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Speaker 1: T Mac made a statement the other day, and I'm

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Speaker 1: him in Kobe out, as far as playing with me,

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Speaker 1: y'all comes the same. You agree or disagree?

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Speaker 2: No, you know, you know you're not just saying you

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Speaker 2: switching out with Kobe and you're gonna be what Kobe was.

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Speaker 3: That's not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't agree with nothing away from nothing Away

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Speaker 2: from TMAC great, Oh you not Kobe?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that.

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Speaker 2: Mentality too, I might have to disagree. I don't know, though,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know. My difference mine is though big

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Speaker 2: Fella is the mentality, like it was, like that killer mentality.

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Speaker 2: Everybody didn't have that, Like he was a good he

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Speaker 2: was a great player, don't get me wrong, but it

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Speaker 2: was times that Mike and Kobe. I felt like that

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Speaker 2: Mike gave Kobe something that nobody else would be able

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Speaker 2: to be able to even imitate and be able to

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Speaker 2: like have that mentality a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of players never no other players had it.

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Speaker 1: Really I agree, just saying, but I'm saying I didn't

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Speaker 1: look at it like that. That's why I like everybody's opinion.

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Speaker 1: You don't think I could have won three with t

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Speaker 1: Mac I think I could have. Yeah, for sure was

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Speaker 1: a bad boy.

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Speaker 2: But then what about after that? Though t was a

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Speaker 2: bad time? I get you get you put any of

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Speaker 2: the about outside of t Mac. You can say a

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Speaker 2: lot of them put him next to you at that time.

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Speaker 3: Good point.

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Speaker 2: What about Vince, Me and Vince? I feel like Row.

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Speaker 2: I feel like like with down play Vince, they just

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Speaker 2: think he had dunker. Vince was one of the most

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Speaker 2: time he was. I believe the same thing. Actually when

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Speaker 2: he said that, a lot of people hit me. But

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Speaker 2: t Mac was a bad boy.

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Speaker 3: For sure, he was.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like, like even not saying it, it's

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Speaker 2: just like Kobe just watching playing in the league and

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Speaker 2: it was a fan and like everybody watched t Max.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knew how good t Mac was. But if you

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Speaker 2: asking a question about him or Kobe Bryant, what.

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Speaker 3: Team it was on.

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Speaker 2: He obviously everybody's path different. But like what Kobe has,

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Speaker 2: there was only one other player that's the greatest player

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Speaker 2: in the world has like they the only two that

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Speaker 4: I just realized I'm a few years older than you guys.

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Speaker 4: I'm from Bucks County, and so I grew up hearing

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Speaker 4: about Kobe at lower Merrio. And then I also remember

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Speaker 4: this guy in Kobe coming to Philadelphia in two thousand

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Speaker 4: and one booing Destiny's Child because I think Beyonce was

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Speaker 4: wearing a Lakers jersey, like what being from Philly and

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Speaker 4: then Kobe playing in Philly. How much were you like

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Speaker 4: big fans of him when you guys were coming up.

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Speaker 3: Extremely big fans, but we was more AI guys.

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, the best.

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Speaker 3: Nobody can overtake like Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: Tgi Fridays touching him man Shaq, I'm telling you man

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Speaker 4: like that series when when Ai dropped that in game one, freaking.

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Speaker 3: It really felt like we won Bell and Eric.

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Speaker 4: Sell one game We'll be freaking do Yeah, but I

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Speaker 4: know that game still pisses you off.

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Speaker 1: It does because I wouldn't go because four, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: want to go sixteen and oh.

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Speaker 4: Moses Malone and then and then also I still can't

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Speaker 4: believe you're a Cowboys fan like that.

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Speaker 3: I wake up every day Cowboys fancy.

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Speaker 1: So we always hear about the goat debates we all play,

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Speaker 1: and I know we're friends with some of these people.

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Speaker 1: My take on this doesn't matter who you pick. I

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Speaker 1: want to hear the right names. So somehow it's just

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Jordan. But my argument is, shouldn't Kobe be

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Speaker 1: in that conversation without a question?

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Speaker 3: A question?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without a question? Like me, I picked Mike play

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Speaker 1: with Kobe paid with Lebron. Both extraordinary great, but Mike

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Speaker 1: was that guy. To me, Mike is a great as

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Speaker 1: well time. But I just hear people go straight from

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Speaker 1: Mike to Lebron and know Kobe, what's your take on that?

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Speaker 1: I think Magic should be in there somewhere too, Like

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Speaker 1: I think it's like I think magic if you know

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Speaker 1: what happened didn't happen. I think he had a chance.

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Speaker 3: To be one of the greatest.

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Speaker 1: And what about Steph Curry? Magic or just the greatest

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Speaker 1: and the greatest? Listen, listen, it's eight bigger people in

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Speaker 1: the word. Everybody's gonna have their opinion, but I would

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Speaker 1: like to hear the proper criteria whoever you pick. So

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Speaker 1: do you think Steph Curry should be there?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he's one of the greatest. I

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Speaker 2: played the game, he changed the game. He was a

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Speaker 2: part of changing the game.

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Speaker 4: Kareem's in the Conversation without a Will is Wilt in

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Speaker 4: the conversation.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: Oh interesting, why the rings are very important in this conversation.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: You don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean because it's like, come on, like a lot

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Speaker 2: of players, you know, No, not saying that he said,

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Speaker 2: but just winning anyway, it's hard to do. So for

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Speaker 2: somebody to win to you can't. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: just like, yeah, he ain't win enough, like you won too.

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Speaker 2: That's that's enough. Some people can't win at all, do you?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 2: You've got a lot of grace that haven't won, and

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Speaker 2: they and their career is downplayed because they didn't win.

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Speaker 2: But they were great basketball players, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So the criteria, Yeah, but we're talking but we're talking

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Speaker 2: the greatest of all time? Yeah yeah, So is that

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Speaker 2: like a top five list or is that just like

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Speaker 2: they're great? Mine is Mike Lebron and Kobe.

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Speaker 4: Oh so Steph's not in your conversation.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm well, we're talking about the three greatest of

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Speaker 1: all time. Let's just put the number on it. No, No,

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Speaker 1: he's not in anybody's conversation. I'm saying, but should he

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Speaker 4: But hold on, you always asked that question. But now

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Speaker 4: you're saying he's not in.

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Speaker 1: Your I'm saying he's not what I'm saying, should he

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Speaker 1: be at it? I've already made mine Michael Jordan's grades

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Speaker 1: of all time. Hiod you that that's my statement?

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Speaker 4: Does Bill Russell get in this conversation?

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Speaker 3: He should? You should? All right?

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Speaker 4: Because also you think about Will and you think about

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Speaker 4: it's like one dude versus all of them, and then

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Speaker 4: also giving Bill Russell credit for eleven. Like it's there's

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Speaker 2: That's a lot, and those are our three. I think

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Speaker 2: Mike cole Brian, you figure it out. Mike is the

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Speaker 2: greatest of all time. Cold cannot be the closest to

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Speaker 2: Mike and not be top three greatest of all time.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't even sound right.

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