

1588
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: they did not have Dereck Henry for half the season.

1589
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 1: They were the number one season because they were twelve

1590
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: and five, I believe, and they were the number one

1591
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: seed in the league in the AFC last year. So

1592
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: are they the biggest candidate too? I guess what you're

1593
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: asking here is could the Titans be one of the

1594
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: teams to take the biggest step back from where they

1595
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: were last year? Are Titans team most likely to win

1596
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: less games this season than in twenty twenty I would

1597
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: I would say they are likely to win less games,

1598
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: but I don't want to say most likely. I think

1599
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: there's other teams in the NFL who could win less

1600
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: games than they did last year. So I'm I'm saying false. Okay,

1601
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be as good. Yeah,

1602
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: but I don't want to see I don't want to

1603
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: say that they're gonna they're the most likely team in

1604
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think they are going to take a

1605
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: step back to what degree I think is tough to

1606
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,919
Speaker 1: is tough to pin down, and I'm just gonna say personally,

1607
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: I will say false too, because the team I'm hoping

1608
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: that's most likely to last year and I'm hoping they're

1609
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: a five win football I was going to say the

1610
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: Patriots too, and I don't see the Tennessee Titans dropping

1611
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: off quite that far. I think the Patriots are ripe

1612
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: for a disastrous season. So I am going to say

1613
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 1: false and pick the Patriots the team most likely to

1614
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: win less games this season than they did in twenty

1615
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: twenty one. That is NFL true false. Brought to you

1616
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: by Petrone Tequila, the official tequila of the Buffalo Bills.

1617
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: Break time for us, Maddie and I will pack it

1618
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: up in the next segment next here on One Bill's Live.

1619
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, all right, last couple of tweet sheet picks

1620
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,919
Speaker 1: on players you'll be watching tomorrow night against the Panthers.

1621
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Kenny says Shakier and Benford. He wonders if Shakier paves

1622
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: a way to be the number four in front of Crowder,

1623
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: to play inside and outside. I will tell you I

1624
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: don't anticipate that happening at the beginning of the season.

1625
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: Maybe something changes later, but not now, not based on

1626
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: what we've seen. Will the staff feel comfortable with Benford

1627
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: being behind Elam Jackson until Trey White gets back. That's

1628
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: a good question, you know, Maddie. Let's think about this.

1629
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,799
Speaker 1: Let's just say Trey White goes on pup not available

1630
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: for the first month of the season. Dane Jackson your

1631
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: number one, Elam's your number two, tarn Johnson in the slot,

1632
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 1: Benford first guy off the bench. What do we what

1633
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: do we think about? What do we think the staff

1634
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: thinks about that? I think he's done a lot to

1635
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: prove that he could be out of place out there. Yeah,

1636
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: he hasn't been too big for him. The fact is

1637
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: he's still a rookie. He's probably not going to get

1638
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: everything right. If you got to put him out there,

1639
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 1: it's not ideal. You'd like him to get more experienced,

1640
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: but kids shown up man, He's shown up all bills

1641
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: all day goes with Morris and Cam Lewis. Position flex

1642
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: for Lewis will go a long way to determine if

1643
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: he sticks with the fifty three, and that's gonna mean

1644
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: important snaps at safety tomorrow night for him. Make the

1645
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: right reads, choose the right angles of entry, that kind

1646
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: of stuff. Morris is intriguing because with Howard being an

1647
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: able blocker, maybe Dorsey sides with the more athletic guy.

1648
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't know who the more athletic guy is. Morris

1649
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: is pretty athletic. He's a converted receipt. Ever to the

1650
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: tight end position. He can move two different body types too.

1651
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: With Tommy Sweene and Quint Morris. Yeah, does that factor

1652
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: in there? Tight End is going to be a fascinating

1653
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: position of decision and Tomorrow and I could go a

1654
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: long way in determining that. Maddie, thanks for helping us

1655
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 1: out Today. Tomorrow's show, we've got former University of Miami

1656
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: head coach Butch Davis coach Ken Dorsey as a quarterback,

1657
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: and Jim's Joki is going to give us the update

1658
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: on the Carolina Panthers. We'll see you tomorrow at one