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Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: right with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 6: There's the October twenty third, twenty twenty five, season twenty one,

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Speaker 6: episode number sixty four. Welcome to the Lay's edition of

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Speaker 6: The Break, Live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: Too, Okay, I see we're in We're in the mood.

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Speaker 4: We're in one of those moods.

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Speaker 2: So you know that this can go on all banging

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Speaker 2: on the table. I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Guys all that yes, you guys constantly right.

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Speaker 5: That's Derek and his rings.

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Speaker 4: He has two rings and he keeps hitting the table

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Speaker 4: all the time.

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Speaker 7: You can tell the mood Derek is in by how

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Speaker 7: he's dressed, if he's if he's if he's dressed real

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Speaker 7: nice and suited and booty. He just got out some

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Speaker 7: meaning that he didn't want to be in and he's frustrated.

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Speaker 7: But when he's casual with his with his hot boys

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Speaker 7: shoes on, he's in a fantastic mood. We're telling jokes.

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Speaker 7: He catching the hallway, what's up, bro? When he when

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Speaker 7: he suited and booted?

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Speaker 5: Hello? Watch? But when they feel good?

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Speaker 4: What's bro?

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Speaker 5: It was good? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of true. Yeah, that's good description, kind of true.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of true.

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Speaker 6: If you see me in the suit, Yes, what coach,

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Speaker 6: it means I got some things going on. It's got

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Speaker 6: my mind twirling a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So you alone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's actually really really really well, that's a

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Speaker 6: good observation.

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Speaker 5: I'm an analyst.

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Speaker 6: That's a good All right, let's talk to cowboys talks

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Speaker 6: some Cowboys football. All right, Let's start first with some injuries.

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Speaker 6: There are two guys that did not practice for the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys yesterday. Brian, what are you hearing about Trayvon Diggs

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Speaker 6: and his concussion and Donovan Wilson with the elbow as shoulder.

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Speaker 8: The elbow is going to be that's just with Donovan

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Speaker 8: is so he played through that the other day and

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Speaker 8: his shoulder has been a problem too, and they're just

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Speaker 8: trying to get that thing. I think there's some soreness

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Speaker 8: involved here and they're just making sure that they don't

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Speaker 8: to continue to go through the protocol stuff. We'll see

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Speaker 8: how today plays. But that's uh, that protocol stuff. It's

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Speaker 8: very like you don't mess with that stuff when you're

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Speaker 8: in that. They make sure you do all those tests.

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Speaker 8: Everything has to check out completely well before they'll put

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Speaker 8: you back out there. So that's what they're just waiting

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Speaker 8: on right now. We'll see if we'll see how that plays.

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Speaker 8: The one thing I would do want to tell you,

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Speaker 8: Derek is is that about Bebie and his availability and

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Speaker 8: an eye on this one today, watch the injury watch

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Speaker 8: they're looking at it as Okay, did a little yesterday,

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Speaker 8: Can he do more today? Can he do more Friday?

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Speaker 8: And can he play on Sunday. So that's something I'll

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Speaker 2: That's good. I was not expected.

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Speaker 6: I was actually expecting once they opened his window, maybe

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Speaker 6: But but to hear that there's a possibility for this weekend,

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Speaker 6: that is really really good. When you talk about pressure,

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Speaker 3: I was laughing just seconds.

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Speaker 8: I thought you're gonna ask one of those questions that

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Speaker 2: I was not.

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Speaker 5: We didn't get these I was not.

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Speaker 8: I felt like I felt like the Broncos offense got slided.

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Speaker 5: Well I don't know, we was live. So I was

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Speaker 5: just well, you know.

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Speaker 6: If I did that old walk in a room, throw

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my problems, see where we go?

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Speaker 8: And that was all that was all good. That was

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Speaker 8: all good. I enjoy I enjoyed that. I went back

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Speaker 8: and watched it. I'm thinking, Okay, was I a bad guy?

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Speaker 8: I'm like, no, I wouldn't know.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't I know.

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Speaker 3: I was looking for reactions.

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Speaker 2: I love good.

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Speaker 8: I was AG's reaction where she just kind of tilts

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Speaker 8: her head.

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Speaker 3: We're going to do this all right, let's.

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Speaker 9: See, Derek.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure.

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Speaker 8: I wanted to make sure that I wasn't like I

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Speaker 8: wouldn't make sure I wasn't being mean about it.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was trying.

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Speaker 2: Never mean.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: We always have good conversation. That's some good things about

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Speaker 6: the break, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this this, this, this defense is going to be

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Speaker 8: when you when you're ready to get to it, it's

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Speaker 8: worth talking about.

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Speaker 6: Well before we get to the defense. There was a

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Speaker 6: time I had yesterday, I won, and we didn't get

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Speaker 6: to he did not get to Jerry made some comments

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Speaker 6: earlier this week about George.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Madeline Jerry Jones Jones.

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Speaker 6: Made some made some comments about George Pickens.

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Speaker 2: Here was the comedy.

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Speaker 6: He said, Any and everything about George Pickens is crossing

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Speaker 6: our mind. It certainly can generate conversations between people in

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Speaker 2: I'm sure around the league.

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Speaker 6: The answer is certainly he's a topic of interest and

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Speaker 2: Let's let's dive into it.

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Speaker 6: A little bit from the standpoint of like, if you

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Speaker 6: they can do with George Pickens.

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Speaker 7: Realistically, they will frustrate everybody at this table. They'll let

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Speaker 7: him test free agency, they'll get a a comp third

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Speaker 7: because I would assume they'll let him test if he's

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Speaker 7: too expensive, and we'll just be living on that third

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Speaker 7: round pick whenever we get it.

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Speaker 2: More picks.

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Speaker 3: But sound like a scout every.

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Speaker 6: Day around you too long, and now you're flipping on

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Speaker 6: me and saying the picks.

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Speaker 8: Definitely, my man, my man, lest sneed just got me

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Speaker 8: convinced that.

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Speaker 5: I changed my mind by I don't want to send

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Speaker 5: the pic. Okay, good?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, we did all that yesterday.

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Speaker 4: You're a flip flop.

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Speaker 5: Nothing I've learned.

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Speaker 4: You're a flip flop when.

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Speaker 5: You when you, when you get more information, you have

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Speaker 5: the right to change your mind.

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Speaker 4: Bar you're always flip flopping. No, I don't like flip floppers.

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Speaker 2: Come with me.

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Speaker 6: I can always lead you the man that dude over

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Speaker 6: the west because what should be nice.

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Speaker 5: To have it?

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Speaker 3: But somebody asked who that guy in the West coast?

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Speaker 3: Now you know he asked you on Twitter. I saw

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Speaker 3: what you said.

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Speaker 5: I told him.

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Speaker 3: You told him, but you can't tell him on.

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Speaker 2: You can do what you want on Twitter, but not

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Speaker 2: not on this program.

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Speaker 8: They got they got, they got lawyers will come downstairs

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Speaker 8: and talk to you.

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Speaker 6: No, they'll be standing right outside.

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Speaker 5: I think they part of the tour.

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Speaker 7: Aside from moving on from Piggins and let him test

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Speaker 7: the correct answer is to give him money. Give give

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Speaker 7: all the great people that work here. They get all

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Speaker 7: the access and they ask all the players that we

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Speaker 7: just got all this footage. You see the players, Hey man,

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Speaker 7: what's the name about? Oh GP's a great teammate. Oh

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Speaker 7: great guy, y'all that you see people loudly vouching for him.

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Speaker 7: So when you get the negativity that was in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 7: He's a great teammates. Fantastic be around. Uh sounds of

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Speaker 7: and boy Piggins is is something else. And just me

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Speaker 2: And that's no disgust. I heard what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Cooper is are very technical, He's very chill. He does

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Speaker 7: his job. Brandon Cooks is the same kind of way.

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Speaker 7: Michael Gallup is just chill. But I think a lot

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Speaker 7: of cowboy fans miss the air quotes. Here the dog

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Speaker 7: that Das was, and I think Piggins got some of

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Speaker 7: the same stuff in him, and you see that come

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Speaker 7: out of Lamb Now. I think if you're if you're

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Speaker 7: Jerry Wayne Jones, you're surrounded by his Royal Council and

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Speaker 7: if he's listening to Vache Lombardy right now, look.

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Speaker 2: Look he's definitely gonna catch it on demand.

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Speaker 7: But Jerry Wayne looked us in the eye and said, look,

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Speaker 7: we're not signing Michael Parson.

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Speaker 5: That gives us a.

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Speaker 7: Little bit more flexibility to do stuff. However much money

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Speaker 7: Piggins is that or David Muligan is asking for, it's

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Speaker 7: you have room to make these moves. Now, please sign

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Speaker 7: George Piggins. That took all the talking points. I'm sorry, y'all,

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Speaker 7: but I'm I'm passionate about that guy. That dude's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: What's new.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I mean, this is one of

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Speaker 8: The options sign, tag, trade, walk, those are your options

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Speaker 3: And those are the conversations you have.

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Speaker 8: He's going to talk to all three parties involved, the coaches,

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Speaker 7: So I'm just reading the chat and shouts out to

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Speaker 7: You know, nah, you know, you know there's no problem.

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Speaker 7: Do y'all do y'all think that there will be some

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Speaker 2: Well, I believe that, as any good businessman does. I

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Speaker 6: I don't think it will matter from the standpoint of

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Speaker 2: As a part of that. I think it was more.

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Speaker 6: And so for me, that's where I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 6: and at that point it's going to be a situation

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Speaker 2: I don't think it will matter.

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Speaker 8: You know, again I say this, he listens. He's very

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Speaker 8: We got David Mulligata again, maybe we need to think

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I think it's I think it did.

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Speaker 8: I think Derek's absolutely right. I think he was collateral

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Speaker 3: Hey, good for him.

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Speaker 3: What you want.

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Speaker 8: You want that man in Austin, Texas working for you

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Speaker 8: But you know what, this player is young and he's

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Speaker 3: But that's sound of a gun has kept you afloat

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Speaker 6: There's so much to understand about this defense. This might

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Speaker 6: the Star and let's talk about the Denver Defense.

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Speaker 8: All right, you swear that is about to get a

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Speaker 8: cut from block the way the way You're like, bro,

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Speaker 8: come on, come on, come on.

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Speaker 2: It's right out here, just get it.

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Speaker 5: Watching nothing.

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Speaker 2: The Denver defense versus Dallas offense.

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Speaker 3: What you got, tell them what you said during the break?

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Speaker 7: Man, this defense makes me jealous. I'm gonna say it.

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Speaker 7: It makes me jealous. You know, I didn't think of

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys defense in that way until I watch these

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Speaker 7: guys closely. Uh, this group of guys in Denver makes

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Speaker 7: you feel like the Cowboys are a collection of players,

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Speaker 7: just a bunch of dudes. And look, they're all talented

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Speaker 7: in their own right, but uh, this Broncos defense is

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Speaker 7: a system that works as a unit, and they're all

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Speaker 7: they're all complimentary of each other. You know, they got

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Speaker 7: three big guys in the middle. At the average fan,

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Speaker 7: he never heard of you know, Zach Allen, DJ Jones,

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Speaker 7: and John Franklin Myers. I know Zach and DJ. I

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Speaker 7: don't know Mster three first names here. I mean, I've

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Speaker 7: probably seen him once and just didn't Just he's not

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Speaker 7: a guy that just sticks out in your mind in

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Speaker 7: that way. But how they operate as a big three

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Speaker 7: dude unit. They clog up stuff. They pushed the line

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Speaker 7: of scrimmage. They're very strong and they're very hard to move.

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Speaker 7: They demand that you double team them, and if you

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Speaker 7: don't double team them, boy, they're gonna just win that

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Speaker 7: one on one matchup.

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Speaker 5: So they forced you to do that.

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Speaker 7: And while you're focused on that, they got guys on

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Speaker 7: the outside that clear.

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Speaker 5: Up everything from sideline to sideline.

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Speaker 7: So the previous weeks we're be like, hey, man, let's

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Speaker 7: work some of this outside stuff and get blue going.

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Speaker 7: They got dudes that can run and just here's an example.

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Speaker 7: You remember how once upon a time Michael Partison was

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Speaker 7: a cowboy and if he was at edge, some fast

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Speaker 7: dude to get to the edge, Michael, chase that guy down.

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Speaker 7: Now we got you David Clown here, So we need

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Speaker 7: safety help to kind of deal with those guys that

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Speaker 7: are running sideline the sideline. These dudes get it done,

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Speaker 7: Brian Brost. They got pass rusher as, they got cover guys,

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Speaker 7: and they all work together as a great, big unit.

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Speaker 5: And it made me jealous.

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Speaker 7: Because I want my I would rather have a defense

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Speaker 7: filled with people that I've never heard of before. We

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Speaker 7: all know, we all know, pet right start saying, But

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Speaker 7: the rest of these guys are a collection of guys

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Speaker 7: that you really got to watch film to really appreciate.

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Speaker 5: And boy, I wish we had like that.

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Speaker 8: Mary. I'll tell you something though, my friend, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 8: you got an offense that could go against these guys.

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Speaker 3: You got an offense. You got an offensive could go

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Speaker 3: against these guys.

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Speaker 2: But every I didn't know. I was worried what.

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Speaker 8: This assessment of this defense. But you know what this

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Speaker 8: is going to be a football war. It really will be.

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Speaker 8: And you know, if you get b B back and

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Speaker 8: this is this is the things that we talked about

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Speaker 8: it we've been talking about in the show. When we

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Speaker 8: break these things down. You get your three big inside

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Speaker 8: offensive linemen going in this game, They're going to have

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Speaker 8: their big guys going in. You were a disadvantage against Carolina.

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Speaker 8: Carolina got after you. They they really affected the way

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Speaker 8: that you played along the line of scrimmage. You didn't

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Speaker 8: play with power in that game. You didn't play with movement,

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Speaker 8: you didn't play with toughness. But you know, if you

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Speaker 8: don't play with that against these guys, now you're gonna

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Speaker 8: have Carolina problems.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: But I feel like though, and I think Vosh will

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Speaker 8: tell you this too, I feel like there's areas that

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Speaker 8: you can match up against them and play against. Now

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Speaker 8: we'll see what happens on the edge with these two guys.

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Speaker 8: I mean, when you when you start to talk about

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Speaker 8: Cooper and Benito, these guys are getting off the football

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Speaker 8: at a high rate, and I mean they are gaining ground,

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Speaker 8: both of them. Like you know always one of those

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Speaker 8: metrics we talk about is the get off on snap

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Speaker 8: you know, point seventy three, point seven. Oh, those are

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Speaker 8: two of the top you know getoffs in the league,

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Speaker 8: and that's what they're big on. They want to be

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Speaker 8: able to do that. They want to cause problems in

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Speaker 8: the middle. All those kind of no name guys are

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Speaker 8: going to do things. If are moving around, they're going

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Speaker 8: to twist, They're going to make you have to deal

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Speaker 8: with them. The movement as those edge rushers are going off,

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Speaker 8: this game is going to hinge Dallas throwing the football

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Speaker 8: will hinge on their ability for the inside three to

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Speaker 8: control what's going on. Yeah, the pass rush off the edge,

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Speaker 8: Dak can handle those things. Dak is good at handling

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Speaker 8: those six Dak needs a place to step up in

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Speaker 8: this game.

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Speaker 3: And if those.

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Speaker 8: Inside three we've talked about Green Bay, same way green

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Speaker 8: Bay camp with guys smoking off the edge, whether it

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Speaker 8: be Micah or Gary. You know, they had guys, but

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Speaker 8: they handled all those guys the inside, Dak had a

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Speaker 8: place to step up and throw the football. This game

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Speaker 8: could very well for the Cowboys offensively. Hinge on how

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Speaker 8: well those inside three play.

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Speaker 7: Derek says something earlier, you know, being like this is

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Speaker 7: the biggest test for the offense and all this kind

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Speaker 7: of stuff. I think you're you're gonna learn a whole

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Speaker 7: bunch of batch of offense. You know, if you just

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Speaker 7: look at the Cowboys and who they've they've played, they've

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Speaker 7: played good teams, but you wouldn't think of those teams

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Speaker 7: as having defensive juggernizs Like those teams play good defense.

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Speaker 7: The Eagles play good defense. Even Green Bay like they'll

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Speaker 7: play good defense, but nobody will call them like this

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Speaker 7: perfect defense that just can't be just can't be handled.

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Speaker 7: Like there's matchups you can just you know, deal with

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Speaker 7: in that way. This Broncos defense from the top to

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Speaker 7: the bottom, from the D line of the linebackers, the

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Speaker 7: corner safeties, it's not a bunch of holes. It's two

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Speaker 7: of them. I'm about to tell you in a little bit.

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Speaker 7: But if the Cowboys can go out here and do

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Speaker 7: the same offensive get down that they've been doing the

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Speaker 7: past few weeks, forty points is heavy. Yeah, forty points

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Speaker 7: is a lot to ask for. But in the event

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Speaker 7: that they do, you can really look at this at

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Speaker 7: this Cowboys offense and say, man, there's not a team

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Speaker 7: that can stop this Cowboys offense because this defense is

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Speaker 7: so ridiculous in that way.

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Speaker 2: Please real quick, John's put up thirty two on them.

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Speaker 7: That ain't even true. Okay, it definitely happened. But football

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Speaker 7: is weird, no, get I get down here.

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Speaker 6: And the reason why I said this is because I

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Speaker 6: wanted to ask you, like, okay, so how are the

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Speaker 6: Giants able to put up thirty two against this vaunted defense?

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Speaker 5: Last?

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Speaker 7: Football is weird and it's the National Football League and

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Speaker 7: everybody's kind of good. And you know, you can say, well,

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Speaker 7: then you know the young quarterback, you know, all the

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Speaker 7: all the all the film is all the way there.

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Speaker 7: You can make the argument that maybe the Broncos were

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Speaker 7: overlooking the Giants in a way that happens with these

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Speaker 7: good teams. Sometimes Cowboys have been guilty of that sometimes,

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Speaker 7: but for the most part, if you look at the

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Speaker 7: seven weeks of film, and there was even a point

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Speaker 7: in the Giants game where the Broncos said, all right, y'all,

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Speaker 7: this is enough, yeah, and let's and let's stop some

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Speaker 7: of this nonsense that they're doing. And it all happened

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Speaker 7: within the last the last portion of the game.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 7: If you look at the whole picture of what the

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Speaker 7: Broncos are, the Broncos. They'll give up a weird game

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Speaker 7: versus Giants and still be the number one team in

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Speaker 7: the league, like the number one defense in the league.

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Speaker 7: That's how legit that these guys are. You know, when

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys go out and they'll have a big game

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Speaker 7: against the Packers. Right going into that game, everybody's well,

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Speaker 7: the Packers are a great defense, but on TV they'll

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Speaker 7: come in, well, maybe the Packers aren't as good as

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Speaker 7: we thought. There's no way anybody could ever say that

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Speaker 7: about this this Broncos team, because they're good. If they

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Speaker 7: stop the run, they rush the passer, they're topping all

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Speaker 7: these things right. How they how they work the safeties,

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Speaker 7: blitzing the safeties and their man coverage, and they're one high,

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Speaker 7: they're gonna lean on man coverage. They're gonna trust it

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Speaker 7: them most it's about fifty to fifty. But they go

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Speaker 7: out there and they trust their guys to go in

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Speaker 7: man coverage.

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Speaker 5: And it works, and it works.

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Speaker 7: And now this is a time in football where we're

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Speaker 7: daring you to play man so that we can whoop you.

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Speaker 7: And the Broncos say, fine, will do it if the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys can go out there, in which I think they should.

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Speaker 7: I don't think they should be afraid of Certain. I

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Speaker 7: think they should go find a fine moss. I think

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Speaker 7: they should work them. Safeties is going to be a

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Speaker 7: lot of man cover one, cover three, and if you're

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Speaker 7: an offensive dude, cover one, cover three is the same thing.

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Speaker 7: Go back and watch how Pickens dealt with Certain last year.

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Speaker 5: The box score.

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Speaker 7: Says two for twenty nine, but there was a fifty

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Speaker 7: six yard pass that was called back because of holding,

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Speaker 7: a six yard touchdown and a DPI that would have

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Speaker 7: been thirty yards if Certain wouldn't hold it. So that

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Speaker 7: sound and look football math don't work. It didn't happen.

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Speaker 7: Pickings was two for twenty nine. But Pickens is a

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Speaker 7: dude too, So if I'm the Cowboys, and if I

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Speaker 7: know shot It and Dak and their personality, they're not

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Speaker 7: gonna run away from any child. Just like last week,

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Speaker 7: Trey Amos was the better corner. We're gonna try Trey Amos,

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Speaker 7: but we're also gonna find Lattimore and we're also gonna

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Speaker 7: find Sandra still because they are these scrubs of this defense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, one other thing real quick, just to note that

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Speaker 6: one of the two games that the Broncos have lost

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Speaker 6: this year was to the other team that I think is,

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Speaker 6: along with the Cowboys, the best offensive team in the league.

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Speaker 6: They put up twenty nine on them, beat them twenty

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Speaker 6: nine to twenty eight. It was a close game. It

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Speaker 6: was at Indianapolis. But just for a frame of reference,

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Speaker 6: a good defense, I mean, I'm sorry, a good offense

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Speaker 6: was able to put up a decent amount of points.

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Speaker 6: It was certainly wasn't approaching forty, but they were able

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Speaker 6: to put up twenty nine and they were able to

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Speaker 6: get a win. That's I think something we're thinking about.

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Speaker 8: I think the Colts gave you a little bit of

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Speaker 8: an idea. And the Colts, I think have got a

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Speaker 8: really a good offensive line. They ran the ball with

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Speaker 8: some purpose, and I mean, you know, with Taylor and

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Speaker 8: their backs and stuff like that, there were some opportunities.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 8: I think everything that Vox said it was absolutely right

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Speaker 8: about this team. You know, there's things that happened, and

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Speaker 8: they kind of flipped a switch and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 8: I mean, they also got some help to a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 8: They're playing coverage late in the game, four minutes left,

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Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, they get an interception and

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Speaker 8: that kind of turned things around to where it put

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Speaker 8: the Colts back, to put the Broncos back, and think,

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Speaker 8: I am not I am not going away from Cirtan,

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Speaker 8: and I agree with you. I agree with you about

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Speaker 8: attacking Riley Moss too. And I know the numbers say, well,

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Speaker 8: but there's some deep when they've given up some plays

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Speaker 8: down the field, it's been Riley Moss, and Riley Moss

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Speaker 8: does not run great, and so all of a sudden

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Speaker 8: there's that possibility of getting separation.

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Speaker 3: On him and making some play.

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Speaker 8: So some of the things that Dallas can do, uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, you just I just do worry about the

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Speaker 8: inside guys. Can your inside three win against their inside three,

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Speaker 8: and then you'll figure out everything else, you know with

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Speaker 8: with the outside and and those pass rushers, they're they're

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Speaker 8: tremendous the way they get off the ball, but you've

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Speaker 8: got things that should bother them. This is not to

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Speaker 8: be a one sided fight. This is going to be

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Speaker 8: something that vance Joseph has got to figure out.

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Speaker 3: Like he's got to worry about.

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Speaker 8: Williams coming in there and running the football and having

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Speaker 8: that mentality like okay, you guys, Sean Payton. You guys

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Speaker 8: moved on for me here I am. I'm about to

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Speaker 8: make this really really difficult for you. And you know,

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Speaker 8: they've got to feel they got to deal with a

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Speaker 8: tight end that catches the ball really well. They're gonna

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Speaker 8: have to deal with two wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: You know if you.

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Speaker 8: Try and take one of these guys, say you travel Certan.

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Speaker 8: You know, and this is a team that's very very balanced,

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Speaker 8: told you very balanced on man's own. Sometimes teams are

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Speaker 8: just massively swung one way or another.

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Speaker 3: Not the Broncos.

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Speaker 8: And that's what makes them unique is they can kind

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Speaker 8: of morph into whatever they need to be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, you know, just to be clear,

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys are the best quarterback and group of receivers

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Speaker 7: that the Broncos played this year. You know, they played

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Speaker 7: the Eagles, but you got the wire cis over there,

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Speaker 7: but Jalen Hurst is really a running back, Brian right.

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Speaker 7: But we're just talking about like the whole passing offense.

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Speaker 7: It's like all together, I three Cowboys are the most

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Speaker 7: dangerous passing offense at the Broncos.

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Speaker 5: We have to see.

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Speaker 7: So if you're if your advanced, Joseph, you have to

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Speaker 7: now balance Okay, well do we bring more guys forward

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Speaker 7: to deal with the run or do we you know,

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Speaker 7: trust that the three down line that can deal with

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Speaker 7: the front and go play more coverage. And at that

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Speaker 7: point is up to the Cowboys Dack Scheinheimer and company

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Speaker 7: to go all right, this is how we need to

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Speaker 7: make an adjustment per what you're doing.

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Speaker 8: I think that you know, guys, to me personally, this

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Speaker 8: is where if you look at where the Broncos cause

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Speaker 8: your problems, is they cause you problems in the pass

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Speaker 8: rush on second and third down. You don't want to

742
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Speaker 8: get the third down on these guys and have to

743
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Speaker 8: and have to deal with that with.

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Speaker 3: The pass rush.

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Speaker 8: This might be one of these games. We've talked about

746
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Speaker 8: this in the past. I think Brian Schottenheimer is really

747
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Speaker 8: good at doing adjustments this way. Maybe it's one of

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Speaker 8: these things where early downs, first down, a lot of

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Speaker 8: throwing just going to kids. Their sack numbers on first

750
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Speaker 8: down are not as high as they are on second

751
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Speaker 8: and third down, So all of a sudden, if you

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Speaker 8: throw early, then now you start to think about running

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Speaker 8: the ball. Maybe on second and third down, maybe you

754
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Speaker 8: could stay ahead of the change that way, you know,

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Speaker 8: everybody's bad when you get him in third and long,

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Speaker 8: especially playing at that place, the crowd, noise, the players, all,

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Speaker 8: that's going to be a problem. But maybe this is

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Speaker 8: a game where Brian Schottenneimer has to think of early

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Speaker 8: down pass and then second and third down runs to

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Speaker 8: kind of throw off fans.

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Speaker 6: Joseph and this crew, all right, we're going to take

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Speaker 6: our final break, win and come back. And I want

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Speaker 6: to talk a little bit about this three four defense.

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Speaker 6: The time that Cowboys have had the most struggles when

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Speaker 6: it came to their running game was against the three

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Speaker 6: four defense. I want to talk to you guys about

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Speaker 6: similarities or differences that you see and how they deployed

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Speaker 6: three four versus how Carolina deployed the three four. We'll

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Speaker 2: all right, let's let's get your question how strong. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about three four defense.

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Speaker 6: I did hear Shoddy say earlier in the week that

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Speaker 6: they they don't do they don't run three four in

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Speaker 6: the same way that Carolina does. But I want to

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Speaker 6: talk to you guys about some specific things that you

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Speaker 6: saw when they played Carolina and how Carolina was so disruptive,

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Speaker 6: particularly in the past, I mean, in the running game,

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Speaker 6: and if any of those things do you see as

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Speaker 6: being issues that may come from this defense, from the

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Speaker 6: from Denver's defense as a result.

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Speaker 7: I guess Shotty was alluding to that maybe Carolina plays

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Speaker 7: more of a true zero. That's a guy hit up

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Speaker 7: over the center, and sometimes I think for the most part,

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Speaker 7: Denver will kind of shade that got just move him

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Speaker 7: over a little bit and then maybe kind of turn

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Speaker 7: them a little bit, stagger them a little bit. It's

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Speaker 7: just kind of how you deal with the center or whatnot.

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Speaker 7: And if BB is playing versus Hoffman is playing, that

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Speaker 7: that matters. Derek Brown, who you would think would be

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Speaker 7: like more of a B gap guy, is playing like

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Speaker 7: a five, like a four or five tech kind of

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that the Broncos particularly do that. I

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Speaker 7: think the Broncos are more like heavy, strong stout. I

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Speaker 7: think Derek Brown is the type of dude that wants

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Speaker 7: to move around a little more Bobby Brown's than other

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Speaker 7: like that. Uh, so they're they're similar. But I also

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Speaker 7: think that, uh the Broncos linebackers, they play more twenty

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00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 7: backers and that's like head up over the guard or whatever.

887
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 6: And before you before you go, Brian, real quick, you

888
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 6: mentioned that it matters this h how they play that

889
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 6: that that zero tech. It matters with if BB's playing

890
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 6: or not. Why Well, because you just don't want to

891
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: run right into BB. Because BB is powerful enough.

892
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: To like stop that, more powerful than Hoffman, more powerful.

893
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: Than than than than Hoffman.

894
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 7: If you're lined up against someone that's shaded over you,

895
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 7: but maybe he's kind of slanty kancas to the side

896
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 7: a little bit, than gives Hoffman a little bit of

897
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 7: a break because he got a little more room in

898
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 7: front of him and maybe he has to be a

899
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 7: little more physical this way. Or if the left guard

900
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 7: is comboing, that zero is close to the left guard,

901
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 7: so it helps us a little bit. And the Panthers

902
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 7: may think that it helps them because of the movement

903
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 7: ability or the gap exchange stuff. If you're a big,

904
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 7: strong dude, just line up over to zero and you're

905
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 7: a center and you're not getting help, you gotta be

906
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 7: powerful right there. And BB has much more of an

907
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 7: anchor than Hoffman does.

908
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean everything he says is right that you

909
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 8: want somebody like I say, Happman in that game against

910
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 8: Carolina Ban they had a hard time when it came

911
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 8: to the combo blocks of like making sure that guys

912
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 8: were on the right guy. And I'm not saying right guy,

913
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 8: wrong guy. I mean I'm just talking about, Okay, we're

914
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 8: gonna double team this guy. And then like Smith, maybe

915
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 8: he's used to playing with BB, and he just he

916
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 8: knows if he bumps that guy enough, that's gonna get

917
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 8: over there, that that BB is gonna get in place.

918
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 8: They didn't do that with Hoffman. I mean it was

919
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 8: a struggle for Like there were several times where they

920
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 8: were trying to double and they could not get the

921
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 8: double team to mesh and be able to get the

922
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 8: blocker on the right guy and be able to finish

923
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 8: those blocks. So it's gonna be really, really a key

924
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 8: in this game is you're gonna have to be able

925
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 8: to handle those inside guys. And let me tell you this,

926
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 8: this is not just guys that are just kind of

927
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 8: stay around and fight shitt the line of scrimmage. These

928
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 8: are get up the field kind of and like they're

929
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 8: gonna try and walk you. I mean, they're gonna try

930
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 8: and make moves and they're gonna try and be quick,

931
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 8: but they're big. And that's the thing is they're gonna

932
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 8: try and walk you into the pocket or make a

933
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 8: movement where like, Okay, we're gonna twist this guy and

934
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 8: he's gonna get home.

935
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: And if you're a quarterback that's sitting in the pocket.

936
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 8: And you just hold the ball and all of a sudden,

937
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 8: you know, the edges are by you and now you've

938
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 8: got these defensive tackle in your lap, you know that's

939
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 8: that's gonna be a problem. But they they are really

940
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 8: good at These are good pass rushing tackles. They're not

941
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 8: just you know, let the let the grass die under

942
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 8: their feet and just kind of stand there and fight

943
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 8: with you.

944
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: They're they're getting up the field. That's good.

945
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 8: That's the That's the the thing with Carolina is Carolina

946
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 8: is more that grass under your feet, guys, whereas the

947
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 8: Broncos are get up the field defensive tackle.

948
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 5: Brian bros.

949
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 7: You made such a fantastic point. Just fantastic, sir. If

950
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 7: you're a sinner and I'm just I'm just saying because

951
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 7: I was a center, but I wouldn't all that big you.

952
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 7: Kind of like when teams try to read you a

953
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 7: little bit, like it lets you hang around to fight

954
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 7: a little longer. So like if I'm bronck Hoff and

955
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 7: you're a zero and you're trying to read me and

956
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 7: not to give versus, I get to hang around a

957
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 7: little bit and maybe somebody will run the other way

958
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 7: to keep me in the fight. But the one thing

959
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 7: I hated was those teams that wasn't coach really well.

960
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 7: They didn't read and they just ran right upfield at you.

961
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 7: I used to hate that because now I got to

962
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 7: bring power to the party. That's a fantastic point, Brian

963
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 7: bro Denver, Denver does that? Denver try to run right

964
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 7: right through your face, which is different than Carolina.

965
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 6: So to that point, talk to me about Booker, who

966
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 6: came back last week from injury.

967
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: How did he look last week?

968
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 6: Is he back to himself is his power there, because

969
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 6: that seems like that's gonna be a very important part

970
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 6: of what he's gonna need this week, particularly against his front.

971
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 7: I think the biggest issue with Booker and really everybody

972
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 7: on his offensive line is that they just gotta be

973
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 7: together and deal with like gap exchange is better. They

974
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 7: got to deal with slants, movement and all that kind

975
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 7: of stuff. If this is just about lining up and

976
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 7: being strong and just pushing people.

977
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 5: You will not have a problem with him at all.

978
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 7: Like, if he's just if it's just his job to

979
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 7: combo one on one base block whatever down block, he's fine.

980
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 7: But if you get a slant from the front and

981
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 7: Benito comes looping inside, then that's where big, big issues come.

982
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think to me, when you watch Booker play

983
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 8: the past set.

984
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty good.

985
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 5: It's nice.

986
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 8: And because he's for a big man, he could bend

987
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 8: at the knees and just sit down and then fight

988
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 8: you that way. It's when all of a sudden there

989
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 8: is that movement. Then he gets a little and it

990
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 8: happens to Guiden too. Guiten is a lot less stronger

991
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 8: than Booker, and so he does it leaning forward to

992
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 8: try and stop the defender and then he can reset,

993
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 8: whereas Booker will sit and get his hands inside and

994
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 8: kind of control you that way. So this will be

995
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 8: a good matchup for both Smith and I think for

996
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 8: Booker with the inside, because yeah, these guys are quick

997
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 8: and they try and use some Pastorius moves and stuff

998
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 8: on you, but they play with We keep saying so

999
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 8: much power that if you get inside on these guys

1000
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 8: and hold it and sit down on them, that plays

1001
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 8: right into.

1002
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: The wheelhouse of Booker.

1003
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 8: It's when it's when we see the gap exchange stuff

1004
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 8: that that's when the problems. When he's got to pass

1005
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 8: a guy and then all of a sudden he gets

1006
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 8: out of whack. He's getting forward a little bit, gets

1007
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 8: out of whack and then that guy's able to get

1008
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 8: around him.

1009
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 4: Boy question, I know you guys said you want you

1010
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: don't want the Cowboys to shy away from throwing the ball,

1011
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: and yeah, the corners that are there, But looking at

1012
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: the offensive line specifically, do you I think that for

1013
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: this game, are they better suited for past protection or

1014
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 4: to run the football?

1015
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 7: Denver's gonna give you problems both ways. Trying to move

1016
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 7: those guys is very difficult, and in terms of past

1017
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 7: setting where you find mostly issues from it's from your

1018
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 7: side guys, and they got two outside guys they could

1019
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 7: whoop ass real quick. So you really just got to

1020
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 7: line up and just like you can't be afraid of either.

1021
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 7: I think the Cowboys should try to run the football

1022
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 7: because they're really good setting up the action stuff. And

1023
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 7: you might want to wear these guys down over time.

1024
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 7: If this is gonna be a long game, a close game,

1025
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 7: you don't want Denver's pass rushers.

1026
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 5: To be standing up and they good and they not

1027
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 5: huffing on.

1028
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 7: You might want to wear those guys down early a

1029
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 7: little bit just to give you an opportunity to pass

1030
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 7: the ball freely later in the game. But on that

1031
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 7: same token where it's probably better for us to throw

1032
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 7: the ball, because if I can find the weakness is

1033
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 7: Riley Moss, it's their nickel corner whatever his name is,

1034
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 7: and their safety.

1035
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 5: Who fund good.

1036
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 7: Just in case he ends up on one of your

1037
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 7: slot guys like see Lambas, you could really you could

1038
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 7: really whoop up on him. So you really have to

1039
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 7: do both, and I think the best way to do

1040
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 7: it is you can't coach scare you can't play scare

1041
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 7: if you fail whatever punt the ball. Brian Ainger may

1042
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 7: gets a manchin his week because that is a tough,

1043
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 7: top tier team, But you can't be afraid to do week.

1044
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1045
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 8: The thing that they were able to do, and I

1046
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 8: was watching Philadelphia talk about throw the ball Philadelphia. They

1047
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 8: throw with the Saquon Barkley the wheel route, and you

1048
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 8: know we always talk about you you get maybe a

1049
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 8: pick and then the wheel, and they got to pick

1050
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 8: a couple of different times on these linebackers and were

1051
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 8: able to make plays with the running back throwing the

1052
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 8: ball up the field. So I don't think there's any

1053
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 8: any you know if okay, I would feel a lot

1054
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 8: different if this was the game going into the Jets

1055
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 8: where you have four offensive linemen out. Now you've got

1056
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 8: to think about a different game plan to me, that

1057
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 8: play sheet that that Brian Schottenheimer has, so go for it.

1058
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: Just play play open football.

1059
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 8: You've got you got weapons, they've got defenders, but you're

1060
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 8: equipped to handle what they're gonna try and do to you.

1061
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 8: But that Jets game plan, if it was the four

1062
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 8: backup offensive lineman and steal, I think you might call

1063
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 8: this game a lot differently.

1064
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take uh, actually we're done, take

1065
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: it back tomorrow.

1066
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll be back tomorrow and tomorrow we're gonna wrap

1067
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 6: this thing up and talk to you about what we

1068
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 6: think is gonna happen on Sunday. This will be a

1069
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 6: tough matchup for the Cowboys. We'll wrap that all up there, equipt. Yeah,

1070
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 6: we'll wrap this all up for you tomorrow. Till then

1071
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 6: for Batchelnbarti Brian brought us an Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eaglton.

1072
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